OT Tile clean up

From : roy

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From : denny

inquire ichudov at algebra dot com... .

From : roy

aw jeeze roy!!!!! now that would be the ultimate in sick stupidity . . . . . budd trying not to fall out of chair due to the dry heaves roy wrote why are you advertising a ford in a dodge group maybe because anybody that owns a ferd wants another roy .

From : budd cochran

do you represent or resent that remark tom vbg budd tbone wrote why i auta $1800 yadayada it would probably take the jaws of life to pry yer money out of your pocket. i represent that remark. i am very generous just ask me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

i need a jack and the tool for raising and lowering the spare tire. .

From : roy

on sat 02 aug 2003 130229 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote $4750 and a picture of my 87 lebaron denny denny if you really want to scare the shit out of him send a picture of yourself in the friggin pink rabbit suit. bfg i think he looks slimmer in the white bunny suit... .

From : redneck tookover hell

i didnt think you could understand anything based on science research and truth it certainly describes you accurately save your vast right wing conspiracy theory for the converted lol could that site be any more right wing. it figures that you would know about it and probably believe every distorted word. .

From : josh

nate glad you made it without major incident. as far as lds and such an interesting book came out after the slc bombings that killed several people. i think the name of the book was the salamander letter and i dont recall the author but he was an investigative reporter i think been awhile. he brings lots of enlightenment to the lds people the hierarchy the politics the history and of course the money. ive heard lds referred to as a cult. i dont know the official definition of cult vs. religion maybe someone here does. i have a neice who married into the church she is his first and only wife. i knew a few other members. like someone earlier said they have some good points as do other religions and some bad points as do other religions. they have to be different. if they werent different they would have the name of another religion. fmb only one b in fmb actually it is polygamy im having a little trouble of understanding the difference in polygamy and bigamy. the reformed lds church rlds still supports the belief. in all fairness though thats like trying to hold the catholics responsible for something the protestants do. they broke off from the mormon church and therefore their actions should not have any impact at all on the mormon church. they are an entirely different church. although it is not supported by the lds church thousands still practice it. thousands in the actual lds church or in the multiple churches that formed after breaking away from the mormon church it is a religion like any other religion agreed. -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com .

From : mac davis

on fri 25 jul 2003 071411 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote damn if you are paying 10 bucks for that wait do they do the tail too bfg roy im gonna have to ask barb the barber the next time i see her if i can get a little tail with my head job. ill get back to you with that answer!!! g denny oh shit...... have the emts standing by in case she says yes.... .

From : beekeep

the clicking sound you described is typical of failing bearings... from michael a@a.com date fri 25 jul 2003 120225 gmt subject re ram shakes when i hit the brakes. only after a few miles. had not thought about the wheel bearing but wouldnt that cause the shuttering 100% of the time .

From : roy

what never ceases to amaze me is the lds claim of being the true church yet having been broken into over 150 splinter groups. if as accorded by their teachings they were the true church why after smiths death did it split couldnt their god hold them together budd eldon jons wrote nate wrote bigamy was not against the law at that point and when law was passed making it illegal they dropped the policy. frankly i dont see the problem there. i think its also fair to note that the reason they practiced bigamy to begin with was because so many of their men had been killed by other religious fanatics who hated them based upon nothing more than religious differences. actually it is polygamy in utah and the reformed lds church rlds still supports the belief. although it is not supported by the lds church thousands still practice it. since the sister wives arent recognized by the government as being married our tax dollars go to support many of them and their kids. you get 3-6 of these wives living in the same house and the benefits add up. no wonder the polygs as they are called can afford to drive brand new $40000 vehicles. the mormons didnt abandon the practice until it was realized that the us government wouldnt grant statehood to utah as long as they were breaking the law. suddenly brigham young was told by a message from god to abandon the practice....probably the same messenger that told joseph smith to take multiple wives when the religion was formed lol! it is a religion like any other religion....based on certain beliefs written and interpreted over the years. so long.... eldon ; http//community.webtv.net/ejutah/acpictures http//community.webtv.net/sodakid2/allallischalmers .

From : tbone

http//allpar.com/wedge.html check that page out -- its about the 413 wedge nott specifically the industrial version however. -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 80000 groups - 16 different servers! =----- .

From : denny

on fri 25 jul 2003 084416 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote just had about 960sq.feet of tile installed. now comes the clean up. what i have to remove is the dust like film that is left behind after the grout. the tile is porcliain if it matters.also the grout is hard and ready for sealing. messed around with a sponge and a couple of buckets of water theres gotta be a quicker way. any thoughts on how to shorten what looks to be a real long job. roy declare it womens work and let the wife do it. you wont clean it to her satisfaction anyway. we never do. beekeep .

From : roy

.. actually starting off puts far more stress on the clutch then engine braking unless you are an idiot and try to use second gear at 60 mph to slow down. i have over 80000 miles and engine brake all of the time and so far no problems and still the factory clutch. why would you replace the pressure plate unless you gouged it do you replace the drums and rotors every time you replace the pads and shoes -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i replace the pressure plate due to the springs tending to get a little weak. that can lead to slipping or chatter. since im kinda lazy and hate doing the labor twice i just replace the disc plate throw out bearing and pilot if equipped as part of the clutch job. it just isnt fun to replace the disc and 20000 miles later take it back apart to replace something else. denny .

From : roy

on fri 25 jul 2003 084416 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote just had about 960sq.feet of tile installed. now comes the clean up. what i have to remove is the dust like film that is left behind after the grout. the tile is porcliain if it matters.also the grout is hard and ready for sealing. messed around with a sponge and a couple of buckets of water theres gotta be a quicker way. any thoughts on how to shorten what looks to be a real long job. roy declare it womens work and let the wife do it. you wont clean it to her satisfaction anyway. we never do. beekeep that wont work here. we will get it done together. roy .

From : denny

on fri 25 jul 2003 071411 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote damn if you are paying 10 bucks for that wait do they do the tail too bfg roy im gonna have to ask barb the barber the next time i see her if i can get a little tail with my head job. ill get back to you with that answer!!! g denny oh shit...... have the emts standing by in case she says yes.... lol!!!!! .

From : denny

thats what i figured. have a bunch of work to do. how was the trip home did you go 90. i put on 300 mile round trip 25mpg. not too shabby for the toy. roy no problems on the trip home. left old orchard about 6 am and went east on 90. traffic really sucked!! i would really hate to see it when it was bad. had to make a detour on 91 down into conn. so kim could get some shot glasses. then had to go back 91 to vermont to get shot glasses. hey it was only 150 miles out of the way! g we ended up taking 88 to 86 across ny. i hate to drive the same road twice and the traffic wasnt bad at all. 25 mpg for the way you drive april fools day is done past my friend. vbg the ole van got 23.4 for the trip. i cant complain any. the ole van got 23.4 because it was dragging your chubby ass and three full rabbit suits. ya gotta lighten the load! bfg ok im done being nice. i have witnesses to who has the biggest girth about the beltline. do i really need to proceed g the house was still here when we got home and the yard needed mowing. i guess vacation is officially over.... my vacation ended this morning when work called and wanted me in this weekend for some ot. told them to stuff it i still have the weekend. oh decided to sell the truck its just sitting there. probably put 500 miles on it over the past two months. so its time. if you would have made up your mind last week cari could have driven it home. it was well worth the $1000 i offered you for it!! denny .

From : roy

how much figured id start at 25.5 and see what happens. roy start my ass! i already offered a grand for it. i figure its as good as mine!! bg denny .

From : denny

budd im not going to get in to a gospel flame war here. nobody wins. people end up getting pissed off at each other and ending friendships that way. ive been in and seen enough debates to know that anyone can bring up scriptures and history to disprove the others faith/beliefs but then the other comes back with more all in the name of love. lets just end this discussion by just giving each other a big hug and kiss over the internet i wont tell my wife if you dont tell yours. on fri 25 jul 2003 155616 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlink.net wrote roger c. covalt wrote bud and nate and everyone else first of all i knew there was one of regulars that had moved out to utah and i thought it was you bud but wasnt sure. yep. moved here because my father-in-laws health was failing and he needed more care. stuck here because my health has declined partially i believe due to the stresses of desert life. second of all let me give you my perspective of utah and btw i am lds convert too and i am a san diego native and still live in san diego county. let me ask you something roger. what are the three primary attributes of a true god yes the lds church has a lot of influence in the state. but you also have lots of freedom that you dont find elsewhere. more places to go off roading without the sierra club getting down your back as hard as in other states. i thought about going to byu once but decided against it because i like to hike and climb and explore on the weekends. also i dont mind taking a religious class when i want to and i have had great teachers in this aspect but not every quarter. not being an offroader or a hiker i dont really get to enjoy those freedoms so they arent important to me. a freedom ive lost here is the freedom to be not looked down on because i dont believe as they do. yes there are moral issues that the church takes a stance on and im glad that some religions have the balls to do that instead of just being 2 faced. ive always been taught and have tried to follow the principles taught by my parents-to stand up and be noticed on issues. im pretty vocal on my stance on most everything. yes if you want porn on tv you might not get in on cable but there is always disk network. the mormons have some fine teachings that are biblically supported. i follow them myself and have with my family. im non-denominational btw. southern utah is going to be more lds than the big cities in northern utah. but youre going to have more problems in those cities. salt lake city was recently announced as having less than 50% lds population. moab has less than 40%. the problem lies in that in places where no religious is needed the mormons pile it on almost to the point of being discriminatory. if youve ever read any of edward abbeys books youll get the strong impression he doesnt care for mormons. in fact in two of his books the monkey wrench gang and hayduke lives there is a character named bishop love that is a great farce on the lds church. as you probably are aware earth first! has their roots in the writings of abbey. ive known fellow environmentalists and i claim to be one too that have based their attitude of the lds church solely on the writings of abbey. sadly its their closed mindiness-willing to accept someone elses words on a belief without investigating it themselves of course they will never admit to being closed minded-its always there other side that is closed minded. they would find that there are lots of flaming liberals along with the standard picture image of the church of being right wing conservatives. ive studied the teachings five times. ive researched the lds faith online. it has some serious problems that are irreconcilable among which the failed prophecies of joseph smith are only the tip of the iceberg. send me a email and list them for you. the reason i want to move to southern utah is not because i am lds but because i cant stand what is happening in california and would prefer a area with more freedom. as a mormon once you hit the local registry rolls youll have no problems. but when a non mormon walks into a local establishment and as soon as your name is mentioned you see the friendliness leave and the only reason is that the business is lds connected what does that tell you oh theyll take the money but you wont be treated as friendly as a church member. i am a right wing conservative meaning i favor less taxes less government in our lives but also a flaming environmentalist how can the 2 of them together be possible got to be open minded im not a brow-beating conservative but i dont want the government taking over my responsibilities in life to my god myself my family and my country. personally i think the elected officials should work for minimum wage / 40 hrs / week and the government should get only 10% taxes . . god lives on it fine why cant the government

From : roy

the question on the idle problem sounds like an idle air control valve. it may need cleaning with throttle injector cleaner spray. if that does not work maybe someone else may give advise on checking it out. your second question is yes the converter will start to break apart and clog the converter and or muffler. you will lose power when that happens. i have a 97 dakota that for 111k miles has run perfect best truck i have ever owned and ive owned a lots in 70 years. this morning when i turned the ignition switch it just clicked. the battery i told my self so i replaced the battery with a known good one. when i turned the ignition swith it started but will not idle you can keep it running by pushing on e gas and letting off as it reevs up but if you take your foot off the gas it dies. one problem i do have started about a month ago and i wonder if it could be the cause. i developed a rattle in the catalytic converter. i took it to the muffler shop and they wanted $180.00 to replace it. i told him i could put up with the rattle for that kind of money. he then said if you run it that way pieces of it will clogg up your muffler and burn a valve. i though he was just trying to sell me a converter was i wrong. was the battery just a coincidence. the new battery has been in the truck about 10 hours and it still starts the truck i think no short. any suggestions will be appreciated. have a nice day rogerx .

From : carl saiyed

dam tom you are good! from tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net organization earthlink inc. -- http//www.earthlink.net date thu 24 jul 2003 094717 gmt subject re 2001 ram 1500 starting problem it is getting error code p0320 p0320 ignition/distributor engine speed input circuit malfunction hmmm... my guess would be that this translates to a camshaft position sensor malfunction. the cps is inside the distributor. first check the electrical connector remove the cap to access it. next you want to back-probe the connections. the purple wire should be the 5v supply. make sure it has voltage with the ignition key on. if it does back-probe the tan wire and crank the engine. you should see the voltage fluctuate between 0 and 5v. if not the cps is toast. if you dont even get voltage on the supply wire theres a problem with the pcm or the wiring harness between the two. .

From : carl saiyed

i have a pickup truck for sale in your price range if you are still interested. tacoma wa carl thats what i figured. have a bunch of work to do. how was the trip home did you go 90. i put on 300 mile round trip 25mpg. not too shabby for the toy. roy no problems on the trip home. left old orchard about 6 am and went east on 90. traffic really sucked!! i would really hate to see it when it was bad. had to make a detour on 91 down into conn. so kim could get some shot glasses. then had to go back 91 to vermont to get shot glasses. hey it was only 150 miles out of the way! g we ended up taking 88 to 86 across ny. i hate to drive the same road twice and the traffic wasnt bad at all. 25 mpg for the way you drive april fools day is done past my friend. vbg the ole van got 23.4 for the trip. i cant complain any. the ole van got 23.4 because it was dragging your chubby ass and three full rabbit suits. ya gotta lighten the load! bfg ok im done being nice. i have witnesses to who has the biggest girth about the beltline. do i really need to proceed g the house was still here when we got home and the yard needed mowing. i guess vacation is officially over.... my vacation ended this morning when work called and wanted me in this weekend for some ot. told them to stuff it i still have the weekend. oh decided to sell the truck its just sitting there. probably put 500 miles on it over the past two months. so its time. if you would have made up your mind last week cari could have driven it home. it was well worth the $1000 i offered you for it!! denny .

From : denny

i just read your description on it. if i go $1000 for roys truck ill make a $50 offer for yours. then well have to discuss how you are going to deliver the truck to ohio. bg denny i got a truck you can buy for $1200 denny it is a great running 4x4... tacoma wa lemme know. carl how much figured id start at 25.5 and see what happens. roy start my ass! i already offered a grand for it. i figure its as good as mine!! bg denny .

From : roy

$2250 denny why i auta $1800 -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving $1750 denny i think that you two need to get a room - btw ill give you 1500 for it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wtf!! the witnesss have been tampered with and coerced you have probably threatened cari with a stale clam. kim is probably in fear that youll find your way to the bedroom. gbfg reply from cari. you fibulator! take that from a female teenager i cant believe cari is turning on me already.g reply from kim if you denny were a beached whale it would take greenpeace in a rubber raft to pull you denny off the beach. it would take a whole tugboat to move roys ass back to the water the reason it would take a tugboat is .... well let me put it this way ya cant drive a spike with a tack hammer. i guess its time for sue to put in a few comments!! or is she sitting back in a corner snickering too much to type her comments on this tack hammer will be priceless!!! denny .

From : roy

unfortunately schucks is nowhere near fl but i found one at napa. thanks! joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies carl saiyed carlsaiyed@hotmailremove.com wrote in find one that is the same size as yours. or try www.schucks.com or try www.napaonline.com. schucks will ship directly to your house hope this helps. carl where the hell can i get a 180-degree thermostat for my 5.9 believe it ornot nobody in south florida carries them. been to bennet pep discount etc. with no luck. tried the 160 but it trips the check engine light - too cold. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies .

From : denny

thanks... lots of good information again.. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving thanks tom... lot of helpful info here. question concerning the o2 sensors. after removing the o2 sensors will it effect the engine performance or computer in any way if so how do i handle that problem do you still intend to drive this on the street i would suggest that you purchase a set of headers that are emmissions legal and put the o2 sensors back in as well as the converters. the computer expects them and is tuned to operate with them in place. you could possibly remove the o2 sensors and replace them with resistors to fake out the computer but what would be the point. second question any links on where to buy a good set of headers ceramic coated maybe. how about stainless steel to help prevent rusting ceramic coated headers dont rust either if it is done correctly. just about any performance catalog will have either type as well as direct replacement types that will bolt up to the stock exaust configuration. what do you recommend for the remaing exhaust system i would like to keep the spare tire hanging. thanks ahead of time ron any pros or cons for installing headers nothing than the usual header cons - hotter underhood temps more susceptible to gasket leaks could rust out over time.. the power gains are decent however. i say go for it. if youre going to keep the truck for more than a few years id look into having them ceramic coated. either way get a starter heat shield. the drivers side header pipe will pass very close to the starter. stuck starter solenoids suck. youll also want to get different ignition wires - get ones designed for higher temps. the ones i have use heavy silicone boots with a reflective coating on them. havent burned one up yet. how about any sensors on the exhaust system how do i handle them and will it effect the engine unplug the electrical connector then remove the o2 sensors. either use an o2 socket or a box-end or flare-type wrench. what other problems will i run into typical exhaust system problems - rusted bolts clamps... have a good penetrating oil handy as well as several different cutting tools cut-off wheel reciprocating saw etc.. if youre discarding the old system theres no reason to be neat about it. cut what you cant easily unbolt. the stock hangers can sometimes be a bitch - the metal rods with the barb on the end that fit through the rubber isolators... cut the rod at the 90 bend and remove the cut piece with the barb from the other side. its a whole lot easier. when installing new just coat the barb with some grease. the hardest part by far will be installing the headers - not a lot of room to work with around the rear cylinders but its doable done it twice now .

From : mac davis

on fri 25 jul 2003 233956 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote nope but it could be because you are unable to mind your own business. budd let me help you out just a little since you seem to have a considerable problem grasping what should be a pretty simple idea. this is a group. this is a public group. there is no password to get onto this ng. there is no password to be able to read any of the threads. when you post your normal senile dribble it is being posted to this public group. anyone can read it. anyone can comment on it. a person such as me can certainly chose to ignore a post or can certainly chose to just not read a particular post or particular posts from any particular imbecile. at the same time and in that same vein a person can chose to read any post here and can chose to post a response. that is because it is a public ng. there is no butting in you stupid twit. if you want to have a private conversation then take it to email or to a chat room that is invitation only. or build your own web site and only allow certain people to come to your site yeah id like to see that web design by budd---can you fit the whole old testament on a web site anyway budd if you continue to post here then everyone else that comes here will be able to and will have the rights to read your post and to then make a choice as to whether or not they want to respond to your ridiculous ramblings. it isnt butting in you idiot it is because you posted your comments to the public. me well i have pretty much tried all of the options but i find myself unable to let your incredible stupidity and your totally instable perspectives of the world go unchallenged. its like when i was a kid at horror movies you know i would always put my hand over my eyes at the really scary parts but i always found myself peeking. the bizarre and micabre always draws our attention sort of like the fat bearded lady at the circus. thats how i think of you budd you are the fat bearded lady at the circus. that was pretty funny. roy yep.... and more literate and better said than i coulda done by far! i woulda just said something dumb like oh shit budds being attacked again! and go flamed... .

From : mac davis

on sat 26 jul 2003 012924 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wtf!! the witnesss have been tampered with and coerced you have probably threatened cari with a stale clam. kim is probably in fear that youll find your way to the bedroom. gbfg reply from cari. you fibulator! take that from a female teenager reply from kim if you denny were a beached whale it would take greenpeace in a rubber raft to pull you denny off the beach. it would take a whole tugboat to move roys ass back to the water your generosity is overwhelming. just trying to be helpful! bg denny give it up roy.... he has the ladies on his side so ya know ya cant win!! .

From : mac davis

on sat 26 jul 2003 165427 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote why i auta $1800 yadayada it would probably take the jaws of life to pry yer money out of your pocket. this sponge and water stuff sucks!! been at it since 9am whats the deal with the vinegar roy ummm.... to keep you from smelling not so fresh .

From : mac davis

on sat 26 jul 2003 123701 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on fri 25 jul 2003 084416 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote just had about 960sq.feet of tile installed. now comes the clean up. what i have to remove is the dust like film that is left behind after the grout. the tile is porcliain if it matters.also the grout is hard and ready for sealing. messed around with a sponge and a couple of buckets of water theres gotta be a quicker way. any thoughts on how to shorten what looks to be a real long job. roy i used a shop vac and sponge mop bro... what did you do loosen it and keep it wet with the sponge and then use the shop vac roy treated it kinda like a tile saw... used the sponge mop and slow drip hose to rub it and the vac to pull the dirty water up... took about 4 hours less this way on a bigger floor than the last one i did when i didnt use the shop vac... .

From : roy

1962 327 fuelie smallblock. according to the background given out about the song the sonoramic 413 was in a 62 fury. budd i was talking about the restored ss dodge that t-bone mentioned having a match race with a corvette. was curious if the ss was a elephant and the corvette a mouse. guess it was in a mopar mag. roy .

From : roy

on sat 26 jul 2003 165427 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote why i auta $1800 yadayada it would probably take the jaws of life to pry yer money out of your pocket. this sponge and water stuff sucks!! been at it since 9am whats the deal with the vinegar roy ummm.... to keep you from smelling not so fresh thanks bro you have been a big friggin help! bfg saw a thing on those machines a couple night ago think it was on a&e. about their use and various sizes for the task at hand. pretty cool. do ya think we could sorta launch a overweight pink friggin rabbit talk about the ultimate test. gbmfg roy .

From : roy

on sat 26 jul 2003 012924 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wtf!! the witnesss have been tampered with and coerced you have probably threatened cari with a stale clam. kim is probably in fear that youll find your way to the bedroom. gbfg reply from cari. you fibulator! take that from a female teenager reply from kim if you denny were a beached whale it would take greenpeace in a rubber raft to pull you denny off the beach. it would take a whole tugboat to move roys ass back to the water your generosity is overwhelming. just trying to be helpful! bg denny give it up roy.... he has the ladies on his side so ya know ya cant win!! it is beginning to seem that way. after meeting them i would have thought they would have been capable of more independent thought. then again ol thumper does make the ice cream. that has to be the advantage. roy .

From : denny

on sun 27 jul 2003 102217 -0400 ron rd4@his.com wrote http/suvoa.grassroots.com the link needs another / like this http//suvoa.grassroots.com good luck on this. i hope this group takes action. ...somebody has to take governments place and business seems to me to be a logical entity to do it. - david rockefeller - week international feb 1 1999. .

From : denny

i replaced the air filter 2 days ago and have noticed an improvement. i havent pulled a trailer yet but ran it hard on the jersey turnpike and didnt hear it ping. the old filter didnt look too bad but i swear it made a difference. scout 99scanner post@thegroup.com wrote i turned the input for the air box to allow more airflow .

From : denny

its just a song. . . and an incorrect one. someone from mopar magazine put up a challenge for a restored stingray to go up against his factory origional super stock dodge. someone took him up and they ran 3 races and the ss dodge creamed it every time. its been done several times but the one you mention was the october 1990 issue of mopar action. the song alludes to the fact that the dodge had a 413 so the cars chosen for the showdown were a 62 dart with the 413 max wedge and a 63 stingray 327 fuelie. the dodge severely trounced the vette several times so yes the cars were mismatched but i guess the beach boys pandered to the surfer crowd which would have favored the vette. for anyone interested heres the lyrics of the song shutdown tach it up tach it up buddy gonna shut you down it happened on the strip where the road is wide two cool shorts standin side by side yeah my fuel injected stingray and a four-thirteen revvin up our engines and it sounds real mean tach it up tach it up tach it up buddy gonna shut you down declinin numbers at an even rate at the count of one we both accelerate my stingray is light the slicks are startin to spin but the four-thirteens really diggin in gotta be cool now power shift here we go superstock dodge is windin out in low but my fuel injected stingrays really startin to go to get the traction im ridin the clutch my pressure plates burnin that machines too much pedals to the floor hear the dual quads drink and now the four-thirteens lead is startin to shrink hes hot with ram induction but its understood i got a fuel injected engine sittin under my hood shut it off shut it off buddy now i shut you down shut it off shut it off buddy now i shut you down shut it off shut it off buddy now i shut you down shut it off shut it off buddy now i shut you down shut it off shut it off buddy now i shut you down .

From : tbone

tbone wrote i have no problem with this bill and neither should anyone else with a functioning brain stem. i just find it interesting that a republican would be the one who started it. dont know why it should surprise you she votes democrat every chance she gets and is finding herself on fewer and fewer committees. oh i see a republican that has the ability to look beyond tem minutes into the future and thinks about more than themselfs. guess she will be the next to jump ship and go independent provided she can fool the voters again and get re-elected. yes it does seem to be difficult for a republican with any intelligence to remain in the party. perhaps you should run you would have no fear of being booted out or having to change sides. of course you have no problem with the bill. it is moronic stupid and very liberal right down your ally. i see that you are once again ignorant self centered and of course incorrect. well at least you are consistent pinhead. the bill has merit and is being drafted to correct the bs loophole that the auto-industry is using to create high profit luxury vehicles and get around both the safety and mileage requirements for passenger cars. jerry -- character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. easy to say but as you have proven and as budd has already pointed out incapable of doing it when people are looking never mind when they are not. .

From : budd cochran

wtf!! the witnesss have been tampered with and coerced you have probably threatened cari with a stale clam. kim is probably in fear that youll find your way to the bedroom. gbfg reply from cari. you fibulator! take that from a female teenager i cant believe cari is turning on me already.g reply from kim if you denny were a beached whale it would take greenpeace in a rubber raft to pull you denny off the beach. it would take a whole tugboat to move roys ass back to the water the reason it would take a tugboat is .... well let me put it this way ya cant drive a spike with a tack hammer. i guess its time for sue to put in a few comments!! or is she sitting back in a corner snickering too much to type her comments on this tack hammer will be priceless!!! denny . 222 264716 u-ecnwsbw-2gbbmixtwjkg@comcast.com . actually starting off puts far more stress on the clutch then engine braking unless you are an idiot and try to use second gear at 60 mph to slow down. i have over 80000 miles and engine brake all of the time and so far no problems and still the factory clutch. why would you replace the pressure plate unless you gouged it do you replace the drums and rotors every time you replace the pads and shoes -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i replace the pressure plate due to the springs tending to get a little weak. that can lead to slipping or chatter. since im kinda lazy and hate doing the labor twice i just replace the disc plate throw out bearing and pilot if equipped as part of the clutch job. it just isnt fun to replace the disc and 20000 miles later take it back apart to replace something else. denny fair enough. i guess that it depends on the level of use that shifting you put it through. i tend not to use the clutch while upshifting past first gear. you must have some big truck experience behind you. it seems like most of them i know just use the clutch for stops. denny i wouldnt put myself in that category. i drove a 26 delivery truck for a few years but that is a far cry from driving a semi. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote actually starting off puts far more stress on the clutch then engine braking unless you are an idiot and try to use second gear at 60 mph to slow down. stress and wear are two entirely different things. and in case you havent noticed using the clutch to start out is essentially mandatory using it to slow the vehicle is optional. the optional part is based upon some myth that equates that what might be desireable when decending a mountain grade because of necessity is also a good thing to do at every given opportunity. i believe it to be one of the sub-rules of mores law what states if more is good too much is just right. this is just being silly. first of all if done correctly engine braking or downshifting puts no wear on the clutch. perhaps you just dont know how to do it. another advantage to downshifting is that you are always in the correct gear if you need to accelerate for some reason. i have over 80000 miles and engine brake all of the time and so far no problems and still the factory clutch. proves nothing. lol it proves that downshifting does not destroy the clutch like you are claiming if done correctly. why would you replace the pressure plate unless you gouged it in 33 years as a mechanic i have yet to see on that wasnt gouged at the time the friction disc needed replacement. if you wait for them to completely fail before you service it that would be expected. sort of like waiting for your brakes to grind before servicing them. do you replace the drums and rotors every time you replace the pads and shoes absolutely. seems the chinese can make a brake rotor and supply it to me cheaper than the local prevailing labor rates allow for re-machining a used one. unfortunately not all of us can get these parts wholesale like you do. also one doesnt need to search very long to find replacement brake friction material with a lifetime warranty not surprisingly similar warranties on clutch friction material seem to be non-existant. i wonder why pretty simple actually they sucker you for the free pads because they will get you on cutting or replacement rotors that usually dont need it replacement calipers other misc parts that by pure numbers has a profit margin way above the cost of the parts due to numbers alone. iirc labor is not included in the free replacement cost and i have yet to see this offered on the more expensive ceramic pads. plus the labor involved is usually a quick and easy to do. a clutch does not have as many parts to crank up the profit on and the labor is more involved so it makes little sense to make that offer. i realize down shifting and engine braking is all macho and it almost makes it seem like your driving one of those big rigs with a jake brake on it where is this shit coming from. you seem to be a very narrow minded opinionated person. do you justify everything that you dont understand and having three whole pedals there on the floor can make things mighty confusing at times lol i can see with your type of limited intelligence where you might actually believe this. but the honest to gosh truth is all three of the fleets i mechaniced at would fire a driver on the spot if they were caught using the clutch as a brake in normal stop and go driving. big difference between large heavy duty commercial vehicles with their hd commercial brakes and a simple 1500 series pu. i downshift to keep in the most optimum gear for the speed and conditions that i am in not your ignorant bs about being macho or fantasizing about driving a big rig. it all comes back to that old saying about a fool and his money. what in the hell does this even mean here -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

mike we just bought an 03 dr2500 w/rke but w/o skim. is it worth it to add the skim is it a diy or do you need the programmer tia jack mike simmons wrote jacob i believe that the skim system on the stratus was an option in 2000. therefore the vehicles that are being stolen are ones that are likely not equipped with this system. chryco service manager member sae i notice that the 2000 dodge stratus es has a theft deterrent system and a transponder key yet i also notice that it is one of the most stolen cars in america. i would therefore assume that the theft deterrent system does not work and the special key means nothing... or am i missing something here .

From : nosey

the us senate is going to vote tuesday july 29 on amendments to the energy bill that could leave you without the pickup trucks and suvs to tow your horses. it only takes will the american male be able to get it up after this they werent able to before the suv which is why the bought the suv. .

From : tbone

i think that you two need to get a room - btw ill give you 1500 for it. shit t-bone we will come to your house and play dont need a room. sure come on over just bring the truck. probably the first time ya had anybody over in a while. nobody visits in joisey anyway they just drive through it. gbmfg drive through it on what road and at what time im usually stuck in traffic. perhaps it will be better in nc. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : denny

why i auta $1800 yadayada it would probably take the jaws of life to pry yer money out of your pocket. i represent that remark. i am very generous just ask me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

the playmates did the best version. its from the 50s budd denny wrote do you remember the old song about the little nash rambler vbg beep beep i guess im not old enough to remember that one. who sang it denny .

From : roy

this is a multi-part message in mime format. ------=nextpart000042201c35462.6b3305e0 content-type text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable i have a 1995 dakota slt v8 4x4 with 126000 miles on it that i use = exclusively to tow my boat back and fourth to the lakes. recently it = has developed a problem that mystifies both myself and my mechanic. = when driving it for a while after it has heated up to normal operating = temperature it will abruptly stall out for no apparent reason. it = doesnt sputter to a stop but rather just stops dead. after coasting to = the shoulder and waiting about a minute or so with the ignition off it = will start right back up again as if nothing has happened. i first = thought it to be a fuel pump problem so we dropped the tank and replaced = the fuel pump. didnt fix it although the broken fuel guage is now = fixed but thats another story all together. the mechanic looked = everything else over connections plugs etc. and found nothing out of = place yet the problem persists. this truck has always been regularly serviced and is in perfect = mechanical condition for 126000 miles and always starts right up. = unfortunately it will die at random when going down the highway. = incidently it seems as though there is a greater propensity for it to = die with the engine under a load ... in other words while = accelerating off a light accelerating out of a turn or going up an = incline. it also seems as though the truck has to be up to normal = operating temperature for this to happen. i can drive it for 45 minutes = without so much as a hiccup and then all of a sudden it will stall 3 = times in 5 minutes. any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. thanks ryan the information contained in this electronic mail transmission is = intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated = recipients named above. this message may also be attorney - client = privileged. if the reader of this message is not the intended recipient = or an agent or employee responsible for delivering it to the intended = recipient you are hereby notified that you have received this = transmission in error and that any review dissemination distribution = or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. if you received this = communication in error please notify us immediately via telephone. = thanks. =20 =20 ------=nextpart000042201c35462.6b3305e0 content-type text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=3dcontent-type content=3dtext/html; = charset=3diso-8859-1 meta content=3dmshtml 6.00.2800.1141 name=3dgenerator style/style /head body bgcolor=3d#ffffff divfont face=3darial size=3d2i have a 1995 dakota slt v8 4x4 = with 126000=20 miles on it that i use exclusively to tow my boat back and fourth to the = lakes.  recently it has developed a problem that mystifies both = myself and=20 my mechanic.  when driving it for a while after it has heated up = to normal=20 operating temperature it will abruptly stall out for no apparent = reason. =20 it doesnt sputter to a stop but rather just stops dead.  after = coasting to=20 the shoulder and waiting about a minute or so with the ignition off it = will=20 start right back up again as if nothing has happened.  i first = thought it=20 to be a fuel pump problem so we dropped the tank and replaced the fuel=20 pump.  didnt fix it although the broken fuel guage is now fixed = but=20 thats another story all together.  the mechanic looked everything = else=20 over connections plugs etc. and found nothing out of place yet the = problem=20 persists./font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2this truck has always been regularly = serviced and=20 is in perfect mechanical condition for 126000 miles and always starts = right=20 up.  unfortunately it will die at random when going down the=20 highway.  incidently it seems as though there is a greater = propensity for=20 it to die with the engine under a load ... in other words while = accelerating=20 off a light accelerating out of a turn or going up an incline.  it = also=20 seems as though the truck has to be up to normal operating temperature = for this=20 to happen.  i can drive it for 45 minutes without so much as a = hiccup and=20 then all of a sudden it will stall 3 times in 5 minutes./font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2any help or ideas would be greatly=20 appreciated./font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2thanks/font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2ryan/font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font&nb

From : tbone

careful tom vbg jerry doesnt handle truth well...unless its his definition of it. unfortunately neither does max as is evident by both of their posts. lol get some truth rather than insult and maybe there would be something to handle. lol their was nothing that was untrue just your inability to understand it. with your two degrees i though that you would understand the meaning of a loophole silly me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : nosey

max340 wrote what you keep failing to comprehend is light trucks which would never be sold as passenger sedans would never be bought by someone seeking a passenger sedan are not being used to get around the rules. have you forgotten the escalade and the . . .wait. . . those things are a truck suv car or any recognizable vehicle are they sorry!!! budd .

From : denny

actual if he wasnt so stupid he would have know a republican is not the sponsor of the bill. then again he seems to rely heavily on non factual information in all his posts. the sponsors as listed are from both parties. the originator is listed as snowe a republican from maine. it is noteworthy however that the most recognizable name on the bill is..... wait for it...... clinton democrat ny. max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : budd cochran

tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote actually starting off puts far more stress on the clutch then engine braking unless you are an idiot and try to use second gear at 60 mph to slow down. stress and wear are two entirely different things. and in case you havent noticed using the clutch to start out is essentially mandatory using it to slow the vehicle is optional. the optional part is based upon some myth that equates that what might be desireable when decending a mountain grade because of necessity is also a good thing to do at every given opportunity. i believe it to be one of the sub-rules of mores law what states if more is good too much is just right. this is just being silly. first of all if done correctly engine braking or downshifting puts no wear on the clutch. true if one doesnt use the clutch when downshifting/engine braking but that doesnt apply to 99% of the cowboys out there. perhaps you just dont know how to do it. hardly. im not the one complaining about parts failing. another advantage to downshifting is that you are always in the correct gear if you need to accelerate for some reason. not the same as engine braking. i have over 80000 miles and engine brake all of the time and so far no problems and still the factory clutch. proves nothing. lol it proves that downshifting does not destroy the clutch like you are claiming if done correctly. no it proves that -your- clutch hasnt failed yet nothing more nothing less. it is impossible to dis-engage and then re-engage a clutch disc and -not- have some wear occur no matter how good you think you are. why would you replace the pressure plate unless you gouged it in 33 years as a mechanic i have yet to see on that wasnt gouged at the time the friction disc needed replacement. if you wait for them to completely fail before you service it that would be expected. sort of like waiting for your brakes to grind before servicing them. so youre saying that everyone should have their transmission pulled for clutch inspection how often remember not all bellhousing allow for easy inspection of a clutch disc do you replace the drums and rotors every time you replace the pads and shoes absolutely. seems the chinese can make a brake rotor and supply it to me cheaper than the local prevailing labor rates allow for re-machining a used one. unfortunately not all of us can get these parts wholesale like you do. which can only mean that you are not a mechanic by profession and are not qualified to argue the point with me. also one doesnt need to search very long to find replacement brake friction material with a lifetime warranty not surprisingly similar warranties on clutch friction material seem to be non-existant. i wonder why pretty simple actually they sucker you for the free pads because they will get you on cutting or replacement rotors that usually dont need it you obviously need to get out a little more read all the automotive groups if there is one prevailing topic amongst posters in the auto groups its warped rotors. replacement calipers other misc parts that by pure numbers has a profit margin way above the cost of the parts due to numbers alone. ah i see repair shops arent allowed to make a profit. repair shops are also not allowed to assess the amount of liability they will be held to. every swingin dick out there is better equipped to determine the serviceability of used parts than a trained professional is. you know surpriseingly little. iirc labor is not included in the free replacement cost and i have yet to see this offered on the more expensive ceramic pads. plus the labor involved is usually a quick and easy to do. a clutch does not have as many parts to crank up the profit on and the labor is more involved so it makes little sense to make that offer. then by using your above arguement/logic it would be wise to stop using the clutch disc as a set of brake pads. thank you. also fyi lifetime brake pad/shoe warranty is offered by the manufacturer of those pads/shoes totally independant of anything that a repair shop might choose to up-sell and whether said parts warranty is or isnt offered is at the sole discretion of the shop installing those parts to begin with. not all shops offer a lifetime warranty even though the brake parts come with such warranty. i realize down shifting and engine braking is all macho and it almost makes it seem like your driving one of those big rigs with a jake brake on it where is this shit coming from. 33 years of experience. you seem to be a very narrow minded opinionated person. yes i am. do you justify everything that you dont understand what is it that you think i dont understand and having three whole pedals there on the floor can make things mighty confusing at times lol i can see with your ty

From : tbone

that is the whole point. are you really this stupid. if the auto-manufacturers want to make huge luxury vehicles then they either need to figure out a way to make them conform to requirements or pay the gas guzzler tax instead of just slapping a suv sticker on them. and what do you think will happen when they change the standards for suv and pickups. we are not going to give up what we want. that is not the american way. the car companies will find away around it. i want to be able to fly. i also want a billion dollars. yet i cant fly and am not rich. just because you want something doesnt mean that you will or even should have it. if you have a problem with suvs then blame the government for regulations. they forced the car companies to build them because consumers wanted them. lol where are you getting this from. the government sets regulations to protect the society that it governs. while i dont always agree with them i understand where they are comming from. consumer want to feel safe in their vehicles. they want their family to be safe. and thinking that an suv will do that is a wifes tale. they are no safer than any other vehicle and in many cases been proven to be less safe. sure if you hit a neon with your escalade you will probably do fine but if the next one is against a navigator you will probably do far worse than a neon hitting a stratus. car companies need to make a profit. it is hard to make a profit if you sell something that the consumer does not want to buy so if you add the regulations you are just going to force people to buy bigger vehicles that dont have to meet the standards. nobody if forcing anyone to buy anything. people buy what slick marketing tells them to. if you are so concerned about the safety of your family why would you buy a vehicle that doesnt meet the safety standards of others. it sounds more like a status symbol to me. if i have to buy a damn dump truck too drive a big car then thats what i will do. then sir you are the problem. and their are many others like me. the sad thing is that you are probably correct. government controls do not work because people have a yearning for freedom. please do not confuse a yearning for freedom with the typical greed selfishness and hatred for authority found in many americans. the freedom to sell a product that the consumer wants. but that must be balanced against what is best for the society as a whole. a freedom to make a profit. as long as you dont fuck everyone else over doing it. a freedom to decide what kind of vehicle is best for you and your family. sure from what is available. hell a m1 abrams would be far safer than anything else out there. should we all be driving them and if we run out of oil tomorrow i can guarantee you that we will have vehicle that run off other forms of energy. oh really and how are you going to back up this guarantee. why will we have these vehicles because consumers will demand it. and companies will have to produce them so they can make a profit. i think that you are forgetting about 1 key issue the laws of nature. sometimes things just cant be done regardless of potential profit. if you want cars that get 80 mile to an ear of corn. then consumers need to demand it instead of have the government regulate it. but the consumers will not demand it because like you they have this silly pipe dream that oil will last forever and if not then a new energy source will magically appear so there is no need to worry about it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

top post!!! the old sage speaks. you were probably there. nice to see that ya finally got unhooked from the machine roy a 1962 superstock 413 was a max wedge stage 1 with the crossram 2 carter afbs. it had 14 to 1 compression the max wedge heads cam cast iron headers. etc rated at 420 hp dodge did not make the fury that was a plymouth 1962 fuel injected corvette 327 365hp cars weighed approximately the same you do the math da money was on the street as in yo you wanna run for a $20 that indusrial engine doesnt remotely resemble the passenger car engines and very few parts interchange. the regular torqueflight doesnt fit since the flange on the crank is in a different location. worth not much probalbly get more money selling it by the pound for scrap iron i was talking about the restored ss dodge that t-bone mentioned having a match race with a corvette. was curious if the ss was a elephant and the corvette a mouse. guess it was in a mopar mag. roy .

From : denny

the sponsor is feinstein a democrat. go back and read all of the info jerry.... i already posted a list of the bills backers and olympia snowe r-maine was one of the co- sponsors and the list of supporters comes from both parties. max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : denny

hi i have a 1997 ram sport 1500 pickup 104k miles on it v8 5 litre 2wd i dont know what i was thinking. whenever i drive between 45-60mph with the overdrive on its on automatically the entire truck shakes terribly but when i turn it off it drives fine. i never knew a lot about automobiles so my only option was to turn to friends that knew how to work on them and theyre stumped as well. i was wondering if anyone has any ideas as to what the problem may be. also the check engine light is on im assuming that its something to do with the od but not certain as it hasnt been hooked up to a computer yet. the check engine light flashes however which i cant imagine is a postive thing. it only flashes though if i first hit 70 or gun it for whatever reason. any insight on this matter will be of tremendous help. thanks. tom .

From : tbone

flashing is an immediate sign to some bad trouble. if you need immediate help do this. go to your truck and rotate the key between the position where you console lights up but not starting the truck and the one right before it. go back and forth about 5 times and stop on the position with the console lighted up. your check engine will begin to flash codes... itll flash the first number then second number then pause then another code. 55 is the code to signify its complete. if you can get me the code i can tell you the problem that it is registering. also go to a local autozone or other parts store pretty quickly as they can check it for free. hi i have a 1997 ram sport 1500 pickup 104k miles on it v8 5 litre 2wd i dont know what i was thinking. whenever i drive between 45-60mph with the overdrive on its on automatically the entire truck shakes terribly but when i turn it off it drives fine. i never knew a lot about automobiles so my only option was to turn to friends that knew how to work on them and theyre stumped as well. i was wondering if anyone has any ideas as to what the problem may be. also the check engine light is on im assuming that its something to do with the od but not certain as it hasnt been hooked up to a computer yet. the check engine light flashes however which i cant imagine is a postive thing. it only flashes though if i first hit 70 or gun it for whatever reason. any insight on this matter will be of tremendous help. thanks. tom .

From : denny

no people that distort facts and basically lie because they dont like something but have no valid reason for it are extreemists and both sides have them. only in this case the extremists you are bitching about are the same extremists that you want to impose higher mpg standards. funny how one persons extremists are another persons.... well.... extremists. ill agree that nhtsa sucks all the way round but for you to dismiss their data as so much crap and in the same thread demand they impose their agenda on suvs is purely hypocritical liberal bullshit. i guess there was one more thing i could do to make you look foolish.... point at your latest self victimization and laugh mercilessly. max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : things planet earthroy

i called a dealer and asked what kind of hp my 5.9l had because i had no idea. the salesman did not enswer my question but he felt the need to tell me that my engine was a horrible motor and that dodge built it since 1972 and finally killed it off this year. is this true i was told the 5.9 l aka 360 cid was a tried and tested and reliable engine that has been improved year after year and now this dealer/salesman tells me that it is crap and to trust me..i have been selling them for like 20 years i realize this guy probably had a different story when he was selling them but just curious..is there any truth to what he said any comments would be appreciated thanks .

From : roy

thats right! so why do you invest so much time and expression into your arguments with people when they are notorious for resorting to sexual references because the vast majority of those that read the fact actually think about them instead of the locker room blabber. havent you learned yet lol you proving almost as amusing at some others..... no...the point here is i think that you must really enjoy rolling all the facts fancy words and bullshit off your finger tips just to pleasure yourself on proving people wrong. wrong. the point of all this is to get people to think about the stuff going on around them. using facts and proper communication happens to be the best way to do it. but hey...everybody has their own needs and emotional stability so who am i to criticize your livelihood right right especially since you jumped in this thread from nowhere havent posted in aadt that much and one of your more notable posts was bitching about the off topic discussions. perhaps your needs and emotional stability require that you randomly complain about something stupid im not arguing with ya...just stating the facts brother! whatever.... max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : tbone

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From : tbone

you cant get a hemi for under 22000 around here. and at that price you get absolutely nothing in the way of conveniences. its a 4x2 2 door swb stripped down vehicle. my 94 v-6 dakota is tired and wants to live elsewhere. i like the new ram equipped with the 5.7l hemi but know little about it. ill haul next to nothing but ass and it seems willing for such work. any downsides or recommendations im looking in the 21k price range.... tia.... .

From : denny

my dealer quotes the 21k for an slt which is a far cry from a stripper. it has all the bells and whistles i need. any comments on the hemi i believe it came out in mid-year and replaces their guzzler 5.9l. the only criticism ive heard from trucker types is that it gets power and performance from higher rpms than competitors. do i care you cant get a hemi for under 22000 around here. and at that price you get absolutely nothing in the way of conveniences. its a 4x2 2 door swb stripped down vehicle. my 94 v-6 dakota is tired and wants to live elsewhere. i like the new ram equipped with the 5.7l hemi but know little about it. ill haul next to nothing but ass and it seems willing for such work. any downsides or recommendations im looking in the 21k price range.... tia.... .

From : denny

on 31 jul 2003 075545 -0700 proteusdiver@hotmail.com stelios grigoriou wrote when driving it for a while after it has heated up to normal operating temperature it will abruptly stall out for no apparent reason. it doesnt sputter to a stop but rather just stops dead. after coasting to the shoulder and waiting about a minute or so with the ignition off it will start right back up again as if nothing has happened. **i had something similiar it was in the harness under the fuse box. there is a joint where a bunch of green wires come together and there is a ring used to hold them all together when soldered. seems the vibration/heat will make the main single feed to that joint come part and it will shut down the fuel pump.. i changed relays etc.. to no avail.. finally i hot wired the fuel pump and it stopped and traced it back.. wiggy the wire harness under the fuse box and along the firewall is a good test. fyi jr .

From : denny

on sat 02 aug 2003 130229 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote $4750 and a picture of my 87 lebaron denny denny if you really want to scare the shit out of him send a picture of yourself in the friggin pink rabbit suit. bfg i think he looks slimmer in the white bunny suit... nah white makes things look bigger. thats why i dont own white t shirts. roy .

From : denny

nah white makes things look bigger. thats why i dont own white t shirts. roy nope im not gonna say it not at all. im just gonna sit here and keep my fingers still. it really hurts but im not gonna type it............ denny it wont hurt if ya keep all yer fingers on the keyboard.bg roy .

From : denny

hell i thought they were pink truck covers for a friggin kenworth. gbfg which means that if you would let the seams out just a tad they may come close to fitting your gut!! vbfg denny .

From : denny

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From : denny

if they are going to change out the sensors and valve body why dont you just get a full rebuild i doubt that it would cost a whole lot more. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hello all i have a 99 cummins 2500 quad cab with an automatic transmission. it begain to not shift out of first or second when it is cold. two days ago the it started to shift in between each gear until it gets to 65mph then it either stays in third without the overdrive and the convertor locked up or its in overdrive and the convertor isnt locking up. it seems more like the later but its hard to tell how many gears it changes and its turning 2200 rpms at 70 mph which when everything is locked up and in overdrive it should be around 1900 to 1950. i took it to the dealer today to get the codes scanned and it didnt have any. so the dealer wants to change the senors and the valve body out on it at a pretty price and then if that doesnt they said they might try a new pcm the main computer i think the parts manager was talking about. my haynes manual only went to 96 so im going to look for a 99 haynes for it now. it has around134000 miles out of warranty on it. any help on where to start would be appreciated. will .

From : denny

i second tom. dont go somewhere that is going to play the guessing game with your hard earned $$$. take it to a real trans shop and have them diagnose the problem. if you are going to be replacing the valve bodies and sensors a complete rebuild would be a a better idea and would end up being cheaper. hope this helps. carl hello all i have a 99 cummins 2500 quad cab with an automatic transmission. it begain to not shift out of first or second when it is cold. two days ago the it started to shift in between each gear until it gets to 65mph then it either stays in third without the overdrive and the convertor locked up or its in overdrive and the convertor isnt locking up. it seems more like the later but its hard to tell how many gears it changes and its turning 2200 rpms at 70 mph which when everything is locked up and in overdrive it should be around 1900 to 1950. i took it to the dealer today to get the codes scanned and it didnt have any. so the dealer wants to change the senors and the valve body out on it at a pretty price and then if that doesnt they said they might try a new pcm the main computer i think the parts manager was talking about. my haynes manual only went to 96 so im going to look for a 99 haynes for it now. it has around134000 miles out of warranty on it. any help on where to start would be appreciated. will .

From : denny

$4750 and a picture of my 87 lebaron denny yea thats real fair like using a moab to kill a fly. but im not scscscsaarrrd. $4700 -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving as you well should be. i have a female teenager in the house backing me up. $4600 denny .

From : tbone

as you well should be. i have a female teenager in the house backing me up. $4600 denny go cari !!! help dad spend his money and you wont ever have to try a clam or shrimp again.gbg roy dont you have to go clean tile or something bg denny .

From : roy

ok the belts off. the ps pulley moves slightly in and out but doesnt rock. the water pump pulley does rock up/down side-to-side. i suspect this is the problem. im surprised i dont have a leak. ** due to spam i no longer receive email responses to ** group postings so dont bother. .

From : roy

$4750 and a picture of my 87 lebaron denny denny if you really want to scare the shit out of him send a picture of yourself in the friggin pink rabbit suit. bfg roy yea thats real fair like using a moab to kill a fly. but im not scscscsaarrrd. $4700 -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving as you well should be. i have a female teenager in the house backing me up. $4600 denny .

From : mac davis

maybe nonapplicable to you but i can ride with another driver and tell if they get good mileage or not. all you have to do is watch their right foot. my son gets bad mileage with anything he drives because his foot is always moving up and down. not a lot but just a little. in ye ole days the carburetor throttle pump squirted a stream everytime your foot went down. i assume theres a comparable action with fuel injection systems but i know squat about them.... this may be comparing apples to oranges but i have never gotten good gas mileage out of a pickup. all mine were older 34 ton models and it didnt seem to make any difference loaded or unloaded uphill or downhill forewards or backwards coasting or engine off they all got about the same mileage. had everything from a slant 6 to a 400 v8 and inbetween too. i prefered the big blocks because if i was going to get lousy gas mileage i might as well have the power. i had a 67 that i replaced the 318 with a 383 and got better mileage with the 383 than the 318. its a pickup not an economy car phxbrd wrote how does the dealer explain the 11.1 mpg new engine tightness shouldnt matter that much should it i dont like the sound of that... my 2001 5.9l increased about 5mpg from new till about 15k. thats a totally new one for me. ive never heard that and ive always gotten almost exactly what the sticker claimed right from the beginning. am i the only one .

From : royroy

$4750 and a picture of my 87 lebaron denny denny if you really want to scare the shit out of him send a picture of yourself in the friggin pink rabbit suit. bfg roy i cant. i take it you havent looked behind the seats in the vette yet. cari snuck all the bunny suits to you when we were out shooting the shit. height wise they will fit you ok but they will be very tight around the middle on you. i guess easter is gonna come from the east coast next year!! denny .

From : royroy

$4750 and a picture of my 87 lebaron denny denny if you really want to scare the shit out of him send a picture of yourself in the friggin pink rabbit suit. bfg roy i cant. i take it you havent looked behind the seats in the vette yet. cari snuck all the bunny suits to you when we were out shooting the shit. nice try chubs in case ya didnt notice the 06 has a trunk. perhaps cari under the influence of the forced fed shrimp put them in another car. now that i think about it with all the bunny suits you have crammed into the van you couldnt get 1/4 of them into the vette. hell i thought they were pink truck covers for a friggin kenworth. gbfg sue tells me to get going we are out to see pirates of something and dinner. roy height wise they will fit you ok but they will be very tight around the middle on you. i guess easter is gonna come from the east coast next year!! denny .

From : denny

test test test test test test test .

From : tbone

well budd i thought that we were past this crap but i guess that i was wrong. in what way am i either correcting you or attacking you from what i can see you did post this on a public forum and iirc i am allowed to comment on things posted on such a forum if i want to. when you post like this you need to expect that people may comment on it. if you dont want that then you really need to keep it out of here. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving geeze tom. just had to correct me didnt you or am i like you and he allowed to express myself for once it read at first like a reply in the conversation wed been having then the comment about someone to me since i first saw it in email it seemed he implied me directly thinking dc was god. i reminded him that many of the things he considers to be standard equipment on all vehicles seat belts a/c etc. were first developed by chrysler engineers. yes to me it was an attack and i felt that my efforts did not justify such treatment. and i dont believe what i posted here based upon that email from him justifies such treatment as you have given me either. tbone wrote gees budd you take things far to personally in here. perhaps he accidentally hit the reply button instead of the reply group button since the exact thing was also posted to the ng. it is easy to do with lookout express. but even if he did send it to you directly big deal. he didnt attack you or even say that you were wrong he simply voiced his opinions on the situation. i completely agree with him on two of his issues. 9 brakes are too small to be used on a pu and serviceability has become a distant thought in the building of many new vehicles. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving this clown sent this post to me direct because i guess i had been trying to help him. i dont consider his action appropriate in light of my effort to help him. i dont know what i did to warrant receiving this tirade other than trying to be helpful. he is now on my blocked email list. budd dick wrote i used the booster & mc off the same vehicle a 2000 durango. didnt think i could go wrong with that combo. i assumed with so many people complaning about high pedal preasure that chrysler engineers had screwed up on the 97-98. they changed the design in 99 to something that works good. they could have kept the bolt pattern the same on the booster so that the newer model would easily interchange. rear brake drums of 9 dia is a design flaw on a pickup 10 was optional then 11 in 2000 & now rear disc. cant blame dc for the 97 it was chrysler then. my 88 dakota had 9 also changed the axle on that when it failed to a 10 posi setup with heavyer springs off doner truck wish i had it back. chrysler removed the front axle disconnect on new series so now the front end parts wear out. my front c/v are worn out too as a result. ball joints on old 88 had 150k on them & were still tight. this 97 is ready for its 3rd. set no grease fittings on orginal equip i bought moog with grease fittings & lifetime warrany this time. i had complete pedal travel to the floor when bleeding so travel is not an issue. damiler chrysler is not god they screw up more than most auto manufactures. there designs do not take into account that these vehicles will have to be serviced economicaly. having to remove the fender liner to remove the mastercylinder is not resonable nor is removing the dashboard to replace the heater or ac componets. i have read reports of owerers of 2001 durango having to replace the heater core 3-5 times allready at $800 a pop. probably not a future dc customer! and i am a former employee of chrysler. dick you went with a smaller size master cylinder iirc which give you a mechanical advantage which lowers pedal pressure but requires more pedal travel to do the job. you may have reduced your reserve pedal to a less than safe amount by doing so. remember i did not recommend a smaller cylinder.. .

From : denny

let me get this right you bent your wiper arm. you took it into a dealer that broke your bent wiper arm. you are now mad. me thinks you are a lifeless old bastard that has way too much time on his hands. god help us all if the neighbors dog would tinkle on your lawn. denny i been screwed by a dodge dealer look at my website to see that paybacks are a bitch! www.advantagedodge.com .

From : tbone

sorry to burst your bubble but it will do no such thing. actually it will probably reduce both. the engine and computer were set up with the understanding that it will be in place. then you can add that it is illegal to remove it and doing so may also void your warranty. if you really want more hp look into a supercharger and as for increasing mileage i think that you will be sol with that small of an engine trying to move that much weight. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving thinking it might increase fuel mileage and or horsepower. why do you want to remove the converter -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving anyone had success of removing the convertor. what were the results .

From : denny

i read a number of questions regarding a/c squeal or loud screeching sounds coming from the 3.0l dodge caravan when a/c is turned on. this is fairly common with the dodge caravan and is generally caused by noisy pulley bearings. note; the reason the screech may not happen all the time is that when you select a/c you are adding an additional load to the belt which it otherwise does not have to support. its when you add that load the pulley bearing is put under increased stress. the following may help some situations. when you look under the hood you will see two belts. the longer belt called the serpentine belt that connects alternator power steering etc and the smaller a/c belt that drives the a/c compressor unit. the a/c belt is tightened with a tensioner pulley which you will see as the uppermost pulley wheel to the right of the platic water/coolant resevoir. if you hear squeal or screeching try the following; 1. replace the a/c belt and grease or replace the a/c belt tensioner pulley wheel to remove the belt and tensioner pulley; ======================================== to do that you need to undo the belt tensioner pulley bolt with a 15mm socket or wrench and then lower the tensioner pulley by turning the adjusting nut on the right of the tensioner pulley anti-clockwise until the tensioner pulley lowers enough to remove the belt. you can remove the entire pulley wheel at this time. to replace the belt and wheel ============================= to replace with a new belt and tensioner pulley is the reverse of the above make sure you adjust the a/c belt tension to the correct taughtness before tightening the 15mm pulley bolt. correct tightness means it should be very taught and have little vertical movement. you will want to run the engine to see that the belt is seated properly. alternative to replacing the tensioner pulley ============================================= an alternative to the expense of replacing the tensioner pulley is to grease the existing one. i personally recommend you do this first befor ebuying a replacement. to do that take apart the a/c tensioner pulley by gently removing the two black circular ball bearing covers on the pulley wheel you will see one on each side of the pulley . you can remove them by gently inserting a flat bladed screwdriver down the side and they will pop off quite easily. you will now see the actual ball bearing races themselves. clean these out you can use a commercial cleaner but gasoline works just as good and repack the ball bearings with a good amount of bearing grease ie heavy duty grease. do not use a lubricant spray. replace the 2 black circular ball bearing covers and put the tensioner back on the vehicle as above. check the belt tension from time to time to ensure that it has not stretched or loosened. .

From : denny

since nobody was able to help with the computerized approach i pulled out the wiring diagrams. i decided to remove the fog lamp relay and install a fused jumper to the fog lamps from an unused run circuit fuse. now i have the fog lamps on as my drls. a clean solution that can be reversed in under a minute. on thu 07 aug 2003 215912 gmt nomail@mail.net wrote from what i read i can get daytime running lights enabled by setting the front lighting control modules country code to canada. i went down to my neighborhood dodge dealer and we hooked up their odbiii scan tool and walked through the many menu options. unfortunately we could not figure out where or how to set the county code. could some kind sole tell me how to get to the option to change the country code .

From : tbone

is only $50.00 as of 8-11-03 for a brand nen window lastday .

From : tbone

john i plan to trade my 97 5.9 gas truck on a new cummins ho 6 speed. i made the decision after towing my 5500 lb trailer cross country. my daily driver is an 01 vw beetle tdi. ive come to appreciate the attributes of the diesel engine with this car. there is one hill on a side road here that the vw will climb faster than anything ive ever owned. you sound like a fan of manual transmissions; with the torque of any good diesel they are as easy to drive as automatics only more fun. drive the 2500 ctd and i think youll forget about the 1500 even being an option! check out the discussion forums at http//www.turbodieselregister.com for everything you need to know! looking for some help deciding between 3/4 ton gas/diesel. since i dont tow much my reflex is to go gas... just by the new hemi. but here are my parameters... 1. i live at 9500 and my commute takes me up and down the mountain. i want an engine/tranny combo thats well suited for this over the years. making this climb one or more times a day will a diesel last longer... all other things being equal 2. i want the best fuel efficiency so will diesel fare better in making the climb than gas 3. for performance and safety winter mountain driving i want a manual transmission. unless im wrong that rules out the new 1500. 4. i will on occaision tow equipment up to my place for excavation landscaping work etc. so basically i need a really good utility vehicle that i can count on for years. i dont have a religious preference gas or diesel im just looking to make the sensible choice. suggestions/comments thanks. .

From : tbone

thanks mike. appreciate the info. delaer said i had 2 computer code warnings one medium level one large i presume pertaining to size of leak detected. they have it in today will post the results. todd we use the smoke generator on almost a daily basis. the new evaporative emissions systems are pretty finicky even the slightest leak will set a check engine light. your dealer will connect a smoke generator to your system and fill it will cool smoke and visually inspect for leaks. some of the components are located in places that are damned near impossible to see. hopefully your leak will be obvious and quick to correct. some of the more common sources of leaks that i have seen are the fuel cap evap purge solenoid and fuel pump module sealing ring. not a big deal really just a pita to do! ^ chryco service manager member sae fuel vapor leak is what they are checking for with the smoke test. anyone else been down this road thanks todd on my second trip back for engine light coming on. first try was ssuspected gas cap. repalced back on a week later. they are going to have to run a smoke test through it to find the leak. say the check system is too sensitive. not sure if they said vaccum or emmission leak - think emmsisions. anyone had this yet this is on a brand new 2400 milkes 2003 ram hemi. thanks todd .

From : tbone

you dont need no steenkin newton-meter! just use a glass cookie jar like i do that way you can tell at a glance when your newtons are runnin low! ^ mike gad! i just figured that one out. i dont even want to think of a comeback to that one!! bg denny .

From : denny

doug; id say 30 is a bit low i like to see a minimum of 40 in an r-134a system but will defer to cbhvacs expertise on this one. g a/c malfunction continued so i take my truck into my local 5 sphincter dealer since im going to south dakota from san francisco and with all of nevada and the utah salt flats in front of me i aint goin without a/c... i leave the truck with them for nine count em nine days. fred the wrinkled shirted crooked necktied service writer calls me and says the system was pressure tested ultraviolet dye was injected and no leaks were found so they re-charged the system and it now blows cold as can be.... upon my return to pick up the truck i switch on the a/c and it is the same as when i dropped it off. no a/c! the service writer grabs his trusty ultraviolet light and starts scrambling all over the front end of the truck and can find no evidence of dye indicating a leak anywhere. service writer suggests i leave truck for another week so they can check further into the problem. my reply is sorry pal you just had nine days and fixed nothing. i gotta go to sd so check it now. i leave truck for rest of day. that afternoon service idiot calls me and sez they found failure in a/c lines condensor also evaporator. recommend to replace and recheck. at a cost of $1500+. i asked him about calling dodge to inquire about a good-will repair since the failure was so dramatic involving virtually every part of the a/c system short of the compressor. i pointed out that he could see the truck has very low mileage is obviously in perfect condition. i also indicated he had the records in front of him demonstrating a religious maintenance regimen and lastly is barely a year out of warranty. i further indicated that as someone with many years of experience with a certain american motorcycle manufacturer it was not impossible and certainly worth a try at the least. he refused this request acting as if he had never heard of such a thing. i actually told them over the phone to do the job since i had all that desert etc. to cross but fortunately the service flack told me they did not have all the parts in stock and couldt do the work until two days after my scheduled departure. thus i figured id take the truck tough out the drive and have it fixed in sunny south dakota since i was gonna be there for two weeks and discomfort aside id at least save money on labor compared to the bay area. knowing they used the dye i return to retrieve my truck and ask them to show me the leaks at the places mentioned. nothing was visible to my untrained eye. except at the valve where the dye was injected where any fool could see flourescent greenish-yellow fluid all over the nipple black light or not. i climb into the truck and flip on the a/c. voila! it is blowing cold! the next day it blew cold and the day after that too. i checked the pressure in the low pressure line daily and it remained the same day after day. so we loaded up and headed out to sd. that was two weeks ago yesterday. 16 days and 4000 miles later im still waiting for the leaking a/c to stop working! even in temps of well over 100 max ac cooled the interior to comfortable levels quickly and if i aimed the left vent at my hand i had to re-adjust it cause my hand got numb from the cold. all of which leads me to one last question; what is the correct pressure i should be seeing on the low line mine has not varied by a pound in over two weeks. i reads in the 30 lb range but it does jump up and down by about five pounds as the compressor cycles on and off. i also have frost forming which gary indicated is a possible sign of low pressure. as always tia doug .

From : denny

tom thought you might want to know that i found and fixed the problem. the sensor in the rearend checked out ok the way you said to test it....as i was crawling out from under the truck i noticed one connection that i didnt see earlier...it is where the coated 2 wire changes to regular twisted two wire via a snap connect plug...located on the frame just above and behind the gas tank...i didnt catch it earlier and just for kicks i unplugged it cleaned it a little and reconnected it and that was it...one stupid simple connection caused all the problems and 3 days of hunting but at least it is fixed. thanks again for all the input info and help...i really appreciate it. paul to my mechanic and he told me to never disconect the neg batter when dash lights like that come on because it clears the error codes. that would be why your truck wasnt giving out any error codes. you dealer should have known this. no. the abs system is its own self-contained unit and doesnt set engine diagnostic codes. most generic scanners wont talk to the abs computer so theyre useless in determining abs faults. fortunately the earlier relatively speaking... 94-97 rams allow you to output abs codes via the method discussed here. guys with later-model trucks are pretty much sol when the abs light starts glowing .

From : mac davis

so no ones tried the trailmaster ssvs i too had an explorer i ran rancho 9000s with a 2 inch home made suspension lift. i didnt care for the ride... sean rec.bicycles.marketplace .

From : denny

there is a service bulletin regarding the problem with the ac drain hose. if you really had that much water insist they replace the carpet and padding under warranty or you will have mold growing and rotting in it soon unless you got it dried out immediately the one time it happened. my 02 dakota leaks water into the pasanger compartment but not all the time. the truck is still under warrenty and i am taking it in to be fixed. i pulled the heat shield off that covers the drain and it is dripping but it still has flodded the pasanger side as well as the back seat of the truck. i vacumed out about 2 gallons of water so my wife didnt have to sit in a puddle on the way home from camp. has anybody else had thi happen and what was done to correct it. .

From : roy

i have trailmaster ssvs they have been great... on and off road with and without a slide-in camper. from iamgoode@aol.com iamgoode organization aol http//www.aol.com date 20 aug 2003 141525 gmt subject re better shocks edelbrock/trailmaster/rancho so no ones tried the trailmaster ssvs i too had an explorer i ran rancho 9000s with a 2 inch home made suspension lift. i didnt care for the ride... sean rec.bicycles.marketplace . 222 266409 txr0b.157303$cf.55651@rwcrnsc53 maybe but you still have to inhale sometime although with all of the bs that tends to go on in here i can see why you would try to avoid it. i cant argue that.. g the east coasters are the only ones that can speak the language correctly. $6999.99 and a snow blower and he can keep the plow since i doubt that i will need either one in nc. if he keeps the blade what is he going to do with it hang it on sues eldo $6999.99 and a book on how to train the dog to use a shovel. how about i train sue to use a shovel nah this is where self preservation kicks in.g roy denny .

From : roy

lol!!!!!!!!! hey you said you werent going to tell my big secret !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! g you have them on the challenger dont ya i heard they shave off a couple of tenths denny .

From : denny

posting order rearranged to bottom-post for readability robert westbrook wrote james c. reeves wrote robert westbrook wrote | would it be a fairly simple matter for me to get daytime running | lamps working in my 1999 ram 1500 van with the 360 127 wheelbase | would it be as easy as getting some mopar module and plugging it | into an empty socket or more involved | | thanks. just use the light switch and save the $$$. after a while it will become routine habit. well i would but the vehicle is being imported to canada where the law says the lights must come on without driver intervention. there are places that will do the mod up there at the time of importation but i was hoping i might save and do it myself before i arrive. im interested in this. besides if im not mistaken the drl module runs your parking lamps on the bright i.e. turn signal filament and makes them stand out better during the day which is the whole point i thought. a little off-topic but take a close look at the next late-model firebird camaro or corvette you see going down the road. also do the tail lights come on with drl module im curious too because id like to have drl on my 90 daytona es as well just to have them. -- / | /

From : roy

on wed 20 aug 2003 044033 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote maybe but you still have to inhale sometime although with all of the bs that tends to go on in here i can see why you would try to avoid it. i cant argue that.. g the east coasters are the only ones that can speak the language correctly. $6999.99 and a snow blower and he can keep the plow since i doubt that i will need either one in nc. if he keeps the blade what is he going to do with it hang it on sues eldo $6999.99 and a book on how to train the dog to use a shovel. denny couldnt he vent the group outside and just melt all the snow with hot air wouldnt that have some kind of effect on global warming talk about overkill.... g denny .

From : denny

looking for information on the 2 mentioned engines. i purchased a 1988 ram 50 with a g54b 2.6 that the previous owner decided to drive with the balance shaft bearings done in and we all know the concequenses of this. anyhow not really paying attention i bought a 2.6 from a junkyard and realized that the dowel pins for the transmission do not line up about an inch in the difference. my question to everyone; can i use the crankshaft from the g54 in the g54b. i have asked for assistance from dodge and still waiting a reply. thanks bubs .

From : redneck tookover hell

maybe but you still have to inhale sometime although with all of the bs that tends to go on in here i can see why you would try to avoid it. i cant argue that.. g the east coasters are the only ones that can speak the language correctly. $6999.99 and a snow blower and he can keep the plow since i doubt that i will need either one in nc. if he keeps the blade what is he going to do with it hang it on sues eldo $6999.99 and a book on how to train the dog to use a shovel. how about i train sue to use a shovel nah this is where self preservation kicks in.g which one of these offers are you going to take none of them mentioned you delivering it so you dont have to move out of your chair just sign the piece of paper and count the cash. g denny .

From : mac davis

i have been reading the discussions about gas mileage with and without cruise control and i always thought that you got better mileage with cruise control. i conducted a short unscientific test and came up with the following ram 1500 with 4.7 engine and auto transmission. there is a 2.1 mile flat circle around a mall here in sunrise fl. i drove around the circle at 32 mph with cruise control on and got 22.3 mpg on the indicator. without cruise control and trying very hard to keep the same speed i got 23.1 mpg. both trips there was no traffic and i was able to hold the speed more exact without cruise control. with c/c on i could feel the little surges and coasts and this is probably responsible for the increased mileage. i know that this might not translate into the same results at 70 mph on a highway but i think that it might. cruise control is handy and i will continue to use it on the highway but i think that i could get a little better mileage without it. the trade-off would be that i would have to really pay attention to my foot on the gas pedal and concentrate. don d. .

From : roy

that looks like it. i got the low voltage model which burns the low-beam headlights at something like 57% of the full brightness. they are on they are visible but they are not obnoxiously bright. one caveat if you do this i thought i had broken the high beam switch in my truck one night. i stopped and turned the headlights off. the drl box kept them on at reduced brightness. when i got back on the road i couldnt get the high beams to come on. big duuhhhh!! i forgot to turn the headlights back on. only done it one time though. greg on thu 21 aug 2003 091953 gmt robert westbrook swampfoot@cox.net wrote does this look like the right thing http//www.jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jhtmlcatid=5139&bq=jcw2 i wonder which of those three i should get i am only concerned with the headlights in the case of canadian regulations for imported vehicles - they only require the headlights be on not the signal/hazards. greg surratt glsurratt@att.net wrote on wed 20 aug 2003 142656 -0400 circuit breaker /dev/null@127.0.0.1 wrote im interested in this. besides if im not mistaken the drl module runs your parking lamps on the bright i.e. turn signal filament and makes them stand out better during the day which is the whole point i thought. also do the tail lights come on with drl module no. im curious too because id like to have drl on my 90 daytona es as well just to have them. jc whitney sells a couple modules for about $20. one wire to a headlight wire one to the alternator. .

From : denny

mike simmons wrote snipped i know tom and you are absolutely correct it sadly does happen but to listen to some in this ng it sounds like every dealer is a crook and that is painting with a mighty broad brush. mike had an experience with a toyota dealer a few years ago. my wifes 91 corolla was near the 30000 mile mark and we had it in for service. i always check fluid levels and knew the tranny fluid was clean and smelled good. since it was due for a tranny fluid change we had it done. the service manager came out with a jar of foul smelling thick black crap and told us it was a good thing we changed it. i darn near busted him in the mouth. he wouldnt admit it of course but he sure sputtered a lot. now i think id have taken the jar from him and sent it in for analysis. hd in ny .

From : redneck tookover hell

man. i have a 93 dak that the fuel pump went out about 2 years ago and i just went on down to autozone and got one for less that $200 and put it in myself. it took longer by me doing as i havent ever dropped the tank before so i had to figure it out but $800 seems quite high to me. i know there are a coupla service managers who hang out here so i thought id ask if $700 plus change seems like a reasonable figure to replace a fuel pump on a 97 dak. they quoted $400 and something for the pump less than $200 at napa and the rest was labor 2 hours and 15 minutes from the time they called for approval till the time they called and said it was ready for pickup. seems awfully high to me....thats at least $150 per hour just for the labor!! but id be happy to hear some rationale. .

From : tbone

maybe but you still have to inhale sometime although with all of the bs that tends to go on in here i can see why you would try to avoid it. i cant argue that.. g the east coasters are the only ones that can speak the language correctly. $6999.99 and a snow blower and he can keep the plow since i doubt that i will need either one in nc. if he keeps the blade what is he going to do with it hang it on sues eldo he can see it and increase his income on the truck $6999.99 and a book on how to train the dog to use a shovel. sorry but his keeping the plow and my snow blower add up to more value than your shovel and book. try again - denny -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : denny

sorry but his keeping the plow and my snow blower add up to more value than your shovel and book. try again - maybe it was a really good book!! bg ok the standard price and if it does snow ill pay a neighbor kid to run the shovel.. denny .

From : tbone

sorry but his keeping the plow and my snow blower add up to more value than your shovel and book. try again - maybe it was a really good book!! bg no book is that good bg ok the standard price and if it does snow ill pay a neighbor kid to run the shovel.. nope still not good enough. the snow blower alone is worth more than that and i am including the plow he already has. hell he can even keep the blizzacks probably spelled wrong. with a cheap set of steel rims he can mount them and the plow on the vette and have one kick-ass sport plow lol. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .