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Ooops..correct Article. Truck makers hope for Texas-size sales

From : geekboy

Q: with pickup truck sales in a 13 percent decline this year 2006 manufacturers feel a heightened sense of urgency over the texas state fairs potential effect on sales. industry executives say one out of every four vehicles sold in texas is a pickup as compared to one out of eight elsewhere in the united states. this is the high-stakes game a shootout at the ok corral said david cole chairman of the center for automotive research in ann arbor. its got all the drama you could imagine but with trucks as major players. the texas battleground is so fierce that companies dispatch teams of high-ranking executives and engineers to visit the fair and tout their new or redesigned models. as one manufacturer unveils its latest version engineers from other companies armed with tape measures and note pads pounce to do a quick study of their newest competitor. and each year new model introductions seem to get more elaborate. fords new model f-450 -- top executive mark fields in the drivers seat -- was lowered by crane 75 feet to the ground. fields fords president of the americas later was joined by company spokesman and country western singer toby keith who pulled up in another f-450. this is ground zero for truck leadership fields told the associated press. if you dont show up in texas particularly at a venue like the state fair you might as well not show up at all. this is where you duke it out. its where you make your bones as far as burnishing truck production. http//www.boston.com/business/articles/2006/10/05/truckmakershopefortexassizesales/ .

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From : budd cochran

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From : jeff mayner

miles wrote jeff mayner wrote what are you babbling about all i asked you for was a cite. guess ill just call you peter hurkos from now on. obviously you can fortell the future if you know what im going to think before i think it. let me get this straight. you know little about edwards background but you seem to want him in the whitehouse and you want me to give a cite for you to learn more about how he got his millions this is how you educate yourself on a canidate youll vote for by asking someone you dont know to give you a cite do a quick google search and pick a cite any cite and go from there. my guess is you have little interest in learning about edwards scamming ways towards his millions. political partisan at its worst. my guess is youre another rightwinger that has been brainwashed by the fearmongering republican party and continues to vote against his own best interest because theyve convinced you its patriotic to do so. do you jump into the air when someone says boo do you check under the bed for terrorists before you sleep i refuse to be cowed by these criminals in the party of neocons. you may choose to do so. afterall it is your right to be a sheep if you want. edwards nice snip. no one knows what the hell youre referring to ya dolt. jeff .

From : miles

if you are going to ask a single question then edit the garbage away. and there is in fact middle ground. yes saddam needed to be dealt with but no we shouldnt have done it not the way we did anyway. you not only support kerry you think like he does. ok go for it! what is your plan oh nevermind kerry has the global test. that is the plan! lol john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : jeff mayner

gear ratios ax15 = 3.83 2.33 1.44 1.00 0.79 4.22r nv3500wide = 4.01 2.32 1.40 1.00 0.73 3.55r nv3500close = 3.48 2.16 1.40 1.00 0.73 3.55r hth excellent this is exactly what i was looking for. thank you! .

From : miles

jeff mayner wrote why is it that the bush admin is able to say they got some bad intelligence but the clinton admin isnt given the same out because youll vote for a guy who touted the very same intellegence over and over. because youll vote for a guy who has never once retracted his statements of only a year ago regarding iraq. because the intellegence reports that you are now ranting about actually do state saddam to have been a significant threat even though the liberal media only prints one paragraph of the 1500 page report. .

From : miles

on fri 08 oct 2004 134628 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 213158 -0400 steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote like i said you either believe that saddam should still be in power or you dont..there isnt any middle ground. tom were still waiting for an answer on this. why do you keep ignoring this question if you are going to ask a single question then edit the garbage away. and there is in fact middle ground. yes saddam needed to be dealt with but no we shouldnt have done it not the way we did anyway. lol. now i see why you love kerry. you two are peas in a pod. you cant even answer one question without contradicting yourself. weak tom very weak. tom says yes we should have dealt with him. did i say yes i meant no. well i dont mean no i mean maybe. not really maybe but i mean that we should have found some magic way to deal with him that would have made americans iraqis un members and the rest of the world love us. yeah thats the ticket thats exactly what i meant. yeah thats my answer. at least for now anyway i think. but then maybe not and dont ask me what that magic way is because itll just make my head hurt even more. .

From : miles

jeff mayner wrote miles wrote jeff mayner wrote no weapons no weapons programs no weapons related programs and no weapons related program activities. you really do need to read the report because youd realize your statements are based on false propaganda rather than whats actually in the report. you rely on one single headline from the liberal media to base all your facts on. typical. again i must ask how the hell do you know what im thinking try again peter h. huh you stated what you were thinking right above. it shows you bought into the liberal medias hype of one line with total disregard for the rest of the reports content. geez some ppls kids. .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote it is of course nothing of the sort. bullshit and you know it. the only bs here is this crap from you. i qualified my comment with since you were commenting on over driving the blower you couldnt have been talking about a exhaust driven turbo. you didnt qualify shit. all you are doing is spinning because you now see that you had your head up your butt once again and are dead wrong. you were not talking about a turbo you were talking about a blower and you made the comment about a waste gate then claimed it was a example of something simple when you could have easily said pulley which is a easy change to what you were talking about. you really do have your head up your ass jerry. i used the turbo waste gate as nothing more than another example of how an easy change can have massive gains in boost and power in a force fed engine. changing the drive pulleys on a supercharger has similar results to adjusting the waste gate on a turbo and can cause the same problems if care is not taken. no troll boy you thought a blower was controlled by a waste gate and you as usual fucked up with you lack of knowledge. i specifically said turbocharger you ignorant pinhead and was using it as a comparison to changing the drive pulley on a supercharger. i can see why you support bush now your just too damn stupid to do anything else. you are the one that ran and checked the internet to find you goof and you are the one trying to spin and cover up. you are a fucking idiot troll boy. go back and re-read what i said moron. funny how denny seemed to understand what i was talking about. perhaps because he is not desperate like you to cause shit with people. the only one spinning to cover up a screw-up here is you. you really hate it when your wrong dont you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : steve carolinabreezehvac

in my honest personal opinion t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. in my honest personal opinion i am a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything i offer as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. and you claim you never have re-written anyone elses posts. you are a damned liar tom. wrong!!! wrong!!! wrong!!! yes you are but we are used to it. of course you are never wrong . . . . .rotflmbo!!!!! sure i am. it just seems that way to you because you so seldom correct. sure troll-boy in your dreams . . so how come you have 3 or more people pointing out your screw ups all the time and i rarely get corrected by anyone gee its because you dont know anything. no you implied whatever the supplier sent you were stuck with. really dudd funny how i just cut and pasted my previous comment into this one. the only implications came from your spin. sorry budd once again you are wrong. spin and duck troll boy but you still made the implication. wrong a turbo is no more difficult then a belt driven supercharger to upgrade. lol actually it is easier but that is not the point oh dim one. the point is that a turbo rebuild is not in the same class of modification as a pulley swap. sorry budd but you lose again. no tommy-troll you lose. drag racing generally only allows one hour between rounds to make repairs re-tune or whatever. the turbo enthusiates will change a compressor a scroll a core a complete turbo or adjust a wastegate in that time period. a supercharger car has the same restrictions. heck aa/fd guys do a complete overhaul in that time frame. point its not as difficult as you in your lack of knowledge or experience claim. i have no connection to them but you may. well actually budd you are a waste but that is not the point either. you did say that the waste gate had an effect on spool up time which is of course completely wrong. what exactly did you do for those 6 months at dodge wash the cars or is that the reason that you only lasted 6 months. i think that ill chalk that story up as about as believable as you lawn cutting at a bank presidents salary bs. lol where did i say i worked for dodge tommy-troll and your knowledge of automotive mechanics is as usual underwhelming. then you agree my ascertainment of your mechanical prowess is dead on accurate . . . i dont see that. i only see you describing yourself here. then go buy a mirror . . i suggest a stainless steel one for durability. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : jeff mayner

miles wrote tbone wrote who caresclinton isnt president anymore and never based his entire career as president on a bs war. btw clinton did not have the information that bush had. for the most part he sure did. clinton told bush early on that saddam needed to be dealt with and quick. last year clinton was quoted publicly as saying that on the day he left office saddam had wmds. why is it that the bush admin is able to say they got some bad intelligence but the clinton admin isnt given the same out say wasnt george tenant.... ;- jeff .

From : jeff mayner

budd cochran wrote this link http//www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml takes you to a ford site where all the major brands of automotive air filters are tested empirically for filtration and flow. included at the site is a chart that tells how big a filter a given engine displacement needs for a maximum rpm. i am not responsible for the content of the site so dont complain to me if it tells you something you dont want to hear. heh-heh... you know this is gonna spawn a looong thread right personally anything thatll bump the political threads out of here is good in my book. ;- jeff .

From : jeff mayner

steve@carolinabreezehvac wrote budd cochran wrote what i find bothersome is that the report came out now after over 4 years. pres. bush only acted as hes promised saddam when saddam refused to let the un investigators look around . . .could it be he was hiding or destroying his wmds do you think investigtors were looking around. remember the el samoud missles thet up to now is the only thing that has been found. no weapons no weapons programs no weapons related programs and no weapons related program activities.you dont believe that it was hussein that kicked them out do you he didnt in 98 and he didnt in 03. i remember bush saying he did after the fact and having to retract. actually it was ari that retracted cause we all know bush cannot admit a mistake. can you http//www.fox.com/story/0293312013700.html you dont believe that this is the iraqi war 2 do you since this is a continuation of the first military action....as we have never ceased since 91... oh..this link also credits your kicked out statement... http//www.tandl.vt.edu/foundations/mediaproject/mediaprojecthtml/iraq14.html forgot to say thanks for the link. interesting site. jeff if the report had come out in a timely manner if the investigators hadnt been delayed from doing their jobs would pres. bush have attacked iraq at all reports coming out in a timely manner lol... not from the bush administration. its a minor miricle it came out at all. just another example of the bush admin. shooting themselves in the foot. if they had let all this crap out in 03 most of it would have blown over and theyd be able to count on the american publics short attention span to do the work for them. and clinton had it before him....what did he do with it did you get a load of rummy yesterday l. paul bremmer why hasnt any of the media noticed this what media are you watching ive read several reports both foreign and domestic. jeff what a load of biased propaganda. doesnt mention much about the full content of the report. typical liberal media. leave out the facts and spin what creates division. afterall division is what the democrats need to survive. sal wrote baghdad oct. 7 xinhuanet -- a us report on iraqs alleged weapons of mass destruction wmd which cleared iraq of possession of such arms triggered fiery condemnation among the iraqis on thursday. http//.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/07/content2061461.htm one of 1880 related sites .

From : jeff mayner

steve@carolinabreezehvac wrote budd cochran wrote what i find bothersome is that the report came out now after over 4 years. pres. bush only acted as hes promised saddam when saddam refused to let the un investigators look around . . .could it be he was hiding or destroying his wmds do you think investigtors were looking around. remember the el samoud missles thet up to now is the only thing that has been found. no weapons no weapons programs no weapons related programs and no weapons related program activities.you dont believe that it was hussein that kicked them out do you he didnt in 98 and he didnt in 03. i remember bush saying he did after the fact and having to retract. actually it was ari that retracted cause we all know bush cannot admit a mistake. can you http//www.fox.com/story/0293312013700.html sorry steve. i cannot in good conscience accept anything from fox as legitimate reporting. their reporting is so full of distortions and outright lies that it poisens everything imo. you dont believe that this is the iraqi war 2 do you since this is a continuation of the first military action....as we have never ceased since 91... oh..this link also credits your kicked out statement... is this continuous war youre talking about some new bush admin spin i know theyre desperate. why are righties now saying that the intervening 12 years of sanctions and no fly zones were a continuation of the gulf war when they all said nothing of the sort before could it be that because every single justification used by the bush administration given for going to war with iraq has been shown to be nothing but lies well except for hussein being a bad man and hussein trying to kill bush dad that is. no argument from me about the former. there has been argument about not by me about the latter. http//www.tandl.vt.edu/foundations/mediaproject/mediaprojecthtml/iraq14.html if the report had come out in a timely manner if the investigators hadnt been delayed from doing their jobs would pres. bush have attacked iraq at all reports coming out in a timely manner lol... not from the bush administration. its a minor miricle it came out at all. just another example of the bush admin. shooting themselves in the foot. if they had let all this crap out in 03 most of it would have blown over and theyd be able to count on the american publics short attention span to do the work for them. and clinton had it before him....what did he do with it destroyed all the remaining wmd in 98. while by the way the right-wing was screaming no war for monica! no war for monica! oh thats right must not give clinton any credit for anything right the fact of the matter was and colin powell agreed hussein was not a danger to his neighbors or us he was not a gathering or iminant threat. he had no wmds no air force and as it turns out very little army to speak of. he didnt even talk on the telephone for the last year and a half while in power for hecks sake. anyway iraq is not even on my radar screen any longer. to me its all about the domestic issues and what the country is going to do come 2nov. looks like gwb is going to retire a little earlier than expected. think hell stay in crawford ;- jeff did you get a load of rummy yesterday l. paul bremmer why hasnt any of the media noticed this what media are you watching ive read several reports both foreign and domestic. jeff what a load of biased propaganda. doesnt mention much about the full content of the report. typical liberal media. leave out the facts and spin what creates division. afterall division is what the democrats need to survive. sal wrote baghdad oct. 7 xinhuanet -- a us report on iraqs alleged weapons of mass destruction wmd which cleared iraq of possession of such arms triggered fiery condemnation among the iraqis on thursday. http//.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/07/content2061461.htm one of 1880 related sites .

From : jeff mayner

budd cochran wrote what media are you watching ive read several reports both foreign and domestic. jeff the only one that pits liberal and conservatives views against each other doent allow one or the other to dominate the proceedings and allows you to think for yourself instead of subtly injecting their biased viewpoints into the horribly edited reporting . . .fox . try it if you dare. lol... try viewing outfoxed if you dare. fox .... l-o-double l. jeff .

From : steve carolinabreezehvac

steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote really what exactly did bush do to stop terror prior to 9/11. oh thats right spending money prior to an actual attack on his watch would have made it difficult for him to institute his tax cut for the wealthy. even a was and sending in our troops without the proper equipment isnt enough to stop him from making his friends richer still. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lets see....clinton had the same info that bush had.... what did clinton do who caresclinton isnt president anymore and never based his entire career as president on a bs war. btw clinton did not have the information that bush had. he was sitting president over the war then...yes..he was. get your history clear....the gulf war never ended...we had a cease-fire in 91 yet we averaged one attack on them every three days... you really ought to care as i can bet that hillary will run in the next election possibly with billy as her vice... then you know he can run again as president.. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

on thu 7 oct 2004 john kunkel wrote the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. ....and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. .

From : budd cochran

this link http//www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml takes you to a ford site where all the major brands of automotive air filters are tested empirically for filtration and flow. included at the site is a chart that tells how big a filter a given engine displacement needs for a maximum rpm. i am not responsible for the content of the site so dont complain to me if it tells you something you dont want to hear. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : budd cochran

lol he still says that iraq was a threat to the us that has never changed. is it true kerry & edwards will restart the military draft remember how the lefties stated that bush would bring it back well....the republicans got tired of that and iirc it went before congress this week...tuesday i think... btw it got shot down....there will not be a draft re-instatement in the near future...prob the next 4 years.. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : miles

john z kerry wrote is it true kerry & edwards will restart the military draft only if it passes the global test................ jerry ok thanks thats right kerry said he will go to the un for approval of anything he does. looks like the un will be our new government if kerry gets in. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : miles

my 04 diesel is getting the same mileage as my 1/2 ton chevy 16-17mpg in mixed driving. the diesel isnt broke in yet but i dont expect much better 1-2mpg. odd that you are want a 3/4 ton truck for 140 mile commutes. how heavy are you im 160 lbs. ; i dont haul anything ... although i plan on getting a boat soon. i dont *need* a 3/4 ton. i *want* a 3/4 ton with a cummins. its my dream truck. i just wanted to know how much mpg i could expect realisticly and whether or not the 6-speed helped any. i think i got my answer. now i will just wait until a serious rebate hits. craig c. .

From : jeff mayner

john z kerry wrote is it true kerry & edwards will restart the military draft only if it passes the global test................ jerry .

From : jeff mayner

miles wrote budd cochran wrote what i find bothersome is that the report came out now after over 4 years. pres. bush only acted as hes promised saddam when saddam refused to let the un investigators look around . . .could it be he was hiding or destroying his wmds do you think if the report had come out in a timely manner if the investigators hadnt been delayed from doing their jobs would pres. bush have attacked iraq at all why hasnt any of the media noticed this the media has noticed this but only report one line of the report and skip all the rest. the report made it clear that saddam had worked on plans to create wmds but had put it on hold awaiting lifting of sanctions. it was clear saddam wanted to restart the program asap. the report also did say saddam created small chemical weapons to be used for assasinations etc. the media knows all this but goes against its views to report it. do you have a cite for this i havent seen anything about it. i read foreign and domestic reports. jeff .

From : miles

i think monroe has discontinued the sensa trac and replaced it with the reflex. how long have you had the reflexs and are you just as satisfied with them as the last set kevin monroe still sells both sensa-trac and reflex. .

From : miles

on thu 07 oct 2004 162013 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on thu 07 oct 2004 155110 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote gigolo kerry wrote kerrys facts just dont add up but bush and cheneys lies do. said it before will say it again....and i dontknow whats so hard to understand... there are no good choices this go round...but i know whos stood behind his convictions and not waivered to gain votes... lol please define waivered without the typical right wing spin. now...do we want a guy in office that thinks the world is a better place with saddam out there or one that did what he set out to do that is not what he said and you know that. the point is that he had no wmds and his ability to manufacture them had fallen apart years ago. bush rushed in with no game plan and as a result the world is more dangerous than ever and over 1000 of our brave men and women are dead for no valid reason and this is your choice also...remember...north carolina didnt want edwards...and we still dont. if that is true how did he get in you just never quit do you steves post really summed the whole thing up pretty well in very few words. now youre gonna add a whole bunch of words but youll say very liitle. kind of like the difference in the two candidates sorry guy you can keep your head buried in the sands of fear all you want and refuse to see the writing on the wall but it is still there just the same. i never said that kerry was great but bush is worse and i doubt that the country can afford four more years of him running it. then take the time to answer steves questions. dont spew more trivial i know it all bs and ignore the questions. should saddam still be the pres. of iraq simple question just interested in a left wing view of. should he .

From : john z kerry

calm down bonehead....errrr t-bone and go take your heart meds with some milk. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote gigolo kerry wrote kerrys facts just dont add up but bush and cheneys lies do. said it before will say it again....and i dontknow whats so hard to understand... there are no good choices this go round...but i know whos stood behind his convictions and not waivered to gain votes... lol please define waivered without the typical right wing spin. now...do we want a guy in office that thinks the world is a better place with saddam out there or one that did what he set out to do that is not what he said and you know that. the point is that he had no wmds and his ability to manufacture them had fallen apart years ago. bush rushed in with no game plan and as a result the world is more dangerous than ever and over 1000 of our brave men and women are dead for no valid reason and this is your choice also...remember...north carolina didnt want edwards...and we still dont. if that is true how did he get in -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

van wrote my 04 diesel is getting the same mileage as my 1/2 ton chevy 16-17mpg in mixed driving. the diesel isnt broke in yet but i dont expect much better 1-2mpg. odd that you are want a 3/4 ton truck for 140 mile commutes. how heavy are you a lot of people hear stories of the great mileage the diesel offers. typically a truck with the cummins will average from 16-22 mpg empty depending on configuration. there are gasoline engine trucks that will do this and are better suited for daily driving. the claims of super high mpg claims that are made about the diesel equipped trucks must be taken with a grain of salt. for example someone fails to mention the fact the reason they once got 26 mpg was the drove no faster than 55 mph for a full tank. not very practical on the highways around some areas. where the cummins equipped truck shines is when pulling or hauling a heavy load where you can get 12-14 mpg where as a gasser will drop to 7-9 mpg or lower and the diesel will have more power and better fuel economy when driving into high altitudes. jerry .

From : budd cochran

lol he still says that iraq was a threat to the us that has never changed. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote lol please define waivered without the typical right wing spin. spin is what you lefties do when you try to say that kerry has never waivered on his position on iraq. feb. 2002 he stated iraq is the main threat to the usa. he now says that wasnt true but wont say he was wrong in his statement. ya the right spins kerrys own statements and the left just forgets what he said only months ago. .

From : miles

kerry-edwards will get confused. get confused im not sure its possible to get those 2 anymore confused darn! you got me on that one! i will have to watch you in the future closer. like kerry t-bone is so confused he supports bush sometimes. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : sal

steve@carolinabreezehvac wrote lets see....clinton had the same info that bush had.... what did clinton do not much. but here we are today with the left saying no to premptive strikes then complain that bush didnt do just that prior to 9/11. go figure. bush did sign a directive for premptive strikes against al queda targets just 1 month prior to 9/11. had they been carried out the left would have screamed loud blasting those premptive strikes. .

From : tbone

craig christian wrote frankly miles the thing that is meaningless here to me is your close minded opinion of this subject. you know the reason that people dont search out alternatives there isnt any viable alternatives. then do without. we are in the here and now. alternatives are not. they are the future and not the present. what i am talking about is for the present not the long term future. with that said we need to stop being dependent on foreign oil today and that means allowing us to tap our own oil rather than get it from someone elses backyard. thats exactly the point of this entire discussion. im not trying shut down the oil companies or say that you cant drive your gas guzzler. no but you tell us we have to get our oil from someone else. alternatives are for the long term. right now we need to get off the dependency of foriegn oil. right now the alternatives are not adequate to do so. *if* there were more alternatives i firmly believe that most people would choose the selection that is better for the environment. i would ... and i bet you would too. sure most people would do so. but us conservatives are more realistic about the here and now. we recognize the need for alternatives for our future but realize that they wont be technologically available today. and today we have a problem of dependency. the liberals view does nothing for today. sorry i completely disagree for all the reasons i have already said. you havent said much except that alaska is beautiful and therefore shouldnt be drilled. you also mentioned we should develop alternatives instead. what i say is that we need to do both. we cant ignore the problems faced today while looking at the future. did you not just contradict yourself here or at the very least answer your own question no i said the very fact we live causes damage to the enviroment. everything people do and consume causes damage. the alternative to living is not acceptable to me. the usa uses less enviromentally damaging methods to obtain oil than does the middle east. it is all one world we live in. the oil will get used whether produced in the middle east or here. i believe it is in our best interest to obtain it here rather than there. that results in less enviromental damage as well as getting us off dependency. two things ... 1 bush stands to profit from drilling alaska. no he doesnt. wrong companies involved. that is a very very leftist bs statement without basis and is politically motivated. anwar has been discussed for decades long before bush was president and as gov. of tx. he had nothing to do with its planning discussions etc. you do realize that bushs tax returns which show the companies he is invested in are public record dont you yes and ive looked at kerrys too. his wifes companies alone employ 80% of its workforce outside the usa. talk about outsourcing. perhaps you should look at it 2 the government stands to profit from drilling alaska. im sure they will levy some stupid ass tax on it ... not to mention ... whos going to guard the pipeline who guards the alaskan pipeline you want that torn down too just because someone isnt as right close minded in my opinion as you does not mean they are liberal or left. close minded is refusing to face reality of a situation or even research it in full. what effects on the enviroment has the alaskan pipeline caused over the decades if it didnt exist would the demand for oil in the world be reduced by its output all you would do is shift to somewhere else. thats reality rather than the closed mindedness of the left who base their views almost entirely on emotions. geez you are so totalitarian. last i read u.s. oil comprises less than 5% of what we use. we can survive just fine without drilling here! gee why is it only 5% maybe because of liberals who seem to think it is fine to be dependent on foreign oil your view of surviving just fine the way we have been is very closed minded. .

From : john z kerry

andrew smith wrote sounds stock to me. dodge makes the only d thats 325 hp and 600 pounds of torque straight from the show room floor. its kinda funny its only a 6 cylinder too. too bad the transmission wont handle it. you really need to get out more often.............might keep you up to date. jerry .

From : napalmheart

with pickup truck sales in a 13 percent decline this year 2006 manufacturers feel a heightened sense of urgency over the texas state fairs potential effect on sales. industry executives say one out of every four vehicles sold in texas is a pickup as compared to one out of eight elsewhere in the united states. this is the high-stakes game a shootout at the ok corral said david cole chairman of the center for automotive research in ann arbor. its got all the drama you could imagine but with trucks as major players. the texas battleground is so fierce that companies dispatch teams of high-ranking executives and engineers to visit the fair and tout their new or redesigned models. as one manufacturer unveils its latest version engineers from other companies armed with tape measures and note pads pounce to do a quick study of their newest competitor. and each year new model introductions seem to get more elaborate. fords new model f-450 -- top executive mark fields in the drivers seat -- was lowered by crane 75 feet to the ground. fields fords president of the americas later was joined by company spokesman and country western singer toby keith who pulled up in another f-450. this is ground zero for truck leadership fields told the associated press. if you dont show up in texas particularly at a venue like the state fair you might as well not show up at all. this is where you duke it out. its where you make your bones as far as burnishing truck production. http//www.boston.com/business/articles/2006/10/05/truckmakershopefortexassizesales/ sorry about the comment on the other one. both good articles! .