One brake pad went down to the metal 99 Ram 1500
From : Annonymous
Q: friday while driving home my drivers side brake started roaring. i took it down to justbrakes and they said the back side pad went down to the metal but all other pads in the truck were just fine had them replaced 2 years ago. he said the front caliper jammed up and needed to be rebuilt and the rotor was too damaged to turn which i think was bs it was just close to the tolerance he also said the right rear cylinder disc on front drums in back had leaked a little fluid because some paint was bubbled on the inside but it was dry. so the guy said the bare minimum to make it safe would be to completely replace the rotor rebuild the front caliper and replace both back cylinders. he claimed that my back brakes were not working at all which i think was bs. the total would be $309 plus tax but there was really more he wanted to do such as replace the springs and stuff. i asked what the cost on the rotor was and he said $150 because dodge rotors are more expensive due to the bearings i said i dont have that kind of cash and wont until the end of the month so i said put the wheels back on and ill park it in my driveway until then. i think when he took a micrometer to the front rotor it read 1225 and the other side was 1250 and i think he said 1210 was the replacement threshold and turning the rotor would put it too close to 1210. from the limited information i provided what do you think the brakes were installed 2 years ago at pep boys. .
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From : the reverend natural light
2001 dodge dakota slt 4.7l4x4 just shy of 50k miles... as some of you know my dak and i are world travelers. the truck is currently on a boat out of singapore or somewhere on its way to australia... where we are going doesnt appear to even have a chrysler dealership so ill be on my own for parts... when i had the uk shop reverse the conversion work itd done on my truck to make it uk legal they informed me that the switch to the backup lights had died. im back in the us for a couple weeks with plans to stop at a dodge dealer for parts. can anybody tell me what the part number/ actual name is for this switch might save me some time. also i probably asked before but is this part user-replaceable also also is there anything else that isnt huge that i should pick up bits or pieces that are likely to fail or should be replaced in the next couple of years the trucks been in a high moisture/salt environment its now going to a high heat/sand environment. fortunately theyre a lot more familiar with trucks where im going than where i came from so finding a competent mechanic shouldnt be a problem. finding the parts may be. theres an active 4x4 club at my new workplace...im quite looking forward to playing in the sand with my truck jmc jodi email me with your email addy and i will send you the info you need oz huh mike . 222 318162 1147897562.602229.118940@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com ive never seen a set of rotors come off a lathe that were still in spec for thickness. if money is the issue fix it yourself. calipers $20 each +core pads $25 set rotors $42 each. $149 total for new rotors calipers and pads on both sides. change the brake fluid!!! it sucks up water over time and causes caliper pistons to seize in the caliper bores. if it looks dark in the master cylinder then its time. keep an eye on the rear cylinders. -rev .
From : bob
nightwolf1000@gmail.com wrote friday while driving home my drivers side brake started roaring. i took it down to justbrakes and they said the back side pad went down to the metal but all other pads in the truck were just fine had them replaced 2 years ago. he said the front caliper jammed up and needed to be rebuilt and the rotor was too damaged to turn which i think was bs it was just close to the tolerance he also said the right rear cylinder disc on front drums in back had leaked a little fluid because some paint was bubbled on the inside but it was dry. so the guy said the bare minimum to make it safe would be to completely replace the rotor rebuild the front caliper and replace both back cylinders. he claimed that my back brakes were not working at all which i think was bs. the total would be $309 plus tax but there was really more he wanted to do such as replace the springs and stuff. i asked what the cost on the rotor was and he said $150 because dodge rotors are more expensive due to the bearings i said i dont have that kind of cash and wont until the end of the month so i said put the wheels back on and ill park it in my driveway until then. i think when he took a micrometer to the front rotor it read 1225 and the other side was 1250 and i think he said 1210 was the replacement threshold and turning the rotor would put it too close to 1210. from the limited information i provided what do you think the brakes were installed 2 years ago at pep boys. if this were my truck and its not heres what i would do. 1. adjust the back brakes and otherwise leave them alone. a little bit of paint bubbling around the cylinders isnt that big of a deal. 2. replace both front rotors both calipers and all the pads. if one caliper has locked up the other one may not be far behind. if you only rebuild one then there will be an imbalance in braking; not a good thing. pads come in sets of 4. youll pay for all 4 but only get to use the one thats replaced. if the rotors are flat and not too wavy theres not reason you cant refinish and reuse them. but if the pad has gouged big grooves in it it should be replaced not matter what the micrometer says. if you shop at autozone parts are a lot cheaper. loaded calipers $90 pair rotors $66 each -- ..bob arrived 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : Annonymous
thanks for the reply. the front caliper does move i forgot to mention that i think it just got stuck too close on the back side. the rest of the front pads have about 1/4 left on them. the back is a little less. the mechanic seemed to think that the pad on the back of the rotor was dragging for a while and now that ive seen the result i remember thinking to myself recently that one wheel seemed to be getting dirtier than the other. .
From : pj
price sounds fair -- of course you can do it a lot cheaper yourself if you know how. replace pads on both sides. friday while driving home my drivers side brake started roaring. i took it down to justbrakes and they said the back side pad went down to the metal but all other pads in the truck were just fine had them replaced 2 years ago. he said the front caliper jammed up and needed to be rebuilt and the rotor was too damaged to turn which i think was bs it was just close to the tolerance he also said the right rear cylinder disc on front drums in back had leaked a little fluid because some paint was bubbled on the inside but it was dry. so the guy said the bare minimum to make it safe would be to completely replace the rotor rebuild the front caliper and replace both back cylinders. he claimed that my back brakes were not working at all which i think was bs. the total would be $309 plus tax but there was really more he wanted to do such as replace the springs and stuff. i asked what the cost on the rotor was and he said $150 because dodge rotors are more expensive due to the bearings i said i dont have that kind of cash and wont until the end of the month so i said put the wheels back on and ill park it in my driveway until then. i think when he took a micrometer to the front rotor it read 1225 and the other side was 1250 and i think he said 1210 was the replacement threshold and turning the rotor would put it too close to 1210. from the limited information i provided what do you think the brakes were installed 2 years ago at pep boys. .
From : xclimation
i would see what kind of warranty the place you went two years ago has to offer. i hear radio commercials that offer lifetime guarantee on brake pads. friday while driving home my drivers side brake started roaring. i took it down to justbrakes and they said the back side pad went down to the metal but all other pads in the truck were just fine had them replaced 2 years ago. he said the front caliper jammed up and needed to be rebuilt and the rotor was too damaged to turn which i think was bs it was just close to the tolerance he also said the right rear cylinder disc on front drums in back had leaked a little fluid because some paint was bubbled on the inside but it was dry. so the guy said the bare minimum to make it safe would be to completely replace the rotor rebuild the front caliper and replace both back cylinders. he claimed that my back brakes were not working at all which i think was bs. the total would be $309 plus tax but there was really more he wanted to do such as replace the springs and stuff. i asked what the cost on the rotor was and he said $150 because dodge rotors are more expensive due to the bearings i said i dont have that kind of cash and wont until the end of the month so i said put the wheels back on and ill park it in my driveway until then. i think when he took a micrometer to the front rotor it read 1225 and the other side was 1250 and i think he said 1210 was the replacement threshold and turning the rotor would put it too close to 1210. from the limited information i provided what do you think the brakes were installed 2 years ago at pep boys. .
From : marsh monster
.. .. ======= ======== nightwolf1000@gmail.com wrote friday while driving home my drivers side brake started roaring. i took it down to justbrakes and they said the back side pad went down to the metal but all other pads in the truck were just fine had them replaced 2 years ago. he said the front caliper jammed up and needed to be rebuilt and the rotor was too damaged to turn which i think was bs it was just close to the tolerance he also said the right rear cylinder disc on front drums in back had leaked a little fluid because some paint was bubbled on the inside but it was dry. so the guy said the bare minimum to make it safe would be to completely replace the rotor rebuild the front caliper and replace both back cylinders. he claimed that my back brakes were not working at all which i think was bs. the total would be $309 plus tax but there was really more he wanted to do such as replace the springs and stuff. i asked what the cost on the rotor was and he said $150 because dodge rotors are more expensive due to the bearings i said i dont have that kind of cash and wont until the end of the month so i said put the wheels back on and ill park it in my driveway until then. i think when he took a micrometer to the front rotor it read 1225 and the other side was 1250 and i think he said 1210 was the replacement threshold and turning the rotor would put it too close to 1210. from the limited information i provided what do you think the brakes were installed 2 years ago at pep boys. ======= ======= regardless of what everyone else has posted up till now........ if and i do quote you all the other pads were good then the caliper is not definately the problem. if you consider the facts of your post that the other pads were fine and apply basic brake theory of operation to the diagnosis of one worn to metal inner pad then i wouldnt be jumping the gun shooting from the hip or otherwise making a guess that the caliper is causing the one pad to wear out. consider the fact that the outboard pad was still just fine. brake rotor run out wobble warp whatever name you feel you need to apply causes the pads to pulsate away from the rotor making a minor clearance. though it is fact that the seal design of the caliper piston seal is such that the piston is retracted inward to the caliper this alone is not enough to pull the inboard pad away from the rotor in that its a very minimal amount of retraction taking place. the caliper piston is not only applying the inboard pad but the outboard pad as well. with only an inboard pad wear scenario further diagnosis should be given to why the outboard pad was not wearing as substantially as the inboard pad. consider that the if the piston is binding hanging or otherwise restricted from retracting as to wear out an inboard pad to the metal backing plate.........then the outboard pad should not be just fine. so........ if your post is factually correct............ recheck the system and pointedly scrutinize the guides and pad retainers. unless..... yer post isnt factually correct.....then disregard all my rambling. as to yer back brakes...... fix the front do a repost if you have any further problems or...if you left something out or not. marshmonster takes a hit off his joint......wonders what yer definition of jest fine is .
From : marsh monster
... .. === === xclimation wrote i would see what kind of warranty the place you went two years ago has to offer. i hear radio commercials that offer lifetime guarantee on brake pads. ==== ==== lifetime guarantee is applicable only when wear is normal or due to a manufacturers defect. ever tried to prove a manufacturer defect guarantee is void when wear is proven to be caused by defective parts acting upon the gauranteed part. fact not fiction. though.....i personally have often and most likely in every case will offer to warranty the covered part if the customer agrees to repair all mechanical defects on the vehical that are acting upon the warrantied part. now given all that i think the price he got was low if in fact the caliper is definately bad. and im not convinced by a long shot that thats his problem. not only low..... but way low. again fact not fiction. marsh monster sips his crownroyal .
From : coasty uscgret at comcast dot net
doing a complete break job on the 1500 ram today and that means replacement of everything. the drums rotors rear wheel cylinders springs seals new pre-loades front calipers. total cost for all parts $330.00 and about 4 hours of work. 120k on the ram original rotors and drums turned once by self and a break job done at 56k. present breaks have than a 64th of an inch material left on them. on vehicles 20 years ago you could get 50k to 80k on a set of breaks but not today for the following reasons. todays breaks last 30k to 50k this is the average. the average break operating temperature on older vehicles 20 years or more was 350 to 450 degreed. on newer vehicles the break operating temperature runs reom 500 to 650 degrees. you can only get the rotors and drums turned once reguardless of vehicle. it is better to buy new drumbs and rotors. 2- new rotors $55.00 charge to turn two rotors $40.00 2- new rear drums $74.00 charge to turn two drums $50.00. all said and done check your breaks every six months when rotating tires and there will be fewer surprises. coasty .