OT Weekend BS Post - rimfire
From : stormin mormon
Q: suddenly without warning stormin mormon exclaimed 04-nov-06 1151 pm youve just crashed your plane in the arctic wilds. its gonna be a week before you get rescued. you have a couple cases of cookies to eat plus the tent heater and so on. what kind of cookies did you bring well if it was cases of cookies probably cases of girl scout cookies. doesnt matter which kind. theyll last forever. i was going to say chocolate chip but theyd not last long enough. the plane woulda probably crashed cause i was eating the cookies rather than watching where i was going jmc .
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From : mike simmons
personally i have no problem with taxing denominations fyi. i do have problems with those that think they can re-write the bible and the basic interpretations to suit themselves as you are doing and i am intolerant in that respect as a true bible believing christian should be. the problem is you assume im trying to interpret the bible. im not. im saying that your references to the beginning of life are not that at all but instead are references to the beginning of the human spirit. a big difference because as you pointed out the bible is not a scientific reference. as such no scientific distinctions will be made within its covers. i am not interpreting it either im just quoting whats in it then giving my understanding of the verses. but one step further my point is not the abortion/beginning of life issue. indeed i am asking that the abortion issue be held as distinctly different from the stem cell issue. this is because scientifically they are different issues. if you join a human sperm and a human egg anywhere the result will not be a dog or horse only a human being if you dont kill it for the harvesting of stem cells. exciting an eg into mitosis is cloning a human and that is illegal as it should be. and what you and others are trying to do is convince me that a book that is 99.5% accurate when compared to the oldest copies is wrong. well i have to say this is amusing. you just wrote in a previous post that the 1611 kjv was more accurate than the rsv bible. now if there is that much difference in 400 years then could it be possible that the kjv is a bit skewed as well no matter its not the point im trying to make. the rsv doesnt compare well with the manuscripts the kjv does. http//www.carm.org/abortion/embryo.htm the question then becomes when does this humanness begin i cannot give an authoritative answer. says it all for me. taken from context i see. he says much more on the matter. http//www.carm.org/abortion/humanlife.htm when we stay blind to truth we abide in lies. the truth is that the baby is there in need of nourishment protection and love. dont kill it because it is inconvenient. be responsible for your actions and dont make the little ones pay for your sins. a clear reference to those who use abortion as a means of birth control. ive already stated that i dont think abortion is a good practice. you did read that part of my reply in my initial post did you not what is the killing of human zygotes regardless of where they were concieved the abortion of a human being. the killing of an illegal clone zygote may also be the killing of a human imho but until one is allowed to develop to maturity it reeamins an opinion. http//www.carm.org/abortion/mainissue.htm the issue the main issue that you have avoided and continue to avoid deals with what the life in the womb actually is human or not. thats terrific but im not talking about cells in the womb. no youre talking about human zygote / fetal cells regardless of where they are. human being cells scott not animal cells. or are you an animal http//www.carm.org/abortion/withparasite.htm when that negativity takes root it is far easier to destroy that life. this is why it is so important to use proper terms when discussing such a moral issue... i agree wholeheartedly. its time the religious conservatives called stem cell research exactly that and not that sounds like abortion to me. twist and spin. matt slick isnt talking about using pc terms you refer to but the terms that originally described the subjects of discussion babies human beings etc. http//www.carm.org/abortion/unwanted.htm second whether or not a baby is unwanted is irrelevant. just because a human being is not wanted does not mean that the human being has no value or should be killed. in addition huge numbers of families who are willing to adopt those unwanted babies. so those babies are wanted not unwanted. by relegating stem cell research to the negativity accorded abortion you effectively say that a cure for all those affected by the various genetic and cell related maladies is unwanted. it then follows that a value of something less than full human is assigned to those who have those maladies because we fail to use the knowledge and skills we have to better the human race as a whole. spin tactics scott where does it say they would be considered sub-human thats what some people want to do with babies christians or anything ewlse that might get in their way. and finally when did i give you the right to question my beliefs in effect telling me they are wrong one of us beleives the other wrong or there would be no questioning. i merely gave the verses you asked for and you took it on yourself to tell me that they dont mean what i understand them to mean i havent questioned your beliefs budd. i have said repeatedly that the issue yo
From : denny
on sun 05 nov 2006 224348 gmt stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote a true marksman eh im not sure i could do that. -- i hunted squirrels most of my life with a 22. still do only i have a magnum now. beekeep .
From : beekeep
if you join a human sperm and a human egg anywhere the result will not be a dog or horse only a human being if you dont kill it for the harvesting of stem cells. 1 harvesting stem cells does not involve killing the organism. 2 no fertilized embryos are used. sadly this is the crux of the issue. you and thousands like you do not understand stem cell research and prefer to argue on a completely different issue. exciting an eg into mitosis is cloning a human and that is illegal as it should be. stem cell research is not cloning. stem cell research is looking for a specific type of tissue with the express result of being different than the original via dna encoding. cloning involves replicating an entire animal stem cell research is looking for one tissue out of about 220 different types and once achiving that ensuring that it is encoded without the flaws that cause the disease. http//www.carm.org/abortion/embryo.htm the question then becomes when does this humanness begin i cannot give an authoritative answer. says it all for me. taken from context i see. he says much more on the matter. yep but that is the context and he uses that phrase or one much like it on every subsection. iow he admits he is not an expert and is only giving his interpretation. a clear reference to those who use abortion as a means of birth control. ive already stated that i dont think abortion is a good practice. you did read that part of my reply in my initial post did you not what is the killing of human zygotes regardless of where they were concieved the abortion of a human being. again i hate to have to repeat myself but they are not killing a zygote. they are propagating embryos the non viable unfertilized cells of humans. however stem cell research is not limited to embrionic cells. stem cells are found in all humans and can be harvested without killing the person. stem cells are also found in vast numbers in the umbilical cord. how much use will that get after birth the killing of an illegal clone zygote may also be the killing of a human imho but until one is allowed to develop to maturity it reeamins an opinion. they arent killing zygotes. thats terrific but im not talking about cells in the womb. no youre talking about human zygote / fetal cells regardless of where they are. human being cells scott not animal cells. no im not. im talking about stem cells. its even spelled differently. further im not talking about zygote stem cells im talking about stem cells from adults and labroatory created embryos. i agree wholeheartedly. its time the religious conservatives called stem cell research exactly that and not that sounds like abortion to me. twist and spin. matt slick isnt talking about using pc terms you refer to but the terms that originally described the subjects of discussion babies human beings etc. wrong again. all youve been able to talk about is the abortion issue and human life. im discussing stem cells not aborted fetuses. if your argument is that stem cell research is abortion you need to find better information than the propaganda youve been reading. by relegating stem cell research to the negativity accorded abortion you effectively say that a cure for all those affected by the various genetic and cell related maladies is unwanted. it then follows that a value of something less than full human is assigned to those who have those maladies because we fail to use the knowledge and skills we have to better the human race as a whole. spin tactics scott where does it say they would be considered sub-human thats what some people want to do with babies christians or anything ewlse that might get in their way. if you and others refuse these people the opportunity to find a cure you have in essence said your physical impairment isnt important to society because you arent as important as those with diseases we can cure without stem cell reasearch. i havent questioned your beliefs budd. i have said repeatedly that the issue you are debating is not the issue i wrote to senator santorum about. sadly you are among many religious conservatives who have confused the issues and are quite clearly lacking in facts. no confusion on my part but you are confused as to what is human and what is not. you still havent stated why those cells are not a human being. um no. i have repeatedly made the distinction between viable human zygote and human cells embryo and stem cells harvested from adult humans and umbilical cords. if you choose not to accept that difference then it is you who is confused. the bible recognized the design of the solar system a round earth and much more thousands of years before the great scientists were ever born. its far more scientific than you think. take human cloning . . god did it first genesis when he cloned eve from adam but unlike your scientists he did it right. pure
From : stormin mormon
suddenly without warning denny exclaimed 05-nov-06 1125 am suddenly without warning stormin mormon exclaimed 04-nov-06 1151 pm youve just crashed your plane in the arctic wilds. its gonna be a week before you get rescued. you have a couple cases of cookies to eat plus the tent heater and so on. what kind of cookies did you bring well if it was cases of cookies probably cases of girl scout cookies. doesnt matter which kind. theyll last forever. i was going to say chocolate chip but theyd not last long enough. the plane woulda probably crashed cause i was eating the cookies rather than watching where i was going a woman that i could grow to love.................. vbg denny jmc easy to please if all you expect from a woman is good chocolate chip cookie
From : stormin mormon
jmc not all that easy to please. shed have to concoct a killer pan of lasagna and help finish off a crave case of white castles too.. tell her the rest!! you could start by explaining your penchant for running around in a now huge pink rabbit suit. or maybe your hideing the mavhine no we wont go there. if you plan on feeding the rabbit. it is i guess like feeding the crew of a aircraft carrier. it is never ending. i know i ve seen him in action. his poor daughter as soon as the food was served she grabbed her plate and ran from the restaurent. the rabbit muttered something like ill get her desert. so there it is be prepared. bfg talk about concocting a big pan of bullshit...... there are about five true works typed and the rest........... denny . 222 324916 att3h.7510$xw1.2530@twister.nyroc.rr.com you mfing mfer! -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. i make sure the ky jelly tube is full. beekeep .
From : stormin mormon
dayum boy! i say you got us all beat skeeter! -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. about a 1500 lb angus steer. we had a bunch of coons in the barn one time and i was plinking the coons with the ole .22 and i guess a ricochet hit a steer in the belly. about a week later the steer started acting real strange like they do when they get a piece of wire in one of their stomachs. we had it butchered before it got real bad and the slaugher house called a few days later to tell us to look for a nail sticking out somewhere in the pen. seems like the hide had a puncture in it right in line with one of the stomachs. denny .
From : jmc
what do we have for a subject well we have maxs stem cell thread that was going to be real interesting until our nazi hijacked it. i dont mean that it was a bs post. the nazi maintains he doesnt read me so we could start it again here. or we have the pats and manning sun. night. brady seems to have hit full stride and manning well hes manning until he comes to foxboro. they have beat the pats once here. seems that the pats get into his head when he plays here. something else that should be interesting is adam vinaiteri will make his first appearance at foxboro since leaving the pats. the pats failure to keep who is probably the best clutch kicker ever about caused a riot here when word got out that he was gone. hell he carried the pats to 2 super bowls. sooo rabbit heres your chance again! so far ya lost dinner drinks and desert. how about we go for the tip or ya can say those words and jump on the wagon!!!! gbmfg ya dont have to tip at white castles..... ya shouldnt have to pay for them either!! the medicinal value alone is worth more than the cost of the burger... hey! im still waiting on info on the charger srt8. any problems i have been unable to find any. do ya think im gonna tell you anything after all the shit youve been giving me bg thats okay i put a deposit on one this afternoon. i couldnt find much negative doing a bunch of reading so i figure id give it a shot. i havent seen much of any problems with the charger yet but i havent seen one with very many miles on it yet either. we got in three police versions with 10-15000 miles on them and other than the tires had been boiled down to nothing i couldnt find anything to fix. the evil black version runs damned good id almost hate to punch it in a srt8. it sounds like they spent some time and thought before they punched the hemi to 6.1. im sure ill find out. i was more curios on the cutting out of cyl. at highway speed. im old enough to remember when caddy had this. a friend had one and they spent weeks trying to get all 8 running again. roy denny roy denny .
From : beekeep
what do we have for a subject well we have maxs stem cell thread that was going to be real interesting until our nazi hijacked it. i dont mean that it was a bs post. the nazi maintains he doesnt read me so we could start it again here. or we have the pats and manning sun. night. brady seems to have hit full stride and manning well hes manning until he comes to foxboro. they have beat the pats once here. seems that the pats get into his head when he plays here. something else that should be interesting is adam vinaiteri will make his first appearance at foxboro since leaving the pats. the pats failure to keep who is probably the best clutch kicker ever about caused a riot here when word got out that he was gone. hell he carried the pats to 2 super bowls. sooo rabbit heres your chance again! so far ya lost dinner drinks and desert. how about we go for the tip or ya can say those words and jump on the wagon!!!! gbmfg ya dont have to tip at white castles..... ya shouldnt have to pay for them either!! the medicinal value alone is worth more than the cost of the burger... hey! im still waiting on info on the charger srt8. any problems i have been unable to find any. do ya think im gonna tell you anything after all the shit youve been giving me bg thats okay i put a deposit on one this afternoon. i couldnt find much negative doing a bunch of reading so i figure id give it a shot. i havent seen much of any problems with the charger yet but i havent seen one with very many miles on it yet either. we got in three police versions with 10-15000 miles on them and other than the tires had been boiled down to nothing i couldnt find anything to fix. the evil black version runs damned good id almost hate to punch it in a srt8. denny roy denny .
From : jasper
whats the biggest critter you took down with a .22rf either rifle or handgun. my case woodchuck also called groundhog. maybe 10 pounds or so of brown fur. about a 1500 lb angus steer. we had a bunch of coons in the barn one time and i was plinking the coons with the ole .22 and i guess a ricochet hit a steer in the belly. about a week later the steer started acting real strange like they do when they get a piece of wire in one of their stomachs. we had it butchered before it got real bad and the slaugher house called a few days later to tell us to look for a nail sticking out somewhere in the pen. seems like the hide had a puncture in it right in line with one of the stomachs. denny .
From : denny
on sat 4 nov 2006 145000 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sat 4 nov 2006 135506 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sat 4 nov 2006 070833 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote what do we have for a subject well we have maxs stem cell thread that was going to be real interesting until our nazi hijacked it. i dont mean that it was a bs post. the nazi maintains he doesnt read me so we could start it again here. or we have the pats and manning sun. night. brady seems to have hit full stride and manning well hes manning until he comes to foxboro. they have beat the pats once here. seems that the pats get into his head when he plays here. something else that should be interesting is adam vinaiteri will make his first appearance at foxboro since leaving the pats. the pats failure to keep who is probably the best clutch kicker ever about caused a riot here when word got out that he was gone. hell he carried the pats to 2 super bowls. sooo rabbit heres your chance again! so far ya lost dinner drinks and desert. how about we go for the tip or ya can say those words and jump on the wagon!!!! gbmfg hey! im still waiting on info on the charger srt8. any problems i have been unable to find any. roy is foxboro an outside stadium and if so what will the weather be like sunday it is outside. as for the weather lows in the 30s wind 10-15mph. rain nope should be a nice crisp night. colts by 2 i could only wish. i hate to admit it but the pats will win this one. no im got getting on any wagon but manning wont get it done. denny .