OT legality of strobe lights on vehicles, plus rough ride
From : ignoramus1729
Q: i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i .
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From : anthony
$n8.27644@fe35.usenetserver.com four bags is not that much i am surprised that you suggest that so little extra weight would help. not that i know anything. thats 320 lbs. just enough to get the springs off the full extended position. placing them nearer to the tailgate will be more beneficial. -- anthony you cant idiot proof anything....every time you try they just make better idiots. remove sp to reply via email .
From : bruce l bergman
on wed 01 feb 2006 185342 gmt ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid wrote regarding patching the paint you are touching an interesting question. what is the greyish stuff beneath the white paint is it primer probably gray primer under white paint but check the trucks body tag for the original color - it might have been built as a silver truck then the state changed their mind and wanted the fleet all white and they had it repainted. gte did that - they got some really fast and cheap white paint jobs done. and it didnt help that some of the original silver paint jobs were rather tentatively stuck to the bodies in the first place... there were more than a few trucks that needed a full stripping down to primer and a proper second paint job done. is there some cheap solution like applying some crap remover and then spray painting large areas if it is primer and its clean no rust you can leave the existing paint alone. you just need to hit the bad spots with fine sandpaper 600 or finer wet-or-dry paper used wet to feather the edges of the bare spot smooth and get some tooth for the new paint to grab use the proper paint thinner to strip any wax oil or grease mask it off and paint it. several light coats build it up. any good auto parts store with an auto paint department can mix matching paint a quart at a time and theyll have the right thinner/reducer and all the other supplies you need. drive the truck there so they can see it and they can even adjust the color to match any existing fading so you dont have to repaint the whole thing... too bad its a dodge. rustoleum v2196838 4th68 fleet white in the piss can matches gm fleet white and its great for masking the inevitable bed dings. it might be close enough to match on a dodge. and remember its a truck - its for working not for looks. so what if the paint looks like crap if you study it up close. if it looks good when you back up 5 feet and its sealed so it cant rust thats all that really matters. ;-p -- bruce -- -- bruce l. bergman woodland hills los angeles ca - desktop electrician for westend electric - ca726700 5737 kanan rd. #359 agoura ca 91301 818 889-9545 spamtrapped address remove the python and the invalid and use a net. .
From : wiz
a yellow light is recognized as a caution indicator in every state. it does not identify your vehicle as an emergency vehicle. were these lights red or blue i believe you would be ok as long as you didnt ever turn them on. once you did you would be subject to citation. wiz i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i .
From : hp
in new hampshire blue lights are reserved for l.e.officers. technically the officer must be in the vehicle if the light can be seen whether on/off. red for fireambulancespurple for funeral vehiclesyellow for caution. physicians may also have red if responding to hospital on emergencies. a yellow light is recognized as a caution indicator in every state. it does not identify your vehicle as an emergency vehicle. were these lights red or blue i believe you would be ok as long as you didnt ever turn them on. once you did you would be subject to citation. wiz i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i .
From : rachel easson
on wed 01 feb 2006 142429 gmt ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg on wed 01 feb 2006 163742 gmt bruce l bergman blpythonbergman@earthlink.invalid replied imho id patch the paint but leave the orange stripes on the truck so the cop can see its and ex-state vehicle and the legality of the lights will never be an issue - unless youre dealing with a total asshat like sheriff buford t. justice. and if the officer is out to hassle you and is looking for any chickens**t reason to give you a ticket let it be the amber warning lights. thats an easy one to get a judge to dismiss. on wed 01 feb 2006 185342 gmt ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid replied i agree. i am not terribly worried. regarding patching the paint you are touching an interesting question. what is the greyish stuff beneath the white paint is it primer is there some cheap solution like applying some crap remover and then spray painting large areas its bed is full of dried paint. i think that they used it to get to a location deliver paint and whatnot and then
From : ignoramus28190
on sat 04 feb 2006 102417 -0500 rachel easson rske@sympatico.ca wrote on wed 01 feb 2006 142429 gmt ignoramus1729 i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg if the bed is really lumpy with the dried paint see about renting a heat stripper. if it is not so bad get a used bedlinerfor $30-50 -- the paint underneath will stop the bed from ever rusting! the truck already has a rubber bedliner. the paint is not lumpy and i really appreciate having 1/8 of dried caked paint there like you say it is a greatrust protector. about the touchups try lightly sanding where the grey shows through and spray a couple of light coats of white chromium primer and where you see the metal -- tailgate and spots on rear quarter -- you should sand off the rust and use quite a few coats comes in spray bomb -- can get it in stock usually in black and white or order the right colour from most napa type places this type of primer sticks well and helps prevent rust. after that you dont really need to paint because this type of primer comes as a gloss. so if i go to napa i should ask for a white chromium primer right btw i love your truck -- great shape for a 86-89. let me know if you come across another one with a slant six 225 360 400 or 440 ny 4 year old loves it too it rides like a boat until it hits a speedbump. the truck is a 90 by the way. it has only 35 thousand miles on it. my own 1999 dodge ram truck http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/packing/clausing/dscf0027.jpg i had for the last 7 years already has twice more miles. i will eventually sell the 90 truck but so far i drive it wherever i can. i bought it at an auction. heres a video of the dodge 350 http//www.algebra.com/ichudov/spool/dodge350.avi thanks for the primer suggestions. i .
From : bruce l bergman
on wed 01 feb 2006 142429 gmt ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. red or blue lights would be a problem because they are almost universally reserved for police and fire use only - even possessing the red or blue domes for those rotary beacons could be turned into an impersonating an officer beef if they wanted to stretch it. amber lights are no problem if used properly - when the vehicle is used in emergency construction or maintenance work and they often stop in the middle of the road. go poke around at http//www.dot.state.il.us/ and see what the rules are. id say if you are worried get two flour sacks and cover up the beacons for now or you can sew up two nice light covers in heavy canvas or naugahyde with a draw-string bottom for permanent use. i would have found it fast if they had the illinois state site organized halfway decently... one nice thing about home its all easy to find online and cross referenced forty-seven ways. http//www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vcindexl.htm heres our law look under lights and lighting for all the categories that are specifically allowed to have amber beacons - disaster service workers and a whole batch of various construction and maintenance vehicles. but this is an important distinction - note that nowhere in the california codes is there anything that says you cant have them if you dont fall under one of the permissive categories just lots of categories that explicitly allow them. i cant see yours being that different but you never know. it all boils down to having a legitimate reason for /using/ them while on a public street or highway like stopping behind an accident and providing assistance to the people involved. imho id patch the paint but leave the orange stripes on the truck so the cop can see its and ex-state vehicle and the legality of the lights will never be an issue - unless youre dealing with a total asshat like sheriff buford t. justice. and if the officer is out to hassle you and is looking for any chickens**t reason to give you a ticket let it be the amber warning lights. thats an easy one to get a judge to dismiss. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it if you want it to ride really nice put a ton of dead weight in the bed. itll smooth it right out... yup heavy rating stiff springs. probably why it never got driven - it was issued to a department that never carried anything heavy like the architects or engineers and they never drove it because it rides like a buckboard when empty. given a choice theyd grab the keys to the sedan. -- bruce -- -- bruce l. bergman woodland hills los angeles ca - desktop electrician for westend electric - ca726700 5737 kanan rd. #359 agoura ca 91301 818 889-9545 spamtrapped address remove the python and the invalid and use a net. .
From : christopher thompson
on wed 01 feb 2006 142429 gmt ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. red or blue lights would be a problem because they are almost universally reserved for police and fire use only - even possessing the red or blue domes for those rotary beacons could be turned into an impersonating an officer beef if they wanted to stretch it. amber lights are no problem if used properly - when the vehicle is used in emergency construction or maintenance work and they often stop in the middle of the road. go poke around at http//www.dot.state.il.us/ and see what the rules are. id say if you are worried get two flour sacks and cover up the beacons for now or you can sew up two nice light covers in heavy canvas or naugahyde with a draw-string bottom for permanent use. fyi these covers are also avail commercially at www.galls.com i would have found it fast if they had the illinois state site organized halfway decently... one nice thing about home its all easy to find online and cross referenced forty-seven ways. http//www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vcindexl.htm heres our law look under lights and lighting for all the categories that are specifically allowed to have amber beacons - disaster service workers and a whole batch of various construction and maintenance vehicles. but this is an important distinction - note that nowhere in the california codes is there anything that says you cant have them if you dont fall under one of the permissive categories just lots of categories that explicitly allow them. i cant see yours being that different but you never know. it all boils down to having a legitimate reason for /using/ them while on a public street or highway like stopping behind an accident and providing assistance to the people involved. imho id patch the paint but leave the orange stripes on the truck so the cop can see its and ex-state vehicle and the legality of the lights will never be an issue - unless youre dealing with a total asshat like sheriff buford t. justice. and if the officer is out to hassle you and is looking for any chickens**t reason to give you a ticket let it be the amber warning lights. thats an easy one to get a judge to dismiss. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it if you want it to ride really nice put a ton of dead weight in the bed. itll smooth it right out... yup heavy rating stiff springs. probably why it never got driven - it was issued to a department that never carried anything heavy like the architects or engineers and they never drove it because it rides like a buckboard when empty. given a choice theyd grab the keys to the sedan. -- bruce -- -- bruce l. bergman woodland hills los angeles ca - desktop electrician for westend electric - ca726700 5737 kanan rd. #359 agoura ca 91301 818 889-9545 spamtrapped address remove the python and the invalid and use a net. .
From : napalmheart
on wed 01 feb 2006 083816 -0600 dthompson4389@spamwowway.com dt wrote ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid says... i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. im sure each state has its own regulations about lights. im in ohio and you can use yellow lights when you have an extended load instead of having a red flag on the end of the load. also when you are plowing snow. my son is acontractor and uses the light on his truck that way. in ontario it must be a blue flasher for snow - and only for snow. dennis in michigan blue flashing lights are police only. red for police and fire. yellow for anything else. ken .
From : christopher thompson
i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i check on the specifics with your local vol fire department. or even a full time one. here in ga there is a form to fill out where you have to provide your valid reason for wanting them. then it goes through an approval process and you get a permit if granted. keep in mind there are laws/rules that apply and you would need to research those also. -- -chris 05 ctd 99 durango .
From : dt
ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid says... i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. im sure each state has its own regulations about lights. im in ohio and you can use yellow lights when you have an extended load instead of having a red flag on the end of the load. also when you are plowing snow. my son is a contractor and uses the light on his truck that way. dennis .
From : tbone
every state and municipality for that matter is or can be different and you need to check with them. a quick trip to the municipal building will answer your questions. since the municipality did not remove them it is probably not illegal for them to be there but i cant say what the usage rules if any might apply. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i .
From : john husvar
christopher thompson kf4drr@alltel.net wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i check on the specifics with your local vol fire department. or even a full time one. here in ga there is a form to fill out where you have to provide your valid reason for wanting them. then it goes through an approval process and you get a permit if granted. keep in mind there are laws/rules that apply and you would need to research those also. ive always thought anti-collision strobes appropriately shielded to avoid blinding other drivers would be a good idea. a lot of school buses here in ohio have them mounted on top of the roof at the rear. i notice the flashing and slow down long before i actually see the buses especially in reduced visibility. aircraft have them and they have a lot more room to maneuver than auto drivers. anybody have any thoughts about these and/or the turn signals in the middle of trailers on 18-wheelers personally i dont see how it could hurt. .
From : roy
i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. i have used strobes in plow trucks for years. red and clear in the back and clear in the front marker. but only while plowing. with them turned off i suppose they could be any color as long as they are not functioning or used off road or on private property. when you have them turned on is when the problem of color comes up. usually red or amber in the back and amber to the front is okay. take a look at what the tow trucks in you area use or call the dmv. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps. roy thanks i .
From : ignoramus1729
on wed 1 feb 2006 102702 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. i have used strobes in plow trucks for years. red and clear in the back and clear in the front marker. but only while plowing. with them turned off i suppose they could be any color as long as they are not functioning or used off road or on private property. when you have them turned on is when the problem of color comes up. usually red or amber in the back and amber to the front is okay. take a look at what the tow trucks in you area use or call the dmv. thanks roy dt tbone christopher john. i will check with my dmv. i suppose that as long as i do not turn them on ishould not have a problem. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps. i have a half ton pickup also a dodge but the one ton truck bounces insanely. isuppose it is just due to strong springs. i .
From : ignoramus1729
on wed 01 feb 2006 163742 gmt bruce l bergman blpythonbergman@earthlink.invalid wrote on wed 01 feb 2006 142429 gmt ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. red or blue lights would be a problem because they are almost universally reserved for police and fire use only - even possessing the red or blue domes for those rotary beacons could be turned into an impersonating an officer beef if they wanted to stretch it. amber lights are no problem if used properly - when the vehicle is used in emergency construction or maintenance work and they often stop in the middle of the road. go poke around at http//www.dot.state.il.us/ and see what the rules are. id say if you are worried get two flour sacks and cover up the beacons for now or you can sew up two nice light covers in heavy canvas or naugahyde with a draw-string bottom for permanent use. thanks. i read what i could find there and like in ca there are many situations when they are required but i could not find any when they are forbidden. i could always say that i sometimes use this vehicle to escort wide loads. imho id patch the paint but leave the orange stripes on the truck so the cop can see its and ex-state vehicle and the legality of the lights will never be an issue - unless youre dealing with a total asshat like sheriff buford t. justice. and if the officer is out to hassle you and is looking for any chickens**t reason to give you a ticket let it be the amber warning lights. thats an easy one to get a judge to dismiss. i agree. i am not terribly worried. regarding patching the paint you are touching an interesting question. what is the greyish stuff beneath the white paint is it primer is there some cheap solution like applying some crap remover and then spray painting large areas 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it if you want it to ride really nice put a ton of dead weight in the bed. itll smooth it right out... yup heavy rating stiff springs. probably why it never got driven - it was issued to a department that never carried anything heavy like the architects or engineers and they never drove it because it rides like a buckboard when empty. given a choice theyd grab the keys to the sedan. its bed is full of dried paint. i think that they used it to get to a location deliver paint and whatnot and then it sat there all day long waiting for road painters to finish. i .
From : dave hinz
on wed 01 feb 2006 124013 -0800 don bruder dakidd@sonic.net wrote peter grey pgrey@earthlink.net wrote who knows what else he had done but it struck me that the cops take gratuitous use of a red light pretty seriously. ayup... if you aint a cop ambulance or fire truck and show red lights to the front youre effectively driving around with the equivalent of about a 40-by-40 foot billboard strapped to your roof that reads cmon cop! i dare ya! wassamatta too busy giving your k9 partner a bj - and youre likely to be dealt with accordingly... eh...depends. in wisconsin if youve got the lights and siren and if theyre both on you are an emergency vehicle by definition. those same lights in illinois might be a problem on or off. it varies by state at least. galls.com might have a guide to all that crap maybe. .
From : harold and susan vordos
on wed 1 feb 2006 102702 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. i have used strobes in plow trucks for years. red and clear in the back and clear in the front marker. but only while plowing. with them turned off i suppose they could be any color as long as they are not functioning or used off road or on private property. when you have them turned on is when the problem of color comes up. usually red or amber in the back and amber to the front is okay. take a look at what the tow trucks in you area use or call the dmv. thanks roy dt tbone christopher john. i will check with my dmv. i suppose that as long as i do not turn them on ishould not have a problem. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps. i have a half ton pickup also a dodge but the one ton truck bounces insanely. isuppose it is just due to strong springs. i yep! ive owned several pickups---ranging from half to one ton. the one ton trucks are sprung heavily to handle the load. youll be pleasantly surprised to find it rides quite nicely when you have it well loaded. harold .
From : harold and susan vordos
on wed 01 feb 2006 160403 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote it may also have bad shocks. while the ride should be stiffer with a 1 ton i dont know about bouncy. it is outright bouncy. i think that you have a good point about shocks. if you get one good hit when it hits the bump its the stiffer springs. if it continues to oscillate after hitting the bump then you have worn or inappropriate shocks. one ton pickups springs are - by my buttometer - a lot stiffer than half tons. peter id say your buttometer is working well. - harold .
From : peter grey
slightest flack from anybody official about them despite paper carriers being highly likely to be stopped targets around here northern ca because they and drunks tend to be about the only source of boredom relief available for the cops between roughly 2 and 6 am. red blue or white flashers on the other hand are or are nearly universally reserved for cops firetrucks and ambulances and putting one on pretty much any other vehicle never mind being stupid enough to actually light it up in traffic... is usually a quick way to get a free overnight stay at least in the local greybar hotel. a couple of years ago i was stuck in traffic on southbound 101 going up the hill out of tiburon before dropping down through the tunnel and over the golden gate bridge. traffic was completely clotted and no one was going faster than 3 mph. i was in the left lane not that it was doing me any good when i saw a car with a red light coming up behind me. i and all the other folks in the lane merged into the next lane not easy in the backup to let this guy through. hmmm... an older chevy malibu with a red light inside the car above his rear view mirror. never seen a car or light set up like that used by the cops. i got on my cell phone and let the highway patrol know of my suspicions. i stayed on the phone at the request of the dispatcher gave her the license plate number of the car and told her which lane the car was in. as this guy approached the toll plaza he turned the light off but there were two chp officers standing at the toll booth. one of them stopped the guy got in the car with him and directed him to the parking lot where other cops were waiting. the other found my car leaned in the window and thanked me. the other cops in the parking lot hauled the driver out of the car and cuffed him. that was the last thing i saw. who knows what else he had done but it struck me that the cops take gratuitous use of a red light pretty seriously. peter .
From : don bruder
peter grey pgrey@earthlink.net wrote who knows what else he had done but it struck me that the cops take gratuitous use of a red light pretty seriously. ayup... if you aint a cop ambulance or fire truck and show red lights to the front youre effectively driving around with the equivalent of about a 40-by-40 foot billboard strapped to your roof that reads cmon cop! i dare ya! wassamatta too busy giving your k9 partner a bj - and youre likely to be dealt with accordingly... -- don bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - if your from address isnt on my whitelist or the subject of the message doesnt contain the exact text popperandshadow somewhere any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my ever knowing it arrived. sorry... http//www.sonic.net/dakidd for more info .
From : peter grey
one ton pickups springs are - by my buttometer - a lot stiffer than half tons. peter id say your buttometer is working well. - harold thats the nicest thing anyones said to me in weeks... peter .
From : steve w
tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote every state and municipality for that matter is or can be different and you need to check with them. a quick trip to the municipal building will answer your questions. since the municipality did not remove them it is probably not illegal for them to be there but i cant say what the usage rules if any might apply. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i *in general* a yellow flasher is kosher anywhere being considered nothing more or less than a hey! look out! theres a vehicle here that you might not otherwise notice warning. about half of the carriers at the paper i substitute-carry for use yellow strobes/flashers. some of them are more or less permanent installations like a county truck or similar others use the kojak-style bubble that mag-mounts to the roof and plugs into the cig. lighter then gets tossed in the back seat when not on the route. i have yet to hear of any of them catching even the slightest flack from anybody official about them despite paper carriers being highly likely to be stopped targets around here northern ca because they and drunks tend to be about the only source of boredom relief available for the cops between roughly 2 and 6 am. red blue or white flashers on the other hand are or are nearly universally reserved for cops firetrucks and ambulances and putting one on pretty much any other vehicle never mind being stupid enough to actually light it up in traffic... is usually a quick way to get a free overnight stay at least in the local greybar hotel. green seems to be in a grey area legally - some places dont care. other places will jump on you with both feet. check with the powers that be *where you are* for the answer thats right in your case. -- depends a lot on your locality. in ny strobes or lights that flash in a strobe pattern are illegal regardless of color if they are used on any vehicle not authorized as an emergency or hazard vehicle. not sure how they are going to rule on led style lights yet since so far nobody has asked. for instance i am a fire police member. my vehicle can run one blue light for use while going to the station or to a call. once on scene i shut down the blue light and have amber and red alternating flashers that get turned on to warn people about the incident ahead. the ambers are mounted in the front and both side windows the reds are in the rear and use the factory tail lights and a set of halogen lights mounted in the rear window. 1. no light other than a white light and no revolving rotating flashing oscillating or constantly moving white light shall be affixed to or displayed on any vehicle except as prescribed herein. 2. red lights and certain white lights. one or more red or combination red and white lights or one white light which must be a revolving rotating flashing oscillating or constantly moving light may be affixed to an authorized emergency vehicle and such lights may be displayed on an authorized emergency vehicle when such vehicle is engaged in an emergency operation and upon a fire vehicle while returning from an alarm of fire or other emergency. 3. amber lights. a. one or more amber lights may be affixed to a hazard vehicle and such a light or lights which display an amber light visible to all approaching traffic under normal atmospheric conditions from a distance of five hundred feet from such vehicle shall be displayed on a hazard vehicle when such vehicle is engaged in a hazardous operation. such light or lights shall not be required to be displayed during daylight hours provided at least two red flags visible from a distance of five hundred feet are placed both in or on the front of and to or on the rear of the vehicle and two such flags are placed to each side of the vehicle open to traffic. such lights or flags need not be displayed on the vehicle when the vehicle is operating or parked within a barricaded work area and said lights or flags are displayed on the barricade. the provisions of this subdivision shall not prohibit the temporary affixing and display of an amber light to be used as a warning on a disabled motor vehicle or on a motor vehicle while it is stopped on a highway while engaged in an operation which would restrict impede or interfere with the normal flow of traffic.
From : christopher thompson
on wed 01 feb 2006 124013 -0800 don bruder dakidd@sonic.net wrote peter grey pgrey@earthlink.net wrote who knows what else he had done but it struck me that the cops take gratuitous use of a red light pretty seriously. ayup... if you aint a cop ambulance or fire truck and show red lights to the front youre effectively driving around with the equivalent of about a 40-by-40 foot billboard strapped to your roof that reads cmon cop! i dare ya! wassamatta too busy giving your k9 partner a bj - and youre likely to be dealt with accordingly... eh...depends. in wisconsin if youve got the lights and siren and if theyre both on you are an emergency vehicle by definition. those same lights in illinois might be a problem on or off. it varies by state at least. galls.com might have a guide to all that crap maybe. the question then becomes are you an authorzed emergency vehicle in valid emergency operation. i dont care where you are you cant run like your going to a call if your going after pizza even if your in the pumper. thus the reason for the emergency permit required in the state of georgia. -- -chris 05 ctd 99 durango .
From : ignoramus1729
on wed 1 feb 2006 122231 -0800 harold and susan vordos vordos@tds.net wrote on wed 1 feb 2006 102702 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. i have used strobes in plow trucks for years. red and clear in the back and clear in the front marker. but only while plowing. with them turned off i suppose they could be any color as long as they are not functioning or used off road or on private property. when you have them turned on is when the problem of color comes up. usually red or amber in the back and amber to the front is okay. take a look at what the tow trucks in you area use or call the dmv. thanks roy dt tbone christopher john. i will check with my dmv. i suppose that as long as i do not turn them on ishould not have a problem. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps. i have a half ton pickup also a dodge but the one ton truck bounces insanely. isuppose it is just due to strong springs. i yep! ive owned several pickups---ranging from half to one ton. the one ton trucks are sprung heavily to handle the load. youll be pleasantly surprised to find it rides quite nicely when you have it well loaded. thanks harold... it makes perfect sense. i .
From : dave hinz
on wed 1 feb 2006 162555 -0500 christopher thompson kf4drr@alltel.net wrote eh...depends. in wisconsin if youve got the lights and siren and if theyre both on you are an emergency vehicle by definition. the question then becomes are you an authorzed emergency vehicle in valid emergency operation. well of course. misuse of that sort of thing is well past bad idea well into you get what you deserve. i dont care where you are you cant run like your going to a call if your going after pizza even if your in the pumper. yup. new guys sometimes need to be reminded of that and the reasonable and prudent clause as well. its neither reasonable nor prudent for example to go 70 through town past the grade school lights & siren or no; pov or truck or ambo. after the first time or two they either mellow or they dont get to drive emergency vehicles. thus the reason for the emergency permit required in the state of georgia. here we need a letter from the chief if a pov is being used with lights/siren. .
From : clare at snyder on ca
on wed 01 feb 2006 083816 -0600 dthompson4389@spamwowway.com dt wrote ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid says... i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. im sure each state has its own regulations about lights. im in ohio and you can use yellow lights when you have an extended load instead of having a red flag on the end of the load. also when you are plowing snow. my son is a contractor and uses the light on his truck that way. in ontario it must be a blue flasher for snow - and only for snow. dennis .
From : christopher thompson
on wed 1 feb 2006 162555 -0500 christopher thompson kf4drr@alltel.net wrote eh...depends. in wisconsin if youve got the lights and siren and if theyre both on you are an emergency vehicle by definition. the question then becomes are you an authorzed emergency vehicle in valid emergency operation. well of course. misuse of that sort of thing is well past bad idea well into you get what you deserve. i dont care where you are you cant run like your going to a call if your going after pizza even if your in the pumper. yup. new guys sometimes need to be reminded of that and the reasonable and prudent clause as well. its neither reasonable nor prudent for example to go 70 through town past the grade school lights & siren or no; pov or truck or ambo. after the first time or two they either mellow or they dont get to drive emergency vehicles. thus the reason for the emergency permit required in the state of georgia. here we need a letter from the chief if a pov is being used with lights/siren. as well did we inorder to get the permit from the state. without that permit if the pd wanted to they could give you a ticket or worse weither the chief okd your use of lights/siren or not. .
From : christopher thompson
blue does not indicate pd there -- -chris 05 ctd 99 durango on wed 01 feb 2006 083816 -0600 dthompson4389@spamwowway.com dt wrote ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid says... i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. im sure each state has its own regulations about lights. im in ohio and you can use yellow lights when you have an extended load instead of having a red flag on the end of the load. also when you are plowing snow. my son is a contractor and uses the light on his truck that way. in ontario it must be a blue flasher for snow - and only for snow. dennis .
From : tbone
it may also have bad shocks. while the ride should be stiffer with a 1 ton i dont know about bouncy. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on wed 1 feb 2006 102702 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. i have used strobes in plow trucks for years. red and clear in the back and clear in the front marker. but only while plowing. with them turned off i suppose they could be any color as long as they are not functioning or used off road or on private property. when you have them turned on is when the problem of color comes up. usually red or amber in the back and amber to the front is okay. take a look at what the tow trucks in you area use or call the dmv. thanks roy dt tbone christopher john. i will check with my dmv. i suppose that as long as i do not turn them on ishould not have a problem. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps. i have a half ton pickup also a dodge but the one ton truck bounces insanely. isuppose it is just due to strong springs. i .
From : ignoramus1729
on wed 01 feb 2006 160403 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote it may also have bad shocks. while the ride should be stiffer with a 1 ton i dont know about bouncy. it is outright bouncy. i think that you have a good point about shocks. i .
From : peter grey
on wed 01 feb 2006 160403 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote it may also have bad shocks. while the ride should be stiffer with a 1 ton i dont know about bouncy. it is outright bouncy. i think that you have a good point about shocks. if you get one good hit when it hits the bump its the stiffer springs. if it continues to oscillate after hitting the bump then you have worn or inappropriate shocks. one ton pickups springs are - by my buttometer - a lot stiffer than half tons. peter .
From : ignoramus1729
on wed 01 feb 2006 161049 gmt peter grey pgrey@earthlink.net wrote on wed 01 feb 2006 160403 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote it may also have bad shocks. while the ride should be stiffer with a 1 ton i dont know about bouncy. it is outright bouncy. i think that you have a good point about shocks. if you get one good hit when it hits the bump its the stiffer springs. if it continues to oscillate after hitting the bump then you have worn or inappropriate shocks. i get one very good hit when the rear hits the bump. one ton pickups springs are - by my buttometer - a lot stiffer than half tons. by my buttometer as well. i guess that if a one ton load was in the bed the shock would be a lot milder. not that i want to try it i .
From : don bruder
tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote every state and municipality for that matter is or can be different and you need to check with them. a quick trip to the municipal building will answer your questions. since the municipality did not remove them it is probably not illegal for them to be there but i cant say what the usage rules if any might apply. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. 2 it is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot like on speedbumps and such. is it simply due to having strong suspension it is a 1 ton model or is something wrong with it thanks i *in general* a yellow flasher is kosher anywhere being considered nothing more or less than a hey! look out! theres a vehicle here that you might not otherwise notice warning. about half of the carriers at the paper i substitute-carry for use yellow strobes/flashers. some of them are more or less permanent installations like a county truck or similar others use the kojak-style bubble that mag-mounts to the roof and plugs into the cig. lighter then gets tossed in the back seat when not on the route. i have yet to hear of any of them catching even the slightest flack from anybody official about them despite paper carriers being highly likely to be stopped targets around here northern ca because they and drunks tend to be about the only source of boredom relief available for the cops between roughly 2 and 6 am. red blue or white flashers on the other hand are or are nearly universally reserved for cops firetrucks and ambulances and putting one on pretty much any other vehicle never mind being stupid enough to actually light it up in traffic... is usually a quick way to get a free overnight stay at least in the local greybar hotel. green seems to be in a grey area legally - some places dont care. other places will jump on you with both feet. check with the powers that be *where you are* for the answer thats right in your case. -- don bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - if your from address isnt on my whitelist or the subject of the message doesnt contain the exact text popperandshadow somewhere any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my ever knowing it arrived. sorry... http//www.sonic.net/dakidd for more info .
From : ignoramus1729
on wed 01 feb 2006 083035 -0800 don bruder dakidd@sonic.net wrote tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote every state and municipality for that matter is or can be different and you need to check with them. a quick trip to the municipal building will answer your questions. since the municipality did not remove them it is probably not illegal for them to be there but i cant say what the usage rules if any might apply. *in general* a yellow flasher is kosher anywhere being considered nothing more or less than a hey! look out! theres a vehicle here that you might not otherwise notice warning. about half of the carriers at the paper i substitute-carry for use yellow strobes/flashers. some of them are more or less permanent installations like a county truck or similar others use the kojak-style bubble that mag-mounts to the roof and plugs into the cig. lighter then gets tossed in the back seat when not on the route. i have yet to hear of any of them catching even the slightest flack from anybody official about them despite paper carriers being highly likely to be stopped targets around here northern ca because they and drunks tend to be about the only source of boredom relief available for the cops between roughly 2 and 6 am. red blue or white flashers on the other hand are or are nearly universally reserved for cops firetrucks and ambulances and putting one on pretty much any other vehicle never mind being stupid enough to actually light it up in traffic... is usually a quick way to get a free overnight stay at least in the local greybar hotel. green seems to be in a grey area legally - some places dont care. other places will jump on you with both feet. check with the powers that be *where you are* for the answer thats right in your case. thanks don. i will check. i can always say that i sometimes use my truck to accompany wide loads. i .
From : anthony
ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid wrote in by my buttometer as well. i guess that if a one ton load was in the bed the shock would be a lot milder. not that i want to try it i toss 4 bags of concrete mix in the bed it will ride a whole lot better. -- anthony you cant idiot proof anything....every time you try they just make better idiots. remove sp to reply via email .
From : Annonymous
in my location yellow is ok snow plow trucks and other utility vehicles have them. red and or blue are prohibited - restricted to authorised emergency vehicles. you need to check with police in your area as rules vary widely. .
From : eide
same in minnesota blue is for snow plows. on wed 01 feb 2006 083816 -0600 dthompson4389@spamwowway.com dt wrote ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid says... i bought this pickup last fall from a nearby municipality it has only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. they did not use it much. http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/dodge350.jpg 1 about yellow strobe lights. is it legal for a regular person to have these lights when they are turned off what about driving with them turned on i would presume that it is illegal. i am in il. im sure each state has its own regulations about lights. im in ohio and you can use yellow lights when you have an extended load instead of having a red flag on the end of the load. also when you are plowing snow. my son is a contractor and uses the light on his truck that way. in ontario it must be a blue flasher for snow - and only for snow. dennis .
From : ignoramus1729
on wed 01 feb 2006 231547 gmt anthony tonytn36sp@hotmail.com wrote ignoramus1729 ignoramus1729@nospam.1729.invalid wrote in by my buttometer as well. i guess that if a one ton load was in the bed the shock would be a lot milder. not that i want to try it i toss 4 bags of concrete mix in the bed it will ride a whole lot better. four bags is not that much i am surprised that you suggest that so little extra weight would help. not that i know anything. i -- .
From : clare at snyder on ca
on wed 1 feb 2006 165338 -0500 christopher thompson kf4drr@alltel.net wrote blue does not indicate pd there nope - coppers up here have red and white - just like fire and ambulance. voluteer firefighters have green. yellow or yellow and white are used on tow trucks wide loads school bus roofs and service vehicles of any sort parked in the roadway. blue is snow removal only and only while removong snow. dont be running down the road between jobs with the blade up and the flasher on! .
From : peter grey
if you get one good hit when it hits the bump its the stiffer springs. if it continues to oscillate after hitting the bump then you have worn or inappropriate shocks. i get one very good hit when the rear hits the bump. thats the nature of the beast then. you can try - within reason - lower tire pressures. thatll help some. peter .
From : rachel easson
ignoramus28190 wrote so if i go to napa i should ask for a white chromium primer right rach replied call ahead -- yes in the spray bomb -- you wont need much -- if they have it in flat or gloss get gloss -- most napa places have black and white chromium primer on hand but it isnt body season in il yet is it so they might not have much stock. if they dont know what you mean ill get you the part number. rach btw i love your truck -- great shape for a 86-89. let me know if you come across another one with a slant six 225 360 400 or 440 ny 4 year old loves it too it rides like a boat until it hits a speedbump. the truck is a 90 by the way. it has only 35 thousand miles on it. youre right. oops! grn ill bet he loves it! my own 1999 dodge ram truck http//igor.chudov.com/tmp/packing/clausing/dscf0027.jpg it is very pretty. i am partial however to older trucks because the new ones are over my head i had for the last 7 years already has twice more miles. i will eventually sell the 90 truck but so far i drive it wherever i can. i bought it at an auction. heres a video of the dodge 350 http//www.algebra.com/ichudov/spool/dodge350.avi ooh! fancy -- we have filmage -- very impressive.smile btw nothing wrong with those shocks thanks for the primer suggestions. no problem .