OT Weekend BS Post - cookies
From : stormin mormon
Q: one can only teach those willing to learn. but dont worry you have nothing to fear on the matter. btw sarcasm is better done more subtly. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams oh yeah go for the gold i finally made it and i didnt even have to hurl an insult. america is truly the greatest country! oh wait this is the internet. and to answer well originally i thought i might learn something...but with a billion ot posts i have to see what the commotion is about....like temptation in the garden of eden budd cochran wrote so tell me something did you have someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read it if not then why did you -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams man oh man the only good part about this argument that some day ill be dead and wont have to read this -- its like a train wreck i cant turn away from. i can accept that its part of christian doctrine to spread the word of god and that some people see endless arguing as sport... hey i want in somebody call me a pole smoking liberal homo tree hugger or straightedge conservative born-again christian....im gonna freaking die if i dont get attention... jon craig c. wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote i told ya to wait until he got going on this. this could be one of his better rants. roy just wondering. i bet he bails on this discussion. his argument is illogical. granted thats never stopped him before ... so who knows ... craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
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From : roy
ill take a look through my pwc rags and see what i can find for you. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels hi i am a welder of 26 years. i had seen webpage that showed a dual waverunner holder that would carry them over the roof of my truck. i am using a dodge 1 ton dually stretch cab and am pulling a fifth wheel trailer. legalities in my province state that i cant pull anything behind my fiver. has anyone seen such a roof rack that i could see photos of ill be damned if i can find that web page and have googled every phrase i can think of in this regard. thanks for any help.... jimi .
From : jmc
isaiah 442 i am truly sorry scott. i had believed you to be a person that would not attack conservative fundamental christianity and you just did. and sadly your reason is selfishness. attack now tell me he is not out of his friggin head!!!! so you choose to believe in the god of secularized religion no creation just evolution no resurrection just myth no christ in christs mass just xmas no soul in a zygote just a lump of cells to be killed and harvested no reason to be saved because there is no sin. an atheist in christian clothing. in your beliefs is god in there at all or would he be turned away at the door because hes not dressed in armani btw pick up a 1611 king james version its far more accurate than the rsv. goodbye it was nice knowing you and i have decided i will not listen anymore to those that deride my beliefs as those people have no right to do so even when they themselves are screaming i need to be tolerant. i need to be tolerant of their intolerance i guess since they wont be. max join the rest of us. there is absolutly no way to reason with him. you disagree with his position and it is a pesonal attck. crazy.... .
From : denny
what are you looking for scott a medical definition in a book of faith you claimed that there was one. i asked to see it. i know there isnt one. thus it is up to interpretation when life begins if one looks for the info in the bible. but im not looking in the bible nor am i concerned with the issue. i am concerned that the abortion issue is being used to cloud the use of stem cells. 4424 much a repeat of the previous phrase thus says the lord your redeemer who formed you from the womb. again all this says is that god is the origin of life. it does not say when life actually begins. it does you do not see it. incorrect. i looked at the whole chapter and the verses before and after. put in context the words are merely a method of showing why the individual be it jeremiah or isaiah should believe and have confidence in the words he is hearing. no the mormons say the soul and spirit exist before birth based on this verse. what it says to me is that god has created us to be human beings from conception to death and that he knows how we will live what we will do and how we will regard him all our lives. ok but in your words above you dont mention when that life begins. if we take your definition then it would be unethical to use adult stem cells because they too are life. terrific. but neither describes a point beginning life. are you sure you want to know rhetorical question at best. why because even if i did want to know its not the issue of stem cell research. that is my point. the anti abortion idiots are using their issue to put a stop to valuable research that has very little to do with their issue. in the end abortion is legal and so even if it were connected wholly with stem cell research there is no legal or ethical question here. but a mass of idiots keep stepping in the way regardless. oh you want scientific verses . . .gee how will i find them in a holy book . . . you wont and thats my point. right-to-lifers think they have grounds to interfere in stem cell research based on their presumtions on when life begins. sadly they havent done the right homework. what has that to do with the topic oh you think that a human sperm and egg that dies on the vine is not a human being . . .wow you justified the heck out of that situation didnt you its not a human being at that stage. at best its a zygote with but a few cell types. but again thats not the issue since stem cell research doesnt require the use of zygotes. secondly a womans periodic cycle happens because of lack of fertilization thus the sperm and egg are not existing. but the egg in your terms is viable life. yet nature rids it from viability with nary a complaint from the anti abortion lobby. we could debate for days on when life actually begins. but as i said in my initial post thats not the issue. the issue is that stem cell research is rejected because some asshole read that conservative religious scared-for-his-job congressman mistakenly connected stem cell research and abortion as being dependant on one another. they are not. aha . . .now it comes out. if you read my initial post you would know this. i stated it very plainly. and maybe god still does not condone the killing of innocents . . . . . stem cell research does not kill innocents. when this rabid bullshit stops maybe more cures will be found. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author isaiah 442 this says nothing of when life starts merely that the lord who made you formed you from the womb. taken into context it is a passage noting who god is and why his word should be accepted by jacob. thus says the lord who made you and formed you from the womb and will help you fear not jacob o my servant..... the rest of the passage deals with how the lord will hold jacob and his descendants above all others and that he alone is god. not a word about when human life starts nor should there be as the passage is not about human life but about gods blessing upon one jacob. what are you looking for scott a medical definition in a book of faith 4424 much a repeat of the previous phrase thus says the lord your redeemer who formed you from the womb. again all this says is that god is the origin of life. it does not say when life actually begins. it does you do not see it. and 495 yet another example of the exact same words. a backup to reinforce the statement. jeremiah 15 my favorite. god knows you are a human being from the moment of conception. in this verse god says that he knows jeremiah before he was formed in the womb. it does not say when life begins but it does indicate that the spirit of an individual exists before given human form. thus if we take your interpretation of
From : denny
i think the advantages of using embryonic cells has been oversold to say the least. most of the medical miracles the proponents mention is pure speculation. a few years ago they used christopher reeves to imply that it could cure paralysis. enough real doctors spoke out about that one and you dont hear that yarn any more. well its not pure speculation as you term it. its a known fact that stem cells can be implanted and therefore coded to produce different types of tissue. the question isnt so much one of can it be done but one of how can we use this knowledge. as such the experimentation isnt one of making a cell into something but how to get that something into a usable form. in conducting experiments stem cells are needed as part of the process. once encoded they cannot be reused. thus stem cells become a necessary supply much like the other elements of the experiment. i believe the proposal is primarily 98% about consuming taxpayer money. advertisers often try to give the impression that academia and the medical arts industries are more ethical than other business but real life doesnt support that theory. given that the federal government has seen fit to fund many different types of research on a wide array of human illness the lack of funding to stem cell research isnt based on monetary reasons but ethical reasons. the fact still remains abortion is not part of the stem cell research issue. sadly many politicians do not realize this nor do their rabid constituants. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author i think the advantages of using embryonic cells has been oversold to say the least. most of the medical miracles the proponents mention is pure speculation. a few years ago they used christopher reeves to imply that it could cure paralysis. enough real doctors spoke out about that one and you dont hear that yarn any more. in missouri the measure is put forth as a state constitution amendment and that is scary. there is lots of questionable wording in the law and it is much harder to undo mistakes when they are part of a constitution. i believe the proposal is primarily 98% about consuming taxpayer money. advertisers often try to give the impression that academia and the medical arts industries are more ethical than other business but real life doesnt support that theory. bill .
From : jmc
whats the diff negative or positive why do you have to disconnect one instead of the other -- christopher a. young safety reasons chris. if you drop the neg connector onto metal it is neg to neg not a big deal. if you drop the pos onto that metal it is pos to neg. might not be a big a deal when you have one battery but when you have two as in the ctd it puts on an impressive show. fmb north mexico .
From : roy
whats the biggest critter you took down with a .22rf either rifle or handgun. my case woodchuck also called groundhog. maybe 10 pounds or so of brown fur. do bowling balls count ;^ mike that was with the .50 s&w and it was one tuff bowling ball. it didnt count in this thread......thankfully.. bg denny .
From : denny
whats the biggest critter you took down with a .22rf either rifle or handgun. my case woodchuck also called groundhog. maybe 10 pounds or so of brown fur. do bowling balls count ;^ mike -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . what do we have for a subject .
From : azwiley1
not really . . .the dark ages came about because of the corruptions of the teachings by various religious groups like the catholics not fundamentalists. did he just bash catholics yeah he did. however in his defense that is one fact he got right. the actions of the catholic church are part of the reason europe went through the dark ages. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author not really . . .the dark ages came about because of the corruptions of the teachings by various religious groups like the catholics not fundamentalists. did he just bash catholics .