OT-Tolerance

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

Q: on thu 9 nov 2006 190544 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view i will. if you will tolerate mine. i pretty much believe the oppsosite of you. i believe that god also believes the opposite of what you just wrote. on the other hand i am willing to say that it is a private discussion between god and me. are you in other words can you just keep your opinions regarding god to yourself can you stop being a soldier of the far right christian fundamentalists at least on this ng or iow can you just go see a doctor and get some meds to settle you down -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams .

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From : craig c

on nov 10 755 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote ive never said this before but hey - first time for everything. budd fuck you. now go play the wounded victim and tell me how shocked you are. http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd5.htm craig c. .

From : jmc

was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. .

From : jmc

on nov 10 1221 pm budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote no conditions greg either accept me and my beliefs or not. speaking only for me ... http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd6.htm craig c. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote well roy looks like you choose to not tolerate my beliefs. you do not tolerate anyones beliefs that differ from your own. dont expect anyone to have any respect or tolerance from you as long as you hold to that radical form of christianity. .

From : Annonymous

theguy@whatever.net wrote well roy was right again. new bumper sticker instead of rush was right roy was right. - craig c. .

From : john kunkel

unless your name is budd and youve made any sort of religious statement. right roy no unless you become a idiot!! .

From : jon

ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view only if you can prove the existence of god and the validity of the bible. .

From : craig c

ok here is one for all the experts in here what would happen if you attempted to run e85 in a non flex-fuel non-e85 capable vehicle .

From : Annonymous

win a race this year toyota 12 wins ford 7 wins chevey 5 wins one race to go! beekeep .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

i miss his knowledge and his willing to help. -- i am so confused borzoi .

From : roy

clare wrote the kettle black - yall are every bit as intollerant as budd is. and perhaps moreso. youre crackin me up. craig c. .

From : craig c

on tue 14 nov 2006 145158 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote clare wrote the kettle black - yall are every bit as intollerant as budd is. and perhaps moreso. youre crackin me up. hmmmm..... they seem to have a lot of common both use the same mail program as well. he wouldnt...........would he craig c. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote its funny how everyone wants to put conditions on tolerance when it comes to what i believe. that is not tolerance. what conditions you mean about wanting you to have tolerance and respect for others if you expect the same in return youve already stated that doing so is against your religion. so be it. .

From : tbone

on nov 10 856 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote damn even at my worst i wasnt bad enough to get a web site dedicated to me. are you proud budd hey its the *least* i could do. you cant get this kind of entertainment anywhere! look out borat ... here comes the budd-meister! craig c. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

lol and this is our militaries commander and chief. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. .

From : azwiley1

i prefer a gasket napa carrys one. remove the bolts-tap cover with hammer. clean it up & reassemble quick & easy job on some rear axles you can remove a bottom bolt on the cover to drain it. never owned a dakota so i cant say about them. i like to remove the cover just so i can look for signs of problems. like metal in the bottom al .

From : craig c

heatwave wrote hey tbone... marxism communism socialism... rename it as often as you like it has never worked...and never will. he doesnt believe what he keeps wanting is any of those because he has little knowledge of them. his wishes are exactly what such systems aimed to achieve....and failed. .

From : beekeep

hi i think the 96 has the obd-ii system. try www.harborfreight.com for a reader. i think i saw them there for around 60-bucks maybe more maybe less. dave dmso wrote i am looking for a decent code reader for my 1996 ram 1500. any suggestions i dont want to overspend on more than i need. thanks dmso .

From : heatwave

the titanic made it to and from the gas station. so unless something is leaking not likely the case is closed. until it breaks again. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. couple minutes from now im going on the maiden voyage down to the gas station. i think the problem was rotted out fuel line. replaced 10 feet or so of 3/8 inch rust that was pretending to be fuel line. now the van runs continuous instead of one second at a time. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. 87 dodge van. 318 engine. 145k miles. four barrel carb. slows and only goes about 20 mph. with gentle throttle. flooring it causes it to die completely. after doing this for awhile slows and dies. restarts after a couple minutes restarts easier with a squirt of ether. then drives for another hundred feet or so. problem is intermittent. two weeks ago had the problem. so i added drygas and filled the tank. it was fine for about two weeks. did it again yesterday had to call a tow truck to get me home. today i checked the fuel delivery put a paper napkin over the high side line coming off the fuel pump. run the startter and the paper napkin soaked right through with gasoline. changed the fuel filter its starting to rain. its good and wet out there. ive heard an assortment of theories. but there are some really good mopar experts on this group. what comes to mind in terms of problems and repairs -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. .

From : jmc

i am having a low oil pressure problem with my truckfirst off i am an ase tech so i know what i am doingso anyways it has low oil pressure at idle after engine is warmso i went to change the oil pumpit allready had an aftermarket high volume oil pump in itthe same one that i boughtbut i put the new one in anywaysstill low oil pressureso i change the sending unitwitch was looked ame low oil pressuere problemand also i have what sounds like a slight lifter noise above 3k rpmlike the lifters arent pumping all the way upso i pull off the valve covers and check all the push rodsall are clean and i perfect shapethen finnaly the valve clatter has gotten a little worse and now i have a cylinder 1 misfire codeso now im almost sure it is the lifters not pumping upbut what i dont understand is why is there low oil pressure at idle but when above 1k rpm it has 100psi with the high volume pumpand no its not bearing clearnce all bearings are in perfect shape and are newi dont understand what to do here i was going to change all the lifters but i dont know if that will solve my low oil pressure problem or the valve clatterand no its not spark knockany help please thanks -daniel .

From : craig c

stormin mormon wrote 87 dodge van. 318 engine. 145k miles. four barrel carb. slows and only goes about 20 mph. with gentle throttle. flooring it causes it to die completely. after doing this for awhile slows and dies. restarts after a couple minutes restarts easier with a squirt of ether. then drives for another hundred feet or so. problem is intermittent. two weeks ago had the problem. so i added drygas and filled the tank. it was fine for about two weeks. did it again yesterday had to call a tow truck to get me home. today i checked the fuel delivery put a paper napkin over the high side line coming off the fuel pump. run the startter and the paper napkin soaked right through with gasoline. changed the fuel filter its starting to rain. its good and wet out there. ive heard an assortment of theories. but there are some really good mopar experts on this group. what comes to mind in terms of problems and repairs sounds like a fuel pressure problem. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .

From : beekeep

87 dodge van. 318 engine. 145k miles. four barrel carb. slows and only goes about 20 mph. with gentle throttle. flooring it causes it to die completely. after doing this for awhile slows and dies. restarts after a couple minutes restarts easier with a squirt of ether. then drives for another hundred feet or so. problem is intermittent. two weeks ago had the problem. so i added drygas and filled the tank. it was fine for about two weeks. did it again yesterday had to call a tow truck to get me home. today i checked the fuel delivery put a paper napkin over the high side line coming off the fuel pump. run the startter and the paper napkin soaked right through with gasoline. changed the fuel filter its starting to rain. its good and wet out there. ive heard an assortment of theories. but there are some really good mopar experts on this group. what comes to mind in terms of problems and repairs -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . when it wont start open the hood and check to see if you are getting spark and/or fuel. when you figure that out you will know which way to proceed. to me it sounds like an ignition problem. .

From : john kunkel

if you stop shouting ill be happy to offer a couple very valid ideas. youre hurting my ears. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. i am having a low oil pressure problem with my truckfirst off i am an ase tech so i know what i am doingso anyways it has low oil pressure at idle after engine is warmso i went to change the oil pumpit allready had an aftermarket high volume oil pump in itthe same one that i boughtbut i put the new one in anywaysstill low oil pressureso i change the sending unitwitch was looked ame low oil pressuere problemand also i have what sounds like a slight lifter noise above 3k rpmlike the lifters arent pumping all the way upso i pull off the valve covers and check all the push rodsall are clean and i perfect shapethen finnaly the valve clatter has gotten a little worse and now i have a cylinder 1 misfire codeso now im almost sure it is the lifters not pumping upbut what i dont understand is why is there low oil pressure at idle but when above 1k rpm it has 100psi with the high volume pumpand no its not bearing clearnce all bearings are in perfect shape and are newi dont understand what to do here i was going to change all the lifters but i dont know if that will solve my low oil pressure problem or the valve clatterand no its not spark knockany help please thanks -daniel .

From : bob m

87 dodge van. 318 engine. 145k miles. four barrel carb. slows and only goes about 20 mph. with gentle throttle. flooring it causes it to die completely. after doing this for awhile slows and dies. restarts after a couple minutes restarts easier with a squirt of ether. then drives for another hundred feet or so. problem is intermittent. two weeks ago had the problem. so i added drygas and filled the tank. it was fine for about two weeks. did it again yesterday had to call a tow truck to get me home. today i checked the fuel delivery put a paper napkin over the high side line coming off the fuel pump. run the startter and the paper napkin soaked right through with gasoline. changed the fuel filter its starting to rain. its good and wet out there. ive heard an assortment of theories. but there are some really good mopar experts on this group. what comes to mind in terms of problems and repairs -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. .

From : heatwave

jon r. pickens wrote saab has an engine thats calibrated to take advantage of the higher octane rating of e85 and in fact makes more power with it than gasoline. if only gm didnt own them ... actually my ex had a 2000 saab 9-3. ran great! transmission was a pos but other than that i enjoyed driving it. i especially enjoyed watching it drive away the last time i saw it ... with her in it. it wasnt headed over a cliff was it .

From : roy

jon r. pickens wrote saab has an engine thats calibrated to take advantage of the higher octane rating of e85 and in fact makes more power with it than gasoline. if only gm didnt own them ... actually my ex had a 2000 saab 9-3. ran great! transmission was a pos but other than that i enjoyed driving it. i especially enjoyed watching it drive away the last time i saw it ... with her in it. - craig c. .

From : craig c

a vehicle designed to run on gasoline will indeed lose power and fuel economy when ran with e85. however an engine designed to take advantage of that high octane rating can indeed match the power and fuel economy of the average gas-motor if not exceed it. saab has an engine thats calibrated to take advantage of the higher octane rating of e85 and in fact makes more power with it than gasoline. jp bigironram wrote alcohol has great octane much less btus. e-85 loses about 26% economy compared to straight gasoline. if it wasnt so heavily subsidized instead of taxed youd never even consider it. .

From : craig c

well theres your proof that you seek but are you responsible enough to admit what youve done snip rant have you let your family read what you have posted over the past month .

From : Annonymous

budd cochran wrote well theres your proof that you seek but are you responsible enough to admit what youve done clare chose to engage. there was no intolerance merely discussion. this further proves what someone in this ng has already said about *your* definition of intolerance. in your mind an intolerant person is someone that questions your belief system. you ran off a christian with your intolerance. you ran off once friends with your senile rants. points. your bad points youre an unrepentant sinner and your going to hell. that is your choice. romans 144- who are you to judge someone elses servant to his own master he stands or falls... you arent our master bitch. so stop judging. i wont say goodbye because the root of the word is in the old english phrase god be with you in that case dont ever say goodbye to me. its against my religion. craig c. .

From : stephen harding

stephen harding wrote i choose to believe there is something based on the incredible complexity of life and the the universe as we currently understand it. fair enough. its just too big and interconnected to have come about purely randomly as indeed current evolution says it did for life. even given gene mutation rates and an extremely long period of time it just doesnt seem to be fully random. why else a horseshoe crab that essentially hasnt changed in 200+ million years versus the evolution of humans in a mere 3 million modern humans only a 200k years! i have lots of questions like that. well i disagree. evolution adaption of biological organisms can be proven. your questions as i understand them really do not question whether evolution is fact. rather they pertain to how much evolution played a role in our current state of being. tough question .... and one that will take a very long time to answer with science. i choose to believe that we did evolve from something else. how that something else came into to existence is beyond my abilities as a scientist to prove without more concrete information. however my opinion is that my version of how i got here is much more plausible than some all powerful being that only exists in the heads of humans. evolution at least to a certain degree can be proven. god and the spirit realm cannot. if you choose to believe in that all powerful being then that is your choice and i respect that as long as you or anyone else that believes it doesnt try to cram it down my throat. well at least god brought down the gas prices of late! - craig c. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

craig c. wrote on nov 15 748 am stephen harding smhardin...@msn.com wrote the scientific method requires that one observe formulate a hypothesis on why the observation occurred and than attempt to *disprove* the hypothesis. its generally very difficult to outright prove a hypothesis so disproving it is the preferred route. first off science isnt trying to disprove the existence of god. there are too many tangible useful hypothesis to be tested ... like global warming cancer etc. i spend about 20 hours a week in the lab testing various hypothesis some mine and some others ... and i assure you proving or disproving god never enters my or anyone elses mind. trying to prove or disprove the existence of god is a complete waste of time. so is talking about it. didnt mean to imply that science had any focus on proving/disproving the existence of god. i was merely responding to someone who claimed their beliefs were based on proofs. the scientific method which has served humankind tremendously well in the past couple hundred years is unusable for this task as we agree. clearly the existence or lack thereof of a god is well outside the realm of the scientific methods service to us at least for quite a time into the future. correct. the scientific method is for proving that which pertains to matter or energy. not the fantasy of an all powerful all knowing god ... who apparently cares so little about his followers that he allows science to keep their sorry asses alive with the medical research we *have* proven using the scientific method. youve decided the concept of a supreme being is fantasy. fine for you. it is based on some sort of reasoning that a god would show more care for his sheep than appears to be the case. fair enough of an assessment. not a proof since none will probably ever be available. i choose to believe there is something based on the incredible complexity of life and the the universe as we currently understand it. its just too big and interconnected to have come about purely randomly as indeed current evolution says it did for life. even given gene mutation rates and an extremely long period of time it just doesnt seem to be fully random. why else a horseshoe crab that essentially hasnt changed in 200+ million years versus the evolution of humans in a mere 3 million modern humans only a 200k years! i have lots of questions like that. i dont believe any religion is correct in its definition of god. theyre perhaps all partially correct but way off base for the whole of it. whoa this is getting heavy now! remember back in the old days when this group talked dodge trucks what simpletons we all were back then huh indeed. my ram got a remanufactured engine 7k miles ago. never would have thought a 318 with only 150k miles would have heads so bad that they couldnt really be rebuilt so it was either brand new heads at $3200 or a jaspar remanufactured engine at $4700. the new engine gets only about 14 mpg while the original regularly got 16-17. well at least god brought down the gas prices of late! smh .

From : stephen harding

i miss his knowledge and his willing to help. -- i am so confused we have been lucky he hasnt been here in some time. you might want to check the chevy group alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks. .

From : roy

tbone wrote i am talking about eliminating tax cuts for the rich that need it the least. what tax cuts you mean the removal of the massive tax hikes clinton gave us all call it what you want we still cant afford them and they have no good for average american. actually they have increased the cost of living for those that can afford it the least. people have always invested into a company with the expectation of high returns. no people invested into a company with the hopes of high returns. hmm..your answer is the same thing i said..oh hope instead of expectations. too funny. there is a big difference between expectations and hope although i can see where you would not understand it. if the only way for these companies to grow is to screw its employees and customers then yes i want to crush its growth and the idiots who run it. and the employees as well as they will be the one hardest hit by your absurd logic. more complete crap and right wing fear tactics. exactly and who controlls that why big companies imagine that. big companies control consumer demand more warped liberal logic gone berzerk. no they control the market as far as employment goes. cutting jobs massive outsourcing and hiring illegal serves a double purpose. it reduces costs up front and increases the number of people looking for fewer jobs which makes it much easier for them to screw over the employees. sorry miles. but your lame spin missed its mark. just my point the rich will simply increase the cost of everything and their own salaries as well and if they continue to do this then they need to pay for the results since they are the ones responsible for it to begin with. so youre admitting that market supply and demand is what determines price of goods whether you like it or not. no it is the lack of competition and monopolies that determines the price of goods. when there is no competition it is real easy to set the price where they want it especially when it is a needed good. the only way to stop that is to have massive regulations price controls wage controls etc. you wont admit it but thats basically what communism is all about. more typical right wing load of crap. sorry miles but the world is not black and white like your simple right wing mind seems to comprehend things. regualtions and limits can be put on some things and have it still a far cry from communism or anything like it. here we go again. please give me a list of jobs that require no skills at all how much should a walmart door greeter be paid should it be enough to afford a house 2 cars food kids etc no but it should be enough for a small apartment some form of transportation and food provided it is a full time position. more complete bullshit. they will invest where they can get the best return for the least risk and foreign investments just about always have a significant increase in risk. and btw small growing companies almost always have a significantly higher rate of return. small companies almost always have higher risk. high returns come at a higher risk but the risk is still less than foreign investments where you are dealing with the health of the company currency shifts and the possibility of nationalization making your investment disappear. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on thu 16 nov 2006 001145 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on wed 15 nov 2006 172522 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on wed 15 nov 2006 015542 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote you sure have made some strange statements then considering that you dont know him and have not read what he has written. like the one about how many of the members here are more intolerant than budd. how do you come to make that sort of statement without admittedly.......by you you dont even know what has been said or written honestly kind of sounds like your ass over loaded your mouth on this one. ive seen budds postings many times in the past. just that i dont know him personally. as for intollerance budd would have to be extremely intollerant to be worse than a good number of the posters on this topic who are totally intollerant of the christian viewpoint. examples remove my name and abot 3 others fromthe list of those who have posted on the subject and youve pretty well got the list. i dont have a dodge truck anymore so i dont really have a horse in this race anyway so good bye. im out here. talk about a drive by.... .

From : Annonymous

bye budd -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on thu 16 nov 2006 001145 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on wed 15 nov 2006 172522 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on wed 15 nov 2006 015542 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote you sure have made some strange statements then considering that you dont know him and have not read what he has written. like the one about how many of the members here are more intolerant than budd. how do you come to make that sort of statement without admittedly.......by you you dont even know what has been said or written honestly kind of sounds like your ass over loaded your mouth on this one. ive seen budds postings many times in the past. just that i dont know him personally. as for intollerance budd would have to be extremely intollerant to be worse than a good number of the posters on this topic who are totally intollerant of the christian viewpoint. examples remove my name and abot 3 others fromthe list of those who have posted on the subject and youve pretty well got the list. i dont have a dodge truck anymore so i dont really have a horse in this race anyway so good bye. im out here. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on wed 15 nov 2006 215839 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on thu 16 nov 2006 001145 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on wed 15 nov 2006 172522 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on wed 15 nov 2006 015542 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote you sure have made some strange statements then considering that you dont know him and have not read what he has written. like the one about how many of the members here are more intolerant than budd. how do you come to make that sort of statement without admittedly.......by you you dont even know what has been said or written honestly kind of sounds like your ass over loaded your mouth on this one. ive seen budds postings many times in the past. just that i dont know him personally. as for intollerance budd would have to be extremely intollerant to be worse than a good number of the posters on this topic who are totally intollerant of the christian viewpoint. examples remove my name and abot 3 others fromthe list of those who have posted on the subject and youve pretty well got the list. i dont have a dodge truck anymore so i dont really have a horse in this race anyway so good bye. im out here. well again clare.......examples. not accusations but provide some examples of your statement. who has been totally intollerant of the christian viewpoint that is a pretty clear statement im just asking for some proof. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

win a race this year toyota 12 wins ford 7 wins chevey 5 wins one race to go! what race beekeep -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

is katherine trimble an envy racist bigot a person mistakenly think that shes in his friend list. however rather than denying it shell simply give a friendly reply. hi my friends name many thanks for your message. remind me what *** is again there are some networks that i simply dont bother with anymore. best wishes katherine such mutual communication automatically make each person in the friend list of another in a social networking site. not suspicious of any problem the person then build his business network in a friendly manner to many of those in his list which unfortunately include the old hag. soon the beldam is engaged in serious slandering campaign the person. she claimed that never communicated at all with the person which is false. she claimed that the person is spamming the claim that does not match the official rule. she also claimed that the person is pretending to be her friend to get her friends. the accusation is absurd. who the hell does she think she is that anyone would pretend to be her friend what makes her so arrogant what sort of idiot cannot tell a different between someone trying to be friendly to many people and someone trying to fraudulently get extra credibility by pretending to be someones friend thinking this is just a friendly misunderstanding the person simply explained to katherine i dont mind your comments about me as long as it is true. so keep in mind that we did chat in a friendly way and we were indeed in each other network which you can check before saying anything about me. also *******s definition of spamming is trying to sell something without intent to network which is far from what i do. ill try to get both of us disconnected. ...you could have understood and tell me privately like peter did. then we could have really been friend. its a tragedy but i got 400+ other friends to concentrate on. the beldam didnt stop. she got even madder. she kept making many false claims. she claimed that the person is a robot with no public information. she said that she had never communicated in any way to the person. she tried to portray that the person has some fraudulent intent friendless and that nobody trust the person. she claimed that the person is a nazi. all these are over a few friendly gestures to her friends. now put your self in the persons shoe. what can he do to make her leave him alone expert analysis suggests racism as her real motives. the person is asian and katherine is white. she kept doing so after being told about the fallacy of the claim. its not until the truth is published that her tone start changing. then she raised totally different issues. that didnt left not many amicable options to deal with this kind. guess she knew all along that the claim were false. she just didnt expect anyone would publish the contrary. shes a time bomb. she had gone the extra miles condemning a person for a few slight friendly gesture well never know what shell do to anyone. it seems that her other much related real motive is best explained by her very own words i do not like the way you ramp up your connections its quite unfortunate that the world is filled with envy vermins that just get this thing against those more successful than them. the truth is theyre simply uncompetitive. hence they craft lies and prejudices against those who are. thats why we have so many nonsenses justifying prohibition against so many consensual acts. some have reasonable cases. most can be appeased. but some like the beldam should get the fuck out of the gene pool for good along with all her kind for the sake of prosperity for all before they form another nazi party. its very stupid trying to reason to such bigots for the same reason we dont reason or negotiate with mosquitoes and germs. we just get rid them. more effortlessly we should set one of the vermin as a sample to show the rest their proper place. they hit we hit harder; those maggots dont deserver higher level of communication. currently our world is filled with unfair misery given to those who are honestly successful. the mere acts of making honest money are punishable by tax. getting many chicks is also condemned. yet we have to lock our doors in fear that someone will steal our properties because governments protect thieves. unless those who run the fastest also hit the hardest success will then simply be a bridge to gas chamber. even if we let the worthless die and kill parasites the market will take care of everything anyway. believing otherwise is practicing envy bigotry. yet capitalists out of benevolence have given more and more to those who oppress them. only capitalists patiently give the other cheek and repay hatred and genocide with aids and helps often to ungrateful angry mobs. when vermins like katherine keeps being influential it should be about time all of us to stop playi

From : Annonymous

sounds like good stuff but is it compatible with the pink blinker fluid ronnie wrote tom lawrence wrote if this is the same unit as the ignition switch i recently replaced it wasnt hard at all even for a layperson. same excavation procedure but the mfs is on the opposite side of the column as the ignition switch. the hardest part was indeed getting the steering wheel covers screwed in right. when you remove the screws initially remember to note which screw goes in which hole. when i take things like that apart for the first time and theres lots of different-sized fasteners i take little pieces of duct tape and tape the screw over or next to the hole it came out of. this makes a world of difference re-assembling especially if you take a few days before putting it back together. hey i like the tape procedure. ill try that. the shop just called and i need a new radiator. he said sometimes they only last 100k miles. i have 95k. i had the system flushed last year. oh well. ronnies problem may be as simple as needing new blinker fluid made by kale automotive http//tinyurl.com/8lsb7. you can thank me later! ;^ bryan .

From : roy

hi tbone thanks for the detailed description. i am a little ahead on part of it as this morning i did a load test on the battery with the positive and negative on the battery then with the negative on the end of the negative cable near the alternator and finally with the negative on a bolt on the air conditioner compressor. all three times it showed good under test load. i have parked the truck on the concrete apron this evening so will see whats what in the morning. as you point out it is a bummer to test as it usually starts after about the third try. since it has so far always started ok when hot i am not too worried. i checked the local dodge stealer this morning and they quoted $85 for one hour and $345 for the starter. not going to happen here. grin its weird that it only does it cold though. i have zero problem with it other than first time in the morning. even after it has been sitting for 3 or 4 hours during the day it still starts fine. this may just be coincidental but this morning when i got to the third try i turned the key to on but did not go straight to start. i waited about 10 seconds to see if the check engine light went out and when it did i turned the key to start and it fired up. not sure if that means anything or not. we shall see what tomorrow brings. thanks again for the help very much appreciated. dave tbone wrote you will need someone to help you perform these tests. first put a volt .

From : tbone

what was their reasoning for a cat scan generally speaking mris tend give more information on joint/muscle/etc function. just curious work in the medical imaging field - agreed mris are the way to go. but many years ago there was a situation much like today when our government involved us in a war. i had the good fortune to pick up a bunch of extra metal that was best left for me to lug around. so me and a magnet wont play well together. roy -lint roy wrote hey roy. keep us informed about your shoulder. like i said previously ive had 8 surgeries in the last 10 years in an attempt to correct mine. now they are wanting to do a total replacement of the shoulder joint. im not so sure i want it done. everytime they have gone in they have messed it up even more. im afraid of losing the use of my left arm. anyway im curious as to what they recommend for you. bob did a cat scan with dye injected today. that was fun. see the doc friday to discuss the results and next step. r .

From : stephen harding

stephen harding wrote generally its easier to prove something isnt rather than something is so deriving a proof that there isnt a god should be an easier task to accomplish. thats backwards logic. you cant prove or disprove a thought. .

From : 9dodgefan

roy wrote was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. heres our hero http//www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/georgerag.swf .

From : miles

thanks very much for the site. i will print it off and have a friend take alook at it because he wasnt sure what it was w/out alittle help from info. thanks again .

From : craig c

jack white wrote hey roy. keep us informed about your shoulder. like i said previously ive had 8 surgeries in the last 10 years in an attempt to correct mine. now they are wanting to do a total replacement of the shoulder joint. im not so sure i want it done. everytime they have gone in they have messed it up even more. im afraid of losing the use of my left arm. anyway im curious as to what they recommend for you. bob .

From : stephen harding

tbone wrote when is enough enough when it comes to what they take from society according to you its not enough until they are crushed into submission and punished to your liking. once again you are unable to answer even a simple question. actually what would improve that would be a graduated system for this tax itself. under a certain item value there would be no tax and as the value increases so does the tax percentage on it. we already have various luxury taxes on many items. it doesnt always solve the issue intended. oh really. and what exactly is the issue it intended to solve it has to be balanced with the economy the particular items market serves. in otherwords an items value is relative to other items in the same market. and where exactly would you form these breakdown and by what criteria you cant say tax everything higher that costs more than x $s. why not it has to be a higher tax on higher priced items in a given market. a $200000 car should be taxed higher than a $200000 house. i agree with you but also feel that it would be far to complicated to implement and be far to subject to corruption. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : stephen harding

miles wrote stephen harding wrote generally its easier to prove something isnt rather than something is so deriving a proof that there isnt a god should be an easier task to accomplish. thats backwards logic. you cant prove or disprove a thought. whats to prove a thought is a thought. a manifestation of a cerebral state i suppose. i wasnt arguing one can/cant prove of disprove a thought merely the existence or non-existence of god. the scientific method requires that one observe formulate a hypothesis on why the observation occurred and than attempt to *disprove* the hypothesis. its generally very difficult to outright prove a hypothesis so disproving it is the preferred route. clearly the existence or lack thereof of a god is well outside the realm of the scientific methods service to us at least for quite a time into the future. whoa this is getting heavy now! remember back in the old days when this group talked dodge trucks what simpletons we all were back then huh smh .

From : stephen harding

theguy@whatever.net wrote the whole thing needs to be redone simplified and made more fair. that is what you two should argue for. lets get the pos code written again and done right this time. i agree. it needs to be fair. however tbones concept of fair is anything but. his view is to crush and destroy anyone who has more than his perceived level of enough. more horse shit and false accusations. the fact that you cant seem to see any level of enough for any single entity shows your shows your level of greed and complete lack of concern for anything but yourself. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : john kunkel

on tue 14 nov 2006 145158 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote clare wrote the kettle black - yall are every bit as intollerant as budd is. and perhaps moreso. youre crackin me up. hmmmm..... they seem to have a lot of common both use the same mail program as well. he wouldnt...........would he doubtful but..................... craig c. .

From : tbone

generally its easier to prove something isnt rather than something is so deriving a proof that there isnt a god should be an easier task to accomplish. your pedantic utterings are the epitome of verbal masturbation. .

From : Annonymous

and i havent heard from budd in a while i wonder..... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving clare wrote the kettle black - yall are every bit as intollerant as budd is. and perhaps moreso. youre crackin me up. hmmmm..... they seem to have a lot of common both use the same mail program as well. craig c. .

From : roy

theguy@whatever.net wrote he wouldnt...........would he budds wifes name isnt clare is it if so that ole fart just pulled off a doozie. - craig c. .

From : Annonymous

ronnie wrote tom lawrence wrote if this is the same unit as the ignition switch i recently replaced it wasnt hard at all even for a layperson. same excavation procedure but the mfs is on the opposite side of the column as the ignition switch. the hardest part was indeed getting the steering wheel covers screwed in right. when you remove the screws initially remember to note which screw goes in which hole. when i take things like that apart for the first time and theres lots of different-sized fasteners i take little pieces of duct tape and tape the screw over or next to the hole it came out of. this makes a world of difference re-assembling especially if you take a few days before putting it back together. hey i like the tape procedure. ill try that. the shop just called and i need a new radiator. he said sometimes they only last 100k miles. i have 95k. i had the system flushed last year. oh well. ronnies problem may be as simple as needing new blinker fluid made by kale automotive http//tinyurl.com/8lsb7. you can thank me later! ;^ bryan .

From : roy

earl groce egroce@mindspring.com wrote in i have a 92 dakota 4x4 auto with a 360. has the stock tape player radio. has 4 speakers i think... the stock radio is intermittent.. some times i have to turn it off and on 15 - 20 times to get it to come on. is there a radio upgrade from a later model dakota that will swap in and look right to get me a cd player.. and will it work with the 4 speaker system i dont want a fancysmancy sound system.. just a good 4 speaker radio with a cd that looks right in my truck. thanks in advance advance nc. earl ive got a raz unit from my 03 dak identical to the 02 thats sitting around collecting dust. worked perfectly last time i used it about 2 months ago; i replaced it with a new jvc hd radio. the raz has rds cassette/cd cd changer controls and of course 4 speaker outputs. if you already have steering wheel controls they should work on this unit as my dak had them. e-mail to 97strat-at- gmail-dot-com if youre interested. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on tue 14 nov 2006 202512 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on tue 14 nov 2006 125505 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 13 nov 2006 144332 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 202804 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 132303 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote not the point. why does everybody get bent out of shape because someone talks about christian values if they espouse the same values themselves do you believe that what budd has been doing is merely espouseing values if so we are not reading the same posts not saying you do but many do. it is because they dont want to admit there may be a god and that he might be relevant today and that perhaps they may be wrong forget that the values preceded christianity by something like 4000 years they did not precede god. anyway enough of this. yup your right. ive not read budds rants - im talkin about the rest o ya. well perhaps if you did read them it would give you a better understanding. im not standing up for budd. im just saying dont be the pot calling the kettle black - yall are every bit as intollerant as budd is. and perhaps moreso. thats bs! we listened to budds and now yours for quite some time before anything was said. after a fashion these posts verge on harrasment. no this rant was going on for so long before i came on the scene that i havent even seen budds rants. my mail server was incommunicado for several months and i just got back on at what appears to have been the tail end of budds rants. and no im not budds wife. i have a wife. and i dont know budd. you sure have made some strange statements then considering that you dont know him and have not read what he has written. like the one about how many of the members here are more intolerant than budd. how do you come to make that sort of statement without admittedly.......by you you dont even know what has been said or written honestly kind of sounds like your ass over loaded your mouth on this one. .

From : miles

on tue 14 nov 2006 125505 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 13 nov 2006 144332 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 202804 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 132303 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote not the point. why does everybody get bent out of shape because someone talks about christian values if they espouse the same values themselves do you believe that what budd has been doing is merely espouseing values if so we are not reading the same posts not saying you do but many do. it is because they dont want to admit there may be a god and that he might be relevant today and that perhaps they may be wrong forget that the values preceded christianity by something like 4000 years they did not precede god. anyway enough of this. yup your right. ive not read budds rants - im talkin about the rest o ya. well perhaps if you did read them it would give you a better understanding. im not standing up for budd. im just saying dont be the pot calling the kettle black - yall are every bit as intollerant as budd is. and perhaps moreso. thats bs! we listened to budds and now yours for quite some time before anything was said. after a fashion these posts verge on harrasment. no this rant was going on for so long before i came on the scene that i havent even seen budds rants. my mail server was incommunicado for several months and i just got back on at what appears to have been the tail end of budds rants. try google and have a look. and no im not budds wife. i have a wife. and i dont know budd. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

if this is the same unit as the ignition switch i recently replaced it wasnt hard at all even for a layperson. same excavation procedure but the mfs is on the opposite side of the column as the ignition switch. the hardest part was indeed getting the steering wheel covers screwed in right. when you remove the screws initially remember to note which screw goes in which hole. when i take things like that apart for the first time and theres lots of different-sized fasteners i take little pieces of duct tape and tape the screw over or next to the hole it came out of. this makes a world of difference re-assembling especially if you take a few days before putting it back together. .

From : tbone

suddenly without warning tom lawrence exclaimed 14-nov-06 1136 am them off and go back on and they may work 1 - 7 or 8 times and quit. is the blinkers switch in the column going bad if so how hard is it to replace yes its the multi-function switch thats shot. replacement is pretty simple. essentially you remove the trim pieces from the steering column torx screwdrivers needed then remove the multi-function switch with a security or tamper-proof torx screwdriver same as a regular torx only with a hole in the middle because the screw head has a pin in the middle. the wiring harness is screwed to the switch so youll remove that screw as well. getting the steering column trim pieces to all line up upon re-assembly will probably be the trickiest part of the job. just dont tighten any screws until the pieces all fit together. before doing this disconnect the battery and wait several minutes for the capacitors in the airbag system to discharge. accidentally setting off an airbag in your face could ruin your whole day. if this is the same unit as the ignition switch i recently replaced it wasnt hard at all even for a layperson. i had a haynes manual to work from but it didnt mention my trucks cruise control part of which had to be removed to gain access to one of the ignition switchs screws. the hardest part was indeed getting the steering wheel covers screwed in right. when you remove the screws initially remember to note which screw goes in which hole. also the torx screw size for the covers is different than the screw size for the equipment underneath. cant tell you the sizes though as mine dont say. jmc jmc .

From : john kunkel

on mon 13 nov 2006 144332 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 202804 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 132303 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote not the point. why does everybody get bent out of shape because someone talks about christian values if they espouse the same values themselves do you believe that what budd has been doing is merely espouseing values if so we are not reading the same posts not saying you do but many do. it is because they dont want to admit there may be a god and that he might be relevant today and that perhaps they may be wrong forget that the values preceded christianity by something like 4000 years they did not precede god. anyway enough of this. yup your right. ive not read budds rants - im talkin about the rest o ya. well perhaps if you did read them it would give you a better understanding. im not standing up for budd. im just saying dont be the pot calling the kettle black - yall are every bit as intollerant as budd is. and perhaps moreso. now if you didnt read budds rants then how exactly can you say this is this budd!!!! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : craig c

on mon 13 nov 2006 135235 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote youre absolutely correct and that illustrates the fallacy of you challenging others to disprove your faith. by your own word you admit that your beliefs cannot be proven. my beliefs can be proven to be true for me -by my experience. that does not transfer to you. and im not asking anyone to disprove my beliefs. im just challenging those who believe my beliefs are wrong to prove theirs. they believe there is no god can they prove there is no god no. so why should i need to prove there is. as i stated earlier the burden of proof lies with the individual making the claim not the doubter. if you want to believe in something with no physical being you are free to do so but when you want your beliefs to be the basis of government you must prove the existence of your god before expecting others to live by his/her teachings. that is the gist of this thread and the one that spawned it its not about the existence or non-existence of god but it is about believers forcing their views on non-believers by interjecting religion into government. they believe the bible is fiction. can they prove it no they can not. can i prove it is truth 100% beyond the shadow of any doubt no. but the fact that in many ways it has been proven to be historically accurate new testament at any rate means there is a better chance it is true than that it is not. margaret mitchell wrote the novel gone with the wind. it is based on a known historical period and some of the events are historically accurate. does that mean there actually was a plantation called tara does that prove that there was a real-life character called rhett butler or scarett ohara using your logic partial accuracy in the novel means there is a better chance it is true than that it is not. .

From : roy

hey roy. keep us informed about your shoulder. like i said previously ive had 8 surgeries in the last 10 years in an attempt to correct mine. now they are wanting to do a total replacement of the shoulder joint. im not so sure i want it done. everytime they have gone in they have messed it up even more. im afraid of losing the use of my left arm. anyway im curious as to what they recommend for you. bob .

From : clare at snyder on ca

engine was pressure washed a few weeks ago to clean the off that was leaking from the valve covers. ran fine up until then. now it will rough idle when parked and not at all when in gear. i have replaced the cap and rotor plugs and wires. also put stp gas treatment in tank to help with any water in gas. what else can i do thanks scott clean and blow out any electrical connectors under the hood. make sure the pressure washer didnt break any vacuum hoses or connectors. make sure nothing got unplugged during the pressure washing operation. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

ive been told that even grand cherokee and mini van radios will work.... are the delux sound system radios plug and play in a dakota with only 4 speakers cobraearl on tue 14 nov 2006 171605 gmt bigironram not@home.com wrote i have a 92 dakota 4x4 auto with a 360. has the stock tape player radio. has 4 speakers i think... the stock radio is intermittent.. some times i have to turn it off and on 15 - 20 times to get it to come on. is there a radio upgrade from a later model dakota that will swap in and look right to get me a cd player.. and will it work with the 4 speaker system i dont want a fancysmancy sound system.. just a good 4 speaker radio with a cd that looks right in my truck. thanks in advance advance nc. earl 1984 to 2001 2002 are pretty much plug and play. the wiring hooks up and works fine. there are some different part numbers for infiniti radios it doesnt seem to matter when its retro-fitted to something else. the very basic am/fm/cassette players show up on ebay pretty regular and cheap. the upscale sales code rbn with changer controls and cassette but no player and raz with player and cassette but no changer controls command pretty good money $100 $200 ish on ebay. there is another am/fm cd player w/o cassette i cant recall the sales code for. i have one of them works fine except the display is dark 99% of the time... ive resisted aftermarket radios because of the dearth of selection in the factory 1.5 din size. i now have a single din alpine because of the new functions not available in the factory radios. i still dont like the look but satellite radio is pretty nice. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on mon 13 nov 2006 135235 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote on mon 13 nov 2006 061825 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote clare at snyder.on.ca wrote prove that the inherent universal concepts of right and wrong are not instilled by the allmighty. prove that the old testament is wrong. prove that christ was not the son of god and that he did not die to absolve all who believe of the guilt of their sins. youre asking for proof against your beliefs in an attempt to prove them right. my neighbors 4 year old has an invisible friend she plays with. since nobody can prove this invisible friend doesnt exist it therefore must per your logic nobody is attempting to prove you wrong. they are your beliefs. it is when you attempt to impose your beliefs onto others that the tolerance stops. keep your beliefs where they belong...with you. not trying to impose any beliefs on anyone - just noting that any belief that cannot be proven has to be taken on faith. . youre absolutely correct and that illustrates the fallacy of you challenging others to disprove your faith. by your own word you admit that your beliefs cannot be proven. my beliefs can be proven to be true for me -by my experience. that does not transfer to you. and im not asking anyone to disprove my beliefs. im just challenging those who believe my beliefs are wrong to prove theirs. they believe there is no god can they prove there is no god no. so why should i need to prove there is. they believe the bible is fiction. can they prove it no they can not. can i prove it is truth 100% beyond the shadow of any doubt no. but the fact that in many ways it has been proven to be historically accurate new testament at any rate means there is a better chance it is true than that it is not. they believe there are no eternal rammifications to living their own life the way they see fit - with no higher power. can they prove they are right not in this life - but if they are wrong and there is an eternity theyll find out when time runs out. at that point perhaps there will be incontrivertible proof one way or the other. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

my 2000 dodge ram 1500 has a 3inch body with 35inch mud rovers from dunlop. i was wondering if anybody with a 2000 ram 1500 had any cheap lifts or combined lift parts that would make a 4-5 inch lift for under $900. i looking cheap because money is scarce and would like to fit about 38 inch used tsls under it. any replays are great. .

From : tbone

i would go to www.crutchfield.com and see what they have. order their catalog and itll be even easier. the catalog will tell you what will and will not fit your truck. ive ordered a lot of car stereos and speakers from them. they will send you all the stuff you need for free to install the radio including all instructions. youll have to be able to be able to follow a wiring diagram to adapt the stock wiring harness to the new radio wiring harnesses the wiring diagram and connectors are included again for free. if this is over your head youll probably need to buy a radio from dodge at a much higher cost. ive no connection with crutchfield. just a very satisfied customer. at one time after buying two car stereos and two sets of speakers they gave me a years subscription to road and track. it wasnt advertised i just started receiving the magazine with a letter stating it was a gift subscription from them. dave young earl groce wrote i have a 92 dakota 4x4 auto with a 360. has the stock tape player radio. has 4 speakers i think... the stock radio is intermittent.. some times i have to turn it off and on 15 - 20 times to get it to come on. is there a radio upgrade from a later model dakota that will swap in and look right to get me a cd player.. and will it work with the 4 speaker system i dont want a fancysmancy sound system.. just a good 4 speaker radio with a cd that looks right in my truck. thanks in advance advance nc. earl .

From : miles

i have a 92 dakota 4x4 auto with a 360. has the stock tape player radio. has 4 speakers i think... the stock radio is intermittent.. some times i have to turn it off and on 15 - 20 times to get it to come on. is there a radio upgrade from a later model dakota that will swap in and look right to get me a cd player.. and will it work with the 4 speaker system i dont want a fancysmancy sound system.. just a good 4 speaker radio with a cd that looks right in my truck. thanks in advance advance nc. earl .

From : miles

john kunkel wrote your beliefs can be proven prove that the inherent universal concepts of right and wrong are not instilled by the allmighty. prove that the old testament is wrong. prove that christ was not the son of god and that he did not die to absolve all who believe of the guilt of their sins. you obviously dont understand the concept of burden of proof. the individual making a claim bears the burden of proof so in the absence of physical evodence its up to believers to prove the above. were talking personal beliefs not a scientific journal article. if you have a belief than it must at be provable or at least reasonable or possible to you. what it is to anyone else is irrelevant and no one is under a burden to prove a belief to anyone much less one that is unprovable. i might reiterate what another poster said proof of a god or of the lack of a god is largely impossible. these are beliefs and as such are not proven. generally its easier to prove something isnt rather than something is so deriving a proof that there isnt a god should be an easier task to accomplish. actually this is incorrect. it is just about impossible to prove that something isnt because just because you havent seen it doesnt mean that it didnt or doesnt happen. to prove something is only requires that you see and verify it and although this can be extremely difficult at times it is still easier than proving something never happened since we currently dont have the ability of time travel. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : stephen harding

stephen harding wrote i regard myself as among the faithful in that i think there probably is something like a god in this universe although i doubt any religion really has a handle on the way it truly is and i have no problem with a 4 billion old solar system/earth. the bible says it cant be 4 billion years old according to our resident scholar here. of course it changes. the catholic church accepts the sun being at the center of the solar system. the fact that it at one time did not means simply that humans are error prone and worse. my point was that at the time their religion was based on their belief the earth was the center. it was a fundamental principal in their belief. we see that same thing with todays religions. to them the earth can not possibly be older than about 8000 years. they make no room at all for the possibility they are wrong. they turn their back on anything that suggests they are wrong. just as happened in prior cultures and religions that are long gone. .

From : miles

john kunkel wrote your beliefs can be proven prove that the inherent universal concepts of right and wrong are not instilled by the allmighty. prove that the old testament is wrong. prove that christ was not the son of god and that he did not die to absolve all who believe of the guilt of their sins. you obviously dont understand the concept of burden of proof. the individual making a claim bears the burden of proof so in the absence of physical evodence its up to believers to prove the above. were talking personal beliefs not a scientific journal article. if you have a belief than it must at be provable or at least reasonable or possible to you. what it is to anyone else is irrelevant and no one is under a burden to prove a belief to anyone much less one that is unprovable. i might reiterate what another poster said proof of a god or of the lack of a god is largely impossible. these are beliefs and as such are not proven. generally its easier to prove something isnt rather than something is so deriving a proof that there isnt a god should be an easier task to accomplish. smh .

From : john kunkel

having balls would be going into pakastan and getting the sob behind the wtc disaster. yeah in all this the forgotten fact is that clinton went after the guy..... bush has lost the trail for some reason. my take we know where he is bush is holding the trigger until it becomes politically advantageous. hell bin laden may already be dead. but a dead bin laden means this little escapade has to end and bush would have to address domestic policy. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author on sun 12 nov 2006 143927 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote lol and this is our militaries commander and chief. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. one left a woman to drown in his car while he walked off in a drunken stupor and the other spent his tour in nam collecting sham purple hearts with which to begin his career in politics and ol ankle pants who dodged the draft i might add spent his time in the oval office collecting blowjobs rather that catch and kill those who bombed the wtc the first time...yeah now those folks you gotta admire..... sheesh! mike having balls would be going into pakastan and getting the sob behind the wtc disaster. beekeep .

From : john kunkel

having balls would be going into pakastan and getting the sob behind the wtc disaster. yeah in all this the forgotten fact is that clinton went after the guy..... bush has lost the trail for some reason. my take we know where he is bush is holding the trigger until it becomes politically advantageous. hell bin laden may already be dead. but a dead bin laden means this little escapade has to end and bush would have to address domestic policy. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author on sun 12 nov 2006 143927 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote lol and this is our militaries commander and chief. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. one left a woman to drown in his car while he walked off in a drunken stupor and the other spent his tour in nam collecting sham purple hearts with which to begin his career in politics and ol ankle pants who dodged the draft i might add spent his time in the oval office collecting blowjobs rather that catch and kill those who bombed the wtc the first time...yeah now those folks you gotta admire..... sheesh! mike having balls would be going into pakastan and getting the sob behind the wtc disaster. beekeep .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sun 12 nov 2006 202804 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 132303 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote not the point. why does everybody get bent out of shape because someone talks about christian values if they espouse the same values themselves do you believe that what budd has been doing is merely espouseing values if so we are not reading the same posts not saying you do but many do. it is because they dont want to admit there may be a god and that he might be relevant today and that perhaps they may be wrong forget that the values preceded christianity by something like 4000 years they did not precede god. anyway enough of this. yup your right. ive not read budds rants - im talkin about the rest o ya. well perhaps if you did read them it would give you a better understanding. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

you misunderstand the crux of my post. im not saying bush is better because clinton/kerry/kennedy are bums whuch they are!. im just saying that bush at least had the balls to do something rather than sit on his as and pontificate. its easy to sit on ones ass and armchair quaterback. coulda shoulda is an easy game to play and it seemed to become increasingly popular in the last election cycle. 1 bush wasnt the only one to do something clinton worked on the issue as well 2 the something that bush did was too late as has been documented by numerous sources. 3 the something that bush did after hitting the taliban was misguided and assinine. 4 coulda shoulda was played in regard to iraq well before the actual invasion. bush coulda shoulda done better and his military advisors agree with that statement. when the military uses its right of free speech and publishes statements opposing the administration; when generals testify before congress opposing the administration; when congressmen who are dyed in the wool military and veterans themselves start opposing the administration its well past coulda shoulda and into heres yer sign. im a conservative democrat. i did not vote for kerry. i stated that iraq was a mess before bush sent troops in. i predicted that n. korea would be a bigger problem. i stated that iraq was in terms of how to deal with them would be better off under a predictable jackass than under a wavering democracy. despite all that i figured bush was the best choice in 2004. but because of all that i knew he wasnt the best our country has to offer. he has proven that in astounding clarity. those who derive glee from the results of the election will soon find their joy turned to horror as tradiional american values are discarded in the interest of the pc crowd and their supporters who are poised to assume control of this countrys legislature. yall may be happy with the future i for one am not. i blame the results of this election directly on the republican disregard for reality particularly george w. bush. in my district we elected a conservative democrat to replace the traditional american values don sherwood who had a five year affair with a sloppy mistress. at some point he choked her and she retaliated by filing a $5.5 million lawsuit. he settled out of court for $500k awarding the bulk of the cash after the election so she would keep quiet. if this is the traditional american values that the democrats will do away with i support their cause. rick santorum was voted out as well. santorum had a history of taking conservatism to fascist levels. it is one thing to support family values it is quite another to condemn a person for anything not found in the catholic value system. santorum made no secret of his hatred yeah thats right of gays. however its a well known fact that gay men are generally conservative in their daily lives and particularly with their real estate and business ventures. communities have been known to actively invite gay men to buy land as they keep it well and their businesses thrive because they run them well. sadly the republicans took the family values to levels that failed to take into account that most americans dont give a damn about what the neighbor does in his bedroom. and thats all im gonna say about that... sorry to hear that since youve generally got good stuff. on this however youve missed exactly what most republicans have.... american values dont include the hatred of americans. despite the crap we normally throw at each other this was well said. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : stephen harding

and one of dcs dumbest is putting 9 drum brakes on on a 5.2 dakota 4x4. lots of power to get it going but try to stop it with a full load! which can be more carry capacity then ram 1500 with hd package but you get real brakes with that or 1500. i vote yes for the crd diesel dakota too the liberty crd is a real stump puller untill its wound up. one of the dumbest things gm ever did similar to putting 9 drum brakes on the gto in 64. .

From : miles

i know this is a dumb questions but i did not get a owners manual when i bought this truck. where is the light that tells you if you are in 4wd or not. what activates the light. thanks .

From : roy

do you by chance have one for a 1998 ram or 2000 durango curtis i sent them today via regular mail. i .

From : miles

you misunderstand the crux of my post. im not saying bush is better because clinton/kerry/kennedy are bums whuch they are!. im just saying that bush at least had the balls to do something rather than sit on his as and pontificate. its easy to sit on ones ass and armchair quaterback. coulda shoulda is an easy game to play and it seemed to become increasingly popular in the last election cycle. 1 bush wasnt the only one to do something clinton worked on the issue as well 2 the something that bush did was too late as has been documented by numerous sources. 3 the something that bush did after hitting the taliban was misguided and assinine. 4 coulda shoulda was played in regard to iraq well before the actual invasion. bush coulda shoulda done better and his military advisors agree with that statement. when the military uses its right of free speech and publishes statements opposing the administration; when generals testify before congress opposing the administration; when congressmen who are dyed in the wool military and veterans themselves start opposing the administration its well past coulda shoulda and into heres yer sign. im a conservative democrat. i did not vote for kerry. i stated that iraq was a mess before bush sent troops in. i predicted that n. korea would be a bigger problem. i stated that iraq was in terms of how to deal with them would be better off under a predictable jackass than under a wavering democracy. despite all that i figured bush was the best choice in 2004. but because of all that i knew he wasnt the best our country has to offer. he has proven that in astounding clarity. those who derive glee from the results of the election will soon find their joy turned to horror as tradiional american values are discarded in the interest of the pc crowd and their supporters who are poised to assume control of this countrys legislature. yall may be happy with the future i for one am not. i blame the results of this election directly on the republican disregard for reality particularly george w. bush. in my district we elected a conservative democrat to replace the traditional american values don sherwood who had a five year affair with a sloppy mistress. at some point he choked her and she retaliated by filing a $5.5 million lawsuit. he settled out of court for $500k awarding the bulk of the cash after the election so she would keep quiet. if this is the traditional american values that the democrats will do away with i support their cause. rick santorum was voted out as well. santorum had a history of taking conservatism to fascist levels. it is one thing to support family values it is quite another to condemn a person for anything not found in the catholic value system. santorum made no secret of his hatred yeah thats right of gays. however its a well known fact that gay men are generally conservative in their daily lives and particularly with their real estate and business ventures. communities have been known to actively invite gay men to buy land as they keep it well and their businesses thrive because they run them well. sadly the republicans took the family values to levels that failed to take into account that most americans dont give a damn about what the neighbor does in his bedroom. and thats all im gonna say about that... sorry to hear that since youve generally got good stuff. on this however youve missed exactly what most republicans have.... american values dont include the hatred of americans. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. unfortunately there is plenty of documentation to support clintons claim of having tried to do something about bin laden. kerry was never president so you cannot fault him for something he never had a chance to do and kennedy falls into the same category. one left a woman to drown in his car while he walked off in a drunken stupor ya know it baffles me why republicans keep pointing to this guy as a defense for bush or any other republican. seriously mike wtf i hate kennedys assinine politics and his rhetorical rants and the fact that he is a jackass on many levels. but really after what 30 friggin years republicans are still measuring how well their guys do against this bar im sorry i expect a bit more than better than ted kennedy out of any office holder. and the other spent his tour in nam collecting sham purple hearts with which to begin his career in politics and ol ankle pants who dodged the draft i might add spent his time in the oval office collecting blowjob

From : Annonymous

theguy@whatever.net wrote in on sun 12 nov 2006 222354 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 143927 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote lol and this is our militaries commander and chief. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. balls nonsense. it was his pure and simple hard-headedness that made him go in. big difference between having balls and being just plain stubborn. on that i agree completely with you. we have every right to protect ourselves from terrorists. exactly. but our presence in iraq is protecting us from terrorists i think not. the manner that the war has been fought however is self defeating. this country does not have the toughness to withstand a long campaign. let alone an invalid one that we cant afford. we learned or should have learned that from vietnam. the bad guys can just hold us off and beat us in the media. unfortunately the choice is to win it quickly with a lot of innocent casualties and carnage or to lose it by being drawn into a long drawn out struggle but limitting the carnage and innocent casualties. im not so sure that this is a rant against bush as much as a rant against the discipline in our country. bush as the commander-in-chief is not doing his job well. thats the rant. at the same time bushs policies within this country have not been well thought out. understatement of the year. snip .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sun 12 nov 2006 160833 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on sun 12 nov 2006 132303 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote suddenly without warning clare at snyder.on.ca exclaimed 12-nov-06 1018 am there is no such thing as a christian nation and the moral life im most ways follows the christian values whether that is your reasoning or not. if you accept the values why the hangup about religion. christianity is not a religion in the first place - it is a way of life and a relationship to god. a religion is man reaching for god. christianity is god reached down to man. yes i am aware of that. but christianity doesnt have some sort of monopoly on moral values. they were around long before christianity or even jesus christ. other religions include these values in their tenets as well. a person isnt automatically a christian because they believe in a god and have a decent moral code. ive even known extremely moral people who are atheists. so you dont even have to believe in a god to lead a moral life. jmc not the point. why does everybody get bent out of shape because someone talks about christian values if they espouse the same values themselves not saying you do but many do. it is because they dont want to admit there may be a god and that he might be relevant today and that perhaps they may be wrong forget that the values preceded christianity by something like 4000 years they did not precede god. anyway enough of this. thank you. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sun 12 nov 2006 143927 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote lol and this is our militaries commander and chief. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. one left a woman to drown in his car while he walked off in a drunken stupor and the other spent his tour in nam collecting sham purple hearts with which to begin his career in politics and ol ankle pants who dodged the draft i might add spent his time in the oval office collecting blowjobs rather that catch and kill those who bombed the wtc the first time...yeah now those folks you gotta admire..... sheesh! mike now mike you misspelled oral office. beekeep .

From : jmc

is this the start of yet another ot conversation jmc of course it is.....doesnt every conversation end ot -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : john kunkel

lol and this is our militaries commander and chief. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. one left a woman to drown in his car while he walked off in a drunken stupor and the other spent his tour in nam collecting sham purple hearts with which to begin his career in politics and ol ankle pants who dodged the draft i might add spent his time in the oval office collecting blowjobs rather that catch and kill those who bombed the wtc the first time...yeah now those folks you gotta admire..... sheesh! mike .

From : roy

itself. under a certain item value there would be no tax and as the value increases so does the tax percentage on it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 325313 ej7fck$gub$1@aioe.server.aioe.org earl groce wrote i own two 92 dakotas. one is a 3.9 5spd 232k poor brakes lots of brake fade. other is a new to me 92 4x4 auto with a 360 i installed.. it has new rotors new calipers new autozone top of the line pads i put new shoes on her yesterday. i also has poor brakes willnot slide the wheels.. lots of brake fade. is there a secret to having decent brakes on a 92 dakota earl have you bled the brakes lately do you know about bedding new pads read http//www.zeckhausen.com/bleedingbrakes.htm and http//www.zeckhausen.com/beddinginbrakes.htm -- ken .

From : roy

joe fishback wrote some time ago i remember reading here about cautions re correct factory wiring for trailer hook ups. as i recall there was a relay necessary to pevent burning up headlight switch. i have a 97 3500/cummins. i discovered the truck did not have the factory towing package. having just replaced the headlight switch. i would like to not repeat the effort. can someone refresh my memory with respect to trailer wiring. i would like to go with a 7 pin rv pigtail. i stopped at my local dealership for help. i was greeted with a blank look. not the level of help i expected from a professional. thanks in advance. http//www.dodgeram.org/tech/mods/electric/trailerwire.htm -- ken .

From : stephen harding

some time ago i remember reading here about cautions re correct factory wiring for trailer hook ups. as i recall there was a relay necessary to pevent burning up headlight switch. i have a 97 3500/cummins. i discovered the truck did not have the factory towing package. having just replaced the headlight switch. i would like to not repeat the effort. can someone refresh my memory with respect to trailer wiring. i would like to go with a 7 pin rv pigtail. i stopped at my local dealership for help. i was greeted with a blank look. not the level of help i expected from a professional. thanks in advance. .

From : stephen harding

tom lawrence wrote and what if my beliefs dont allow others to tell me to change my beliefs or tell me im wrong that was the point of the op. how can your beliefs not allow others to do as they choose who the hell are you to tell others what they can and cant say youre in effect saying that you must be allowed to pontificate any belief you desire and everyone else must accept it as fact. religous/moral beliefs always seem to end up in two extreme and opposite forms of action. at one extreme dealing with say a bona fide nazi i personally dont belief in your position that the jews are the cause of all the worlds problems and belong in extermination camps but thats just my opinion and youre perfectly free to believe and act on those beliefs as long as you dont negatively impact me. at the other extreme we have current radical islam or pretty much the same thing a few hundreds of years ago via christianity e.g. crusades protestant-catholic wars etc. etc. god demands i do something about the immoral infidel so i cut off your head. god is great! its not always easy to find that balance of action that true following of a belief system demands. too much action and you become a dangerous zealot with not enough you become nothing more than a shill. smh .

From : stephen harding

didnt see a tan wire. are the wires different on the other side of the connector they are covered and a just figured they were the same color as those of the o2 sensor. thanks ill check. tom lawrence wrote im trying to install an air/fuel monitor for my 2003 ram hemi. the wire diagrams that i have found do not match my wire colors. i have 2 white 1 black and 1 grey. i need to determine which is the signal wire. i think it is the black but need to confirm it. thanks art the signal wire is tan with a white tracer .

From : bryan

suddenly without warning clare at snyder.on.ca exclaimed 12-nov-06 1018 am there is no such thing as a christian nation and the moral life im most ways follows the christian values whether that is your reasoning or not. if you accept the values why the hangup about religion. christianity is not a religion in the first place - it is a way of life and a relationship to god. a religion is man reaching for god. christianity is god reached down to man. yes i am aware of that. but christianity doesnt have some sort of monopoly on moral values. they were around long before christianity or even jesus christ. other religions include these values in their tenets as well. a person isnt automatically a christian because they believe in a god and have a decent moral code. ive even known extremely moral people who are atheists. so you dont even have to believe in a god to lead a moral life. jmc .

From : clare at snyder on ca

ive been drivivg trucks for years on the job but never owned one. ive just purchased a 2003 ram 1500 4x4 & love it. its a pleasure to drive! one problem though. check engine light comes on after getting gas. still has some factory warrenty left but im getting tired of taking it back to the dealer to get light turned off. remove battery cable & light goes out & everythings fine until the next time i get gas! i think rubber seal on the gas cap is a bet weathered. ive applied a bit of grease to the seal as this should soften the rubber a bit and help it seal. also when the gas cap is tightened i apply downward pressure to it this enables it to be tighten a little more.... .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sat 11 nov 2006 194405 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on sat 11 nov 2006 231842 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on sat 11 nov 2006 230047 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote on fri 10 nov 2006 111515 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote no need the 1611 king james version and if you are not a christian god has already judged you but will pardon your crimes if you seek him. -- budd cochran now does that make any sense be an ax murderer all of your life and then say you believe in god and accept christ as your savior the last day of your life and be forgiven ans accepted into heaven well............not trying to offend anyone here but a thought............it makes a lot of sense in a western society that would rather be given salvation than to have to earn it. for a society that has instant everything i guess you can have instant salvation too. and you can. how sad. like judge judy says if it doesnt make sense it probably isnt true. beekeep .

From : stormin mormon

beekeep wrote on fri 10 nov 2006 111515 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote no need the 1611 king james version and if you are not a christian god has already judged you but will pardon your crimes if you seek him. now does that make any sense be an ax murderer all of your life and then say you believe in god and accept christ as your savior the last day of your life and be forgiven ans accepted into heaven like judge judy says if it doesnt make sense it probably isnt true. so much of religion is interpretation. my interpretation of ask forgiveness is to *do something about* those acts that may require forgiveness. its not good enough to simply say im sorry. you have to do something about it. if youre an axe murderer you need to stop murdering and take steps in order to redeem yourself. that effort is supposed to be what gains your forgiveness. i think this is one of the main differences between religion and modern secularism that determines morality more as social responsibly. a godless society can get away passing the buck claiming ones axe murdering tendencies are due to a father that didnt love one enough or because one grew up in a poverty crime ridden neighborhood. religion says *you* are at fault and redemption means *you* have to do something about your condition to make it right. at least thats my take on the meaning of forgiveness and redemption! smh .

From : miles

on nov 10 1006 pm jmc nogroupss...@nojodibody.homeus wrote now that its getting rfh here1 my steering has taken to clunking a bit as i turn. i can feel it and hear it. seems to be worse when its hotter. is my steering loose or something more ominous is this something a layperson can fix themselves i had a similar problem with my 2002 ram 4x4. mine sounded like a spring twisting out of kilter. it only happened when was hot outside. and only when turning left. unfortunately i never was able to figure out the problem before i sold it. 1 really...hot. 102f/38c and not even to the high yet. augh! yep ... this past texas summer wasnt too bad ... but still quite hot. i think 104f was our high. however we have had some doosies over the past decade. but global warming is just a hoax you know. - craig c. funny i thought we had been in a state of global warming since the last ice age. its all in your perspective you know *grin* -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : Annonymous

clare at snyder.on.ca wrote and there you go calling christian beliefs nonsense. that is the crux of the issue as i see it. i might say you are wrong in your beliefs if any but i do not say yours are nonsense. budd goes well beyond saying he disagrees with others beliefs. he has zero respect for anyone with differing views and thinks everyone is against him. .

From : jmc

suddenly without warning tom lawrence exclaimed 12-nov-06 715 am 4x4 but multiple clunks. okay - then we look to either the steering box itself or the intermediate shaft. grab hold of the intermediate shaft and see if you can feel any play in it. ok off to my haynes book then to find out where my intermediate shaft is. hopefully its accessible without tools. jmc .

From : roy

4x4 but multiple clunks. okay - then we look to either the steering box itself or the intermediate shaft. grab hold of the intermediate shaft and see if you can feel any play in it. .

From : Annonymous

suddenly without warning clare at snyder.on.ca exclaimed 12-nov-06 748 am on sat 11 nov 2006 095912 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote on fri 10 nov 2006 105518 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote as a christian ill tolerate your view whatever it is. i wont necessarily agree with you - but ill let you believe whatever you like as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others whether that be myself as a christian or anyone else. you dont need to prove anything to me. therein lies the crux of the issue by insisting that christian values be the law of the land you christians in general infringe upon the rights of those who dont believe such nonsense. and there you go calling christian beliefs nonsense. that is the crux of the issue as i see it. i might say you are wrong in your beliefs if any but i do not say yours are nonsense. my belief if it is so that christian values be the basis for the laws of the land is nonsense and infringes on your rights. however your belief that there should be no values as the basis of the law of the land doesnt encroach on my rights or the rights af any other person who believes there is right or wrong or that there needs to be a basis for laws see theres one of my personal annoyances. youre of course entitled to your beliefs but i strongly disagree with the thought that if something isnt based on a religion it by definition cannot be moral or right. i am not religious however i lead a moral life. im not perfect - noone is - but i try my best. i know many so-called religious people that cannot say that. as far as im concerned morality religiousness. if you are a moral person you shouldnt need religion to tell you how to behave and if you are a truly amoral person youll probably do wrong no matter how religious you are. a government therefore does not have to subscribe to a particular religion in order to create moral laws. were supposedly a christian nation now and look whats happening to our government and our laws! jmc .

From : beekeep

on sat 11 nov 2006 230047 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote on fri 10 nov 2006 111515 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote no need the 1611 king james version and if you are not a christian god has already judged you but will pardon your crimes if you seek him. -- budd cochran now does that make any sense be an ax murderer all of your life and then say you believe in god and accept christ as your savior the last day of your life and be forgiven ans accepted into heaven well............not trying to offend anyone here but a thought............it makes a lot of sense in a western society that would rather be given salvation than to have to earn it. for a society that has instant everything i guess you can have instant salvation too. like judge judy says if it doesnt make sense it probably isnt true. beekeep .

From : beekeep

on sat 11 nov 2006 090846 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 11-nov-06 349 am suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 10-nov-06 1135 am ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view there are others who will interpret the bible literally and reach different opinions on the same subjects than your own. they believe the bible is the word of god and follow it literally but not the same as you. the odd part is if they are doing so then why are they so cowardly about defending their faith who said they were i get jehovahs witnesses coming by every other week. theyre certainly not cowardly about defending their faith. id rather they not come by but i respect that spending time as a missionary is part of their faith and treat them with respect as long as they treat me with respect. have a hive of bees open and you will see how much faith they

From : beekeep

tbone wrote neither is taking the most money possible from others but that doesnt seem to bother you. why is that miles who is taking the most possible just about every upper exec in these large companies. just because someone makes a great product that people want to buy does not mean they are taking too much from someone. yea and in your fantasy world that might be true but in most cases it is not a great product it is a required product and the ones raising the cost are not usually the ones who actually make or provide it it is the rich execs running these companies and their huge salaries than need to be paid driving up the cost sometimes to the point where many of the people that actually need it cant afford it. raise their taxes sky high and they stop growing which means fewer jobs. if youre just going to tax the crap out of them for expanding then why would they more complete crap and if the jobs being created dont pay a living wage because all of the profits are going to the top few who cares if these companies grow or not. that may not have been the case a few years ago but with the ever increasing greed of people like yourself.....redistribution needs to happen to keep the country intact and functional. redistribution will cause slower growth. too high will stop it all together. without incentive to grow a company wont! this is exactly what i mean about you and your greed. the only incentive that you see to do anything is $$$$$$. maybe what we need is a limit on how big a company can grow so that competition survives. in todays world a company grows to the point that they kill all new competition ms so that the execs can stay fat and rich and this actually costs jobs and creativity. next thing liberals will want is salaries regulated by government. and with the extreme level of greed in this country of some select few i can see why. making a great product and being successful is what you define as greed. no business owners and corporate execs that pay themselves outrageous salaries while paying their workers next to nothing for the work that they do is what i define as greed. you otoh attempt to redefine this greed as success. then they will want salary based on need rather than abilities. what does this even mean good gried!! you dont know look up communism. you know the result of what grows out of socialism. what a complete load of shit. when exactly does it change from striving to achieve to just being greedy the war on the middle class has gone on long enough and this shift in power proves it. taxing the crap out of anyone who is successful removes the incentive for doing so. well since you seemed to rename greed with success that would be a good thing. it halts the very reason for growth. no it only halts one reason for growth. to bad its the only one that means anything to you. nobody is going to increase investments in growth if they will be forced to give up returns on that investment in the form of high taxes. good that will prevent companies from growing to point of becoming monopolies that kills competition and results in job losses higher prices and losses in innovation and unless the tax rate reaches or exceeds 100% they will still get a return on their investment. maybe it will even pull the compensation reigns in on these extremely overpaid ceos and corporate execs. if you want to set limits on one then you should be willing to set limits on the other and you dont. btw i have yet to see a republican or conservative set a fair limit on the amount an upper officer in a company makes in relation to the lower paid employees you know the ones that do the actual work. you seem to think it is wrong for someone to earn a return on an investment into their own company. no i think that is it is wrong for employers to screw their employees and customers to bring in an exaggerated return or for execs in large public companies to pay themselves huge salaries with no investment at all for no other reason other than they can and again screw the employees and customers to pay for it. btw how is any of this an investment however you see nothing wrong with someone investing in another company in the form of stocks and getting a decent return for retirement. if you cannot see the difference then i doubt that you are who you claim to be and how does your and those like you taking every dime you possibly can equate to investing in anything other than your own greed. your absurd logic says investing in your own company is greed. investing in another company is sound investing. i dont have a problem with someone investing in their company but ripping off the employees and customers is hardly investing in anything and anyone who puts all of their eggs in one basket is an idiot and deserves to get burned. investing in anot

From : clare at snyder on ca

them to come on over and they just got back into their car and left. beekeep . 222 325275 45565515.218024781@usenet.radix.net on fri 10 nov 2006 111515 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote no need the 1611 king james version and if you are not a christian god has already judged you but will pardon your crimes if you seek him. -- budd cochran now does that make any sense be an ax murderer all of your life and then say you believe in god and accept christ as your savior the last day of your life and be forgiven ans accepted into heaven like judge judy says if it doesnt make sense it probably isnt true. beekeep .

From : beekeep

on sat 11 nov 2006 115741 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote just for the record. believing and saying those who do not believe as you do you is wrong is not necessarily intollerance. i can dissagree with your beliefs and still respect you and tollerate you. intollerance is refusing to respect the right of someone else to be wrong. tollerance does not mean you have to adopt the thinking of those you dissagree with or compromise your own belief. if i say the bottom light of a traffic signal is green and you say it is red ill try to tell you you are mistaken but as long as you are ready and willing to stop on your green and procede on your red there is no problem and i can allow you to continue going through life believing green is red. careful i have seen traffic lights where the bottom light was red! it was an old one that only had three bulbs and you saw a yellow before green and red. beekeep .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sat 11 nov 2006 113907 -0800 bryan bryan.swadenernospam@comcast.net wrote clare at snyder.on.ca wrote just for the record. believing and saying those who do not believe as you do you is wrong is not necessarily intollerance. i can dissagree with your beliefs and still respect you and tollerate you. intollerance is refusing to respect the right of someone else to be wrong. tollerance does not mean you have to adopt the thinking of those you dissagree with or compromise your own belief. if i say the bottom light of a traffic signal is green and you say it is red ill try to tell you you are mistaken but as long as you are ready and willing to stop on your green and procede on your red there is no problem and i can allow you to continue going through life believing green is red. if you continue in your belief that green is red and drive through your green lights you are intollerant because you are forcing your mistaken beliefs on the rest of the world. i agree with your analogy. however i draw the line when someone suffers from anothers beliefs being force upon the person. in your last paragraph the person has the potential to harm others with his/her belief. bryan and your possible belief that you should be allowed to do whatever you think is right at the time does not have that potential ill just pick a few hot topics - whether they are part of my belief or yours is immaterial - sexual promiscuity hetro or homo free abortion on demand the right to grow/produce/sell/consume ilicit pharmecutetcals the right to carry dangerous/offensive weapons the whole issue of divorce/family breakdown -- none of these have potential to do harm you dont live in the same world i do if you truly believe that. have you not heard of the aids epedemic ive lived in africa where it is rampant - and do you know why it is africa as a whole is the most promiscous society on earth. then they believe the way to cure aids is to have sexual relations with a virgin and the likelihood of finding a virgin of any age over 12 is getting remote in many parts of the continent. so rape in general and rape of children in particular is the growing result of those beliefs being forced on the society. no harm being done closer to home just look at the inner cities of just about anywhere in north america. family values are virtually non-existant - particularly you can check the facts - im not being discriminatory with the american urban black. the breakdown of the family unit due to the lack of a moral compass and this also leads to the lack of that moral compass is not causing harm give your head a shake. im not saying you must believe as i do --- im just saying do not discount christian values as irrelevant nonsense or whatever. following a set of rules whether you agree with them or not is not causing you any harm is it what harm is caused by living to a moral code - whether you happen to agree with it or not also - would you rather live as if a god exists and in the end find he does not or live as if he does not and in the end find that he does - and that he is a very just god no corner given - no forgiveness no allowances for doing what was right to you not that i believe in that kind of god exactly. i believe in a forgiving god - but forgiveness is on his terms - and therin comes the christian values and christian beliefs -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

suddenly without warning clare at snyder.on.ca exclaimed 11/11/2006 243 pm on sat 11 nov 2006 034155 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote a logical female that can make cc cookies..... this is getting scary. vbg denny who me female um - no. not last time i checked anyway. i think he was talking to me. jmc .

From : bryan

on sat 11 nov 2006 124047 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote fuck you douche bag i doubt you would have the balls to say that to my face. larry there is no arguing with a total fuck like that. if he had any sense in the first place he would never have said what he did. he is nothing maore than another ass clown. azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote in speaking of vets my step-daughter i have two who is currently in the box gets home near the end of the month! its an illegal war and i hope she gets her box filled a few times. bush is a lyin stinkin prick. -- kyle o reply address is fake. dont ask for the real one a troll named lookout sent enough spam and viruses that i shut it down. .

From : miles

fuck you douche bag i doubt you would have the balls to say that to my face. azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote in speaking of vets my step-daughter i have two who is currently in the box gets home near the end of the month! its an illegal war and i hope she gets her box filled a few times. bush is a lyin stinkin prick. -- kyle o reply address is fake. dont ask for the real one a troll named lookout sent enough spam and viruses that i shut it down. .

From : miles

clare at snyder.on.ca wrote just for the record. believing and saying those who do not believe as you do you is wrong is not necessarily intollerance. i can dissagree with your beliefs and still respect you and tollerate you. intollerance is refusing to respect the right of someone else to be wrong. tollerance does not mean you have to adopt the thinking of those you dissagree with or compromise your own belief. if i say the bottom light of a traffic signal is green and you say it is red ill try to tell you you are mistaken but as long as you are ready and willing to stop on your green and procede on your red there is no problem and i can allow you to continue going through life believing green is red. if you continue in your belief that green is red and drive through your green lights you are intollerant because you are forcing your mistaken beliefs on the rest of the world. i agree with your analogy. however i draw the line when someone suffers from anothers beliefs being force upon the person. in your last paragraph the person has the potential to harm others with his/her belief. bryan .

From : tbone

not that there hasnt been enough bs this week. but in my little mind i think i have the answer. if we all say we agree with our nazi tell him we all subscribe to his views he will shut up and the bs will stop. any thoughts bfg roy .

From : beekeep

im trying to install an air/fuel monitor for my 2003 ram hemi. the wire diagrams that i have found do not match my wire colors. i have 2 white 1 black and 1 grey. i need to determine which is the signal wire. i think it is the black but need to confirm it. thanks art .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote i at least dont brag on being tolerant. thats because you have nothing to brag about in that regard. you have never shown any level of tolerance towards differing beliefs. .

From : chris thompson

on nov 10 806 pm jmc nogroupss...@nojodibody.homeus wrote oops i cant spell. its jhcoas. whats the p stand for in yours popsicle - craig c. .

From : beekeep

on nov 10 943 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@alltel.net wrote this of course is my opinion i have no engineering degree or engineering credentials to support my opinion. good observation. i have been studying alternative energy sources for quite some time now. in fact at the rate im going ill be dead before i actually get a phd. it will stand for posthumous doctorite - i was shocked when e85 got the nod. it is far from the solution trust me. it is merely a stepping stone to what comes next. it is very expensive to produce. although the japs have supposedly engineered a bacteria that pisses ethanol faster and cheaper than our means of producing it. surprise surprise. it has been my observation that most americans have not changed their idea of energy consumption. rather they think the move towards alternative sources is just a 1 for 1 replacement to what they already have. we *must* change the way we look at energy consumption and become more efficient. frankly americans are energy hogs. as i stated most of my research has been on bio-diesel. not so much the actual burning of it but what the bi-products are that go into the air after it is burned. bio-diesel especially soybean based is really a great alternative fuel. its clean fairly cheap to produce grown by americans for americans its renewable ... and heres the cool part extracting the oil from the soybean does not destroy it. it can still be consumed or used in products for consumption. an old man i once knew a soybean farmer always joked that soybeans would save us all. craig c. .

From : john kunkel

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From : clare at snyder on ca

on fri 10 nov 2006 190023 -0500 clare at snyder.on.ca wrote on fri 10 nov 2006 105518 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view only if you can prove the existence of god and the validity of the bible. generally with the exception of the extreme fundamentalist you will find the christian more tolerant of the beliefs of others than you will find others to the beliefs of christians. they the christian may tell you you are wrong but will accept you regardless. the atheist or non christian whether islamist jew or humanist tells the christian he is wrong ridicules him and demands not to be exposed to anything or subjected to anything that smacks of or reminds him of christianity. bullshit! atheists and agnostics could care less what anyones believes because we know it doesnt make any difference in the end. ive been an agnostic all my life and i married a catholic girl. to this day i encourage her to go to church every sunday and pursue her inner happiness. what we do object to is having someone or the government trying to shove their views down our throats. making a child stand up and thank god for his or her food before school lunch is a good example of what we object to. otoh i have no objection to a child reading his or her bible at school or saying grace before they eat their school lunch. i think you will find that we are the most tollerant of all. i have no problem with budds beliefs. i just think that what he has been doing in here is far from a christian behavior. he is exhibiting a terrorist mindset and doing chritianity a huge disservce. beekeep .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sat 11 nov 2006 162721 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote suddenly without warning clare at snyder.on.ca exclaimed 11/11/2006 243 pm on sat 11 nov 2006 034155 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote a logical female that can make cc cookies..... this is getting scary. vbg denny who me female um - no. not last time i checked anyway. i think he was talking to me. jmc could be - lots of people see clare and think female. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

on nov 10 538 pm jmc nogroupss...@nojodibody.homeus wrote jhcoos i know it will probably come to me after i send this but ... i know what jhcops stands for. whats the o in your acronym - craig c. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on nov 10 603 pm denny wddo...@woh.rr.com wrote bugs bunny isnt real and all this time i was thinking............. oh shit..... bugs is grey not pink. makes a big difference. - craig c. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sat 11 nov 2006 051938 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote just quoting scripture my ass. you are first quoting then interpreting them and then pushing your beliefs on others and getting pissed if people dont completely agree with you and have no tolerance for what anyone else thinks. now look whos getting pissed and intollerant come on guys cant we just agree to dissagree i know the whole world will not agree with my beliefs and their is no way ill ever convince even a small percentage that they are wrong and i am right. there will be a small number whom i will care enough about to pursue dilligently to encourage not force them to change their beliefs - and i will be open to answer to anyone who asks what i believe and why. in the meantime i will live my life as much as it is within my power in accordance with my anabaptist christian beliefs. if that causes some to be uncomfortable it is up to them how they respond. anabaptism is a radical form of christianity - non-resistant non-violent socially responsible and concerned for the rights and well-being of others. as such it is by its very nature evangelical. pesecution for their beliefs has been a constant at one level or another since the beginning of the anabaptist movement in the 1500s and there is no reason to believe or expect that this will change anytime in the near term here on earth. if you are interested in knowing more google mennonite anabaptist brethren in christ or historic peace churches - or ask me. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on sat 11 nov 2006 110821 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote not that there hasnt been enough bs this week. but in my little mind i think i have the answer. if we all say we agree with our nazi tell him we all subscribe to his views he will shut up and the bs will stop. any thoughts bfg roy im not too keen on that strategy actually. it might work i admit that but no better than ignoring him. it also strikes me that not everyone wants to stop him. some people continue to answer his posts as if he were actually capable of a discussion. if people want to get into an argument with him and enjoy the game then so be it i guess. i think some people dont realize how sick he is or how truly bizarre his posts are. i do believe however that he would go away if everyone said they agreed with him. from the start years ago budd always enjoyed playing the poor old discriminated against guy. without that he would have no reason to stick around. i just cant find it in myself to do it however. i can find it in myslef to ignore most of his posts though. every once in a while he says things so incredibly stupid and strange that i cant help but comment for the chuckle involved but even then i shouldnt. at the same time i do get embarrassed for him and i think that ignoring him is the most civil way to deal with him. i love a good argument but arguing with budd is litterally like picking on a mentally or emotionally disabled person. it isnt very pretty and it shouldnt make you feel very good. look he has really lost it. anyone that can not see that he has mentally stepped over the edge hasnt looked very closely. im not going to dance on anyones grave. .

From : beekeep

lol no i saw that one but it was not specifically created for me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on sat 11 nov 2006 025603 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote damn even at my worst i wasnt bad enough to get a web site dedicated to me. are you proud budd oh but you do! seems to me i posted a link awhile back. you must have missed it. beekeep .

From : miles

on sat 11 nov 2006 015557 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote and what if my beliefs dont allow others to tell me to change my beliefs or tell me im wrong that was the point of the op. how can your beliefs not allow others to do as they choose who the hell are you to tell others what they can and cant say youre in effect saying that you must be allowed to pontificate any belief you desire and everyone else must accept it as fact. ive never said this before but hey - first time for everything. budd fuck you. now go play the wounded victim and tell me how shocked you are. better go get your blood pressure checked tom he aint worth dying over. beekeep .

From : miles

beekeep wrote i have no quam with a luxury tax on jewelry yachts sports cars and other non necesities. if we make it extremely difficult to afford luxuries then the incentive to work towards them vanishes. i dont want a society where everyone just has their basic needs met and nothing more. pretty boring society that will become stagnant with zero growth. taxes should be based on needed services performed by government. not as a form of punishment for those that are successful. .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote the odd part is if they are doing so then why are they so cowardly about defending their faith theyre not cowards. they are people who have respect for others and do not have the radical view of christiantity that says convert or conquer that you do. you should have lived in the crusades era. you would have like having so many that think as you do today. and what if my beliefs dont allow others to tell me to change my beliefs or tell me im wrong that was the point of the op. then keep your beliefs where they belong. to yourself. if your belief is that you must tell others how to think your way then expect them to fire it right back and tell ya where to shove it! .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote miles i told you the truth about what i was doing and you refuse to accept it and have called me a liar. i have never called you a liar. i disagree with your beliefs but i still respect your right to them. however you take them to extremes and try to impose them onto others. youve already stated everyone that does not believe as you do is wrong. why is it so difficult for you to respect others that differ in their beliefs you want it one way..your way only. not gonna happen budd. dish it out and expect it back. .

From : tom lawrence

i will not tolerate being told the bible is wrong and that i am wrong for believing it. ok fine. your not going to change anyones mind with a hostile attitude about it though. you know the old saying you catch more flies with honey than vinagar. as for your verse how have you followed it lately i have been as gentle and patient as i know to be with you. trust me i could be much harsher. now speaking of following ones own advice and verses. ive posted to you on this matter a number of times. and i am through. may god be with you in your journey. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams .

From : jmc

tbone wrote neither is taking the most money possible from others but that doesnt seem to bother you. why is that miles who is taking the most possible just because someone makes a great product that people want to buy does not mean they are taking too much from someone. raise their taxes sky high and they stop growing which means fewer jobs. if youre just going to tax the crap out of them for expanding then why would they that may not have been the case a few years ago but with the ever increasing greed of people like yourself.....redistribution needs to happen to keep the country intact and functional. redistribution will cause slower growth. too high will stop it all together. without incentive to grow a company wont! next thing liberals will want is salaries regulated by government. and with the extreme level of greed in this country of some select few i can see why. making a great product and being successful is what you define as greed. then they will want salary based on need rather than abilities. what does this even mean good gried!! you dont know look up communism. you know the result of what grows out of socialism. what a complete load of shit. when exactly does it change from striving to achieve to just being greedy the war on the middle class has gone on long enough and this shift in power proves it. taxing the crap out of anyone who is successful removes the incentive for doing so. it halts the very reason for growth. nobody is going to increase investments in growth if they will be forced to give up returns on that investment in the form of high taxes. if you want to set limits on one then you should be willing to set limits on the other and you dont. btw i have yet to see a republican or conservative set a fair limit on the amount an upper officer in a company makes in relation to the lower paid employees you know the ones that do the actual work. you seem to think it is wrong for someone to earn a return on an investment into their own company. however you see nothing wrong with someone investing in another company in the form of stocks and getting a decent return for retirement. your absurd logic says investing in your own company is greed. investing in another company is sound investing. you logic that you have stated here many times makes no sense at all. a persons own company is their retirement investment or at least a substantial part of it. when you define a fair limit on compensation why should be put a cap on a persons salary once again youll put a stop to the very reasons for growth...returns on investments. .

From : clare at snyder on ca

on thu 9 nov 2006 102138 -0500 napalmheart olsonfam@iserv.net wrote wow!! it would seem that a pretty strong message was sent nationally. here in ma we have a d for gov. first time in 16 years. also a black man who did some impressive things during the campaign. he is a strong advocate of stem cell research. so that bodes well. hopefully this country gets turned around. r turned from what to what i guess that you must feel that everything is running along just fine. if so im happy for you. just asking for a little detail. whats a detail something that seems to evade those on the left. and yet the left won anyway. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

budd at this even i would have to say that you have crossed a line. how you feel how you think how you wish to worship how you wish to live and base your life on your views of the written word is all fine for you the misses and whom ever else wishes to live that way. these are only right for those that share the same beliefs as you and incase it hasnt been made clear yet not everyone does. and yet im told to tolerate that which the bible says to not tolerate. really by who but for you to say that view other then yours is wrong and is going too far. no not to me. of course not since you are never wrong. this is not merely a matter or issue of tolerance. i think that everyone has been tolerant until it has been rammed down their throats and i am sorry to say that with this post specifically this line all other views are wrong. that is exactly what you have done. rammed i give up. no one here has the guts to take the responsibility for what they have done to me over my beliefs. perhaps that is because nobody has done anything to you. just because you take anything said as a personal vicious attack against you doesnt make it so. this right here is the exact reason i have denounced my roman catholic up bringing. i am a man with a mind and with the ability to think act and judge for myself. and christianity doesnt stop that some denominations like the catholic church do. chritianity sets rules to live by and i have decided to follow those rules for that im catching heck. no you are catching heck for claiming that your interpretations are the only ones that are correct and everyone must follow them. so i have to ask why are you hell bent on converting everyone to your way of life im not but like ive said because of the general prejudice against fundametal christians no one will admit im not doing anything but quoting scripture. fine so be it. just quoting scripture my ass. you are first quoting then interpreting them and then pushing your beliefs on others and getting pissed if people dont completely agree with you and have no tolerance for what anyone else thinks. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : azwiley1

ok here is one for all the experts in here what would happen if you attempted to run e85 in a non flex-fuel non-e85 capable vehicle ill guess that your service engine soon light would come on and youll have hesitation/surging when driving. it may be a little hard to start cold too. hows that for some wild ass guessing denny would it be the same if i ran blended wabbit hehe if you could get it to run on rabbit itd just keep going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going............ denny .

From : craig c

we can fix that if you like! vbg damn even at my worst i wasnt bad enough to get a web site dedicated to me. are you proud budd -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on nov 10 755 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote ive never said this before but hey - first time for everything. budd fuck you. now go play the wounded victim and tell me how shocked you are. http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd5.htm craig c. .

From : craig c

damn even at my worst i wasnt bad enough to get a web site dedicated to me. are you proud budd -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on nov 10 755 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote ive never said this before but hey - first time for everything. budd fuck you. now go play the wounded victim and tell me how shocked you are. http//homepage.mac.com/mcraigchr/budd5.htm craig c. .

From : jmc

hotter. is my steering loose or something more ominous is this something a layperson can fix themselves how many clunks if its just one clunk per direction and you have a 4x4 id suspect the track bar joint first. .

From : denny

thanks enjoy the day thanks for your service. mac you around anyway welcome home bro. roy .

From : craig c

thanks craig i just read through that site and found something extremely interesting. according to the author and that of others on the forum by converting to e85 many hell most report a decrease in fuel economy. i find that interesting considering most of the new flex fuel vehicles get much better economy. must be something with the conversion. oh well not worth it. on nov 10 711 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote ok here is one for all the experts in here what would happen if you attempted to run e85 in a non flex-fuel non-e85 capable vehicle the computer will think its running lean. other than that it may or may not run normal depending on 1 the computer and 2 the injectors. students in my class that burn gas i have mostly studied bio-diesel but have done some research on e85 dont notice anything other than a check engine light. i do not know the results of long term use but short term use from what i have witnessed seems fairly transparent. btw there are inexpensive kits you can buy that allow your vehicle to burn e85. the ones i have read about consist of a computer module that forces the injectors to inject more fuel. heres a website that a fellow student referred me to http//e85vehicles.com/converting-e85.htm craig c. craig c. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

its funny how everyone wants to put conditions on tolerance when it comes to what i believe. that is not tolerance. you have become a troll!!! maybe if we dont feed him he will shut up about his beliefs .

From : jmc

suddenly without warning clare at snyder.on.ca exclaimed 11-nov-06 930 am on fri 10 nov 2006 105518 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view only if you can prove the existence of god and the validity of the bible. generally with the exception of the extreme fundamentalist you will find the christian more tolerant of the beliefs of others than you will find others to the beliefs of christians. they the christian may tell you you are wrong but will accept you regardless. the atheist or non christian whether islamist jew or humanist tells the christian he is wrong ridicules him and demands not to be exposed to anything or subjected to anything that smacks of or reminds him of christianity. why is it that of todays nations the most tolerant are those where christianity has been historically the predominant belief system as a christian ill tolerate your view whatever it is. i wont necessarily agree with you - but ill let you believe whatever you like as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others whether that be myself as a christian or anyone else. you dont need to prove anything to me. can you say the same actually yes. im not particularly religious well not in the mainstream sense but i strongly believe in your right to believe however you want to. also i think youre stereotyping a bit. not all atheists ridicule those who believe in a god neither do the others you mention. of course there are those that do just as there are christians that will tell me im going to hell because i dont follow their particular mode of worship. also bud is a christian and isnt tolerant of anyone elses beliefs... christian buddhist druid whatever. you have the right to your beliefs. you can even believe im going to hell i dont particularly mind since i know im not. certainly someone probably millions of someones out there believes youre going to hell because you dont believe as they do - does that mean you are probably not. none of us will know whos right until we die. and depending on your particular belief maybe not even then. jmc .

From : azwiley1

if its the same one in the ram then the sender is the problem. its not difficult to fix but you will need to remove the tank in order to effect the repair. the part is available as just the sender from the dealer so dont let them tell you that you have to buy the entire assembly. i think the part was about $40 or so when i did mine in my ram. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i have a 93 dakota 3.9 auto. gas guage went a little flaky after a few years then i needed a fuel pump at some point. dealer indicated he replaced the sender unit in the tank and my guage worked better but eventually just quit working. i have been going by the milage odometer for the past 6 years. now im curious if i can assume the sender is not the problem is there something else i can look at i certainly dont want to put any real money into this fix but i may let my father in law use the truck and id like the guage working. it just lays flat on empty never moves and also the little gas pump light is on. i guess a bad connection somewhere but was hoping somone would have an idea to narrow my search. and i dont want to fiddle with the tank thats just to involved. but i may be inclined to remove the dash face. thanks in advance. .

From : denny

budd cochran wrote will you tolerate my view your view and right to believe as you choose yes absolutely. unsolicited talk or preaching resulting in the brow beating of others nope. to many budd god is no more real than bugs bunny. to others god exists but they are bitter about what religion has done. to either group your need to convince them otherwise is well intolerable. craig c. bugs bunny isnt real and all this time i was thinking............. oh shit..... denny damn!! looks like the wabbit needs to find a new hero! .

From : jmc

on fri 10 nov 2006 105518 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view only if you can prove the existence of god and the validity of the bible. generally with the exception of the extreme fundamentalist you will find the christian more tolerant of the beliefs of others than you will find others to the beliefs of christians. they the christian may tell you you are wrong but will accept you regardless. the atheist or non christian whether islamist jew or humanist tells the christian he is wrong ridicules him and demands not to be exposed to anything or subjected to anything that smacks of or reminds him of christianity. why is it that of todays nations the most tolerant are those where christianity has been historically the predominant belief system as a christian ill tolerate your view whatever it is. i wont necessarily agree with you - but ill let you believe whatever you like as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others whether that be myself as a christian or anyone else. you dont need to prove anything to me. can you say the same -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : xclimation

chris- thanks much for the start. much appreciated. joe ive got a 2001 dakota extended cab with about 70k. in the past few weeks ive noticed some rough engine running when i go from a stop to resuming moving at a light or stop sign. just recently it will occasionally just die but i put it back in park the engine restarts and i move on with no problem until the next time i stop. things seem ok when i first start up in the mornings. just wonder if someone could guide me to a cause and/or solution. there are no warning lights on the dash when this happens. tia. joe shooting from the hip id say check and make sure the idle control valve isnt sticking. clean the throttle body up. if it has a egr i dont remember for sure on a 01 sorry make sure it isnt sticking open. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : craig c

your wrong budd; i have read it cover to cover. have you i know you havent. if you did then you wouldnt make the statement that you believe the bible is the inerrant word of god. actually read then come back and talk to me. if you read it as something besides a history book you would too. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams if you actually read the bible cover to cover then i think you might change your mind. ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : Annonymous

redneck wrote jf3489@vermontel.net wrote my son bought this truck a 1996 dakota/4wd/318 auto about 3 months ago and had it checked out by a mechanic who gave it a clean bill of health. he stated to me that he put the truck on the lift and pulled the truck into 4wd and all 4 wheels turned. i cannot make this thing go into 4wd nor can i ever get the 4wd light to work. the 4wd shifter seems to work very hard to me. does anyone have any ideas why dont you go see the mechanic because i fix everything i own. give me a direction and i am all set. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

if you read it as something besides a history book you would too. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams if you actually read the bible cover to cover then i think you might change your mind. ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

why are christians all the time forgetting judge not lest ye be judged why are non-christians thinking that applies to them it doesnt. christians dont judge other christians but are allowed to mention errors in beliefs. that seems pretty literal to me and yet at the same time they are professing literal interpretation of the bible wonder which one bud chooses to take his literal interpretation from they are judging others in the next breath. go figure.......... no need the 1611 king james version and if you are not a christian god has already judged you but will pardon your crimes if you seek him. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran yes -- up to the point where it adversely affects others. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

on fri 10 nov 2006 105500 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote so you set conditions not the tolerance you demand of me is it actually i demand nothing of you. i hope that you learn some dignity and some grace but i hope that for your sake not mine. you arent my problem you are your own. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on thu 9 nov 2006 190544 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view i will. if you will tolerate mine. i pretty much believe the oppsosite of you. i believe that god also believes the opposite of what you just wrote. on the other hand i am willing to say that it is a private discussion between god and me. are you in other words can you just keep your opinions regarding god to yourself can you stop being a soldier of the far right christian fundamentalists at least on this ng or iow can you just go see a doctor and get some meds to settle you down -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote will you tolerate my view your view and right to believe as you choose yes absolutely. unsolicited talk or preaching resulting in the brow beating of others nope. to many budd god is no more real than bugs bunny. to others god exists but they are bitter about what religion has done. to either group your need to convince them otherwise is well intolerable. craig c. .

From : azwiley1

btw kunkel i mentioned your comment to my wife and after she stopped laughing she said that was one of the best jokes she had heard in years. living with the likes of you would require the ability to laugh often and easily. she would never laugh behind your back because all of the funny stuff is in front she also said you have no idea of how wonderful a true close relationship can be and probably never will. i wonder how she came to that conclusion since i made no mention of the closeness of your relationship. the same twisted logic that leads one to believe in god would make one believe that there can be no close relationship without religion. my comments have only related to the means by which you went from being an agnostic to being a believer. those who come by their religious beliefs by way of long-term brainwashing or even by epiphany are much more creditable than those who acquiesce at the insistence of others. .

From : roy

rammed i give up. no one here has the guts to take the responsibility for what they have done to me over my beliefs. budd honestly -- thats a little over the top. at the end of the day its just words on a screen read and written by fat losers with too much time on their hands. jon since someone else referenced ben franklin the worst wheel of a cart makes the most noise. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

unless your name is budd and youve made any sort of religious statement. right roy -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams just curious it is anything you want to discuss. a ot would be polite according to some. roy -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : roy

on 10 nov 2006 085517 -0800 craig c. mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote miles wrote taxing anyone who has more than you is not always fairness. agreed. it just seems fair to some folks that the rich should pay more since they are leaching more from the system in one way or another. i have mixed feelings about this. my capitalist said screams unfairness because i happen to pay a great deal of tax due to my situation. however the compassionate side tells me that i should pay more than a struggling single mom or dad or a working student that is learning something that will help the country. productive. ive yet to hear a liberal or democrat state exactly what the limit should be to tax anyone. all they can say is if we need more money then tax the rich some more. no fair limit. its a tough situation. personally i like the idea of abolishing income tax and going to straight federal sales tax. this has many benefits including capturing tax dollars from people that have been able to avoid it like illegal immigrants. it establishes a graduated tax burden the more you have and thus the more you spend the more tax you pay ... and it puts you squarely in control of your tax payout. craig c. i agree but more importantly it makes the government dependant on the economy. i have no problem with a standard military tax. freedom aint cheap. i have no quam with a luxury tax on jewelry yachts sports cars and other non necesities. beekeep .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

no conditions greg either accept me and my beliefs or not. just dont brag on your tolerance anymore. i at least dont brag on being tolerant. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on thu 9 nov 2006 190544 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran only if you shut the fuck up. beekeep -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 10-nov-06 1135 am ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view there are others who will interpret the bible literally and reach different opinions on the same subjects than your own. they believe the bible is the word of god and follow it literally but not the same as you. the odd part is if they are doing so then why are they so cowardly about defending their faith how can they be wrong they read the word of god and follow its every tenant. and if they are wrong then arent you too nope im not saying they are wrong but the bible might. ill tolerate your view if youll tolerate mine which is very different than yours. thats all ive ever wanted. you ask for tolerance but absolutely refuse to tolerate other views yourself all other views are wrong. flamebait your name is masochist. jmc and what if my beliefs dont allow others to tell me to change my beliefs or tell me im wrong that was the point of the op. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

nick pardon me for not having positive advice but isnt 12 years a bit much to expect from a domestic manufacturers paint job or anybodys for that matter youre right -- the paint quality in that era at least wasnt so hot but i cant imagine youll get much more than a blank stare from someone at the dealer. im assuming that since your hood and roof are toast it hasnt been bottled up in a garage for the last decade....so dont worry about any stress at the dealer -- theyll think its a joke. jon nick c topolos wrote i have a 95 ram slt emerald green with a badly faded drivers door lower panel hood and top. the other panels are fine. the truck has 62000 miles and i am the original owner. i have been reading many web sites where chrysler has paid for all/or part of repainting. is there a low stress tactic to use when approaching a dealer about this thanks .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

its funny how everyone wants to put conditions on tolerance when it comes to what i believe. that is not tolerance. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran yes -- up to the point where it adversely affects others. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : tbone

miles i told you the truth about what i was doing and you refuse to accept it and have called me a liar. so be it. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view i will tolerate your right to believe how you want. when you start insulting others and tell them they are wrong going to hell and have total lack of respect and tolerance for others then no you have not earned any respect or tolerance. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

well roy looks like you choose to not tolerate my beliefs. no surprise. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . no you simple fuck the issue is you trying to ram your beliefs down everybodys throat. if they disagree with you they are a bigot engage in bashing or whatever else comes to your warped mind. why dont you stop trolling at every turn and get some help. better yet why dont you let your family read your posts over the past month. maybe they will force you to get some help. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : beekeep

do you really believe that in order to be forgiven you need to accept that you have sinned and then regret doing it. if you actually regretted committing the sins that you made you would at least make an effort to stop committing the same ones and so far you have done no such thing. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i have never said i was innocent but i am a sinner that has been forgiven. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote wysiwyg. youve change in the past few months budd. youve become intolerant of anyone that doesnt agree with everything you say. youve also insulted many here in your delusional belief that youre innocent and were all bad to you. if thats the way your religion works then ill stick with my own beliefs. thankfully most christians do not share your more radical hijacked version of it. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on fri 10 nov 2006 080357 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on thu 9 nov 2006 190544 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view i will. if you will tolerate mine. i pretty much believe the oppsosite of you. i believe that god also believes the opposite of what you just wrote. on the other hand i am willing to say that it is a private discussion between god and me. are you in other words can you just keep your opinions regarding god to yourself can you stop being a soldier of the far right christian fundamentalists at least on this ng or iow can you just go see a doctor and get some meds to settle you down thinking about this for about 5 seconds. i think we are due for the old i am leaving cause everybody picks on me routine. i may be wrong but we have been here before. roy and as sure dieing and paying taxes he always finds his way back here. b

From : roy

xclimation wrote the real difference between the parties is supply side economics vs. fairness in wealth distribution taxing anyone who has more than you is not always fairness. redistribution of wealth is not the direction this country needs. next thing liberals will want is salaries regulated by government. then they will want salary based on need rather than abilities. punishing people for striving to achieve by taxing the crap out of them is counter productive. ive yet to hear a liberal or democrat state exactly what the limit should be to tax anyone. all they can say is if we need more money then tax the rich some more. no fair limit. .

From : beekeep

on thu 9 nov 2006 190544 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view i will. if you will tolerate mine. i pretty much believe the oppsosite of you. i believe that god also believes the opposite of what you just wrote. on the other hand i am willing to say that it is a private discussion between god and me. are you in other words can you just keep your opinions regarding god to yourself can you stop being a soldier of the far right christian fundamentalists at least on this ng or iow can you just go see a doctor and get some meds to settle you down thinking about this for about 5 seconds. i think we are due for the old i am leaving cause everybody picks on me routine. i may be wrong but we have been here before. roy .

From : xclimation

on thu 9 nov 2006 190544 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran only if you shut the fuck up. beekeep .

From : max dodge

if you actually read the bible cover to cover then i think you might change your mind. ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : max dodge

ah yes i forget . . .truth goes right over the heads of liberals. sorry. it must be the other way around budd. do you seriously think that 80% of the country is conservative first off what is conservative; and what is liberal is opinion. some people might consider abortion a conservative ideal; some a liberal ideal. the real difference between the parties is supply side economics vs. fairness in wealth distribution and consumption. it also seems that now a days that there is a difference in how much religion should rule our government. i see what the taliban did in afganistan and i dont want this. until nov. 7 we were slowly headed in that direction. thank god for that evangelical minister in colorado that helped everyone see the light. thank god for foley who helped everyone see the light. thank god for limbaugh and his drug abusing ways. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want a vote cast counts for whom it was cast a vote not cast votes for the opposition. wtf are you talking about wow!! it would seem that a pretty strong message was sent nationally. here in ma we have a d for gov. first time in 16 years. also a black man who did some impressive things during the campaign. he is a strong advocate of stem cell research. so that bodes well. hopefully this country gets turned around. r -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : donstaples

i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view sure but its obvious you wont tolerate any other view.... all other views are wrong. your intolerance is shown in your request for tolerance. nuff said. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : bryan

i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view sure but its obvious you wont tolerate any other view.... all other views are wrong. your intolerance is shown in your request for tolerance. nuff said. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

ive got a 2001 dakota extended cab with about 70k. in the past few weeks ive noticed some rough engine running when i go from a stop to resuming moving at a light or stop sign. just recently it will occasionally just die but i put it back in park the engine restarts and i move on with no problem until the next time i stop. things seem ok when i first start up in the mornings. just wonder if someone could guide me to a cause and/or solution. there are no warning lights on the dash when this happens. tia. joe shooting from the hip id say check and make sure the idle control valve isnt sticking. clean the throttle body up. if it has a egr i dont remember for sure on a 01 sorry make sure it isnt sticking open. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : roy

budd cochran wrote to miles i told you what the bible said about your beliefs you took it to be in your mind what i had said. budd show me exactly where in the bible it says i am going to hell. i didnt know i personally was in the bible. that is your words not the bibles. you said it not the bible. you insulted me. you are a huge hypocrite and refuse to admit it. dish it out and expect to have it dished back. your choice. dont judge if you dont like it yourself. .

From : big al

ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . no you simple fuck the issue is you trying to ram your beliefs down everybodys throat. if they disagree with you they are a bigot engage in bashing or whatever else comes to your warped mind. why dont you stop trolling at every turn and get some help. better yet why dont you let your family read your posts over the past month. maybe they will force you to get some help. .

From : chris thompson

budd at this even i would have to say that you have crossed a line. how you feel how you think how you wish to worship how you wish to live and base your life on your views of the written word is all fine for you the misses and whom ever else wishes to live that way. these are only right for those that share the same beliefs as you and incase it hasnt been made clear yet not everyone does. but for you to say that view other then yours is wrong and is going too far. this is not merely a matter or issue of tolerance. i think that everyone has been tolerant until it has been rammed down their throats and i am sorry to say that with this post specifically this line all other views are wrong. that is exactly what you have done. this right here is the exact reason i have denounced my roman catholic up bringing. i am a man with a mind and with the ability to think act and judge for myself. so i have to ask why are you hell bent on converting everyone to your way of life i am sorry my friend but this is how i feel. ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams as my daddy used to say. never discuss politics or religion in public. you will only end up in a fight. not that there is anything wrong with a fight al .

From : Annonymous

budd at this even i would have to say that you have crossed a line. how you feel how you think how you wish to worship how you wish to live and base your life on your views of the written word is all fine for you the misses and whom ever else wishes to live that way. these are only right for those that share the same beliefs as you and incase it hasnt been made clear yet not everyone does. but for you to say that view other then yours is wrong and is going too far. this is not merely a matter or issue of tolerance. i think that everyone has been tolerant until it has been rammed down their throats and i am sorry to say that with this post specifically this line all other views are wrong. that is exactly what you have done. this right here is the exact reason i have denounced my roman catholic up bringing. i am a man with a mind and with the ability to think act and judge for myself. so i have to ask why are you hell bent on converting everyone to your way of life i am sorry my friend but this is how i feel. ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .