OT Need info on police/fire scanners
From : daguyroy
Q: on sun 16 nov 2003 015123 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote on sat 15 nov 2003 232705 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote im sure it is when you are out snipe hunting. right mike eg wal mart in misery probably sells bass boats i heard its one of the easier ways for a woman to get a man down there g from the man in the midst of a 3 year fling with the machine bfg hey denny!! please post the pic of reds current love. roy after i found out he was trying to sell the machine i was so disappointed that i didnt save the link. ill try to find it again. red without the machine is like pizza without the cheese a diesel without the stink sex without sheep thats for you dale....ect bg denny max without t-bone t-bone without max budd without theguy/t-bone gary without beekeep denny without the pink rabbit suit beekeep without budd me without john he was the best i know hes lurking..... ect. gbmfg who was john john was my old best friend from a couple of years ago. late one friday night i assume after a couple of beers he went into a meltdown that i have never seen before or after went on for hours. anyway he could spar better than anyone ive seen since also had some truck knowledge as well.you can probably do a google and find it. believe me it is worth the read. roy man i think that was another of my alter egos roy some time back. was this the one where you supposedly found john on a gay forum so i threatened to sue you for defamation this is like a phil hendrie rerun man. he was one of my best. .
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From : daguy
on sun 16 nov 2003 020030 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy this was discussed here not too long back i think. the idea of the computer controlled trunked 800 frequency was that it would put the programmable scanners out of business. motorola designed this thing basically. the way it was supposed to work was like this the cop in the car talks on the radio to the dispatch center actually through a repeater almost always but same idea and as the cop does so the computer picks a frequency with-in the designated 800 band. the dispatch center then talks back to the officer and once again the computer picks a frequency with-in the 800 band for this to take place on. every broadcast then is supposed to happen on a seperate frequency with-in the designated 800 band. the computer knows who is supposed to be on that talk group and allows all members electronically to know what the frequency is so all legal users hear all of the conversations without any hitch. the constant change of frequency however was supposed to mess up the scanners. the scanners have a delay built into them. when one frequency drops off they go back into scan mode and have to find another broadcast within the scan range. what motorola wanted to happen was for the scanner to pick up on a whole different talk group if you are scanning different talk groups or to miss the second broadcast or most of it if you were only scanning the one talk group however there are usually a whole bunch of different psas on each frequency bands. so that people scanning would not be able to get more than one broadcast out of a group of broadcasts. now the big question is whether or not it works. i have no interest in scanning psas so i dont know personally but people that say the cheap 800 scanners from radio shack work perfect and pick up all sides of almost every conversation. so much for american technology. .
From : nathan collierfmb
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From : bdk
been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy www.strongsignals.net all the info you could ever want. what town are you in some areas use trunked radio and that requires one of the bells and whistle scanners to recieve well. bdk .
From : jerry
daguy wrote now the big question is whether or not it works. i have no interest in scanning psas so i dont know personally but people that say the cheap 800 scanners from radio shack work perfect and pick up all sides of almost every conversation. so much for american technology. i have a radio shack pro-91 trunk tracking 800 mhz that picks up both sides of the conversation. this is a hand held model that i use at home but it works great. its not suppose to pick up cordless phone conversations but it does. jerry .
From : fmb
we use a motorola 800 mhz trunked radio system. it is quite interesting once you understand how it works. we have 10 repeaters with one being the controler. it was intended as one of your other responders stated to avoid outsiders to catch the entire conversation. well it doesnt work that way anymore. you can get a trunk tracker scanner and program all the frequencies and have a ball listening in. first though you need to understand what frequencies are in use for the agencies you want to listen to. some use 800 mhz some 900 mhz some are still in the stone age. lol i told my know it all son that you couldnt listen in on our conversations. he bought a small handheld scanner from rs and proved me wrong. lol fmb only one b in fmb been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy .
From : daguy
on sun 16 nov 2003 032110 gmt jerry jlrice@earthlink.net wrote daguy wrote now the big question is whether or not it works. i have no interest in scanning psas so i dont know personally but people that say the cheap 800 scanners from radio shack work perfect and pick up all sides of almost every conversation. so much for american technology. i have a radio shack pro-91 trunk tracking 800 mhz that picks up both sides of the conversation. this is a hand held model that i use at home but it works great. its not suppose to pick up cordless phone conversations but it does. jerry lol. that is what i have heard. maybe it sort of explains why motorola has been having some problems. they also sold the 800 system to psas telling them it would solve all their problems. psas have found that there are an incredible number of dead spots around some caused by nextel but some by poor design. i remember when a bunch of police groups threatened to sue motorola because they could not transmit out of many buildings. motorola looked into it and their response was that the system was only designed to transmit through four inch or less wood walls and if they wanted anything more they would have to pay to upgrade their equipment. yep american business at its best. .
From : roy
been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy www.strongsignals.net all the info you could ever want. what town are you in some areas use trunked radio and that requires one of the bells and whistle scanners to recieve well. bdk thanks for the site. tons of info. roy .
From : iman nassoul
the privacy was touted as a benefit but the main reason to go to a trunked system is that each city service police fire dog catcher streets etc. gets their own talkgroups but the city only needs 10 or so frequencies to service them all. fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote we use a motorola 800 mhz trunked radio system. it is quite interesting once you understand how it works. we have 10 repeaters with one being the controler. it was intended as one of your other responders stated to avoid outsiders to catch the entire conversation. well it doesnt work that way anymore. you can get a trunk tracker scanner and program all the frequencies and have a ball listening in. first though you need to understand what frequencies are in use for the agencies you want to listen to. some use 800 mhz some 900 mhz some are still in the stone age. lol i told my know it all son that you couldnt listen in on our conversations. he bought a small handheld scanner from rs and proved me wrong. lol fmb only one b in fmb been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy .
From : gary glaenzer
and there was a provision for priority in which for example fire and police comm would take precedence over low-priority comm such as park maintenance or dog catcher i helped install the first smr-type trunked systen in hannibal mo in 1982 had 5 repeaters and antenna on the kgrc tower the privacy was touted as a benefit but the main reason to go to a trunked system is that each city service police fire dog catcher streets etc. gets their own talkgroups but the city only needs 10 or so frequencies to service them all. fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote we use a motorola 800 mhz trunked radio system. it is quite interesting once you understand how it works. we have 10 repeaters with one being the controler. it was intended as one of your other responders stated to avoid outsiders to catch the entire conversation. well it doesnt work that way anymore. you can get a trunk tracker scanner and program all the frequencies and have a ball listening in. first though you need to understand what frequencies are in use for the agencies you want to listen to. some use 800 mhz some 900 mhz some are still in the stone age. lol i told my know it all son that you couldnt listen in on our conversations. he bought a small handheld scanner from rs and proved me wrong. lol fmb only one b in fmb been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy .
From : ken s
jerry my handheld pro90 does the same.. yours probably has a few more bells and whistles. http//www.policescanner.8m.com/ has links to some frequencies that are interesting. ken daguy wrote now the big question is whether or not it works. i have no interest in scanning psas so i dont know personally but people that say the cheap 800 scanners from radio shack work perfect and pick up all sides of almost every conversation. so much for american technology. i have a radio shack pro-91 trunk tracking 800 mhz that picks up both sides of the conversation. this is a hand held model that i use at home but it works great. its not suppose to pick up cordless phone conversations but it does. jerry .
From : daguyfmb
on sun 16 nov 2003 222227 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 16 nov 2003 040646 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote man i think that was another of my alter egos roy some time back. was this the one where you supposedly found john on a gay forum so i threatened to sue you for defamation this is like a phil hendrie rerun man. he was one of my best. no wasnt a gay forum nor was it one of your alter egos. roy yeah i think it was roy. you might be surprised at who some of my alter egos were. dont flatter yourself. doubtful id be surprised. bet your doing a goggle right now though arent ya. roy yep. that was me roy. i did notice though that for a time someone else took up my name and email address john@john.com . no idea who that was. but the one that you argued with was me. excellent. i had forgotten all about those good old days roy. a coon stole my tools your little charade............oh man. it was fun. but then these days are fun too. sort of miss some of the old morons though. later. a coon stole my tools nope not that irc. youll after search back further. i did search after back further roy. i was just waxing philosophical there for a bit. that was another of my favorite arguments. there were others. i wont confuse you. nah im not the least confused. the thing is that you and john are two different people. it should be obvious even to the casual reader. ok royboy whatever you say. but the truth is that that was me. i just read the whole hypocrisy thread again. that was great really was some of my best work. i appreciate the nice comments that you had for that aka btw. whether or not you want to believe it was me is immaterial to me i know and i appreciate it although an artist does like to take credit for his work. still trying to remember some of my other akas. remember the guy that was a cop down south that you guys all ganged up on no he wasnt me he was real but it was me that came to his aid. you remember the guy that max got into it with and you all jumped in to help out. was that rabb that appears in the great hypocrisy thread cant remember my aka for that one of i would go back and read it too but if you can remember his name i can look the thread up and find another old aka of mine. .
From : fmb
yes and yes its much easier to maintain a system with 10 repeaters than the number of repeaters you would like to have if all your talk groups each had a repeater. we went from lots of sharing of lots of repeaters to 10 repeaters and just under 50 talk groups. the priority feature works well also. we actually lock out a repeater for the fds exclusive use during emergencies. that helps out a lot. the 3rd feature of going with that new system was dispatch going from a hardwired 7 rack centracom series ii consule down to a pentium computer. maybe im not describing that too well but the 7 rack system made a horseshoe shaped dispatch center with separate controls for each of the frequencies. this was lots of lights switches and whoopie buzzers. the new system is software based with very little hardware in the dispatch center. the dispatcher just uses a mouse screen mic and speakers. fmb and there was a provision for priority in which for example fire and police comm would take precedence over low-priority comm such as park maintenance or dog catcher i helped install the first smr-type trunked systen in hannibal mo in 1982 had 5 repeaters and antenna on the kgrc tower the privacy was touted as a benefit but the main reason to go to a trunked system is that each city service police fire dog catcher streets etc. gets their own talkgroups but the city only needs 10 or so frequencies to service them all. fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote we use a motorola 800 mhz trunked radio system. it is quite interesting once you understand how it works. we have 10 repeaters with one being the controler. it was intended as one of your other responders stated to avoid outsiders to catch the entire conversation. well it doesnt work that way anymore. you can get a trunk tracker scanner and program all the frequencies and have a ball listening in. first though you need to understand what frequencies are in use for the agencies you want to listen to. some use 800 mhz some 900 mhz some are still in the stone age. lol i told my know it all son that you couldnt listen in on our conversations. he bought a small handheld scanner from rs and proved me wrong. lol fmb only one b in fmb been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy .
From : gary glaenzer
ahhhh...the centracom consoles......loved em back in 78-79 the leaa law enforcement assistance administration was handing out $$$ to local and county le folks in western il like there was no tomorrow from summer of 78 thru fall of 79 i installed new systems for city of jacksonville il morgan county il scott county il macoupin county il greene county il jersey county il calhoun county il montgomery county il plus all the antennas voting receivers comparators a 1900 mhz microwave between jerseyville and hardin il to allow the jersey/calhoun system to overcome the rough terrain near the rivers and the consoles and of course swapping out all the low-band mobiles replaced with 100-watt micors with system 90 controls became the by default expert on how to interconnect every damned s-90 accessory ever made in all the systems except jacksonville / morgan county morgan went to high-band repeaters with a 6-receiver voting system using mt-500 4-watt portables w. converta-coms jacksonville went to uhf repeater system with a 4-input voter and 1-watt mt-500s and converta-coms it was without a doubt the most exciting time of my 2-way career i learned more in those 16 months than in all the other electronics-related jobs i had before and have had since.............. yes and yes its much easier to maintain a system with 10 repeaters than the number of repeaters you would like to have if all your talk groups each had a repeater. we went from lots of sharing of lots of repeaters to 10 repeaters and just under 50 talk groups. the priority feature works well also. we actually lock out a repeater for the fds exclusive use during emergencies. that helps out a lot. the 3rd feature of going with that new system was dispatch going from a hardwired 7 rack centracom series ii consule down to a pentium computer. maybe im not describing that too well but the 7 rack system made a horseshoe shaped dispatch center with separate controls for each of the frequencies. this was lots of lights switches and whoopie buzzers. the new system is software based with very little hardware in the dispatch center. the dispatcher just uses a mouse screen mic and speakers. fmb and there was a provision for priority in which for example fire and police comm would take precedence over low-priority comm such as park maintenance or dog catcher i helped install the first smr-type trunked systen in hannibal mo in 1982 had 5 repeaters and antenna on the kgrc tower the privacy was touted as a benefit but the main reason to go to a trunked system is that each city service police fire dog catcher streets etc. gets their own talkgroups but the city only needs 10 or so frequencies to service them all. fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote we use a motorola 800 mhz trunked radio system. it is quite interesting once you understand how it works. we have 10 repeaters with one being the controler. it was intended as one of your other responders stated to avoid outsiders to catch the entire conversation. well it doesnt work that way anymore. you can get a trunk tracker scanner and program all the frequencies and have a ball listening in. first though you need to understand what frequencies are in use for the agencies you want to listen to. some use 800 mhz some 900 mhz some are still in the stone age. lol i told my know it all son that you couldnt listen in on our conversations. he bought a small handheld scanner from rs and proved me wrong. lol fmb only one b in fmb been looking around at police and fire scanners. anybody have any thoughts price will be used in the house only so a desk top model is pretty much what im looking at. looked at a radio shack but the #s on the screen were so small i needed a magnifying glass to read them. also had more bells and whistles than i need or want. roy .