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From : budd cochran

Q: nosey wrote homer wrote one of my grease boots was busted by debris and my mechanic tells me that the only thing he can do is replace the tie rods to fix it. is he right pretty expensive for a busted rubber. no pun intended!! if its a small hole you could try using a bycicle inner-tube patch. the hardest part would be getting all of the grease off of the repair area. if it doesnt work you are only out $2 and a little time. ive tried repairing and patching boots. never worked for me. although ive heard of people doing it with good results. probably worth a shot. otoh i would take a close look at the boot and tie rod assembly. you can usually replace the boot without replacing the rod end. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

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From : miles

azwiley1 wrote technically toms 35% off. egad hes slipping. stay away from the light tom! i havent gone for the k&n hype. what is this cost reasoning of which you speak well geez 70 cents is almost a dollar which would make the hose price nearly 50% more than stated! can anyone trust someone nearly 50% off in what they say this is known as the k&n line of cost reasoning and we all know how that goes! its been awhile man why dont you refresh us! i just need to know which type of torque wrench is better for installing a k&n filter. .

From : miles

geekboy wrote geekboy wrote beleive me you filled up with ulsd. mandates require it be in all retail locations october 15 2006. in california by sept 1 2006. only place you still buy 500 ppm is outside california is for offroad marine and locomotive uses until june 1. unless you go to mexico where you can still buy yellow diesel. yellow because it has so much sulphur in it hah! let me get this straight we the u.s. have 800 ppm diesel and mexico has diesel that has so much sulfur in it that it is called yellow diesel no the us has 5 ppm diesel. the us used to sell high sulphur diesel until i think till the 80s that is why the pump handles were yellow but now green. notice the fuel containers are still yellow. did i miss something isnt mexico a member of the kyoto treaty isnt it ironic that we catch so much crap for not signing kyoto and yet we are stricter on ourselves than kyoto is on its own members. to quote mel brookes woof!!. just because they may be a member does not mean it takes effect imediatly or that the treaty called for reduction of sulphur in diesel. then i guess that begs the question even more what value is kyoto if we here in the u.s. a non-member control environmental minutia that kyoto apparently doesnt even address and that its members like mexico are way further behind in iow - why are we supposed to feel guilty for not signing when we apparently do better relying on our own integrity than signers are required to do by what they signed have you read the treaty no i havent. its actually was .05% sulphur content. not following you there. *what* was actually 0.05% sulphur content btw - 0.05% is the same as 500 ppm. not all areas have the high sulplur diesel. problem is its high sulfur content is unkind to turbochargers and electronic metered fuel circuits. they sell 500 ppm disel in most of mexico now. pemex is suppose to start making 5 ppm diesel later this year. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .

From : nosey

i use sylvania xtravision bulbs and headlight relays. very big improvement over factory equipment. the relays made the most noticable difference. i found daniel sterns blue headlight article interesting. where has he been anyway he hasnt posted anything here in a long time. ken i used some sylvania xtravision lights in my wifes 93 ramchager. remembering the 93 is old tech and uses the h 6054 lights. they were pretty good for a while but slowly ever so slowly got dimmer and dimmer. couldnt quite get a handle on what was wrong even had the charging system checked. finally took a long trip with a lot of night driving it was almost like being blind ran high beams all night got flashed once it was probably someone behind me cant remember. anyway got to our destination and im talking to my dad about it and he says bad ground gotta be it corrosion. naw we live in texas were not sure what corrosion is. so were sitting in the dining room looking at the front of several vehicles and it dawns on me the lights in the ram are dark all the cars lights are bright looking. ive got spare lights in the truck in case one goes out so i decide to replace them. i get them out im holding one in my hands looking down on it and realize almost all the silvering is gone i can see my hands through the light. they were both that way ive never seen silvering gone on a light except for junkyard excursions and only broken ones in really really old cars. ive never seen lights fail this way before. now im back to ge lights in the older rams. so if you got this far you must have as much time on your hands as i do today - sorry to be so long winded today. .

From : budd cochran

miles wrote xclimation wrote not to get too deep into this but the cost of drilling for oil and producing gas has gotten way cheaper than the 70s. there are more factors than i care to post but you do the research. sorry but its considerably more expensive now. the actual drilling itself isnt where the money goes. infrastructure costs of drilling have never been a big expense. do some research. i have to agree. thats pretty what ive read as well. its far more *risky* drilling/developing an oil field today than it was 30 years ago. smh .

From : azwiley1

on feb 4 1011 am miles n...@nopers.com wrote azwiley1 wrote ya know i starting thinking about how aadt used to be and started wondering what the hell happen to some people. lil jay - fliipped out and left wonder if he is still around somewhere lee - gary g. - sean in canada - nate - pops in sometimes but found a life prowler aka randy - i know he is still alive but has a lot going on in life how and i missing the way it used to be you mean the constant pissing contests theyre still here!! lol yeah but sometimes not as interesting. i think it is about time to resurrect the k&n and torque wrench debates but on the other hand those were times when budd was saine! .

From : stormin mormon

on feb 5 745 am roy r...@home.net wrote where is craig or was it another chris that seemed to be up on bio he struck me as having some decent info as well. im here. a good place to go for general information that has links to many different websites like the ones ken posted is http//www.biodiesel.org/ or http//www.biowillie.com/ the bd i have made has been purely for research purposes for school. i have not burned my own brew in my truck. i burn biowillie b20. there is a biowillie station down the road and it is not worth my time to brew my own batch. not to mention i only burn a tank every 3-4 months now since i ride the train to work and school. it sounds like ken has much more hands-on in regards to using home-brewed bd dodge trucks than i do. my research is purely a feasibility study and the effects of bd and other alternative fuels on the environment. many of my fellow students are burning the fuel that we have made with no problems. id be happy to help anyone with questions or guide you in the process of making bd. craig c. .

From : stormin mormon

max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote your entire article is filled with false statements. this is one specific example. anwr has *nothing* like the oil you claim! first there are *zero* proven reserves in anwr. *zero*. what we have is an educated guess produced by the usgs. well floyd what youve got is about 9 years old. i read in several newer and what ive got is the *only* such estimate. there are no others. you are making up statistics. sources online that the estimate was up beyond 22 billion barrels. clearly there is some debate since what youve provided isnt proof by your own admission but an estimate. *all* other debate is based on the usgs report that ive cited. the whole point of my comment was indeed that it is an estimate. there are *no* proven reserves. i will grant you that there are *dozens* of folks out there posting invalid references to the study that i cited. they read it wrong and give numbers that are stated to be not what the report says they are. your 22 billion barrels is estimated for what is called in-place oil which is an almost useless figure because it is oil that cannot be extracted at any cost. typically the next level of error is to cite technically recoverable oil which includes oil that would cost $2000 a barrel to produce. the next most common error is to cite the figures for all of northeastern alaska which are also provided in the same report. the bottom line is that the report says there might be about 7 billion barrels of economically recoverable oil if the price remains as high as it is. that figure is the only one of any value at all and as you admit is almost worthless because it is just an estimate. next if you read what i said rather than picking at exacting figures youd have figured out that im a proponant of biofuels. clearly my point is that the mass hysteria that snohead an now you isnt worth the time of day. those of us who realize the problems are working on a solution rather than running about like henny penny and exclaiming about the condition of the sky! you are citing fabricated data. i am hardly given to hysteria... i have the facts and a very good perspective on what they mean. you may have noticed that all of this applies to *my* backyard not yours. youll need to bring proof if you decide to post again. http//pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-0028-01/fs-0028-01.htm there you are just exactly what i gave you to start with. now its your turn sonny. cite some kind of proof. -- floyd l. davidson http//www.apaflo.com/floyddavidson ukpeagvik barrow alaska floyd@apaflo.com .

From : miles

thank you very much. i will take a look and see. but could you tell me is it on the right or left side drivers side .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote well thats nice to know; that you are ordered by your denomination to be bigoted . . . hey thats what im accused of doing!!! all religions are. but you still demand others have respect for you without any need for you to return the same. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote did you even bother to look at the links or is becoming a god too important to you your links are 100% biased and are thus subjective rather than objective. they tell you what you want to hear and nothing more. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote so why is the bible which is proven to be 99+% accurate rejected accurate most of the stories in the bible have never been proven as being truthful. your claim of accuracy is meaningless if the stories are all false. .

From : roy

denny wrote go bears!!!!!!!!!!!!! im on the bears wagon........that makes it sure to wreck.. denny i wont tell anyone whos fault it was. -- ken .

From : azwiley1

stormin mormon wrote http//www.freethoughtdebater.com/tenbiblecontradictions.htm contradictions the old testament has duplicate stories as told by different individuals. each has many contradictions from the others. budd will dispute this and show his cram website links. what he will show is his ass. which by the way is where his head is firmly stuck. .

From : stormin mormon

stormin mormon wrote http//www.freethoughtdebater.com/tenbiblecontradictions.htm contradictions the old testament has duplicate stories as told by different individuals. each has many contradictions from the others. budd will dispute this and show his cram website links. .

From : miles

bigot one entry found for bigot. main entry bigot pronunciation bi-g&t function noun etymology french hypocrite bigot a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially one who regards or treats the members of a group as a racial or ethnic group with hatred and intolerance that you budd no way cant be him he is always right! .

From : stormin mormon

has to splice into the backup light. i *have* determined that the backup light is not on the white and green wire; that would appear to be the turn signal. | well theres a white with dark green tracer which is the turn signal. theres also a white with light green tracer which is your backup lamp feed. for future reference http//www.dodge.com/bodybuilder has downloadable wiring diagrams for your truck. is it the black one- or is that ground black/dark green is the ground. while were at it white/yellow is your tail lamp and white/tan who in the hell came up with the color scheme for this way too many similar color combos is the stop lamp. this is all on the left drivers side taillight bucket. on the right passenger side bucket the only differences are the turn signal is white/gray and the ground is solid black. .

From : stormin mormon

http//www.freethoughtdebater.com/tenbiblecontradictions.htm contradictions 2 kings 826 says two and twenty years old was ahaziah when he began to reign... 2 chronicles 222 says forty and two years old was ahaziah when he began to reign... 2 samuel 623 says therefore michal the daughter of saul had no child unto the day of her death 2 samuel 218 says but the king took...the five sons of michal the daughter of saul 2 samuel 83-4 says david smote also hadadezer...and took from him...seven hundred horsemen... 1 chronicles 183-4 says david smote hadarezer...and took from him...seven thousand horsemen... 1 kings 426 says and solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots... 2 chronicles 925 says and solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots... 2 kings 258 says and in the fifth month on the seventh day of the month...nebuzaradan...came...unto jerusalem jeremiah 5212 says ...in the fifth month in the tenth day of the month...came nebuzaradan...into jerusalem 1 samuel 314-6 says ...saul took a sword and fell upon it. and when his armourbearer saw that saul was dead and...died with him. so saul died... 2 samuel 2112 says ...the philistines had slain saul in gilboa. gen 217 says but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of it for in the day thou eastest thereof thou shalt surely die note it doesnt say spiritual death gen 55 says and all the days that adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years and he died. matt 116 says and jacob begat joseph the husband of mary of whom was born jesus... luke 323 says and jesus...the son of joseph which was the son of heli james 113 says ..for god cannot be tempted with evil neither tempteth he any man. gen 221 says and it came to pass after these things that god did tempt abraham... gen 620 says of fowls after their kind and of cattle etc....two of every sort shall come unto thee... gen 723 says of every clean beast thou shall take to thee by sevens...of fowls also of the air by sevens... luke2346 and when jesus had cried with a loud voice he said father into thy hands i commend my spirit and having said thus he gave up the ghost. john 1930 when jesus therefore had received the vinegar he said it is finished and he bowed his head and gave up the ghost. gen 3230 states ...for i have seen god face to face and my life is preserved. john 118 states no man hath seen god at any time... factual errors 1 kings 723 he made a molten sea ten cubits from the one brim to the other it was round all about and his height was five cubits and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. circumference = pi x diameter which means the line would have to have been over 31 cubits. in order for this to be rounding it would have had to overstate the amount to ensure that the line did compass it round about. lev 1120-21 all fowls that creep going upon all four shall be an abomination unto you. fowl do not go upon all four. lev 116 and the hare because he cheweth the cud... hare do not chew the cud. deut 147 ...as the camel and the hare and the coney for they chew the cud but divide not the hoof. for the hare this is wrong on both counts hare dont chew the cud and they do divide the hoof. jonah 117 says ...jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights matt 1240 says ...jonas was three days and three nights in the whales belly... whales and fish are not related matt 1331-32 the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which.is the least of all seeds but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree. there are 2 significant errors here first there are many smaller seeds like the orchid seed; and second mustard plants dont grow into trees. matt 48 again the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them. unless the world is flat altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth. two minutes on google renders budd ineffective -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. no archaeological find not even the fossil record has proved the bible wrong. jesus was an historical figure as were the disciples jewish geneology traces his blood line back to abraham and adam so there must have been an adam. budd budd cochran wrote so why is the bible which is proven to be 99+% accurate rejected accurate most of the stories in the bible have never been proven as being truthful. your claim of accuracy is meaningless if the stories are all false. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : stormin mormon

how many people have converted as a result of your bashing can you introduce me to someone who says hey that budd. he was saying so much terrible things about my church i just decided i had to convert and go join his church. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. yep most of them are by ex-mormons very biased because they discovered the truth about that religion and full of researched facts like smiths polygamy the convictions for fortune telling the sending of new mormons out on mission so smith could have their wives . . . budd budd cochran wrote did you even bother to look at the links or is becoming a god too important to you your links are 100% biased and are thus subjective rather than objective. they tell you what you want to hear and nothing more. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : stormin mormon

bigot one entry found for bigot. main entry bigot pronunciation bi-g&t function noun etymology french hypocrite bigot a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially one who regards or treats the members of a group as a racial or ethnic group with hatred and intolerance that you budd -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. budd cochran wrote well thats nice to know; that you are ordered by your denomination to be bigoted . . . hey thats what im accused of doing!!! all religions are. but you still demand others have respect for you without any need for you to return the same. .

From : miles

on sun 4 feb 2007 122529 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote go bears!!!!!!!!!!!!! go harvick!!!!!! only 2 weeks away. beekeep greg you been following the stuff with dei and dale jr. its going to be really interesting to see how that all turns out. i can see jr. taking the number 1 spot at rcr! it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. if jr moves he will take bud with him. that will probably be the end of dei. .

From : miles

yeah the fourth range is od. in the nine years ive owned my 98 dakota 3.9l 2wd at i had never turned the od off. last week while pulling a fairly light trailer in a hilly area i decided to turn it off manual says to in order to cut down on the transmission hunting. when i turned it off i noticed that it stopped the shift to od but also into the fourth range. is that right is that what it is supposed to do .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote et tu ken looks like youve decided to end the discussion. so be it. budd why do you say that you asked a question on an open forum. i gave an answer. are you ending it because you dont like what i said -- ken up till this point you had not been antagonistic and quite the gentleman. instead of just bashing me without listening to what i was really saying you were trying hard to understand my points of view. or so i had believed. was i wrong to believe that budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

no archaeological find not even the fossil record has proved the bible wrong. jesus was an historical figure as were the disciples jewish geneology traces his blood line back to abraham and adam so there must have been an adam. budd budd cochran wrote so why is the bible which is proven to be 99+% accurate rejected accurate most of the stories in the bible have never been proven as being truthful. your claim of accuracy is meaningless if the stories are all false. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

congrats azwiley1 you managed to make this into another religious thread. really i did you need to learn to read budd not about 10 posts ago you accused t-bone of starting it and turning it into a religious based discussion! jackass. take the blame like a man. lets see here you want me to take blame for something that i am being accused of doing but you refuse to do the same for yourself. no i think ill continue to follow buddism which say i am never wrong. budd on feb 2 727 am budd cochran mr-d...@preciscom.net wrote no larry youre not k/fd. in the past ive done nothing more than he has done in this thread and been ripped for it time and time again. add to that that ive been warned by him and others about religious content in my threads and what will happen if i do. judge me by the same rules you use for others if you dare. budd lol you might ask questions but the problem with you is that once you come up with an answer it is the word of god even when you are wrong and proven so. more religious content from t-bone people. huge difference between you and him budd i am sure i am k/fd by you as i am by stormin moron because i am offensive tom is using the word god in part as an expresive statement you on the other hand ram it down everyones throat. if you want to play pkb at least do it in the correct context. -- posted via a free usenet account fromhttp//www.tera.com- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - budd i can not judge anyone as i do not hold the natural or super natural abilities to do so. however i know you have done nothing more then that is the past and i have never said anything to you about it. there is a huge difference for some one to make a statement such as oh god not again and a statement such as youre beliefs are wrong there for you are going to burn in hell had he said something like the later i would have said the same to him as has been said to you. no more no less you i doubt no correction i know you will not believe that. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

no i have not. i dont recall the last time i got a humor email from him either. anybody heard from him recently roy .

From : budd cochran

no i have not. i dont recall the last time i got a humor email from him either. just recieved a note from red. he heard from him off and on but nothing since mid dec. anybody heard from him recently roy .

From : roy

max - hows your puny 47re doing behind your cummins 6+ years and still going right 7 years and 85000 miles on the 47re behind my cummins and still going strong. -- ken .

From : roy

i got ya both beat. listen up storming mormon i live in logan utah. last night it hit a low of -11. i just walked my dog tonight in -14. ya know its cold when your nose seals itself shut when you breath in. .

From : budd cochran

btw ken it was this link by you that brought the religious content into this thread. budd budd cochran wrote since you disagree http//www.fox.com/story/0293324211700.html enjoy! budd and a related story for budd http//www.fox.com/story/0293324129800.html ;^ -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

tbone wrote this is a group miles not a chat room but otherwise i think that the rest of the group is in complete agreement with you. same difference!! i go back a long ways with online forums. fidonet used the term chat echos instead of groups. guess i got so used to that term! .

From : budd cochranmiles

budd cochran wrote the new testament is backed by historical records as well as one important thing the disciples all were killed because of believing in what jesus taught. copies of texts have the same type of errors grammatical only. oh please budd. scholars do not even know the complete origins of either the new or old testements. .

From : budd cochran

yea - but the year is wrong on the copyright still says 2006 2007 josh. publication in any form is highly encouraged gee... sound so copyrighted! .

From : stormin mormon

on sun 28 jan 2007 173640 -0500 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote azwileys crude language is offensive to me. well shit thats too bad. sorry about that man. .

From : stormin mormon

i have an 02 dodge dakota with bad wheel bearings. i see that this is a non servicable hub. does anyone have the page of the manual of how to get this hub off and replaced i see there looks to be two pins that are allens to take caliper off and what looks like one large nut holding on the rotor is that all there is any help would be greatful.. thanx .

From : budd cochran

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From : azwiley1

on jan 29 437 pm paulnhoutx paulnho...@yahoo.com wrote thank you tom. tom tom hes your man if he cant help you snoman can! vbg .

From : budd cochran

ever since the gear went in my odometer my mpg has really gotten bad. any ideas beekeep the bees arent pulling their weight .

From : stormin mormon

http//scriptures.lds.org/john/21/16#16 according to the mormon scriptures jesus said feed my sheep. this was the teaching of the gospel. guess some of the pastors from your place arent doing what the mormon jesus teaches -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. i have some difficulty with pastors that only preach the salvation message hellfire brimstone and damnation even when they know there isnt anyone unsaved in the audience but never teach what the bible says. for years this was common among the southern baptists for example but in the past few years more pastors are teaching the word before leading into the invitation. .

From : azwiley1

holy shit batman! look what the cat threw up! .

From : miles

tbone wrote not exactly a valid sample of the american population. either is the so called mainstream america which is only liberals. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote like i said before dude where have you been hiding do you really think that is matters at all to chucky if you might actually know something or know more than he does there are quite a few christians here. .

From : miles

juvenile name calling tom pkb. your english skills appear a bit lacking budd... i said you were playing a juvenile game - i didnt call you a juvenile. .

From : azwiley1

on sat 27 jan 2007 090106 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on fri 26 jan 2007 192611 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote on jan 26 246 pm hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote on thu 25 jan 2007 234700 -0500 tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote it is either the speed sensor in the rear axle or the wiring going to it. in most cases it is the sensor.or maybe its just the quality you get when you buy an american made vehicle anymore. they cant even figure out why they are going belly up. how many billion did ford lose the past year beekeep at least 13 billion. but ford leads fullsize truck sales... that said american auto makers seriously need to take notes on the korean and japanese companies. the quality of american cars is such garbage compared to overseas stuff...i dont get it theyve been watching their numbers slip for so long now and have had a good model hyundai toyota honda etc etc to emulate for a while now... the perception is that the quality of american cars is garbage but the reality is quite different im afraid. in the most recent figures ive seen the warranty expense pnvs is virtually the same vis a vis the japs vs american cars. toyota is the acknowledged leader but even they have slipped a couple of percentage points in recent years. in our company we have daimlerchrysler nissan gm mitsubishi kia aston-martin and jaguar and nissan has a higher warranty expense pnvs than any of the others with the exception of jaguar. daimlerchrysler btw is the lowest. contrary to popular belief the domestic manufacturers have made huge strides in quality. mike perception is what sells cars. i just bought a vehicle for my wife. went to a dodge/jeep dealer and bought a nissan quest. i point blank told the salesman that i didnt want a caravan regardless of price. i honestly believe that the japanese have tighter tolerences when it comes to manufacturing aluminum block engines and transmissions. now you may call that perception but i call it experience. she got 190k of trouble free miles from her last quest and i have a 6th transmission in in my dodge truck. my next truck will probably be a toyota. dodge trucks did not winn a single race in the cts last year and toyota dominated. toyota joins the cup series this year and im betting that they will win races this year. that my friend is perception being made. that is bs and you know it! pray tell what does any race car and production car have in common other than the name its the perception that they have the engineering ability to get the job done plain and simple. and if they are willing to put that much money into r&d for a race car then what are they willing to spend on r&d for their everyday ride back that up with gm droping its goodwrench sponsership making them look like there going belly up. well it looks like we are about to find out now arent we roy beekeep .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote which god would be the best one to follow one that has a beginning or an end not eternal nor having all the tributes of a true god or a god from everlasting to everlasting all the tributes of a true god so you define what is true or not true. so do others with their particular faith just as strong as you. .

From : azwiley1

now that i ponder this a bit it comes to me that perhaps after a winter full of him telling you how to plow snow you and he will become real close. so far he hasnt given me any type of plow advise. i almost wish he would just so we could add another chapter to the book. was it this group or the chevy group where he was giving tire recommendations for plowing that was some good reading also. actually you are about neighbors arent ya relativly speaking...maybe. hes about a hour/hour and a half south of me. that makes him more of a neighbor that say you or red but hes still well out of rifle range. could be a sequel to brokeback mountain perhaps bent over the snowplow!! one of us would leave a better man just cant decide who..... bg denny gbmfg roy .

From : budd cochran

snoman wrote on fri 26 jan 2007 095703 -0500 chris thompson kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net wrote then why does the engineers that write the fsm call it a cat come on man! because it is a accepted term. you find mis-use of semi-technical terms a lot in stuff published for the masses. two examples that come to mind certainly there are others 1 the engine coolant outlet housing on the chrysler lh vehicles is exactly where traditionally the thermostat is on most engines but the thermostat on the lhs is on the inlet side of the engine located low on the block on the drivers side. but people are alwyas referring to the outlest housing as the thermostat housing - even the chrysler fsm erroneously refers to it as the thermostat housing in at least two places. 2 the cushioning devices used in valve trains were traditionally in line with the valve stem actuation typicaly push rods - and were called valve lifters. now more often than not they are on the opposite side of a rocker - not directly in series with the valve actuation and they are more accurately referred to as valve lash adjusters. yet on the street and on car forums and even among highly qualified mechanics - no doubt even in technical articles they will be incorrectly referred to as valve lifters. so though i have no horse in this race i can buy snomans argument that even the technical gurus may refer to something that technically is not a catalytic converter as a catalyitc converter. all that means is you cant believe everything you read - even by the experts - if youre doing so with an eye for technical accuracy. ...you will see diesel ratings decline in coming years and economy suffer too as regs kick in because allow with exoitic injection systems to limit nox they will also lower cr and boost to reduce nox generation to begin with. thye will either have to get bigger more displacment for same power with less boost or see ratings fade. diesel have had a unfair edge in emissions for many years and loop hole is finially closing and long overdue. so - if you have to get a bigger engine to recover the power lost to improved emissions will there in fact be no net gain in the emissions iow - you can fool yourself with percentages if you turn a blind eye to the total *quantity* of emissions if youre using bigger engines to make up for lost power in meeting the new regs. i.e. unintnded consequences or pretended ignorance by those who may understand this but dont want to bring this to the publics attention which wouldnt matter anyway due to its short attention span and inability to ever peel more than two layers off the onion on any given subject. -- bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .

From : tbone

on fri 26 jan 2007 192611 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote on jan 26 246 pm hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote on thu 25 jan 2007 234700 -0500 tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote it is either the speed sensor in the rear axle or the wiring going to it. in most cases it is the sensor.or maybe its just the quality you get when you buy an american made vehicle anymore. they cant even figure out why they are going belly up. how many billion did ford lose the past year beekeep at least 13 billion. but ford leads fullsize truck sales... that said american auto makers seriously need to take notes on the korean and japanese companies. the quality of american cars is such garbage compared to overseas stuff...i dont get it theyve been watching their numbers slip for so long now and have had a good model hyundai toyota honda etc etc to emulate for a while now... the perception is that the quality of american cars is garbage but the reality is quite different im afraid. in the most recent figures ive seen the warranty expense pnvs is virtually the same vis a vis the japs vs american cars. toyota is the acknowledged leader but even they have slipped a couple of percentage points in recent years. in our company we have daimlerchrysler nissan gm mitsubishi kia aston-martin and jaguar and nissan has a higher warranty expense pnvs than any of the others with the exception of jaguar. daimlerchrysler btw is the lowest. contrary to popular belief the domestic manufacturers have made huge strides in quality. mike perception is what sells cars. i just bought a vehicle for my wife. went to a dodge/jeep dealer and bought a nissan quest. i point blank told the salesman that i didnt want a caravan regardless of price. i honestly believe that the japanese have tighter tolerences when it comes to manufacturing aluminum block engines and transmissions. now you may call that perception but i call it experience. she got 190k of trouble free miles from her last quest and i have a 6th transmission in in my dodge truck. my next truck will probably be a toyota. dodge trucks did not winn a single race in the cts last year and toyota dominated. toyota joins the cup series this year and im betting that they will win races this year. that my friend is perception being made. that is bs and you know it! pray tell what does any race car and production car have in common other than the name not a damn thing and yet greg is 100% correct. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : chris thompson

ed h. wrote before you buy one ill send you one free as a small thanks to your husbands service to our country. if you live within a one way 12 hour drive of the central coast of california ill drive there with the tools neccesary to install it. i only ask that you let me park in your driveway or on the street for the night. reply to my email address if i can help edo.hart@verizon.net. god bless you and your husband! you guys seem to know a lot more about this stuff than i ever will. would it be better for me to take it to the dealor or my garage guy your guidance is greatly appreciated! i hate to take it somewhere just to get taken to the cleaners because i am a woman. tom lawrence wrote or trade it. i know this sounds cruel but dodges can be a pill about thess kinds of problems sometimes. you are such a moron.... trade away a truck because a $30 sensor went bad that takes 5 minutes to change. -- posted at authors request using http//www.autoboardz.com interface articles individually verified to usenet standards. visit url to contact author/report abuse thread archive http//www.autoboardz.com/1999-1500-lots-problems-ftopict204552.html ed thats a wonderful offer. i wish more people would show their appreciation like you do. if the op is in the dfw area i will fix the truck for her also. bob .

From : budd cochran

out of curiosity so answer me this. why is the spirit of the lord nice and clear when im reading church materials but i get confusion anger and ugly reactions when im reading anti-mormon crap like that have you felt the negative feelings with my posts discussing the scripture and god or have you felt as though its confirmed your truth isnt confirmed by the spirit. sorry mate. how about mine -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : budd cochran

and if my beliefs tell me that all others are wrong then what should i follow my beliefs or knuckle under to your beliefs budd budd cochran wrote you want me to accept other beliefs but are unwilling to accept they could be wrong who did you say was close minded look in a mirror. that would be you. any views that do not agree with your own are wrong by default. you fail to accept the fact that your views could be wrong. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

i was low on blinker fluid a couple days ago. turns out auto zone had 12 ounces for 4.99 which is a really good price. it was in the same aisle with sky hooks red lantern oil and a bucket of steam. oh and they had snipe scent air freshener. i had to go to home depot for left handed crescent wrenches though. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. i dindt deal with them anymore after the service manager became exceedingly condescending to me over the phone. i let my husband deal with the ass. as i said before i am not mechanincally inclined but i do have basic working knowledge. at least this guy didnt try to get me to pay for blinker fluid like the guy from the lube place did. you dont change your blinker fluid regularly thats just good pm like changing hoses and belts at regular intervals. whens lhe last time you changed the hubcap gaskets beekeep .

From : stormin mormon

on 25 jan 2007 203559 -0800 yabahoobs chendrikson@gmail.com wrote regardless electrical issues are pretty tough to deal with. probably best to take it to your local dodge dealership. or trade it. i know this sounds cruel but dodges can be a pill about thess kinds of problems sometimes. each brand has its quirks and dodge seems to have more than its fair sure of these kind when they get older sometimes. it will not be cheap to trouble shoot and repair at a dealer so hold on to your checkbook. ----------------- thestupidanswerman.com where do i start you are such a asshole! there is no other way to say it. it is what it is. you just blow me away! as old as i am with the tons of people i know and work with you by far have to be one of if not the most stupid people i have come across. not ignorant friggin stupid! i suppose for one with such limited knowledge as you have shown in this and other groups/forums trading the truck would be the only thing left for you to do. surely youd never be able to fix it. ive one question no it is not about the v10. really be truthful are you able to feed yourself shut up rabbit. hey rabbit! when you and i get together in a few months maybe we can check out this fool. hes just down the road from ya. hell he should be easy to find. there has to be a huge sign in front of his house that says stupid lives here! youll be coming by his place as you come north. you can stop and bond a bit. maybe even go out for dinner so i dont have to feed you so much.. denny now that i ponder this a bit it comes to me that perhaps after a winter full of him telling you how to plow snow you and he will become real close. actually you are about neighbors arent ya could be a sequel to brokeback mountain perhaps bent over the snowplow!! gbmfg roy .

From : miles

on fri 26 jan 2007 192611 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote on jan 26 246 pm hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote on thu 25 jan 2007 234700 -0500 tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote it is either the speed sensor in the rear axle or the wiring going to it. in most cases it is the sensor.or maybe its just the quality you get when you buy an american made vehicle anymore. they cant even figure out why they are going belly up. how many billion did ford lose the past year beekeep at least 13 billion. but ford leads fullsize truck sales... that said american auto makers seriously need to take notes on the korean and japanese companies. the quality of american cars is such garbage compared to overseas stuff...i dont get it theyve been watching their numbers slip for so long now and have had a good model hyundai toyota honda etc etc to emulate for a while now... the perception is that the quality of american cars is garbage but the reality is quite different im afraid. in the most recent figures ive seen the warranty expense pnvs is virtually the same vis a vis the japs vs american cars. toyota is the acknowledged leader but even they have slipped a couple of percentage points in recent years. in our company we have daimlerchrysler nissan gm mitsubishi kia aston-martin and jaguar and nissan has a higher warranty expense pnvs than any of the others with the exception of jaguar. daimlerchrysler btw is the lowest. contrary to popular belief the domestic manufacturers have made huge strides in quality. mike perception is what sells cars. i just bought a vehicle for my wife. went to a dodge/jeep dealer and bought a nissan quest. i point blank told the salesman that i didnt want a caravan regardless of price. i honestly believe that the japanese have tighter tolerences when it comes to manufacturing aluminum block engines and transmissions. now you may call that perception but i call it experience. she got 190k of trouble free miles from her last quest and i have a 6th transmission in in my dodge truck. my next truck will probably be a toyota. dodge trucks did not winn a single race in the cts last year and toyota dominated. toyota joins the cup series this year and im betting that they will win races this year. that my friend is perception being made. beekeep .

From : miles

fact and fiction in the same sentence....sheesh! oh by the way as a side note i was cleaning the tool box out the other day and found what was left of a 2.7l knock sensor i remember this engine specifically. it was a intrepid gray in color i believe that the people driving it brought to us on a wrecker. aparently they drove it till it stopped repeatedly melted the knock sensor off the block the heads were so warped that you didnt even have to use the straight edge to see it. that was without a doubt the best job of overheating one ive ever seen anyone do. since i found that little peice dont know why it got stuck in the back of the box but it did and i recently found it i thought you might enjoy the story. yeah its amazing how people can abuse their vehicles! that reminded me of the time i discovered just how far a 5.2l grand cherokee can go on the factory fill of oil. iirc its about 24k miles... what a waste! mike -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. snoman its not what you know that hurts you its what you think you know that aint so is what gets you in trouble. on the 04 dr with cummins eto refer to p/n 52018191ac see your dodge dealer for help on this this part is a catalytic converter.... end of story. mike now mike! you know that part number cant exist! snoman says theres no catalyst on a diesel. *big grin* it sure does exist!! its right there in the parts book... next to the v-10 knock sensors. ;^ mike -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote they dont believe what jesus said or did the word christian means to be christ like to follow every word to accept every act every sacrifice as is. that they do yet they differ on many views you and others have. people are individuals and develop their own beliefs independently and come to varying conclusions based on the same input. miles youre twisting definitions just like a liberal. joyful means full of joy happy. and its you thats making the noise because you are happy. for some christian rock is sinful and for others its joyful. what is and isnt a sin is not completely defined in the bible. its subjective to ones own perception and beliefs. i jusrt told you to believe what you want. now explain why its so important that i believe as you same reason its so important everyone believes as you. .

From : azwiley1

azwiley1 wrote budd as a one time friend i am truly sorry to see you and your mind turn into what ever has befallen it. you were never this out there before and there is no way that religion did this to you. something bad has happen to you either medically or personally but i hope at some point you find peace. he thinks its his religion were all against so he turns against us thinking thats what hes supposed to do. theres a better way but he hasnt found it yet. .

From : azwiley1

| on fri 26 jan 2007 112928 -0500 nursetracy | noonespecial@nospam.hotmail.com wrote | | i paid the price to get my truck back. the only thing i didnt pay for was | the towing fee $181 for a whole 12 miles. i dindt deal with them | anymore after the service manager became exceedingly condescending to me | over the phone. i let my husband deal with the ass. as i said before i | am not mechanincally inclined but i do have basic working knowledge. at | least this guy didnt try to get me to pay for blinker fluid like the | guy from the lube place did. | | you dont change your blinker fluid regularly thats just good pm like | changing hoses and belts at regular intervals. whens lhe last time you changed | the hubcap gaskets | | beekeep | | and let us not forget to change the air in the tires when they are rotated... pcolaphil to reply remove spamnot. you and i are friends....... you fight i fight........ you hurt i hurt........ you cry i cry......... you jump off a bridge.... im gonna miss your dumb ass!!!! .

From : budd cochran

before you buy one ill send you one free as a small thanks to your husbands service to our country. if you live within a one way 12 hour drive of the central coast of california ill drive there with the tools neccesary to install it. i only ask that you let me park in your driveway or on the street for the night. reply to my email address if i can help edo.hart@verizon.net. god bless you and your husband! you guys seem to know a lot more about this stuff than i ever will. would it be better for me to take it to the dealor or my garage guy your guidance is greatly appreciated! i hate to take it somewhere just to get taken to the cleaners because i am a woman. tom lawrence wrote or trade it. i know this sounds cruel but dodges can be a pill about thess kinds of problems sometimes. you are such a moron.... trade away a truck because a $30 sensor went bad that takes 5 minutes to change. -- posted at authors request using http//www.autoboardz.com interface articles individually verified to usenet standards. visit url to contact author/report abuse thread archive http//www.autoboardz.com/1999-1500-lots-problems-ftopict204552.html .

From : roy

and nissan has a higher warranty expense pnvs than any of the others with the exception of jaguar. daimlerchrysler btw is the lowest. contrary to popular belief the domestic manufacturers have made huge strides in quality. sigh facts figures and more facts.... thats all youre ever good for... cant you for once go with rumor innuendo and general bullshit sheesh.... ^ .

From : Annonymous

larry once friend now . . . . im sorry you feel this way and sorrier that you cannot no will not see the truth. you are in gods hands by your own words and choice. i leave you to him to deal with. tell me one thing if my physicians whom i see regularly see no need for me to go to psychiatrists ive said it a number of times. show dont discuss or talk about show your doc what you have posted here in various threads. they will drive you to see a psychiatrist. who the heck are you to think i need one hint no one at all by your decision to no longer be a friend. so as far as im concerned you go your way ill go gods way. now theres a offer nobody should refuse! .

From : budd cochran

on jan 26 246 pm hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote on thu 25 jan 2007 234700 -0500 tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote it is either the speed sensor in the rear axle or the wiring going to it. in most cases it is the sensor.or maybe its just the quality you get when you buy an american made vehicle anymore. they cant even figure out why they are going belly up. how many billion did ford lose the past year beekeep at least 13 billion. but ford leads fullsize truck sales... that said american auto makers seriously need to take notes on the korean and japanese companies. the quality of american cars is such garbage compared to overseas stuff...i dont get it theyve been watching their numbers slip for so long now and have had a good model hyundai toyota honda etc etc to emulate for a while now... the perception is that the quality of american cars is garbage but the reality is quite different im afraid. in the most recent figures ive seen the warranty expense pnvs is virtually the same vis a vis the japs vs american cars. toyota is the acknowledged leader but even they have slipped a couple of percentage points in recent years. in our company we have daimlerchrysler nissan gm mitsubishi kia aston-martin and jaguar and nissan has a higher warranty expense pnvs than any of the others with the exception of jaguar. daimlerchrysler btw is the lowest. contrary to popular belief the domestic manufacturers have made huge strides in quality. mike .

From : Annonymous

i dont recall my church teaching christians to separate themselves from non-believers but maybe i just wasnt paying attention that day. remember the verse that says to not be conformed to this world romans 122 it means we are not to be like everyone else in the world but to be obviously different. i read that verse to mean that christians are supposed to resist herd behavior not to separate themselves from non-believers. believe what you want just my point of view. sometimes you have to separate from non-believers just to catch a breath like ive done a few times here in the group. but you are right also that we are not to follow the crowd which can also include those that dont believe the word as it is written that teach a different jesus lds church that deny aspects of christs diety sacrifice resurrection; that teach evolution sin tolerance etc. do you believe its possible that the god of another religion might be the same god that you believe in in other words your god and their god is the same entity but the followers of each religion have different beliefs about him. the gods of most other religions of the world are not the god of abraham but rather man-made dieties with all the foibles of man like zeus having lust for human women or thors drunkeness and demanding sacrifices subjigation etc. to pacify them in a hope of an afterlife. jhvh otoh just wants our sins to be forgiven and for us to live better lives. only one god ever died to help man become a better being jesus. only one rose from the dead recorded in historical records to bring you a hope for a better life after your own physical death jesus. is that different enough bg i think you missed my point. i dont mean every other religions god just the /possibility/ of one or more religion. an example would be vishnu. vishnu is very much like your god. is it possible that vishnu created the universe and that is what is written about in the tanakh not according to the bible but then it is my choice to believe the bible and promote its teachings not vishnu who had a beginning and is not like jhvh in that respect a most important respect. i have to choose just as everyone does to believe in a god or not to believe in the god of abraham or using your example vishnu or some other god or not. i believe in bible ken without reservation because i have studied and compared it for myself to other beliefs and it is the most logical book of holy writings about the being most likely to be the true living god of all that exists. i never completely understood the free will choice thing. well its like deciding between any two or more things. freewill allows us to be the final authority as to where we spend eternity in either heaven or hell. for example before i found christ i wanted to spend all my time doing things that could easily have got me shot or in jail. id been thru a very nasty divorce with attempts made on my life and i was ticked at the world. i figured i had nothing to lose nothing to live for. now i just want help others and be a good citizen husband and father. and its all because i chose to be a follower of christ instead of continuing to follow the world and satan. it turned me around 180 degrees. ------ god created all that is the universe and its physical laws all living things and it was all perfect until man fell from grace by his own freewill choice. ------ how could a perfect man make the wrong freewill choice have you ever been sold a used car that did not live up to claims if a man could convince you that the car was good how much easier could an angel satan is the fallen angel lucifer convince a newborn woman she was only days old according to some theologians of something read the passage as if satan is a used car salesman trying to convince you that the fruit is exactly what eve needs and that god held back something instead of giving full disclosure. if he was perfect he would have had perfect judgement. if he didnt have perfect judgement was that a flaw in gods design if it wasnt a design error why did god intentionally create man knowing he would fail that always confused me. the flaw came about not because of gods mistake but because an angel satan again decided he would make himself a god to adam and eve and he lied to convince eve to eat the fruit. then eve convinced adam to take a bite. they could have decided to obey god instead of taking the bites but they didnt because they believed satans lies. think back to when you were a kid and one of your friends convinced you to do something that could get you into trouble and did . . sound familiar now just make the scene one where you convinced another kid to join you but the guy that enticed you left before you all got caught. thats what satan did in the garden but he forgot god knows all things and the serpent was cursed to crawl on the ground. you are saying

From : budd cochran

on fri 26 jan 2007 095703 -0500 chris thompson kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net wrote then why does the engineers that write the fsm call it a cat come on man! because it is a accepted term. a cat has rare elements in it the reacts with hot gas to convert the emissions passing thru it. these same elements are destroyed quickly by high sulpher in fuel. a thermo reactor helps burn and lower the suspended particulates that diesels are famous for and are aways present. why do you think the epa ordered sulpher out it was so they could start putting true cats on oil burners and fully address the very high nox and true grams per mile emissons that they produce. one diesel makes as much nox as about 5 to 10 cars in grams per mile the reason diesels appear clean is because they have a high volume of air flowing thru them which dilutes emissions and makes ppm low when actually grams per mile is high. gas engines have a much lower air flow thru them and at same ppm emit far less grams per mile than a diesel. diesels are finally going to have to comply fully with emission requirements like gas engines have been for over 30 years now. you will see diesel ratings decline in coming years and economy suffer too as regs kick in because allow with exoitic injection systems to limit nox they will also lower cr and boost to reduce nox generation to begin with. thye will either have to get bigger more displacment for same power with less boost or see ratings fade. diesel have had a unfair edge in emissions for many years and loop hole is finially closing and long overdue. ----------------- thesnoman.com snoman its not what you know that hurts you its what you think you know that aint so is what gets you in trouble. on the 04 dr with cummins eto refer to p/n 52018191ac see your dodge dealer for help on this this part is a catalytic converter.... end of story. mike .

From : budd cochran

larry once friend now . . . . im sorry you feel this way and sorrier that you cannot no will not see the truth. you are in gods hands by your own words and choice. i leave you to him to deal with. tell me one thing if my physicians whom i see regularly see no need for me to go to psychiatrists who the heck are you to think i need one hint no one at all by your decision to no longer be a friend. so as far as im concerned you go your way ill go gods way. budd miles i am sorry i asked him anything trying to get a little understanding on how someone even him can discount everything historical. any normal person would not discount historical data writings and fact but i honestly dont think budd is within full faculty any more. i think it would be best to follow suit of roy t-bone and others to just let him piss in the wind and watch it blow on his leg. budd as a one time friend i am truly sorry to see you and your mind turn into what ever has befallen it. you were never this out there before and there is no way that religion did this to you. something bad has happen to you either medically or personally but i hope at some point you find peace. as for me discussing debating and arguing with you over any subject is done. you are worse then a horse pulling a cart with blinders on only difference is that they cant see other then forward you refuse to see anything other then forward. budd cochran wrote back to that again are you jesus said it im just repeating it. or is that beyond your abilities yep but i know other christians who feel just as strong about their beliefs yet they differ from yours. you cant accept that. they however can. so he gave us a conscience gave us the ten commandments to teach the basics and told us to do what would be right in the eyes of god. 10 items. not a big list! psalm 661 make a joyful noise unto the lord all ye lands. its also the excuse i use when i sing in church. joyful is subjective to ones own perception. whats joyful to one may not be to another. that does not make it a sin. where in the bible does it define joyful noise to mean soft harps playing constantly hey if you want to follow a man-made god so be it. if you want to follow the god of abraham so be it. its your choice. how do you know one writing is man-made yet another is not its your belief and choice. during the times of the egyptian gods the bible did not exist. their writings were all that was. there was no other teachers of any other religion for 1000s of years. why not so you load a question to cause trouble miles cause trouble by asking a question for which you cant answer and thus dismiss -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote back to that again are you jesus said it im just repeating it. or is that beyond your abilities yep but i know other christians who feel just as strong about their beliefs yet they differ from yours. you cant accept that. they however can. they dont believe what jesus said or did the word christian means to be christ like to follow every word to accept every act every sacrifice as is. so he gave us a conscience gave us the ten commandments to teach the basics and told us to do what would be right in the eyes of god. 10 items. not a big list! but it contains all the basics needed like no other gods are to be worshipped. thou shalt have no other gods before me.. psalm 661 make a joyful noise unto the lord all ye lands. its also the excuse i use when i sing in church. joyful is subjective to ones own perception. whats joyful to one may not be to another. that does not make it a sin. where in the bible does it define joyful noise to mean soft harps playing constantly miles youre twisting definitions just like a liberal. joyful means full of joy happy. and its you thats making the noise because you are happy. why make the simple difficult why strain on an gnat and swallow a camel jesus said that about the pharisees and their tendencies to complicate the simple things. today we call that kind in government bureaucrats. hey if you want to follow a man-made god so be it. if you want to follow the god of abraham so be it. its your choice. how do you know one writing is man-made yet another is not its your belief and choice. during the times of the egyptian gods the bible did not exist. their writings were all that was. there was no other teachers of any other religion for 1000s of years. why not i jusrt told you to believe what you want. now explain why its so important that i believe as you so you load a question to cause trouble miles cause trouble by asking a question for which you cant answer and thus dismiss i gave the answer as found in the scriptures and you rejected it. fine. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote i said their dieties their gods cannot be older. and being an older religion is not a guarantee of being the correct religion. nor does it make it the wrong religion. which god would be the best one to follow one that has a beginning or an end not eternal nor having all the tributes of a true god or a god from everlasting to everlasting all the tributes of a true god only one god has all the characteristics of a true god jhvh the god of israel. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : stormin mormon

under the circumstances they should make a good will arrangement with her. if you cant get free labor a huge honkin discount should be made but thats just me. penny wise pound foolish seems to rule business anymore. failing that she should at least post the name and address of this shop. im sure a few of us could take it from there. roy .

From : nosey

and also not current dodge sold today as it is equipped meets nox emissons for 2008 as they will have more equipment added to them in 08 you are so full of shit... the new 6.7l diesel now being sold is compliant with 2010 emissions regulations http//www.cummins.com/cmi/content.jspsiteid=1&langid=1033&dataid=1136&info=true&menuid=4 .

From : azwiley1

good point...ive learned this the hardway. .

From : azwiley1

it vibrates at a constant speedand stops when i let go of the gasbut it doesnt do it when i rev it in neutralalso the tires are bad .

From : azwiley1

some of those other gods existed for far longer. impossible. in the book of the revelations of st john jesus says thru john that he is the alpha and the omega the beginning and the end. jesus told the pharisees before abraham was i am. god is was and will be eternal. budd this is not meant to stir any arguments but i have to ask how you can say this is impossible. you and i have talked before and at that time you admitted to the fact that there are religions that are considerable older then christianity. now your story changes. not with standing your beliefs simply acknowledging something to be fact as derived from history does not make you a sinner nor does it mean you worship something else it honestly means that you are not so blinded and jaded as to not ever see beyond your nose. buddhism not to be confused with buddism hinduism daoism sp even muslim iirc are historically older then christianity. .

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote you tend to want all to conform to your beliefs. jesus said there was but one way to heaven by his sacrifice on the cross. yes he said so not you. yet you want everyone to believe your way. some people would rather believe his way which may or may not be the same as your views. you will never get all christians to believe your way just as you will always refuse to follow others with differing views. that because we are all individuals who view things from their own eyes. back to that again are you jesus said it im just repeating it. or is that beyond your abilities being different does not mean you need to isolate yourself from others. youve never heard of hermits yes but i dont think one needs to be a hermit to be a christian. isolation is not a good thing for most. who said to isolate from the world i said to not follow the sins of the world like drunkeness lust envy pride greed profanity murderous thoughts etc. that is christian separation from the world. then go live on a fucking rock. jesus! you wouldnt be here if that were the case! i can be around sin and sinful people i am not to join in or take sinful pleasure from it. the bible does not make a complete list of every single activity that may or may not be a sin. so he gave us a conscience gave us the ten commandments to teach the basics and told us to do what would be right in the eyes of god. it is man who has decided what is or isnt and people do not always agree. for instance many people feel christian rock music is a sin others dont. psalm 661 make a joyful noise unto the lord all ye lands. its also the excuse i use when i sing in church. because the bible says he is thats good enough for me. you have to decide for yourself. why does the bible supercede any other writings the egyptians described their gods 1000s of years prior. for the people of that time they believed just as strongly as you do for much the same reason. hey if you want to follow a man-made god so be it. if you want to follow the god of abraham so be it. its your choice. some of those other gods existed for far longer. impossible. not so. we are living closer to jesus time than the ancient egyptians by several 1000 years. name a civilization that existed during the time of the ancient egyptians that were of christian faith that were larger in population in otherwords what was the predominant religion of the time in the world so you load a question to cause trouble miles like i told larry the other dieties cannot be older if the god you worship is one with no beginning or end. the god of the bible is the only god without human foibles without sin omniscient omnipresent omnipotent and still alive. sure youll reject the source the bible as being at all accurate but then one day we will all find out who is right wont we budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

on 25 jan 2007 203559 -0800 yabahoobs chendrikson@gmail.com wrote regardless electrical issues are pretty tough to deal with. probably best to take it to your local dodge dealership. or trade it. i know this sounds cruel but dodges can be a pill about thess kinds of problems sometimes. each brand has its quirks and dodge seems to have more than its fair sure of these kind when they get older sometimes. it will not be cheap to trouble shoot and repair at a dealer so hold on to your checkbook. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote i said their dieties their gods cannot be older. and being an older religion is not a guarantee of being the correct religion. nor does it make it the wrong religion. .

From : miles

it is either the speed sensor in the rear axle or the wiring going to it. in most cases it is the sensor. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving im ready to take my hubbys truck to the dump!! he is currently deployed and i am left to take care of this truck. the abs light is on the brake light is on and now the speedometer is going crazy!! can any of you guys/gals give me insight on what may be the problem do i need to take it somewhere to have it put on the diagnostic machine should i just take it to the dealer and pay them too much money ugh... -- posted at authors request using http//www.autoboardz.com interface articles individually verified to usenet standards. visit url to contact author/report abuse thread archive http//www.autoboardz.com/1999-1500-lots-problems-ftopict204552.html .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote you tend to want all to conform to your beliefs. jesus said there was but one way to heaven by his sacrifice on the cross. yes he said so not you. yet you want everyone to believe your way. some people would rather believe his way which may or may not be the same as your views. you will never get all christians to believe your way just as you will always refuse to follow others with differing views. that because we are all individuals who view things from their own eyes. back to that again are you jesus said it im just repeating it. or is that beyond your abilities being different does not mean you need to isolate yourself from others. youve never heard of hermits yes but i dont think one needs to be a hermit to be a christian. isolation is not a good thing for most. who said to isolate from the world i said to not follow the sins of the world like drunkeness lust envy pride greed profanity murderous thoughts etc. that is christian separation from the world. you wouldnt be here if that were the case! i can be around sin and sinful people i am not to join in or take sinful pleasure from it. the bible does not make a complete list of every single activity that may or may not be a sin. so he gave us a conscience gave us the ten commandments to teach the basics and told us to do what would be right in the eyes of god. it is man who has decided what is or isnt and people do not always agree. for instance many people feel christian rock music is a sin others dont. psalm 661 make a joyful noise unto the lord all ye lands. its also the excuse i use when i sing in church. because the bible says he is thats good enough for me. you have to decide for yourself. why does the bible supercede any other writings the egyptians described their gods 1000s of years prior. for the people of that time they believed just as strongly as you do for much the same reason. hey if you want to follow a man-made god so be it. if you want to follow the god of abraham so be it. its your choice. some of those other gods existed for far longer. impossible. not so. we are living closer to jesus time than the ancient egyptians by several 1000 years. name a civilization that existed during the time of the ancient egyptians that were of christian faith that were larger in population in otherwords what was the predominant religion of the time in the world so you load a question to cause trouble miles like i told larry the other dieties cannot be older if the god you worship is one with no beginning or end. the god of the bible is the only god without human foibles without sin omniscient omnipresent omnipotent and still alive. sure youll reject the source the bible as being at all accurate but then one day we will all find out who is right wont we budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

ya know if you post to a public group i think it becomes public property. im not a copywrite lawyer i just play one in cyberspace. -- t.g. lambach -- t.g. lambach at nohamorspamcomcast.net wrote in california pumps carry no label because the fuel is mandated statewide - no choice so no need for a label on the #2 pump. specific epa labeling exemption for california fuel retailers. -- 2006 t.g.lambach. publication in any form requires prior written permission. .

From : Annonymous

roy you have offended me with your offensive statements you are out of line and i am going to kill file you now! i am right because buddism says so!no you are wrong!! buddism says that im always right and anything you say is and will continue to be wrong.bfg no you are wrong i am not and if i have to i will beat you with a bible a cross and anything else i have to in order to prove it to you. are ya ready for trump i am buddism you are do ya remember beer!!! so ya can take all yer objects and stickem mr crass cause you are wrong! gbmfg .

From : roy

lol! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on jan 29 437 pm paulnhoutx paulnho...@yahoo.com wrote thank you tom. tom tom hes your man if he cant help you snoman can! vbg .

From : stormin mormon

on jan 29 417 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote ya know i starting thinking about how aadt used to be and started wondering what the hell happen to some people. lil jay - fliipped out and left wonder if he is still around somewhere lee - gary g. - sean in canada - nate - pops in sometimes but found a life prowler aka randy - i know he is still alive but has a lot going on in life how and i missing well what kind of timing do i have... first time in years that i popped into good ol aadt and i see a thread with my name in it. howdy howdy howdy i dont know how often ill be popping on the groups...but pac6996 gets me on aim gppimp gets me on yahoo and pgp3800@hotmail.com gets me on msn. any of you old farts feel like getting ahold of me...go right ahead how the hell are you doin roy .

From : stormin mormon

why would anyone follow such a miserable slammer i dont know.... -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. on mon 29 jan 2007 115806 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote well thats nice to know; that you are ordered by your denomination to be bigoted . . . hey thats what im accused of doing!!! no. it is what you do. some of us just take the time to point it out to you. you are welcome by the way. fyi btw the following interpretation was made by pastors of the southern baptist church and evangelical free church that never met each other at any time. the blackness which is not to be confused with darkness means gods light is nowhere to be found...he is not there wherever there is. crap i thought they just forgot to pay their electric bill. the plastic cross represents a false religious system that has led the person into a lie about their salvation. she was unsaved but didnt know it. imagine that. the blood on her body was her own meaning she died with all her sins unforgiven. her soul is doomed to hell. thats got to hurt. the vision was mine when i was 40 years old oh yeah i remember back when you were experimenting with peyote buttons. and when i told the pastors that the lady was my younger sister and that she was lds at the time of her death 1987 39 years old every one of them asked if there was any chance she had been saved before becoming lds and i had to tell them no. .

From : stormin mormon

on tue 30 jan 2007 042528 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote if it were your truck specifically tom lawrence what would you do the first thing that comes to mind is to check the timing chain. this is relatively easy to do by removing a valve cover and observing the amount of slack by turning the crankshaft pulley with a breaker bar/socket and seeing how much play there is before a valve moves roll the engine clockwise until a valve doesnt matter which one moves half-way down then see how much you cal roll it back before the valve starts moving back up. a dial indicator is useful here to know exactly when the valve moves. any more than about 5 degrees of rotation before valve movement would indicate a worn chain. snip a bunch of stuff that tom already posted. now how about you answer dennys question!!! thewronganswer.com .

From : azwiley1

my truck 2003 dodge ram 1500 quad cab 4x4 slt .. v-8 4.7 liter 4wd 41559 miles slt package a/c power steering windows locks tilt/cruise am/fm stereo with cd player dual front air bags bed liner towing package snow plow premium wheels automatic transmission remote start . bought it just over one year ago priced at 21k. it came with the plow. i dont think these new trucks are as good as the old days. my last truck was a full time 4wd - 1979. that old truck was great but had seen better days. now a guy on a farm uses it. so ok the newer one isnt perfect but so far it plows great with the heavy wet snows we get in the great lakes. marina .

From : Annonymous

on 29 jan 2007 141752 -0800 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote ya know i starting thinking about how aadt used to be and started wondering what the hell happen to some people. lil jay - fliipped out and left wonder if he is still around somewhere lee - gary g. - sean in canada - nate - pops in sometimes but found a life prowler aka randy - i know he is still alive but has a lot going on in life how and i missing yeah but were about to set a new record for arguing with a fool. 567 posts to an ot thread. some people never learn that when you argue with one the bystanders have a hard time telling which is which. beekeep .

From : Annonymous

on mon 29 jan 2007 172942 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on jan 29 317 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote ya know i starting thinking about how aadt used to be and started wondering what the hell happen to some people. lil jay - fliipped out and left wonder if he is still around somewhere lee - id like to hear from lee again. i remember he went to college to be a cop then changed his major. i wonder how he is doing. gary g. - didnt he pop in a couple of months ago sean in canada - nate - pops in sometimes but found a life prowler aka randy - i know he is still alive but has a lot going on in life how and i missing. damn i am tired and cant type either the above line whould read who am i missing fitch red although hes around. theguy is back with a new screen name i dont even remember what my original screen name was. do you man my memory is really bad. who was the guy with the vw and the first bio fuel i remember him...........give me a bit and ill think of it maybe .

From : Annonymous

on 29 jan 2007 143252 -0800 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote umm i never said that brother thompson didnt make sense. see........you are way ahead of me larry. i dont even know who the fuck brother thompson is. but then i also didnt say he didnt make any sense mainly because i dont know who he is. on jan 28 912 am stormin mormon cayoung61- &spambloc...@hotmail.com wrote i think brother thompson makes good sense. had to un-killfile you. i remembered why when i read a couple of your posts. your crude language is offensive. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i think you have been in hailing too many fumes from your crd tailpipe chris! lol for what its worth from me i have no problem with your stormins or even ahem budds views or religious talk in general. as with all in here there is and becomes a problem when you ram it down some ones throat. all but one in here truly understands that little tid bit of information. there are a lot of things i dont understand about the mormon sect some things i have seen from my step-son-in-law that really gets under my skin so instead of taking on the attitude of buddism i asked questionsunfortunately i still am clueless. i think it is just his upbringing and all. maybe stormin and i should start our own thread! lol nawww no need. i just was wondering your take on my views. obviously i didnt make that big of an impression of course i dont ramble on and on about them either. i posted a few comments to budd and the others about fruitless arguments and the such. mostly citing scripture along with them. i can respect you as a fellow christian although i am not a mormon and do not agree with all the views of the mormon church. the same with several other variants of christianity. personally as long as the main point is met accepting christ as your savior i can respect individual beliefs without conflict to my own. and there are parts in the bible that it talks about that but i cant remember exact book chapter verse at the moment. my curiosity was more along the lines that your statement as i read it was that the mormon church was the only one with astraight-line to god. if i miss read/interpreted your intent i apologize its just the way it read to me. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs.- hide quoted text -- show quoted text -- hide quoted text -- show quoted text -- hide quoted text -- show quoted text - .

From : Annonymous

on 29 jan 2007 142552 -0800 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on jan 28 912 am stormin mormon cayoung61- &spambloc...@hotmail.com wrote i think brother thompson makes good sense. had to un-killfile you. i remembered why when i read a couple of your posts. your crude language is offensive. not sure if you were directing the above comment at me or not however if it was you are free to k/f me again because i am not about to change who i am. so if you find things i say offensive such is life. no hurt feelings here. yeah larry he confused me a bit too. im not sure that he doesnt have you and me crossed up. my crudeness knows no bounds sometimes. i havent noticed that in you but who the fuck knows. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i think you have been in hailing too many fumes from your crd tailpipe chris! lol for what its worth from me i have no problem with your stormins or even ahem budds views or religious talk in general. as with all in here there is and becomes a problem when you ram it down some ones throat. all but one in here truly understands that little tid bit of information. there are a lot of things i dont understand about the mormon sect some things i have seen from my step-son-in-law that really gets under my skin so instead of taking on the attitude of buddism i asked questionsunfortunately i still am clueless. i think it is just his upbringing and all. maybe stormin and i should start our own thread! lol nawww no need. i just was wondering your take on my views. obviously i didnt make that big of an impression of course i dont ramble on and on about them either. i posted a few comments to budd and the others about fruitless arguments and the such. mostly citing scripture along with them. i can respect you as a fellow christian although i am not a mormon and do not agree with all the views of the mormon church. the same with several other variants of christianity. personally as long as the main point is met accepting christ as your savior i can respect individual beliefs without conflict to my own. and there are parts in the bible that it talks about that but i cant remember exact book chapter verse at the moment. my curiosity was more along the lines that your statement as i read it was that the mormon church was the only one with astraight-line to god. if i miss read/interpreted your intent i apologize its just the way it read to me. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs.- hide quoted text -- show quoted text -- hide quoted text -- show quoted text -- hide quoted text -- show quoted text - .

From : budd cochran

people here not speak up your nuts!! well roy you know there have been a few times where you have posted a few things that i really didnt like and found offensive so i k/fd you but was afraid to tell you. vbg funny i am found to be offensive and get k/fd yet there are times you theguy and tbone are just as bad if not worse and everyone loves you guys. oh well such is life maybe i should just start spouting off about religion or other things i know little to nothing about like a knock sensor on the v-10. .

From : budd cochran

really i just rebuilt a carter carb off a 72 dodge 318 a few weeks ago even used it to help my son learn how since it was the one thats been on that old d-150 for something like 300000 miles and previous 95000 on the old 72 dart it came off of and ya know what there wasnt enough wear on that carter to shake a fist at it just needed cleaned and kitted. once again you are wrong. if one carb doesnt require replacement maybe just maybe another one would not require it either. or mayby ten thousand could be repaired or . . . . . . and holleys have harder aluminum in their carbs than carter does. budd perhaps because after 33 years it is just worn out and no longer rebuildable. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i need a holley carb for a 73 with a 360 engine. if you have a known good one you want to part with email me. thanks why not rebuild your old one budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

teacher. so im not entitled to revelation in your behalf. actually youve been antagonistic and confrontational. so im not going to bother. and if i do get any revelation i wont tell you. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . let me get your opinion of a spiritual dream aka vision someone had many years ago since your denomination puts so much faith in them pitch black everywhere no light whatsoever. in the scene is a plastic cross about 6 feet tall and nailed on it a young lady very dead and covered entirely in her own blood. what do you think it means take some time and pray to your dieties for the explanation. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com . 222 329177 45be3372$0$1825$88260bb3@free.tera.com so it is ok for you to do what ive been accused of did you even bother to look at the links or is becoming a god too important to you how many church requirements for the celestial kingdom have you acheived temple recommend yet budd yep the spirit of evil and contention comes through loud and clear. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . http//www.irr.org/ http//www.utlm.org/ http//www.exmormon.org/ so why is the bible which is proven to be 99+% accurate rejected except where it appears to support mormonism and a book with over 350 revisions and no historical documents to support it accepted why does smith have 9 versions of his teenage vision circulating why did talmadge iirc say you worship a different jesus than christians budd stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote in message so answer me this. why is the spirit of the lord nice and clear when im reading church materials but i get confusion anger and ugly reactions when im reading anti-mormon crap like that your truth isnt confirmed by the spirit. sorry mate. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

on jan 29 329 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on jan 29 317 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote ya know i starting thinking about how aadt used to be and started wondering what the hell happen to some people. lil jay - fliipped out and left wonder if he is still around somewhere lee - gary g. - sean in canada - nate - pops in sometimes but found a life prowler aka randy - i know he is still alive but has a lot going on in life how and i missing. damn i am tired and cant type either the above line whould read who am i missingfitch red although hes around. theguy is back with a new screen name who was the guy with the vw and the first bio fuel hmm. not sure will have to dig up the files from the defunct aadt website and see who all is listed in there. .

From : azwiley1

on jan 29 317 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote ya know i starting thinking about how aadt used to be and started wondering what the hell happen to some people. lil jay - fliipped out and left wonder if he is still around somewhere lee - gary g. - sean in canada - nate - pops in sometimes but found a life prowler aka randy - i know he is still alive but has a lot going on in life how and i missing. damn i am tired and cant type either the above line whould read who am i missing fitch red although hes around. theguy is back with a new screen name who was the guy with the vw and the first bio fuel .

From : azwiley1

forget it no more worth discussing with you then trying to get budd to understand that he is more then welcome to worship and believe as he does but that it does not make him 100% correct about it and everyone else 100% wrong. on jan 28 913 am stormin mormon cayoung61- &spambloc...@hotmail.com wrote so what was your question -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i think you have been in hailing too many fumes from your crd tailpipe chris! lol for what its worth from me i have no problem with your stormins or even ahem budds views or religious talk in general. as with all in here there is and becomes a problem when you ram it down some ones throat. all but one in here truly understands that little tid bit of information. there are a lot of things i dont understand about the mormon sect some things i have seen from my step-son-in-law that really gets under my skin so instead of taking on the attitude of buddism i asked questionsunfortunately i still am clueless. i think it is just his upbringing and all. maybe stormin and i should start our own thread! lol- hide quoted text -- show quoted text -- hide quoted text -- show quoted text - .

From : Annonymous

if it is the injector would the computer know it was misfiring on #5 sure - just as it would know #5 was misfiring due to lack of spark or lack of compression. the pcm wont know why the cylinder is misfiring just that it is. it does this by sensing a slight loss then increase in crankshaft rpm via the crank position sensor. .

From : Annonymous

memory standby power lost what does it mean .

From : stormin mormon

perhaps because after 33 years it is just worn out and no longer rebuildable. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i need a holley carb for a 73 with a 360 engine. if you have a known good one you want to part with email me. thanks why not rebuild your old one budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : stormin mormon

as it happens youre not in my stewardship in any form. youre not in my family nor do any of my church callings involve you. im not your bishop nor your home teacher. nor am i your teacher. so im not entitled to revelation in your behalf. actually youve been antagonistic and confrontational. so im not going to bother. and if i do get any revelation i wont tell you. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. let me get your opinion of a spiritual dream aka vision someone had many years ago since your denomination puts so much faith in them pitch black everywhere no light whatsoever. in the scene is a plastic cross about 6 feet tall and nailed on it a young lady very dead and covered entirely in her own blood. what do you think it means take some time and pray to your dieties for the explanation. budd .

From : roy

chris thompson was the one who asked me. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. on sun 28 jan 2007 111111 -0500 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote i did glance through some back posts. before i noticed your oh nevermind. my sense is that youre a pleasant and sincere fellow. but that youre not lds. yes i believe that the lds church is the only one which has revelation from god through a prophet. was it budd .. .

From : budd cochran

tom lawrence wrote again this afternoon. my question is could the injector be acting up it did stumble a littlelike it did beforeand if it is the injector can just one be replaced is it a easy job to do in the driveway its possible the injector could be clogged or malfunctioning and that would certainly cause a mis-fire. if it is the injector would the computer know it was misfiring on #5 -- ken .

From : Annonymous

id appreciate some insight from anyone in the know about this engine. how do they deactivate the four non-contributing cylinders is it always the same four or do they shift it around in order to spread the wear when does the deactivation occur can the feature be manually locked out any known issues yet i remember the cadillac 8-6-4 system from years ago it was a pos throw-away engine. im looking at trading my 03 ram hemi before the $7k incentives run out next week buti dont want to be a guinea pig for a technology experiment that is valueless or worse. thanks in advance for any information martin .

From : stormin mormon

on sun 28 jan 2007 111111 -0500 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote i did glance through some back posts. before i noticed your oh nevermind. my sense is that youre a pleasant and sincere fellow. but that youre not lds. yes i believe that the lds church is the only one which has revelation from god through a prophet. was it budd and revelation to the members as needed for their personal lives and people in their stewardship. some non-lds folks may get a whisper of revelation now and again. i do have great respect for other christians who teach of christ and try to follow his example. christ did rebuke folks now and again. but his ministry was one of teaching. teach and invite others to follow. .

From : stormin mormon

anybody know what front-end alignment adjustments are possible on an 03 dakota of course toe but what about caster & camber also for any service folks whats up with a 4-wheel alignment from the dealer my invoice listed a 4-wheel alignment. even though i paid the advertised price on my discount coupon $49.95 is this just a scam to jack up the cost of a rwd front end alignment tia. regards joe .

From : stormin mormon

so what was your question -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. i think you have been in hailing too many fumes from your crd tailpipe chris! lol for what its worth from me i have no problem with your stormins or even ahem budds views or religious talk in general. as with all in here there is and becomes a problem when you ram it down some ones throat. all but one in here truly understands that little tid bit of information. there are a lot of things i dont understand about the mormon sect some things i have seen from my step-son-in-law that really gets under my skin so instead of taking on the attitude of buddism i asked questions unfortunately i still am clueless. i think it is just his upbringing and all. maybe stormin and i should start our own thread! lol .

From : stormin mormon

i think brother thompson makes good sense. had to un-killfile you. i remembered why when i read a couple of your posts. your crude language is offensive. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. i think you have been in hailing too many fumes from your crd tailpipe chris! lol for what its worth from me i have no problem with your stormins or even ahem budds views or religious talk in general. as with all in here there is and becomes a problem when you ram it down some ones throat. all but one in here truly understands that little tid bit of information. there are a lot of things i dont understand about the mormon sect some things i have seen from my step-son-in-law that really gets under my skin so instead of taking on the attitude of buddism i asked questions unfortunately i still am clueless. i think it is just his upbringing and all. maybe stormin and i should start our own thread! lol nawww no need. i just was wondering your take on my views. obviously i didnt make that big of an impression of course i dont ramble on and on about them either. i posted a few comments to budd and the others about fruitless arguments and the such. mostly citing scripture along with them. i can respect you as a fellow christian although i am not a mormon and do not agree with all the views of the mormon church. the same with several other variants of christianity. personally as long as the main point is met accepting christ as your savior i can respect individual beliefs without conflict to my own. and there are parts in the bible that it talks about that but i cant remember exact book chapter verse at the moment. my curiosity was more along the lines that your statement as i read it was that the mormon church was the only one with a straight-line to god. if i miss read/interpreted your intent i apologize its just the way it read to me. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : stormin mormon

on fri 26 jan 2007 112928 -0500 nursetracy noonespecial@nospam.hotmail.com wrote at least this guy didnt try to get me to pay for blinker fluid like the guy from the lube place did. you dont change your blinker fluid regularly thats just good pm like changing hoses and belts at regular intervals. whens lhe last time you changed the hubcap gaskets beekeep blinker fluid - http//kalecoauto.com/index.phpmainpage=productinfo&cpath=2&productsid=6 muffler bearing - http//kalecoauto.com/index.phpmainpage=productinfo&cpath=3&productsid=10 piston return spring - http//kalecoauto.com/index.phpmainpage=productinfo&cpath=3&productsid=27 dont pay too much for specialty items. fmb north mexico dude that is just too damn funny! .

From : chris thompson

thanks for the tip i found one under 15 bucks for the dakota now if i could be as lucky for the crossfire. tom ebay steve my wife had her purse stolen while we were on vacation she had the spare set of keys for my 2003 dakota and her 2005 chrysler crossfire. i know we will probably have to go to the dealer for the crossfire fob but does anyone know where i might find a cheap one for my dakota. tia tom r. .

From : azwiley1

thanks for the informationwill give it a try. .

From : roy

ive a a2. bought it for i think $850. they all are nice weapons the ability to fire 5.56 as well as .223 is handy. you can stick a 39 round mag into the predator with no problem too. shop around a bit but they usually sell pretty close to msrp. or look for a used one. shopping around for me a little of a problem as i only have two shops in town and closest others would be tucson 1 hr plus away but that would be ok if i find a good price. i could just leave work a little early. looked a different one today from dpms arms. it was a panther iirc .308 i liked the balance weight and feel of this one better plus it came fitted with a nice scope. .

From : chris thompson

i think you have been in hailing too many fumes from your crd tailpipe chris! lol for what its worth from me i have no problem with your stormins or even ahem budds views or religious talk in general. as with all in here there is and becomes a problem when you ram it down some ones throat. all but one in here truly understands that little tid bit of information. there are a lot of things i dont understand about the mormon sect some things i have seen from my step-son-in-law that really gets under my skin so instead of taking on the attitude of buddism i asked questions unfortunately i still am clueless. i think it is just his upbringing and all. maybe stormin and i should start our own thread! lol nawww no need. i just was wondering your take on my views. obviously i didnt make that big of an impression of course i dont ramble on and on about them either. i posted a few comments to budd and the others about fruitless arguments and the such. mostly citing scripture along with them. i can respect you as a fellow christian although i am not a mormon and do not agree with all the views of the mormon church. the same with several other variants of christianity. personally as long as the main point is met accepting christ as your savior i can respect individual beliefs without conflict to my own. and there are parts in the bible that it talks about that but i cant remember exact book chapter verse at the moment. my curiosity was more along the lines that your statement as i read it was that the mormon church was the only one with a straight-line to god. if i miss read/interpreted your intent i apologize its just the way it read to me. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. ill admit i havnt been paying much attention. id have to reset the group on my reader and re-download some back posts. so just not sure. ill go back and look if you wish. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . out of curiosity stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote in message so answer me this. why is the spirit of the lord nice and clear when im reading church materials but i get confusion anger and ugly reactions when im reading anti-mormon crap like that have you felt the negative feelings with my posts discussing the scripture and god or have you felt as though its confirmed your truth isnt confirmed by the spirit. sorry mate. how about mine -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : miles

20000 reward offered to expose the conspiracy i am making a pledge for information directly leading to the exposing of the bbc caster conspiracy. the exposing would specifically need to lead to a legally binding admission from martyn lewis or michael buerk of the bbc they they were watching me through the tv set. i would be happy delighted in fact to pay gbp 20000 sterling in reward for the above admission. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2910 -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

a friend of mine who is a better mechanic than i will ever be says this is a common problem with valvoline instant oil change places. id try an oil change before a sending unit test. my favorite is castrol. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. can anyone tell me where the oil sending unit is located on a 98 ram with a 5.2 in it still losing oil pressure when at idle so ill start there. thanks .

From : budd cochran

on 16 jan 2007 210816 -0800 veronica veronicavillegasdelariva@gmail.com wrote hi i need help with a little problem. my dodge ram has a problem with the parking lights. all lights work but for some reason when i turn the lights the break lights refuse to work. could someone please help. i have already chaged the headlight swith along with the harness i have purchased three headlight switches and i harness. thanks veronica sounds like a grounding problem to me. an open ground can cause some really strange problems in multi-fliment bulb circuits. leroy .

From : miles

bigironram wrote ever since the gear went in my odometer my mpg has really gotten bad. any ideas beekeep the bees arent pulling their weight take you foot out of it! .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote why because you are unable to let me be do you let anyone here be them heck no. you correct them every chance you get. so allow yourself to be corrected in the same manner. .

From : miles

why because you are unable to let me be because you wont leave us alone with your foolish self serving bs .

From : miles

tbone wrote where do you come up with this distorted bullshit its called a literal metaphor. .

From : miles

roy wrote this is just tooo friggin weird!!!! if i understand the above catholics are now spiritual cannibals yep and he continues to judge other christians as well as anyone else he choses. .

From : roy

bush was bought and paid for by big oil. what do you expect him to do i just heard on the that the price of oil has fallen 35% since july! i really havent tracked it all that well but it doesnt seem to me that the price at the pumps have fallen 35%. now keep in mind that the oil companies were awfully quick to raise the price at the pumps--a few times when the price of a barrel of oil went up the pump price went up that same day in response even though the price of the gas you were buying wasnt included in the per barrel jump. now if bush wants to know what to do to get his ratings back...........well for my part he could kick the big oil companies ass a little. that would make me like him a whole lot more! .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote no your appearance as a christian is laughable and just observing your actions in this group prove you are not likely to win anyone to christ even less so than i am. are you serious you having won anyone here to christ. youve shoved them clear away if anything. i know to many other decent christians that dont come close to your absurd behavior in here. they have earned my respect. you have lost all respect from anyone here. .

From : miles

theguy@whatever.net wrote now if bush wants to know what to do to get his ratings back...........well for my part he could kick the big oil companies ass a little. that would make me like him a whole lot more! bush doesnt control the price of oil or gas. theyre commodities. i do wish hed get rid of some of the subsidies going to oil companies and trash the democrats restrictions on building new refineries. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote and your link to this evidence huh show me any evidence that anything of a religious nature has been proven and verified to have occurred. it is all conjecture and speculation. maybe it did maybe it didnt. however there have been non-religious parts of the bible that have been proven to be true. certain individuals places mentioned etc. are verified to be true. the same can not be said about the religious content. .

From : budd cochran

check your fuses if good possible brakelight switch is bad veronica wrote hi i need help with a little problem. my dodge ram has a problem with the parking lights. all lights work but for some reason when i turn the lights the break lights refuse to work. could someone please help. i have already chaged the headlight swith along with the harness i have purchased three headlight switches and i harness. thanks veronica -- posted at authors request using http//www.autoboardz.com interface articles individually verified to usenet standards. visit url to contact author/report abuse thread archive http//www.autoboardz.com/headlight-parking-light-problem-ftopict203699.html .

From : Annonymous

ok stopped to get my haircut today...friend stayed in truck listening to radio. 25 minutes...completely dead battery. push it to start make one quick 5 minute start and left motor running then completed the 15 minute trip home. got the charger and set to 40 amps and charger read full and shut off. set to 20 amps and charging commenced and continued. wtf is going on im always bragging about my ram and it never giving me problems....still will but i need to figure this out. plan on getting that power cable recall done next week. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels thats kind of what i figured as well. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels .

From : tbone

on wed 17 jan 2007 115321 -0600 bob m ram1220@vzavenue.net wrote roy wrote so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. this is just tooo friggin weird!!!! if i understand the above catholics are now spiritual cannibals he really has lost it. budd needs to be locked up for his safety as well as others. im not sure that he isnt. he could be typing this from the home if you know what i mean. bob .

From : bob m

then expect to deal with a vast amount of rejection and criticism. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving when will you get a clue this is who i am who i will be from now on out. budd when you stop ramming your beliefs down others throats even after they ask you to stop. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving so tell me something when will that apply to me budd budd cochran wrote the only problem ken is that i wasnt harboring any grudges against anyone in this group and still dont but many chose to take offense that i made a decision to try to live closer to my god and what he wants me to be. i and most others here dont care how you want to live your life. but you take offense at their ways the same way you accuse them of. thats why religion shouldnt be discussed in ngs!! everyone has their own views. live them and let others live theirs the way they choose without ridicule. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. how many follow it as it is written all of them. nope. some add to whats in the scripotures some detract and some claim the bible is wrong. how can that last one be christian being a christian means nothing more than accepting the lord as your savior and knowing that the only way to heaven is thru jesus christ. if you act like anyone else in the world how is anyone else supposed to recognize you as being a christian imho you do not act like a christian by any stretch of the meaning of the word. no budd i just dont act like the asshole that you have become big difference. the sad thing is that i really dont think that you have become a christian. it looks much more like you think you have found a good excuse to act like a jerk because there really is nothing christian about what you are doing now and as i have said before shame on you! so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian that is the great thing about being a christian budd i dont have to prove it to anyone. true but why would you need to hide it from another christian why do you continue to sin when the bible says not to we are all sinners and continue to do so budd including you. youre not reading a single word that you cant pick apart are you i am a sinner a forgiven sinner but a sinner. ive said it before and will continue to say it until the day i die. the difference is that most of us in here are man enought to admit to at least that much but not you. read just above here again and again until it sinks in. it is not a matter of hiding it budd it is a personal relationship between me and the lord and doesnt include you or anyone else. i never said it wasnt. in fact i have said repeatedly it is between jesus and the sinner but to refuse to give the denomination makes no sense because it can neither save nor condemn you. i promise i will not compare it to the bible. rotflmbo!!!!!! yet another one of your christian acts i guess. no your appearance as a christian is laughable and just observing your actions in this group prove you are not likely to win anyone to christ p k b !!!!!! in your opinion. speaking of which what changed about you when you became a christian i cant see that you any different from an athiest. and with your distorted view of what a christian is.... witrh your distorted view of the bible how would you know i am a christian and i dont believe the stories of the old testemant as fact. if it were thur then where is eaden where did all of the water go after the great flood and how exactly did the different races form again eden was destroyed in the flood of noah not that any humans were ever allowed back in. even the current tigris and euphrates rivers do not match the ones in genesis. perhaps because the writings in genesis were wrong. and you continue to prove you are not a believer. only by your distorted view point. no tom that would be the bible that says that. claiming to be christian isnt enough.luke 1324-28. that is correct and in reality that is all that you are doing. no the fact that i am willing to openly discuss my beliefs with others shows my faith is not hidden. your actons now or ever for that matter even remotely reflect that of a true christian yet you have been making that claim for years. again how would you know with your distorted view of the scriptures like i have also said to you for years you talk the talk but never walk the walk. come to church with me soon and see. come spend the day with me. before the flood the highest point on the earth according to christian scholars was 15 meters high about 49.22 feet high when the flood ended the mountains and hills rose up and drained the water the sea floors dropped to receive it. recent studies by christian scientists demonstrate the mechanics of rapid drainage resulting in places like the grand canyon. you are kidding right where do you or even that come up with this shit even if this crap were somehow true and no valid science will back this up where did the water come from to begin with how did the animals survive after the flood with no food how did noahs family survive with no food how did noahs family survive and multiply how did all of the plants and trees return to existance. sorry budd but it just didnt happen. science by its u

From : budd cochran

on tue 16 jan 2007 185933 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote i gave you a link can you not do that for me bfd dudd. i can find a link to say that pretty much says anything on the great big wide web. if not why should i if only to give you the proof you seek but reject when it comes your way budd budd cochran wrote as ive told others neither you nor i will find non-christian site that supports fundamental chrisitan beliefs. it would be contradictory to their idealology that christianity is false. find a site that supports my views thats not christian then if im wrong. just one would be enough. most non-christians sites are more open than you. many arent trying to disprove your views nor support them. .

From : bob m

on wed 17 jan 2007 120331 -0600 bob m ram1220@vzavenue.net wrote budd cochran wrote so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. where exactly does the bible say this lol you are really one screwed up dude. many denominations perform communion and they all do it exactly the way jesus did it and do it because jesus did it. the roman catholic church teaches that the wafer and wine become the body parts of christ to be consumed by the parishoners. you are wrong you religious fruitcake. amen. i was raised roman catholic and the above is symbolic just as it is in other religions. you really do amaze me with the crap you come up with. you really do need to be locked up for your safety as well as the safety of others. i really cant believe that you are this stupid. you really have to be crazy. you are probably right that you will get into heaven. but it wont be because you are a christian and that you act like one. it will be because of pity from god that a human being can actually be this twisted. either that or god needs more humor in heaven. bob .

From : bob m

budd cochran wrote so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. where exactly does the bible say this lol you are really one screwed up dude. many denominations perform communion and they all do it exactly the way jesus did it and do it because jesus did it. the roman catholic church teaches that the wafer and wine become the body parts of christ to be consumed by the parishoners. you are wrong you religious fruitcake. i was raised roman catholic and the above is symbolic just as it is in other religions. you really do amaze me with the crap you come up with. you really do need to be locked up for your safety as well as the safety of others. i really cant believe that you are this stupid. you really have to be crazy. you are probably right that you will get into heaven. but it wont be because you are a christian and that you act like one. it will be because of pity from god that a human being can actually be this twisted. either that or god needs more humor in heaven. bob .

From : tbone

budd cochran wrote i cannot answer that if i do not know the person or observe their fruits. i cannot answer it if i believe them to be christian. salvation is a personal spiritual state that has little to do with denomination and everything to do with accurate understanding of the bible. i has nothing to do with attending a church any church. some denominations do not follow all the teachings of the bible and reject the ones that they disagree with or think for some strange reason that god couldnt have put in the bible what he really meant or that god doesnt mean it that way anymore. those are the denominations that give me reason to question what they believe and what they claim to be the way to salvation. sounds like buddism doesnt it bob .

From : roy

test wrote now that cold has finally come to houston my air bag light comes on and stays on after the truck is started preceded by 4 chimes what does 4 chimes indicate a loose connection brought on by the cold it has done this intermittently since i bought the truck new to me in 2000 only when the outside temp drops like it is now 30 degrees with the heater on after the cab gets good and warm the light may go out. thanks curtis in houston tx my 01 ram 1500 did the same thing when the clockspring needed to be fixed. do you hear clicking noises when turning the steering wheel bob .

From : budd cochran

no problem. if you ever have a question about something i believe in just ask. no please dont! g budd budd cochran wrote ken i realize you may be tied up with work right now and not able to answer right away but i hope the post about my beliefs helped you understand what i believe. budd priorities. this discussion isnt at the top of my list yet. im still reading the group and posting a quick reply here and there but i cant engage lengthy discussions right now. -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

i just heard on the that the price of oil has fallen 35% since july! i really havent tracked it all that well but it doesnt seem to me that the price at the pumps have fallen 35%. now keep in mind that the oil companies were awfully quick to raise the price at the pumps--a few times when the price of a barrel of oil went up the pump price went up that same day in response even though the price of the gas you were buying wasnt included in the per barrel jump. now if bush wants to know what to do to get his ratings back...........well for my part he could kick the big oil companies ass a little. that would make me like him a whole lot more! he will not betray his owners especially when he will out of office soon and wants that money. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : Annonymous

so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. where exactly does the bible say this lol you are really one screwed up dude. many denominations perform communion and they all do it exactly the way jesus did it and do it because jesus did it. at the last supper jesus used those items as symbols he did not convert them. that would have been contrary to jewish dietary laws. where do you come up with this distorted bullshit -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : chris thompson

on wed 17 jan 2007 093634 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. this is just tooo friggin weird!!!! if i understand the above catholics are now spiritual cannibals yes another very christian comment from dudd. this really is startin to get good. .

From : budd cochran

so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. where exactly does the bible say this lol you are really one screwed up dude. many denominations perform communion and they all do it exactly the way jesus did it and do it because jesus did it. the roman catholic church teaches that the wafer and wine become the body parts of christ to be consumed by the parishoners. all other christian denominations except the latter day saints teach the cracker and grape juice new wine are the symbols of the body and blood of christ. the lds church uses leavened white bread and water for commnunions which cannot by jewish law be considered proper for consumption at the passover meal it is a corruption of the scriptures. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

you didnt know this a a catholic budd so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. this is just tooo friggin weird!!!! if i understand the above catholics are now spiritual cannibals -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

but we are to be ready to give an answer. budd that wasnt only aimed at you but also at the other believers that do not agree with your exact views. as none of yall are likely to change the others minds. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. probably. budd pearls before the swine. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

i just heard on the that the price of oil has fallen 35% since july! i really havent tracked it all that well but it doesnt seem to me that the price at the pumps have fallen 35%. now keep in mind that the oil companies were awfully quick to raise the price at the pumps--a few times when the price of a barrel of oil went up the pump price went up that same day in response even though the price of the gas you were buying wasnt included in the per barrel jump. now if bush wants to know what to do to get his ratings back...........well for my part he could kick the big oil companies ass a little. that would make me like him a whole lot more! .

From : roy

thats my guess. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. shipping will cost more than its worth ;- .

From : nosey

get her an ugly color yugo or a lada dale or an 84 chevette! .

From : budd cochran

that wasnt only aimed at you but also at the other believers that do not agree with your exact views. as none of yall are likely to change the others minds. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. probably. budd pearls before the swine. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

now that cold has finally come to houston my air bag light comes on and stays on after the truck is started preceded by 4 chimes what does 4 chimes indicate a loose connection brought on by the cold it has done this intermittently since i bought the truck new to me in 2000 only when the outside temp drops like it is now 30 degrees with the heater on after the cab gets good and warm the light may go out. thanks curtis in houston tx take it to your local dealer and get them to check the codes. i have a feeling that you probably have a bad clock spring but need to check it out to be sure. throwing parts at something like an airbag system can be costly to say the least. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : budd cochran

and your link to this evidence budd budd cochran wrote if the link is to a site with confirmed verfiable truth about the bible and not conjecture why are you afraid to give the link anything that has been verified has been of a non-religious nature. everything else has never been confirmed and verified as truth. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm actually your denomination believes the blessing converts the wafer and wine to the actual body and bloodof christ which makes you a spiritual cannibal. at the last supper jesus used those items as symbols he did not convert them. that would have been contrary to jewish dietary laws. and jesus never broke any laws. you need to read the bible more; early christians were told in romans chap. 3 to not continue in sin but to separate from the world. jesus taught the tongue was the most evil part of the body full of lies profanities in matthew. also why do we as christian/catholic have to provide evidence and convince any one other then jesus and god what religion we follow when was the last time i real life not buddism world that some one accused us of not being very christ like never happen to me any any situation i have even been in cept here by you budd. i asked out of courtesy originally so as to understand your point of view on salvation catholic by grace plus works and traditions instead of by grace alone eph 28-9 your traditions confessing to a man priest instead of direct to god prayer thru a long convoluted switchboard of saints before god can hear your prayer. there are many true believers in the catholic church and there are a lot that arent and think as long as they attend confession and mass occasionally theyre safe and theyre not. these are just some of the points the roman catholic church does not follow scripture. i am only pointing it out so you will know what the priests wont tell you. i meant no offense. and im sure there has been others that have asked where you went to church. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

get her an ugly color yugo or a lada dale xiedncn6lozytjdynz2dnuvzugjnz2d@comcast.com phil rhodes p.rhodes@nospamcomcast.net wrote my wifes blazer was prowled last night and while they didnt take anything they obviously looked for something to take. what little that was in the car was tossed around inside. and they tried to jimmy her the club that was on the steering wheel but only resulted in freezing it so we had to call a locksmith to drill it out. this is the 4th prowl in the last couple years - the first two times they broke windows to get in. when i asked the window guy why arent windows harder to break he said safety you might want to get out!. so i guess she needs a new car. what type of car/truck is prowled the least can i get it with bullet proof windows that cant be smashed .

From : chris thompson

roy wrote roy wrote roy wrote benny parsons passed away this morning. hes really going to be missed. roy please tell me that you are joking! nope hes been in a coma for a bit. a blood clot as a result of treatment as i understand it. man you really know how to ruin a guys day! a whole lot of people had their day ruined today. bp was nothing but class. i wonder what they will do with him out of the broadcast booth. that must be part of buddism. buddism really pales in the grand scheme of things when you hear like this. yup. it is going to make for a not so exciting season. different with out having him on there. maybe ned jarrett will come back for a bit. wonder who they will get to replace him anyway here is a link to an article about his death. http//sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/larsanderson/01/16/parsons/index.html .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote ken i realize you may be tied up with work right now and not able to answer right away but i hope the post about my beliefs helped you understand what i believe. budd priorities. this discussion isnt at the top of my list yet. im still reading the group and posting a quick reply here and there but i cant engage lengthy discussions right now. -- ken .

From : Annonymous

budd cochran wrote no i didnt because as ive tried to get thru your skull i did not judge anyone i compared their denominations to what the bible says. whats the difference now you are trying to redefine judging to fit your needs. of course you are never guilty of anything!! you have judged people budd. you told me id go to hell. hate to tell you budd but thats not up to you. you judged. now repent. .

From : azwiley1

on tue 16 jan 2007 191113 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote as ive told others neither you nor i will find non-christian site that supports fundamental chrisitan beliefs. it would be contradictory to their idealology that christianity is false. thats because fundamental christians if you are a good example of them are all like fundamental muslims and are nut cases! yep. you are catching on. you are arguing with a total moron. for whatever reason his mind went south but his body stayed behind. find a site that supports my views thats not christian then if im wrong. just one would be enough. budd budd cochran wrote there are no contradictions in the bible yes the same story told by different people but they do not contradict. look at http//www.carm.org/ and scroll down to the section bible difficulties. carm is one particular interpretation that you seem to hold onto firmly as the only source in the world. why because it fits your views. scholars do not all come to the same conclusion. you just dismiss them because they do not fit your views. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

actually the windows are fine but the plastic thing to lock the windows broke. any ideas where i can buy it .

From : nosey

yes lift the radiator cap & drive a sprinter under it .

From : miles

pearls before the swine. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : Annonymous

budd cochran wrote if the link is to a site with confirmed verfiable truth about the bible and not conjecture why are you afraid to give the link anything that has been verified has been of a non-religious nature. everything else has never been confirmed and verified as truth. .

From : budd cochran

so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! im sorry could you please provide chapter and verse from the bible where it states that being christian/catholic means you cant use profanity where you cant consumme alcohol where is states you have to accept the written word of god exactly like it is in the bible i dont recall seeing that. ironically enough when you accept communion and partake in the body and blood of christ you are consumming red wine that has been blessed. hmmmm also why do we as christian/catholic have to provide evidence and convince any one other then jesus and god what religion we follow when was the last time i real life not buddism world that some one accused us of not being very christ like never happen to me any any situation i have even been in cept here by you budd. .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote i cannot answer that if i do not know the person or observe their fruits. i cannot answer it if i believe them to be christian. what a complete cop out. you stated you only judge non-christians. you have judged pretty much everyone here who disagrees with your views. you have never met these people you do not know them yet you have judged them. therefore by your standards they must not be christians otherwise you would not have judged them. now you say you cant determine if they are or arent because you do not know them. you broke your own rule. now repent! no i didnt because as ive tried to get thru your skull i did not judge anyone i compared their denominations to what the bible says. but thank you for proving my point from before that you are closed minded as anyone can be to what is really in the scriptiures. and by such making our conversations worthless. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

on tue 16 jan 2007 114550 -0800 phil rhodes p.rhodes@nospamcomcast.net wrote my wifes blazer was prowled last night and while they didnt take anything they obviously looked for something to take. what little that was in the car was tossed around inside. and they tried to jimmy her the club that was on the steering wheel but only resulted in freezing it so we had to call a locksmith to drill it out. this is the 4th prowl in the last couple years - the first two times they broke windows to get in. when i asked the window guy why arent windows harder to break he said safety you might want to get out!. so i guess she needs a new car. what type of car/truck is prowled the least can i get it with bullet proof windows that cant be smashed have you considered relocating leroy .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote what part of the gospels do you not understand as being written by contemporaries people that walked the hills ate the meals slept under the stars with jesus. geez budd!!! they did not write one single word contemporary to his time. everything they wrote was after his death. got it yet yes i got it but what does it matter they were the eyewitnesses they were under conviction by god to tell others of the life of jesus which was done with travels thru the countries and finally dr. luke a physician that was also a christian believer wrote them down for those that could not write themselves. he was under the same conviction to be accurate and truthful. and the evidence in the form of copies spread thru the world that are in complete agreement as to the life personage and godhood of jesus of nazareth. and thats what matters. the bible has never been verified except from a few historical points such as particular individuals and certain events all non-religious in nature. you said the whole bible was not verified except from a few historical points which is true of many of shakespeares characters for example and his works are fiction ergo it can be understood from what you wrote that you consider the bible to be a work of fiction based on your exact words as you wrote them. is this not correct if not why didnt you write what you meant so i would know it whoa here budd. where the heck are you going here if somethings not verified then it must be fiction good grief are you warped!! this is one of your best attempts to twist things to suit your needs!!! no its my attempt to untwist your writings and make clear the meanings to what you wrote. do you consider the bible to be a work of fiction or what and its all verfied by physical evidence in the form of the copies of the manuscripts. the contents of the bible have never been verified completely. the complete origins of the bible are unknown and the contents not proved. according to whom secular theologians a definite contradiction in terms or by christian denomination theologians that do not accept the bible as written. if their minds were closed to the possibilities or they did not wish to risk being proved wrong they will never accept the complete and tue bible. and you are doing yourself no service by rejecting the sites that disagree with your experts. youre practicing the same bias in reverse that you accuse me of except ive already studied both sides of the issue. and after the studies your side is illogical fails to empiracally prove its point and suffers from a plague of assumptions that are on par with the mess coming from the evolutionists. budd budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

as ive told others neither you nor i will find non-christian site that supports fundamental chrisitan beliefs. it would be contradictory to their idealology that christianity is false. thats because fundamental christians if you are a good example of them are all like fundamental muslims and are nut cases! find a site that supports my views thats not christian then if im wrong. just one would be enough. budd budd cochran wrote there are no contradictions in the bible yes the same story told by different people but they do not contradict. look at http//www.carm.org/ and scroll down to the section bible difficulties. carm is one particular interpretation that you seem to hold onto firmly as the only source in the world. why because it fits your views. scholars do not all come to the same conclusion. you just dismiss them because they do not fit your views. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote i gave you a link can you not do that for me if not why should i if only to give you the proof you seek but reject when it comes your way what does a link mean absolutely nothing! you look for links on the web to support your views and dismiss anything that goes against them. the web is full of crap. you can find a site that says anything you want it to. it means nothing. so if i make a website and give you the link to it will it mean anything good grief. .

From : budd cochran

a yes or no answer for your question its not possible and be faithful to gods word. oh bullshit!!! it is too possible to answer the question you just refuse to because in by doing so you will have to admit that you were wrong about something and that will never happen. budd budd cochran wrote no i answered your question by giving you the source from which i get my beliefs and views. how much more direct do you want it i asked you a simple yes or no question. you say you follow the bible. so do other christians. they disagree with many of your views and they get their info to support it the same way you do. are they christians or non-christians yes or no budd. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

i gave you a link can you not do that for me if not why should i if only to give you the proof you seek but reject when it comes your way budd budd cochran wrote as ive told others neither you nor i will find non-christian site that supports fundamental chrisitan beliefs. it would be contradictory to their idealology that christianity is false. find a site that supports my views thats not christian then if im wrong. just one would be enough. most non-christians sites are more open than you. many arent trying to disprove your views nor support them. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

lets hope not or hell be out of business fast. budd mtechgraphics@gmail.com wrote www.mtechgraphics.com your 1 stop graphic vinyl decal shop. we do all types of custom work for all cars trucks boats suvs semi trucks trailers atvs golf carts etc. we offer custom made signs for your busienss fleet lettering custom made banners etc. we do just about all types of custom work you can think about. check it out today!!! www.mtechgraphics.com we offer custom made signs for your busienss uhm...do you do your own proofreading wolfie -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

my wifes blazer was prowled last night and while they didnt take anything they obviously looked for something to take. what little that was in the car was tossed around inside. and they tried to jimmy her the club that was on the steering wheel but only resulted in freezing it so we had to call a locksmith to drill it out. this is the 4th prowl in the last couple years - the first two times they broke windows to get in. when i asked the window guy why arent windows harder to break he said safety you might want to get out!. so i guess she needs a new car. what type of car/truck is prowled the least can i get it with bullet proof windows that cant be smashed i would either move or i would shoot the thieves. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote as ive told others neither you nor i will find non-christian site that supports fundamental chrisitan beliefs. it would be contradictory to their idealology that christianity is false. find a site that supports my views thats not christian then if im wrong. just one would be enough. most non-christians sites are more open than you. many arent trying to disprove your views nor support them. .

From : Annonymous

tom lawrence wrote magnaflow dual exhaust 180 degree thermostat and looking to boost some horsepower to around 300 from stock motor. i dont believe that cold one word cummins another word dumbass the guy wants to add about 70hp and you want him to swap for a diesel to the op give the people at krc performance http//www.krcperformance.com a call. with some headers a cat-back larger throttle body maybe a new cam and a custom flash for your pcm you can easily get to your hp goal. also running 35 tires with your stock axles probably 3.921 gears will make it feel like a dog. you should be running 4.561 gears in your axles for those tires. thanks i will take a look at there website and the gears too. as for the cummins swap for get it. if i wanted a cummins i would have bought one. .

From : Annonymous

budd cochran wrote no i answered your question by giving you the source from which i get my beliefs and views. how much more direct do you want it i asked you a simple yes or no question. you say you follow the bible. so do other christians. they disagree with many of your views and they get their info to support it the same way you do. are they christians or non-christians yes or no budd. .

From : Annonymous

on tue 16 jan 2007 095614 -0700 dudd cochran the moron mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote ken i realize you may be tied up with work right now and not able to answer right away but i hope the post about my beliefs helped you understand what i believe. i think you have pretty much helped everyone here to understand where you are coming from. really. budd ken this part is actually easy to understand. if you were to read just about every other post from him it would be clear to see that so far as he cares he is always right. the one fact that he fails to understand are the points that you are making all of which you are afaik 100% correct on. there just is no way anyone person can say that the bible regardless of version is error free or the exact word of god. the bible really is no different then any other historical book every time it is re-written by some one new there is always going to be error because of said writes interpretation of what they read. so that being the case over time those errors are going to increase and at some point in time will make the book so convoluted that it is meaningless. the goal of my conversation with budd here is not to change his religious beliefs or prove him wrong about anything. i think he already knows that my religious beliefs and his dont exactly match. i suppose im trying to show him my perspective of his religious interaction with others while gaining a better understanding of his beliefs but we havent gone that far yet. he may be right he may be wrong but im not questioning that. -- ken ken i appreciate this comment. i respect that you want to find out more about my beliefs. let me help i believe the bible to be the inspired inerrant word of god. i do not believe any other book meets these requirements. i believe that god exists eternally as a three-in-one triune god with all the required attributes of a true living god and was never a mortal nor ever had a beginning or will have and end.. this is possible because he is god. i believe that god created all that is the universe and its physical laws all living things and it waws all perfect until man fell from grace by his own freewill choice. i believe evolution is not proven at all or in any respect. i believe that jesus the second being of the tinity was born of a virgin miraculously concieved by the power of god lived as a carpenter for 30 years and taught for three years. he is wholly god and wholly man. he died on the cross as the sacrificial lamb given by god as the atonement sacrifice jewish law for sin once and for all and with no requirements to receive that grace except to repent of your sin and believe. he rose bodily on the third day jewish reckoning to bring believers eternal life. i believe jesus as the messiah died for me for my sins past present and future and that i am now a child of god a believer called by him to a life or worship faith and teaching. i am not to hide my beliefs for any reason or person. i am called to be separate from non-believers or those fallen away from god and i am chosen by god to follow him and to live for him as i understand i am to do through prayer and study. my commitment is to be complete with no reservation. does this help budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

on tue 16 jan 2007 094839 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. how many follow it as it is written all of them. nope. some add to whats in the scripotures some detract and some claim the bible is wrong. how can that last one be christian being a christian means nothing more than accepting the lord as your savior and knowing that the only way to heaven is thru jesus christ. if you act like anyone else in the world how is anyone else supposed to recognize you as being a christian imho you do not act like a christian by any stretch of the meaning of the word. no budd i just dont act like the asshole that you have become big difference. the sad thing is that i really dont think that you have become a christian. it looks much more like you think you have found a good excuse to act like a jerk because there really is nothing christian about what you are doing now and as i have said before shame on you! so calling me the names youve called people the profanity you use directed at people the denials of what is written in gods word the denial that the bible is even gods word...these are the good fruits of the spirit the prime examples of your walk with god the evidence to convict others that you are a christian rotflmbo!!!!!! well........your melodrama had me until the last part there dudd. now the last part was very unchristian. you will need to ask for forgiveness for that. you can ask me if you want. i am a christian and i dont believe the stories of the old testemant as fact. if it were thur then where is eaden where did all of the water go after the great flood and how exactly did the different races form again eden was destroyed in the flood of noah not that any humans were ever allowed back in. even the current tigris and euphrates rivers do not match the ones in genesis. perhaps because the writings in genesis were wrong. and you continue to prove you are not a believer. before the flood the highest point on the earth according to christian scholars was 15 meters high about 49.22 feet high when the flood ended the mountains and hills rose up and drained the water the sea floors dropped to receive it. recent studies by christian scientists demonstrate the mechanics of rapid drainage resulting in places like the grand canyon. you are kidding right where do you or even that come up with this shit even if this crap were somehow true and no valid science will back this up where did the water come from to begin with how did the animals survive after the flood with no food how did noahs family survive with no food how did noahs family survive and multiply how did all of the plants and trees return to existance. sorry budd but it just didnt happen. science by its uncorrupted definition is knowledge and the gaining of that knowledge thru verifiable experimentation and investigation with repeatable results. evolution scientists have yet to get one experiment to repeat consistently or to generate life from molecules. the water came from the underground aquifers and the fountains of the deep were broken up from the sky and god place a firmament between the earth and the sky. according to creation scientists the amount of water all totaled up would cover a smooth and the earth was without form and void. earth at the estimated highest point by hundreds of meters . . . now you know why the oceans have to be so deep. in a years building time dont you think that enough foodstuffs could be gathered for a year long journey for the kinds of animals not species of animals and for just eight people when god amde adam and eve their genes were absolutely perfect no errors at all by noahs time the small percentage of errors caused by the fall of man in the garden werent enough to worry about when marrying close to your relatives where did cain find a wife and several centuries went by before any restrictions were imposed the scientists need to compare the genes of the swiss iceman osti to todays people. theyll find there was a severe degradation since his time. the plants survived by . . . . . .seeds and spores. compact light and many are usable for food. the is but one race the human race the skin colorations physical characteristics and so on are from climatic adaption and genetic degradation according to christian scientists www.answersingenesis.org has the full articles for these questions not according to genetics. in animal husbandry if a creature can breed with other species of its kind then they are compatible all dogs can interbreed all cows can interbreed. all humans can interbreed so we are of a kind a race of humans.

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote tbone wrote the market is always where it should be. not so at all. the market should reflect close to a companies worth. while i agree with you here that is not how it works and hasnt for many years. sure it works. its called a market correction. lots of people lose their shirts during market corrections! smh be sure to panic now before its too late! remember y2k http//www.bloomberg.com/apps/pid=20601087&sid=afygfba.l8pq&refer=home http//tinyurl.com/y5bwap .

From : budd cochran

ken i realize you may be tied up with work right now and not able to answer right away but i hope the post about my beliefs helped you understand what i believe. budd ken this part is actually easy to understand. if you were to read just about every other post from him it would be clear to see that so far as he cares he is always right. the one fact that he fails to understand are the points that you are making all of which you are afaik 100% correct on. there just is no way anyone person can say that the bible regardless of version is error free or the exact word of god. the bible really is no different then any other historical book every time it is re-written by some one new there is always going to be error because of said writes interpretation of what they read. so that being the case over time those errors are going to increase and at some point in time will make the book so convoluted that it is meaningless. the goal of my conversation with budd here is not to change his religious beliefs or prove him wrong about anything. i think he already knows that my religious beliefs and his dont exactly match. i suppose im trying to show him my perspective of his religious interaction with others while gaining a better understanding of his beliefs but we havent gone that far yet. he may be right he may be wrong but im not questioning that. -- ken ken i appreciate this comment. i respect that you want to find out more about my beliefs. let me help i believe the bible to be the inspired inerrant word of god. i do not believe any other book meets these requirements. i believe that god exists eternally as a three-in-one triune god with all the required attributes of a true living god and was never a mortal nor ever had a beginning or will have and end.. this is possible because he is god. i believe that god created all that is the universe and its physical laws all living things and it waws all perfect until man fell from grace by his own freewill choice. i believe evolution is not proven at all or in any respect. i believe that jesus the second being of the tinity was born of a virgin miraculously concieved by the power of god lived as a carpenter for 30 years and taught for three years. he is wholly god and wholly man. he died on the cross as the sacrificial lamb given by god as the atonement sacrifice jewish law for sin once and for all and with no requirements to receive that grace except to repent of your sin and believe. he rose bodily on the third day jewish reckoning to bring believers eternal life. i believe jesus as the messiah died for me for my sins past present and future and that i am now a child of god a believer called by him to a life or worship faith and teaching. i am not to hide my beliefs for any reason or person. i am called to be separate from non-believers or those fallen away from god and i am chosen by god to follow him and to live for him as i understand i am to do through prayer and study. my commitment is to be complete with no reservation. does this help budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

thanks for the help. scott big al wrote im going to replace the fuel filter on my 92 ram 150. the fuel filter unlike most newer trucks is located outside of the tank. pretty easy to get to. is there any pressure in the fuel lines at the filter i should know about thanks yes but its not a big problem. you can bleed the pressure off under the hood or just wrap a rag around the hose when you pull it off the filter. the filter hoses are swaged on. you have to cut the swaged part off the hose and use hose clamps to put the new filter on. or cut and replace the hoses. al .

From : roy

as ive told others neither you nor i will find non-christian site that supports fundamental chrisitan beliefs. it would be contradictory to their idealology that christianity is false. find a site that supports my views thats not christian then if im wrong. just one would be enough. budd budd cochran wrote there are no contradictions in the bible yes the same story told by different people but they do not contradict. look at http//www.carm.org/ and scroll down to the section bible difficulties. carm is one particular interpretation that you seem to hold onto firmly as the only source in the world. why because it fits your views. scholars do not all come to the same conclusion. you just dismiss them because they do not fit your views. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

no i answered your question by giving you the source from which i get my beliefs and views. how much more direct do you want it if it isnt in the bible then i dont believe it. if you choose not to look it up thats your problem. the book of romans is basic christian theology as taught to the roman believers by the apostle paul. if the person in question does not fit into the requirements set by pauls teachings then the only conclusion is that they are probably not a christian. for example romans 323 says for all have sinned and come short of the glory of god. it means just as it is written that no one on this planet not you not me no one is good enough to in the presence of god on our own merits. so if someone is not showing evidence in their life of being christian then its probable they are not a christian. romans 61and 2 states that if we continue in sin so grace abounds we are in the wrong because if we are saved then we are seperated from sin and no longer to be in sinfulness. if you act like an unsaved peson a non-christian then no one will be able to tell you are a christian ... youre hiding the light of god under a bushel as jesus said it. budd cochran wrote my views once again if you want to bother reading are found in the book of romans mostly in chapter 6. maybe youll read it correctly. you failed to answer the question as you always do. are other christians who say they follow the bible yet dont agree with your views christians or non-christians -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote so the part of the bible you apparently accept the new testament was written by who hint the disciples and they knew jesus personally. sigh....what part of writing contemporary to jesus time do you not comprehend what part of the gospels do you not understand as being written by contemporaries people that walked the hills ate the meals slept under the stars with jesus. why do you bother to read the bible to you its just a work of fiction. your own words as they are written say this is probably how you look at it. i never said they were a work of fiction. thats you rewriting what ive said to fit your needs. no you wrote the bible has never been verified except from a few historical points such as particular individuals and certain events all non-religious in nature. you said the whole bible was not verified except from a few historical points which is true of many of shakespeares characters for example and his works are fiction ergo it can be understood from what you wrote that you consider the bible to be a work of fiction based on your exact words as you wrote them. is this not correct if not why didnt you write what you meant so i would know it miles the bible cannot be chewed up and parts tossed out. in the ot are over 300 prophecies concerning the birth life death and resurrection of jesus. you have the historical and spiritual history of an entire nation modern day israel. you have the most logical and scientific in the original meaning of science = knowledge history of the universe with no need for guesses or assumptions or constant corrections. the nt points back in cross refences to the ot repeatedly and to many differing placs in the ot. and its all verfied by physical evidence in the form of the copies of the manuscripts. truly if you dont accept the entire bible give it to someone that might accept it because its isnt doing you a bit of good. it means nothing to you. if you havent the faith to trust the word of god as being true then you havent the faith to trust god to be true to his word. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. how many follow it as it is written all of them. nope. some add to whats in the scripotures some detract and some claim the bible is wrong. how can that last one be christian b

From : miles

damn greg that is an idea i never thought of! i have to drop my tank in the future as i have a faulty sending unit and never once thought to use my motorcycle jack. on 15 jan 2007 150345 -0800 mrk1949@comcast.net mrk1949@comcast.net wrote carolina watercraft works wrote how full is it -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels im guessing about 6 or 7 gallons mike k a motorcycle jack works great for dropping the tank. you can undo the fill tube and get your tube into the tank from there. thats how i did mine with 25 gallons in it. fuel pumps usually dont go bad when you have a near empty tank. dont ask me how they know! beekeep .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote you claimed they could be convieniently lost. your evidence you missed the point entirely. i said there wasnt anything written contemporary to jesus time and you seemed to argue that point. if there was anything written then i guess it was all lost even though other writings about other world events were recorded during his time. and what destroys hypothesis evidence verfied evidence unless you choose to reject any evidence contrary to the hypothesis. the bible has never been verified except from a few historical points such as particular individuals and certain events all non-religious in nature. .

From : budd cochran

much obliged chris. wolfie 99 ram 1500 qc 4x4 03 vulcan 1600 classic 07 maxima 3.5se chris thompson wrote welcome to the group -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. greets all. just wandered in having recently acquired a 99 1500 qc 4x4 5.9l auto. ive enjoyed reading the various threads covering different performance and service issues with these trucks and hope ill be able to contribute in some small way as my own experience grows. everything is relative...or relevant i can never remember which. in any case this truck is a farm truck and as such is a major step up from the 30 year old chevy 2x we just got rid of. the only reason we decided on another 4x4 having had the bug some 30 years ago already was we live very remotely in the siskiyou forest and get snowed in for a few days at a time a few times each winter. nothing too severe but at our age late 50s if something happened to one of us wed need to be able to get out regardless of road conditions. in any case compared to what im accustomed to this truck is almost as nice as grammas new maxie...almost. i havent any plans to trick it out aside from some kind of bed cover and getting the tranny bullet-proofed at the local shop a set of headers and cat-back system a blue-tooth capable cd-deck and some nerf....oh hell never mind. ;- anyway drinks are on me and thanks for keepin a light on. wolfie .

From : miles

savior and knowing that the only way to heaven is thru jesus christ. if you act like anyone else in the world how is anyone else supposed to recognize you as being a christian imho you do not act like a christian by any stretch of the meaning of the word. no budd i just dont act like the asshole that you have become big difference. the sad thing is that i really dont think that you have become a christian. it looks much more like you think you have found a good excuse to act like a jerk because there really is nothing christian about what you are doing now and as i have said before shame on you! now you are starting to get it. buddism is not about being a christian. it is about saying whatever you want insulting whoever you want not having to explain anything and most importantly being correct in weverything you say and write. although not a true religion more of an excuse all denominations should feel free to avail themselves to the teaching of buddism anytime they feel the need. im sure you have observed how well it works. i am a christian and i dont believe the stories of the old testemant as fact. if it were thur then where is eaden where did all of the water go after the great flood and how exactly did the different races form again eden was destroyed in the flood of noah not that any humans were ever allowed back in. even the current tigris and euphrates rivers do not match the ones in genesis. perhaps because the writings in genesis were wrong. before the flood the highest point on the earth according to christian scholars was 15 meters high about 49.22 feet high when the flood ended the mountains and hills rose up and drained the water the sea floors dropped to receive it. recent studies by christian scientists demonstrate the mechanics of rapid drainage resulting in places like the grand canyon. oh boy now buddism is into science and engineering. everybody had best pay attention to this. you are kidding right where do you or even that come up with this shit even if this crap were somehow true and no valid science will back this up where did the water come from to begin with how did the animals survive after the flood with no food how did noahs family survive with no food how did noahs family survive and multiply how did all of the plants and trees return to existance. sorry budd but it just didnt happen. ah yes it did. only if you use buddism can you come up with this hair brained stuff and sell it as fact. big snip..... . 222 328333 45aceb21$0$16996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. how many follow it as it is written all of them. nope. some add to whats in the scripotures some detract and some claim the bible is wrong. how can that last one be christian being a christian means nothing more than accepting the lord as your savior and knowing that the only way to heaven is thru jesus christ. if you act like anyone else in the world how is anyone else supposed to recognize you as being a christian imho you do not act like a christian by any stretch of the meaning of the word. no budd i just dont act like the asshole that you have become big difference. the sad thing is that i really dont think that you have become a christian. it looks much more like you think you have found a good excuse to act like a jerk because there really is nothing christian about what you are doing now and as i have said before shame on you! i am a christian and i dont believe the stories of the old testemant as fact. if it were thur then where is eaden where did all of the water go after the great flood and how exactly did the different races form again eden was destroyed in the flood of noah not that any humans were ever allowed back in. even the current tigris and euphrates rivers do not match the ones in genesis. perhaps because the writings in genesis were wrong. before the flood the highest point on the earth according to christian scholars was 15 meters high about 49.22 feet high when the flood ended the mountains and hills rose up and drained the water the sea floors dropped to receive it. recent studies by christian scientists demonstrate the mechanics of rapid drainage resulting in places like the grand canyon. you are kidding right where do you or even that come up with this shit even if this crap were somehow true and no valid science will back this up where did the water come from to begin with how did the animals survive after the flood with no food how did noahs family survive with no food how did noahs family survive and multiply how did all of the plants and trees return to existance. sorry budd but it just didnt happen

From : miles

budd cochran wrote so the part of the bible you apparently accept the new testament was written by who hint the disciples and they knew jesus personally. sigh....what part of writing contemporary to jesus time do you not comprehend why do you bother to read the bible to you its just a work of fiction. your own words as they are written say this is probably how you look at it. i never said they were a work of fiction. thats you rewriting what ive said to fit your needs. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote there are no contradictions in the bible yes the same story told by different people but they do not contradict. look at http//www.carm.org/ and scroll down to the section bible difficulties. carm is one particular interpretation that you seem to hold onto firmly as the only source in the world. why because it fits your views. scholars do not all come to the same conclusion. you just dismiss them because they do not fit your views. .

From : miles

on mon 15 jan 2007 222756 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. how many follow it as it is written all of them. nope. some add to whats in the scripotures some detract and some claim the bible is wrong. how can that last one be christian being a christian means nothing more than accepting the lord as your savior and knowing that the only way to heaven is thru jesus christ. if you act like anyone else in the world how is anyone else supposed to recognize you as being a christian imho you do not act like a christian by any stretch of the meaning of the word. ah dudd he acts much more christian than you do. a fact that you have yet to comprehend. but then you act more nuts than anything else anyway. i am a christian and i dont believe the stories of the old testemant as fact. if it were thur then where is eaden where did all of the water go after the great flood and how exactly did the different races form again eden was destroyed in the flood of noah not that any humans were ever allowed back in. even the current tigris and euphrates rivers do not match the ones in genesis. before the flood the highest point on the earth according to christian scholars was 15 meters high about 49.22 feet high when the flood ended the mountains and hills rose up and drained the water the sea floors dropped to receive it. recent studies by christian scientists demonstrate the mechanics of rapid drainage resulting in places like the grand canyon. the is but one race the human race the skin colorations physical characteristics and so on are from climatic adaption and genetic degradation according to christian scientists www.answersingenesis.org has the full articles for these questions as for adding to the scriptures you are doing that yourself with you distorted interpretation of the sermon on the mount. you discard the old testament and you have the audacity to accuse me of corrupting scriptures pkb tom. your doing something worrisome miles. you keep repeating the same mantra expecting me to admit to what you say. its not true what you are sdaying its your misunderstanding of what was said. hmm...you keep repeating your bs expecting to teach people here. hows it working so far depends on who want s to learn doesnt it and once again you make the claim that you are the only correct one. the problem here budd is that nobody can trust you because you prove over and over such as in the battery thread that even if you are proven wrong on anything you just deny it so why would this be any different. you didnt prove me wrong as you didnt do the math you just listed a bunch of formulae to make yourself look important. there is no need to do the specific math budd. the equations themselves all the proof that is needed.and if you knew even 1/100th of what uyou claim to you would know it to be true. instead you said that i was too long winded and that you didnt read it which is all honesty the words of a bitter and ignorant man and hardly a christian thing to do. look whos suddenly a christian and knows how a christian should act. what denomination are you all you were doing was trying to make yourself look important and puff up your pathetic ego. as for your claim about me all i said was that learning depends on the desire the wanting to learn. like miles you refuse the authors interpretation. unless you are the author htf do you know what the authors interpretation actually is the answer is that you dont. so you are incapable of understanding what is written as it is written its in the book of matthew and was said by jesus. sorry budd. i do not believe the bible instructs you to destroy anyone who doesnt believe your way. now youre starting to give credibility to such atrocities as the crusades. now youre stretching things too far out of perspective because of your biases and refusals to see what was written as anything except what you want it to be. which is and always was exactly the same thing you do!!! no i accept gods guidance to what his word means; you otoh refuse my meanings and substitute your own. maybe that why you dont understand the bible . . . i know that your demented mind tells you that you have some direct link with the lord but in reality you dont have a clue. iow you dont believe in answered prayer then how did you gain salvation if you didnt pray and ask for it and you never pray when was the last time you cried out indespiration oh god help me! i refuse your meanings because as everyone else in here and i would suspect in every other group that you are a member of thinks you are full of shi

From : budd cochran

the filter can actually be cleaned if its the same as on my ram...which i imagine it is. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels big al wrote agreed. the tank should be a plastic one so with 6 gallons it shouldnt be much heavier then a 5 gallon jerry can. it would be much more cumbersome. use a scrap of plywood and a floor jack. you will have to disconnect the fill hose and there are some hoses swaged on at the top of the tank. you have to lower the tank a little and get the hoses off. there is not a lot of play. be sure you can support the tank while you cut the swages off the hoses. on my truck the hose from the fuel pump to the round plastic plate in the top of the tank broke off. the pump was working but no fuel came out. autozone had the oem pump. al al i had heard that the fuel filter is part of the pump module but ive seen internet auto parts sites selling the filter by itself for $40! just want to double check is filter replaceable once i get the module out im going to order a filter no matter what but im hoping to get lucky and not actually need a $200 fuel pump. ps what is a swage the short rubber hose pieces used to join the fuel line to the tank thnx mikek .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote being a christian means nothing more than accepting the lord as your savior and knowing that the only way to heaven is thru jesus christ. i am a christian and i dont believe the stories of the old testemant as fact. if it were thur then where is eaden where did all of the water go after the great flood and how exactly did the different races form again as for adding to the scriptures you are doing that yourself with you distorted interpretation of the sermon on the mount. the problem i have with the old testament is that there are differing versions to the same story told by different people. many such as budd wont agree with that because they form their own interpretations to fit their beliefs their way. sorta like prophecies where people see something happen then look at where it fits into whats written. make it fit. youve never heard a rumor about someone and then got to ask that person what it was really about and found out the rumor was completely changed from fact there are no contradictions in the bible yes the same story told by different people but they do not contradict. look at http//www.carm.org/ and scroll down to the section bible difficulties. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

big al wrote agreed. the tank should be a plastic one so with 6 gallons it shouldnt be much heavier then a 5 gallon jerry can. it would be much more cumbersome. use a scrap of plywood and a floor jack. you will have to disconnect the fill hose and there are some hoses swaged on at the top of the tank. you have to lower the tank a little and get the hoses off. there is not a lot of play. be sure you can support the tank while you cut the swages off the hoses. on my truck the hose from the fuel pump to the round plastic plate in the top of the tank broke off. the pump was working but no fuel came out. autozone had the oem pump. al al i had heard that the fuel filter is part of the pump module but ive seen internet auto parts sites selling the filter by itself for $40! on some versions of the pump assembly the filter is replaceable but it is still in the tank with the pump. just want to double check is filter replaceable once i get the module out im going to order a filter no matter what but im hoping to get lucky and not actually need a $200 fuel pump. exactly how long do you think this pump is going to last it would really suck to take the tank down spend the time rebuilding the pump assembly reinstall it back into the tank and then have the damn thing fail again a year later because the old pump finally gave out. ps what is a swage the short rubber hose pieces used to join the fuel line to the tank -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote the market is always where it should be. not so at all. the market should reflect close to a companies worth. while i agree with you here that is not how it works and hasnt for many years. in the 90s people invested millions into companies that only existed on paper and never any produced a single product or service. so what. thats what its all about supply and demand. m$ is worth far more than many companies out there and yet the stock price remains fairly low because people just dont want to pay for it. the market was not where it should be. the market is always exactly where it should be because it has lost most of its meaning. awesome companies get shot down because the miss their mark by less than half a point and never fully recover while other companies trade at 50 times earning based on nuthin but hype. it was highly over valued. it was where people wanted it to be as it is now. it sunk to even things out. investments = output. investments = output my ass. more complete crap. we already went over this miles and your data is distorted garbage based on families of four and includes the income from all members. not so. the figures show the median income of individuals. not in the link that you provided to me back then. what you are saying makes no economic sense. its a reflection of individual salaries. salaries have gone up despite your liberal doom and gloom negative rhetoric. funny how none of the financial channels agree with you here. where is your proof if this crap is true then what exactly is the big deal that you are making about raising the minimum wage. if what you say is true nobody should be making that low wage any more or the number should be so few that it would make difference at all. sorry miles you cant have it both ways. other reports from the labor board clearly show that the new jobs are from higher paying job sectors and not burger flippers. lets see some links or are you going to use the buddist method of making the claim and then expect everyone else to do the work in reality the fast food and retail job markets have shown very little growth which proves your bs wrong. more complete bullshit and right wing spin. lowes home depot wallmart target and others are opening new stores every week. the only thing that is not growing there are the pay rates. what high paying companies have growth in the us like that. and you can blame that on the greed of the oil companies. high prices should make you happy. thats what causes consumers to conserve. lol no it causes consumers to do without and hurts the economy. if oil companies lowered their prices substantially then demand would jump up accordingly causing reserves to run dry. sadly that much is true. no thanks to the democrats causing no refinery building in almost 30 years. nice try miles but it has nothing to do with either political party. the republicans have been running the gubberment for the last 12 years and nothing built then either. they will not build more refineries for the simple reason that they would lose their ability to raise prices at will and then blame it on demand. even after catrenia when they were making huge profits and were given a green light to build they instead decided to upgrade their existing ones imagine that. and why is that miles perhaps because they are making so much more with reduced regulations and plain old fashoned greed. the fact is that they take far more than they pay. so what jealous someone can make more than you not at all but you have yet to be able to say exactly how someone can actually make $1000000 and more a year. i find it funny that you hate edwards when he really should be your idol with the wealth that he has accumulated. they already pay by far the biggest part of our total taxes and all you can ever say is that its not enough. so what they also take the largest amount of the money as well and far more than they pay back. youll never ever be happy with any rate as long as you perceive them to still be rich. once again nuthin but spin. giving the rich more money does not result in increased spending as by definition the tax cuts were not for the rich alone as you liberals seem to believe from the propaganda blasted at you. any flat tax cut is geared toward the rich and serves no purpose for the economy. look at the actual tax code now! almost everyone had their absurd clinton tax hikes rolled back to where they were...almost. the rich are still at a higher rate than they were prior to clintons hike. funny i dont recall my taxes going up all that much during clinton or going down all that much after bush either. the real tax cuts are only for the select few. the rest of us got nickels and dimes. bull. if you dont pay taxes then how can they be cut what in the hel

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. how many follow it as it is written all of them. nope. some add to whats in the scripotures some detract and some claim the bible is wrong. how can that last one be christian being a christian means nothing more than accepting the lord as your savior and knowing that the only way to heaven is thru jesus christ. if you act like anyone else in the world how is anyone else supposed to recognize you as being a christian imho you do not act like a christian by any stretch of the meaning of the word. i am a christian and i dont believe the stories of the old testemant as fact. if it were thur then where is eaden where did all of the water go after the great flood and how exactly did the different races form again eden was destroyed in the flood of noah not that any humans were ever allowed back in. even the current tigris and euphrates rivers do not match the ones in genesis. before the flood the highest point on the earth according to christian scholars was 15 meters high about 49.22 feet high when the flood ended the mountains and hills rose up and drained the water the sea floors dropped to receive it. recent studies by christian scientists demonstrate the mechanics of rapid drainage resulting in places like the grand canyon. the is but one race the human race the skin colorations physical characteristics and so on are from climatic adaption and genetic degradation according to christian scientists www.answersingenesis.org has the full articles for these questions as for adding to the scriptures you are doing that yourself with you distorted interpretation of the sermon on the mount. you discard the old testament and you have the audacity to accuse me of corrupting scriptures pkb tom. your doing something worrisome miles. you keep repeating the same mantra expecting me to admit to what you say. its not true what you are sdaying its your misunderstanding of what was said. hmm...you keep repeating your bs expecting to teach people here. hows it working so far depends on who want s to learn doesnt it and once again you make the claim that you are the only correct one. the problem here budd is that nobody can trust you because you prove over and over such as in the battery thread that even if you are proven wrong on anything you just deny it so why would this be any different. you didnt prove me wrong as you didnt do the math you just listed a bunch of formulae to make yourself look important. there is no need to do the specific math budd. the equations themselves all the proof that is needed.and if you knew even 1/100th of what uyou claim to you would know it to be true. instead you said that i was too long winded and that you didnt read it which is all honesty the words of a bitter and ignorant man and hardly a christian thing to do. look whos suddenly a christian and knows how a christian should act. what denomination are you all you were doing was trying to make yourself look important and puff up your pathetic ego. as for your claim about me all i said was that learning depends on the desire the wanting to learn. like miles you refuse the authors interpretation. unless you are the author htf do you know what the authors interpretation actually is the answer is that you dont. so you are incapable of understanding what is written as it is written its in the book of matthew and was said by jesus. sorry budd. i do not believe the bible instructs you to destroy anyone who doesnt believe your way. now youre starting to give credibility to such atrocities as the crusades. now youre stretching things too far out of perspective because of your biases and refusals to see what was written as anything except what you want it to be. which is and always was exactly the same thing you do!!! no i accept gods guidance to what his word means; you otoh refuse my meanings and substitute your own. maybe that why you dont understand the bible . . . i know that your demented mind tells you that you have some direct link with the lord but in reality you dont have a clue. iow you dont believe in answered prayer then how did you gain salvation if you didnt pray and ask for it and you never pray when was the last time you cried out indespiration oh god help me! i refuse your meanings because as everyone else in here and i would suspect in every other group that you are a member of thinks you are full of shit and dont have a clue. and then you accuse me of false interpretation remove the word false out of that sentence and you have the real truth. why it is the exact meaning of what you wrote. no interpretations no

From : miles

tbone wrote the market is always where it should be. not so at all. the market should reflect close to a companies worth. in the 90s people invested millions into companies that only existed on paper and never any produced a single product or service. the market was not where it should be. it was highly over valued. it sunk to even things out. investments = output. more complete crap. we already went over this miles and your data is distorted garbage based on families of four and includes the income from all members. not so. the figures show the median income of individuals. its a reflection of individual salaries. salaries have gone up despite your liberal doom and gloom negative rhetoric. other reports from the labor board clearly show that the new jobs are from higher paying job sectors and not burger flippers. in reality the fast food and retail job markets have shown very little growth which proves your bs wrong. and you can blame that on the greed of the oil companies. high prices should make you happy. thats what causes consumers to conserve. if oil companies lowered their prices substantially then demand would jump up accordingly causing reserves to run dry. no thanks to the democrats causing no refinery building in almost 30 years. and why is that miles perhaps because they are making so much more with reduced regulations and plain old fashoned greed. the fact is that they take far more than they pay. so what jealous someone can make more than you they already pay by far the biggest part of our total taxes and all you can ever say is that its not enough. youll never ever be happy with any rate as long as you perceive them to still be rich. giving the rich more money does not result in increased spending as by definition the tax cuts were not for the rich alone as you liberals seem to believe from the propaganda blasted at you. look at the actual tax code now! almost everyone had their absurd clinton tax hikes rolled back to where they were...almost. the rich are still at a higher rate than they were prior to clintons hike. the real tax cuts are only for the select few. the rest of us got nickels and dimes. bull. if you dont pay taxes then how can they be cut the more you pay the larger $ wise a cut would become. doesnt take rocket science here tbone. fact remains that after the cuts the rich now pay a higher % of total taxes paid out than before. only one way for that to happen tbone. do the math. you just hate the rich. no tax rate is high enough for you to apply to them. tax revenues continue to grow substantially since the cuts. .

From : tbone

ron wrote yes and it is way over valued. the market was over valued in the .com balloon economy of the 90s. its now where it should be. the market is always where it should be. yes if you like to work at a minimum wage job. nice try. the median income has risen substantially meaning the new jobs created are well above minimum wage. more complete crap. we already went over this miles and your data is distorted garbage based on families of four and includes the income from all members. while it is possible that some of these families have a member that is now making more it is far more likely that the wage earner lost his / her job and could only find one at a considerably less amount of money forcing another family member to get a job to make up the lost money. while the family is making more its expenses are also increased and may in many cases result in a decreased amount of disposable income not to mention the reduced quality of life. now if you have actual proof of these wage increases then please lets see it. come on !! oil prices have fallen considerably recently. gas prices havent though. and you can blame that on the greed of the oil companies. taxes are at 20-year lows. a new direction from there means what if you say so but only for the really wealthy. that would be a liberal democrat myth. taxes are low for almost everyone. the total tax bite paid by the wealthy increased as a % of all taxes collected. something the liberals dont want to admit. and why is that miles perhaps because they are making so much more with reduced regulations and plain old fashoned greed. the fact is that they take far more than they pay. i think you had better do more research on this. nope. that would be you! tax revenues have skyrocketed since the tax cuts. many liberals dont seem to comprehend what drives tax revenues and think its directly tied to tax rates only. tax revenues increase as spending increases far more than that achieved by tax hikes especially if the tax hikes cause lower spending. giving the rich more money does not result in increased spending as by definition rich people already make far more than they spend. the real truth is that with these new tax rates and the amnesty being offered the rich are finding it to be a better deal to pay up rather than hiding and cheating their way around it. i guess you dont buy food gas or buy health insurance. those items are figured into the inflation figures just the same as they always have. inflation is flat. but the cost of living is not. how about the cost of fuel even with low oil prices. here in nc the gas companies are raping the people even with record heat and low demand. health insurance is climbing at an alarming rate despite your bullshit link to inflation. we has mini terrorist attacks every day in all the major cities and a lot of then come from within. name these so called terrorist attacks on usa soil. i think we are getting as many or our troops faces blown off as they are but we have another war to the east that is not getting any better. are you serious you think only 3000 terrorist insurgents have been killed show me the actual numbers then. what tax breaks how wealthy are you the vast majority are paying lower taxes now than they were in the 90s despite the democrats and liberals propaganda about the cuts only being for a select few. the real tax cuts are only for the select few. the rest of us got nickels and dimes. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

ok 74 amps at idle 165 amps at 2500 rpm is the test result. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels are those numbers with a vat 40 load test how steady did voltage stay -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. isnt vat 40 about 30 years old now thats what we were using before i got out of that racket. remember the vat 28 the inductive pickup on the 40 was a big deal to us. yes the vat 40 is old but it is a true resistive load test. these little micro junk things im not personally sure i entirely trust to diagnose an alternator. the vat 28 is a little well ok maybe more than a little before my time. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : budd cochran

im going to replace the fuel filter on my 92 ram 150. the fuel filter unlike most newer trucks is located outside of the tank. pretty easy to get to. is there any pressure in the fuel lines at the filter i should know about thanks yes but its not a big problem. you can bleed the pressure off under the hood or just wrap a rag around the hose when you pull it off the filter. the filter hoses are swaged on. you have to cut the swaged part off the hose and use hose clamps to put the new filter on. or cut and replace the hoses. al .

From : Annonymous

im going to replace the fuel filter on my 92 ram 150. the fuel filter unlike most newer trucks is located outside of the tank. pretty easy to get to. is there any pressure in the fuel lines at the filter i should know about thanks .

From : budd cochran

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From : nosey

you giving it away if so i will take it! you have to reply 4 more times for him to hear you .

From : miles

http//hackensackhigh.org/light.html the point is that light is no longer a constant its a variable. i didnt know they did that. i was refering to http//www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/02.18/light.html if mortal man can slow it down or stop it why cant a true god speed it up a true god wouldnt have to. -- ken .

From : john kunkel

here is the math 55ah battery. a high quality battery decays at about 15-20% per year in available ah amp hours. you need about 20% of initial ah left to start truck if it starts quickly. flasher/stop/turn bulbs are 25 watts each while parking lights are 3 watts each. say you have two bulbs in front and 2 each on each rear light assembly for a total of 6 bulbs flashing. 25x6=150 watts 150 watts/12 volts=12.5 amps when they are lit. if they are only lit 50% of the time then you have an average of 6.25 amps. now assuming you did not leave the ignition on or the parking lights on and the battery is fully charged and battery is only a year old. 55ahx80%=44ah need 20% to start =11ah so you have 33ah left 33ah/6.25a = 5.3 hours till it will not start truck. since you said you have replaced the battery twice lately either your alternator is not furnishing enough current or the battery voltage during charge is too low to fully charge the battery or you have a high constant drain of something left on discharging the battery. check the battery drain current with everything off it should be less than 0.030 amps. the battery voltage during charge should be 13.8 to 14.1 volts at 70f with the voltage increasing at 0.020 volts per f degree below 70f. check the alternator output under load. something is wrong besides the battery. john f on sat 13 jan 2007 023356 -0500 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote ok...lets talk about batteries since maybe this one is a turd. its an optima with 870 ca 750 cca 55 ah and 120 rc. i wouldnt think hazard lights would be that much of a drain on this battery given all the hype on them....but maybe im wrong. what batteries have you guys used and what are your opinions. .

From : budd cochran

5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. and when have i written / posted any prayers in this group 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. this is true. budd the quoted text wasnt aimed at you in particular but bible-thumpers in general. gathering in a church to pray enmasse clearly violates 5 but im sure and your ilk can find contradicting text; thus is the nature of an ambiguous text. when we pray as a body in christ in church only one person usually leads the prayer a pastor or deacon. no one in the denominations ive attended southern baptist evangelical free church makes a lot of noise about how they are better than another which is what the verse is really about what part of for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men dont you understand. pay particular attention to the may be seen by men part. praying in your closet kjv is simply a metaphor for praying with your heart soul and spirit not your mouth. so says you. others would think it means exactly what it says; private prayer is preferable to public prayer. no i dont have a contradictory verse but this proves the verses are to be literally read and understood. btw the hypocrites refers to the pharasees and their tendency to shout to god about how few sins they have made since their last prayer ... as if he is hard of hearing oy! again so says you. the dictionary definition of hypocrite is more apropos. .

From : budd cochran

http//hackensackhigh.org/light.html the point is that light is no longer a constant its a variable. i didnt know they did that. i was refering to http//www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/02.18/light.html i was surprised to read about either of them as id always been taught it was a constant completely beyond any variable except wen passing thru other medias like a prism. if mortal man can slow it down or stop it why cant a true god speed it up a true god wouldnt have to. -- ken maybe he didnt and just created in route. even that would be possible for god. in creationism there are admittedlty many possibilities concerning light for example but there are also many things that just cannot fit an old earth scenario either like petrified trees that cross archaeological layers the 14 miles of uneroded sandstone layers outside my window with no signs in them from streams and rivers. scientists are finding new fossils already forming in the mud lake after mt. st. helens blew yet the material that was left uncovered has disappeared for the most part. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

and nowhere does it say to judge them either so this is just another one of your distorted interpretations. but answer this budd what classifies another as a believer answer this if a chrisitan doesnt judge the unbelievers then how will they determine if they are unsaved you for example judge me all the time concerning my postings etc.in the group read other comments on my skills and knowledge yet refuse to concede that i have any knowledge or skill. christians and non-believers look at each other listen to comments about them and make decisions judgemets based on that. christ taught that christians should not judge each other. you like miles are substituting what you want my words to say for what is written in spite of regardless of and in contempt of any correction i offer. im not listing my beliefs as you are completely untrustworthy. im confident youll twist substitute and outright lie to prove your point the old dont cast your pearls before swine verse applies i believe. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote link huh i said there was never anything ever written contemporary to jesus time nor anything written by anyone who ever met him. there are no links of such writings because they dont exist!! what does no they never wrote a thing. or just those particular writings were all conveniently lost. mean you claimed they could be convieniently lost. your evidence matthew mark john paul. it takes but one eyewitness to convict a murderer here you have four that met him personally. they penned part of the bible contemporary to jesus time duh!! they were eyewitnesses to his ministry talked with his mother brothers and possible sisters. john wrote the book of revelations on the isle of patmos while in exile and lived well long enough to have been interviewed by one of the roman historians or an agent to one. paul experienced him on the road to damascas and later declared that jesus actually was present at the incident. and are those scholars christian or secular theologians ah yes a biased theologian is the only correct one right there are no other possibilities accept those you believe in. what part of hypothesis do you not understand thats all any of it is. nothing more. and what destroys hypothesis evidence verfied evidence unless you choose to reject any evidence contrary to the hypothesis. who would be less biased a secular theologian that doesnt want there to be any gods or a godly theologian that believes that if he doesnt tell it exactly according to available evidence hell be answering to god for it the available evidence points to the latter as the more accurate scenario. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote how many follow it as it is written to them they do just the same as you feel you do. you just cant accept the fact that other christians disagree with you. the bible says to look at the evidence of their lives the fruits. depends on who want s to learn doesnt it you are one who does not wish to learn. you fail to realize you are just a pupil. we all learn from each other. i am a student of god not man. if the bible says one thing and an earthly fallible teacher contradicts it which is correct now youre stretching things too far out of perspective because of your biases and refusals to see what was written as anything except what you want it to be. that would be you budd. you fail to realize that you are doing what everyone does. interpret the bible their own way. and my point is simple the bible does not need human intepretation its correct in all its meanings already. by whos rules by what is written in the bible i am a christian. thats the guidlines i go by. to them they are going by the guidelines set in the bible the same way you say you do. they are christians as well and you are not the one to decide or judge. i never said i am but that goes back to you refusing to read what i actually say and substitute what you want for it. and what did you say a person was when they dont accept other possibilities it applies to you also. i accept all possibilities and discuss and learn from all every day. but youre not. you substitute your words and meanings for mine all through this thread. you on the other hand feel you know whats right and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong including other christians. no i said i have what is right sitting on the shelf by my computer installed as a study program on my computer and its name is the bible. but youll manipulate that stement to suit yourself. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

it feels exactly like that trying to explain anything to him. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on sun 14 jan 2007 011245 -0500 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. you would have better luck teaching nuclear physics to a bunch of retards. beekeep .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote link huh i said there was never anything ever written contemporary to jesus time nor anything written by anyone who ever met him. there are no links of such writings because they dont exist!! matthew mark john paul. it takes but one eyewitness to convict a murderer here you have four that met him personally. they penned part of the bible contemporary to jesus time and are those scholars christian or secular theologians ah yes a biased theologian is the only correct one right there are no other possibilities accept those you believe in. what part of hypothesis do you not understand thats all any of it is. nothing more. .

From : miles

see budd i told you that i may have denounced organized religion but i am still a roman catholic i still have a bible i still read it so you may want to think twice before you continue to mince words with those that do have the ability to out smart you and to continue to prove you wrong. like i said before dude where have you been hiding do you really think that is matters at all to chucky if you might actually know something or know more than he does of course not as in his own little mind he knows more than anyone on anything and even when flat out proven wrong he just denies it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

budd cochran wrote when i stated that teaching depended on those willing to learn that included you but you dont want to be bothered with truth or learning truth either do you because budd you are a friggn lousy self righteous teacher!! i learn from people i respect. that respect has to be mutual and for you budd it cant be because you have zero respect for anyone who disagrees with you. therefore until you learn to respect others you will never gain the respect of them. teaching is a mutual thing. you teach and you learn. youre not better than anyone else so quit trying to be. you can learn a ton from others if you allowed yourself too. .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote how many follow it as it is written to them they do just the same as you feel you do. you just cant accept the fact that other christians disagree with you. depends on who want s to learn doesnt it you are one who does not wish to learn. you fail to realize you are just a pupil. we all learn from each other. now youre stretching things too far out of perspective because of your biases and refusals to see what was written as anything except what you want it to be. that would be you budd. you fail to realize that you are doing what everyone does. interpret the bible their own way. by whos rules by what is written in the bible i am a christian. thats the guidlines i go by. to them they are going by the guidelines set in the bible the same way you say you do. they are christians as well and you are not the one to decide or judge. and what did you say a person was when they dont accept other possibilities it applies to you also. i accept all possibilities and discuss and learn from all every day. you on the other hand feel you know whats right and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong including other christians. .

From : tbone

though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. who says i am in the wrong budd you! ha!!! ye shall not judge unless willing to be judged.

From : miles

poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is permitted.. i have judged no other christians but i have mentioned differences in beliefs as compared to the bible. i want you to quote chapter and verse from any version of the bible where it supports your claims that you have the right to judge any non christian religion! wait you cant and i know that to be fact because no where in any version does it say that. prove me wrong if you think you can! book of matthew the sermon on the mount. its directed to believers those sitting on the hillside. they are told not to judge each other. nowhere does it say to not judge unbelievers. and nowhere does it say to judge them either so this is just another one of your distorted interpretations. but answer this budd what classifies another as a believer budd you are the wrong person to be making judgements on anyone. you may proclaim to be following the word of the lord buy you are absolutely hypocritical. you dont not teach the good word you ram it on people. if youre not a christian then i do have the biblical right to judge. i want you to quote chapter and verse from any version of the bible where it supports your claims that you have the right to judge any non christian religion! wait you cant and i know that to be fact because no where in any version does it say that. prove me wrong if you think you can! i just did but youll reject it as usual. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 328247 orkdnzigpkpt4jbynz2dnuvzq2pnz2d@comcast.com budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. how many follow it as it is written all of them. your doing something worrisome miles. you keep repeating the same mantra expecting me to admit to what you say. its not true what you are sdaying its your misunderstanding of what was said. hmm...you keep repeating your bs expecting to teach people here. hows it working so far depends on who want s to learn doesnt it and once again you make the claim that you are the only correct one. the problem here budd is that nobody can trust you because you prove over and over such as in the battery thread that even if you are proven wrong on anything you just deny it so why would this be any different. its in the book of matthew and was said by jesus. sorry budd. i do not believe the bible instructs you to destroy anyone who doesnt believe your way. now youre starting to give credibility to such atrocities as the crusades. now youre stretching things too far out of perspective because of your biases and refusals to see what was written as anything except what you want it to be. which is and always was exactly the same thing you do!!! and then you accuse me of false interpretation remove the word false out of that sentence and you have the real truth. great then they can deem you non-christian just as you do with others. you do not act christian therefore you are a non-christian. by whos rules by what is written in the bible i am a christian. thats the guidlines i go by. other christians say the same thing only they dont share your views. is it your belief that since they dont agree with your religious views that they must be wrong since you are always right is it your belief that anyone who disagrees with your religious beliefs must not be christian how is it possible that two christians who both say they live their lives by the bible disagree on many issues ya i know. theyre wrong because you are always right. and what did you say a person was when they dont accept other possibilities it applies to you also. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

my sb 41 picks are the bears vs.. colts ok now ill jump on the patriots bandwagon.... they gotta be better than the colts. happy now roy bg denny .

From : denny

ok now ill jump on the patriots bandwagon.... they gotta be better than the colts. happy now roy bg denny .

From : budd cochran

i got a dodge ram 1500 5.9 with a 3inch body 35inch tires magnaflow dual exhaust 180 degree thermostat and looking to boost some horsepower to around 300 from stock motor. i dont believe that cold one word cummins air intake throttle spacer magnets or addive stuff. i am looking more towards real power like headers manifolds roller rockers and camshafts. if anyone knows how to easily get some extra horses in this area please let me know. i only 17 and just startin to learn about trucks motors etc.... .

From : budd cochran

thanks. i appreciate that. budd will let you guys know what the diagnosis is. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels well youll find out who is right or not when you do the tests and/or the repairs laszlo. i wish you luck. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote again it wasnt a spectacular event it was the birth of a child to a poor couple in a stable. hmm...according to the bible it attracted quite a bit of attention. to a few selected to observe it the local shepards and two years later the wise men but it wasnt in the local paper. and some did im sure hence the severe punishments for being christian. no they never wrote a thing. or just those particular writings were all conveniently lost. link i wasnt there nor where you so dont pretend to know something you cant. pretend ok show me who wrote anything about jesus contemporary to his own time. show me who wrote anything about jesus who actually met him. matthew mark john paul. it takes but one eyewitness to convict a murderer here you have four that met him personally. so this makes matt slick less the scholar or accurate or any other fundamental scholars it only proves that your sources are not in agreement with the exact word of god as it is written. you keep telling us how its all 100% accurate when in fact scholars do not agree with each other on the origins of the bible. nobody knows for certain who what when and where it was written. different scholars have different hypothesis and nothing more. and are those scholars christian or secular theologians budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote if i see christ in someone i have no doubts that they are christian but when it comes to those that use profanity get drunk regularly lust after other women then theres not enough evidence to give them a warning ticket if chritianity were made illegal.. so everyone you complain about here must use profanity get drunk regularly and lust after other women careful budd. you maybe incorrectly judging other christians simply because they do not share your warped version of it. did i say everyone or did i say those that use . . . . as for my methods christ cleared the moneychangers from the temple with a whip. he set that example to use if needed. and the bible says we are to follow his examples in every way. once again you excuse holy wars as just following the bibles instructions. and once again you twist redefine and reinterpret to suit your needs to destroy me. rant on miles rant on. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote book of matthew the sermon on the mount. its directed to believers those sitting on the hillside. they are told not to judge each other. nowhere does it say to not judge unbelievers. what about you judging other christians you do not share the same views as you oh ya i forgot. they cant be christians if they dont agree with your interpretation of the bible. when i stated that teaching depended on those willing to learn that included you but you dont want to be bothered with truth or learning truth either do you budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

rochester ny. saturday night freezing rain. coated all over my steps front walk and vehicles. more freezing rain the steps were coated when i got home in the evening. more freezing rain predicted for sunday going into monday. freezing rain is what pulls down the wires and gives us power blackouts. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . hehehehehehe yall keep the cold stuff up there. it was mid 70s today and tonights low is sposed to be 55. mondays forecast is sposed to be the same though tuesday we are sposed to take a dip because tuesdays high isnt any higher than mondays low of 52 forecasted. but the low isnt forecasted to be all that low mid 30s *grin* middle ga -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. ha caught that typo before roy did!!!!!! .

From : denny

rochester ny. saturday night freezing rain. coated all over my steps front walk and vehicles. more freezing rain the steps were coated when i got home in the evening. more freezing rain predicted for sunday going into monday. freezing rain is what pulls down the wires and gives us power blackouts. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. .

From : denny

ok now ill jump on the patriots bandwagon.... they gotta be better than the colts. happy now roy bg that was a hell of a game! although it was a bit sloppy. i hope the super bowl is as good no matter who plays. i think right now the pats are the team. they seem to get into mannings head although the colts won the last time they met. no excuses but a goodly portion of the pats were injured when they last played. boy what balls! are ya sure ya want to jump ongbfg roy denny .

From : azwiley1

on sun 14 jan 2007 011245 -0500 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. you would have better luck teaching nuclear physics to a bunch of retards. beekeep .

From : miles

welcome to the group -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. greets all. just wandered in having recently acquired a 99 1500 qc 4x4 5.9l auto. ive enjoyed reading the various threads covering different performance and service issues with these trucks and hope ill be able to contribute in some small way as my own experience grows. everything is relative...or relevant i can never remember which. in any case this truck is a farm truck and as such is a major step up from the 30 year old chevy 2x we just got rid of. the only reason we decided on another 4x4 having had the bug some 30 years ago already was we live very remotely in the siskiyou forest and get snowed in for a few days at a time a few times each winter. nothing too severe but at our age late 50s if something happened to one of us wed need to be able to get out regardless of road conditions. in any case compared to what im accustomed to this truck is almost as nice as grammas new maxie...almost. i havent any plans to trick it out aside from some kind of bed cover and getting the tranny bullet-proofed at the local shop a set of headers and cat-back system a blue-tooth capable cd-deck and some nerf....oh hell never mind. ;- anyway drinks are on me and thanks for keepin a light on. wolfie .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote again it wasnt a spectacular event it was the birth of a child to a poor couple in a stable. hmm...according to the bible it attracted quite a bit of attention. and some did im sure hence the severe punishments for being christian. no they never wrote a thing. or just those particular writings were all conveniently lost. i wasnt there nor where you so dont pretend to know something you cant. pretend ok show me who wrote anything about jesus contemporary to his own time. show me who wrote anything about jesus who actually met him. so this makes matt slick less the scholar or accurate or any other fundamental scholars it only proves that your sources are not in agreement with the exact word of god as it is written. you keep telling us how its all 100% accurate when in fact scholars do not agree with each other on the origins of the bible. nobody knows for certain who what when and where it was written. different scholars have different hypothesis and nothing more. .

From : miles

well youll find out who is right or not when you do the tests and/or the repairs laszlo. i wish you luck. budd well so much for this thread. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels they are not insults budd they are accurate observations. even when faced with simple science and freshman algebra disproving what you say you are still not man enough to admit that you were wrong. at least that part about you has never changed. perhaps you should not answer peoples questions as your lack of knowledge and cowardice to admit to even a simple error may get someone injured or killed and cause serious damage to their vehicle. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you resort to insults . . . budd budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you were too long winded anyway so i gnored it. tom i dont care how you manipulate formulae to suit your pupose you are wrong the battery will drain faster due to a heavier load it will not charge sufficiently if there is too much circuit resistance and that will add to his problem. good lord almighty!! budd sorry once again budd but it really doesnt work that way. while it is true that a bulb converts electrical energy into heat and light it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. i could go into a long winded explanation but you would just ignore it so ill just use some simple equations. i take it that you are familiar with ohms law where voltage represented by e in the equation e = i * r with i being current and r being resistance. power can also be calculated as p = e * i where once again e being voltage and i being current. using these equations the current flow in a circuit i can be calculated if the voltage e and resistance r are known by rewriting the formula as i = e / r. i probably shouldnt need to go any further but since it is you i will. as you should know if you increase the size of the denominator in a fraction its value goes down not up. for an example if our battery is putting out 12v and we have 6 ohms of resistance in our imaginary circuit lets say the bulb using ohms calculation of i = e / r we have i = 12 / 6 which equals 2 amps. now we will make our connections really dirty and for the sake of keeping the math simple for you they are so dirty they add another 6 ohms and effectively double the resistance to our circuit. now our calculation comes out to i = 12 / 12 which is the original bulb plus our really dirty connection and now the current flow is just 1 amp. since the capacity of a battery is measured in amp hours it should be obvious to you that the added resistance will allow the battery to go twice as long. as for power or p we can calculate that as well. in our first example the battery put out 12 volts and 2 amps were passing thru our circuit so p = e * i or p = 12 * 2 which means our bulb was providing 24 watts of light. with our second example that included you dirty connections p now equals 12 * 1 where the current was effectively cut in half due to the added resistance which means our bulb is now only providing 12 watts of light so as i said in the previous post resistance in his connections will extend the life of his battery but at a reduced light output. of course these simple calculations make assumptions about the characteristics of a light bulb that are not completely accurate but that has nothing to do with the point being made and that is adding resistance to a series circuit with a fixed voltage reduces the current draw and power of the circuit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving power = energy. resistance conventional light bulbs in this case converts energy into heat and disapates it. energy is used to heat the filaments it is lost to the battery. dirty connections also heat up as they are resistances. burn a 12v bulb for a few minutes and stick you tongue to it if you dont think power is being converted to heat. budd how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it

From : miles

man has learned how to slow down and even stop light something einstein would have said was impossible . . .so why cant a true living god snap his godly fingers figuratively speaking and make it speed up not that it matters much but man has only slowed light not stopped it. its done with laser cooling. the process is called the bose-einstein condensation. einstein wouldnt have said it was impossible. he had much to do with it. -- ken http//hackensackhigh.org/light.html the point is that light is no longer a constant its a variable. if mortal man can slow it down or stop it why cant a true god speed it up budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

geekboy wrote nor really. in my diesel with 3.73 rear end i get 21 mpg on higway and 18 city driving. if it still had the original 3.54 it would be 25 mpg on highway. then there is a better engine quality. with the cummins you are getting an engine that should last 500k miles compared to maybe 200k with the gas engine. only plus benefits with the diesels. more power longer lasting greater fuel enconomy and better resell value. they cost $5000+ over a gasser. its overkill for someone that has no use for the power of the diesel. ie not towing or hauling heavy loads. a man can never have too much power now for the tim allen growl -arrgh arrgh. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote the records are from interviews of eyewitnesses. i ask you again. why for such a spectacular even did not a single person write a word about it during jesus time again it wasnt a spectacular event it was the birth of a child to a poor couple in a stable. it was considered to be heresy among the jews punishable by death sedition among the romans punishable by death. the romans could have written about jesus from their own point of view. and some did im sure hence the severe punishments for being christian. not that long after. john the beloved lived until the time of josephus easily. hmm...you mean someone wrote about jesus shortly after his death even though it was punishable by death scholars of the time could have written about jesus during his time from their own legal perspective. i wasnt there nor where you so dont pretend to know something you cant. the historical evidence is complete enough to prove the facts of the life death and resurrection. man has learned how to slow down and even stop light something einstein would have said was impossible . . .so why cant a true living god snap his godly fingers figuratively speaking and make it speed up there were some experiments a couple years ago that in effect slowed light down by passing it through a particular gas. the light did not actually slow down. it bounced off the gas molecules thus not taking a direct route to the other end of the tube and giving the effect of being slowed. now why would god speed up light to create an entire universe in one day ... use a little logic miles. this is the best collection of information on the matter. http//www.carm.org/evidence.htm spend a little time there. yes budd i am well aware that website is your source of proof. any scholar who comes to a different conclusion is deemed wrong by you. i say again scholars do not agree on the exact creation of the bible. they do not agree as to exactly who what when and where each portion was written. so this makes matt slick less the scholar or accurate or any other fundamental scholars it only proves that your sources are not in agreement with the exact word of god as it is written. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote if i see christ in someone i have no doubts that they are christian but when it comes to those that use profanity get drunk regularly lust after other women then theres not enough evidence to give them a warning ticket if chritianity were made illegal.. so everyone you complain about here must use profanity get drunk regularly and lust after other women careful budd. you maybe incorrectly judging other christians simply because they do not share your warped version of it. as for my methods christ cleared the moneychangers from the temple with a whip. he set that example to use if needed. and the bible says we are to follow his examples in every way. once again you excuse holy wars as just following the bibles instructions. .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote book of matthew the sermon on the mount. its directed to believers those sitting on the hillside. they are told not to judge each other. nowhere does it say to not judge unbelievers. what about you judging other christians you do not share the same views as you oh ya i forgot. they cant be christians if they dont agree with your interpretation of the bible. .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand all christians follow the bible their own way. your problem is that if they dont follow it your way then they must not be christians. your doing something worrisome miles. you keep repeating the same mantra expecting me to admit to what you say. its not true what you are sdaying its your misunderstanding of what was said. hmm...you keep repeating your bs expecting to teach people here. hows it working so far its in the book of matthew and was said by jesus. sorry budd. i do not believe the bible instructs you to destroy anyone who doesnt believe your way. now youre starting to give credibility to such atrocities as the crusades. great then they can deem you non-christian just as you do with others. you do not act christian therefore you are a non-christian. by whos rules by what is written in the bible i am a christian. thats the guidlines i go by. other christians say the same thing only they dont share your views. is it your belief that since they dont agree with your religious views that they must be wrong since you are always right is it your belief that anyone who disagrees with your religious beliefs must not be christian how is it possible that two christians who both say they live their lives by the bible disagree on many issues ya i know. theyre wrong because you are always right. .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote praying in your closet kjv is simply a metaphor for praying with your heart soul and spirit not your mouth. no i dont have a contradictory verse but this proves the verses are to be literally read and understood. metephor and literally are now synonyms too funny. .

From : budd cochran

creeping up is usually a symptom of a severely discharged battery or a defective alternator but if it is reaching 14 volts at that point the battery is getting all that it needs. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving this is the 3rd/4th battery. the first one oem completely crapped out quite some time ago. i replaced that with a battery from batteries plus their brand which was a mistake. they replace it with an optima red top and i just paid the difference so it wasnt a big deal til that one died....than i was a tad pissed. i do have an aftermarket stereo that does draw a lot of current but i figureded at the level im pushing it the stock charging system woud be enough. im going to have that checked out this week and will go from there. on a side note ive been watching my voltage gauge on start up and if i recall it always jumped right up to 14 volts or so as soon as started. now it seems to creep up rather slowly so im thinking maybe i have a charging issue. been wanting a high output alternator anyway so maybe its time to start looking. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels well so much for this thread. nah denny was correct and t bone was right ya have to see how much draw ya have. $ ways shouldnt wipe the batteries out. sounds like your on your 4th battery in what 5 years something aint right roy .

From : budd cochran

though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. who says i am in the wrong budd you! ha!!! ye shall not judge unless willing to be judged. poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is p

From : denny

denny wrote i was sitting here reading some of the last few days of posts and the thought crossed my mind shut up roy about how in the good ole days the pissing matches were about what was the best type of torque wrench. that seems a little tame compared to this. went up to cabelas a couple of weeks ago and picked up a lee aniversary reloading kit. nothing fancy to it its just a basic reloading kit for getting started. im not too into guns. just have one for shooting down at the range now and then. ive found over the last couple of years that there is no such thing as having only one gun. one is never enough. ya gotta have long ones short ones ones with big holes in the end one with smaller holes some that shoot slow and some that shoot fast some that makes lots of noise and some that are relativly quiet. then we get into black ones silver ones grey ones blue ones..... you get the idea.... bg then you beg your daughter to find the time to teach you how to shoot them accurately! gbfg roy .

From : john kunkel

denny wrote i was sitting here reading some of the last few days of posts and the thought crossed my mind shut up roy about how in the good ole days the pissing matches were about what was the best type of torque wrench. that seems a little tame compared to this. went up to cabelas a couple of weeks ago and picked up a lee aniversary reloading kit. nothing fancy to it its just a basic reloading kit for getting started. im not too into guns. just have one for shooting down at the range now and then. ive found over the last couple of years that there is no such thing as having only one gun. one is never enough. ya gotta have long ones short ones ones with big holes in the end one with smaller holes some that shoot slow and some that shoot fast some that makes lots of noise and some that are relativly quiet. then we get into black ones silver ones grey ones blue ones..... you get the idea.... bg todays gonna be spent going down to the auto store and buying a k&n filter for my truck. k&n will increase the suckage power of your engine. be careful starting it with little kids and pets nearby.. then i gotta rotate my tires. what torque wrench is recommended to use for torquing the lug nuts properly 3/4 impact with at least 200 psi running it..... denny .

From : chris thompson

budd cochran wrote making assumptions now if they dont follow the bible then there should be doubt about their faith follow the bible your way or their way budd which way oh ya your way is the only right way. im sorry what part of follow the bible is too hard for you to understand who was it not long ago was telling that my actions didnt fit the norm for christians to which i replied i wasnt like most christians hiding my light under a bushel. most christians dont make an ass of themselves nor do they lack complete respect for anyone who doesnt believe their way. your doing something worrisome miles. you keep repeating the same mantra expecting me to admit to what you say. its not true what you are sdaying its your misunderstanding of what was said. who was saying you could tell by their fruits if the fruit of a tree is rotten it gets cut down. hmm..sounds exactly like something the radical terrorist muslims would say. dont believe our way then well cut you down. good grief budd listen to yourself!! its in the book of matthew and was said by jesus. if the person acts like a person that is not a christian how can you tell if they are one you cant so they find themselves being treated like a non-christian. to many christians it is you who are not acting like a christian. and just above you said you dont act like most christians. yep. great then they can deem you non-christian just as you do with others. you do not act christian therefore you are a non-christian. by whos rules by what is written in the bible i am a christian. thats the guidlines i go by. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. and when have i written / posted any prayers in this group 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. this is true. budd the quoted text wasnt aimed at you in particular but bible-thumpers in general. gathering in a church to pray enmasse clearly violates 5 but im sure and your ilk can find contradicting text; thus is the nature of an ambiguous text. when we pray as a body in christ in church only one person usually leads the prayer a pastor or deacon. no one in the denominations ive attended southern baptist evangelical free church makes a lot of noise about how they are better than another which is what the verse is really about but instead ask for the lords guidance presence and blessings on all that are believers. occasionally we have prayers where individuals lead the prayer in rotation but still no one is praying aloud how they are more worthy than another. praying in your closet kjv is simply a metaphor for praying with your heart soul and spirit not your mouth. no i dont have a contradictory verse but this proves the verses are to be literally read and understood. btw the hypocrites refers to the pharasees and their tendency to shout to god about how few sins they have made since their last prayer ... as if he is hard of hearing oy! budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. and when have i written / posted any prayers in this group 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. this is true. budd the quoted text wasnt aimed at you in particular but bible-thumpers in general. gathering in a church to pray enmasse clearly violates 5 but im sure and your ilk can find contradicting text; thus is the nature of an ambiguous text. .

From : roy

1986 ramcharger 5.9l automatic truck runs fine and achieves 3rd gear at about 25 mph as the haynes manual says it should. problem is that it does this even if i have the accelerator floored. i cant hold first gear past the normal point for light accelerator same goes for 2nd gear. further i cant get a downshift from flooring it at cruise speed in any gear. as i understand it from the manual there is no vacuum involved with this engine/tranny combo but rather it is all mechanical. i would appreciate a confirmation on that fact. if that is the case it would seem that there is a significant adjustment to be made with the throttle rod. the upshift speeds are indeed controlled by mechanical means either linkage or a cable. if the wot upshift speeds have always been low it might just need a simple linkage adjustment but if this condition has occured suddenly suspect some sort of breakage on the linkage. have someone sit in the vehicle and floor the throttle; from under the hood push rearward on the linkage if there is more than 1/8-1/4 of travel remaining in the linkage adjust the top rod lengthen it. a common failure point is the weld that connects the vertical throttle shaft to the cam plate in the transmission valve body the broken weld prevents the linkage movement from reaching the throttle valve that controls the upshift speed. this weld can be checked by disconnecting the linkage from the top transmission lever and manually running the lever through the range of its travel. there should be distint stops at each end of the levers travel if there is any lost motion slop in the levers travel the weld has broken. .

From : azwiley1

larry your forgetting buddism......... though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. who says i am in the wrong budd you! ha!!! ye shall not judge unless willing to be judged. poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is permitted.. i have judged no other christians but i have mentioned differences in beliefs as compared to the bible. i want you to quote chapter and verse from any version of the bible where it supports your claims that you have the right to judge any non christian religion! wait you cant and i know that to be fact because no where in any version does it say that. prove me wrong if you think you can! budd you are the wrong person to be making judgements on anyone. you may proclaim to be following the word of the lord buy you are absolutely hypocritical. you dont not teach the good word you ram it on people. if youre not a christian then i do have the biblical right to judge. i want you to quote chapter and verse from any version of the bible where it supports your claims that you have the right to judge any non christian religion! wait you cant and i know that to be fact because no where in any version does it say that. prove me wrong if you think you can! i am not christian never have been never will but unlike you want to make everyone sound i am not a bigoted heathen destine to burn in hell just because you say so and because i make an ass out of myself like you every time i open my mouth about religion. that is your choice but thank god my place in heaven is not determined by any earthly person so judge me all you want its all ashes. as for the rest . . . .whatever. exactly whatever. we most be back in 1st grade now.. typical you ignore most everything and read into what is left. if only you would treat what is typed to you in heere like you claim you do the bible and not inturrept it but instead read it as it appears on your screen. well that could be done if the words werent twisted in meaning to begin with. like you i am allowed to chose what to read or not read to respond as i choose right so since you want to continue the tirade even though you have no legitimate claim to do so in this thread why do i have to read all your drivel obviously you pick what to read out of mine. oh whats that you do read it all and only respond to what you want maybe im doing the same thing larry. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

on sat 13 jan 2007 231711 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. who says i am in the wrong budd you! ha!!! ye shall not judge unless willing to be judged. poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is permitted.. i gotta get a rule book. this is so hard to follow. there is no need for a rule book my friend. all one must do is embrace buddism. when you hide behind buddism the first rule is there are no rules. whatever your thought is however foolish what you say is it matters not because with buddism you are always correct and everybody else is wrong! actually you are a hair away from being described as a bigot. but as you say for pure entertainment value this has got to be the best of them yet .

From : Annonymous

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From : roy

this is the 3rd/4th battery. the first one oem completely crapped out quite some time ago. i replaced that with a battery from batteries plus their brand which was a mistake. they replace it with an optima red top and i just paid the difference so it wasnt a big deal til that one died....than i was a tad pissed. i do have an aftermarket stereo that does draw a lot of current but i figureded at the level im pushing it the stock charging system woud be enough. im going to have that checked out this week and will go from there. on a side note ive been watching my voltage gauge on start up and if i recall it always jumped right up to 14 volts or so as soon as started. now it seems to creep up rather slowly so im thinking maybe i have a charging issue. been wanting a high output alternator anyway so maybe its time to start looking. that would be the direction i would go in before i threw anything at it. gotta have a baseline. roy ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels well so much for this thread. nah denny was correct and t bone was right ya have to see how much draw ya have. $ ways shouldnt wipe the batteries out. sounds like your on your 4th battery in what 5 years something aint right roy .

From : miles

so how well am i doing practicing buddism i still need to work on the victim part but otherwise i think that im getting the hang of it. buddism is easy to practice. all you do is what chuckie has been doing for some time now. what is real good about it is that it is more of a lifestyle. although if one were to practice it in the real world they be up for a ass kicking in no time. if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving well so much for this thread. nah denny was correct and t bone was right ya have to see how much draw ya have. $ ways shouldnt wipe the batteries out. sounds like your on your 4th battery in what 5 years something aint right roy ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels they are not insults budd they are accurate observations. even when faced with simple science and freshman algebra disproving what you say you are still not man enough to admit that you were wrong. at least that part about you has never changed. perhaps you should not answer peoples questions as your lack of knowledge and cowardice to admit to even a simple error may get someone injured or killed and cause serious damage to their vehicle. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you resort to insults . . . budd budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you were too long winded anyway so i gnored it. tom i dont care how you manipulate formulae to suit your pupose you are wrong the battery will drain faster due to a heavier load it will not charge sufficiently if there is too much circuit resistance and that will add to his problem. good lord almighty!! budd sorry once again budd but it really doesnt work that way. while it is true that a bulb converts electrical energy into heat and light it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. i could go into a long winded explanation but you would just ignore it so ill just use some simple equations. i take it that you are familiar with ohms law where

From : denny

denny wrote i was sitting here reading some of the last few days of posts and the thought crossed my mind shut up roy about how in the good ole days the pissing matches were about what was the best type of torque wrench. that seems a little tame compared to this. went up to cabelas a couple of weeks ago and picked up a lee aniversary reloading kit. nothing fancy to it its just a basic reloading kit for getting started. im not too into guns. just have one for shooting down at the range now and then. todays gonna be spent going down to the auto store and buying a k&n filter for my truck. then i gotta rotate my tires. what torque wrench is recommended to use for torquing the lug nuts properly .

From : roy

1168555446.292950.272980@k58g2000hse.googlegroups.com azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote roy wrote okay to keep peace in the flock and to appease some of the members who made valid points for a change. mainly keeping my young ass out of trouble real or imagined i am converting from pussy to drum roll please... buddism!!!!! thats right buddism. it has its perks that we can all use equally. if somebody disagrees with you ya can call him a bigot or accuse him/her of bashing. you can accuse them of all sorts hate crimes threaten them with all kinds of violations to the bill of rights the constitution you name its covered. most importantly you can live your life in a state of total denial. you automatically become correct in every thing you say every hair brained idea or thought you have becomes gospel. you can say things to piss others off and it doesnt matter because you have embraced buddism. the one big difference of this sect of buddism is your friends are still your friends. im sure others will start their own sect of buddism thats wonderful cause there is a bunch of people in this world that havent been pissed off yet by budddism. oh one other thing. this sect of buddism does not require you to become totally blind or give up your political beliefs or surrender your common sense. so i figure miles and t-bone can join with no problem at all. will buddism accept beer as a fellow form of religoin with out bigotry and hatred no buddists dont drink. youre thinking of that new religious group that formed a few years back called the church of bud weiser yonzie i think you might be right dale as we all know that this budd aint getting any wiser. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : Annonymous

on sat 13 jan 2007 231711 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. who says i am in the wrong budd you! ha!!! ye shall not judge unless willing to be judged. poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is permitted.. i gotta get a rule book. this is so hard to follow. i have judged no other christians but i have mentioned differences in beliefs as compared to the bible. budd you are the wrong person to be making judgements on anyone. you may proclaim to be following the word of the lord buy you are absolutely hypocritical. you dont not teach the good word you ram it on people. if youre not a christian then i do have the biblical right to judge. i am not christian never have been never will but unlike you want to make everyone sound i am not a bigoted heathen destine to burn in hell just because you say so and because i make an ass out of myself like you every time i open my mouth about religion. that is your choice but thank god my place in heaven is not determined by any earthly person so judge me all you want its all ashes. as for the rest . . . .whatever. exactly whatever. we most be back in 1st grade now.. typical you ignore most everything and read into what is left. if only you would treat what is typed to you in heere like you claim you do the bible and not inturrept it but instead read it as it appears on your screen. well that could be done if the words werent twisted in meaning to begin with. like you i am allowed to chose what to read or not read to respond as i choose right so since you want to continue the tirade even though you have no legitimate claim to do so in this thread why do i have to read all your drivel obviously you pick what to read out of mine. oh whats that you do read it all and only respond to what you want maybe im doing the same thing larry. budd .

From : bob m

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From : roy

azwiley1 wrote 1 all the errors are in grammar not context. no menaings or intent was changed. ok i have to ask. how do you support your claims that all the errors are in grammer and not content i mean you are talking about a book that is 100s of years old. because he saw it on the discovery channel. so it must be true. so there! bob .

From : miles

well so much for this thread. nah denny was correct and t bone was right ya have to see how much draw ya have. $ ways shouldnt wipe the batteries out. sounds like your on your 4th battery in what 5 years something aint right roy ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels they are not insults budd they are accurate observations. even when faced with simple science and freshman algebra disproving what you say you are still not man enough to admit that you were wrong. at least that part about you has never changed. perhaps you should not answer peoples questions as your lack of knowledge and cowardice to admit to even a simple error may get someone injured or killed and cause serious damage to their vehicle. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you resort to insults . . . budd budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you were too long winded anyway so i gnored it. tom i dont care how you manipulate formulae to suit your pupose you are wrong the battery will drain faster due to a heavier load it will not charge sufficiently if there is too much circuit resistance and that will add to his problem. good lord almighty!! budd sorry once again budd but it really doesnt work that way. while it is true that a bulb converts electrical energy into heat and light it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. i could go into a long winded explanation but you would just ignore it so ill just use some simple equations. i take it that you are familiar with ohms law where voltage represented by e in the equation e = i * r with i being current and r being resistance. power can also be calculated as p = e * i where once again e being voltage and i being current. using these equations the current flow in a circuit i can be calculated if the voltage e and resistance r are known by rewriting the formula as i = e / r. i probably shouldnt need to go any further but since it is you i will. as you should know if you increase the size of the denominator in a fraction its value goes down not up. for an example if our battery is putting out 12v and we have 6 ohms of resistance in our imaginary circuit lets say the bulb using ohms calculation of i = e / r we have i = 12 / 6 which equals 2 amps. now we will make our connections really dirty and for the sake of keeping the math simple for you they are so dirty they add another 6 ohms and effectively double the resistance to our circuit. now our calculation comes out to i = 12 / 12 which is the original bulb plus our really dirty connection and now the current flow is just 1 amp. since the capacity of a battery is measured in amp hours it should be obvious to you that the added resistance will allow the battery to go twice as long. as for power or p we can calculate that as well. in our first example the battery put out 12 volts and 2 amps were passing thru our circuit so p = e * i or p = 12 * 2 which means our bulb was providing 24 watts of light. with our second example that included you dirty connections p now equals 12 * 1 where the current was effectively cut in half due to the added resistance which means our bulb is now only providing 12 watts of light so as i said in the previous post resistance in his connections will extend the life of his battery but at a reduced light output. of course these simple calculations make assumptions about the characteristics of a light bulb that are not completely accurate but that has nothing to do with the point being made and that is adding resistance to a series circuit with a fixed voltage reduces the current draw and power of the circuit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving power = energy. resistance conventional light bulbs in this case converts energy into heat and disapates it. energy is used to heat the filaments it is lost to the battery. dirty connections also heat up as they are resistances. burn a 12v bulb for a few minutes and stick you tongue to it if you dont think power is being converted to heat. budd how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds we

From : miles

roy wrote miles you just going around and around with him. you are correct in everything you have said as far as i remember.on this subject only dont beat yourself up over it. ya i know. he feels he is above all others in his own self-righteousness. exactly! thats why ive been practicing buddism hell it seems to work very well for some. i know far too many very devoted christians that would chew budd to pieces for his very non-christian ways. i know my wife for one. her beliefs are her beliefs mine are mine. they have served us both very well over the years. she read some of this and said wow! oh denny she says to tell you and the family hi! .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote dont look now tom but the lot of you are in gods hands. youve always been in them. some places in this thread have taken on a tone more like a discussion than the usual argumentation. i have no problem there. yes some of us can discuss things rather than just tell them they are wrong as you do. oh ya its the your interpretation of the bible that says theyre wrong which makes it all ok. .

From : tom lawrence

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From : roy

budd cochran wrote the records are from interviews of eyewitnesses. i ask you again. why for such a spectacular even did not a single person write a word about it during jesus time it was considered to be heresy among the jews punishable by death sedition among the romans punishable by death. the romans could have written about jesus from their own point of view. not that long after. john the beloved lived until the time of josephus easily. hmm...you mean someone wrote about jesus shortly after his death even though it was punishable by death scholars of the time could have written about jesus during his time from their own legal perspective. man has learned how to slow down and even stop light something einstein would have said was impossible . . .so why cant a true living god snap his godly fingers figuratively speaking and make it speed up there were some experiments a couple years ago that in effect slowed light down by passing it through a particular gas. the light did not actually slow down. it bounced off the gas molecules thus not taking a direct route to the other end of the tube and giving the effect of being slowed. now why would god speed up light this is the best collection of information on the matter. http//www.carm.org/evidence.htm spend a little time there. yes budd i am well aware that website is your source of proof. any scholar who comes to a different conclusion is deemed wrong by you. i say again scholars do not agree on the exact creation of the bible. they do not agree as to exactly who what when and where each portion was written. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is permitted.. i have judged no other christians but i have mentioned differences in beliefs as compared to the bible. how do you know who here is a christian and who isnt oh ya if they disagree with your views then they cant be a christian right good grief. making assumptions now if they dont follow the bible then there should be doubt about their faith who was it not long ago was telling that my actions didnt fit the norm for christians to which i replied i wasnt like most christians hiding my light under a bushel. who was saying you could tell by their fruits if the fruit of a tree is rotten it gets cut down. if the person acts like a person that is not a christian how can you tell if they are one you cant so they find themselves being treated like a non-christian. ah now here is a example of the stupid stuff that ya can say only after you have practiced buddism for a while. .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote the bible says i am right. that settles it. only according to to your buddism interpretation of it. other christians say you are very wrong. where in the bible does it say you should shove it down peoples throats at all costs as a method of teaching thats your very warped interpretation. tell me budd how many people here have you gotten to listen id say quite the opposite. maybe you should look at your flawed methods and learn from them. like i said nobody will respect you if you fail to respect them. clearly rofl. if that were true then christians would all believe the exact same thing. despite your claims they interpret the bible different that you. you tell each other they are wrong and youre right rather than learn from each other and admit you dont know everything. not even close. youre not listening are you are you not a chance. you feel you are above listening to others and they should listen to you. the bible does not tell you to be such a self-righteous ass to others as a method of teaching. you think everyone here is an atheist guess again. hopefully someday youll learn but doubtful. .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote making assumptions now if they dont follow the bible then there should be doubt about their faith follow the bible your way or their way budd which way oh ya your way is the only right way. who was it not long ago was telling that my actions didnt fit the norm for christians to which i replied i wasnt like most christians hiding my light under a bushel. most christians dont make an ass of themselves nor do they lack complete respect for anyone who doesnt believe their way. who was saying you could tell by their fruits if the fruit of a tree is rotten it gets cut down. hmm..sounds exactly like something the radical terrorist muslims would say. dont believe our way then well cut you down. good grief budd listen to yourself!! if the person acts like a person that is not a christian how can you tell if they are one you cant so they find themselves being treated like a non-christian. to many christians it is you who are not acting like a christian. just above you said you dont act like most christians. great then they can deem you non-christian just as you do with others. you do not act christian therefore you are a non-christian. .

From : nosey

budd cochran wrote you have told me many times since then that my views are wrong or heavily implied such. i told you what the bible said about your beliefs. you couldnt handle it. no budd. you fail to listen. i have repeatedly said over and over that i have never said your views are wrong. i never have. they are your views and you are entitled to them. i only said i disagree with some. thats a far cry from what you do to people here. you flat out tell them they are wrong. how about telling them you disagree and why instead you have complete lack of respect for anyone elses views unless they match yours. you seem to want to be treated differently than the way you treat others here. why miles i gotta interject here. if you were to ask that question to most everyone here. actually i dont think you would find it necessary to ask. i was going to try to explain the deal but ...... miles you just going around and around with him. you are correct in everything you have said as far as i remember.on this subject only dont beat yourself up over it. .

From : miles

well so much for this thread. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels they are not insults budd they are accurate observations. even when faced with simple science and freshman algebra disproving what you say you are still not man enough to admit that you were wrong. at least that part about you has never changed. perhaps you should not answer peoples questions as your lack of knowledge and cowardice to admit to even a simple error may get someone injured or killed and cause serious damage to their vehicle. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you resort to insults . . . budd budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you were too long winded anyway so i gnored it. tom i dont care how you manipulate formulae to suit your pupose you are wrong the battery will drain faster due to a heavier load it will not charge sufficiently if there is too much circuit resistance and that will add to his problem. good lord almighty!! budd sorry once again budd but it really doesnt work that way. while it is true that a bulb converts electrical energy into heat and light it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. i could go into a long winded explanation but you would just ignore it so ill just use some simple equations. i take it that you are familiar with ohms law where voltage represented by e in the equation e = i * r with i being current and r being resistance. power can also be calculated as p = e * i where once again e being voltage and i being current. using these equations the current flow in a circuit i can be calculated if the voltage e and resistance r are known by rewriting the formula as i = e / r. i probably shouldnt need to go any further but since it is you i will. as you should know if you increase the size of the denominator in a fraction its value goes down not up. for an example if our battery is putting out 12v and we have 6 ohms of resistance in our imaginary circuit lets say the bulb using ohms calculation of i = e / r we have i = 12 / 6 which equals 2 amps. now we will make our connections really dirty and for the sake of keeping the math simple for you they are so dirty they add another 6 ohms and effectively double the resistance to our circuit. now our calculation comes out to i = 12 / 12 which is the original bulb plus our really dirty connection and now the current flow is just 1 amp. since the capacity of a battery is measured in amp hours it should be obvious to you that the added resistance will allow the battery to go twice as long. as for power or p we can calculate that as well. in our first example the battery put out 12 volts and 2 amps were passing thru our circuit so p = e * i or p = 12 * 2 which means our bulb was providing 24 watts of light. with our second example that included you dirty connections p now equals 12 * 1 where the current was effectively cut in half due to the added resistance which means our bulb is now only providing 12 watts of light so as i said in the previous post resistance in his connections will extend the life of his battery but at a reduced light output. of course these simple calculations make assumptions about the characteristics of a light bulb that are not completely accurate but that has nothing to do with the point being made and that is adding resistance to a series circuit with a fixed voltage reduces the current draw and power of the circuit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving power = energy. resistance conventional light bulbs in this case converts energy into heat and disapates it. energy is used to heat the filaments it is lost to the battery. dirty connections also heat up as they are resistances. burn a 12v bulb for a few minutes and stick you tongue to it if you dont think power is being converted to heat. budd how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances us

From : budd cochran

man has learned how to slow down and even stop light something einstein would have said was impossible . . .so why cant a true living god snap his godly fingers figuratively speaking and make it speed up not that it matters much but man has only slowed light not stopped it. its done with laser cooling. the process is called the bose-einstein condensation. einstein wouldnt have said it was impossible. he had much to do with it. -- ken .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote so you reject the historical records of thousands of years of jewish rabbis and historical records from rome of the existence of jesus nothing was ever written about jesus contemporary to his own time. for such a spectacular event such as his birth why didnt anyone write about it at that time nor did they document anything about jesus life nor his death until after. if jesus life was such a major thing why didnt anyone mention it everything was written after his death by people who never even met him. the records are from interviews of eyewitnesses. historical fact that being a member the way as chritianity was originally called was sufficient to bring on a death sentence to the person believing in it thats true but historical mentioning of jesus especially his crucification would not have been a crime. it was considered to be heresy among the jews punishable by death sedition among the romans punishable by death. the bible records how the jews chose a known murderer barrabas the zealot for release instead of jesus who had broken no levitical laws. one can write about occurrences without bias towards christianity. nobody ever wrote a thing about jesus until quite awhile after his death. not that long after. john the beloved lived until the time of josephus easily. the logical scientific evidence requiring no stretch of the imagination no constant corrections that creation happened yep i saw those 14 plus miles of sedimentary rock layers again today with a pretty layer of snow on those nice even uneroded layers. yes we all know you believe the universe is only 8000 or so years old. care to explain how we can look at the stars and see light that took billions of years man has learned how to slow down and even stop light something einstein would have said was impossible . . .so why cant a true living god snap his godly fingers figuratively speaking and make it speed up even if you just look at our puny milky way galaxy you are seeing what took place millions of years ago. time warp space/time continuation warp whatever fits your beliefs. see my previous answer. theres no solid proof of platos works none for socrates either but do you believe they existed if you do then ask yourself if i can accept the works of socrates written some 900 year after he supposedly lived why cant i believed in 900 pieces of evidence for the bible huh you are confused. what we know about socrates was written by plato who was a pupil of his. plutos writings survived and have been authenticated some attributed to him have not been authenticated. timaeus was never lost to the western world and much of his other works were preserved by the moslum scholars. but what is authentication in almost all historical works there are some scholars who say one thing and others who say something different. that goes for the bible. exactly who wrote what part and when has never been proved. scholars differ on their views. this is the best collection of information on the matter. http//www.carm.org/evidence.htm spend a little time there. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

kinda like the finger in the chili at wendys dale hp howard.page@comcast.net wrote thats just what i was thinking! that little bastard did something to provoke the response. i am sure that disney will be investigating that families finances very thoroughly. it could be possible that it is a set up to have the whole vacation paid for and then some. this is crazy and wrong on sooo many ways........ take a look at the kids left arm and hand then the immediate reaction to it. i read that the kid had grabbed onto the costume in a way that was choking the guy in it. it almost looks like the guy was turning around and without the costume on probably would have missed the kid. http//video.ap.org/v/en-ap/v.htmg=78ce02c8-f240-4c91-a8d3-11a07b68015a&f=c oden -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : milesmiles

budd cochran wrote and your authority to say this comes from whom the same authority that allows you to say and his actions would not be approved by any stake or ward bishop not to mention the headquarters up north in slc. stop the hypocrisy budd. they have the right to believe so if they want but it doesnt make them right. doesnt make you right either. plus their less radical methods are more effective at getting people to listen than your shove it down throats at all costs approach. see budd the difference is that most other christians have respect for others and thus they gain the respect from them. try it some time. all the christians in the world are not the ones to say what gods words mean. gods already said it clearly in the bible. clearly rofl. if that were true then christians would all believe the exact same thing. despite your claims they interpret the bible different that you. you tell each other they are wrong and youre right rather than learn from each other and admit you dont know everything. not even close. .

From : budd cochran

1168555446.292950.272980@k58g2000hse.googlegroups.com azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote roy wrote okay to keep peace in the flock and to appease some of the members who made valid points for a change. mainly keeping my young ass out of trouble real or imagined i am converting from pussy to drum roll please... buddism!!!!! thats right buddism. it has its perks that we can all use equally. if somebody disagrees with you ya can call him a bigot or accuse him/her of bashing. you can accuse them of all sorts hate crimes threaten them with all kinds of violations to the bill of rights the constitution you name its covered. most importantly you can live your life in a state of total denial. you automatically become correct in every thing you say every hair brained idea or thought you have becomes gospel. you can say things to piss others off and it doesnt matter because you have embraced buddism. the one big difference of this sect of buddism is your friends are still your friends. im sure others will start their own sect of buddism thats wonderful cause there is a bunch of people in this world that havent been pissed off yet by budddism. oh one other thing. this sect of buddism does not require you to become totally blind or give up your political beliefs or surrender your common sense. so i figure miles and t-bone can join with no problem at all. will buddism accept beer as a fellow form of religoin with out bigotry and hatred no buddists dont drink. youre thinking of that new religious group that formed a few years back called the church of bud weiser yonzie .

From : tbone

budd cochran wrote you want me to lie to them about what the bible says it aint gonna happen. your interpretation of it that is. you seem to believe you have the power to know who is and isnt going to hell and judge people accordingly even though that same bible says its not your job to judge others. once again the passage refers to christians not allowed to judge christians. non-christians are allowed to be judged. the real problem is those that live as such poor examples of christianity that theres no detectable difference between them and non-christians i know their beliefs better than most of them do and his actions would not be approved by any stake or ward bishop not to mention the headquarters up north in slc. your beliefs would not be approved by the majority of christians in the world. and your authority to say this comes from whom the majority of christians do not take the radical approaches you do in your interpretation. they have the right to believe so if they want but it doesnt make them right. so which is the governing body for believers all the christians or god who was it that said in the group not long ago that if a couple people say something is no longer what it was that it doesnt change because they said it was different all the christians in the world are not the ones to say what gods words mean. gods already said it clearly in the bible. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is permitted.. i have judged no other christians but i have mentioned differences in beliefs as compared to the bible. how do you know who here is a christian and who isnt oh ya if they disagree with your views then they cant be a christian right good grief. .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote you have told me many times since then that my views are wrong or heavily implied such. i told you what the bible said about your beliefs. you couldnt handle it. no budd. you fail to listen. i have repeatedly said over and over that i have never said your views are wrong. i never have. they are your views and you are entitled to them. i only said i disagree with some. thats a far cry from what you do to people here. you flat out tell them they are wrong. how about telling them you disagree and why instead you have complete lack of respect for anyone elses views unless they match yours. you seem to want to be treated differently than the way you treat others here. why .

From : tom lawrence

tom lawrence wrote wow.... memories... wildcat cbcs computer-based conversation system. i used to be able to write ansi/avatar menus in my sleep... no chance of that now besides html is so much nicer the bbs wars between quickbbs remoteaccess tbbs et.al. battles for world-wide echomail dominance... rogue nets fights between regions... ah the good ol days that they were! i used wildcat with wildmail and quite a few other software packages to run my bbs. for a few years it was a busy and fun system to run. honestly i greatly preferred the days of fidonet over todays internet. while echos were usually not moderated they were almost always fun friendly and zero spam nor flame wars. totally different online culture back then. fido was larger than many people believed. here in phoenix alone we had over 300 bbss. i was able to email all over the world albiet it took a few hours to propagate. the individual bbss paid $5/month to a single sysop to pay his huge phone bill to dump email to the vegas west coast hub. .

From : budd cochran

they are not insults budd they are accurate observations. even when faced with simple science and freshman algebra disproving what you say you are still not man enough to admit that you were wrong. at least that part about you has never changed. perhaps you should not answer peoples questions as your lack of knowledge and cowardice to admit to even a simple error may get someone injured or killed and cause serious damage to their vehicle. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you resort to insults . . . budd budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you were too long winded anyway so i gnored it. tom i dont care how you manipulate formulae to suit your pupose you are wrong the battery will drain faster due to a heavier load it will not charge sufficiently if there is too much circuit resistance and that will add to his problem. good lord almighty!! budd sorry once again budd but it really doesnt work that way. while it is true that a bulb converts electrical energy into heat and light it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. i could go into a long winded explanation but you would just ignore it so ill just use some simple equations. i take it that you are familiar with ohms law where voltage represented by e in the equation e = i * r with i being current and r being resistance. power can also be calculated as p = e * i where once again e being voltage and i being current. using these equations the current flow in a circuit i can be calculated if the voltage e and resistance r are known by rewriting the formula as i = e / r. i probably shouldnt need to go any further but since it is you i will. as you should know if you increase the size of the denominator in a fraction its value goes down not up. for an example if our battery is putting out 12v and we have 6 ohms of resistance in our imaginary circuit lets say the bulb using ohms calculation of i = e / r we have i = 12 / 6 which equals 2 amps. now we will make our connections really dirty and for the sake of keeping the math simple for you they are so dirty they add another 6 ohms and effectively double the resistance to our circuit. now our calculation comes out to i = 12 / 12 which is the original bulb plus our really dirty connection and now the current flow is just 1 amp. since the capacity of a battery is measured in amp hours it should be obvious to you that the added resistance will allow the battery to go twice as long. as for power or p we can calculate that as well. in our first example the battery put out 12 volts and 2 amps were passing thru our circuit so p = e * i or p = 12 * 2 which means our bulb was providing 24 watts of light. with our second example that included you dirty connections p now equals 12 * 1 where the current was effectively cut in half due to the added resistance which means our bulb is now only providing 12 watts of light so as i said in the previous post resistance in his connections will extend the life of his battery but at a reduced light output. of course these simple calculations make assumptions about the characteristics of a light bulb that are not completely accurate but that has nothing to do with the point being made and that is adding resistance to a series circuit with a fixed voltage reduces the current draw and power of the circuit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving power = energy. resistance conventional light bulbs in this case converts energy into heat and disapates it. energy is used to heat the filaments it is lost to the battery. dirty connections also heat up as they are resistances. burn a 12v bulb for a few minutes and stick you tongue to it if you dont think power is being converted to heat. budd how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances use up power. that would be incorrect. the higher the resistance the less power used for a given voltage. poor connections would allow hos battery to last longer but he would have dimmer lights.

From : budd cochran

and you resort to insults . . . budd budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you were too long winded anyway so i gnored it. tom i dont care how you manipulate formulae to suit your pupose you are wrong the battery will drain faster due to a heavier load it will not charge sufficiently if there is too much circuit resistance and that will add to his problem. good lord almighty!! budd sorry once again budd but it really doesnt work that way. while it is true that a bulb converts electrical energy into heat and light it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. i could go into a long winded explanation but you would just ignore it so ill just use some simple equations. i take it that you are familiar with ohms law where voltage represented by e in the equation e = i * r with i being current and r being resistance. power can also be calculated as p = e * i where once again e being voltage and i being current. using these equations the current flow in a circuit i can be calculated if the voltage e and resistance r are known by rewriting the formula as i = e / r. i probably shouldnt need to go any further but since it is you i will. as you should know if you increase the size of the denominator in a fraction its value goes down not up. for an example if our battery is putting out 12v and we have 6 ohms of resistance in our imaginary circuit lets say the bulb using ohms calculation of i = e / r we have i = 12 / 6 which equals 2 amps. now we will make our connections really dirty and for the sake of keeping the math simple for you they are so dirty they add another 6 ohms and effectively double the resistance to our circuit. now our calculation comes out to i = 12 / 12 which is the original bulb plus our really dirty connection and now the current flow is just 1 amp. since the capacity of a battery is measured in amp hours it should be obvious to you that the added resistance will allow the battery to go twice as long. as for power or p we can calculate that as well. in our first example the battery put out 12 volts and 2 amps were passing thru our circuit so p = e * i or p = 12 * 2 which means our bulb was providing 24 watts of light. with our second example that included you dirty connections p now equals 12 * 1 where the current was effectively cut in half due to the added resistance which means our bulb is now only providing 12 watts of light so as i said in the previous post resistance in his connections will extend the life of his battery but at a reduced light output. of course these simple calculations make assumptions about the characteristics of a light bulb that are not completely accurate but that has nothing to do with the point being made and that is adding resistance to a series circuit with a fixed voltage reduces the current draw and power of the circuit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving power = energy. resistance conventional light bulbs in this case converts energy into heat and disapates it. energy is used to heat the filaments it is lost to the battery. dirty connections also heat up as they are resistances. burn a 12v bulb for a few minutes and stick you tongue to it if you dont think power is being converted to heat. budd how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances use up power. that would be incorrect. the higher the resistance the less power used for a given voltage. poor connections would allow hos battery to last longer but he would have dimmer lights. what do you know of the battery manufacturer there are some really cruddy chinese made batteries being sold in the us now. budd carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in message ok...lets talk about batteries since maybe this one is a turd. its an optima with 870 ca 750 cca 55 ah and 120 rc. i wouldnt think hazard lights would be that much of a drain on this battery given all the hype on them....but maybe im wrong. what batteries have you guys used and what are your opinions. -- -------------

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote so you reject the historical records of thousands of years of jewish rabbis and historical records from rome of the existence of jesus nothing was ever written about jesus contemporary to his own time. for such a spectacular event such as his birth why didnt anyone write about it at that time nor did they document anything about jesus life nor his death until after. if jesus life was such a major thing why didnt anyone mention it everything was written after his death by people who never even met him. historical fact that being a member the way as chritianity was originally called was sufficient to bring on a death sentence to the person believing in it thats true but historical mentioning of jesus especially his crucification would not have been a crime. one can write about occurrences without bias towards christianity. nobody ever wrote a thing about jesus until quite awhile after his death. the logical scientific evidence requiring no stretch of the imagination no constant corrections that creation happened yep i saw those 14 plus miles of sedimentary rock layers again today with a pretty layer of snow on those nice even uneroded layers. yes we all know you believe the universe is only 8000 or so years old. care to explain how we can look at the stars and see light that took billions of years even if you just look at our puny milky way galaxy you are seeing what took place millions of years ago. time warp space/time continuation warp whatever fits your beliefs. theres no solid proof of platos works none for socrates either but do you believe they existed if you do then ask yourself if i can accept the works of socrates written some 900 year after he supposedly lived why cant i believed in 900 pieces of evidence for the bible huh you are confused. what we know about socrates was written by plato who was a pupil of his. plutos writings survived and have been authenticated some attributed to him have not been authenticated. timaeus was never lost to the western world and much of his other works were preserved by the moslum scholars. but what is authentication in almost all historical works there are some scholars who say one thing and others who say something different. that goes for the bible. exactly who wrote what part and when has never been proved. scholars differ on their views. .

From : miles

you have told me many times since then that my views are wrong or heavily implied such. i told you what the bible said about your beliefs. you couldnt handle it. budd budd cochran wrote again miles when will i be given the same respect by you i did respect your views. that doesnt mean i agree with them. i have no problem with you believing the way you do. however for my views you told me im going to hell and that youre done talking with me. that is a total lack of respect for someone elses views. i have never once told you i wouldnt talk to you and i have never once told you that you were wrong for your views. you have told me that many times. thats the difference budd. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. who says i am in the wrong budd you! ha!!! ye shall not judge unless willing to be judged. poor choice larry. that verse is directed at christians not judging other christians not christians judging non-christians which is permitted.. i have judged no other christians but i have mentioned differences in beliefs as compared to the bible. budd you are the wrong person to be making judgements on anyone. you may proclaim to be following the word of the lord buy you are absolutely hypocritical. you dont not teach the good word you ram it on people. if youre not a christian then i do have the biblical right to judge. i am not christian never have been never will but unlike you want to make everyone sound i am not a bigoted heathen destine to burn in hell just because you say so and because i make an ass out of myself like you every time i open my mouth about religion. that is your choice but thank god my place in heaven is not determined by any earthly person so judge me all you want its all ashes. as for the rest . . . .whatever. exactly whatever. we most be back in 1st grade now.. typical you ignore most everything and read into what is left. if only you would treat what is typed to you in heere like you claim you do the bible and not inturrept it but instead read it as it appears on your screen. well that could be done if the words werent twisted in meaning to begin with. like you i am allowed to chose what to read or not read to respond as i choose right so since you want to continue the tirade even though you have no legitimate claim to do so in this thread why do i have to read all your drivel obviously you pick what to read out of mine. oh whats that you do read it all and only respond to what you want maybe im doing the same thing larry. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd you are one stupid asshole and as usual not man enough to admit to even the simplest of errors. i can see why you got to where you are in life which happens to be nowhere. any way you want to spin it chucky ohms laws and simple algebra show clearly that also as usual you dont know wtf you are talking about. a heavier load means more current draw not less and increasing the resistance is a series circuit reduces current draw. i gotta say that roy has buddism down flat. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you were too long winded anyway so i gnored it. tom i dont care how you manipulate formulae to suit your pupose you are wrong the battery will drain faster due to a heavier load it will not charge sufficiently if there is too much circuit resistance and that will add to his problem. good lord almighty!! budd sorry once again budd but it really doesnt work that way. while it is true that a bulb converts electrical energy into heat and light it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. i could go into a long winded explanation but you would just ignore it so ill just use some simple equations. i take it that you are familiar with ohms law where voltage represented by e in the equation e = i * r with i being current and r being resistance. power can also be calculated as p = e * i where once again e being voltage and i being current. using these equations the current flow in a circuit i can be calculated if the voltage e and resistance r are known by rewriting the formula as i = e / r. i probably shouldnt need to go any further but since it is you i will. as you should know if you increase the size of the denominator in a fraction its value goes down not up. for an example if our battery is putting out 12v and we have 6 ohms of resistance in our imaginary circuit lets say the bulb using ohms calculation of i = e / r we have i = 12 / 6 which equals 2 amps. now we will make our connections really dirty and for the sake of keeping the math simple for you they are so dirty they add another 6 ohms and effectively double the resistance to our circuit. now our calculation comes out to i = 12 / 12 which is the original bulb plus our really dirty connection and now the current flow is just 1 amp. since the capacity of a battery is measured in amp hours it should be obvious to you that the added resistance will allow the battery to go twice as long. as for power or p we can calculate that as well. in our first example the battery put out 12 volts and 2 amps were passing thru our circuit so p = e * i or p = 12 * 2 which means our bulb was providing 24 watts of light. with our second example that included you dirty connections p now equals 12 * 1 where the current was effectively cut in half due to the added resistance which means our bulb is now only providing 12 watts of light so as i said in the previous post resistance in his connections will extend the life of his battery but at a reduced light output. of course these simple calculations make assumptions about the characteristics of a light bulb that are not completely accurate but that has nothing to do with the point being made and that is adding resistance to a series circuit with a fixed voltage reduces the current draw and power of the circuit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving power = energy. resistance conventional light bulbs in this case converts energy into heat and disapates it. energy is used to heat the filaments it is lost to the battery. dirty connections also heat up as they are resistances. burn a 12v bulb for a few minutes and stick you tongue to it if you dont think power is being converted to heat. budd how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances use up power. that would be incorrect. the higher the resistance the less power used for a given voltage. poor connections would allow hos battery to last longer but he would have dimmer lights. what do you know of the battery manufacturer there are some really cruddy chinese made batteries being sold in the us now. budd carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in message ok...lets talk about batteries since maybe this one is a turd. its an optima with 870 ca 750 cca 55 ah and 120 rc. i wouldnt think hazard lights would be that much of a drain on this battery given all the hype on them....but maybe im wrong. what batteries have you guys used and what are your opinions. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----c

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote 2 severe punishments were meted out for changing scripture loss of priesthood qualification being the most severe. ive read elsewhere and many years back that beatings were given for just the grammatical errors. the complete source of the new and old testaments have never been found. nobody knows exactly when various portions of the bible were written. much could easily have been lost and altered and we today would never know the difference. the history of the bibles creation has never been completely resolved and proven. so you reject the historical records of thousands of years of jewish rabbis and historical records from rome of the existence of jesus the historical fact that being a member the way as chritianity was originally called was sufficient to bring on a death sentence to the person believing in it the logical scientific evidence requiring no stretch of the imagination no constant corrections that creation happened yep i saw those 14 plus miles of sedimentary rock layers again today with a pretty layer of snow on those nice even uneroded layers. theres no solid proof of platos works none for socrates either but do you believe they existed if you do then ask yourself if i can accept the works of socrates written some 900 year after he supposedly lived why cant i believed in 900 pieces of evidence for the bible budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote you want me to lie to them about what the bible says it aint gonna happen. your interpretation of it that is. you seem to believe you have the power to know who is and isnt going to hell and judge people accordingly even though that same bible says its not your job to judge others. i know their beliefs better than most of them do and his actions would not be approved by any stake or ward bishop not to mention the headquarters up north in slc. your beliefs would not be approved by the majority of christians in the world. the majority of christians do not take the radical approaches you do in your interpretation. .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote again miles when will i be given the same respect by you i did respect your views. that doesnt mean i agree with them. i have no problem with you believing the way you do. however for my views you told me im going to hell and that youre done talking with me. that is a total lack of respect for someone elses views. i have never once told you i wouldnt talk to you and i have never once told you that you were wrong for your views. you have told me that many times. thats the difference budd. .

From : budd cochran

no larry the bible is much older than that its thousands of years old. assume for a moment that writing was known much earlier than currently believed say 6000 b.c. since the staff moses carried in the wilderness had writing on it be it hieroglyphs or what. that was earlier than even the pheonicians. the books of moses the torah by themselves alone are a feat of incredible accuracy as the correct passages are still available and still used today 6000 years later. the only errors grammatical. the meanings and teachings the first levitical priests in the tabernacle taught the same things they teach today in the synagogues. the new testament is backed by historical records as well as one important thing the disciples all were killed because of believing in what jesus taught. copies of texts have the same type of errors grammatical only. do yourself a favor larry if you will look online for information about the various versions of the bible and see how much some version change it from the king james version. ill help you find the links if you wish. budd 1 all the errors are in grammar not context. no menaings or intent was changed. ok i have to ask. how do you support your claims that all the errors are in grammer and not content i mean you are talking about a book that is 100s of years old. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

fmb wrote roy wrote i was looking for a way to make my turbo louder on my truck i have heard of a couple of ways but i was looking for some input from here. thanks brian remove the silencer ring i took out the ring + the fins in the tube close to the turbo is their anything else install a k&n filter let in more air and dirt let out more turbo whine... fmb north mexico wont a cold air intake be good for the old ctd as in filter out the dirt or are they junk is their better oned than that 2006 ctd quad cab calgary ab a good cold air intake is better but then you may be talking almost $500 afe stage ii. what you need to watch out for are those intakes that claim a great increase in air flow probably true but they may also alow in more dirt. a good place to read discussions on cold air intakes filters turbo whine injectors etc. etc. is www.dieseltruckresource.com and do a search for what you want. that free site is all about your ctd. fmb north mexico .

From : budd cochran

dude go back through google and start to read everything again. in the very begining everyone try asking you to please stop with the preaching and with forcing it on everyone. hell i in one on one email to you tried talking to you about it and all i got in return was the same retorich in email as we have gotten in here budd. and you expected me to respond differently am i not allowed to be angered by what ive been called how ive been treated by you and others no budd you are allowed to be angered. but you are not the victim here. if you would have only respected others and accepted their desires we both know for a fact that none of this would have happen. budd i am going to say this one last time no one ever asked you to or demanded that you change your beliefs your morals your new found way of life. you demanded that we respect you and all we aksed for was the same in return. no one cared about the religious inflections in your posts until it started getting rammed down our throats. comments like you telling miles he is going to hell telling john that he is a poor example of his religion are what brought on the onslught. you want me to lie to them about what the bible says it aint gonna happen. budd every time you open your mouth you are lying about it. you are inturrepting it into a fashion that fits you and not by what is actually written. give me a break i might not bash it like you do but i have read it a few dozen times or two and nothing in it say you should act as you do. stormin mormon is a bad example of that religion. ive been around mormons for nearly 45 years now i know their beliefs better than most of them do and his actions would not be approved by any stake or ward bishop not to mention the headquarters up north in slc. so what you have been around them 4500 years. that does not give you the right to judge some one else. nor does it give you the right to question anyone else about how they act in a religion that you dont even practice. i happen to think that the moron religion is a crock but it is not my place to tell some one that they are a poor example or that they are wrong and will burn in hell. if you would have only respect us and our beliefs i promise you it would have never gone where it did. if only some people would have looked at what i wrote without intolerance and hatred and saw what it really was; quotations corrected quotations corrected passage meanings iow i was trying to help them this would never have happened larry. but it didnt and here we are. that is the whole point budd. no one asked for your religious help. you forced it on them and would not stop when asked. is that so damn hard to understand you were asked not to and continued doing it. and you presume to accuse me of intolerance and bigotry as far as im concerned the lot of you are in gods hands to do with as he pleases. i done arguing with any of you. ive got better things to do. like what tuck tail and run because you know you are wrong for the way you have acted toward your fellow man. because it was not done in the manner which the good book says it should be. because you know that jesus would have never treated another human the way you have simply because they did not agree with him or accept his religion as you demanded we do yours. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

dude go back through google and start to read everything again. in the very begining everyone try asking you to please stop with the preaching and with forcing it on everyone. hell i in one on one email to you tried talking to you about it and all i got in return was the same retorich in email as we have gotten in here budd. and you expected me to respond differently am i not allowed to be angered by what ive been called how ive been treated by you and others budd i am going to say this one last time no one ever asked you to or demanded that you change your beliefs your morals your new found way of life. you demanded that we respect you and all we aksed for was the same in return. no one cared about the religious inflections in your posts until it started getting rammed down our throats. comments like you telling miles he is going to hell telling john that he is a poor example of his religion are what brought on the onslught. you want me to lie to them about what the bible says it aint gonna happen. stormin mormon is a bad example of that religion. ive been around mormons for nearly 45 years now i know their beliefs better than most of them do and his actions would not be approved by any stake or ward bishop not to mention the headquarters up north in slc. if you would have only respect us and our beliefs i promise you it would have never gone where it did. if only some people would have looked at what i wrote without intolerance and hatred and saw what it really was; quotations corrected quotations corrected passage meanings iow i was trying to help them this would never have happened larry. but it didnt and here we are. and you presume to accuse me of intolerance and bigotry as far as im concerned the lot of you are in gods hands to do with as he pleases. i done arguing with any of you. ive got better things to do. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. as for the rest . . . .whatever. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

does anyone have a dixie horn or a cb there getting rid of .

From : roy

wrong again my short peckered friend. with buddism if i say a ugly girl is beautiful then it becomes fact!! she is beautiful. remember with buddism you are always correct everybody that doesnt agree is wrong!! with a bit more practice youll catch on.vbg you can say that if you like but in this one case no matter how you twist it buddism is wrong. beer has proven in many real life experiments that it can make an ugly woman beautiful! i say it is so so i am correct and have scientific evidence to prove it but i refuse to post a link and will only tell you to go find it yourself! .

From : azwiley1

ah with buddism you can be your own messenger! told you folks that in buddism you are always correct and everybody else is wrong! you gotta pay attention. you get to be rude call people names and hide under buddism. so dont tell me to bring proof! all i have to do is make the statement or accusation cause im right. you beer thing is cool but with buddism its like a shield. the only difference is ya dont loose your friends. but beer does something that even buddism cant it makes ugly women look good at some point! wrong again my short peckered friend. with buddism if i say a ugly girl is beautiful then it becomes fact!! she is beautiful. remember with buddism you are always correct everybody that doesnt agree is wrong!! with a bit more practice youll catch on.vbg .

From : roy

ah with buddism you can be your own messenger! told you folks that in buddism you are always correct and everybody else is wrong! you gotta pay attention. you get to be rude call people names and hide under buddism. so dont tell me to bring proof! all i have to do is make the statement or accusation cause im right. you beer thing is cool but with buddism its like a shield. the only difference is ya dont loose your friends. but beer does something that even buddism cant it makes ugly women look good at some point! .

From : miles

ah but doing buddism i am doing as you do here. you dont have a clue where i am on sunday. or saturday for that matter. www.lasalette-shrine.org/ 1 mile from home. is this where you started buddism no i learned it from chuckie. it is my goal after observing and reading what he spews forth to be just like him when the need arises. lasalette is a huge place had a monastry that had been there forever looked like a castle but it burned a few years ago. they have a christmas light display that is one of the largest in new england bus tours all through the season. so traffic around here stinks when the display is lit. but see you are still a bigoted heathen because you are not falling inline with the messengers specific beliefs. ah with buddism you can be your own messenger! told you folks that in buddism you are always correct and everybody else is wrong! you gotta pay attention. you get to be rude call people names and hide under buddism. so dont tell me to bring proof! all i have to do is make the statement or accusation cause im right. you beer thing is cool but with buddism its like a shield. the only difference is ya dont loose your friends. though i am not sure what they are. it doesnt matter its all bs anyway! gbmfg .

From : budd cochran

geekboy wrote you will regret it. that v6 has no power. i had a 99 with 5 speed with the 4.9 v6. it struggled even on over passes while in 5th gear. not to mention why get a vehicle that has less power than the v8 ram and gets the same fuel economy. i have talked to others who had the v6 they all dispointed. thats true. i had a 2000 5.2l v8 quad cab 4x4 and it struggled to hold 70mph on flat ground in od. even the slightest uphill rise in the highway and i had to switch off od. i then got a 2001 5.9l v8 quad cab. much better. had plenty of power and it got better mpg than the 5.2l. youre right about the v6 not getting any better mpg. id recommend getting a used truck with the 5.9l. much nicer to drive. as for a used diesel theyre considerably more expensive than a used gasser. that would be overkill for the ops intended uses which i assume to be rather light. nor really. in my diesel with 3.73 rear end i get 21 mpg on higway and 18 city driving. if it still had the original 3.54 it would be 25 mpg on highway. then there is a better engine quality. with the cummins you are getting an engine that should last 500k miles compared to maybe 200k with the gas engine. only plus benefits with the diesels. more power longer lasting greater fuel enconomy and better resell value. .

From : azwiley1budd cochran

budd cochran wrote then quit whining when i happen to add a bit of religious content. if you learn to respect others views that differ from your own. .

From : roy

1 all the errors are in grammar not context. no menaings or intent was changed. ok i have to ask. how do you support your claims that all the errors are in grammer and not content i mean you are talking about a book that is 100s of years old. .

From : azwiley1

ah but doing buddism i am doing as you do here. you dont have a clue where i am on sunday. or saturday for that matter. www.lasalette-shrine.org/ 1 mile from home. is this where you started buddism but see you are still a bigoted heathen because you are not falling inline with the messengers specific beliefs. though i am not sure what they are. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote 2 severe punishments were meted out for changing scripture loss of priesthood qualification being the most severe. ive read elsewhere and many years back that beatings were given for just the grammatical errors. the complete source of the new and old testaments have never been found. nobody knows exactly when various portions of the bible were written. much could easily have been lost and altered and we today would never know the difference. the history of the bibles creation has never been completely resolved and proven. .

From : azwiley1

tom lawrence wrote hmmm.... i was a member of fidonet for quite some time served a couple of years as an nc and never heard them called chat echos. echomail groups sure... i ran a bbs on fidonet as well. i used mustang softwares wildcat which called them chat echos. hmm...i cant remember the name of the email add-on to wildcat which i believe was made by a separate company. .

From : azwiley1

dude go back through google and start to read everything again. in the very begining everyone try asking you to please stop with the preaching and with forcing it on everyone. hell i in one on one email to you tried talking to you about it and all i got in return was the same retorich in email as we have gotten in here budd. budd i am going to say this one last time no one ever asked you to or demanded that you change your beliefs your morals your new found way of life. you demanded that we respect you and all we aksed for was the same in return. no one cared about the religious inflections in your posts until it started getting rammed down our throats. comments like you telling miles he is going to hell telling john that he is a poor example of his religion are what brought on the onslught. if you would have only respect us and our beliefs i promise you it would have never gone where it did. .

From : miles

ken this part is actually easy to understand. if you were to read just about every other post from him it would be clear to see that so far as he cares he is always right. the one fact that he fails to understand are the points that you are making all of which you are afaik 100% correct on. there just is no way anyone person can say that the bible regardless of version is error free or the exact word of god. the bible really is no different then any other historical book every time it is re-written by some one new there is always going to be error because of said writes interpretation of what they read. so that being the case over time those errors are going to increase and at some point in time will make the book so convoluted that it is meaningless. the goal of my conversation with budd here is not to change his religious beliefs or prove him wrong about anything. i think he already knows that my religious beliefs and his dont exactly match. i suppose im trying to show him my perspective of his religious interaction with others while gaining a better understanding of his beliefs but we havent gone that far yet. he may be right he may be wrong but im not questioning that. -- ken ken i appreciate this comment. i respect that you want to find out more about my beliefs. let me help i believe the bible to be the inspired inerrant word of god. i do not believe any other book meets these requirements. i believe that god exists eternally as a three-in-one triune god with all the required attributes of a true living god and was never a mortal nor ever had a beginning or will have and end.. this is possible because he is god. i believe that god created all that is the universe and its physical laws all living things and it waws all perfect until man fell from grace by his own freewill choice. i believe evolution is not proven at all or in any respect. i believe that jesus the second being of the tinity was born of a virgin miraculously concieved by the power of god lived as a carpenter for 30 years and taught for three years. he is wholly god and wholly man. he died on the cross as the sacrificial lamb given by god as the atonement sacrifice jewish law for sin once and for all and with no requirements to receive that grace except to repent of your sin and believe. he rose bodily on the third day jewish reckoning to bring believers eternal life. i believe jesus as the messiah died for me for my sins past present and future and that i am now a child of god a believer called by him to a life or worship faith and teaching. i am not to hide my beliefs for any reason or person. i am called to be separate from non-believers or those fallen away from god and i am chosen by god to follow him and to live for him as i understand i am to do through prayer and study. my commitment is to be complete with no reservation. does this help budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

well larry hes far more likely to do it than all the cussing and fussing everyone else has tried. budd ken this part is actually easy to understand. if you were to read just about every other post from him it would be clear to see that so far as he cares he is always right. the one fact that he fails to understand are the points that you are making all of which you are afaik 100% correct on. there just is no way anyone person can say that the bible regardless of version is error free or the exact word of god. the bible really is no different then any other historical book every time it is re-written by some one new there is always going to be error because of said writes interpretation of what they read. so that being the case over time those errors are going to increase and at some point in time will make the book so convoluted that it is meaningless. the goal of my conversation with budd here is not to change his religious beliefs or prove him wrong about anything. i think he already knows that my religious beliefs and his dont exactly match. i suppose im trying to show him my perspective of his religious interaction with others while gaining a better understanding of his beliefs but we havent gone that far yet. he may be right he may be wrong but im not questioning that. -- ken but see ken no one in the group has ever wanted to change his religious beliefs or for that matter until it became absolutely nexessary to prove him wrong. all anyone wanted was for him to show us the respect that he demanded he be given and to not force upon people who express no interest his religion and his beliefs. the problem was/is that he claims he does not read into what is written in the bible yet there is likely not one single post to him where he did not ignore what was written and twisted it into his own view and saw what he wanted. oh buddism at its best. any carry on and i hope you are successful at acomplishing what you desire. ^ -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

do you believe that one person has more of a right to choose their religion than another person nope but i am required by my beliefs to teach the truth. i take that to mean that you /do/ agree that one person has no more right to choose their religion than another person. right. i didnt ask you about teaching any truths but i dont think thats what you meant anyway. dont change my words i said what i meant based on my beliefs which demand i say what i mean. iow lying not allowed its a sin. im not implying that you are a liar. i should have simply said that i didnt ask you about teaching. more on the truth below. perhaps you meant that you are required by your beliefs to teach your faith. my faith is my faith your results may be different. i am called to teach the truth. you obviously understand there is a difference between faith and truth but id like to make sure that i understand completely what you mean. if you disagree with any of the following feel free to add your own definitions. you know id ask later anyway. so how can i drop this thread if you keep asking me things ; do you agree that truth is a verified or indisputable fact yes. do you agree that faith is a belief that is not based on proof yes. do you agree that believing something could be true does not automatically make it truth no. believing the sky is green because 2 or more say it is green doesnt make it so however the bible doesnt fll into that category because there is more evidence available to verify it than there is for plato socrates or even buddha. i think you know as well as i do that there is not evidence to support everything in the bible. it cannot be verified. the accuracy of the bible is only opinion. its a popular opinion but as you said because 2 or more say its green doesnt make it so. i agree ken but the bible isnt verified by only a couple people its verified by over 900 pieces of text from as far back as few thousand years ago. then you have historians like josephus that wrote down eyewitness accounts from the time of jesus. take the dead sea scrolls from the late forties containing most of the book of isaiah as it is found in the kjv the hebrew scriptures in current use and dated to the roman occupation. other much older texts and copies verify the bible to be over 95% accurate www.carm.org/bible/nooriginals.htm thats just one listing. i can find many more however as has been noted in the past in the group they will be christian sites. simply put you will not ever find proof of the bible in a secular website. i didnt see where it said its 95% accurate but i did see where carm.org concedes there are errors in the copies bible if we dont have the original biblical documents but only possess copies that have copyist errors then how can we argue that the original documents were without error 1 all the errors are in grammar not context. no menaings or intent was changed. 2 severe punishments were meted out for changing scripture loss of priesthood qualification being the most severe. ive read elsewhere and many years back that beatings were given for just the grammatical errors. and first of all the copies definitely have errors in them but whether or not they have errors does not necessitate that the originals did. also from carm.org the body mind will and emotions are affected by sin and make 100% interpretive accuracy impossible. this does not mean that accurate understanding of gods word is impossible. but it does mean that we need to approach his word with care humility and reason. and with much prayer. i read that about five times. i still cannot comprehend how you can read something that is impossible to interpret accurately but you can understand it accurately. as i understand it it means that literal interpretation what the words actually say and not some interpretation that doesnt match the word meanings is the most accurate. i understand the scriptures best if i dont look for esoteric interpretations and just read the literal words. the shocker for many people is to find out that the english dialect used in the kjv is not the language of english royalty. in the 1600s the languages of royal court were latin and french. what we call king james english was the street language of the day. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

funny how you can give a link and everyone has to accept it but thats not allowed for me hypocrite. not at all... when i reference something its a direct reference. i dont point to an entire web site and say the answer lies somewhere in there.. go find it. you have yet to provide evidence of a specific court case that backs up any of your legal claims. you continue to play the juvenile well if youre not going to look im not going to tell you game. im not going to do your research for you. you make the claims then refuse to back them up. youre not fooling anyone save perhaps yourself. your free advice needs to be applied to yourself the next time you post a link about some claim. i might call you out on it. go for it... .

From : budd cochran

same difference!! i go back a long ways with online forums. fidonet used the term chat echos instead of groups. guess i got so used to that term! hmmm.... i was a member of fidonet for quite some time served a couple of years as an nc and never heard them called chat echos. echomail groups sure... ah well... soda pop sub hoagie... guess it depends on where youre from. .

From : budd cochran

its all from the sermon on the mount and you really cant divide it up. its one whole lesson for believers. budd budd cochran wrote btw john there had better be someone ripping into you for this because youve done exactly what ive done and no more no less. only to you in order to teach you more about yourself and what you do to others. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. i like the way you are practicing buddism thought turn what you demanded happen into something about someone else and how they should seek help of some kinds. when are you going to start listening to your own advice have you considered anger management training or do you think youre angry enough without help budd shame on you john. bad boy! there you fucking happy you ignorant hypocritical bible thumping dont give a damn about anyone other then yourself bigot! btw john there had better be someone ripping into you for this because youve done exactly what ive done and no more no less. otherwise they show their bigotry and hypocrisy. their credence goes down the tube as yours just did. you know pkb. budd if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. i wonder how budds interpretation of the following passages compares to his everyday life matthew 6 1. beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your father who is in heaven. 2. so when you give to the poor do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may be honored by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 3. but when you give to the poor do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 4. so that your giving will be in secret; and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

have you considered anger management training or do you think youre angry enough without help budd shame on you john. bad boy! there you fucking happy you ignorant hypocritical bible thumping dont give a damn about anyone other then yourself bigot! btw john there had better be someone ripping into you for this because youve done exactly what ive done and no more no less. otherwise they show their bigotry and hypocrisy. their credence goes down the tube as yours just did. you know pkb. budd if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. i wonder how budds interpretation of the following passages compares to his everyday life matthew 6 1. beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your father who is in heaven. 2. so when you give to the poor do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may be honored by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 3. but when you give to the poor do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 4. so that your giving will be in secret; and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : john kunkel

hey guys i have a 2004 dakota extended cab 2wd 5 spd 4.7 with stock rims and tires size 16x8. what is the largest size tire i can put on these stock rims. im also looking for info on performance exhaust systems and performance intake systems for this truck. can anyone tell me about performance gains fuel economy ease of installation etc. any help would be greatly appreciated. trying to decide if it would be worth it to due these upgrades! thanks again john .

From : Annonymous

its a spiritual thing oh so now its a spiritual thing... before you said it was in the court records. well go on arguing without me if you wish. im going back to answering vehicle questions. im not arguing budd... im simply asking for proof to back up some of your claims. not any of your spiritual or religious claims - your of this world claims. you claimed there were court cases and decisions that found civil rights violations for online postings... yet couldnt back it up with anything of substance. you then claimed someone was a con artist and said there were court records proving same - yet couldnt produce any of those either. heres some free advice... if you dont want to be called out on things like this dont make the claims in the first place. well all get along much better that way... .

From : budd cochran

you cant even remember what i did back then well enough to even tell a believable lie about it . . .rotflmbo!!!! budd on sat 13 jan 2007 111819 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. i wonder how budds interpretation of the following passages compares to his everyday life matthew 6 1. beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your father who is in heaven. 2. so when you give to the poor do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may be honored by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 3. but when you give to the poor do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 4. so that your giving will be in secret; and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. i really think youre putting too much emphasis on the religious part of budd. budd is simply nuts. crazy. luney tunes. the religion thing is only his most recent trip into insanity. before that it was other crap that was just as stupid just maybe not so abrasive to the non christians. geez. i still remember years ago when budd told stories about being a cook in the national guard or the army. cant remember which. then a couple weeks later he was a secret soldier that snuck behind enemy lines and slit the throats of his enemies. when i called him out about being a cook he said he was a cook but the general took a liking to him and taught him how to sneak behind enemy lines in the cover of darkness slit the throats of the enemy and then sneak back to his own side and cook during the day! shit over the years budd has been nothing short of amazing. hes been a matryr about his health.........well just all kinds of stuff. entertainment he has been. but a lot of the regulars here used to defend him try to get people to lay off his lunacy because he was just a nice old crazy guy. the trip into religious lunacy has just made him easier for people to see.........to see how far he really has drifted away from the beach called reality........because religion is such a hot button thing to everyone. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

carolina watercraft works wrote ok...lets talk about batteries since maybe this one is a turd. its an optima with 870 ca 750 cca 55 ah and 120 rc. i wouldnt think hazard lights would be that much of a drain on this battery given all the hype on them....but maybe im wrong. what batteries have you guys used and what are your opinions. -- laszlo almasi some years ago consumer reports did a comparison of several batteries. at the that time interstate rated #1 with $ears diehard rating #2. exide was at the bottom. in the past 10 years ive been buying interstate and have had no complaints. i use a pair of their workaholic group 27 units in my 77 d200. i understand they *used to* make batteries for $ears. bryan .

From : miles

tbone wrote it is not all that small and it doesnt have to be a huge number to make it a number 1 issue. it only takes one of these scumbags to effect thousands of people so imagine what thousands of them can do to the millions that work for them. its not the number 1 issue to resolve with regards to wages across the entire national labor pool. not even close. its just the most visible and hyped and youre the type that always follows the headline stories. .

From : miles

tbone wrote lol sorry miles but the reps are just as guilty of it as the dems. the only differences are why and that the dems dont try and hide doing it. the dems do it mostely for humanitarian reasons and talk about it while the reps do it to keep the labor rates low and try to hide that or that they support it in any way. oh bull. the dems do it for votes from the hispanic community. quit with the righteousness! as for your low pay rhetoric that is exactly the claim the dems have been stating. that the illegals are needed for the low wage jobs they take and how forcing them out would raise prices of such goods. both parties pander to gain votes and nothing more. name which state reps have tried to get drivers licenses for illegals i know several that the dems have done just that...and thankfully failed. here in az voters approved a bill to deny in-state college tuition to illegals. they must pay out of state fees. of course the dems have cried that its racist and are suing but so far the courts have upheld the bill. .

From : miles

a new direction for america or why i feel so much better ! ! ! as the democrats new promise a new direction for america the stock market is at a new all-time high and americas 401ks are back. a new direction from there means what unemployment is at 25-year lows. a new direction from there means what oil prices are down drastically. a new direction from there means what taxes are at 20-year lows. a new direction from there means what federal tax revenues are at all-time highs. a new direction from there means what the federal deficit is down almost 50% just as predicted over last year. a new direction from there means what home valuations are up 200% over the past 3.5 years. a new direction from there means what inflation is in check hovering at 20 year lows. a new direction from there means what not a single terrorist attack on us soil since 9/11/01. a new direction from there means what osama bin laden is living under a rock in a dark cave having not surfaced in years if hes alive at all while 95% of al quedas top dogs are either dead or in custody cooperating with us intel. a new direction from there means what several major terrorist attacks already thwarted by us and british intel including the recent planned attack involving 10 jumbo jets being exploded in mid-air over major us cities in order to celebrate the anniversary of the 9/11/01 attacks. a new direction from there means what just as president bush foretold us on a number of occasions iraq was to be made ground zero for the war on terrorism -- and just as president bush said they would terrorist cells from all over the region are arriving from the shadows of their hiding places and flooding into iraq in order to get their faces blown off by us marines rather than boarding planes and heading to the united states to wage war on us here. a new direction from there means what now let me see do i have this right i can expect the economy to go south illegal to go north taxes to go up employment to go down terrorism to come in tax breaks to go out social security to go away health care to go the same way gas prices have gone but what the heck! i can gain comfort by knowing that nancy p hillary c john k edward k howard d harry r and obama have worked hard to create a comprehensive national security plan health care plan immigration reform plan gay rights plan same sex marriage plan abortion on demand plan tolerance of everyone and everything plan how to return all troops to the u .s. in the next six months plan a get tough plan adapted from the french plan by the same name and a how everyone can become as wealthy as we are plan. i forgot the no more katrina storm plan. now i know why i feel good after the elections. i am going to be able to sleep so much better at nights knowing these dedicated politicians are thinking of my welfare and me. .

From : nosey

you need to do a current check on this vehicle dude and see exactly how much current this truck is drawing. it sounds like something is either on or backfeeding current when you dont expect it to be. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving just the standard number of bulbs...nothing aftermarket. another note...i used to have the red top battery but had it replaced after it left me stranded at a gas station. they replaced it but i opted for the yellow top this time. the r/t was maybe 6 months old if i recall. afterwards they told me they load tested the battery and it was good. so then i questioned my alternator but it has never given me problems and seems ok. maybe i need to have it tested as well -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances use up power. what do you know of the battery manufacturer there are some really cruddy chinese made batteries being sold in the us now. budd .

From : tbone

budd cochran wrote i never said i did roy. but i did say i would express mine if i felt i needed to. fine. then quit whining about anyone who expresses their own views that differ with yours. .

From : tbone

roy wrote i was looking for a way to make my turbo louder on my truck i have heard of a couple of ways but i was looking for some input from here. thanks brian remove the silencer ring i took out the ring + the fins in the tube close to the turbo is their anything else .

From : tbone

it is not all that small and it doesnt have to be a huge number to make it a number 1 issue. it only takes one of these scumbags to effect thousands of people so imagine what thousands of them can do to the millions that work for them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote it is not as small as you would have us believe. ceos making mega millions are a very small minority yet you make it out to be the #1 issue. .

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote like i thought not man enough. really are you man enough to confess your sins to god and then make a change in your life you wont confess the sin of your actions here in this chat room. you dont see it and never will. this is a group miles not a chat room but otherwise i think that the rest of the group is in complete agreement with you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : nosey

here ya go try to play nice.bfg we all have probably had our fill of religion. but i think buddism is a fun deal. we have football this weekend. chargers and pats should be a hell of a game. pats are pretty much healthy vrabel doesnt show on the injury list but his back is a mess but hell probably play. i figure the pats to take it. for a few reasons experience coaching and they are a team. dont care. also we have gws speech. should we send more troops in what do ya think sure the enemy needs fresh targets because thats about all thats gonna happen. how about the thought running around that we may go into iran if they keep supplying our enemies then damn right and hit them hard. lot of talk about expanding army and marines. where is the manpower going to come from perhaps they will outsource that as well - what are your thoughts on the draft being introduced short of a true global war it will never happen. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : azwiley1

develop a usenet spam blocker then give it away for free so nobody ever has to see this crap. -- ken .

From : nosey

http//www.the1995plan.com/fingerfood -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

i was looking for a way to make my turbo louder on my truck i have heard of a couple of ways but i was looking for some input from here. thanks brian remove the silencer ring .

From : Annonymousmiles

i was looking for a way to make my turbo louder on my truck i have heard of a couple of ways but i was looking for some input from here. thanks brian .

From : roy

how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances use up power. that would be incorrect. the higher the resistance the less power used for a given voltage. poor connections would allow hos battery to last longer but he would have dimmer lights. what do you know of the battery manufacturer there are some really cruddy chinese made batteries being sold in the us now. budd ok...lets talk about batteries since maybe this one is a turd. its an optima with 870 ca 750 cca 55 ah and 120 rc. i wouldnt think hazard lights would be that much of a drain on this battery given all the hype on them....but maybe im wrong. what batteries have you guys used and what are your opinions. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels how long a battery holds up under any load is a matter of the ratio of the amp/hour rating to load. the more amp/hours in your battery the lower the load or both the longer the lights will flash. a 450 a/h battery in my old valiant would burn the dome light for three days before the battery went dead dont ask how i know . . . a 650 a/h battery would last a third longer four days. is the battery the one sized to your vehicle or did you get a larger than stock battery when i buy a battery for my cars i always get the largest a/h rating that will fit in the car / truck. budd i seem to have an issue with my 01 2500 qc 4x4... a couple of times lately i left my hazard lights on once hile helping to remove a fallen tree on a road. left the truck to block the road for safety. got back in and ill be damned if the battery wasnt about dead. how long do you guys experience your batteries to last under those conditions granted my ram has never needed the hazards for its own sake but i expected this brand new odyssey battery to last a hell of a long time. im thinking it is all hype. any input -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

ken this part is actually easy to understand. if you were to read just about every other post from him it would be clear to see that so far as he cares he is always right. the one fact that he fails to understand are the points that you are making all of which you are afaik 100% correct on. there just is no way anyone person can say that the bible regardless of version is error free or the exact word of god. the bible really is no different then any other historical book every time it is re-written by some one new there is always going to be error because of said writes interpretation of what they read. so that being the case over time those errors are going to increase and at some point in time will make the book so convoluted that it is meaningless. the goal of my conversation with budd here is not to change his religious beliefs or prove him wrong about anything. i think he already knows that my religious beliefs and his dont exactly match. i suppose im trying to show him my perspective of his religious interaction with others while gaining a better understanding of his beliefs but we havent gone that far yet. he may be right he may be wrong but im not questioning that. -- ken .

From : budd cochran

thats why a lot of law enforcement agencies are going to led systems. even out here in little ol moab. sheriff dept. just got 2 hemi charger pursuit units with led light bars state troopers are jealous ... theyre still driving fords. budd personally even in a gasser if im on the side of the road and have the hazards flashing the truck is in park e-brake on and idling. this was especially true when i was on the fd and had a light bar running. yup some of those light bars will wipe a set of batteries like nothing else. i almost got screwed a few years ago with a bar and have used strobes since. even a set of strobes is a lot of draw but not near like rotators. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

do you believe that one person has more of a right to choose their religion than another person nope but i am required by my beliefs to teach the truth. i take that to mean that you /do/ agree that one person has no more right to choose their religion than another person. right. i didnt ask you about teaching any truths but i dont think thats what you meant anyway. dont change my words i said what i meant based on my beliefs which demand i say what i mean. iow lying not allowed its a sin. im not implying that you are a liar. i should have simply said that i didnt ask you about teaching. more on the truth below. perhaps you meant that you are required by your beliefs to teach your faith. my faith is my faith your results may be different. i am called to teach the truth. you obviously understand there is a difference between faith and truth but id like to make sure that i understand completely what you mean. if you disagree with any of the following feel free to add your own definitions. you know id ask later anyway. so how can i drop this thread if you keep asking me things ; do you agree that truth is a verified or indisputable fact yes. do you agree that faith is a belief that is not based on proof yes. do you agree that believing something could be true does not automatically make it truth no. believing the sky is green because 2 or more say it is green doesnt make it so however the bible doesnt fll into that category because there is more evidence available to verify it than there is for plato socrates or even buddha. i think you know as well as i do that there is not evidence to support everything in the bible. it cannot be verified. the accuracy of the bible is only opinion. its a popular opinion but as you said because 2 or more say its green doesnt make it so. i agree ken but the bible isnt verified by only a couple people its verified by over 900 pieces of text from as far back as few thousand years ago. then you have historians like josephus that wrote down eyewitness accounts from the time of jesus. take the dead sea scrolls from the late forties containing most of the book of isaiah as it is found in the kjv the hebrew scriptures in current use and dated to the roman occupation. other much older texts and copies verify the bible to be over 95% accurate www.carm.org/bible/nooriginals.htm thats just one listing. i can find many more however as has been noted in the past in the group they will be christian sites. simply put you will not ever find proof of the bible in a secular website. i didnt see where it said its 95% accurate but i did see where carm.org concedes there are errors in the copies bible if we dont have the original biblical documents but only possess copies that have copyist errors then how can we argue that the original documents were without error and first of all the copies definitely have errors in them but whether or not they have errors does not necessitate that the originals did. also from carm.org the body mind will and emotions are affected by sin and make 100% interpretive accuracy impossible. this does not mean that accurate understanding of gods word is impossible. but it does mean that we need to approach his word with care humility and reason. i read that about five times. i still cannot comprehend how you can read something that is impossible to interpret accurately but you can understand it accurately. it may appear to just be insignificant semantics but it makes a very big difference in the meaning. its not semantics its truth. funny how people will follow very poorly supported philosophies like plato or socrates but revile the one with the best support the bible. im not all that familiar with plato and socrates. i am very familiar with the bible. is there something about the philosophers that you would like to discuss only that there is more evidence for the accuracy and in kind the truth of the kjv than for any greek philosopher. im most familiar with the kjv. when i use the term bible that version is what im referring to. i never cared much for the new american and i cant read . my eldest son began reading the kjv when he was 2. picture a proud daddy most of the new translations either are more accurately transliterations leave a considerable amount of text out change the meanings of words or change the words themselves. i prefer the kjv for those reasons. what if one persons religious practices are disrespectful to another persons religious belief who has more of a right then as in yours is direspectful of mine you answered it for yourself. im asking you a question about what you believe. i cant possibly answer that for myself. you have to do it on your own. if you cant answer it for yourself then your beliefs are a real mess. i know what it means to me. i was asking you to tell me what it means to you. not

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote tell me something miles what does the phrase go and teach mean it means just that. you fail to realize you cant teach people who do not wish to be taught nor can you force your interpretation of the bible upon to other christians who have their own views. you feel that means shove it down their throats force them to believe your way at all costs. that is a radical approach that is ineffective and not what most others interpret it to mean. that is your warped interpretation of it. yes budd you do interpret the bible your way. it is your interpretation. what happens when you meet another devoted christian that has different views than your own do the two of you try to shove your views down the others throat this is exactly why this world has had so many wars over religion. total lack of respect for all others. what a sick twisted form of christianity you have budd. im glad most christians do not share your interpretation. .

From : budd cochranbudd cochran

shame on you john. bad boy! there you fucking happy you ignorant hypocritical bible thumping dont give a damn about anyone other then yourself bigot! btw john there had better be someone ripping into you for this because youve done exactly what ive done and no more no less. otherwise they show their bigotry and hypocrisy. their credence goes down the tube as yours just did. you know pkb. budd if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. i wonder how budds interpretation of the following passages compares to his everyday life matthew 6 1. beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your father who is in heaven. 2. so when you give to the poor do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may be honored by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 3. but when you give to the poor do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 4. so that your giving will be in secret; and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. i wonder how budds interpretation of the following passages compares to his everyday life matthew 6 1. beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your father who is in heaven. matt 514-16 paraphrased for brevity 14- you are the light of the world a visible city on a hill. 15-you dont light a candle and stick it under a bucket you put it up to light all around you. 16-be seen as a light unto others and glorify god in heaven 2. so when you give to the poor do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may be honored by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. so when did i brag about my tithing my help to others 3. but when you give to the poor do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 4. so that your giving will be in secret; and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. and you claim to know what blessings i may receive or not 5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. and when have i written / posted any prayers in this group 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. this is true. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

its a spiritual thing oh so now its a spiritual thing... before you said it was in the court records. sorry i misunderstood you. my apologies. the trials are on going or were settled out of court because the aclu discovered they didnt have a leg to stand on afaik but remember this when you think about your statements about the efforts to stop christian beliefs from being practiced namely that all being done by organizations organizations are made up of people and someone inside the organization or someone the organization is sympathetic to begans the mess with a personal decision that what the christians are doing is somehow wrong. so my statement that persons people are trying to stop christians from practicing their beliefs are true. it began in here with one person. well go on arguing without me if you wish. im going back to answering vehicle questions. im not arguing budd... im simply asking for proof to back up some of your claims. not any of your spiritual or religious claims - your of this world claims. you claimed there were court cases and decisions that found civil rights violations for online postings... yet couldnt back it up with anything of substance. you then claimed someone was a con artist and said there were court records proving same - yet couldnt produce any of those either. and youre too darn lazy to follow the links or do any looking for yourself right funny how you can give a link and everyone has to accept it but thats not allowed for me hypocrite. heres some free advice... if you dont want to be called out on things like this dont make the claims in the first place. well all get along much better that way... your free advice needs to be applied to yourself the next time you post a link about some claim. i might call you out on it. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

on sat 13 jan 2007 111819 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. i wonder how budds interpretation of the following passages compares to his everyday life matthew 6 1. beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your father who is in heaven. 2. so when you give to the poor do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may be honored by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 3. but when you give to the poor do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 4. so that your giving will be in secret; and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. i really think youre putting too much emphasis on the religious part of budd. budd is simply nuts. crazy. luney tunes. the religion thing is only his most recent trip into insanity. before that it was other crap that was just as stupid just maybe not so abrasive to the non christians. geez. i still remember years ago when budd told stories about being a cook in the national guard or the army. cant remember which. then a couple weeks later he was a secret soldier that snuck behind enemy lines and slit the throats of his enemies. when i called him out about being a cook he said he was a cook but the general took a liking to him and taught him how to sneak behind enemy lines in the cover of darkness slit the throats of the enemy and then sneak back to his own side and cook during the day! shit over the years budd has been nothing short of amazing. hes been a matryr about his health.........well just all kinds of stuff. entertainment he has been. but a lot of the regulars here used to defend him try to get people to lay off his lunacy because he was just a nice old crazy guy. the trip into religious lunacy has just made him easier for people to see.........to see how far he really has drifted away from the beach called reality........because religion is such a hot button thing to everyone. .

From : budd cochran

im sure its going to destroy many small businesses which make up something like 80% of the total number of businesses in the us. when it was thought that co-president hillary was going to force thru that health care package i was working for a small engine shop. the boss / owner budgie fazzino who is a close friend looked at me and his son-in-law and told us that he would have to close the doors if it went thru. i see a possible similar effect from this stuff. it would have been much better to put limits on foriegn owned investments / businesses and stabilize the dollar at home to heck with the global market enforce the immigration laews on the books and put caps union demands. we need to fix whats broken at home first. budd budd cochran wrote if ever . . . . have you heard anything about when they will vote for a raise for their minimum wage i noticed on fox that another fox poll shows over 90% of the people responding to the poll say the democrat congress will do nothing about illegal immigration. why am i not surprised the house already approved the minimum wage hike. now its the senates turn but they have their own bill they want to push through. here in arizona they raised the state minimum wage last fall. it has caused a ton of lay offs especially for seriously disabled workers who used to fall under an exemption to the minimum wage but no longer do. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

this is crazy and wrong on sooo many ways........ take a look at the kids left arm and hand then the immediate reaction to it. i read that the kid had grabbed onto the costume in a way that was choking the guy in it. it almost looks like the guy was turning around and without the costume on probably would have missed the kid. http//video.ap.org/v/en-ap/v.htmg=78ce02c8-f240-4c91-a8d3-11a07b68015a&f=coden -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : miles

personally even in a gasser if im on the side of the road and have the hazards flashing the truck is in park e-brake on and idling. this was especially true when i was on the fd and had a light bar running. yup some of those light bars will wipe a set of batteries like nothing else. i almost got screwed a few years ago with a bar and have used strobes since. even a set of strobes is a lot of draw but not near like rotators. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : roy

this is crazy and wrong on sooo many ways........ http//video.ap.org/v/en-ap/v.htmg=78ce02c8-f240-4c91-a8d3-11a07b68015a&f=coden -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote so no matter what i say be it a praise the lord if something great happens or anything religious youre gonna be there to monitor and correct me ahhh yes. you are now complaining about what you yourself feel is your job to do. you can dish it out but whine when people give it right back. quit monitoring and correcting others if you do not like it back. .

From : miles

fun for train crossings ! http//bestofyt.com/video/get-the-hell-out-of-my-way ron not my video one heck of a air tank in that thing. .

From : budd cochran

like i warned ya the sites are christian oriented so quit complaining. so show me a conviction then.... should be pretty simple. ill even accept charges... just something official and not a bunch of opinions. .

From : roy

there are others which you convieniently miss like the posting of the wiring diagram for the guy with the older truck but admit the truth you and the others have kept this going every bit as much as i have. id rather do the non-religious answers to questions post but as long as you whine about any religious content if you did not interject relgious content into your posts there would be no discussion about it. ill add it if i choose to. thats fine. bearing in mind that everyone has the same right to add what they wish. so no matter what i say be it a praise the lord if something great happens or anything religious youre gonna be there to monitor and correct me not in the least. just pointing out that you dont have exclusive rights to expound on your beliefs. im going to reply to it. get the picture if you initiate it you will undoubtedly read more of the same. its funny how in this thread nosey admitted to having started the religious content apologized for it i accepted his apology and you clowns still continue to blame me for the content. it has gone well beyond the point of assigning blame. get past it will ya. no it hasnt. admit you are continuing the diatribe simply because you think im to blame even when im not. no im telling you that it dosnt matter at this point who is to blame. is that so hard to understand thats really bigoted on youyr part blaming an innocent for something . . .but typical anymore. back to the bigot again. and once again the victim. it matters not because i practice buddism. you are bashing me you biggoted old fart now knock it off before the ymca acluboa and the rest of them come after you. whos the bigot roy me who did not bring religion into this thread or you for continuing to blame me in spite of evidence to the contrary yup you are the bigot and you use a double standard along with it. dont get me wrong i fully understand it. another facet of buddism. you really dont get it do ya. with all this time ive had i read a whole bunch of your stuff going back a year or so ago. your really easy. so thats why i decided to as i said emulate your behavior with buddism thus you can get a taste of what you present to the rest of us. yup i noticed a whole flurry of new posts that dont contain a thing about religion. but ya know what you have done the exact same thing before to substantiate your position. we will see how long this normalcy lasts. hopefully forever. do you get the picture obviously you dont and dont want to. that is very sad. thats thing idiot with buddism i dont have to see a damn thing im the one thats right and you will always be wrong. know why because i practice buddism. now chuckie do you get the whole picture i knew ya would cause you showed me how to play buddism!! and this alone demonstrates the true nature of your posts pure hatred. so in practicing buddism i practice hatred. im doing exactly what you have been and continue to do with everybody here. call it whatever you want. are you starting to get it yet .

From : chris thompsonroy

wouldnt hurt to have it tested. do you have an aftermarket sound system installed radio/cd changer/amplifiers/etc. or fog / driving lights that you use constantly thats more load draining the battery ev en with the engine running that may not have been replaced battery recharged before you turned on the 4-ways. its also why the sports compact owners end up with charging systems that could power a battleship. there are so many possibilities that its hard to tell you what is going on to be honest. and to be honest if one battery from a manufacturer / supplier failed me that quickly i would really hesitate to buy another one of that brand. if you can find an interstate battery dealer get one theyre excellent batteries. budd just the standard number of bulbs...nothing aftermarket. another note...i used to have the red top battery but had it replaced after it left me stranded at a gas station. they replaced it but i opted for the yellow top this time. the r/t was maybe 6 months old if i recall. afterwards they told me they load tested the battery and it was good. so then i questioned my alternator but it has never given me problems and seems ok. maybe i need to have it tested as well -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances use up power. what do you know of the battery manufacturer there are some really cruddy chinese made batteries being sold in the us now. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

there are others which you convieniently miss like the posting of the wiring diagram for the guy with the older truck but admit the truth you and the others have kept this going every bit as much as i have. id rather do the non-religious answers to questions post but as long as you whine about any religious content if you did not interject relgious content into your posts there would be no discussion about it. ill add it if i choose to. thats fine. bearing in mind that everyone has the same right to add what they wish. im going to reply to it. get the picture if you initiate it you will undoubtedly read more of the same. its funny how in this thread nosey admitted to having started the religious content apologized for it i accepted his apology and you clowns still continue to blame me for the content. it has gone well beyond the point of assigning blame. get past it will ya. thats really bigoted on youyr part blaming an innocent for something . . .but ty

From : budd cochran

back to the bigot again. and once again the victim. it matters not because i practice buddism. you are bashing me you biggoted old fart now knock it off before the ymca acluboa and the rest of them come after you. do you get the picture obviously you dont and dont want to. that is very sad. thats thing idiot with buddism i dont have to see a damn thing im the one thats right and you will always be wrong. know why because i practice buddism. now chuckie do you get the whole picture i knew ya would cause you showed me how to play buddism!! carry on if you must. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com . 222 328009 cc7e0$45a8e81a$471e1e3f$2979@alltel.net i seem to have an issue with my 01 2500 qc 4x4... a couple of times lately i left my hazard lights on once hile helping to remove a fallen tree on a road. left the truck to block the road for safety. got back in and ill be damned if the battery wasnt about dead. how long do you guys experience your batteries to last under those conditions granted my ram has never needed the hazards for its own sake but i expected this brand new odyssey battery to last a hell of a long time. im thinking it is all hype. any input -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels the simple answer to your question is not long. hazard flashers flash a total of 6 bulbs on the average vehicle. 2 front high intensity bulbs 2 rear high intensity bulbs and 2 side markers found on most trucks on the side near the headlights i list these as i dont recall if the br/be has them or not i can tell you from experience that when doing a alignment you lock the brake pedal down that the brake lights just 2 of the 4 high intensity bulbs it will very quickly in about an hour or so in some cases totally drain the battery. personally even in a gasser if im on the side of the road and have the hazards flashing the truck is in park e-brake on and idling. this was especially true when i was on the fd and had a light bar running. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : budd cochran

just the standard number of bulbs...nothing aftermarket. another note...i used to have the red top battery but had it replaced after it left me stranded at a gas station. they replaced it but i opted for the yellow top this time. the r/t was maybe 6 months old if i recall. afterwards they told me they load tested the battery and it was good. so then i questioned my alternator but it has never given me problems and seems ok. maybe i need to have it tested as well -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels how many bulbs are being flashed 4-6-8-120 you could have a battery built with forklift cells 2.3 volts 900 amps maximum current per cell x 6 and 240 pounds weight per cell but if youre flashing accesory bulbs along with the originals it isnt going to hold up as long. what condition are your cables / cable ends / connections general wiring all resistances use up power. what do you know of the battery manufacturer there are some really cruddy chinese made batteries being sold in the us now. budd .

From : roy

on thu 11 jan 2007 214534 -0500 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote i had a stumbles fails and then restarts problem. after some complicated work like pulling the fuel pickup out of the gas tank it turned out to be a clogged air filter. like he says change the air and fuel filters first. then check the egr. egr stuck on at idle will definitely do it. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com so will the throttle sensor. .

From : tom lawrence

ok...lets talk about batteries since maybe this one is a turd. its an optima with 870 ca 750 cca 55 ah and 120 rc. i wouldnt think hazard lights would be that much of a drain on this battery given all the hype on them....but maybe im wrong. what batteries have you guys used and what are your opinions. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels how long a battery holds up under any load is a matter of the ratio of the amp/hour rating to load. the more amp/hours in your battery the lower the load or both the longer the lights will flash. a 450 a/h battery in my old valiant would burn the dome light for three days before the battery went dead dont ask how i know . . . a 650 a/h battery would last a third longer four days. is the battery the one sized to your vehicle or did you get a larger than stock battery when i buy a battery for my cars i always get the largest a/h rating that will fit in the car / truck. budd i seem to have an issue with my 01 2500 qc 4x4... a couple of times lately i left my hazard lights on once hile helping to remove a fallen tree on a road. left the truck to block the road for safety. got back in and ill be damned if the battery wasnt about dead. how long do you guys experience your batteries to last under those conditions granted my ram has never needed the hazards for its own sake but i expected this brand new odyssey battery to last a hell of a long time. im thinking it is all hype. any input -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

there are others which you convieniently miss like the posting of the wiring diagram for the guy with the older truck but admit the truth you and the others have kept this going every bit as much as i have. id rather do the non-religious answers to questions post but as long as you whine about any religious content if you did not interject relgious content into your posts there would be no discussion about it. im going to reply to it. get the picture if you initiate it you will undoubtedly read more of the same. do you get the picture budd again you refuse to see any posts without religious content. what the 4 or 5 that you have made in lets say the last 24 hours fine you have made some post with out religious preaching embedded into it. that does not change the fact that for months all you have been making is post that were nothing but religious. so i made a comment about him. what are you doing towards me pkb. throwing in your face what you have done to everyone else! you told miles he was going to hell. you told damn near all of us we are bigots heathens that we hate christianity hate religion hate god. you preach that you are only doing the work of god yet you slap some one in the face and call them a poor example of thier religion. that is in no way shape form or fashion doing gods work. and it was not me that compared them to mainstream christianity larry i just wrote what has been said into the post. you typed it your signature was on it. you compared it. now you retract your above statement and by posting a link in response to tom ls post. then why are you constantly ignoring posts without religous content just to attack me for my beliefs how does one ignore something that had not been happening you just with in the last say 24 hours started making post with out religion. be careful what you ask for. what you it matter according to you i hate god religion am a bigot and heathen. so there would be no gods will involved if i dont believe. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. if you cant read it and understand it that way then you are truly close minded. it is your interpretation since most christians do not agree that the lord instructs you to piss everyone you can off as a way of spreading the gospel. you refuse to believe you interpret anything as if youre better than everyone else who disagrees with you including other christians. ya i know its always others who have it wrong never you. tell me something miles what does the phrase go and teach mean budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

fun for train crossings ! http//bestofyt.com/video/get-the-hell-out-of-my-way ron not my video .

From : tom lawrence

there are others which you convieniently miss like the posting of the wiring diagram for the guy with the older truck but admit the truth you and the others have kept this going every bit as much as i have. id rather do the non-religious answers to questions post but as long as you whine about any religious content im going to reply to it. get the picture budd again you refuse to see any posts without religious content. what the 4 or 5 that you have made in lets say the last 24 hours fine you have made some post with out religious preaching embedded into it. that does not change the fact that for months all you have been making is post that were nothing but religious. so i made a comment about him. what are you doing towards me pkb. throwing in your face what you have done to everyone else! you told miles he was going to hell. you told damn near all of us we are bigots heathens that we hate christianity hate religion hate god. you preach that you are only doing the work of god yet you slap some one in the face and call them a poor example of thier religion. that is in no way shape form or fashion doing gods work. and it was not me that compared them to mainstream christianity larry i just wrote what has been said into the post. you typed it your signature was on it. you compared it. now you retract your above statement and by posting a link in response to tom ls post. then why are you constantly ignoring posts without religous content just to attack me for my beliefs how does one ignore something that had not been happening you just with in the last say 24 hours started making post with out religion. be careful what you ask for. what you it matter according to you i hate god religion am a bigot and heathen. so there would be no gods will involved if i dont believe. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

like i warned ya the sites are christian oriented so quit complaining. budd check out http//www.carm.org/mormon.htm http//www.mrm.org/ looks like petty squabbling to me... my religion is better than your religion. still no proof that the guy you claim is a con artist really is... just a whole lot of opinion from groups with a vested interest in disproving the competition. sorta like pointing to articles on a chevy website that prove dodge products inferior. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

sorta like pointing to articles on a chevy website that prove dodge products inferior. who you trying to kid you know that any dodge product is inferior! you been followin the recent thread on the duramax overheating problem there larry yup that is why i am going to trade in my gasser silverado for a d-max silvy! about as soon as i convert too buddism! .

From : miles

sorta like pointing to articles on a chevy website that prove dodge products inferior. who you trying to kid you know that any dodge product is inferior! you been followin the recent thread on the duramax overheating problem there larry .

From : miles

tbone wrote it is not as small as you would have us believe. ceos making mega millions are a very small minority yet you make it out to be the #1 issue. .

From : azwiley1

i seem to have an issue with my 01 2500 qc 4x4... a couple of times lately i left my hazard lights on once hile helping to remove a fallen tree on a road. left the truck to block the road for safety. got back in and ill be damned if the battery wasnt about dead. how long do you guys experience your batteries to last under those conditions granted my ram has never needed the hazards for its own sake but i expected this brand new odyssey battery to last a hell of a long time. im thinking it is all hype. any input -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels .

From : tom lawrence

you hate christianity and god! youre a poor example too but ive got this buddism deal down pat. so im right your always picking on me. .

From : budd cochran

sorta like pointing to articles on a chevy website that prove dodge products inferior. who you trying to kid you know that any dodge product is inferior! bg .

From : budd cochran

check out http//www.carm.org/mormon.htm http//www.mrm.org/ looks like petty squabbling to me... my religion is better than your religion. still no proof that the guy you claim is a con artist really is... just a whole lot of opinion from groups with a vested interest in disproving the competition. sorta like pointing to articles on a chevy website that prove dodge products inferior. .

From : azwiley1

do you believe that one person has more of a right to choose their religion than another person nope but i am required by my beliefs to teach the truth. i take that to mean that you /do/ agree that one person has no more right to choose their religion than another person. right. i didnt ask you about teaching any truths but i dont think thats what you meant anyway. dont change my words i said what i meant based on my beliefs which demand i say what i mean. iow lying not allowed its a sin. im not implying that you are a liar. i should have simply said that i didnt ask you about teaching. more on the truth below. perhaps you meant that you are required by your beliefs to teach your faith. my faith is my faith your results may be different. i am called to teach the truth. you obviously understand there is a difference between faith and truth but id like to make sure that i understand completely what you mean. if you disagree with any of the following feel free to add your own definitions. you know id ask later anyway. so how can i drop this thread if you keep asking me things ; do you agree that truth is a verified or indisputable fact yes. do you agree that faith is a belief that is not based on proof yes. do you agree that believing something could be true does not automatically make it truth no. believing the sky is green because 2 or more say it is green doesnt make it so however the bible doesnt fll into that category because there is more evidence available to verify it than there is for plato socrates or even buddha. i think you know as well as i do that there is not evidence to support everything in the bible. it cannot be verified. the accuracy of the bible is only opinion. its a popular opinion but as you said because 2 or more say its green doesnt make it so. i agree ken but the bible isnt verified by only a couple people its verified by over 900 pieces of text from as far back as few thousand years ago. then you have historians like josephus that wrote down eyewitness accounts from the time of jesus. take the dead sea scrolls from the late forties containing most of the book of isaiah as it is found in the kjv the hebrew scriptures in current use and dated to the roman occupation. other much older texts and copies verify the bible to be over 95% accurate www.carm.org/bible/nooriginals.htm thats just one listing. i can find many more however as has been noted in the past in the group they will be christian sites. simply put you will not ever find proof of the bible in a secular website. it may appear to just be insignificant semantics but it makes a very big difference in the meaning. its not semantics its truth. funny how people will follow very poorly supported philosophies like plato or socrates but revile the one with the best support the bible. im not all that familiar with plato and socrates. i am very familiar with the bible. is there something about the philosophers that you would like to discuss only that there is more evidence for the accuracy and in kind the truth of the kjv than for any greek philosopher. im most familiar with the kjv. when i use the term bible that version is what im referring to. i never cared much for the new american and i cant read . my eldest son began reading the kjv when he was 2. picture a proud daddy most of the new translations either are more accurately transliterations leave a considerable amount of text out change the meanings of words or change the words themselves. i prefer the kjv for those reasons. what if one persons religious practices are disrespectful to another persons religious belief who has more of a right then as in yours is direspectful of mine you answered it for yourself. im asking you a question about what you believe. i cant possibly answer that for myself. you have to do it on your own. if you cant answer it for yourself then your beliefs are a real mess. i know what it means to me. i was asking you to tell me what it means to you. nothing more nothing less. so please answer the question what if one persons religious practices are disrespectful to another persons religious belief who has more of a right then neither. but it does not stop truth from being truth whether its accepted or not. i completely agree with that. im done with your assasinations. huh take a deep breath budd. im just asking simple questions. i havent said one mean thing to you. i even said please at least once. sorry ken im getting a bit punchy from the others. i apologize. they do tend to gang up on a person when they can. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

again you refuse to see any posts without religious content. what the 4 or 5 that you have made in lets say the last 24 hours fine you have made some post with out religious preaching embedded into it. that does not change the fact that for months all you have been making is post that were nothing but religious. so i made a comment about him. what are you doing towards me pkb. throwing in your face what you have done to everyone else! you told miles he was going to hell. you told damn near all of us we are bigots heathens that we hate christianity hate religion hate god. you preach that you are only doing the work of god yet you slap some one in the face and call them a poor example of thier religion. that is in no way shape form or fashion doing gods work. and it was not me that compared them to mainstream christianity larry i just wrote what has been said into the post. you typed it your signature was on it. you compared it. now you retract your above statement and by posting a link in response to tom ls post. then why are you constantly ignoring posts without religous content just to attack me for my beliefs how does one ignore something that had not been happening you just with in the last say 24 hours started making post with out religion. be careful what you ask for. what you it matter according to you i hate god religion am a bigot and heathen. so there would be no gods will involved if i dont believe. .

From : budd cochran

ya want me to shut up with you about this then just look at a few other recent posts by me admit you are seeing posts without religious content to yourself and then drop the issue. i dont want an apology or nothing else. ah buddism at its best. now how could chuckie even think about an apology the answer my friends is easy! buddism alway correct never wrong in any word or action. im tellin ya buddism is the way to go!! .

From : budd cochran

roy wrote roy wrote come on roy were all waiting! okay okay ya damn bigot! give me a minute! buddism at its best. gbmfg ive been victimized by buddism! first ya cant be the victim we already have one. the believer in buddism is always the victim. you dont respect me and you hate religion. you are a heathed! vbfg according to the teaching of buddism that is bashing!! you are subject to various laws under the aclu the unwtf ymca ywca and any other alphabet soup deal that can be thought of. also i dont have to show you no stinking link either cause i said it and im right. look it up yourself! told ya this buddism stuff was cool!! you forgot the naacp uaw usw! you cant be right damn it i am right! .

From : budd cochran

roy wrote here ya go try to play nice.bfg we all have probably had our fill of religion. but i think buddism is a fun deal. we have football this weekend. chargers and pats should be a hell of a game. pats are pretty much healthy vrabel doesnt show on the injury list but his back is a mess but hell probably play. i figure the pats to take it. for a few reasons experience coaching and they are a team. i am looking at the chargers. i think they are hungry as hell and think that lt will treat the pats defence like he has most everyone elses. also we have gws speech. should we send more troops in what do ya think again i think that we should not be in iraq anymore so i damn sure think that sending more is a bad idea. if the assclown would come right out and tell us what we are fighting and why he might have a little more support. so we surge 22000 more what/who are we surging against the insurgents the sheits. the sunnis if they want their country and govt run the way push says it should be they would do more. i dont think they want it his way but will not say anything. iraq is on the verge of becoming a new us territory. how about the thought running around that we may go into iran i think that would be a huge mistake! iran is one of those countries that would definately escalate things to a full blown all out war if we did. lot of talk about expanding army and marines. where is the manpower going to come from the draft! bring it back what are your thoughts on the draft being introduced see above .

From : nosey

if ever . . . . have you heard anything about when they will vote for a raise for their minimum wage i noticed on fox that another fox poll shows over 90% of the people responding to the poll say the democrat congress will do nothing about illegal immigration. why am i not surprised yea because the republicans did so much about it in the 12 years they had to work with lol!!! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

1998 dodge ram 1500 truck club cab. short box sport model. 5.9 liter v8 91000 miles 4 wheel drive runs great not perfect but pretty nice overall and priced to sell. ive used it mainly to commute to work with some occasional light hauling. never pulled anything with it or had it off-road. we have three vehicles now and i dont really utilize it for what its intended for. located in southern edgerton wi. call or email with questions. 608-884-9560 .

From : john kunkel

i wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against gm - if you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a dodge ctd it enters leap home mode obviously dodge is the superior product but what kind of damage did this fool do to his own truck also the idiot should get out of the left hand lane if he cant keep up with traffic! thanks for the post i was considering a duramax for a while. it might has helped if he had the uhaul truck facing to the front without all the wind resistance. pehaps but it was probably loaded that way to put the weight on the trailer wheels. he made a claim that he was totaling nearly 23k in weight. is that correct my dodge vehicle manual shows about 20k max. i think so. he said during the video he was 300 lbs. under max weight rating i think ford is claiming close to or over 25000 with their tow boss package my 96 3500 club cab automatic 4x4 3.54 gears was max trailer rated at 9700 lbs. my 01 3500 quad cab six speed 4x4 4.10 gears is rated at 14300. i take that back..i was not looking at fifth wheel. it jumps to19200 whith a 350 with the tow boss with fifth wheel..i was looking at conventional towing. .

From : roy

i wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against gm - if you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a dodge ctd it enters leap home mode obviously dodge is the superior product but what kind of damage did this fool do to his own truck also the idiot should get out of the left hand lane if he cant keep up with traffic! thanks for the post i was considering a duramax for a while. it might has helped if he had the uhaul truck facing to the front without all the wind resistance. pehaps but it was probably loaded that way to put the weight on the trailer wheels. he made a claim that he was totaling nearly 23k in weight. is that correct my dodge vehicle manual shows about 20k max. i think so. he said during the video he was 300 lbs. under max weight rating i think ford is claiming close to or over 25000 with their tow boss package my 96 3500 club cab automatic 4x4 3.54 gears was max trailer rated at 9700 lbs. my 01 3500 quad cab six speed 4x4 4.10 gears is rated at 14300. i just looked on the ford site. it is listing 26000 with an outrageous 4.30 rear axle ratio but the trailer max weights are still nearly the same as my 2000 dodge. except dodge then listed trailer at 16k not 15k as ford. so it seems their marketing is not all that truthful. they call it tow boss but tow capacities are the same even without that package only the gcvw is greater. .

From : tbone

i confessed my sins to god. he forgave me. budd and you know that how two-way conversation with god you know what they say when you talk to god its called prayer when god talks to you its called schizophrenia. .

From : azwiley1

well if youre going to name it after me then i should be the one to set the doctrinology. nope buddism is a whole way of life based on your actions. followers of buddism get to be as critical rude and insulting as you are. we refer to you by your given name actually a nickname chucky or chuckie you may select the spelling. .

From : tom lawrence

it is not as small as you would have us believe. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote minority attitude huh lol. you really need to pull your head out of the sand and look around a little. stock holders are starting to bash companies that overpay their ceos that issue is a very very small number of people yet you make it a huge issue over and over and over. .

From : nosey

im most familiar with the kjv. when i use the term bible that version is what im referring to. i never cared much for the new american and i cant read . should have read as i cant read hebrew. apparently usenet doesnt like hebrew fonts. -- ken .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote you forgot to mention how they took the day off for a ball game . . . . thats true. this so called 100 hours starts when they say it does and includes only hours they say it does. .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote like i thought not man enough. really are you man enough to confess your sins to god and then make a change in your life you wont confess the sin of your actions here in this chat room. you dont see it and never will. .

From : tbone

look at myself i do every day and can smile at myself and be happy. look in the mirror pal. it has been told to you repeatedly but you are too blind to see anything that no one in here is making issue about your beliefs!!! we all however take offense and/or have a problem with the fact that will not stop forcing them on everone else. everyone has said repeatedly that you are free to live and believe as you wish but please do not force it upon us. had you respected the desires of others as the good book says you should none of this would have happen. you have or atleast had a lot to contribute to this group until you started making everything a religious issue. budd go back and read everything you did this its not the way you want to see things. budd cochran wrote and you cannot or worse will not see that all i gave was a description of the denomination as compared to mainstream christianity. my opinion of them is not mentioned. so what you compared them to mainstream christianity. what about the statement you made a few posts ago when you flat out stated that someone was a poor example of thier religion or would you care to continue on avoiding the fact that you did wtf gives you the right to judge someone else and their religion your problem with me is blinding you to what is actually being said or written larry. look at yourself. look how vicious and mean you are over this towards me for my beliefs. once again this is not about your beliefs or your religion its about your actions. budd i and just about everyone in here could honestly care less if you came to believe that when a bear farts in the woods no one hears it. those are your beliefs. period! they are not mine roys toms guys stephens they are yours. the angst in here is directed at you not religion not god not beliefs at you! get that through your head! youre doing what you accuse me of. that makes you better than me less guilty i said it once ill say it again. with the way you are acting toward people you once called friends i would hope that i would get hit by a truck if i started to act like you. anyone that is a true friend and even those that are only associates would understand and respect that when a lack of interested in expressed that you do not keep forcing it. that is where you fail you dont understand that and you dont respect that! .

From : budd cochran

and you cannot or worse will not see that all i gave was a description of the denomination as compared to mainstream christianity. my opinion of them is not mentioned. your problem with me is blinding you to what is actually being said or written larry. look at yourself. look how vicious and mean you are over this towards me for my beliefs. youre doing what you accuse me of. that makes you better than me less guilty budd budd cochran wrote the church of thelatter day saints denomination is not a christian denomination. their gods are exalted humans with limited abilities. they dont even follow their own holy book the book of mormon which is closer to the bible than anything they believe or teach in spite of over 300 recorded changes made in the text since 1835 the first printing date. budd what difference does any of that make it is his religion it is a valid form of religion and therefore should be respected and accepted as such whether we may agree with their teachings or not. so we see again that if it is not your religion and your beliefs they are wrong. so now once again you are attacking some one elses beliefs. how mighty christian of you. funny you can preach to us all that we are bigots and that we are heathens and that we hate religion yet proven by your own statements you are all the above. i never recall anywhere in my catholic school days anytime during my confirmation days or anytime before i denounced now please read this carefully organized religion not religion completely where jesus has told anyone to do anything but love and accept his/her brother/sister. where is your acceptance and love of others messenger budd cochran wrote if youre actually lds youre a darn poor example. but then i follow a jewish carpenter not a con artist. budd and how do you know you getting more pussy -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i confessed my sins to god. he forgave me. budd actually budd it was both. but at least im man enough to admit to it. what about you -- -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote stephen i appreciate you kind words and concern. thank you sir. i am constant in prayer for myself the group and for my antagonists...and i believe in miracles. vbg well carry on as you feel you must. religious quotation in seemingly unusual places e.g. a truck group doesnt particularly bother me. if the topic comes up . . . . ; i am curious though; is your wife as actively christian as you now are you said she was the one that brought you back to the church but i dont know if that meant simply got you going to church or actively christian. sorry i must have said it wrong or something. my wife introduced me to christianity in 77 then for many years i wasnt as committed to christ as i am today. like many folks as the scripture says i was closer to god with my words than i was with my heart. now i am fully devoted to him. i have visions of the two of you going house to house on weekends trying to convert the heathen of your neighborhood. nope. nowhere in the scriptures does jesus or the disciples go from door to door nor do they buttonhole people. they did go to public places and preach teach and answer question like paul did at mars hill when he was being questioned. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

do you believe that one person has more of a right to choose their religion than another person nope but i am required by my beliefs to teach the truth. i take that to mean that you /do/ agree that one person has no more right to choose their religion than another person. right. i didnt ask you about teaching any truths but i dont think thats what you meant anyway. dont change my words i said what i meant based on my beliefs which demand i say what i mean. iow lying not allowed its a sin. im not implying that you are a liar. i should have simply said that i didnt ask you about teaching. more on the truth below. perhaps you meant that you are required by your beliefs to teach your faith. my faith is my faith your results may be different. i am called to teach the truth. you obviously understand there is a difference between faith and truth but id like to make sure that i understand completely what you mean. if you disagree with any of the following feel free to add your own definitions. you know id ask later anyway. so how can i drop this thread if you keep asking me things ; do you agree that truth is a verified or indisputable fact yes. do you agree that faith is a belief that is not based on proof yes. do you agree that believing something could be true does not automatically make it truth no. believing the sky is green because 2 or more say it is green doesnt make it so however the bible doesnt fll into that category because there is more evidence available to verify it than there is for plato socrates or even buddha. i think you know as well as i do that there is not evidence to support everything in the bible. it cannot be verified. the accuracy of the bible is only opinion. its a popular opinion but as you said because 2 or more say its green doesnt make it so. it may appear to just be insignificant semantics but it makes a very big difference in the meaning. its not semantics its truth. funny how people will follow very poorly supported philosophies like plato or socrates but revile the one with the best support the bible. im not all that familiar with plato and socrates. i am very familiar with the bible. is there something about the philosophers that you would like to discuss only that there is more evidence for the accuracy and in kind the truth of the kjv than for any greek philosopher. im most familiar with the kjv. when i use the term bible that version is what im referring to. i never cared much for the new american and i cant read . what if one persons religious practices are disrespectful to another persons religious belief who has more of a right then as in yours is direspectful of mine you answered it for yourself. im asking you a question about what you believe. i cant possibly answer that for myself. you have to do it on your own. if you cant answer it for yourself then your beliefs are a real mess. i know what it means to me. i was asking you to tell me what it means to you. nothing more nothing less. so please answer the question what if one persons religious practices are disrespectful to another persons religious belief who has more of a right then neither. but it does not stop truth from being truth whether its accepted or not. i completely agree with that. im done with your assasinations. huh take a deep breath budd. im just asking simple questions. i havent said one mean thing to you. i even said please at least once. sorry ken im getting a bit punchy from the others. i apologize. they do tend to gang up on a person when they can. .

From : budd cochran

if ever . . . . have you heard anything about when they will vote for a raise for their minimum wage i noticed on fox that another fox poll shows over 90% of the people responding to the poll say the democrat congress will do nothing about illegal immigration. why am i not surprised budd budd cochran wrote you forgot to mention how they took the day off for a ball game . . . . thats true. this so called 100 hours starts when they say it does and includes only hours they say it does. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

well if youre going to name it after me then i should be the one to set the doctrinology. first get a bible second read it. well discuss more doctrine later when youve finished that. budd lol im not upset ken. i am tired of feeding the sharks though. besides so far and i hope it continues its been quite pleasant and refreshing to speak with you. then you should be just thrilled to hear from me. what do you think of my conversion to buddism i think i have most of the key teachings down although i might of missed one or two. if so im sure ill pick up on it. im going to do my best to emulate you i know youll be pleased. remember in buddism like you taught us all as soon as ken says anything that is not strictly in line with the beliefs of buddism well thats when ya turn on him call him all kinds of names threaten him with prosection you know the drill hell youve done it to everybody. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. if you cant read it and understand it that way then you are truly close minded. budd budd cochran wrote whatever miles your minds made up and nothing would ever change it. not even if i showed you scripture to the contrary. thats your interpretation of scripture. most christians have a better view. they dont have the absurd belief that the bible tells them to piss on all and shove their beliefs down peoples throats. thats why we have wars based on religion. learn to get along with all. thats the best way to spread your faith. your method shoves people away from it. good thing most christians spread their faith in more effective ways. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

the church of thelatter day saints denomination is not a christian denomination. their gods are exalted humans with limited abilities. they dont even follow their own holy book the book of mormon which is closer to the bible than anything they believe or teach in spite of over 300 recorded changes made in the text since 1835 the first printing date. budd so now once again you are attacking some one elses beliefs. how mighty christian of you. funny you can preach to us all that we are bigots and that we are heathens and that we hate religion yet proven by your own statements you are all the above. i never recall anywhere in my catholic school days anytime during my confirmation days or anytime before i denounced now please read this carefully organized religion not religion completely where jesus has told anyone to do anything but love and accept his/her brother/sister. where is your acceptance and love of others messenger budd cochran wrote if youre actually lds youre a darn poor example. but then i follow a jewish carpenter not a con artist. budd and how do you know you getting more pussy -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i confessed my sins to god. he forgave me. budd actually budd it was both. but at least im man enough to admit to it. what about you -- -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote lol im not upset ken. i am tired of feeding the sharks though. besides so far and i hope it continues its been quite pleasant and refreshing to speak with you. what can i do for you and what the heck do you do that calls for such crazy hours i thought being assistant manager in a cab company was rough with calls at all hours or being the entire maintenance crew for an assisted living facility on call 24/7/52 but. . . . budd i work 12 hour shifts in the inspection lanes at a truck freight terminal. i refuel and inspect inbound units and do d.o.t. safety inspections on trailers and converter dollies. i start at 600 pm and work until 630 am. my evening drive to work normally takes me about 35 minutes in traffic but it can take as long as an hour on any given day. that means that i have to leave home at 445 to ensure i have enough time to change into my uniform and get clocked in if traffic is bad. i can almost always get home in about 30 minutes. thats over 14 hours a day with the commute time. it doesnt leave much time for anything other than work and sleep on the days that i work. the good thing is the number of off days. we have a rotating 2-week schedule. the work periods are tues-wed thurs-fri and sat-sun-mon. if i work tues-wed im off thurs-fri then work sat-sun-mon. the way it rotates around i work every other weekend. in the 14 day period i only have to work 7 days but i still get 84 hours in. -- ken good lord man. my older brother worked at the d.o.t. test center outside pueblo co many years ago and his commute time was 1 1/2 hours each way. that gives me a bit of perspective as to your job. my wife does four ten hour shifts a week at our local hospital but thats only a block and a half from the house so she walks it when weather permits. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote the church of thelatter day saints denomination is not a christian denomination. their gods are exalted humans with limited abilities. they dont even follow their own holy book the book of mormon which is closer to the bible than anything they believe or teach in spite of over 300 recorded changes made in the text since 1835 the first printing date. budd what difference does any of that make it is his religion it is a valid form of religion and therefore should be respected and accepted as such whether we may agree with their teachings or not. so we see again that if it is not your religion and your beliefs they are wrong. so now once again you are attacking some one elses beliefs. how mighty christian of you. funny you can preach to us all that we are bigots and that we are heathens and that we hate religion yet proven by your own statements you are all the above. i never recall anywhere in my catholic school days anytime during my confirmation days or anytime before i denounced now please read this carefully organized religion not religion completely where jesus has told anyone to do anything but love and accept his/her brother/sister. where is your acceptance and love of others messenger budd cochran wrote if youre actually lds youre a darn poor example. but then i follow a jewish carpenter not a con artist. budd and how do you know you getting more pussy -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i confessed my sins to god. he forgave me. budd actually budd it was both. but at least im man enough to admit to it. what about you -- -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : stephen harding

i do have reservations when cummins comes out with the v8. the ford and gmc izusu really dont compare. it seems straight cylinder engines have had a good history for being reliable and producing more torque. both the ford and chevy gasoline straight sixes were very good long lasting engines... dont forget the leaning tower of power. the slant six is a inline desighn. i guess the v8 stuff is for marketing and fad. that may be id guess its because thats what the manufacturers feel that the consumers want. most people looking to buy a half ton hasnt ever owned a diesel or had experience with one. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote whatever miles your minds made up and nothing would ever change it. not even if i showed you scripture to the contrary. thats your interpretation of scripture. most christians have a better view. they dont have the absurd belief that the bible tells them to piss on all and shove their beliefs down peoples throats. thats why we have wars based on religion. learn to get along with all. thats the best way to spread your faith. your method shoves people away from it. good thing most christians spread their faith in more effective ways. .

From : nosey

bigironram wrote bigironram wrote check out the duramax video! cant keep up with an old dodge / cummins http//videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af013f4333.htm i like my old 24 valve dodge. i just sent this to a friend that tows a camper and horses with a d-max. i wonder what shell have to say about it. -- ken you sent that to a d-max owner! cool send her this one too! http//videos.streetfire.net/search/dodge+2500/0/3c5e0a72-7e12-4322-b38b-57d0f20f787b.htm same tug different video can be found here http//www.chevyavalanchefanclub.com/cafcna/index.php/topic50912.0.html its a chevy forum. its kind of funny how those guys thought the chevy won. until jimddd sets them straight. reputable source i think so. -- ken .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote stephen i appreciate you kind words and concern. thank you sir. i am constant in prayer for myself the group and for my antagonists...and i believe in miracles. vbg well carry on as you feel you must. religious quotation in seemingly unusual places e.g. a truck group doesnt particularly bother me. i am curious though; is your wife as actively christian as you now are you said she was the one that brought you back to the church but i dont know if that meant simply got you going to church or actively christian. i have visions of the two of you going house to house on weekends trying to convert the heathen of your neighborhood. smh .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote lol im not upset ken. i am tired of feeding the sharks though. besides so far and i hope it continues its been quite pleasant and refreshing to speak with you. what can i do for you and what the heck do you do that calls for such crazy hours i thought being assistant manager in a cab company was rough with calls at all hours or being the entire maintenance crew for an assisted living facility on call 24/7/52 but. . . . budd i work 12 hour shifts in the inspection lanes at a truck freight terminal. i refuel and inspect inbound units and do d.o.t. safety inspections on trailers and converter dollies. i start at 600 pm and work until 630 am. my evening drive to work normally takes me about 35 minutes in traffic but it can take as long as an hour on any given day. that means that i have to leave home at 445 to ensure i have enough time to change into my uniform and get clocked in if traffic is bad. i can almost always get home in about 30 minutes. thats over 14 hours a day with the commute time. it doesnt leave much time for anything other than work and sleep on the days that i work. the good thing is the number of off days. we have a rotating 2-week schedule. the work periods are tues-wed thurs-fri and sat-sun-mon. if i work tues-wed im off thurs-fri then work sat-sun-mon. the way it rotates around i work every other weekend. in the 14 day period i only have to work 7 days but i still get 84 hours in. -- ken .

From : roy

let give you this to think on if im going to be of a certain set of beliefs in one group then if ive truly taken that set of beliefs for myself i would be the same in any group i attend correct youve just proved that my commitment is genuine. thank you. let me give you this to think on. he has shown that you continue to be a friggin idiot every where you go. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

bright red we call her bart big assed red truck its now 2 years old i put 65k on it pulling a 15k 5th wheeler all over this country. only 15k when its rated for 19k ;- and i still got a smile on my face i cant get off when passing them fords going up a mountain and the ole ford is pumping fuel outta the exhaust pipe..... -- i do have reservations when cummins comes out with the v8. the ford and gmc izusu really dont compare. it seems straight cylinder engines have had a good history for being reliable and producing more torque. both the ford and chevy gasoline straight sixes were very good long lasting engines... i guess the v8 stuff is for marketing and fad. the jurys still out here. in not going to buy one but ill wait and see what those that do say. -- ------moparman------ ---signature pending yet another assine comment by mianderson--- .

From : budd cochran

two nights ago during a heavy downpour if that has any bearing my headlights interior lights fog lights or driving lights the round ones factory installed in the front bumper parking lights the bed light and the power door locks all quit working. turn signals and brake lights still work fine. is there something that all of these connect to that could cause this they all started working briefly again last night for about five minutes and now nothing. please help! i dont know if the following information has any bearing but my seat belt chime has never worked nor has my steering wheel lock. also at least twice in the year i have had it the automatic shifter would freeze and not shift out of park unless i moved the tilt mechanism a few times up and down then it would shift again. thank you for any replies! check grounds and electrical connecters .

From : budd cochran

lol im not upset ken. i am tired of feeding the sharks though. besides so far and i hope it continues its been quite pleasant and refreshing to speak with you. what can i do for you and what the heck do you do that calls for such crazy hours i thought being assistant manager in a cab company was rough with calls at all hours or being the entire maintenance crew for an assisted living facility on call 24/7/52 but. . . . budd budd cochran wrote no sweat ken. if its easier for you we could go email. itd give some in here less to complain about. i dont mind discussing it openly. i just read up all the recent posts. if you want to cool off for a while its ok with me. -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

whatever miles your minds made up and nothing would ever change it. not even if i showed you scripture to the contrary. budd budd cochran wrote ah . . .so you think you are gods messenger um...nope! i am no more than you. rotflmbo!!!!! what youre saying is not consistent with the word of god. jesus said to go forth evangelize teach preach and defend the faith you are saying the exact opposite. hmm . . .i think ill take gods word over yours. jesus did not say to use the absurd methods you use. he never said to irritate people until they succumb or are driven away. that was never his way at all. youve warped christianity to an extreme interpretation of it whether you believe it or not. jesus was about loving they neighbor. not love thy neighbor only if they agree with your views otherwise piss on them. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

if youre actually lds youre a darn poor example. but then i follow a jewish carpenter not a con artist. budd and how do you know you getting more pussy -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . i confessed my sins to god. he forgave me. budd actually budd it was both. but at least im man enough to admit to it. what about you -- -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : nosey

like i thought not man enough. really are you man enough to confess your sins to god and then make a change in your life budd -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i confessed my sins to god. he forgave me. budd actually budd it was both. but at least im man enough to admit to it. what about you -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving or even more unlikely a confession . . . budd tbone wrote and in the past i did bring much of it on myself. but that was the past... whoa!!! a conversion smh -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

the first time i watched it i missed the part about 300 lbs under the gcwr i was getting bored with the idiot. maybe it just demonstrates that if one tows near the maximum capicity of ones truck one shouldnt keep the accelerator floored - especially going up hill. i too liked that the ac stopped working is 91 degrees hot and there was an audible warning about the coolant temperature. i searched for keystone cougar 5th wheel campers and found that they can go from 5740-8500 lbs dry weight up to 12300 lbs fully loaded. if my memory serves that jeep weighs about 3500 lbs. therefore the dodge was towing between 9200 and 15800 lbs. pretty impressive if the hills were as steep as the guy suggests. i wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against gm - if you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a dodge ctd it enters leap home mode obviously dodge is the superior product but what kind of damage did this fool do to his own truck also the idiot should get out of the left hand lane if he cant keep up with traffic! thanks for the post i was considering a duramax for a while. it might has helped if he had the uhaul truck facing to the front without all the wind resistance. pehaps but it was probably loaded that way to put the weight on the trailer wheels. he made a claim that he was totaling nearly 23k in weight. is that correct my dodge vehicle manual shows about 20k max. i think so. he said during the video he was 300 lbs. under max weight rating i think ford is claiming close to or over 25000 with their tow boss package my 96 3500 club cab automatic 4x4 3.54 gears was max trailer rated at 9700 lbs. my 01 3500 quad cab six speed 4x4 4.10 gears is rated at 14300. .

From : roy

the same budd. well let me restate that he was doing in in those groups so maybe we are special after all. roy wrote well guys i guess we are not special after all. good ol self proclaimed messenger of god is doing the same self righteous i am correct you are all bigots and heathens cram it down your throat like it or not preaching in the following groups and from the looks of it he is alienating everyone there too. sci.med.cardiology alt.support.diabetes here i was hoping that we were his special flock! what name is he using i didnt see it. .

From : tbone

we think alike. if i caught him driving my truck that way hed be seriously injured. ive pushed my equipment pretty doggone hard but that 240 260 degree stuff was just abuse. its not illegal to slow down and downshift to cool it off. you dont have to run with the big dogs all day. i was impressed with the computer management system protecting the truck from stupidity. cutting the a/c off on him was pretty amusing. ive also had thoughts about a duramax. 360 hp and 650 ft/lbs is pretty darn sweet with a six speed alison. i went looking around a little as near as i could determine running hot is common overheating much less common. but lets put this in perspective. medium duty trucks are pretty well limited to 300 hp unless its to be an rv hauler or fire truck then its 350 hp. the 300 hp medium duty trucks come with 860 to 1000 sq. inch radiators. how do you get that capacity in a pick up and the weight ratings tow are into the medium duty categories as well. i smell marketing hype. i wonder how well the new ford 6.4 is going to do i hear theres stacks and stacks of turbos at the ford dealers due to the vanes seizing up. i heard no idling and dont let it sit for 2 weeks or more thats all ive heard and only from one source. i wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against gm - if you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a dodge ctd it enters leap home mode obviously dodge is the superior product but what kind of damage did this fool do to his own truck also the idiot should get out of the left hand lane if he cant keep up with traffic! thanks for the post i was considering a duramax for a while. check out the duramax video! cant keep up with an old dodge / cummins http//videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af013f4333.htm .

From : roy

i got to change the starter on my 2000 ctd. taking a peek underneath on what tools i will be needing i see unfamilair bolts holding the starter in place. they look like male torx bits. what are these called so when i go looking for tools to remove them thanks. gb .

From : stormin mormon

on thu 11 jan 2007 180622 -0700 lost.@the wrote as a mechanic out of the trade for 20 years or more and not worked on any diesel engines do i dare try a r & r of a injection pump i hear it can be a real bear to time them with out tools and trainingdo i just bite the bullet and pay a shop thanks for your input lost your 93 isnt a lot different from my 89 it is no big deal i r&r mine when the shaft seal went out. the only thing special you might want to have is the turning tool from cummins or genos. take lots of pictures mark everything crank it over to tdc verified with the plunger then disconnect eveyrthing and lift it out. there is some good info available i will find it and post the url here .

From : tbone

the isp is. perhaps you should refer back to the rules when you signed up. along with spamming if you post things deemed offensive or even inappropriate for a given ng and someone complains you will probably start off with a warning from the usenet admin of your isp but could wind up having your usenet privileges revoked. ok so lets say that you have a valid point here and some one did take the whole topic of discussion as offensive. what makes this any different then what the messenger has been doing i personally find it extremely offensive to have some one elses morals values beliefs and religion force upon me repeatedly after being asked to stop. shall we report the messenger to his isp fyi i dont recall reading anything as such with in my isps info. i may have missed it though. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote ah . . .so you think you are gods messenger um...nope! i am no more than you. rotflmbo!!!!! what youre saying is not consistent with the word of god. jesus said to go forth evangelize teach preach and defend the faith you are saying the exact opposite. hmm . . .i think ill take gods word over yours. jesus did not say to use the absurd methods you use. he never said to irritate people until they succumb or are driven away. that was never his way at all. youve warped christianity to an extreme interpretation of it whether you believe it or not. jesus was about loving they neighbor. not love thy neighbor only if they agree with your views otherwise piss on them. .

From : tbone

the isp is. perhaps you should refer back to the rules when you signed up. along with spamming if you post things deemed offensive or even inappropriate for a given ng and someone complains you will probably start off with a warning from the usenet admin of your isp but could wind up having your usenet privileges revoked. ok so lets say that you have a valid point here and some one did take the whole topic of discussion as offensive. what makes this any different then what the messenger has been doing i personally find it extremely offensive to have some one elses morals values beliefs and religion force upon me repeatedly after being asked to stop. just because someone takes a subject as offensive doesnt make it so but if there is something that could be taken that way or inappropriate content then they are obligated to do something. in most cases it is just a warning that can be ignored but they can do more. shall we report the messenger to his isp actually you could report it and he might get a warning about posting off-topic posts at a high frequency. fyi i dont recall reading anything as such with in my isps info. i may have missed it though. just about nobody reads it but it is there just the same. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : azwiley1

tbone wrote damn i thought you were budd for a second. i should have known that he would not be man enough to admit to it. as for roys keyboard it is probably a 5 pin din ;- damn i think i am hurt by that one. confusing me with the messenger -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote oh give me a break budd you harbor a huge resentment against me and denying it just increases the extent of the untruth. tom if it will make you feel any better i harbor resentment toward you and admit it. vbg -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving the only problem ken is that i wasnt harboring any grudges against anyone in this group and still dont but many chose to take offense that i made a decision to try to live closer to my god and what he wants me to be. so who is it really that needs to let bygones be bygones budd budd cochran wrote since you disagree http//www.fox.com/story/0293324211700.html enjoy! budd and a related story for budd http//www.fox.com/story/0293324129800.html ;^ -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

azwiley1 wrote diana wrote i need a picture of this engine can any one help me find one thanks. what kind of picture are you looking for just a picture or something that you would find in a service manual or engine repair manual i need a picture of the engine so i can find a hose on it to replace it .. i have one thats is bad and i need to replace it my manual dont have a 2.4 engine view. thanks .

From : miles

i wonder what kind of law suit he was trying to bring against gm - if you repeatedly over heat your engine trying to keep up with a dodge ctd it enters leap home mode obviously dodge is the superior product but what kind of damage did this fool do to his own truck also the idiot should get out of the left hand lane if he cant keep up with traffic! thanks for the post i was considering a duramax for a while. check out the duramax video! cant keep up with an old dodge / cummins http//videos.streetfire.net/search/money+maker/0/b108e8c2-25df-4054-8090-98af013f4333.htm .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote i have. i told you that you cant go to heaven without being a christian according to the bibles teachings not mans or any denominations teachings. as for friendship you burnt that bridge when you rejected my new commitment to my faiths and all that required. you rejected me not i you. it was your choice to do so. i accept that decision by you. i never said you should reject your faith. i told you thats great if thats what you want. but you decided that everyone else must make the same commitment or they cant be your friend. the rejection was on your part. not anyone elses. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote nor did he tell my friends to reject me for my commitment to him. that isnt why they reject you budd. its is your attitude towards them that causes you to be rejected not the other way around. quit acting all so innocent and a victim!! thats the rub no one is respecting my beliefs and all want me to revert back to the way i was. nope aint gonna happen. nobody says you have to give up your religion. theyre asking you to treat others with the same respect you wish of them. you do no such thing. you piss on them and say its part of your religion. how would you know the disciples were all martyred for their faith why should i beany less zealous youre not a disciple so quit trying to be one. youre also not a victim as they were. nobody here has told you to give up your faith or else. why is it so difficult for you to have any respect for others who do not share your faith is that what you feel god teaches if christianity were outlawed tomorrow as some of you hope for i want to be on the number one most wanted poster. people here are not upset at christianity. they are upset at you and only you for the way you attempt to shove your beliefs onto others. again i have never ever told you that you are wrong for your beliefs. i have never ever told you to believe otherwise. however you have done just that with me and many others here. thats the issue budd. its not your faith thats at issue. its you! no christianity as compared to what it was in the time of christ is a watered down corrupted shadow of its former self. most denominations teach works to earn salvation instead of grace most hide the light of the world the christ under a bushel most teach that a good christian hides in a corner and never says anything to disturb the masses. christ never taught people to shove their religion down peoples throats and keep it up with total disrespect until they are completely pissed off and driven away. that would be your radical warped take on it all. im done with this stuff from you. if you cant accept me then its your loss. i dont give a darn if you all k.f. me. you will be accepted when you decide to accept others for who they are instead of telling them they have to be like you. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote of course you will say that miles especially since your party as pretty much screwed the pooch and most americans for the past 6 to 7 years. so far the dems in just a short period have already gone against their own bs campaign rhetoric. pelosi stated her first order of business would be this so called 100 hours to pass 6 bills regarding 9/11 committee recommendations. she stated over and over how this would be the very first thing on the agenda. well guess what. the first thing on her agenda was to get a bill passed making it much easier to raise taxes. had nothing to do with 9/11. there were several other bills passed as well. pelosi is a flat out bs artist just like those she accuses. .

From : budd cochran

now that would be the exact opposite of true buddism. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving roy here is the 1st commandment of buddism. ye shalt not dish it if ye cant take it! .

From : tbone

roy wrote okay to keep peace in the flock and to appease some of the members who made valid points for a change. mainly keeping my young ass out of trouble real or imagined i am converting from pussy to drum roll please... buddism!!!!! thats right buddism. it has its perks that we can all use equally. if somebody disagrees with you ya can call him a bigot or accuse him/her of bashing. you can accuse them of all sorts hate crimes threaten them with all kinds of violations to the bill of rights the constitution you name its covered. most importantly you can live your life in a state of total denial. you automatically become correct in every thing you say every hair brained idea or thought you have becomes gospel. you can say things to piss others off and it doesnt matter because you have embraced buddism. the one big difference of this sect of buddism is your friends are still your friends. im sure others will start their own sect of buddism thats wonderful cause there is a bunch of people in this world that havent been pissed off yet by budddism. oh one other thing. this sect of buddism does not require you to become totally blind or give up your political beliefs or surrender your common sense. so i figure miles and t-bone can join with no problem at all. will buddism accept beer as a fellow form of religoin with out bigotry and hatred only if we dont have to buy the beer. .

From : Annonymous

on thu 11 jan 2007 185401 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote okay to keep peace in the flock and to appease some of the members who made valid points for a change. mainly keeping my young ass out of trouble real or imagined i am converting from pussy to drum roll please... buddism!!!!! thats right buddism. wow!!!!!!! after being gone for about a week and reading about 300 posts since i got home from work im gonna join the .45acp cult. it has provisions for the .223 and the 30-06 to be on stand-by in case of emergency. the .50 mag is the sargent-at-arms. if all else fails ole mauser is the guard dog standing by the door. and no i dont have the machine.... with all this deception on the location im starting to think ole red upsd it to you so you could rehabilitate your shoulder...bg denny well.................dont discriminate against me because i belong to the .45gap cult. be careful cause if you critisize the gap ill tell your isp. .

From : Annonymous

okay to keep peace in the flock and to appease some of the members who made valid points for a change. mainly keeping my young ass out of trouble real or imagined i am converting from pussy to drum roll please... buddism!!!!! thats right buddism. wow!!!!!!! after being gone for about a week and reading about 300 posts since i got home from work im gonna join the .45acp cult. it has provisions for the .223 and the 30-06 to be on stand-by in case of emergency. the .50 mag is the sargent-at-arms. if all else fails ole mauser is the guard dog standing by the door. and no i dont have the machine.... with all this deception on the location im starting to think ole red upsd it to you so you could rehabilitate your shoulder...bg denny .

From : Annonymous

on thu 11 jan 2007 152604 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 11 jan 2007 135414 -0500 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote actually the pinhead does have a point. you are introducing a sexually based conversation into a ng that children may be reading and in all honesty it is in poor taste. ya can agree with him if you want but he will still hate you. cause he hates himself. i am agreeing with him because i really would not like to see you get burned trying to make a valid point. as for him hating me big deal. he formed that attitude years ago when i said he was wrong about something god forbid. i was this attitude in him years ago and wrote him off then myself. i am using the word not describing it. also if i believe in it its gotta be okay. it seems to work for others as a excuse for assholeish actions. but if folks are offended im sure i can come up with somthing else. maybe ill join larrys religion. beer! like i said you are making a valid point but the word that you are using is probably offensive to some and just about everyone knows what it is in reference to geez tom get the fuck off of it. who do you think you are. somebody that doesnt want to see roy get burned over something as silly as this. what about you okay okay ill convert to a new one. i sorta like buddism. gotta think on it for a bit. how do you know what does it mean to you. dont you think that you should get back under that bed with your m-16 and wait for the invasion hey whats wrong with having a ar a very nice weapon with a scope and bi-pod. i really enjoy mine. guy i didnt know you also had one thought it was myself and denny. i have a m4. same thing really. scope actually a couple. no bi-pod........yet that is. it isnt under my bed though just in case you were wondering. in my gun safe............with my other very nice guns. larry is on the right track with his beer religion as even if it is offensive to some in the religious sector it is a beverage and nothing more. difficult to form a complaint that an isp could do much about there and yet still brings the point home about how silly budd is being. or perhaps denny will turn loose the machine and we can pay homage to it. i doubt that denny has anywhere near enough firepower to get that machine away from red. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : stormin mormon

not until you mention it. but now that you do.... wow thats painful. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. here ya go! pussy very appropriate for thyis group. ever notice how the dodge rams head logo resembles the female reproductive system .

From : budd cochran

napalmheart wrote i got to change the starter on my 2000 ctd. taking a peek underneath on what tools i will be needing i see unfamilair bolts holding the starter in place. they look like male torx bits. what are these called so when i go looking for tools to remove them thanks. gb for lack of a better term i would call them external torx. ken more like say an 8 point socket head .

From : tbone

just because someone takes a subject as offensive doesnt make it so but if there is something that could be taken that way or inappropriate content then they are obligated to do something. in most cases it is just a warning that can be ignored but they can do more. ok color me confused here. if something is said that i find to be offensive to me my beliefs yada yada yada. how is that not offensive if i were to talk to you about something that you found it to be offensive wouldnt that be so if not please enlighten me. just about nobody reads it but it is there just the same. never said i didnt read it just dont recall seeing something in there specifically about this subject matter. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

right now sice you wouldnt be bothered to look there are court cases concerning the practice of christianity in the form of lawsuits to permit the veterans cross to remain in southern california the displaying of nativity scenes at christmas or to even be able to say merry christmas for that matter the right to have christian bible studys outside of the classrooms in schools or to have a morning prayer by christian kids across the street from the school that are being handled by the aclj. uh huh... none of which are about one individual violating the rights of another individual by disagreement. and id be willing to venture that all of the above-mentioned lawsuits deal with some person or entity of authority infringing on anothers right to religion speech or expression. no one here has any authority over you budd... therefore no one is capable of denying you any right. and what is being done in this group in these threads is no different in that christians are being told they cannot live and post according to their beliefs in this group without being harrassed for it according to the aclj. no budd... people are telling you - just you - that theyre tired of reading your rhetoric over and over and over again. however as youve so aptly demonstrated that has no effect on you because you continue to go on and on and on. doesnt sound like someone oppressed to me. disagreed with sure... oppressed hardly. you still have the ability to click the send button dont you .

From : roy

azwiley1 wrote napalmheart wrote geekboy wrote i got to change the starter on my 2000 ctd. taking a peek underneath on what tools i will be needing i see unfamilair bolts holding the starter in place. they look like male torx bits. what are these called so when i go looking for tools to remove them thanks. gb for lack of a better term i would call them external torx. ken more like say an 8 point socket head ....or 12-point. theyve been used in the past on occaision. bryan .

From : budd cochran

or even more unlikely a confession . . . budd tbone wrote and in the past i did bring much of it on myself. but that was the past... whoa!!! a conversion smh -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

i got to change the starter on my 2000 ctd. taking a peek underneath on what tools i will be needing i see unfamilair bolts holding the starter in place. they look like male torx bits. what are these called so when i go looking for tools to remove them thanks. gb for lack of a better term i would call them external torx. ken .

From : stephen harding

okay to keep peace in the flock and to appease some of the members who made valid points for a change. mainly keeping my young ass out of trouble real or imagined i am converting from pussy to drum roll please... buddism!!!!! thats right buddism. it has its perks that we can all use equally. if somebody disagrees with you ya can call him a bigot or accuse him/her of bashing. you can accuse them of all sorts hate crimes threaten them with all kinds of violations to the bill of rights the constitution you name its covered. most importantly you can live your life in a state of total denial. you automatically become correct in every thing you say every hair brained idea or thought you have becomes gospel. you can say things to piss others off and it doesnt matter because you have embraced buddism. the one big difference of this sect of buddism is your friends are still your friends. im sure others will start their own sect of buddism thats wonderful cause there is a bunch of people in this world that havent been pissed off yet by budddism. oh one other thing. this sect of buddism does not require you to become totally blind or give up your political beliefs or surrender your common sense. so i figure miles and t-bone can join with no problem at all. .

From : stephen harding

tbone wrote and in the past i did bring much of it on myself. but that was the past... whoa!!! a conversion smh .

From : stephen harding

tbone wrote on it you hide behind a load of crap you call gods will. i know that the truth is that you are just a bitter old man that didnt do as well as you wanted to in life which is obvious by your blaming the liberals for everything bad that has happened to you and the rest of the world and feel the need to strike out. ysing the lord as a shield to act this way is a sad thing. i see a lot of blaming of conservatives on anything bad thats happened since 2001. political blame game is rife in this country right now and both liberal and conservative play the game with gusto. conservatives tend to use god/morality in the promotion of their points of view. liberals have sort of cut god out of the equation so theyre stuck with social good or educated/uneducated arguments to promote their beliefs. all personal beliefs nonetheless. smh .

From : roy

learn to read jackass i corrected my statement. but honestly what difference does it make if it was a few months ago or yesterday. the fact is you were still doing it! yep and will continue to do so. and appaerently im not to be forgiven an error like you have been. i dont have to ask myself shit about anything. my image is just fine and i can live with myself shame you cant see that or live with yourself poor poor pathetic in need of help man. i sleep just fine blood pressures blood sugars fine doctor says he only needs to see me 3-4 times a year. i am giving you back exactly what you have been doing to everyone else. lets call it buddism! more to the point you are done with me remember yeah i am but obviously your image suffers the maladies of holding grudges and pure malice so you are not done with me are you let give you this to think on if im going to be of a certain set of beliefs in one group then if ive truly taken that set of beliefs for myself i would be the same in any group i attend correct youve just proved that my commitment is genuine. thank you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

how does it see a doctor by itself that is for roy to figure out its his religion -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : azwiley1

on thu 11 jan 2007 135414 -0500 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote actually the pinhead does have a point. you are introducing a sexually based conversation into a ng that children may be reading and in all honesty it is in poor taste. ya can agree with him if you want but he will still hate you. cause he hates himself. i am agreeing with him because i really would not like to see you get burned trying to make a valid point. as for him hating me big deal. he formed that attitude years ago when i said he was wrong about something god forbid. i was this attitude in him years ago and wrote him off then myself. i am using the word not describing it. also if i believe in it its gotta be okay. it seems to work for others as a excuse for assholeish actions. but if folks are offended im sure i can come up with somthing else. maybe ill join larrys religion. beer! like i said you are making a valid point but the word that you are using is probably offensive to some and just about everyone knows what it is in reference to geez tom get the fuck off of it. who do you think you are. somebody that doesnt want to see roy get burned over something as silly as this. what about you okay okay ill convert to a new one. i sorta like buddism. gotta think on it for a bit. how do you know what does it mean to you. dont you think that you should get back under that bed with your m-16 and wait for the invasion hey whats wrong with having a ar a very nice weapon with a scope and bi-pod. i really enjoy mine. guy i didnt know you also had one thought it was myself and denny. larry is on the right track with his beer religion as even if it is offensive to some in the religious sector it is a beverage and nothing more. difficult to form a complaint that an isp could do much about there and yet still brings the point home about how silly budd is being. or perhaps denny will turn loose the machine and we can pay homage to it. i doubt that denny has anywhere near enough firepower to get that machine away from red. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : azwiley1

please dude you need to read a little slower. he has a better chance of being god than converting me to anything. my point is that budd has basically become a troll and trolls need attention positive or negative makes no difference. as long as you discuss or argue with him he will keep coming back no matter how many times he says hes done with you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i was just refering back the statement he made to me when he told me to shut up twice. he stated he was done with me. come on tom dont tell me that the messenger has converted you! bfg tbone wrote how can he be done with you when you are giving him exactly what he wants and needs attention. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving learn to read jackass i corrected my statement. but honestly what difference does it make if it was a few months ago or yesterday. the fact is you were still doing it! i dont have to ask myself shit about anything. my image is just fine and i can live with myself shame you cant see that or live with yourself poor poor pathetic in need of help man. i am giving you back exactly what you have been doing to everyone else. lets call it buddism! more to the point you are done with me remember budd cochran wrote ya didnt bother to check the dates did ya how long ago were they cardiology group was due only to unnoticed crossposts btw. diabetes group wasnt the support group i thought it would be for my diabetes its just a bunch of whiners. and ask yourself what this kind of pettiness childishness more correctly is doing for your image. budd the same budd. well let me restate that he was doing in in those groups so maybe we are special after all. roy wrote well guys i guess we are not special after all. good ol self proclaimed messenger of god is doing the same self righteous i am correct you are all bigots and heathens cram it down your throat like it or not preaching in the following groups and from the looks of it he is alienating everyone there too. sci.med.cardiology alt.support.diabetes here i was hoping that we were his special flock! what name is he using i didnt see it. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : bob m

budd cochran wrote there is a big difference between giving up your beliefs and using then to act like an ass. all that anyone wants you to do is be more like you were with respect to others. the funny thing is that you really have not changed all that much. the only real difference is that now you treat everyone the same way and use religion as an excuse for doing it. there is a lot of truth to that. .

From : azwiley1

well guys i guess we are not special after all. good ol self proclaimed messenger of god is doing the same self righteous i am correct you are all bigots and heathens cram it down your throat like it or not preaching in the following groups and from the looks of it he is alienating everyone there too. sci.med.cardiology alt.support.diabetes here i was hoping that we were his special flock! what name is he using i didnt see it. .

From : tbone

beekeep wrote on wed 10 jan 2007 130429 -0600 bob m ram1220@vzavenue.net wrote no one is asking you to deny what you believe. we are asking you to shut up about it. we do not want to hear it. and just because we are asking no begging you to keep your religion to yourself does not mean we hate god. you reaaly arent this stupid are you bob you have doubt beekeep no. not anymore. bob .

From : tbone

the...@whatever.net wrote on thu 11 jan 2007 121205 -0500 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote actually the pinhead does have a point. you are introducing a sexually based conversation into a ng that children may be reading and in all honesty it is in poor taste. poor taste tell them not to read it then. poor taste. who the fuck is in charge of that call man if pussy has poor taste we might need to stop tasting it until it is cleaned or sees a doctor! how does it see a doctor by itself -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

i need a picture of this engine can any one help me find one thanks. .

From : Annonymous

why is my lights keep blinking on my heater and ac panel. help! .

From : tbone

tbone wrote not exactly a valid sample of the american population. either is the so called mainstream america which is only liberals. it gets that name for a reason miles. it is sad that your extreme right wing bias forces you to see anything short of extreme right wing as a bleeding heart liberal. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

damn i thought you were budd for a second. i should have known that he would not be man enough to admit to it. as for roys keyboard it is probably a 5 pin din ;- -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote oh give me a break budd you harbor a huge resentment against me and denying it just increases the extent of the untruth. tom if it will make you feel any better i harbor resentment toward you and admit it. vbg -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving the only problem ken is that i wasnt harboring any grudges against anyone in this group and still dont but many chose to take offense that i made a decision to try to live closer to my god and what he wants me to be. so who is it really that needs to let bygones be bygones budd budd cochran wrote since you disagree http//www.fox.com/story/0293324211700.html enjoy! budd and a related story for budd http//www.fox.com/story/0293324129800.html ;^ -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

roy wrote oh great and might pussy! my freedoms have been struck down by a non-believer! i have been told twice by a non-believer to shut up and feel that legal retribution maybe in order. but who should i report it too aclu naacp congress american justice league are you sure he is a non believer every man believes in pussy. the pussy discrimination league may be able to assist you. the pdl is a very powerful group. the usual punishment if found to be serious is yup you guessed it ya dont get any pussy not even a peek at one. the length of punishment usual depends on the guilty party reforming their ways. lol .

From : budd cochran

roy wrote roy wrote the time has come to start a new cultreligion or whatever im so sick tire of reading about budd and his new religion i figure ill start my own. join if you want. now what to use as a symbol of this thing. here ya go! pussy men have been led around forever wanting it. men have killed over it. men have paid fortunes to get it. lost everything trying to keep it. hell not to discriminate a lot of woman chase it too. so every where i see a religious post perhaps ill post about pussy gbmfg i almost forgot. in with observing the principles of said new religion should we hold a vigil or something as linda lovelace passed on monday. must have been somebody she ate. lol!! actually according to the she was in an extremely bad car accident where she was thrown like 38 feet. some kind of mechanical failure was eluded to and an investigation is under way. that is too bad. .

From : roy

on thu 11 jan 2007 121205 -0500 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote actually the pinhead does have a point. you are introducing a sexually based conversation into a ng that children may be reading and in all honesty it is in poor taste. poor taste tell them not to read it then. poor taste. who the fuck is in charge of that call .

From : tbone

and in the past i did bring much of it on myself. but that was the past... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving not been hiding anywhere man just that everyone does this to you so i never thought anything about it. lol tbone wrote where have you been hiding dude he has been doing this to me for years. the only real difference is now he no longer lets friendship stop him from doing it to anyone. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving budd cochran wrote ah . . .so you think you are gods messenger what the hell are you reading. please point out where in his reply to you he said indicated eluded to professed to be like you do constantl insinuated stated shall i keep going that he is god messenger rotflmbo!!!!! what youre saying is not consistent with the word of god. jesus said to go forth evangelize teach preach and defend the faith you are saying the exact opposite. hmm . . .i think ill take gods word over yours. budd budd cochran wrote if the word of god upsets you then it means you are the one with the problem with god. im just the messenger. the word of god does not upset me budd. your word does. you are not god nor his messenger. you are a pupil of his not a teacher. furthermore nobody here asked you to teach them or messenger to them. i am not the one with the problem but. you are because you have complete lack of respect for all others. your actions are not the word of god at all. god never said go forth and piss as many people off as you can in an absurd method of spreading the word of god. your attempts at being messenger are failing miserably. if that is your goal you might think about some other method of spreading the word of god. maybe find one thats more effective. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

not been hiding anywhere man just that everyone does this to you so i never thought anything about it. lol tbone wrote where have you been hiding dude he has been doing this to me for years. the only real difference is now he no longer lets friendship stop him from doing it to anyone. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving budd cochran wrote ah . . .so you think you are gods messenger what the hell are you reading. please point out where in his reply to you he said indicated eluded to professed to be like you do constantl insinuated stated shall i keep going that he is god messenger rotflmbo!!!!! what youre saying is not consistent with the word of god. jesus said to go forth evangelize teach preach and defend the faith you are saying the exact opposite. hmm . . .i think ill take gods word over yours. budd budd cochran wrote if the word of god upsets you then it means you are the one with the problem with god. im just the messenger. the word of god does not upset me budd. your word does. you are not god nor his messenger. you are a pupil of his not a teacher. furthermore nobody here asked you to teach them or messenger to them. i am not the one with the problem but. you are because you have complete lack of respect for all others. your actions are not the word of god at all. god never said go forth and piss as many people off as you can in an absurd method of spreading the word of god. your attempts at being messenger are failing miserably. if that is your goal you might think about some other method of spreading the word of god. maybe find one thats more effective. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

where have you been hiding dude he has been doing this to me for years. the only real difference is now he no longer lets friendship stop him from doing it to anyone. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving budd cochran wrote ah . . .so you think you are gods messenger what the hell are you reading. please point out where in his reply to you he said indicated eluded to professed to be like you do constantl insinuated stated shall i keep going that he is god messenger rotflmbo!!!!! what youre saying is not consistent with the word of god. jesus said to go forth evangelize teach preach and defend the faith you are saying the exact opposite. hmm . . .i think ill take gods word over yours. budd budd cochran wrote if the word of god upsets you then it means you are the one with the problem with god. im just the messenger. the word of god does not upset me budd. your word does. you are not god nor his messenger. you are a pupil of his not a teacher. furthermore nobody here asked you to teach them or messenger to them. i am not the one with the problem but. you are because you have complete lack of respect for all others. your actions are not the word of god at all. god never said go forth and piss as many people off as you can in an absurd method of spreading the word of god. your attempts at being messenger are failing miserably. if that is your goal you might think about some other method of spreading the word of god. maybe find one thats more effective. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

the bible. i listed the passages not long ago. were you not paying attention again the beauty of the constitution is there is no license needed to preach only to perform marriages. so you admit that you were preaching. it is about time. nope its a statement of fact . . .something you tend to ignore as much as you can. as you ignore everybody asking you to knock of the crap. also you ignored my questions. i guess you dont want to team preach then. thats okay i doubt that you know a thing about pussy but get ready cause you will be hearing a lot about it. maybe some pics to refresh your memory whatever it takes as long as it takes. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

the...@whatever.net wrote on thu 11 jan 2007 121205 -0500 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote actually the pinhead does have a point. you are introducing a sexually based conversation into a ng that children may be reading and in all honesty it is in poor taste. poor taste tell them not to read it then. poor taste. who the fuck is in charge of that call man if pussy has poor taste we might need to stop tasting it until it is cleaned or sees a doctor! .

From : Annonymous

ya didnt bother to check the dates did ya how long ago were they cardiology group was due only to unnoticed crossposts btw. diabetes group wasnt the support group i thought it would be for my diabetes its just a bunch of whiners. and ask yourself what this kind of pettiness childishness more correctly is doing for your image. budd the same budd. well let me restate that he was doing in in those groups so maybe we are special after all. roy wrote well guys i guess we are not special after all. good ol self proclaimed messenger of god is doing the same self righteous i am correct you are all bigots and heathens cram it down your throat like it or not preaching in the following groups and from the looks of it he is alienating everyone there too. sci.med.cardiology alt.support.diabetes here i was hoping that we were his special flock! what name is he using i didnt see it. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

on thu 11 jan 2007 115212 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote ya didnt bother to check the dates did ya how long ago were they his point remains same type of posts from you. not sure the date matters that much. cardiology group was due only to unnoticed crossposts btw. yeah it was just an accident. diabetes group wasnt the support group i thought it would be for my diabetes its just a bunch of whiners. whoa so you say diabetics are just a bunch of whiners hmmm. and ask yourself what this kind of pettiness childishness more correctly is doing for your image. yeah if he keeps it up for a few years and is able to become even more petty and childish............well actually a whole lot more petty and childish.........he might get close to what you have done for yours. budd the same budd. well let me restate that he was doing in in those groups so maybe we are special after all. roy wrote well guys i guess we are not special after all. good ol self proclaimed messenger of god is doing the same self righteous i am correct you are all bigots and heathens cram it down your throat like it or not preaching in the following groups and from the looks of it he is alienating everyone there too. sci.med.cardiology alt.support.diabetes here i was hoping that we were his special flock! what name is he using i didnt see it. .

From : tbone

it must be sad to live your entire life in denial of the truth. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i have. i told you that you cant go to heaven without being a christian according to the bibles teachings not mans or any denominations teachings. as for friendship you burnt that bridge when you rejected my new commitment to my faiths and all that required. you rejected me not i you. it was your choice to do so. i accept that decision by you. budd budd cochran wrote if you knew what true friendship was it wouldnt have made this difference between us a true friend would have supported me trying to better myself like i tried to support you not long ago during a bad time you were going thru when you seem to think no one cared. but it did make a difference to you. youve stated that unless we agree to your religious crap then we cant be friends and im going to hell. its not us budd...its all 100% you. deal with it. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

well guys i guess we are not special after all. good ol self proclaimed messenger of god is doing the same self righteous i am correct you are all bigots and heathens cram it down your throat like it or not preaching in the following groups and from the looks of it he is alienating everyone there too. sci.med.cardiology alt.support.diabetes here i was hoping that we were his special flock! .

From : budd cochran

azwiley1 wrote i know to follow suit the religion of pussy i will start my own. i think that mine and pussy will go well together i will call it beer! here is a symbol for my beer religion. http//my.break.com/media/view.aspxcontentid=197638 .

From : Annonymous

roy here is a symbol for your pussy religion. http//www.break.com/pictures/jan4gal3141.html .

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote and so what a few months ago i decided to quit playing a being a christian shall we say and devote my life completely to god. thats the difference that you cant accept. god never told you to shove your friends away simply because they dont put up with your crap. nor did he tell my friends to reject me for my commitment to him. and that isnt what is happening. what is happening is that you are using your new calimed religous belief to act like a complete asshole. you seem to think that you can say and do whatever you want and if anyone calls you on it you hide behind a load of crap you call gods will. i know that the truth is that you are just a bitter old man that didnt do as well as you wanted to in life which is obvious by your blaming the liberals for everything bad that has happened to you and the rest of the world and feel the need to strike out. ysing the lord as a shield to act this way is a sad thing. nobody here has told you to change your religious views. no youre right none here did but god did through conviction of my soul. i doubt it. its more like an easy excuse to be an ass. theyve only asked you to respect theirs if you want them to respect yours. thats the rub no one is respecting my beliefs and all want me to revert back to the way i was. nope aint gonna happen. there is a big difference between giving up your beliefs and using then to act like an ass. all that anyone wants you to do is be more like you were with respect to others. the funny thing is that you really have not changed all that much. the only real difference is that now you treat everyone the same way and use religion as an excuse for doing it. thats a concept that you have said you do not give a damn about because it doesnt fit your religion. no youre either wrong or you misunderstood me but then thats what it has been from the start. the the entire group has misunderstood you. get it yet what a warped messed up religion you have if thats the case. how would you know the disciples were all martyred for their faith why should i beany less zealous nice spin budd but far from the truth. if the disciples acted the way you currently are this would be a forgotten religion as noboby would want to be bothered with it or the people acting the way you currenty are. if christianity were outlawed tomorrow as some of you hope for i want to be on the number one most wanted poster. more complete crap. youve totally hijacked christianity to a rather radical extreme. no christianity as compared to what it was in the time of christ is a watered down corrupted shadow of its former self. most denominations teach works to earn salvation instead of grace most hide the light of the world the christ under a bushel most teach that a good christian hides in a corner and never says anything to disturb the masses. really which ones it sounds to me more like you can attract more with honey than with vinegar and that is what you are using. if the only way to heaven is thru christ then people like you who turn people away are truly doing the devils work. next thing youll be doing is forcing flowers to people in airports. that would be the hari-krishnas who are doing that in order to earn their place in their idea of heaven. which is far more than you are accomplishing. im done with this stuff from you. if you cant accept me then its your loss. i dont give a darn if you all k.f. me. if that is the truth then why dont you just go away as it should be clear even to one as idiotic as you that you are not welcome here if you wish to continue acting like an ass and then going so far as to use god as an excuse for doing it. shame on you budd!!! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : azwiley1

is it really gods word or just your distorted view of it hmm..... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ah . . .so you think you are gods messenger rotflmbo!!!!! what youre saying is not consistent with the word of god. jesus said to go forth evangelize teach preach and defend the faith you are saying the exact opposite. hmm . . .i think ill take gods word over yours. budd budd cochran wrote if the word of god upsets you then it means you are the one with the problem with god. im just the messenger. the word of god does not upset me budd. your word does. you are not god nor his messenger. you are a pupil of his not a teacher. furthermore nobody here asked you to teach them or messenger to them. i am not the one with the problem but. you are because you have complete lack of respect for all others. your actions are not the word of god at all. god never said go forth and piss as many people off as you can in an absurd method of spreading the word of god. your attempts at being messenger are failing miserably. if that is your goal you might think about some other method of spreading the word of god. maybe find one thats more effective. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

budd i called the naacp and they said you are in violation of the constitution specifically freedom of speach for telling me to shut up they strongly recommend that you refrain from doing so in the future! azwiley1 wrote i am calling the police the congress the aclu and the pope too. budd told me to shut up not once but twice. he is taking away my freedom of speech! budd cochran wrote no budd you did. you are the one that has allowed religious differences come between and ruin the friendship of everyone in here that you had. you did this because no matter how many times no matter how nice no matter how nastily you were asked you refused to stop forcing what you deemed to be the truth to be correct to be proper on people who did not want it. in your incorrect opinion... you failed to see and understand that those these are your beliefs and you are justified in feeling the way you do about them them they are not those of everyone else and you do not have the right to make everyone convert to your way of life. in your incorrect opinion.... that my friend is exactly what you have been trying to do. with you it was either follow religion as i do or you are a bigot a hethen etc and because of that we are no longer friends. you budd did this to you no other way about it. shut up. if were no longer friends then shut up. if you knew what true friendship was it wouldnt have made this difference between us a true friend would have supported me trying to better myself like i tried to support you not long ago during a bad time you were going thru when you seem to think no one cared. no larry whats really the problem is i made a mistake by accidentally posting what was intended to be a private reply to a question you asked me and even when i apologized for it you had not the maturity to accept the apology and go on from there. so now what im done with you. i have nothing more to say to you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

the bible. i listed the passages not long ago. were you not paying attention again the beauty of the constitution is there is no license needed to preach only to perform marriages. so you admit that you were preaching. it is about time. nope its a statement of fact . . .something you tend to ignore as much as you can. as you ignore everybody asking you to knock of the crap. funny how none of you can seem to find anything ive posted without religion in it. there is none so blind as those that will not see. also you ignored my questions. nope i gave it more interest than it deserved actually. i read it...then laughed at your stupidity. i guess you dont want to team preach then. thats okay i doubt that you know a thing about pussy but get ready cause you will be hearing a lot about it. maybe some pics to refresh your memory whatever it takes as long as it takes. do whatever you think you should gods watching and taking notes and im not a moderator... but it might get complaints sent to your isp. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

on thu 11 jan 2007 062612 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote beekeep wrote on tue 9 jan 2007 104730 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. i believe that you drove that nail home with one wack! most people i know who voted for bush did not do so because of his bible thumping. they also dont see the democrats as having the answers to any issues. politicians in general are a mess. that really pretty well sums it up. .

From : budd cochran

i have. i told you that you cant go to heaven without being a christian according to the bibles teachings not mans or any denominations teachings. as for friendship you burnt that bridge when you rejected my new commitment to my faiths and all that required. you rejected me not i you. it was your choice to do so. i accept that decision by you. budd budd cochran wrote if you knew what true friendship was it wouldnt have made this difference between us a true friend would have supported me trying to better myself like i tried to support you not long ago during a bad time you were going thru when you seem to think no one cared. but it did make a difference to you. youve stated that unless we agree to your religious crap then we cant be friends and im going to hell. its not us budd...its all 100% you. deal with it. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

ah . . .so you think you are gods messenger rotflmbo!!!!! what youre saying is not consistent with the word of god. jesus said to go forth evangelize teach preach and defend the faith you are saying the exact opposite. hmm . . .i think ill take gods word over yours. budd budd cochran wrote if the word of god upsets you then it means you are the one with the problem with god. im just the messenger. the word of god does not upset me budd. your word does. you are not god nor his messenger. you are a pupil of his not a teacher. furthermore nobody here asked you to teach them or messenger to them. i am not the one with the problem but. you are because you have complete lack of respect for all others. your actions are not the word of god at all. god never said go forth and piss as many people off as you can in an absurd method of spreading the word of god. your attempts at being messenger are failing miserably. if that is your goal you might think about some other method of spreading the word of god. maybe find one thats more effective. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

roy wrote maybe we can preach together ill preach about pussy and you well.. you just keep right on pissin people off. how many people here has budds methods been successful in converting them to his religion strange methods so many religious fanatics use. no sadly he has driven everybody away from him. as we all have noticed it has been a fairly rapid progression to what we have now. thats why i thought at first it was a med problem as the onset was so sudden. the total unreasonable behavior combativeness and the im right your wrong victim deal led me to the dry drunk. one other thing led me to the dry drunk he obviously functions but his refusal to show his posts to family or church leads me to think that he knows he is wrong and is hiding it. hell maybe he fell off the wagon. youd think that after years of complete failure with the shove it down throats method theyd come up with a new plan. thats just it there is no plan. miles i gotta say this not to piss you off but most all of these religious nut jobs vote repub and it sure showed last presidential election.bfg im sorry miles your a good guy but i couldnt let the above go by. please take it in the spirit intended. roy .

From : roy

i know to follow suit the religion of pussy i will start my own. i think that mine and pussy will go well together i will call it beer! .

From : tbone

budd cochran wrote and so what a few months ago i decided to quit playing a being a christian shall we say and devote my life completely to god. thats the difference that you cant accept. god never told you to shove your friends away simply because they dont put up with your crap. nor did he tell my friends to reject me for my commitment to him. nobody here has told you to change your religious views. no youre right none here did but god did through conviction of my soul. theyve only asked you to respect theirs if you want them to respect yours. thats the rub no one is respecting my beliefs and all want me to revert back to the way i was. nope aint gonna happen. thats a concept that you have said you do not give a damn about because it doesnt fit your religion. no youre either wrong or you misunderstood me but then thats what it has been from the start. what a warped messed up religion you have if thats the case. how would you know the disciples were all martyred for their faith why should i beany less zealous if christianity were outlawed tomorrow as some of you hope for i want to be on the number one most wanted poster. youve totally hijacked christianity to a rather radical extreme. no christianity as compared to what it was in the time of christ is a watered down corrupted shadow of its former self. most denominations teach works to earn salvation instead of grace most hide the light of the world the christ under a bushel most teach that a good christian hides in a corner and never says anything to disturb the masses. next thing youll be doing is forcing flowers to people in airports. that would be the hari-krishnas who are doing that in order to earn their place in their idea of heaven. im done with this stuff from you. if you cant accept me then its your loss. i dont give a darn if you all k.f. me. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

the funny thing is that it is not always complete failure. it is really what you are looking for. that method is effective at getting small numbers of extremely dedicated followers and if that is what you are after.... the sad thing is that budd doesnt care about that either. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving roy wrote maybe we can preach together ill preach about pussy and you well.. you just keep right on pissin people off. how many people here has budds methods been successful in converting them to his religion strange methods so many religious fanatics use. youd think that after years of complete failure with the shove it down throats method theyd come up with a new plan. .

From : roy

beekeep wrote on tue 9 jan 2007 104730 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. i believe that you drove that nail home with one wack! most people i know who voted for bush did not do so because of his bible thumping. they also dont see the democrats as having the answers to any issues. politicians in general are a mess. of course you will say that miles especially since your party as pretty much screwed the pooch and most americans for the past 6 to 7 years. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

on tue 9 jan 2007 104730 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. i believe that you drove that nail home with one wack! beekeep .

From : miles

on wed 10 jan 2007 130429 -0600 bob m ram1220@vzavenue.net wrote no one is asking you to deny what you believe. we are asking you to shut up about it. we do not want to hear it. and just because we are asking no begging you to keep your religion to yourself does not mean we hate god. you reaaly arent this stupid are you bob you have doubt beekeep .

From : beekeepbeekeep

beekeep wrote on tue 9 jan 2007 104730 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. i believe that you drove that nail home with one wack! most people i know who voted for bush did not do so because of his bible thumping. they also dont see the democrats as having the answers to any issues. politicians in general are a mess. .

From : miles

roy wrote maybe we can preach together ill preach about pussy and you well.. you just keep right on pissin people off. how many people here has budds methods been successful in converting them to his religion strange methods so many religious fanatics use. youd think that after years of complete failure with the shove it down throats method theyd come up with a new plan. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote if you knew what true friendship was it wouldnt have made this difference between us a true friend would have supported me trying to better myself like i tried to support you not long ago during a bad time you were going thru when you seem to think no one cared. but it did make a difference to you. youve stated that unless we agree to your religious crap then we cant be friends and im going to hell. its not us budd...its all 100% you. deal with it. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote and so what a few months ago i decided to quit playing a being a christian shall we say and devote my life completely to god. thats the difference that you cant accept. god never told you to shove your friends away simply because they dont put up with your crap. nobody here has told you to change your religious views. theyve only asked you to respect theirs if you want them to respect yours. thats a concept that you have said you do not give a damn about because it doesnt fit your religion. what a warped messed up religion you have if thats the case. youve totally hijacked christianity to a rather radical extreme. next thing youll be doing is forcing flowers to people in airports. .

From : roy

on wed 10 jan 2007 103009 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote the bible. i listed the passages not long ago. were you not paying attention again the beauty of the constitution is there is no license needed to preach only to perform marriages. budd fair enough. then my license to diagnose comes from tv. ive seen a few tv shows abut it. the constitution allws me to do that too. btw roy has asked you about pussy a few times now and you dont answer. what do you think on wed 10 jan 2007 060448 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and your license to diagnose please budd and yours to preach please on tue 9 jan 2007 165539 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and you say im the one with problems . . . . yep you are the sicko if you get your kicks from hurting others for their beliefs. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 120831 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. oh well youll not comprehend this any manner except how it best suits your purpose anyway. budd actually like most of us he wont give a flying fuck about it budd. so how long have you had trouble with reading and comprehension not to mention the cognizance of elapsed time periods i said that my wife helped me find my savior nearly thirty years ago john and that recently i decided to turn all my life over to him instead of holding back like so many do. do try to remember it this time. i remember it well. youre telling a different story now the original post stated that your bride insisted that you abandon your agnostic beliefs and take up religion as a condition of matrimony. .

From : azwiley1

hello i am having the following problem with my 1998 dodge ram 1500 slt extended cab 2wd. after driving for about 30 minutes the seat belts lock up and i can longer pull them from the retractor in the seat. this happens each time i drive although they seem to release once i open the door but then 30 min later they lock up again. any ideas on what is causing this and how i can repair it thanks .

From : roy

iirc there was some issue with the 5 speed. perhaps tom l. has the info. youre probably thinking of the 5th gear nut problem... where the nut holding the gear to the shaft would back off during heavy lugging of the engine causing the transmission to lose overdrive. .

From : roy

oh great and might pussy! my freedoms have been struck down by a non-believer! i have been told twice by a non-believer to shut up and feel that legal retribution maybe in order. but who should i report it too aclu naacp congress american justice league .

From : azwiley1

tbone wrote oh give me a break budd you harbor a huge resentment against me and denying it just increases the extent of the untruth. tom if it will make you feel any better i harbor resentment toward you and admit it. vbg ya owe me a damn keyboard. that was funny! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving the only problem ken is that i wasnt harboring any grudges against anyone in this group and still dont but many chose to take offense that i made a decision to try to live closer to my god and what he wants me to be. so who is it really that needs to let bygones be bygones budd budd cochran wrote since you disagree http//www.fox.com/story/0293324211700.html enjoy! budd and a related story for budd http//www.fox.com/story/0293324129800.html ;^ -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

oh great and might pussy! my freedoms have been struck down by a non-believer! i have been told twice by a non-believer to shut up and feel that legal retribution maybe in order. but who should i report it too aclu naacp congress american justice league are you sure he is a non believer every man believes in pussy. the pussy discrimination league may be able to assist you. the pdl is a very powerful group. the usual punishment if found to be serious is yup you guessed it ya dont get any pussy not even a peek at one. the length of punishment usual depends on the guilty party reforming their ways. .

From : john kunkel

budd cochran wrote basically im saying that if god says it so will i. you dont like it killfile me. where has god any god for that matter ever told anyone that it is acceptable by him to be a hypocritical ass and cram dont the throats of others ones personal moral views and beliefs budd budd cochran wrote so tell me something when will that apply to me as soon as you decide to stop ridiculing others for their views or telling them theyre going to hell. basically what im saying budd is if you do not like it then dont dish it out. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : bob m

on 2007-01-09 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote i would guess a worn multi-function switch thats the switch in the steering column that handles the turn signals high beams wipers etc. i agree if it only happens on switch activation its likely a balky switch rather than a heat load tripping. thats pretty much what i thought the heat suggestion threw me - time to go get a haynes manual. thanks guys. .

From : roy

roy wrote beekeep wrote on wed 10 jan 2007 092116 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote the time has come to start a new cultreligion or whatever im so sick tire of reading about budd and his new religion i figure ill start my own. join if you want. now what to use as a symbol of this thing. here ya go! pussy men have been led around forever wanting it. men have killed over it. men have paid fortunes to get it. lost everything trying to keep it. hell not to discriminate a lot of woman chase it too. so every where i see a religious post perhaps ill post about pussy gbmfg well you cant go selling your religion in my state. its illegal to peddle pussey in maryland. beekeep hey we are not pussy peddlers man that would make us pimps! what does that make budd a pimp no i dont think that it could make him a pimp even a pimp knows when to back off after being told repeatedly that we dont want any. .

From : azwiley1

i am calling the police the congress the aclu and the pope too. budd told me to shut up not once but twice. he is taking away my freedom of speech! talk to him about pussy. maybe youll convert him budd cochran wrote no budd you did. you are the one that has allowed religious differences come between and ruin the friendship of everyone in here that you had. you did this because no matter how many times no matter how nice no matter how nastily you were asked you refused to stop forcing what you deemed to be the truth to be correct to be proper on people who did not want it. in your incorrect opinion... you failed to see and understand that those these are your beliefs and you are justified in feeling the way you do about them them they are not those of everyone else and you do not have the right to make everyone convert to your way of life. in your incorrect opinion.... that my friend is exactly what you have been trying to do. with you it was either follow religion as i do or you are a bigot a hethen etc and because of that we are no longer friends. you budd did this to you no other way about it. shut up. if were no longer friends then shut up. if you knew what true friendship was it wouldnt have made this difference between us a true friend would have supported me trying to better myself like i tried to support you not long ago during a bad time you were going thru when you seem to think no one cared. no larry whats really the problem is i made a mistake by accidentally posting what was intended to be a private reply to a question you asked me and even when i apologized for it you had not the maturity to accept the apology and go on from there. so now what im done with you. i have nothing more to say to you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

no larry whats really the problem is i made a mistake by accidentally posting what was intended to be a private reply to a question you asked me and even when i apologized for it you had not the maturity to accept the apology and go on from there. budd pull your head out of your ass!!!! this has nothing absofuckinglutely nothing to do with an errant post from months ago. you appologized i did accpet it and can prove it if it would matter. you have no idea what a friend is anymore. you have no idea how to be one anymore. hell i doubt you have any anymore. again this has to do simply with the fact that you do fucking not respect the plain and simple fact that we in the group wish to hell that you would get off your religious high horse and stop the damned preaching. budd call it what you want but you are hiding behind your new found newly professed religious virtues and for some reason you feel that it has made you better then everyone else. whatever live your pathetic life behind a book. so now what im done with you. i have nothing more to say to you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

no they liked you better when it appeared that you knew what being a friend was. something that you seem to have forgotten now that you are hiding behind this religion crap. look whos talking about friendship a person that doesnt even know what an apology is. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote then you want me to deny what i believe become the old budd. not gonna happen. it would help if you would look past your own hatred of god and see things for yourself. no one is asking you to deny what you believe. we are asking you to shut up about it. we do not want to hear it. and just because we are asking no begging you to keep your religion to yourself does not mean we hate god. you reaaly arent this stupid are you i understand far more than you think. i understand you cant accept me as i am you wish id go back to my sinful ways. i understand you blame the most moral book ever written for this change and hate god for it. i understand what your anger and hate are doing to you. budd oh you have really lost it. bob .

From : budd cochran

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From : budd cochranbudd cochran

the bible. i listed the passages not long ago. were you not paying attention again the beauty of the constitution is there is no license needed to preach only to perform marriages. budd on wed 10 jan 2007 060448 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and your license to diagnose please budd and yours to preach please on tue 9 jan 2007 165539 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and you say im the one with problems . . . . yep you are the sicko if you get your kicks from hurting others for their beliefs. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 120831 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. oh well youll not comprehend this any manner except how it best suitsyour purpose anyway. budd actually like most of us he wont give a flying fuck about it budd. so how long have you had trouble with reading and comprehension not to mention the cognizance of elapsed time periods i said that my wife helped me find my savior nearly thirty years ago john and that recently i decided to turn all my life over to him instead of holding back like so many do. do try to remember it this time. i remember it well. youre telling a different story now the original post stated that your bride insisted that you abandon your agnostic beliefs and take up religion as a condition of matrimony. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

i did and your bigotry cup is overflowing. but shows the true nature of you and your cohorts. budd and your point was noted and considered to be inapplicable to me. thats fine - but i wasnt discussing you. and what is being done in this group in these threads is no different in that christians are being told they cannot live and post according to their beliefs in this group without being harrassed for it according to the aclj. unbelievable!! okay im start a new thread on my new religion. check it out -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : stephen harding

nope. thats just what i was talking about. you all liked me better before i got religion as you put it. you couldnt be more wrong!!!! your not a strupid person so why dont knock off this crap. what thats not what youve been implying roy. make up your mind. nobdy cares about the relgion you got!! including it every post people object to. according to you ya were born a second time years ago fine im happy for you. you didnt start this until a few months ago although it seems like forever. and so what a few months ago i decided to quit playing a being a christian shall we say and devote my life completely to god. thats the difference that you cant accept. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

no budd you did. you are the one that has allowed religious differences come between and ruin the friendship of everyone in here that you had. you did this because no matter how many times no matter how nice no matter how nastily you were asked you refused to stop forcing what you deemed to be the truth to be correct to be proper on people who did not want it. in your incorrect opinion... you failed to see and understand that those these are your beliefs and you are justified in feeling the way you do about them them they are not those of everyone else and you do not have the right to make everyone convert to your way of life. in your incorrect opinion.... that my friend is exactly what you have been trying to do. with you it was either follow religion as i do or you are a bigot a hethen etc and because of that we are no longer friends. you budd did this to you no other way about it. shut up. if were no longer friends then shut up. if you knew what true friendship was it wouldnt have made this difference between us a true friend would have supported me trying to better myself like i tried to support you not long ago during a bad time you were going thru when you seem to think no one cared. no larry whats really the problem is i made a mistake by accidentally posting what was intended to be a private reply to a question you asked me and even when i apologized for it you had not the maturity to accept the apology and go on from there. so now what im done with you. i have nothing more to say to you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

no i have not. i dont recall the last time i got a humor email from him either. just recieved a note from red. he heard from him off and on but nothing since mid dec. hmmmmmm..... the mystery of who has da machine might be solved. maybe just maybe he can no longer reach the off switch. fmb north mexico .

From : tbone

works for me. here we go the articles of faith. in the spring of 1842 the prophet joseph smith sent a letter to john wentworth who was editor of a paper called the chicago democrat. this letter contained an account of many of the events of early church history. the document also contained thirteen statements outlining latter-day saint beliefs. these have come to be known as the articles of faith which are given below. the articles of faith are official doctrine of the church and have been canonized as a part of latter-day scripture. they are clear statements of belief that help members understand the basic beliefs of the church and explain these beliefs to others. they are not however a complete summary of church doctrine. through living prophets the church is guided by continuous revelation and inspiration. 1. we believe in god the eternal father and in his son jesus christ and in the holy ghost. 2. we believe that men will be punished for their own sins and not for adams transgression. 3. we believe that through the atonement of christ all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel. 4. we believe that the first principles and ordinances of the gospel are first faith in the lord jesus christ; second repentance; third baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth laying on of hands for the gift of the holy ghost. 5. we believe that a man must be called of god by prophecy and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority to preach the gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof. 6. we believe in the same organization that existed in the primitive church namely apostles prophets pastors teachers evangelists and so forth. 7. we believe in the gift of tongues prophecy revelation visions healing interpretation of tongues and so forth. 8. we believe the bible to be the word of god as far as it istranslated correctly; we also believe the book of mormon to be the word of god. 9. we believe all that god has revealed all that he does now reveal and we believe that he will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the kingdom of god. 10. we believe in the literal gathering of israel and in the restoration of the ten tribes; that zion the new jerusalem will be built upon the american continent; that christ will reign personally upon the earth; and that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory. 11. we claim the privilege of worshiping almighty god according to the dictates of our own conscience and allow all men the same privilege let them worship how where or what they may. 12. we believe in being subject to kings presidents rulers and magistrates in obeying honoring and sustaining the law. 13. we believe in being honest true chaste benevolent virtuous and in doing good to all men; indeed we may say that we follow the admonition of paul--we believe all things we hope all things we have endured many things and hope to be able to endure all things. if there is anything virtuous lovely or of good report or praiseworthy we seek after these things. joseph smith. the time has come to start a new cultreligion or whatever im so sick tire of reading about budd and his new religion i figure ill start my own. join if you want. now what to use as a symbol of this thing. here ya go! pussy men have been led around forever wanting it. men have killed over it. men have paid fortunes to get it. lost everything trying to keep it. hell not to discriminate a lot of woman chase it too. so every where i see a religious post perhaps ill post about pussy gbmfg .

From : tbone

roy wrote the time has come to start a new cultreligion or whatever im so sick tire of reading about budd and his new religion i figure ill start my own. join if you want. now what to use as a symbol of this thing. here ya go! pussy men have been led around forever wanting it. men have killed over it. men have paid fortunes to get it. lost everything trying to keep it. hell not to discriminate a lot of woman chase it too. so every where i see a religious post perhaps ill post about pussy gbmfg i almost forgot. in with observing the principles of said new religion should we hold a vigil or something as linda lovelace passed on monday. must have been somebody she ate. .

From : Annonymous

the...@whatever.net wrote on 10 jan 2007 073609 -0800 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote roy wrote do we have a virgin to sacrafice budd are you trying to anger the pussy! how dare you! yeah but it might make the congregation happy. lol! roy wrote the time has come to start a new cultreligion or whatever im so sick tire of reading about budd and his new religion i figure ill start my own. join if you want. now what to use as a symbol of this thing. here ya go! pussy men have been led around forever wanting it. men have killed over it. men have paid fortunes to get it. lost everything trying to keep it. hell not to discriminate a lot of woman chase it too. so every where i see a religious post perhaps ill post about pussy gbmfg .

From : azwiley1

do we have a virgin to sacrafice budd roy wrote the time has come to start a new cultreligion or whatever im so sick tire of reading about budd and his new religion i figure ill start my own. join if you want. now what to use as a symbol of this thing. here ya go! pussy men have been led around forever wanting it. men have killed over it. men have paid fortunes to get it. lost everything trying to keep it. hell not to discriminate a lot of woman chase it too. so every where i see a religious post perhaps ill post about pussy gbmfg .

From : Annonymousroy

on tue 09 jan 2007 100014 -0500 roy wrote iirc there was some issue with the 5 speed. perhaps tom l. has the info. im a sporadic reader of the group so i dont know off-hand who tom l is but i hope he chimes in... how many miles on it 130k how about you bring it by and i drive and you can curl up under the hood g at this point i think id be willing to. gotta at least leave the hood open/off for me though... .

From : Annonymous

does the rattle you hear sound like internal engine noise just a bit louder than usual i do have taller gears ever-so-slightly taller than stock tires and what i hear may be what you are describing but to my untrained ear it sounds external to the motor and more of a tinny rattle almost like a heat shield or something hitting/vibrating. thanks. on wed 10 jan 2007 045715 +0100 steve lusardi wrote i have an 04 ctd and there is a noticable rattle when loading the engine below 1000 rpm. this is normal and obviously should be avoided. i have 4.10 axles and a 6 speed so it is easy for me to do that. i can imagine that with a 5 speed and a taller axle the rattle would be harder to avoid at start. steve .

From : nosey

and your point was noted and considered to be inapplicable to me. thats fine - but i wasnt discussing you. and what is being done in this group in these threads is no different in that christians are being told they cannot live and post according to their beliefs in this group without being harrassed for it according to the aclj. unbelievable!! okay im start a new thread on my new religion. check it out .

From : budd cochran

roy i think the observations do not support your experience. you are clearly an intelligent driver that does not abuse his machinery. in fact there probably are many automatic owners that are similar to you but your experience is not the norm. check the dodge groups and forums yoursef. id suggest that perhaps you look at the tdr look here. i dont see many complaints about the autos. one thing to keep in mind. count the number of posts about transmission problems the figure that percentage against the number made. also i dont know many people who post how wonderful any part of their car or truck is unless asked. i may not run my truck 1000000 miles but somebody will hence the high resale value. i do run my truck 300000 and i really would not like to have to repair my gearbox 3 times either. high resale value is mostly coupled to the higher purchase price. roy steve .

From : roy

on wed 10 jan 2007 060448 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and your license to diagnose please budd and yours to preach please on tue 9 jan 2007 165539 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and you say im the one with problems . . . . yep you are the sicko if you get your kicks from hurting others for their beliefs. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 120831 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. oh well youll not comprehend this any manner except how it best suits your purpose anyway. budd actually like most of us he wont give a flying fuck about it budd. so how long have you had trouble with reading and comprehension not to mention the cognizance of elapsed time periods i said that my wife helped me find my savior nearly thirty years ago john and that recently i decided to turn all my life over to him instead of holding back like so many do. do try to remember it this time. i remember it well. youre telling a different story now the original post stated that your bride insisted that you abandon your agnostic beliefs and take up religion as a condition of matrimony. .

From : budd cochran

suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 09-jan-07 314 am this is something i know nothing aboutalong with a ton of other things. anyway the charger has it. i have to get a cell phone that has it as well. thats as far as i go. what do ya have to do to operate them do they kinda initialize themselves like a key fob i have a month or two to get this understood. tia roy whats the chargers bluetooth for built-in handsfree for the cell yup. but yea follow the instructions probably for the phones bluetooth youll have to turn it on and get the two to talk to each other. once they recognize each other youre golden. i think. but something to remember about bluetooth if your phone has it on and youre carrying it around - in a crowd perhaps - itll likely connect to any other bluetooth device around. this is how cellphones get viruses. so remember to turn bluetooth off when not using it. thats real good to know. thanks roy jmc .

From : budd cochran

no victim just stating opinion. ah but unless its you or one of your cohorts then its the victim bit right budd and you say im the one with problems . . . . you are the sicko if you get your kicks from hurting others for their beliefs. the victim show up as expected. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

yep and there goes the free enterprise system down the tube and guess what socialism is waiting behind the podium. lol what a complete load of crap. how brainwashed of you. this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. do you really want to go back to the industrial revolution times where all that existed were the few very rich and the rest being very poor that is the way it is heading if left unchecked. lol you think so little of your fellow man as to think with modern education historical evidence that people will fall for the liberal claptrap now you know why the population of the us is only 20% liberals. and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. lol keep dreaming. face it budd the general population did get off its ass and made it clear that they are tired of getting screwed. no it didnt. what was the eligible percentage voting this time if less than 50% of the eligible voters then the general population did not get off its butt. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

obviously. so you choose to let religious differences come between one time friends budd larry before you go one bit farther remember this you are the one asking someone to stop what they are doing. if you want to be an atheist or whatever go right ahead its your choice but i am going to live and be the person i believe i should be... thats my choice. if that is not acceptable to you then fine accept it and go on. i would rather be a satanist if being any form of christian or catholic would mean that i would have to be/act like you! -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

the discussion a few months back and other times off and on you had with miles about limiting the income for business owners and inclusively ceos. the point is tom as miles tried to tell you this is a free enterprise free market society and it is by majority rule what about 80% in favor of no limitations. based on what some crap form fox lol i dont recall seeing any percentages in that article and who exactly did they ask it was a online poll and fox has just about equal viewship liberal and conservative. neil cavuto btw is a liberal. in this country you are in the minority in this attitude and will probably never see those limits in place. no need to discuss it as it was just for your information. minority attitude huh lol. no tom i said you were in the minority with your attitude. talk about spin .. . . you really need to pull your head out of the sand and look around a little. stock holders are starting to bash companies that overpay their ceos look at hd and many companies are looking to go private perhaps so that they can continue their corrupt methods of insane pay to the select few without fear of stockholder repercussions. sorry budd but i am in the majority here. no youre not. just thought youd find it interesting to read and it kinda proves youre wrong about how i feel towards you doesnt it how does this prove anything on one hand you could say that you took the time to find something for me which could be a positive but otoh what you found you now claim proves me wrong and in the minority which sheds a negative light on it. so tell me budd what exactly does this mean lol i post something without the r content in it and you try to spin it into an offense anyway. tsk tsk. the point is tom that i didnt put in the subject you consider to be banned in the post and claim i cant post without mentioning and i tried to give you more information on a subject that is near and dear to your heart. it was an effort on my part to show you that you are wrong about me but you know i see now that it was a waste of time. you are so full of hate you would refuse a blood transfusion from me even if it was needed to save your life. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

and your license to diagnose please budd on tue 9 jan 2007 165539 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and you say im the one with problems . . . . yep you are the sicko if you get your kicks from hurting others for their beliefs. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 120831 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. oh well youll not comprehend this any manner except how it best suits your purpose anyway. budd actually like most of us he wont give a flying fuck about it budd. so how long have you had trouble with reading and comprehension not to mention the cognizance of elapsed time periods i said that my wife helped me find my savior nearly thirty years ago john and that recently i decided to turn all my life over to him instead of holding back like so many do. do try to remember it this time. i remember it well. youre telling a different story now the original post stated that your bride insisted that you abandon your agnostic beliefs and take up religion as a condition of matrimony. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

poor mac! on tue 9 jan 2007 100054 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote anybody heard from him recently roy i think he went to budds bible camp. beekeep .

From : stephen harding

on tue 9 jan 2007 100054 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote anybody heard from him recently roy i think he went to budds bible camp. beekeep .

From : tbone

but they by and large elected democrats as conservative as the republicans they replaced! well if thats the case everybody will be happy. roy .

From : budd cochran

and your point was noted and considered to be inapplicable to me. thats fine - but i wasnt discussing you. yes you were by implication. look again at your next passage. since i am not advocating any such murderous idealism id like for you to explain your intent with the comment or is it just your pc way of saying i liked you better before you got religious nope. just a simple comment to an over-generalized statement. but think about it... in their eyes they are doing as they are commanded to by their god. you say their interpretation is wrong. however you leave no room for the possibility that your interpretation of your religious writings could be wrong. that is the whole issue is it tom what matters is how correct are those writings doesnt it 99.5% accurate when compared to the best and oldest copies of the originals with all the errors being made up of grammatical mistakes nothing changed in the meanings or intent of the scriptures. no other books of philosophy or set of holy books came make that claim. not even the quran. heck the book of mormon for example has had about 350 changes since the first printing in 1835. the king james version is unchanged from its original printing. and whether i or you believe those scriptures matters not one bit as to their accuracy or the truth contained in them. i choose to believe them with all my heart mind and soul. you not only know for sure that your interpretations are correct but that all others interpretations of their own religions is wrong. i know what the bible says one god in three persons creation not evolution man is sinful and not worthy of gods love jesus died and rose again to erase those sins i am washed in the blood sacrifice of the lamb of god jesus i am forgiven. all other religions are mans own efforts to achieve peace of mind and to earn a place in their equivalent to heaven many christian denominations add to the simple plan of salvation found in the bible through man made laws and restrictions that make it discouraging at best to try achieve their own salvation. salvation from sin should not discourage you. and of course you dont see the problem with that.... nope. error is error just as truth is truth. if something is truly of god and with god being perfect then that something can have no errors in it. why not just say it not that ill change back but at least its a bunch more honest. budd i dont really have an opinion either way - nor have i ever stated or implied one. i simply point out statements you make that either seem inconsistent as above or flat-out wrong such as your claims to civil rights violations. and your license of expertise right now sice you wouldnt be bothered to look there are court cases concerning the practice of christianity in the form of lawsuits to permit the veterans cross to remain in southern california the displaying of nativity scenes at christmas or to even be able to say merry christmas for that matter the right to have christian bible studys outside of the classrooms in schools or to have a morning prayer by christian kids across the street from the school that are being handled by the aclj. and what is being done in this group in these threads is no different in that christians are being told they cannot live and post according to their beliefs in this group without being harrassed for it according to the aclj. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

roy i think the observations do not support your experience. you are clearly an intelligent driver that does not abuse his machinery. in fact there probably are many automatic owners that are similar to you but your experience is not the norm. check the dodge groups and forums yoursef. i may not run my truck 1000000 miles but somebody will hence the high resale value. i do run my truck 300000 and i really would not like to have to repair my gearbox 3 times either. steve .

From : miles

i have noticed the high number of automatic transmission troubles on this and other groups and as a very satisfied owner of an 04 ctd enjoy the very high torque output of the ctd. with a vehicle weight of 7800 lbs empty and the high torque capability of the ctd it is easy to see why automobile type automatic gearboxes fail. only truck automatics in the same class as the big allison 6 speed will be reliable over time in this application and they are expensive and are not offered. dodge seems to have their transmission problems pretty much in hand it would seem. my 05 was problem free. dont kid youself that there havent been a bunch of problems with the dmax and the allison. so why do so many ctd owners insist on automatic gears when this observation is so easy for anyone to make the clutch on my ctd is a 13 in seriously heavy duty unit and it is very easy to trash this clutch with just a little abuse. perhaps you ctd owners with automatics could satisfy my curiosity by explaining your rational for making that choice. ease of operation. multiple drivers. of course the early gears fail more than the later models but even the late model gears are simply not up to the task. these trucks have 1000000 mile motors and 100000 mile gears. who keeps their pick up 1000000 miles steve .

From : miles

tbone wrote then you would be fooling yourself. why the dems said when put into power they had a list of 6 priorities to take care of in the first 100 hours. trouble is they didnt start the 100 hour clock until after already taking care of their real first priorities. the democrats first order of business was to make it easier to raise taxes. thats the bill they passed first before this propaganda bs 100 hour clock crap. raising taxes is where the dems priorities are and they just proved it. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote do you really want to go back to the industrial revolution times where all that existed were the few very rich and the rest being very poor that is the way it is heading if left unchecked. it is not heading that way at all. just propaganda without anything to go with it. totally different times we are in with vastly different circumstances in the economy. fact is the economy is doing very well now and the so called gap you whine about has remained flat for many years. i know liberals are all about doom and gloom and negativity so thats what youll tout no matter what. .

From : tbone

then you would be fooling yourself. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving check this out!!! http//www2.fox.com/polls/pollresults/bgresultsbusiness.jpgbasic1913.htm admittedly they are not scientific but as i understand these polls they are a cross section of america in general. budd budd cochran wrote the discussion a few months back and other times off and on you had with miles about limiting the income for business owners and inclusively ceos. the dems will effectively put such limits in place through absurdly high taxes. already their very first vote since they gained power was to abolish the 2/3s majority vote in order to raise taxes. as of this week it only takes a simple majority. dems want it much easier to raise taxes at will. this was their first vote the most important thing on their list of things to accomplish. there will be limits by punishing those that are successful. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

i have noticed the high number of automatic transmission troubles on this and other groups and as a very satisfied owner of an 04 ctd enjoy the very high torque output of the ctd. with a vehicle weight of 7800 lbs empty and the high torque capability of the ctd it is easy to see why automobile type automatic gearboxes fail. only truck automatics in the same class as the big allison 6 speed will be reliable over time in this application and they are expensive and are not offered. so why do so many ctd owners insist on automatic gears when this observation is so easy for anyone to make the clutch on my ctd is a 13 in seriously heavy duty unit and it is very easy to trash this clutch with just a little abuse. perhaps you ctd owners with automatics could satisfy my curiosity by explaining your rational for making that choice. of course the early gears fail more than the later models but even the late model gears are simply not up to the task. these trucks have 1000000 mile motors and 100000 mile gears. steve .

From : Annonymous

roy wrote thanks miles. im going to go with cingular as it seems to be the carrier of choice in the area of fl ill be running around in. also it works well along i-95. as for phones i really dont have any desire for all the bells and whistles. ive been looking hard at a motorola v 365. seems to be well thought of going by the reviews ive read. but ive more looking to do. take a look at this site from dodge. it has some good info and a list of compatible bluetooth phones. it lists the v360 but not the v365 but most likely its just not up to date with newer phones. http//www.dodge.com/crossbrand/uconnect/dodge/interface.html .

From : azwiley1

roy wrote you folks always come through thanks for all the info! now i have to decide on a phone. do you currently have cell phone service if you already have sprint i can tell you how to get a bargain on the phone of your choice. i got a treo 650 last year for $100. typical price for a treo is $400-$500 or with contract about $300 or so. along with being a phone it also has internet browsing email and views many windows files etc. thanks miles. im going to go with cingular as it seems to be the carrier of choice in the area of fl ill be running around in. also it works well along i-95. as for phones i really dont have any desire for all the bells and whistles. ive been looking hard at a motorola v 365. seems to be well thought of going by the reviews ive read. but ive more looking to do. .

From : miles

on tue 9 jan 2007 165539 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote and you say im the one with problems . . . . yep you are the sicko if you get your kicks from hurting others for their beliefs. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 120831 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. oh well youll not comprehend this any manner except how it best suits your purpose anyway. budd actually like most of us he wont give a flying fuck about it budd. so how long have you had trouble with reading and comprehension not to mention the cognizance of elapsed time periods i said that my wife helped me find my savior nearly thirty years ago john and that recently i decided to turn all my life over to him instead of holding back like so many do. do try to remember it this time. i remember it well. youre telling a different story now the original post stated that your bride insisted that you abandon your agnostic beliefs and take up religion as a condition of matrimony. .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote larry before you go one bit farther remember this you are the one asking someone to stop what they are doing. if you want to be an atheist or whatever go right ahead its your choice but i am going to live and be the person i believe i should be. once again...live your life your way. keep it to yourself or those who wish to share your views with you. tell me budd how many people here have your god commanded efforts brought over to your way of thinking in reality you have done nothing but shove everyone away. why do religious people think the best method to spread the word of god is to piss people off there are better ways. .

From : budd cochran

and you say im the one with problems . . . . you are the sicko if you get your kicks from hurting others for their beliefs. the victim show up as expected. .

From : roy

roy wrote you folks always come through thanks for all the info! now i have to decide on a phone. do you currently have cell phone service if you already have sprint i can tell you how to get a bargain on the phone of your choice. i got a treo 650 last year for $100. typical price for a treo is $400-$500 or with contract about $300 or so. along with being a phone it also has internet browsing email and views many windows files etc. .

From : roy

where the hell did i say you had to deny anything no where that is what your twisted mind wants to see. what i said was simple to understand hell my 10 year old son could even follow it was that if you respected a friendship you would stop forcing your god damned religion on people who ask you to. then you want me to deny what i believe become the old budd. how about you go back to the budd of say a year or so ago. or the one ya were before ya started posting all the stuff. .

From : budd cochran

two peas in a pod aint ya do ya think we make a good couple kinda like you and well.... i cant think of anybody id want paired off with ya. budd on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. could see that coming a 100 miles away!!bfg -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. gotta love it when avowed conservatives blame libs for loss of freedoms. study up and youll find that the conservatives are the ones gnawing away at our freedoms. gotta love it when liberals continue their denials that they want this country to be communistic. save that line for the next liberal you run across as ive stated on many occasions being anti-neocon doesnt make one a liberal. free thought is just as foreign a concept to the likes of you as the adherence to myth-based religions is to me. unfortunately christianity is not myth based. too many historical records prove otherwise. i have no problem with giving up some freedoms during a time of war to guarantee the safety of others which even includes the liberals. the country is more important than any political group. the freedoms you allude to are only the most recent in a long line of freedoms the conservatives have been chipping away at for years. they want to control what we say read watch and what goes on in our bedrooms. lol paranoia runs rampant . . . . if what youre doing isnt against the law why worry about it and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. careful john your bigotry is about to raise your blood pressure. yes bigotry against christians against those that either have to or choose to live in manufactured housing against those with possibly lower incomes lack of insurances . . . .shall i go on who else do you hate secretly unlike bible-thumping hypocrites of your ilk i make no pretense to be free of hatred and bigotry nor do i attempt to mask it under a veil of pseudo-piousness. aha now i understand you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. tomato/tomahto. obviously an admission from you here of the difference would be akin to you having to admit youre toatally wrong about everything. aint gonna happen is it would you as likely have become a bible-thumping hypocrite without your future brides insistence that you expose yourself to organized religion probably i was searching for truth and peace hinduism didnt have either for me. or would you have continued your training as a hindu read below and rejected christianity i cant believe you did this!!! how you must hate me. i had already decided to drop the hinduism partly because of its intolerance a

From : budd cochran

soul. gee do i gotta write complete books or cant you do a little deductive reasoning budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com . 222 327638 45a41ed2$0$4864$88260bb3@free.tera.com two peas in a pod aint ya budd on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. could see that coming a 100 miles away!!bfg -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

john kunkel wrote this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. gotta love it when avowed conservatives blame libs for loss of freedoms. study up and youll find that the conservatives are the ones gnawing away at our freedoms. now remind me again of my lost freedoms cant carry toothpaste in carry-on at the airport any more please dont go into an anti-patriot act diatribe! all those lost freedoms that no one seems to have actually experienced losing. and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. but they by and large elected democrats as conservative as the republicans they replaced! if you think the recent election results had much to do about bible thumping you must have been in a cave hiding out from conservatives looking to steal your personal freedoms. smh .

From : roy

the sad thing budd is that you dont you just choose to. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving if i have to deny my god to keep your friendship then i choose god. budd ok fine i am a liar and you are a bible thumping religious zealot that would rather ruin friendships then respect them in a manner that keeps your religious moral greatness out of it. this is your choice larry based on incorrect evidence and lies because you chose to ignore the fact there is at least one post that makes you the liar. but it is your choice. it also shows how little our past friendship meant to you. im sorry you feel this way but so be it. you are in gods hands now. yeah i might be in a gods hands now but remember something you are not it/him/her. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

bedrooms. and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. careful john your bigotry is about to raise your blood pressure. yes bigotry against christians against those that either have to or choose to live in manufactured housing against those with possibly lower incomes lack of insurances . . . .shall i go on who else do you hate secretly unlike bible-thumping hypocrites of your ilk i make no pretense to be free of hatred and bigotry nor do i attempt to mask it under a veil of pseudo-piousness. .

From : john kunkel

well it looks like you finally caught on. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ok fine i am a liar and you are a bible thumping religious zealot that would rather ruin friendships then respect them in a manner that keeps your religious moral greatness out of it. this is your choice larry based on incorrect evidence and lies because you chose to ignore the fact there is at least one post that makes you the liar. but it is your choice. it also shows how little our past friendship meant to you. im sorry you feel this way but so be it. you are in gods hands now. yeah i might be in a gods hands now but remember something you are not it/him/her. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

on tue 9 jan 2007 152525 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote ah yes best friend i needed a jog in the memory. the kid wasnt sean was it doesnt sound right maybe larry remembers. a little help here larry. no not sean. its on the tip of my tongue. ill remember it. lee was his name he used various screens as well. sean was the nutty canuck who kept up with the sf list. ya got it!!! the sf list! bfg i have a name that can go right to the top. anybody care to guess charles we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . 222 327628 c6kdnyfqxds4yt7ynz2dnuvzh2pnz2d@comcast.com this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. gotta love it when avowed conservatives blame libs for loss of freedoms. study up and youll find that the conservatives are the ones gnawing away at our freedoms. gotta love it when liberals continue their denials that they want this country to be communistic. save that line for the next liberal you run across as ive stated on many occasions being anti-neocon doesnt make one a liberal. free thought is just as foreign a concept to the likes of you as the adherence to myth-based religions is to me. i have no problem with giving up some freedoms during a time of war to guarantee the safety of others which even includes the liberals. the country is more important than any political group. the freedoms you allude to are only the most recent in a long line of freedoms the conservatives have been chipping away at for years. they want to control what we say read watch and what goes on

From : roy

on tue 9 jan 2007 152525 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote ah yes best friend i needed a jog in the memory. the kid wasnt sean was it doesnt sound right maybe larry remembers. a little help here larry. no not sean. its on the tip of my tongue. ill remember it. lee was his name he used various screens as well. sean was the nutty canuck who kept up with the sf list. ya got it!!! the sf list! bfg i have a name that can go right to the top. anybody care to guess charles .

From : bigironram

on tue 09 jan 2007 201638 gmt bigironram not@home.com wrote ah yes best friend i needed a jog in the memory. the kid wasnt sean was it doesnt sound right maybe larry remembers. a little help here larry. no not sean. its on the tip of my tongue. ill remember it. lee was his name he used various screens as well. sean was the nutty canuck who kept up with the sf list. yeah it was lee. young lee. nice catch. .

From : Annonymous

ah yes best friend i needed a jog in the memory. the kid wasnt sean was it doesnt sound right maybe larry remembers. a little help here larry. no not sean. its on the tip of my tongue. ill remember it. lee was his name he used various screens as well. sean was the nutty canuck who kept up with the sf list. ya got it!!! the sf list! bfg i have a name that can go right to the top. anybody care to guess .

From : roy

on tue 9 jan 2007 145811 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 9 jan 2007 144423 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 9 jan 2007 123129 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote where the hell did i say you had to deny anything no where that is what your twisted mind wants to see. what i said was simple to understand hell my 10 year old son could even follow it was that if you respected a friendship you would stop forcing your god damned religion on people who ask you to. why if i or anyone wants to be your friend to we have to live like you and have religion your religion thrown in our faces all the damn time you are starting to remind me of lil jay. remember him think waaaay back. he started to act just like this before he finally left the group never to be seen from. he was always right no matter how many times he had been proven wrong. i remember lil jay. he was wierd. hmmmm were you around then havent we had this discussion ive been around for a long time just under various screen names. he was here then. also nate was here as the sandman or something. there was also a young kid from minnesota or something. nice kid. he sort of lost interest when he went away to college as i recall. that was when i first starting hanging out with you homies you know ah yes best friend i needed a jog in the memory. the kid wasnt sean was it doesnt sound right maybe larry remembers. a little help here larry. no not sean. its on the tip of my tongue. ill remember it. .

From : john kunkel

look it up in the dictionary. it is correct. preventative is used at my work all the time. larry behold beware believe snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on mon 08 jan 2007 142811 gmt aarcuda69062 nonelson@sbcglobal.net wrote snojob makes things up as he goes. no you do becaue you only how to attack things you do not understand. i just correct your errors so the unsuspecting dont go off track. as do quite a few others if you want to make a big deal and act like a child about a mispelling of preventative do you mean preventive one t no a go to the head of the class! preventive not preventative! mike knock yourself out. anything to make you feel better about yourself. there is non so ignorant as those who refuse to learn... -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

on tue 9 jan 2007 144423 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 9 jan 2007 123129 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote where the hell did i say you had to deny anything no where that is what your twisted mind wants to see. what i said was simple to understand hell my 10 year old son could even follow it was that if you respected a friendship you would stop forcing your god damned religion on people who ask you to. why if i or anyone wants to be your friend to we have to live like you and have religion your religion thrown in our faces all the damn time you are starting to remind me of lil jay. remember him think waaaay back. he started to act just like this before he finally left the group never to be seen from. he was always right no matter how many times he had been proven wrong. i remember lil jay. he was wierd. hmmmm were you around then havent we had this discussion ive been around for a long time just under various screen names. he was here then. also nate was here as the sandman or something. there was also a young kid from minnesota or something. nice kid. he sort of lost interest when he went away to college as i recall. that was when i first starting hanging out with you homies you know ah yes best friend i needed a jog in the memory. the kid wasnt sean was it doesnt sound right maybe larry remembers. a little help here larry. .

From : royroy

no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. tomato/tomahto. would you as likely have become a bible-thumping hypocrite without your future brides insistence that you expose yourself to organized religion or would you have continued your training as a hindu read below and rejected christianity date fri oct 6 2006 1025 am i was a novice hindu after spending 20 years as an agnostic. i became a christian when my wife of now 29 years insisted i go to church with her. .

From : Annonymous

on tue 9 jan 2007 144423 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on tue 9 jan 2007 123129 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote where the hell did i say you had to deny anything no where that is what your twisted mind wants to see. what i said was simple to understand hell my 10 year old son could even follow it was that if you respected a friendship you would stop forcing your god damned religion on people who ask you to. why if i or anyone wants to be your friend to we have to live like you and have religion your religion thrown in our faces all the damn time you are starting to remind me of lil jay. remember him think waaaay back. he started to act just like this before he finally left the group never to be seen from. he was always right no matter how many times he had been proven wrong. i remember lil jay. he was wierd. hmmmm were you around then havent we had this discussion ive been around for a long time just under various screen names. he was here then. also nate was here as the sandman or something. there was also a young kid from minnesota or something. nice kid. he sort of lost interest when he went away to college as i recall. that was when i first starting hanging out with you homies you know .

From : roy

on tue 9 jan 2007 123129 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote where the hell did i say you had to deny anything no where that is what your twisted mind wants to see. what i said was simple to understand hell my 10 year old son could even follow it was that if you respected a friendship you would stop forcing your god damned religion on people who ask you to. why if i or anyone wants to be your friend to we have to live like you and have religion your religion thrown in our faces all the damn time you are starting to remind me of lil jay. remember him think waaaay back. he started to act just like this before he finally left the group never to be seen from. he was always right no matter how many times he had been proven wrong. i remember lil jay. he was wierd. hmmmm were you around then .

From : roy

on tue 9 jan 2007 122103 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote then why did he ask then for that matter why did you even read the post if it doesnt matter to you entertainment budd. you should know that by now. could see that coming a 100 miles away!!bfg .

From : roy

on tue 9 jan 2007 123129 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote where the hell did i say you had to deny anything no where that is what your twisted mind wants to see. what i said was simple to understand hell my 10 year old son could even follow it was that if you respected a friendship you would stop forcing your god damned religion on people who ask you to. why if i or anyone wants to be your friend to we have to live like you and have religion your religion thrown in our faces all the damn time you are starting to remind me of lil jay. remember him think waaaay back. he started to act just like this before he finally left the group never to be seen from. he was always right no matter how many times he had been proven wrong. i remember lil jay. he was wierd. whatever you are to twisted around in the head to see or understand anything that your fucked up fundamental christian propaganda religious bullshit wont let you understand. if i have to deny my god to keep your friendship then i choose god. budd ok fine i am a liar and you are a bible thumping religious zealot that would rather ruin friendships then respect them in a manner that keeps your religious moral greatness out of it. this is your choice larry based on incorrect evidence and lies because you chose to ignore the fact there is at least one post that makes you the liar. but it is your choice. it also shows how little our past friendship meant to you. im sorry you feel this way but so be it. you are in gods hands now. yeah i might be in a gods hands now but remember something you are not it/him/her. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

you are starting to remind me of lil jay. remember him think waaaay back. he started to act just like this before he finally left the group never to be seen from. he was always right no matter how many times he had been proven wrong. wow!! now theres a name from the past. good point by the way. .

From : azwiley1

remember some time ago you asked what was going on it is what it is larry we have all been down the same road a couple of times. budd i never thought it would come to this but you are the biggest hypocritical ass i have had the displeasure of knowing. i am not following anyone i am being myself. difference between me and you is that i am not so stupidly blinded by some religious beliefs that i cant see the light of day. you keep preaching and preaching and flat out refuse to see that you are being an ass. you are wrong budd you have been asked to stop and you refuse to. you are forcing your beliefs on people who do not want them! wtf is so hard to under stand i have even told you that i am not interested in hearing your religious banter but you keep going. you need help. budd i have to step in here again in hopes of being the voice of reason. this may be who you are and who you will be from now on and i am know that most in here could care less about it. that doesnt bother me. a true friend would not be bother by a change i make in my life for the better but would rather support it. i also know that tom is right on this one. the one thing that you fail to see realize and understand is that no one gives a damn about the who you are they have only asked repeatedly that you stop ramming your religions beliefs on everyone else in the group. and repeatedly i have denied doing so but not one of you including you has bothered to check to see if what i say is true or not you just go along with the claim that i am. now tell me where is the justice in that i hate to say but by asking you to stop doing that is not a violation of any law or constitutional freedom. however though it does not break a law that i know of you are wrong to continue to force them on people who have asked you time and time again to stop. i would stop if i were in the wrong but like i said a moment ago you all follow t-bone theguy and roy like good little lambs to slaughter and dont bother to see if what im saying is true or not. if that is friendship im better off without it. why most you insist on trying to convert everyone to your beliefs because that is what it strongly appears that you are trying to do. you have even gone so far in the past as to tell miles iirc that he was going to burn in hell because he did not follow your path of beliefs. larry one more cotton picking time i dont give a darn what you believe if you want roy t-bone or theguy as your god then fine but darn it i was not prosyletizing!!!!! look at it this way if it helps you see. in the military i know you had some form of eo training right in that training did they not teach you that if even one 1 uno person complained to you or someone else about something that was said or done then you as the person who did/said it are wrong and any further such incidents will be ceased. not when i went thru we still had a form of equal justice the ucmj back then it seems. it went before your nco your platoon leader co and then upward if need be. well this really is no different. no one here has ever said you are not free to worship as you please or to follow the religious path you choose. well yes they have but no one will admit it and in the service btw i as an nco was trained to chew butt in private praise in public . . .or has that been dropped also but we here are not you nor do we desire to follow the same path as you so why cant you just post reference to the subject with out all the religious stuff with it i know you can you know you can. ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. gotta love it when avowed conservatives blame libs for loss of freedoms. study up and youll find that the conservatives are the ones gnawing away at our freedoms. and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. dont ya see the humor in it john while one of them was preaching in the morning he was paying his boyfriend in the evening. gotta love it. .

From : Annonymous

where the hell did i say you had to deny anything no where that is what your twisted mind wants to see. what i said was simple to understand hell my 10 year old son could even follow it was that if you respected a friendship you would stop forcing your god damned religion on people who ask you to. why if i or anyone wants to be your friend to we have to live like you and have religion your religion thrown in our faces all the damn time you are starting to remind me of lil jay. remember him think waaaay back. he started to act just like this before he finally left the group never to be seen from. he was always right no matter how many times he had been proven wrong. whatever you are to twisted around in the head to see or understand anything that your fucked up fundamental christian propaganda religious bullshit wont let you understand. if i have to deny my god to keep your friendship then i choose god. budd ok fine i am a liar and you are a bible thumping religious zealot that would rather ruin friendships then respect them in a manner that keeps your religious moral greatness out of it. this is your choice larry based on incorrect evidence and lies because you chose to ignore the fact there is at least one post that makes you the liar. but it is your choice. it also shows how little our past friendship meant to you. im sorry you feel this way but so be it. you are in gods hands now. yeah i might be in a gods hands now but remember something you are not it/him/her. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

for some reason i cant seem to convince anyone to ride under the hood and listen for the noise when pulling away from a stop so my long-shot question is... how about you bring it by and i drive and you can curl up under the hood g if he takes you up on this one.......well lets just say that the rest of us know your crazy butt too well to let you drive!!!! gbfg -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. is the rattle a common/known problem please no its a diesel its supposed to rattle answers thanks. .

From : budd cochran

what might cause something like this i would guess a worn multi-function switch thats the switch in the steering column that handles the turn signals high beams wipers etc. i agree if it only happens on switch activation its likely a balky switch rather than a heat load tripping. .

From : budd cochran

nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote aarcuda69062 wrote nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote aarcuda69062 wrote nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote exactly what snoman meant by it in the original message im not sure. but it is a valid word after the spelling correction. if you swap preventive or preventative for peventate in his post it still reads like the ranting of a lunatic coming unglued. unglued maybe. i think the little snowball on top is beginning to melt. effects of global warming i heard from a reliable source that the snoball on top melted so much that the carrot failed the obscenity laws and snojob got a big honkin ticket from the cops... that must have been whats going on in this picture. i was wondering what was happening. see http//i13.tinypic.com/4clo5t3.jpg that cop sure has a set of snow-balls. there ya go! if they show up missing maybe snojob will answer the question that roy as been asking him for what 4-5 months now. well probably get some tired old story about when he drove dump trucks it wasnt my question originally i think it was tom l. or chris thompson that asked the first time. i sorta been wandering around with it. he ducked and avoided it again on the ford group yesterday. i think im due to get a go for bigger gears to cure all problems already had the dump truck deal.vbg roy could have been either of us as we both had one uh tom may still have his i cant afford as many toys as he can *poke* -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : budd cochran

if i have to deny my god to keep your friendship then i choose god. budd ok fine i am a liar and you are a bible thumping religious zealot that would rather ruin friendships then respect them in a manner that keeps your religious moral greatness out of it. this is your choice larry based on incorrect evidence and lies because you chose to ignore the fact there is at least one post that makes you the liar. but it is your choice. it also shows how little our past friendship meant to you. im sorry you feel this way but so be it. you are in gods hands now. yeah i might be in a gods hands now but remember something you are not it/him/her. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. gotta love it when avowed conservatives blame libs for loss of freedoms. study up and youll find that the conservatives are the ones gnawing away at our freedoms. gotta love it when liberals continue their denials that they want this country to be communistic. i have no problem with giving up some freedoms during a time of war to guarantee the safety of others which even includes the liberals. the country is more important than any political group. and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. careful john your bigotry is about to raise your blood pressure. yes bigotry against christians against those that either have to or choose to live in manufactured housing against those with possibly lower incomes lack of insurances . . . .shall i go on who else do you hate secretly budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

on tue 9 jan 2007 120831 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote no john she insisted i go to church with her and as an agnostic it wasnt as important to me whether to attend church or not as it was being with her. she did not demand i become a christian but i became one anyway as a choice that i made about 1 year after we were married. oh well youll not comprehend this any manner except how it best suits your purpose anyway. budd actually like most of us he wont give a flying fuck about it budd. so how long have you had trouble with reading and comprehension not to mention the cognizance of elapsed time periods i said that my wife helped me find my savior nearly thirty years ago john and that recently i decided to turn all my life over to him instead of holding back like so many do. do try to remember it this time. i remember it well. youre telling a different story now the original post stated that your bride insisted that you abandon your agnostic beliefs and take up religion as a condition of matrimony. .

From : john kunkel

ok fine i am a liar and you are a bible thumping religious zealot that would rather ruin friendships then respect them in a manner that keeps your religious moral greatness out of it. this is your choice larry based on incorrect evidence and lies because you chose to ignore the fact there is at least one post that makes you the liar. but it is your choice. it also shows how little our past friendship meant to you. im sorry you feel this way but so be it. you are in gods hands now. yeah i might be in a gods hands now but remember something you are not it/him/her. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : john kunkel

this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. gotta love it when avowed conservatives blame libs for loss of freedoms. study up and youll find that the conservatives are the ones gnawing away at our freedoms. and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. the bible-thumping trailer trash that turned out in droves to elect their fellow bible-thumper bush have simply realized they were taken by a huckster and showed their discontent at the polls. .

From : budd cochran

btw fyi that one post along with the others is the op in this thread larry. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing

From : azwiley1

this is your choice larry based on incorrect evidence and lies because you chose to ignore the fact there is at least one post that makes you the liar. but it is your choice. it also shows how little our past friendship meant to you. im sorry you feel this way but so be it. you are in gods hands now. budd btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

btw you are full of shit there hasnt been one damn post from you since you came back to the group you said you were done with for good that did not have religion in it anywhere. i have the guts you religious zealot but you dont. you are hiding behind your beliefs forcing them on others and refuse to stop. you are not and never will be a god so stop professing like one. and to set the record straight there has never been a time where i have ever said i was kill filing you i was ignoring you. but once again you play the victim you force your religion on others that have said time and time again they are not interested and you keep going. no one gives a fuck about what you belief to be the truth or the word of god that is your belief but you are to twisted in the damn head to understand that nothing in here requires you to preach and to answer a damn vehicle related question with anything about religion. you are wrong wrong wrong to continue to push your beliefs on people that do not want it. even a minister understands that when some one expresses that they are not interested in it that they do not keep forcing it. you are the exact reason why i have denounced any form of organized religion. good day to you preacher budd ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. no one has the guts to admit ive made posts without religious content. heck i thought i was in your killfile anyway. put me back please if this is all ill be getting from you. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tom lawrence

this is a long shot but i thought i would ask... i have a 99 ctd with 5-speed. when pulling away from a stop there is a momentary rattle coming from somewhere under the hood sounds like it is right behind or near the firewall on drivers side. the sound is not real loud but it is noticeable. it sounds as though the engine is torquing over and causing something to hit. it disappears quickly once the truck gets moving. i have yet to spot any marks where anything is rubbing/hitting the motor mounts seem to be ok and i cant get it to make the noise by loading the clutch while the vehicle is stationary. ive never had a clutch chatter on me before so i dont know if it could be a clutch/pressure plate wearing out but it doent make any noise up/down shifting and doesnt feel as though the clutch is engaging roughly nor does it sound quite like what i imagine it would. for some reason i cant seem to convince anyone to ride under the hood and listen for the noise when pulling away from a stop so my long-shot question is... is the rattle a common/known problem please no its a diesel its supposed to rattle answers thanks. .

From : beekeep

what might cause something like this i would guess a worn multi-function switch thats the switch in the steering column that handles the turn signals high beams wipers etc. .

From : nosey

on tue 9 jan 2007 054428 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote im done with your assasinations. huh take a deep breath budd. im just asking simple questions. i havent said one mean thing to you. i even said please at least once. -- ken he always ends up the victim beekeep .

From : budd cochran

nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote exactly what snoman meant by it in the original message im not sure. but it is a valid word after the spelling correction. if you swap preventive or preventative for peventate in his post it still reads like the ranting of a lunatic coming unglued. .

From : budd cochran

ya know look again at the beginning of this thread larry but open your eyes this time. ken nosey brought the religion into this thread. go chew him out cause i aint listening to any more of this stuff from anyone. true i intentionally brought it up in this thread. -- ken .

From : budd cochran

nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote aarcuda69062 wrote nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote aarcuda69062 wrote nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote exactly what snoman meant by it in the original message im not sure. but it is a valid word after the spelling correction. if you swap preventive or preventative for peventate in his post it still reads like the ranting of a lunatic coming unglued. unglued maybe. i think the little snowball on top is beginning to melt. effects of global warming i heard from a reliable source that the snoball on top melted so much that the carrot failed the obscenity laws and snojob got a big honkin ticket from the cops... that must have been whats going on in this picture. i was wondering what was happening. see http//i13.tinypic.com/4clo5t3.jpg that cop sure has a set of snow-balls. there ya go! if they show up missing maybe snojob will answer the question that roy as been asking him for what 4-5 months now. well probably get some tired old story about when he drove dump trucks it wasnt my question originally i think it was tom l. or chris thompson that asked the first time. i sorta been wandering around with it. he ducked and avoided it again on the ford group yesterday. i think im due to get a go for bigger gears to cure all problems already had the dump truck deal.vbg roy .

From : miles

ed h. wrote so any blue tooth enabled phone paired to the dodge u-connect system will use the same voice prompts to place a call if so thats pretty neat! do you need to include 10 digits area code + 7 in the u-connect system to accommodate roving cell phones yep! the voice prompts are the same in every u-connect vehicle regardless of the phone used. you need to store the numbers in the u-connect exactly how they need to be dialed including 1 or area code etc. to have it dial a stored number you say call and then say the name of the person and then work home or mobile. you can also tell it to dial a number by saying the word dial and then the number. voice recognition is very good. you do not train it to your own voice. it seems to work with most people except those with a heavy southern accent. .

From : miles

so any blue tooth enabled phone paired to the dodge u-connect system will use the same voice prompts to place a call if so thats pretty neat! do you need to include 10 digits area code + 7 in the u-connect system to accommodate roving cell phones with dodges u-connect system the phone does not need to support voice commands in order to dial using voice commands. the u-connect system has its own support for that. while my phone does have voice command support i have never set it up. i use the u-connects voice prompts and all works great. the phone list is stored in the u-connect rather than using the list in my phone. .

From : nosey

roy wrote i thought it was blue spray paint for your teeth bfg spoken with experience im sure.vbg i thought down south it was tooth not teeth.gbfg roy hes from georgia. most of us have teeth here. you must be thinking of alabama. did you know the toothbrush was invented in alabama anywhere else it would have been called a teethbrush. -- ken .

From : miles

on 2007-01-09 geekboy dadada@dooda.com wrote we live way out in the middle of nowhere and frequently in winter have to turn our high beams on. sometimes when turning the high beams on or off the headlights will go out all together. we have to turn flipping them on and off a few times and then they correct themselves. heat opening a circuit somewhere. any idea how to find out where - might replacing the headlights do it the bulbs get pretty hot that could cause a problem although in theory it shouldnt. .

From : budd cochran

check this out!!! http//www2.fox.com/polls/pollresults/bgresultsbusiness.jpgbasic1913.htm admittedly they are not scientific but as i understand these polls they are a cross section of america in general. budd budd cochran wrote the discussion a few months back and other times off and on you had with miles about limiting the income for business owners and inclusively ceos. the dems will effectively put such limits in place through absurdly high taxes. already their very first vote since they gained power was to abolish the 2/3s majority vote in order to raise taxes. as of this week it only takes a simple majority. dems want it much easier to raise taxes at will. this was their first vote the most important thing on their list of things to accomplish. there will be limits by punishing those that are successful. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote basically im saying that if god says it so will i. you dont like it killfile me. so if you enjoy dishing it out because its what god tells you to do then why are you complaining about anyone you gives it back if you dish it out then expect it back. why do religious people seem to think they can win people over to their beliefs by such methods there are better ways to achieve your goals. far better ways. what you are doing is shoving people further away not drawing them in. something i doubt you nor many other religious people will ever understand. you are a classic example of why religion is crumbling in this world. .

From : budd cochran

yep and there goes the free enterprise system down the tube and guess what socialism is waiting behind the podium. this once was a free country . . .the u.s.a. is dead long live the u.s.a. and the dead butt conservatives that couldnt be bothered to get out and vote the dumb butt conservatives that fell for the libral lies have no one to blame but themselves. budd budd cochran wrote the discussion a few months back and other times off and on you had with miles about limiting the income for business owners and inclusively ceos. the dems will effectively put such limits in place through absurdly high taxes. already their very first vote since they gained power was to abolish the 2/3s majority vote in order to raise taxes. as of this week it only takes a simple majority. dems want it much easier to raise taxes at will. this was their first vote the most important thing on their list of things to accomplish. there will be limits by punishing those that are successful. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

1999 dodge durango. we live way out in the middle of nowhere and frequently in winter have to turn our high beams on. sometimes when turning the high beams on or off the headlights will go out all together. we have to turn flipping them on and off a few times and then they correct themselves. heat opening a circuit somewhere. what might cause something like this .

From : budd cochran

thank you sir. now if the only the others will read it . . . . oh well i believe in miracles. vbg budd budd cochran wrote btw ken it was this link by you that brought the religious content into this thread. budd ok budd. you are off the hook for this one. ill take the blame for bringing it up. -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : nosey

what is youre islamic alex. genesis for $2000 please. my beliefs dont call for that and in fact neither does islam. corruptions of mohammeds teachings are what call for it. budd i am being socially correct. when is it wrong to live according to your beliefs when your beliefs tell you that you must kill all infidels and you blow yourself up in a crowded coffee shop killing dozens of innocent people -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

do you believe that one person has more of a right to choose their religion than another person nope but i am required by my beliefs to teach the truth. i take that to mean that you /do/ agree that one person has no more right to choose their religion than another person. right. i didnt ask you about teaching any truths but i dont think thats what you meant anyway. dont change my words i said what i meant based on my beliefs which demand i say what i mean. iow lying not allowed its a sin. perhaps you meant that you are required by your beliefs to teach your faith. my faith is my faith your results may be different. i am called to teach the truth. it may appear to just be insignificant semantics but it makes a very big difference in the meaning. its not semantics its truth. funny how people will follow very poorly supported philosophies like plato or socrates but revile the one with the best support the bible. what if one persons religous practices are disrespectful to another persons religous belief who has more of a right then as in yours is direspectful of mine you answered it for yourself. im asking you a question about what you believe. i cant possibly answer that for myself. you have to do it on your own. if you cant answer it for yourself then your beliefs are a real mess. so please answer the question what if one persons religous practices are disrespectful to another persons religous belief who has more of a right then neither. but it does not stop truth from being truth whether its accepted or not. im done with your assasinations. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

basically im saying that if god says it so will i. you dont like it killfile me. budd budd cochran wrote so tell me something when will that apply to me as soon as you decide to stop ridiculing others for their views or telling them theyre going to hell. basically what im saying budd is if you do not like it then dont dish it out. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

well fidel castro has been one for a couple decades but only on his own island. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. ok i give up what does peventate mean beekeep on mon 08 jan 2007 015514 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on sun 07 jan 2007 124206 -0600 juanalong juanalong@cableone.net wrote most likely from heat. years ago i purchased a dashboard cover and have never experienced cracked dash boards. good luck. use stp son of a gun not armorall as it peventate vinyl and keeps .

From : budd cochran

on mon 8 jan 2007 124447 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote this is something i know nothing aboutalong with a ton of other things. anyway the charger has it. i have to get a cell phone that has it as well. thats as far as i go. what do ya have to do to operate them do they kinda initialize themselves like a key fob i have a month or two to get this understood. tia roy are you drinking tidy bowl again beekeep .

From : budd cochran

i am being socially correct. when is it wrong to live according to your beliefs budd nope tom i do not. i realize you will never do some things that are socially correct so i dismiss them as a learning experience for myself about you. more lies and you should be the last one to talk about anyone not being socially correct. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

when will you get a clue this is who i am who i will be from now on out. budd when you stop ramming your beliefs down others throats even after they ask you to stop. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving so tell me something when will that apply to me budd budd cochran wrote the only problem ken is that i wasnt harboring any grudges against anyone in this group and still dont but many chose to take offense that i made a decision to try to live closer to my god and what he wants me to be. i and most others here dont care how you want to live your life. but you take offense at their ways the same way you accuse them of. thats why religion shouldnt be discussed in ngs!! everyone has their own views. live them and let others live theirs the way they choose without ridicule. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

stephen harding wrote it seems many talk favorably of free speech rights but as soon as someone speaks out on an issue from a religious perspective theyre proselytizing or forcing their beliefs down ones throat. suddenly tolerance and diversity of opinion isnt such a great thing after all. whoa here. show me one single religious post here that has ever been censored and removed as a result nobodies freedom of speech is being infringed upon. take the dixie bitches for example. they cried foul and said people dont seem to believe in freedom of speech rights telling them to shut up. in reality their rights are not infringed upon at all. they can buy their soap box to spew their crap and others can exercise their rights by telling them where to shove it. why do so many have a complete lack of understanding of what freedom of speech in the constitution means .

From : miles

hey mike and others how about this one. pmcs be sure to follow the pmic applicable mims and mrcs too. -- ken . 222 327547 b5eoh.33342$9s6.18946@fe15.phx budd cochran wrote the discussion a few months back and other times off and on you had with miles about limiting the income for business owners and inclusively ceos. the dems will effectively put such limits in place through absurdly high taxes. already their very first vote since they gained power was to abolish the 2/3s majority vote in order to raise taxes. as of this week it only takes a simple majority. dems want it much easier to raise taxes at will. this was their first vote the most important thing on their list of things to accomplish. there will be limits by punishing those that are successful. .

From : tom lawrence

p&v wrote anyone have problems with the front end of the 2000 ram 1500 squeaking only 25k on the truck but ive had to replace the ball joints already. thanks. dakotas of the same years are famous for the really annoying sqeak. the answer is to grease the end bushings on the sway bar. works in a dakota might work on a ram. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : tbone

budd cochran wrote no ken i meant it as i wrote it word for word. one person has the gumption to not hide his beliefs and some take offense the old i liked you better before stuff. you liked me better before what read it again slower ok theres no need for discussion. i believe as i choose. i post as those beliefs constrain me to if no religious content required none posted; if required it will be in the post. as far as i can tell its never required. as far as you can tell . . .i am not you. do you believe that one person has more of a right to choose their religion than another person nope but i am required by my beliefs to teach the truth. what if one persons religous practices are disrespectful to another persons religous belief who has more of a right then ken as in yours is direspectful of mine you answered it for yourself. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

so how long have you had trouble with reading and comprehension not to mention the cognizance of elapsed time periods i said that my wife helped me find my savior nearly thirty years ago john and that recently i decided to turn all my life over to him instead of holding back like so many do. do try to remember it this time. budd the only problem ken is that i wasnt harboring any grudges against anyone in this group and still dont but many chose to take offense that i made a decision to try to live closer to my god and what he wants me to be. another lie. according to a previous post your bride made the decision for you. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on mon 08 jan 2007 142811 gmt aarcuda69062 nonelson@sbcglobal.net wrote snojob makes things up as he goes. no you do becaue you only how to attack things you do not understand. i just correct your errors so the unsuspecting dont go off track. as do quite a few others if you want to make a big deal and act like a child about a mispelling of preventative do you mean preventive one t no a knock yourself out. anything to make you feel better about yourself. there is non so ignorant as those who refuse to learn... .

From : nosey

damn tom he got you with that one! vbfg tbone wrote now some of you are just acting like assholes. im so sorry! where should we send your royalties .

From : nosey

1999 dodge durango. we live way out in the middle of nowhere and frequently in winter have to turn our high beams on. sometimes when turning the high beams on or off the headlights will go out all together. we have to turn flipping them on and off a few times and then they correct themselves. what might cause something like this .

From : nosey

budd cochran wrote btw ken it was this link by you that brought the religious content into this thread. budd ok budd. you are off the hook for this one. ill take the blame for bringing it up. -- ken .

From : john kunkel

tbone wrote now some of you are just acting like assholes. im so sorry! where should we send your royalties .

From : bob m

budd cochran wrote and that is what christians called by god to do. wouldnt you want to be warned you had a piano falling on your head then why not be warned about hell im somewhat sympathetic towards the person speaking morally on issues of today from a religious perspective. it seems many talk favorably of free speech rights but as soon as someone speaks out on an issue from a religious perspective theyre proselytizing or forcing their beliefs down ones throat. suddenly tolerance and diversity of opinion isnt such a great thing after all. however...how long are you going to keep warning someone of the piano about to drop on their head say the piano fell from so high that several minutes would pass before impact. how long do you need to keep warning hmm seems ive said something along those lines before....and quoted scripture on it. seems to me you just write them off at some point. youve met your moral obligation. time to move on. god gave humans free will right let them make use of it even at their peril. yup i cant say my interpretation of god is as old testament as yours but i think youd score more points by just stating your position and move on. one doesnt score extra points by repeated bludgeonings of people with ones beliefs beyond a certain point. well geee. im not the only one that sees it that way. for a min there i thought i was. its ultimately up to the individual to save themselves not you. youve spoken it more elequently than i have in the past. smh -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : budd cochranbudd cochran

the discussion a few months back and other times off and on you had with miles about limiting the income for business owners and inclusively ceos. the point is tom as miles tried to tell you this is a free enterprise free market society and it is by majority rule what about 80% in favor of no limitations. in this country you are in the minority in this attitude and will probably never see those limits in place. no need to discuss it as it was just for your information. just thought youd find it interesting to read and it kinda proves youre wrong about how i feel towards you doesnt it budd ok i give up what exactly is the point -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving since you disagree http//www.fox.com/story/0293324211700.html enjoy! budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

nope tom i do not. i realize you will never do some things that are socially correct so i dismiss them as a learning experience for myself about you. budd oh give me a break budd you harbor a huge resentment against me and denying it just increases the extent of the untruth. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving the only problem ken is that i wasnt harboring any grudges against anyone in this group and still dont but many chose to take offense that i made a decision to try to live closer to my god and what he wants me to be. so who is it really that needs to let bygones be bygones budd budd cochran wrote since you disagree http//www.fox.com/story/0293324211700.html enjoy! budd and a related story for budd http//www.fox.com/story/0293324129800.html ;^ -- ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

security service tribunal denies in june 1997 the security service tribunal wrote to me regarding the complaint i had brought against mi5 in february. they say the security service tribunal have now investigated your complaint and have asked me to inform you that no determination in your favour has been made on your complaint. again i do not believe their denials. i think mi5 *has* taken the action against me as described and is refusing to admit what they have done. to the best of my knowledge the security service tribunal has *never* found in favour of a complainant. this tends to strongly suggest that mi5 lies on a routine basis and the tribunal cant fulfil its functions in the face of security service falsehoods. 23 .

From : tbone

i have a 2000 dakota automatic with 4x4 with front disk and rear drum brakes with rear abs option. the abs and brake warning lights go on together important element and there are no problems with the disk brakes brake fluid rear brakes. everythings been changed/checked includin fluid levels. everything seems to work ok. i beleive the abs is ok too but havent had ice to try it out yet... been too warm here rather odd once its reset it stays off for a while then comes on again usually at speeds over say 30 mph 50km/h anyone have any experience with this or a solution is there anything i should be worried about thanks all. a great forum! .

From : tbone

more lies. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving only the left denies the truth. i see youre speaking to me again . . .my loss im sure. budd ah the liberal un peacekeepers in inaction again . . . the un sent peacekeepers who promptly looked away took bribes and generally did nothing and you are surprised maybe you should try fox they reported this moths ago. budd as did the liberal pbs and the rest of the liberal press. its ironic that the right wingers who continually badmouth the u.n. are the same ones who cite saddams disregard for u.n. resolutions as a reason for invading iraq. in fact the u.n. resolution issue is about the only reason the bushinistas have left to support the invasion. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : nosey

just saw on speed that bobby hamilton sr. died today at his home at the age of 49. he died from the neck and head cancer he was diagnosed with last year. .

From : miles

i have a 94 dodge ram 1500 5.2l magnum that just rolled past 200000 miles earlier this month and although it still runs well it is showing its age and the engine feels a little tired. the truck is paid for and insurance is cheap so instead of buying a new truck however i would like to fix this one up. i have an 89 318 out of a b250 van sitting in my garage that i would like to rebuild and swap the top endheads intake etc. and fuel injection system from my truck onto so that i can put it in the truck. i would like to stroke it during the build to get more cubes and more torque for towing but most of the stroker kits i have found include expensive forged pistons and are over $1000. i plan to keep the compression fairly low and this engine will not see much abuse or high rpm use so cast pistons should be okay and would be prefferable due to my limited budget. does anyone know of a stroker crank that can be used with stock type cast 318 pistons and rods maybe a 360 crank with the mains turned down also does anyone know of a good aftermarket cam kit for this build thanks for your advice! the magnum parts will not swap onto the pre magnum engine. why not just start with a magnum 360 easy swap and more cubes than a stroker cheap too. .

From : budd cochran

ok you are the one that says im plating the victim but you dont even realize that by telling me in public forum that you want me to stop being the christian i should be as i understand the scriptures which includes correcting misquotes suggesting scriptiures as advice to someone living my faith as i understand i should and by defending what i believe in you are denying me my rights as guaranteed by the first amendment. this has been confirmed by discussions with my pastor the american center for law and justice and protected by the constitution. budd roy has never denied you your right to worship or speak as you wish as granted by the first amendment. this is a unmoderated group. that means he is not the moderator and has no power to stop your posts. any one can walk up to you in the street and say thats enough already just has he has here. and it would not be denying you your right to free speach and freedom to worship. today our pastor taught from the 4th chapter of nehemiah and from ephesians 6. some are called to defend the walls while others are to build the walls. what is it then when im told to not post what i believe i should and am called very insulting names for it i know god will avenge the names but when anyone slams any christian he slams us all as the body of christ. ive got one further simple question budd. what fruit has come of this arguement and that is intended as a retorical question. as i stated i wish not to argue about it but instead to simply make a friendly observation. what fruit how about some are learning hopefully that christians dont all hide under a bushel now roy just for the record i didnt not intend to start such a long argument errr continue one. i hope nothing i have done has offended you as that was not my intent. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : nosey

rotflmbo!!!!! who is the greater fool the fool or the fool that follows a fool alec guiness as obi wan kenobi in star wars episode iv. go on roy believe him if you want it dont make a bit of difference to me. vbg budd i think that it does budd or you would not have replied. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote yea because the republicans did so much about it in the 12 years they had to work with lol!!! neither party wants to do a thing about illegal immigration. they both pander to them. however i do not see the reps in several states supporting free school free healthcare drivers licenses etc for illegals. that would be the dems. .

From : budd cochran

btw john there had better be someone ripping into you for this because youve done exactly what ive done and no more no less. otherwise they show their bigotry and hypocrisy. their credence goes down the tube as yours just did. you know pkb. budd if i wrote out the passage or gave you the reference chapter and verse how the heck would that be my interpretation the only interpretation would be how you understand it. i wonder how budds interpretation of the following passages compares to his everyday life matthew 6 1. beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your father who is in heaven. 2. so when you give to the poor do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets so that they may be honored by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 3. but when you give to the poor do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing 4. so that your giving will be in secret; and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. 5. when you pray you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. truly i say to you they have their reward in full. 6. but you when you pray go into your inner room close your door and pray to your father who is in secret and your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

again miles when will i be given the same respect by you it hasnt been happening as this originally religion free thread proves. i didnt inject the religious content but youre on my case about it. and that makes you the one in the wrong. budd budd cochran wrote then quit whining when i happen to add a bit of religious content. if you learn to respect others views that differ from your own. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

though it is truly none of your concern i dont have an anger management problem. i do however have an intolerance toward people who demand things from others and refuse to give the same in return. i do have an intolerance toward people who do not understand and respect that when they are told no thank you i am not interested or i would rather not have you discuss that with me they keep doing it anyway. and youre willing to be in the wrong to direct that anger at me that means youre the one with the problem. who says i am in the wrong budd you! ha!!! ye shall not judge unless willing to be judged. budd you are the wrong person to be making judgements on anyone. you may proclaim to be following the word of the lord buy you are absolutely hypocritical. you dont not teach the good word you ram it on people. i am not christian never have been never will but unlike you want to make everyone sound i am not a bigoted heathen destine to burn in hell just because you say so and because i make an ass out of myself like you every time i open my mouth about religion. as for the rest . . . .whatever. exactly whatever. we most be back in 1st grade now.. typical you ignore most everything and read into what is left. if only you would treat what is typed to you in heere like you claim you do the bible and not inturrept it but instead read it as it appears on your screen. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran

dont look now tom but the lot of you are in gods hands. youve always been in them. some places in this thread have taken on a tone more like a discussion than the usual argumentation. i have no problem there. i have better things to do means just that. i am not going to spend as much time with those that just want to puff up their egos by calling names and such. budd dont look now budd.... but about an hour before this last post you said something like as far as im concerned the lot of you are in gods hands to do with as he pleases. i am done arguing with any of you. ive got better things to do. what happened -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

there are others which you convieniently miss like the posting of the wiring diagram for the guy with the older truck but admit the truth you and the others have kept this going every bit as much as i have. id rather do the non-religious answers to questions post but as long as you whine about any religious content if you did not interject relgious content into your posts there would be no discussion about it. ill add it if i choose to. thats fine. bearing in mind that everyone has the same right to add what they wish. so no matter what i say be it a praise the lord if something great happens or anything religious youre gonna be there to monitor and correct me not in the least. just pointing out that you dont have exclusive rights to expound on your beliefs. i never said i did roy. but i did say i would express mine if i felt i needed to. im going to reply to it. get the picture if you initiate it you will undoubtedly read more of the same. its funny how in this thread nosey admitted to having started the religious content apologized for it i accepted his apology and you clowns still continue to blame me for the content. it has gone well beyond the point of assigning blame. get past it will ya. no it hasnt. admit you are continuing the diatribe simply because you think im to blame even when im not. no im telling you that it dosnt matter at this point who is to blame. is that so hard to understand no its not hard to understand but from my point of view it doesnt apply. you screwed up and wont admit it. thats really bigoted on youyr part blaming an innocent for something . . .but typical anymore. back to the bigot again. and once again the victim. it matters not because i practice buddism. you are bashing me you biggoted old fart now knock it off before the ymca acluboa and the rest of them come after you. whos the bigot roy me who did not bring religion into this thread or you for continuing to blame me in spite of evidence to the contrary yup you are the bigot and you use a double standard along with it. dont get me wrong i fully understand it. another facet of buddism. no roy the bigot is you since you will not accept you screwed up royally. what i see is a post by ken with a link in it. the link didnt seem to have religious content. wait a second im doing buddism i dont have to explain a thing. you are wrong. you really dont get it do ya. with all this time ive had i read a whole bunch of your stuff going back a year or so ago. your really easy. so thats why i decided to as i said emulate your behavior with buddism thus you can get a taste of what you present to the rest of us. yup i noticed a whole flurry of new posts that dont contain a thing about religion. but ya know what you have done the exact same thing before to substantiate your position. we will see how long this normalcy lasts. hopefully forever. let me guess you never bothered to read any posts back then that didnt contain a religious comment...itd be hard to support your bias if you were honest wouldnt it read what i wrote. i said there was a flurry of posts without religious content. both now and in the past. it is your pattern hopefully it is broken. a flurry of posts what the heck is that supposed to mean a bunch of posts in sucsession. some posts have religious content some dont. so youre saying i have to do one or the other ok ill start adding religious content to all my posts . . . . . or would you rather to have flurries occasionally do you get the picture obviously you dont and dont want to. that is very sad. thats thing idiot with buddism i dont have to see a damn thing im the one thats right and you will always be wrong. know why because i practice buddism. now chuckie do you get the whole picture i knew ya would cause you showed me how to play buddism!! and this alone demonstrates the true nature of your posts pure hatred. so in practicing buddism i practice hatred. im doing exactly what you have been and continue to do with everybody here. call it whatever you want. are you starting to get it yet nope and neither are you getting it. god knows exactly what you and i are doing . . .and im not worried about it. see we are doing the same thing. i am doing buddism surly you recognize it. no youre not doing what im doing . . .if you were youd be in church nearly every sunday. ah but doing buddism i am doing as you do here. you dont have a clue where i am on sunday. or saturday for that matter. www.lasalette-shrine.org/ 1 mile from home. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .