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From : roy

Q: i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com roy -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

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From : mac davis

on mon 25 sep 2006 105805 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote my comfort zone does not include weather under 40 degrees... *g* im trying to get out of here but i cant advance the calender. gotta be careful this is off topic.g roy well were taking the ram when we move to mexico but selling the dakota because we like it too much to tear it up on dirt roads... is that better mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

youre kidding tell me they are not giving drivers licenses to idiots like this in ohio. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on mon 25 sep 2006 160548 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote we gotta get this out of this thread it is a pia to find with all the other bs. see if you guys would knock off all the ot crap this wouldnt be a problem! ^ thats a joke yall... cmon laugh a little dont be mad at me! beekeep started this thread.g roy i get blamed for everything around here. so youre the one that stole reds machine.... oh bullshit!! mac had the machine and was supposed to give it to red a couple of years ago when he went north to visit a son. the machine never got there. at the time mac was headed north there were a bunch of reports of a pick up with a plow running west on the interstate. seems the driver was this pink freak with big ass floppy ears. any idea who that might have been bfg i wouldnt have been me. i would never run my truck down the interstate with the blade on. seriously last spring we had a truck towed in at work with the engine so hot the plug wires melted. the guy was driving down the interstate with a western blade on and never looked at this temp guage. must have no hearing either for not hearing the chime when the temp guage went up either. he was just mad as hell that he couldnt keep up with traffic on i-75 with the blade on. he wanted us to be sure to put a motor in the ran right this time. denny -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

on mon 25 sep 2006 160548 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote we gotta get this out of this thread it is a pia to find with all the other bs. see if you guys would knock off all the ot crap this wouldnt be a problem! ^ thats a joke yall... cmon laugh a little dont be mad at me! beekeep started this thread.g roy i get blamed for everything around here. so youre the one that stole reds machine.... oh bullshit!! mac had the machine and was supposed to give it to red a couple of years ago when he went north to visit a son. the machine never got there. at the time mac was headed north there were a bunch of reports of a pick up with a plow running west on the interstate. seems the driver was this pink freak with big ass floppy ears. any idea who that might have been bfg roy denny .

From : azwiley1

is that how you see it i read a scripture i understand what each word means as it is written i combine them to get a complete meaning for the verse and that is what i believe. lets take a look at one verse john 316 for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth on him should not perish but have everlasting life. in my understanding of it god loves us the world all so much he offered gave for a sacrifice his only son child so that anyone whosoever believes accepts with their heart mind and soul on him jesus the son would not perish die eternally in hell but would live forever eternal life. how is that interpreting -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote heres an example from my experiences of a misinterpretation of scripture problem is budd that you are interpreting the bible as you see it and claiming your views to be the only correct ones. you are saying everyone else who interprets it differently than yourself is misinterpreting it and is therefore wrong in their beliefs. the problem is that they say the same thing about your misinterpretations and give their proof from the bible just as you do. people are individuals and their thought process from the same inputs differ widely. your views are your interpretations whether you realize that or not. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

bruce br@spambegon.com wrote ive set up about 5 axles a mix of ford 9 and d44 and have the equipment experience and success rate ;^ the issue is i always have done a complete gear swap. i only plan to replace the bearings on my 98 since the r&p look fine and i caught the bearings early beginning of some fretting on the carrier and pinion bearings. since i am keeping the r&p is it possible to use the same pinion depth shims for the new bearings ill replace the shims just use the same pack thickness my reason for asking is that it usually is impossible to remove the new bearing once installed without destroying it should i need to adjust the shim pack further. i suppose i can measure the critical dimensions on the old pinion with the old bearing and make any adjustments for the new bearing being different but since the old bearing is worn i might not get a good reading. alternatively i could hone the new bearing or pinion so that i get a fit that is easier to remove but that is a pain... any ideas thanks -bruce the manufacturing tolerances of the pinion bearings are way tighter than the choices you have for pinion depth shims iows the bearings are made closer to size than you can account for with a .001 pinion shim. replace the bearings and use the shim thats in there now. you could hone out a new rear bearing to use to check pinion depth but i wouldnt install it permanently youd risk it spinning on the pinion gear and causing unwanted damage. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

ive set up about 5 axles a mix of ford 9 and d44 and have the equipment experience and success rate ;^ the issue is i always have done a complete gear swap. i only plan to replace the bearings on my 98 since the r&p look fine and i caught the bearings early beginning of some fretting on the carrier and pinion bearings. since i am keeping the r&p is it possible to use the same pinion depth shims for the new bearings ill replace the shims just use the same pack thickness my reason for asking is that it usually is impossible to remove the new bearing once installed without destroying it should i need to adjust the shim pack further. i suppose i can measure the critical dimensions on the old pinion with the old bearing and make any adjustments for the new bearing being different but since the old bearing is worn i might not get a good reading. alternatively i could hone the new bearing or pinion so that i get a fit that is easier to remove but that is a pain... any ideas thanks -bruce bruce the 9.25 adjusts a lot like an 8.75 mopar. if youre using the same gears but all new bearings you will need to at least check the pinion depth as the new bearings can be off a few thousandths then adjust if needed. then set your lash and depth according to specs. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

i think that it is but not positive roy. i read about the new dc and the new ford diesels a while back and cant remember for sure age. as i recall the new ford is a 6.4l and the new dc is a 6.7l cummins with a new auto tranny that is a six speed yes the new ford is also a navistar. while much has been written about it with all kinds of glowing reviews the same was said/written about the 6.0l when it first landed too. time will tell. as for the dodge currently only the chassis cabs are available with the 6.7l engine a bored and stroked 5.9l and they are optioned with an aisin 6speed transmission. starting in january as a mid-model-year change the regular 2500/3500 pickups will come with the 6.7l as well and will be optioned with the dc 68rfe - an in-house-designed 6-speed auto similar in design to the 545rfe ie. drive clutches and holding clutches instead of bands like the 4xres and full electronic shifting. one of the truck rags recently reported on the upcoming availability of the new aisin 68re transmission. thats wrong. theyre two distinctly separate transmissions. .

From : Annonymous

on mon 25 sep 2006 152753 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 25 sep 2006 080824 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on sun 24 sep 2006 224812 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote thank you ken and for the record though i may reside in az currently i was born and raised in ny so i am far from a redneck. i just happen to watch and enjoy good comedy. me too where where born buffalo. where live sierra vista. i was born in troy small ng err world. i mght be moving back to the area if this job comes through. a gs-09 position at the army medical center west point. it would be nice as i would be only a few hours instead of days away from my son. i havent been back in 30 years. cold enough here in ma. cant wait to get to fl. i used to go back every year at christmas umm is that a religious statement to see my son and for the most part hated the weather. being in az and hi spoiled me. though it does get cold here in the winter we dont get 84 of snow in 36 hours! there they spread it out over a couple of days but they get a bunch. though for the money that job will pay i can learn to deal with the cold and snow again. ill just have to trade the chevy in for a f-250 superduty! a close friend has a f-350 s/d diesel and is none to happy with it. kicking himself for not staying with a cummins.ymmv. i have seen and heard a lot of both good and bad with the fords. biggest thing i like is the room in them. having crawled around in all three manufactures 250/2500 series trucks the ford imo has the most room. this is something i want for comfort if i were to be driving from west point to buffalo a lot. ive made a couple of trips to fl in the 05 qc with the wife and a 85 pound dog and there was plenty of room. gotta go with what ya like though it is your ass that has to be happy. i wonder if i should get heated leather seats mike! vbg not sure when your looking to buy but the 08 ford i think it starts selling this january has a new engine. the current 6l has been really problamatic. if you can you might want to wait until the new one comes out. i have a bunch of friends with the 6l ford diesel. no one that i know would buy another but they love the rest of the truck. everythng that i have heard about this new engine has been good. ill have to look into it. have not heard they were changing motor as i understand it both dodge and ford have to in order to meet the new emission requirments as of january 1 2007. over at tdr a lot of people are talking about buying a dodge now before jan. even though the cummins will be bigger there is a concern about the complexity of the emission control crap. i thought my 05 with the cat met the 07 stuff. might be wrong though. roy well what they are saying over at tdr is that jan. 1 07 diesel trucks have to meet essentially the same emiision requirments that cars do there were new requirments as os jan. 1 05 and i have heard even newer ones as of jan. 1 07. maybe mike can chime in with some facts rather than my rumors here is a couple of stories about it fwiw http//media.ford.com/room/releasedisplay.cfmrelease=24088 http//www.worldcarfans.com/.cfm/country/acf/id/2060824.004/ford/new-6.4-liter-powerstroke-diesel-engine-for-ford-f-series http//www.turbodieselregister.com/07pressrelease/dodge1pr.pdf#search=%22new%20dodge%20%20diesel%20engines%22 .

From : tom lawrence

on mon 25 sep 2006 181012 gmt craig c. mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote azwiley1 wrote hey craig hey! if this is what you want as opposed to what the group feels what the group feels sounds kinda liberal to me. silly me i thought we would talk about trucks. why do you do us alla favor and start your own moderated alt. autos.dodge.trucks group and then you can have all the only on topic conversations you want. too bad they will only be with yourself. i dont want to be the moderator of a group otherwise i would have already looked into it. as i have stated to roy and others and now you ... this ng has been the source of very good information in the past. i hate to see it go down the toilet despite roys assertion that it has always been in the toilet. sad thing you dont want to realize is that no one honestly cares that you think the topc should only be about what you want. and thats okay. truth is i couldnt care less about the wants of most of the people here either. there are a few people here that i have a great deal of respect for. none of what you say changes the forum established to talk about whatever comes to your mind. the majority of us have been in this group on average twice as long as you and have seen this net nanny crap come and go oddly enough the part that has gone is the person acting the way you are. im not acting. just stating a fact which seems to evade your fragile mind. talk about your true colors your term not mine when you turned your attack on tom l.. i guess being here twice as long gives you the all clear to be an asshole. right btw kf me if you like wont hurt my feelings none. hell even theguy hasnt done that to me. bg my stating that i hoped that i didnt have to killfile you was not a threat. rather a sincere plea to you that you stop your ramblings about what a great war monger you are. as you say nobody cares. as with roy i dont have anything left to say about this with you either. have a good one. craig c. craig if you will allow let me offer an explaination. the people come and go but those who stay do so because of the wide variety of discussions that take place here. oh there are some that get uspset by that and they generally move on at some point. but most people that come through and stay do so because they find that they enjoy the varied posts. the true beauty of this place is that you can say or post and argue about just about anything that you like. budd included. in the end budd is right that he can post about whatever he likes. some people take that too far and the group generally polices itself when that happens. as for budd most people would probably ignore him and his religious posts and let him be. what is different about budd is that he has been around for a long time and several people really enjoyed his perpective and his experience. now a lot ofthose people are concerned that something may be very wrong with him and try to talk to him about it but budd isnt very good at listening any more. again in the end he has the same right as anyone else including you to talk about what he wants to and to be who he wants to be. i know that sounds wrong coming from me and i admit that i let him get under my skin some times. anyway this group really rallies against censorship even those that are net enemies and that is another of the really good things about this group. maybe we should call this group allt.autos.dodge.trucks.andeverythingelseofinterest would that be better .

From : roy

on mon 25 sep 2006 103205 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote roy wrote you could go to the tdr it is closely moderated. ill check it out. thanks for the suggestion. most of which was dodge trucks or at least automobile related. go figure. ive not seen it get this bad/off topic in the 4+ years i have subscribed. then you havent been following closely. - my reading habits havent changed. i suppose we willl have to simply disagree on this point. first if you noticed there was a ot in the subject. did that tell ya something why did i post it first because i thought it was a bit intersting. remember we all are not bush fans. i know. weve had the discussion in this ng about 5 million times. so one more wont hurt will it. sencondly it was fri afternoon and the weekend is usually slow and it would give people something to do. what a guy! helping others with their weekend plans. im a wonderful guy. but not theguy lol. just keeping it honest note the number of posts to the thread. note also that you wander by after the thread is over 48 hours old with your undies in a knot. oh the last reason i posted it because i fucking wanted to and i can!! were you stomping your feet when you typed that i have a nine year old step daughter uses that line minus the word fucking of course. please..... nice that your step daughter listens to you as well. it is nice that you are so concerned over the people in the thread watch how quickly they put it behind them and move on. probably to this post so they can tell you how much they want a person telling them what the can and cant post. ive not told anyone what they can or cannot post. i have however attempted to reason with people budd and now you budd 2.0 that there are hundreds of groups that cover the entire spectrum of topics. you really havent caught on yet have ya the groups are named so that we will know what the topic of that group at least the majority topic should be. its called common sense not moderation. really then why dont you post something dodge truck related lets see if ya can. interesting that you chose not to respond to the questions that were at the end of this post. too logical im guessing. i didnt see the need when a person compares a ng to church. i wasnt comparing. rather i was making an observation which you clearly missed not in the least that is why i ignored it. that when attending church one expects to discuss god/doctrine. when one attends a political rally the topic is politics. i didnt think you would be this slow anything one wants to post. roy craig c. .

From : mac davis

roy wrote you could go to the tdr it is closely moderated. ill check it out. thanks for the suggestion. most of which was dodge trucks or at least automobile related. go figure. ive not seen it get this bad/off topic in the 4+ years i have subscribed. then you havent been following closely. - my reading habits havent changed. i suppose we willl have to simply disagree on this point. first if you noticed there was a ot in the subject. did that tell ya something why did i post it first because i thought it was a bit intersting. remember we all are not bush fans. i know. weve had the discussion in this ng about 5 million times. so one more wont hurt will it. sencondly it was fri afternoon and the weekend is usually slow and it would give people something to do. what a guy! helping others with their weekend plans. im a wonderful guy. but not theguy note the number of posts to the thread. note also that you wander by after the thread is over 48 hours old with your undies in a knot. oh the last reason i posted it because i fucking wanted to and i can!! were you stomping your feet when you typed that i have a nine year old step daughter uses that line minus the word fucking of course. please..... nice that your step daughter listens to you as well. it is nice that you are so concerned over the people in the thread watch how quickly they put it behind them and move on. probably to this post so they can tell you how much they want a person telling them what the can and cant post. ive not told anyone what they can or cannot post. i have however attempted to reason with people budd and now you budd 2.0 that there are hundreds of groups that cover the entire spectrum of topics. you really havent caught on yet have ya the groups are named so that we will know what the topic of that group at least the majority topic should be. its called common sense not moderation. really then why dont you post something dodge truck related lets see if ya can. interesting that you chose not to respond to the questions that were at the end of this post. too logical im guessing. i didnt see the need when a person compares a ng to church. i wasnt comparing. rather i was making an observation which you clearly missed not in the least that is why i ignored it. that when attending church one expects to discuss god/doctrine. when one attends a political rally the topic is politics. i didnt think you would be this slow anything one wants to post. roy craig c. .

From : craig c

well since i am a feebleminded asshole according to craig c. and as it appears that he is the new self-appointed moderator and net nanny of aadt i guess there are no more post allowed in the group an un-moderated one at that unless it pertains specifically to dodge trucks. man what a boring group this will become. nice talking with you all. ^ yup with craig as our new net nanny this will im sure be a lively group. i mean he brings so much to it. what is amazing is he feels by being done with us that is you larry and me we will be missing something. ohwell. .

From : roy

roy wrote the doc isnt really sure. i was pulling on something in workfortunatly and got a sharp pain and lost some motion. could be a bad strain or a rotator cuff tear. right now 10 days out it is sore. ive been going to pt to see how it plays out. doc wants me to do about 3weeks of it then decide if some sort of dye and a scan is needed. xrays shoued nothing. my left one is screwed up. after 8 surgeries im still in a lot of pain and its still messed up. if you can avoid it dont let them cut on you. im with you on this. shoulders seem to be a hit or miss at best. they messed mine up each time they went in there. each time they promised they would fix it. i even had the sugeon that does the dallas cowboys players work on mine. didnt work. i was forced into disability retirement because of it. im 7 months from retirement and i want both wings fully functioning . i already have enough aches and pains. roy bob i hurt mine at work also. the only reason i had them continue to work on it other than they said it would be fixed each time was because it was my only hope to get back to work doing what i was doing. i still miss my job and have struggled ever since to make ends meet. i even lost my 01 ram 1500 over it. but thats another story. sorry to hear that bob. my situation is a bit different. working for the railroad comes under a bunch of fed employee protections. roy bob .

From : azwiley1

beekeep wrote on sun 24 sep 2006 105708 -0500 bob m ram1220@vzavenue.net wrote roy wrote id like to go to the range but it is my right shoulder that is screwed up. i was think leaving the ar home and taking the sigs but the recoil.. id like to get out of this without any surgery. so no playing yet. roy roy sorry for jumping in but i didnt want to start a new thread for this. whats up with your shoulder my left one is screwed up. after 8 surgeries im still in a lot of pain and its still messed up. if you can avoid it dont let them cut on you. they messed mine up each time they went in there. each time they promised they would fix it. i even had the sugeon that does the dallas cowboys players work on mine. didnt work. i was forced into disability retirement because of it. bob all he needs is about 3 bee stings to the shoulder and hell be good for a year. beekeep yeah i sting mine. ive heard about that. does it really work dont get him startedg roy bob .

From : craig c

beekeep wrote on sun 24 sep 2006 105708 -0500 bob m ram1220@vzavenue.net wrote roy wrote id like to go to the range but it is my right shoulder that is screwed up. i was think leaving the ar home and taking the sigs but the recoil.. id like to get out of this without any surgery. so no playing yet. roy roy sorry for jumping in but i didnt want to start a new thread for this. whats up with your shoulder my left one is screwed up. after 8 surgeries im still in a lot of pain and its still messed up. if you can avoid it dont let them cut on you. they messed mine up each time they went in there. each time they promised they would fix it. i even had the sugeon that does the dallas cowboys players work on mine. didnt work. i was forced into disability retirement because of it. bob all he needs is about 3 bee stings to the shoulder and hell be good for a year. beekeep yeah i sting mine. ive heard about that. does it really work bob .

From : roy

on mon 25 sep 2006 000025 -0400 sqdancerlynn sqdancerlynn1@verizon.net wrote the broken clip was locking tab from the brg pre load adjuster. did you check the back lash how much back lash did you have i just won a dial indicator on ebay i will hopefully have it on wednesday. i will find out and let you know what is the backlash. i .

From : roy

roy wrote your kidding right no. i started a bio-diesel thread last week which pertains to dodge trucks. i wont start another thread in this ng until i have something to say about a subject pertaining to dodge trucks. following that a step further we should noy expect to see you participate in a thread that isnt about dodge trucks. or is it okay for you to participate as long as you dont start it. time for you to sharpen your net nanny skills here craig. you seem to want it both ways. actually what i want read this with your good eye is for the *majority* of the topics discussed to be about dodge trucks. im not asking for much. here we go now it is name calling. ya really think my nuts a numb i know one person you could ask. figure it out. this one is too easy ... gee a grammar lesson coupled with a insult. how clever are you a teacher by chance nope. guess again. if youd like to know what my profession is email me and we can discuss it since it doesnt belong on a dodge truck ng. okay budd. if that is suposed to be upsetting dont flater youeself. although i dont agree with his latest round of stuff he has more smarts and experience than you will ever attain. - that would be impossible for you who knows so little of me to measure. his topics are unwelcome by some at least and misplaced as are yours. you were vastly irritated with his religious postings and you told him so as did i. it seems that you want to talk about what you want to talk about regardless of how inappropriate it is ... but you dont want him too. pkb. regardless i have reached the end of my reasoning rope with you. craig c. .

From : craig c

roy wrote i know. weve had the discussion in this ng about 5 million times. so one more wont hurt will it. wont help either. that is you opinion. were you stomping your feet when you typed that i have a nine year old step daughter uses that line minus the word fucking of course. please..... nice that your step daughter listens to you as well. i expect a nine year old to have limited common sense and throw temper tantrums. a grown man perhaps i expect too much from you. your kidding right ive not told anyone what they can or cannot post. i have however attempted to reason with people budd and now you budd 2.0 that there are hundreds of groups that cover the entire spectrum of topics. you really havent caught on yet have ya hanging me up. really then why dont you post something dodge truck related lets see if ya can. i started a bio-diesel thread last week which pertains to dodge trucks. i wont start another thread in this ng until i have something to say about a subject pertaining to dodge trucks. following that a step further we should noy expect to see you participate in a thread that isnt about dodge trucks. or is it okay for you to participate as long as you dont start it. time for you to sharpen your net nanny skills here craig. you seem to want it both ways. here we go now it is name calling. ya really think my nuts a numb i know one person you could ask. figure it out. i wasnt comparing. rather i was making an observation which you clearly missed not in the least that is why i ignored it. ignore is the root for ignorance gee a grammar lesson coupled with a insult. how clever are you a teacher by chance ... which for you is glaring. i didnt think you would be this slow anything one wants to post. okay budd. if that is suposed to be upsetting dont flater youeself. although i dont agree with his latest round of stuff he has more smarts and experience than you will ever attain. roy craig c. .

From : roy

on sun 24 sep 2006 172326 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote budd cochran wrote unfortunately miles too many dont hold themselves accountable let alone follow any other moral values. who decides what is moral or not for me i decide for myself. somethings i believe in say or do maybe immoral to you and vis-versa. right on... thats the problem that ive always had with censorship... who decides whats good or bad for us i think adults practice self censorship.. if it offends you dont look/complain/etc.... if for example nobody wanted to see x rated movies there wouldnt be any profit in them and theyd cease to exist.. self censorship bro your always right on the money first thing in the mornig. well said!! roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

mac davis wrote craig... i dont know what reader youre using but i highly recommend agent... a feature that i like is the ignore thread... for when i want to drop the by and get to the real stuff... much better than a kill file imo.. i have recently switched to xana. after reading your post here about agent i looked and i do not have an ignore thread option. i do however have an ignore branch option. ill give it a shot. if that doesnt work ill take a look at agent. now your catching on. agent is a real good reader a number of folks here use it. roy thanks craig c. .

From : mac davis

on sun 24 sep 2006 224812 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote thank you ken and for the record though i may reside in az currently i was born and raised in ny so i am far from a redneck. i just happen to watch and enjoy good comedy. me too where where born buffalo. where live sierra vista. i was born in troy small ng err world. i mght be moving back to the area if this job comes through. a gs-09 position at the army medical center west point. it would be nice as i would be only a few hours instead of days away from my son. i havent been back in 30 years. cold enough here in ma. cant wait to get to fl. i used to go back every year at christmas umm is that a religious statement to see my son and for the most part hated the weather. being in az and hi spoiled me. though it does get cold here in the winter we dont get 84 of snow in 36 hours! there they spread it out over a couple of days but they get a bunch. though for the money that job will pay i can learn to deal with the cold and snow again. ill just have to trade the chevy in for a f-250 superduty! a close friend has a f-350 s/d diesel and is none to happy with it. kicking himself for not staying with a cummins.ymmv. i have seen and heard a lot of both good and bad with the fords. biggest thing i like is the room in them. having crawled around in all three manufactures 250/2500 series trucks the ford imo has the most room. this is something i want for comfort if i were to be driving from west point to buffalo a lot. ive made a couple of trips to fl in the 05 qc with the wife and a 85 pound dog and there was plenty of room. gotta go with what ya like though it is your ass that has to be happy. i wonder if i should get heated leather seats mike! vbg not sure when your looking to buy but the 08 ford i think it starts selling this january has a new engine. the current 6l has been really problamatic. if you can you might want to wait until the new one comes out. i have a bunch of friends with the 6l ford diesel. no one that i know would buy another but they love the rest of the truck. everythng that i have heard about this new engine has been good. .

From : mac davis

on sun 24 sep 2006 145240 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ww-ii allies did not have the accuracy available to them as we have today. can you imagine how hitler would have felt if he knew a b-17 at 30000 feet could drop one bomb in a rain barrel outside his home day or night the vengeance weapons v-1 and v-2 were mostly effective as terror weapons only . . .you didnt know where they would hit even if you were the one pushing the launch button and the bombing systems of the germans were less accurate than the norden bombsight at its worst. what is the price of peace money cant buy it...look at feudalism. only blood of patriots can buy peace. or the blood of civilians as both sides in wwii proved.... war is a great form of population control... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : craig c

on mon 25 sep 2006 140814 gmt craig c. mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote i wasnt comparing. rather i was making an observation which you clearly missed that when attending church one expects to discuss god/doctrine. when one attends a political rally the topic is politics. craig c. craig... i dont know what reader youre using but i highly recommend agent... a feature that i like is the ignore thread... for when i want to drop the by and get to the real stuff... much better than a kill file imo.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

kenseth pushed his luck like he did at the earlier dover race but it did not play out this time. at lest gordon and johnson arent in victory lane! at 80 laps kenseth crew told him fuel wasnt a issue. he shoulda pited earlier anyway. gordon and johnson do seem to be on their ass a bit. like him or hate gordon does drive his ass off. cnat stand him or the hendricks motorsports crew. i am a dei and rcr fan thru and thru! though there are a few drivers from other teams that i like and follow. me either but ya cant take it away from him as a driver. ive followed kenseth for years back to a arca race i think. like his style most of the time you dont know hes on the track. roy ill agree with you but only to a point. i dont think that he would have the career and the sucess he has now if he had started with a different team. not saying that he would have been a failure or anything. hendrick sure gives him the equipment to do it. yup sure does. wait should i have disgreed with you bg not until later in the week.g have you taken a look at the seattle ny murder seattle has them down about 30 nothing at the 1/2. nah wife is watching the az/stl game as she likes stl as a whole and kurt warner from az. how bout those bengals.... ole roy is gonna be dreaden next week when his pats get another loss... well see who jumps on whose wagon.... denny hate to say it i think the pats are going to win but we shall see. another non-believers gonna get an education..... gentlmen im gonna put my young slender ass on the couch and watch the pats dole out some revenge. try to play nice.vbg for once im gonna be nice. good luck... they were horrible!! sorta like the red sox with pads. they lost too many key players brady is like hes sleepwalking. roy denny .

From : craig c

d murphy wrote dont you have a set of pin punches therell be one in there that fits just right. geez he didnt tell me he had pictures. seems he lost the lock on the left adjuster. it would seem that this adjuster worked its way loose and the carrier is floating to the left under load. it doesnt look like he has too much wear on the ring gear. at this point i would tighten *only* the left adjuster to get proper load on the bearings. he shouldnt need to set the rear up if he didnt screw with the right adjuster. the noise will disappear once the bearings are properly loaded. if he still has noise after this it would be best to go down to the bone yard and get a low mileage rear for about $75. rita .

From : azwiley1

budd cochran wrote ill probably say darn. but if im right what will others be saying hmmmm same thing. you may end up in hell as well if your beliefs are way off course. .

From : craig c

roy wrote craig if you dont like what is posted here you have a option. simply put go elsewhere. thanks for the insight roy. where ever shall i go i know ... ill go to alt.religion.baptist. i wonder if theyre talking about trucks you could go to the tdr it is closely moderated. this group has for years talked about and posted anything they wanted to. most of which was dodge trucks or at least automobile related. go figure. ive not seen it get this bad/off topic in the 4+ years i have subscribed. then you havent been following closely. you are not the first to become upset about it. im not upset. a bit confused how the war in iraq which *you* started has anything to do with the topic of this ng. and ... a bit confused why you would post something that you know would cause tempers to explode. first if you noticed there was a ot in the subject. did that tell ya something heres a hint it wasnt going to be on topic which is dodge trucks that is where if you are so interested about dodge trucks ya hit the friggin delete key. why did i post it first because i thought it was a bit intersting. remember we all are not bush fans. sencondly it was fri afternoon and the weekend is usually slow and it would give people something to do. note the number of posts to the thread. note also that you wander by after the thread is over 48 hours old with your undies in a knot. oh the last reason i posted it because i fucking wanted to and i can!! what is most concerning is watching people who once exchanged friendly communication start jabbing at each other over topics that they probably didnt want to discuss in the first place. it is nice that you are so concerned over the people in the thread watch how quickly they put it behind them and move on. probably to this post so they can tell you how much they want a person telling them what the can and cant post. dont mean to sound harsh but ya either go along and get along or ya dont. is that what you call whats been happening here lately go along and get along it seems to work. cuts down on net nannys oh one thing ya dont do is fuck with the rabbit!g i do that!vbg i dont know denny ... although i have noted that he is the object of rabbit jokes from time to time. if denny chooses to address me about something i will likely answer him. i will however leave the tired rabbit jokes to you. - there ya go! and ill leave the wanna be moderator to you! interesting that you chose not to respond to the questions that were at the end of this post. too logical im guessing. i didnt see the need when a person compares a ng to church. roy craig c. .

From : roy

this site has helped me find used parts as i have needed to. www.car-parts.com iggy before you get too deep in this thing take five minutes to do a local search on car-part.com for another used axle in your area. i did that with 2.3l ford engine and managed to find an engine with only 30k on it for less than id already spent on diagnostics. before you get too far into this take a quick check to see if there is a cheap replacement around it may mean you could then rebuild this one or not at your leisure... --glenn lyford .

From : craig c

iggy before you get too deep in this thing take five minutes to do a local search on car-part.com for another used axle in your area. i did that with 2.3l ford engine and managed to find an engine with only 30k on it for less than id already spent on diagnostics. before you get too far into this take a quick check to see if there is a cheap replacement around it may mean you could then rebuild this one or not at your leisure... --glenn lyford .

From : denny

theguy@whatever.net wrote on sat 23 sep 2006 214409 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on sat 23 sep 2006 194951 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote our old buddy is getting beat upon over in the 4x4 chevy group. better them than us....... is that tears i hear dripping on the ground vbg denny you guys must have a really boring life knock yourself out. btw nobody is beating me up like you say there is just a few children like yourself that are insecure but several posters email me direct to get past your bs and others so have fun if it makes you happy as you are not bothering me at all.. ----------------- thesnoman.com no one emails you for information. you are so full of shit. you live in a dream world ass clown. i went to his website once. there were so many spelling errors i gave up on it. bob speaking of his site...... ive noticed just about every reference he sites is his own website. am i the only one whos noticed this -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : azwiley1

tony al2001block@optonline.net wrote in having rebuilt a few 9.25 mopar rears including machining custom axle shafts installing limited slips and such the screwdriver method works fine. as a matter of fact thats why the factory places the adjustment holes in the side adjusters. its not practical to buy every tool the service manual recommends. the only tools you really need are a dial indicator and a good mechanical sense screwdriver feh. dont you have a set of pin punches therell be one in there that fits just right. -- dan scopulus est usquequaque nefas .

From : craig c

sorry all i did not mean to go off topic in a thread that is marked ot in the subject line. i guess it all must stop now as the self appointed group moderator has spoke again. azwiley1 wrote but yet its all ok as long as it comes from some in here but not others. i dont agree with all the postings made by budd about the religious stuff but i also dont agree with the way everyone here has jumped on him and jump on others as they see fit just because. heres an idea afterall. just a suggestion ... craig c. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

hi roy ive been on google looking but cant find anything about the rear door of a quad cab not opening. ive also looked through a truck manual my husband has. it discusses the front door. and since the lock mechanism is mounted on the underside of the rear door it really doesnt help. i cant find info about our rear door problem. ill keep looking through google though. if you find anything please let me know.thanks for the info. .

From : tom lawrence

there is nothing the matter with the cable it works fine. the problem is in the latch mechanism unit that is mounted to the underside of the door. the claw thats what i call it wont disengage. the rod that goes down to the lever arm and the lever arm itself all seem to be working properly. it seems to be the latch mechanism unit which is mounted to the underside of the rear door. he cant figure out how to open the door to get to mechanism unit to repair or fix it. any suggestions .

From : Annonymous

if i am stopped brake applied and release the brake yes the truck will move. if i let the truck creep long enough there is not jerk. yes the very slow throttle will lessen the jerk and sometimes make it go away. okay - next question. does it do it in reverse as well what about it you start out in manual 1 - will it jerk then .

From : azwiley1

ignoramus1162 wrote i pulled the axle and installed a new torrington bearing and a new axle seal. im inclined to agree with anthony that its a pinion bearing. chrysler products are notorious for this problem. thats why anyone that is using their truck for serious work has a ford rear installed. the dodge rears arent up to the task. rita .

From : roy

kenseth pushed his luck like he did at the earlier dover race but it did not play out this time. at lest gordon and johnson arent in victory lane! at 80 laps kenseth crew told him fuel wasnt a issue. he shoulda pited earlier anyway. gordon and johnson do seem to be on their ass a bit. like him or hate gordon does drive his ass off. cnat stand him or the hendricks motorsports crew. i am a dei and rcr fan thru and thru! though there are a few drivers from other teams that i like and follow. me either but ya cant take it away from him as a driver. ive followed kenseth for years back to a arca race i think. like his style most of the time you dont know hes on the track. roy .

From : roy

kenseth pushed his luck like he did at the earlier dover race but it did not play out this time. at lest gordon and johnson arent in victory lane! sorry to see harvick drop out at the end today but damn good run for burton. about time he made it back to victory lane. it was nice to see burton win hes always a class driver. too bad he took it from kenseth though he ran out of gas anyway. roy .

From : azwiley1

no roy the situation with budd has nothing to do with it. my point i thought should have been easy to follow. i disagreed with some one based off my knowledge and expertise on a subject a subject i have been involved with since 91 and as usual the derogatory insults and comments start not a rebuttal from the person i disagreed with with factual information. i then stood up for myself. understood. but yet its all ok as long as it comes from some in here but not others. i dont agree with all the postings made by budd about the religious stuff but i also dont agree with the way everyone here has jumped on him and jump on others as they see fit just because. i think history may have a bunch to do with it. is what it is i guess. roy come on tom lets hear from you the same thing that you got on budd about to me now. i guess you are starting to show your colors too. i suppose in your eyes its ok for anyone to start with the attacks and derogator comments to anyone that disagrees with something they say larry is the situation with budd the cause for your unusual angernot really the word im looking for roy .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

sorry to see harvick drop out at the end today but damn good run for burton. about time he made it back to victory lane. it was nice to see burton win hes always a class driver. too bad he took it from kenseth though he ran out of gas anyway. roy .

From : roy

sorry to see harvick drop out at the end today but damn good run for burton. about time he made it back to victory lane. cars placed 1st and 3rd today. nuf said. i think the lazer cut rims was just to see how gulible na$car fans are. beekeep .

From : azwiley1

i pulled the axle and installed a new torrington bearing and a new axle seal. i also put in a rare earth magnet on the bottom of the diff gear case. far from gears all of that went smoothly. despite that though the noise seems to have gotten a tad better here my senses could betray me but it did not go away and did not become qualitatively better. specifically the whining noise that happens when i let go of gas continues. i .

From : Annonymous

isnt this always the case larry liberals always say how we need to win a war but wont come forward with a plan. a plan the plan is to not start a bogus war in the first place. like trying to put the pin back into a grenade thats already exploded. .

From : tom lawrence

1. there is no bearing pre-load on the carrier bearings only the pinion bearing and we arent discussing the pinion here. 2. if iggy takes the ring bear backlash now it may be an invalid reading since the side adjusters have moved throwing the ring gear out of adjustment. techincally the backlash value is engraved on the ring gear. but for practical purposes anything from .006 to .008 should be fine. tony tony al2001block@optonline.net wrote after you clean everything out and check for damage you re-install the ring gear/carrier. youll need a dial indicator with a magnetic base or some fixture to hold the indicator against one of the teeth on the ring gear and rock the gear. tighten the side adjusters until you get around .007 backlash. .007 is fine if youre setting up a new gear set. if hes reusing the old gear set he needs to measure backlash -before- anything is disturbed or disassembled. when he reassembles and sets backlash and bearing preload he needs to set the backlash to what he measured originally. .

From : john kunkel

- is it covered by any sort of recall or advisory given that my pickup is a 1999 pickup probably not but it cant hurt to ask. heres how the dealer will look at it if youve been a good customer of the local dealer the service department might go to bat for you with the regional rep. if you did all the routine service yourself or anyplace other than the dealer this is where you get spend all the money you saved. sorry but thats how the game is played. -carl .

From : azwiley1

on sun 24 sep 2006 105839 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote no actually and it is apparent you need to learn how to read. all i did was post a statement pertaining to your comments about how we need to listen to and believe the command from over in iraq. i disagreed with you i can back up what i say though this is not the forum for it and you started with the insult and derogatory comments as usual. but i see that you like snojob and a few others dont grasp the thought that just because someone disagrees with you is not an open invitation to be a fucking idiot and start with the attacks. nuff said. lol. larry you really are stupid. on sun 24 sep 2006 095638 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote all hail theguy. though he has not stated anything other then his usual insults and derogatory comments about some one to substantiate his profuse knowledge because it might prove someone can actually know more. i concede to you vast though unsubstantiated greatness. asshole no problemo ass clown. i forgive you you dont need to sign your posts as coming from an asshole. btw the above statement would be just as accurate about everything that you wrote as about what i did. you chose the sword you just dont have the skill to use it. on sat 23 sep 2006 220919 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on sat 23 sep 2006 202234 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote hey knucklehead the retards that you say we should listen to in the command over there are nothing more then politicians in uniform. they are so far gone from knowing about real military it is not funny. at the rank they are all they care about is kissing presidential ass because they know that they only people that can hurt their career is congress and higher. they will and do say anything that is politically correct that can be said. if you dont think i am right get off your lazy ass join the military and become an intel analyst over there. i did i saw i have a better understanding and knowledge base about it then you. so you think believe and listen to who ever you want. youre done! yeah you were an enlisted non com in military intelligence so you have all the answers. tell you what genius just keep listening to cnn then and you will have the whole deal down. and just how do you know that you have a better understanding and knowledge base than i do oh yeah you just know. you got no fucking clue as to who i am and what i know braniac. so listen to cnn and read your paper every morning and you can continue to have it all figured out. hmm lets see an enlisted non com. gee last time i checked to be a non com you had to be enlisted so wouldnt your statement be a little redundant if not retarded yeah i was also in mi but unlike you fucknuts i never professed or pretend to have all the answers. apparantly you are the one that needs to continue to listen to the classifed network cnn if you aint that bright. i stopped that when i deployed all the times that i have. as to my knowledge base concerning the situation in iraq i would bet dimes to doughnuts i know more about it then you. i have been involved either physically there or in direct support of operation including some i garuntee you never heard of in ever single operation since the gulf war desert storm. wow its great to have an expert of your level in the ng then. i cant wait for your next post on the state iraq. your briefings here should be very popular. as you say you have no fucking clue as to who i am what i have done who i know or what i have done. so you listen up fuck face continue your proclaimation of great importance but this will be the last post to you from me about this. great ass clown. ill miss your tremendous expertise though and am quite sorry that i and the military command wont have the benefit of your great advise. oh and i do have a pretty good clue as to who you are. i pretty much told you last post. great another fucking moron enters the fray. yup that would be you de de de! on sat 23 sep 2006 190954 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote yeah having worked with a lot of the assholes in the command staff over there in very similar situations. hell even providing some of the information as a former intel analyst i full or is that fool heartedly listen to everything they have to say and believe it. not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your choice. listen to the politicians instead then genius. on fri 22 sep 2006 172108 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little sho

From : Annonymous

what roy said. flush it well replace the lock tab replace the axle bearing drive on. don;t make a big deal out of it. in any case if the noise continues i would not reccomend a diy repair. so bolt it back together takes 15 minutes to flush well 15 minutes to bolt the cover on if it isnt right you lost 30 minutes. the other roy roy wrote on sun 24 sep 2006 113226 gmt anthony tonytn36sp@hotmail.com wrote ignoramus937 ignoramus937@nospam.937.invalid wrote in your collective help has been invaluable to me and i cannot say enough to express my extreme gratitude to all contributors so far. personally id first check backlash record it then pull the carrier flush and check the carrier bearings based on the grit you found in the bottom of the can. its not difficult to reset the lash / bearing pre-load on this type of set-up same thing as a ford 9 as far as that goes. check your wear pattern on the ring gear and pinion. while you have the carrier out check the pinion bearings for feel and any backlash. see how much wiggle you have if any in the spiders and make sure the pins are still corretly in place. pull the axles replace both bearings. while you have it all apart clean the inside of the housing really good including the tubes. you want to get all of that grit out of there that you can before you re- install anything. all that grit sloshing around is probably what got your axle bearings. if one has failed the other is not far behind which is also why i suspect the carrier bearings are going to be damaged and probably the pinion bearings also. if the lock has broken off the possibility that the preload was lost early on is relatively high which is not a good thing. definately check for the tsbs. i would just replace all the bearings and seals while i had it apart pinion included. -- anthony you cant idiot proof anything....every time you try they just make better idiots. remove sp to reply via email if you replace the pinion bearings you will need a in/ounce torque wrench to set the preload. beekeep imo there is a bit of over reaction going on. the truck has 70k+ on it. it is not unheard of for a axle bearing to go south at that mileage. sure the lock has to be replaced but there didnt seem to be a glaring problem with the wear on the ring&pinion that i saw. some of these posts have the op about rebuilding the rear end. sorta like tearing down a engine for a broken rocker arm. then again it is not my truck. if it were id do a good visible replace the lock flush it do both axle bearings fill it run it drain it take another good look at it if okay refill and be done with it. of course thats me im not overly anal about this stuff. im aware that others are thats cool. roy .

From : mac davis

hello all does anyone have any insight as to what may have caused the odometer to stop working along with the tranny to start slipping i havent had a chance to look under the vehicle yet to see if i can see any fluid leaking. my wife said she was headed out of town when she noticed the speedometer not working and it seemed like the motor was reving a bit. the fluid looks a little brown but doesnt smell real bad. it does have approx. 105000 miles on what may be the original tranny. could this be an electronic issue back in the day i would of guessed a plugged modulator line and/or loose nut on the speedometer cable along with dripping fluid but now im stumped!! any thoughts would be great! thank you very much in advance! cb chances are its the output shaft speed sensor located on the front of the trans. denny please excuse the hijack. hey fur face!! once again heres yer chance to jump on the wagon!! 815 tonight. supposed to be severe thunderstorms before and at game time. should be a hell of a game a mud bowl. denver beat the pats the last two meetings knocking them out of the playoffs. the wagon is purty well squatted down under your girth. i think ill just stay with the bengals. go broncos!! oh check your email im not sure i used the right addy or are you using both i got it. you sure know how to treat my friends... bg denny roy .

From : azwiley1

i got a couple of stocks that i put tung oil on before you got me started on danish oil. i like the danish oil much better. can danish oil be put on over the tung oil or does the tung oil need to be removed denny .

From : Annonymous

on sun 24 sep 2006 113226 gmt anthony tonytn36sp@hotmail.com wrote ignoramus937 ignoramus937@nospam.937.invalid wrote in your collective help has been invaluable to me and i cannot say enough to express my extreme gratitude to all contributors so far. personally id first check backlash record it then pull the carrier flush and check the carrier bearings based on the grit you found in the bottom of the can. its not difficult to reset the lash / bearing pre-load on this type of set-up same thing as a ford 9 as far as that goes. check your wear pattern on the ring gear and pinion. while you have the carrier out check the pinion bearings for feel and any backlash. see how much wiggle you have if any in the spiders and make sure the pins are still corretly in place. pull the axles replace both bearings. while you have it all apart clean the inside of the housing really good including the tubes. you want to get all of that grit out of there that you can before you re- install anything. all that grit sloshing around is probably what got your axle bearings. if one has failed the other is not far behind which is also why i suspect the carrier bearings are going to be damaged and probably the pinion bearings also. if the lock has broken off the possibility that the preload was lost early on is relatively high which is not a good thing. definately check for the tsbs. i would just replace all the bearings and seals while i had it apart pinion included. -- anthony you cant idiot proof anything....every time you try they just make better idiots. remove sp to reply via email if you replace the pinion bearings you will need a in/ounce torque wrench to set the preload. beekeep imo there is a bit of over reaction going on. the truck has 70k+ on it. it is not unheard of for a axle bearing to go south at that mileage. sure the lock has to be replaced but there didnt seem to be a glaring problem with the wear on the ring&pinion that i saw. some of these posts have the op about rebuilding the rear end. sorta like tearing down a engine for a broken rocker arm. then again it is not my truck. if it were id do a good visible replace the lock flush it do both axle bearings fill it run it drain it take another good look at it if okay refill and be done with it. of course thats me im not overly anal about this stuff. im aware that others are thats cool. roy .

From : azwiley1

on sat 23 sep 2006 230336 -0500 don young notme@nonesuch.com wrote on sun 24 sep 2006 032047 gmt royj spamless@microsoft.net wrote id suggest taking a deep breath and holding it for while so you stop hyperventelating. there ok now ok. looks like the retainer lock was installed backwards just snapped off. this would give you the score mark on ring gear. neither of those items really concerns me other than ranting about nincompoops at the factory. i would be concerned if the bearing retainer had moved. if it was loose you will have trashed the bearings as well as gotten abnormal wear on the ring/pinion. since i doubt you have any warranty coverage its up to you. id clean up the whole assembly so you can see what it looks like without the oil residue. a good wear pattern is centered in the ring gear teeth. lots more info in lots of places try this for starters keep looking. http//www.ring-pinion.com/downloads/yukoninstman.pdf ok will read this. if the tooth wear looks ok finish flushing the gear case put in fresh oil keep going. perhaps drain and flush again in 30 to 60 days. if the wear pattern shows that it has shifted over time or there is alot of backlash time to call in an expert and have them rebuild it. backlash would be as i try to rock the main ring a measure of how much it moves right shrug. what other choices do you have i dunno maybe there is a safety recall for this or something... adjusting these adusters according to beekeep is not terribly difficult. i will read some more. the question is whether my carrier bearings are trashed. i somehow i believe what you found is unrelated to your problem though the lock should be replaced properly. it sounds to me more like a bad axle bearing. the carrier bearings work regardless of which wheel is turning. do not try to adjust or replace the carrier bearings or the pinion bearings unless you are real sure it is necessary and you have the tools and knowledge to do it properly. don young i agree. but check the backlass. if it is close dont ajust anything. change out the wheel bearings and seals and see what happens. beekeep .

From : craig c

on sun 24 sep 2006 172326 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote budd cochran wrote unfortunately miles too many dont hold themselves accountable let alone follow any other moral values. who decides what is moral or not for me i decide for myself. somethings i believe in say or do maybe immoral to you and vis-versa. right on... thats the problem that ive always had with censorship... who decides whats good or bad for us i think adults practice self censorship.. if it offends you dont look/complain/etc.... if for example nobody wanted to see x rated movies there wouldnt be any profit in them and theyd cease to exist.. self censorship mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : Annonymous

mac davis wrote craig... i dont know what reader youre using but i highly recommend agent... a feature that i like is the ignore thread... for when i want to drop the by and get to the real stuff... much better than a kill file imo.. i have recently switched to xana. after reading your post here about agent i looked and i do not have an ignore thread option. i do however have an ignore branch option. ill give it a shot. if that doesnt work ill take a look at agent. thanks craig c. .

From : Annonymous

on sun 24 sep 2006 032047 gmt royj spamless@microsoft.net wrote id suggest taking a deep breath and holding it for while so you stop hyperventelating. there ok now ok. looks like the retainer lock was installed backwards just snapped off. this would give you the score mark on ring gear. neither of those items really concerns me other than ranting about nincompoops at the factory. i would be concerned if the bearing retainer had moved. if it was loose you will have trashed the bearings as well as gotten abnormal wear on the ring/pinion. since i doubt you have any warranty coverage its up to you. id clean up the whole assembly so you can see what it looks like without the oil residue. a good wear pattern is centered in the ring gear teeth. lots more info in lots of places try this for starters keep looking. http//www.ring-pinion.com/downloads/yukoninstman.pdf ok will read this. if the tooth wear looks ok finish flushing the gear case put in fresh oil keep going. perhaps drain and flush again in 30 to 60 days. if the wear pattern shows that it has shifted over time or there is alot of backlash time to call in an expert and have them rebuild it. backlash would be as i try to rock the main ring a measure of how much it moves right shrug. what other choices do you have i dunno maybe there is a safety recall for this or something... adjusting these adusters according to beekeep is not terribly difficult. i will read some more. the question is whether my carrier bearings are trashed. i somehow i believe what you found is unrelated to your problem though the lock should be replaced properly. it sounds to me more like a bad axle bearing. the carrier bearings work regardless of which wheel is turning. do not try to adjust or replace the carrier bearings or the pinion bearings unless you are real sure it is necessary and you have the tools and knowledge to do it properly. don young .

From : azwiley1

on sat 23 sep 2006 202234 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote hey knucklehead the retards that you say we should listen to in the command over there are nothing more then politicians in uniform. they are so far gone from knowing about real military it is not funny. at the rank they are all they care about is kissing presidential ass because they know that they only people that can hurt their career is congress and higher. they will and do say anything that is politically correct that can be said. if you dont think i am right get off your lazy ass join the military and become an intel analyst over there. i did i saw i have a better understanding and knowledge base about it then you. so you think believe and listen to who ever you want. youre done! yeah you were an enlisted non com in military intelligence so you have all the answers. tell you what genius just keep listening to cnn then and you will have the whole deal down. and just how do you know that you have a better understanding and knowledge base than i do oh yeah you just know. you got no fucking clue as to who i am and what i know braniac. so listen to cnn and read your paper every morning and you can continue to have it all figured out. great another fucking moron enters the fray. on sat 23 sep 2006 190954 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote yeah having worked with a lot of the assholes in the command staff over there in very similar situations. hell even providing some of the information as a former intel analyst i full or is that fool heartedly listen to everything they have to say and believe it. not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your choice. listen to the politicians instead then genius. on fri 22 sep 2006 172108 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. yeah i would like to know how we could win this war if it so simple to you. i would love to have my cousin step daughter and step son home! listen to the command staff of the armed services over there. they have had several plans but they dont fit our political needs and there is a fear that their would too many innocent lives lost and that would infuriate the muslim population even more. as a result we fight a political war with political rules and our soldiers continue to die. john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com roy .

From : azwiley1

on sat 23 sep 2006 190954 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote yeah having worked with a lot of the assholes in the command staff over there in very similar situations. hell even providing some of the information as a former intel analyst i full or is that fool heartedly listen to everything they have to say and believe it. not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your choice. listen to the politicians instead then genius. on fri 22 sep 2006 172108 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. yeah i would like to know how we could win this war if it so simple to you. i would love to have my cousin step daughter and step son home! listen to the command staff of the armed services over there. they have had several plans but they dont fit our political needs and there is a fear that their would too many innocent lives lost and that would infuriate the muslim population even more. as a result we fight a political war with political rules and our soldiers continue to die. john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com roy .

From : Annonymous

yeah having worked with a lot of the assholes in the command staff over there in very similar situations. hell even providing some of the information as a former intel analyst i full or is that fool heartedly listen to everything they have to say and believe it. not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on fri 22 sep 2006 172108 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. yeah i would like to know how we could win this war if it so simple to you. i would love to have my cousin step daughter and step son home! listen to the command staff of the armed services over there. they have had several plans but they dont fit our political needs and there is a fear that their would too many innocent lives lost and that would infuriate the muslim population even more. as a result we fight a political war with political rules and our soldiers continue to die. john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com roy .

From : Annonymous

systems.com says... ignoramus937 wrote i decided to take pictures as i go along. see http//igor.chudov.com/projects/automotive/drivetrain-noise-in-dodge-ram-1500-pickup/ some findings as i opened up the differential. 1. it is full of gear oil. means my oil change 2 years ago was successful 2. on the bottom there is some amount of of like 100 grit metal dust settled down. 3. there was one foreign object on the bottom see http//tinyurl.com/zr8zg 4. the gears and such do not seem to have any unusual damage. i yikes! you say unusual damage the drive faces of these gears should be as smooth as mirrors. any small nicks or dings will cause considerable metal-metal contact and overheating especially at highway speed. the hypoid gears make a very sliding sort of contact and if there are mars on the surface that will cause rubbing of the metal. they will eventually smooth off again i suppose. if you do try to continue using this differential i would see about getting magnetic drain plugs for it or making them if you have to not very hard. then i would go out for a short drive drain the diff and refill. if you want you could take the oil and run it through a fine filter and reuse it. a large filter paper in a funnel left to drain overnight should get the metal out. the full diff contents might take several separate funnels to run through in one day though as that stuff is awfully thick even without foreign matter. otherwise id keep draining and refilling it at gradually longer intervals until you dont see any metal on the magnets anymore. of course you have to find out what bolt that retainer flap was supposed to hold in place and re-do that section. oh hell i didnt even mention bearings. this kind of crud must be even harder on the bearings than the gear teeth! i think the main tapered roller bearings may sound fine right now but they are going to fail for sure after this abuse. jon i would agree with all the above and you really need to take everything apart and clean it up and look at everything. this is probably covered under some sort of warranty and i wouldnt want to go through the mess and hassle of putting a rear together again. not to mention the smell of the lube. last time i got some of it in my hair and even after washing it several times i could still smell it. bdk .

From : tom lawrence

our old buddy is getting beat upon over in the 4x4 chevy group. better them than us....... is that tears i hear dripping on the ground vbg denny i followed your post over there. roy .

From : Annonymous

on sat 23 sep 2006 053136 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote isnt this always the case larry liberals always say how we need to win a war but wont come forward with a plan. and if someone else suggests we do what needs to be done how cruel or evil it is. they need to remember it was a liberal president franklin roosevelt who approved dropping the atomic bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki. -- budd cochran what a moron. our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. yeah i would like to know how we could win this war if it so simple to you. i would love to have my cousin step daughter and step son home! john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com roy .

From : beekeep

on fri 22 sep 2006 181714 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. oh geemy mistake ... i thought this was an unmoderated group and i could state an opinion. yep unmoderated. means im pretty much free to comment on your opinions and point out what a moron you are at any time. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. all wars have costs not just financial or in lives but in emotions and national spirit. one thing that has been proven is that war protestors extend the cartnage not reduce it. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. well gee thats what we should have done in korea vietnam desert storm . . .did i miss any but the liberals dont want to win just waste lives and money. get kerry and the rest of the liberals to wake up and this could be over with. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams .

From : tbone

on sat 23 sep 2006 194951 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote our old buddy is getting beat upon over in the 4x4 chevy group. better them than us....... is that tears i hear dripping on the ground vbg denny you guys must have a really boring life knock yourself out. btw nobody is beating me up like you say there is just a few children like yourself that are insecure but several posters email me direct to get past your bs and others so have fun if it makes you happy as you are not bothering me at all.. answer the questions in the v10 thread!! ----------------- theassholeman.com .

From : tbone

on sat 23 sep 2006 194951 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote our old buddy is getting beat upon over in the 4x4 chevy group. better them than us....... is that tears i hear dripping on the ground vbg denny you guys must have a really boring life knock yourself out. btw nobody is beating me up like you say there is just a few children like yourself that are insecure but several posters email me direct to get past your bs and others so have fun if it makes you happy as you are not bothering me at all.. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : john kunkel

ignoramus937 wrote i decided to take pictures as i go along. see http//igor.chudov.com/projects/automotive/drivetrain-noise-in-dodge-ram-1500-pickup/ some findings as i opened up the differential. 1. it is full of gear oil. means my oil change 2 years ago was successful 2. on the bottom there is some amount of of like 100 grit metal dust settled down. 3. there was one foreign object on the bottom see http//tinyurl.com/zr8zg 4. the gears and such do not seem to have any unusual damage. i yikes! you say unusual damage the drive faces of these gears should be as smooth as mirrors. any small nicks or dings will cause considerable metal-metal contact and overheating especially at highway speed. the hypoid gears make a very sliding sort of contact and if there are mars on the surface that will cause rubbing of the metal. they will eventually smooth off again i suppose. if you do try to continue using this differential i would see about getting magnetic drain plugs for it or making them if you have to not very hard. then i would go out for a short drive drain the diff and refill. if you want you could take the oil and run it through a fine filter and reuse it. a large filter paper in a funnel left to drain overnight should get the metal out. the full diff contents might take several separate funnels to run through in one day though as that stuff is awfully thick even without foreign matter. otherwise id keep draining and refilling it at gradually longer intervals until you dont see any metal on the magnets anymore. of course you have to find out what bolt that retainer flap was supposed to hold in place and re-do that section. oh hell i didnt even mention bearings. this kind of crud must be even harder on the bearings than the gear teeth! i think the main tapered roller bearings may sound fine right now but they are going to fail for sure after this abuse. jon .

From : Annonymous

says... take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com they need to add a body bag count. and a count of how many veterans will return physcially or mentally disabled. and how much their health care will cost over the next 7 decades. and how many familes have been devastated by losing a vet or having to care for a disabled vet. .

From : tbone

when i look at the piece it looks like one of the side adjuster locks broke off. if so that would throw the ring gear adjustment out of whack. tony i decided to take pictures as i go along. see http//igor.chudov.com/projects/automotive/drivetrain-noise-in-dodge-ram-1500-pickup/ some findings as i opened up the differential. 1. it is full of gear oil. means my oil change 2 years ago was successful 2. on the bottom there is some amount of of like 100 grit metal dust settled down. 3. there was one foreign object on the bottom see http//tinyurl.com/zr8zg 4. the gears and such do not seem to have any unusual damage. i .

From : tbone

isnt this always the case larry liberals always say how we need to win a war but wont come forward with a plan. and exactly what plan have the conservatives come up with besides wasting hundreds of buillions of dollars and thousands of lives for no real purpose at all do we have the person actually responsible for 9/11 yet and if someone else suggests we do what needs to be done how cruel or evil it is. if we do what you suggest what makes us any better than the ones we are fighting and if we are no better than they are by what right did we have to go in there in the first place they need to remember it was a liberal president franklin roosevelt who approved dropping the atomic bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki. which blows you crap about the liberals not coming forward with a plan to hell. roosevelt knew that we had to defeat japan and we had to break their spirit to do it. we could have went in there with ground forces but do to the culture of the people there we would have lost hundreds of thousands of our men killed millions of japanese citizens and basically destroyed their country physically and ours economically to do it that way. dropping those two bombs showed them that they didnt stand a chance against us and that their defeat and destruction of their culture would be quick and complete which broke their spirit and gave us their surrender with minimal loss on both sides. i guess that you are saying that liberals use their brains while conservatives use something else and with the current state of things i would have to agree. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on tue 19 sep 2006 181329 +0000 craig c. wrote all just wanted to give a quick update on my experiences so far using biowillie bio-diesel. i think its important that we keep sharing our experiences on this subject good and bad since many of us in the u.s. will see this alternative fuel become more common. ive been running homemade b20 in a 12 valve cummins - its quieter by maybe 20% and has the same power and mileage. the truck is being pretty much rebuilt right now. when all the mechanicals are addressed itll be converted to run on straight waste oil svo. the family is running homemade b100 in a massey ferguson farm tractor and an 82 mercedes 300d. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

some updates... i braced the truck with proper wheel chocks lifted the rear of the truck off the ground and started looking. when i would put it in drive and get to same speeds that caused trouble i could hear the same noise. a fact that i consider good since i can trouble shoot the situation. i then took off one wheel and one drum. the noise continued. i then took another wheel and drum. the noise stopped! the most obvious suspicion now is that the brake on the wheel that i took off last is somehow not properly working. does it make sense i .

From : beekeep

budd cochran wrote all wars have costs not just financial or in lives but in emotions and national spirit. one thing that has been proven is that war protestors extend the cartnage not reduce it. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. well gee thats what we should have done in korea vietnam desert storm . . .did i miss any but the liberals dont want to win just waste lives and money. get kerry and the rest of the liberals to wake up and this could be over with. world war ii was a gloves off type of mission... back when bombing entire german cities for the sole purpose of hurting german morale was acceptable. by some see bombing of dresden war only makes death not sure if you could say it makes peace. all out bombing only pisses them off more everyone would have to die.. all at once. oooooo armageddon theres a thought .

From : coffee

isnt this always the case larry liberals always say how we need to win a war but wont come forward with a plan. and if someone else suggests we do what needs to be done how cruel or evil it is. they need to remember it was a liberal president franklin roosevelt who approved dropping the atomic bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki. -- budd cochran our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. yeah i would like to know how we could win this war if it so simple to you. i would love to have my cousin step daughter and step son home! john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com roy -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : azwiley1

back in another life we used to put an additive in semis to prevent jelling and algae.... not needed/used any more not like it was years ago. now there is a winter fuel that we see here around mid oct. it is supposedly good for below zero i dont know for sure how cold you can run it without a additive. the algae ive seen once in the past 10 years in a loco that sat for about 10 months. i remember 30 years ago watching as they poured a 55gal drum of alchol into a loco fuel tank to combat algae. dont believe it. dont believe what that you need a additive the winter fuel here sold here does not gel at 0. roy .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on fri 22 sep 2006 181942 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote take off the gloves when interrogating. the taliban wont be following any rules why should we because were a country whos laws were based on christianity kick butt when necessary. if the enemy is known to be in an area accept collateral damage if need be. again we dont do that because our country is based on christian beliefs. and stop listening to panty waist liberals. is that what you call christians now -- budd cochran beekeep .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. yeah i would like to know how we could win this war if it so simple to you. i would love to have my cousin step daughter and step son home! john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams take a look at this your tax dollars at work. www.costofwar.com roy .

From : coffee

back in another life we used to put an additive in semis to prevent jelling and algae.... not needed/used any more not like it was years ago. now there is a winter fuel that we see here around mid oct. it is supposedly good for below zero i dont know for sure how cold you can run it without a additive. the algae ive seen once in the past 10 years in a loco that sat for about 10 months. i remember 30 years ago watching as they poured a 55gal drum of alchol into a loco fuel tank to combat algae. dont believe it. you need a good additive. i run a vw jetta tdi diesel and have used b-20 b-5 and straight d-2. over on tdiclub.com everyone puts an additive in the diesel fuel to prevent gelling and for lubrication. some additives even raise the cetane rating. winter diesel fuel blends do help some with gelling but it may not be enough depending on temperature and where you travel. bottom line - you need a good additive regardless of the diesel fuel and if running biodiesel in cold weather you need it more and sooner. unless of course you dont mind a vehicle that doesnt start or having to replace your fuel filters that get frozen or gel up. john .

From : electrician

pete c. aux3.doh.4@snet.net wrote in never trust a manuals warnings. rebuilding a typical light truck axle is *not* brain surgery just a bit tedious. pete c. zackly fairly simple really but it is a tedious adventure. why cant they all be like a good ol ford 9 -- anthony you cant idiot proof anything....every time you try they just make better idiots. remove sp to reply via email .

From : tbone

please dude if we could have won it we would have. this war was and still is an exercise in futility and a massive drain on this country in both cost and lives but if you really think we can win it please tell us how. i would really like to know. talk to saddam say hey dude sorry here we will pay you handsomely just let us put you back into power we will give you back your militia and your mustard gas. saddam goes back into power kills anyone who opposes his laws kills anyone who looks at him inappropriately his people hate him.. but nobody dares do anything about it. all back to normal. either that or stage an accident involving nukes. you didnt say win it by non confrontational means and make everyone love us afterwards that wont happen anytime soon btw the only real way to stop it is having all the iraq / iran children growing up to not believe the ways of their parents. so if you can change the education system and silence the adults 20 years .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on fri 22 sep 2006 142108 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i love reading the whos who list of liberal organizations that fund them. it sure explains the bias. gee the money for that project could have been spent on education charities neighborhood development . . . . -- budd cochran a little short sighted on your part. dont talk about bias of other groups and then write such a biased statement. that was stupid. i am not opposed to the war or the action but it vital to keep the costs in mind. not just the financial ones either but in lives. also we could win this war. instead we do this political shuffle while you and i pay for this war and our sons die in it. if this is a war take the gloves off win the stinking thing. please dude if we could have won it we would have. this war was and still is an exercise in futility and a massive drain on this country in both cost and lives but if you really think we can win it please tell us how. i would really like to know. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : Annonymous

i discovered some fascinating things about where that broken piece comes from and why it fell off. it looks to me like it was improperly installed at the factory. http//igor.chudov.com/projects/automotive/drivetrain-noise-in-dodge-ram-1500-pickup/ i put pictures there of the exploded diagram of my 9.25 axle and highlighted how it should be installed. i then made very detailed pictures of what remained from the part that broke adjuster ring lock and how it looks like it was installed backwards and broke probably as i was driving home from the dealer on day 1. i want some opinions on this shit specifically - it is really wrong or am i confused - is it covered by any sort of recall or advisory given that my pickup is a 1999 pickup - did the problem with the left adjuster lock in fact could possibly cause my problems with the right outer axle bearing - just how fucked i am here can i possibly get by with just replacing the right outer axle bearing and perhaps changing the oil a couple of times and installing some rare earth magnet to collect metallic dust over the next month. your collective help has been invaluable to me and i cannot say enough to express my extreme gratitude to all contributors so far. thank you thank you thank you i .