OT Jeep project is finished!!!

From : roy

Q: finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. roy .

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From : mac davis

on wed 6 feb 2008 204405 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. roy congratulations on the completion of your 4 wheel drive vehicle... dont wanna get cyrco pissed ya know.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : denny

finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes was the weights stuck a little penetrating oil do it now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. very distant cousins my friend.... denny roy .

From : roy

finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes was the weights stuck a little penetrating oil do it yup weights and springs. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. very distant cousins my friend.... the distance from you is about 1200 miles. a close relation in size and appearance. vbg roy denny roy .

From : roy

finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes was the weights stuck a little penetrating oil do it yup weights and springs. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. very distant cousins my friend.... the distance from you is about 1200 miles. a close relation in size and appearance. vbg bite me.... now that we got that out of the way.... g when you hauling your fat ass and the jeep up here to play in the mud i got an old dodge thatd love to pull that wittle jeep out of a mudpuddle.... denny yup ill be on the road in the morning. g was rolling around under it and first off it dont sit high enough for you to roll around under it....... looks like i have a front pinion seal weeping a bit.im wondering if this thing has sat for so damn long.... im going to run it around some this weekend and see whats what. the saga seems to continue. pinion seals arent really very hard to put in even for you. the hardest part is if you dont have something to hold the yoke while removing/torquing the nut. myself i wouldnt worry about it as long as its not dripping. a little seepage just keeps the housing from rusting.. bg denny .

From : denny

on sat 09 feb 2008 103015 -0700 nathan w. collier wrote the tonsillectomy has turned into a massive throat infection which has resulted in heavy antibiotics and even heavier pain killers up to 10mg percocet now instead of 5. while i do enjoy escaping the unbelievable pain i hate being a complete and total zombie. i dont know how junkies can possibly like this feeling. they must be trying to escape pains ive never imagined. ive been strung out on this crap for about 9 days or so now and cant wait to be lucid again. it really sucks not being able to feel your little daughters kiss on your cheek. ....anybody else in here ever had their tonsils removed when they were 30 years old or older the pa i saw yesterday roughly 40 years old also said she had her tonsils removed last december and despite being in the tonsil business and dealing with it every day she never fully appreciated what its like until going through it herself. she says i have about another 3-4 days of mysery and can hopefully come off the dope then. i really hope thats true. she says my tongue will feel numb for at least another week or so and that i should have actual taste back in 2-3 more weeks. if i had it to do over again i still would of had them removed. they have always been a problem for me and in fact i had to redo much of army basic training due to tonsilitis when i was 17. just last month i thought i would have to intebate myself with a piece of plumbing pipe just to be able to breathe. nothing like waking up at 4am being strangled by your own tonsils. this happened 2-3 times a year every year but the doctors didnt want to remove my tonsils. they say it was to avoid what im going through now but i think it was to guarantee return business. - so anyway i guess ive rambled enough. thanks for the distraction guys it helps to pass the time. nate i hope and pray you get to feeling better soon. -- chris .

From : christopher d thompson

truck is stock with 110k miles. wed-fri it wouldnt idle until completely warmed up. it just stalls as rpms go to zero unless you keep your foot on the gas a little. drove fine when warm. sat it had same problem several times even after warmed up. its always run great other than this happening now. any ideas anyone efi doesnt have a choke that could fail does it any help would be greatly appreciated. .

From : dang ol boomhauerchristopher d thompson

on sat 09 feb 2008 165251 -0800 mac davis wrote on sat 9 feb 2008 114704 -0500 roy roy@fhome.net wrote ok boyz & girlz can you say drip pan how about find and fix the damn leak. it isnt a hd.g roy and then like the wabbit said the salt air will rust it out right mac please remove splinters before emailing if he puts enough mud under it he wont have to worry about the oil drip or the rust ; -- chris .

From : denny

on sun 10 feb 2008 033640 -0500 denny wrote what ya get http//www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspxid=36 and what really sucks is that its 18 degrees out and windy as all hell. i may fondle it but i aint gonna shoot it today... denny you make me sick! lol thank you... g all i wanted was a leather holster at the last show and you know there wasnt even one leather dealer there the guys with the nylon holsters had the concealment purses but thats not my speed. hummmm.... some nice leather and a little nylon here and there and you might get roys attention.... gbmfg denny -- chris .

From : mac davis

on fri 8 feb 2008 074615 -0500 roy roy@fhome.net wrote i know. im not sure whether it is residual oil running down of what it looks like engine oil i dont think i spilled any. im gonna spray around with some electrical cleaner and try to see whats what. there were soo many leaks on it there may be more to go. wish i had some place to hit it with a light power wash. roy or.. you could realize that its a jeep and just drive it... it aint supposed to be ready for a car show bro its a way to get to the beach remember mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : roy

on fri 8 feb 2008 074615 -0500 roy roy@fhome.net wrote i know. im not sure whether it is residual oil running down of what it looks like engine oil i dont think i spilled any. im gonna spray around with some electrical cleaner and try to see whats what. there were soo many leaks on it there may be more to go. wish i had some place to hit it with a light power wash. roy or.. you could realize that its a jeep and just drive it... it aint supposed to be ready for a car show bro its a way to get to the beach remember i hear ya bro. but the drivway is stenciled and painted and i dont want sue on my ear about oil spots. i just spent a couple of hours in the garage with some starting fluid getting all i could out of skid plate and wherever else i could find that would trap it. ill run it around this weekend and see if any more appears or if i have gotten it all. it would have been easier to do up north on a lift but on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. roy mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : roy

on fri 8 feb 2008 154903 -0500 roy roy@fhome.net wrote i hear ya bro. but the drivway is stenciled and painted and i dont want sue on my ear about oil spots. i just spent a couple of hours in the garage with some starting fluid getting all i could out of skid plate and wherever else i could find that would trap it. ill run it around this weekend and see if any more appears or if i have gotten it all. it would have been easier to do up north on a lift but on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. roy ok boyz & girlz can you say drip pan how about find and fix the damn leak. it isnt a hd.g roy mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : denny

are right it thats possible and her only real issue with hunting them down and kicking them out is breaking up families so i would say that compassion is a primary reason the dems dont do it. i doubt that it is the only one but probably #1 on the list. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 342294 47ace653$0$22644$4c368faf@roadrunner.com on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. anybody else loose their supper when they got this mental picture denny .

From : denny

finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes was the weights stuck a little penetrating oil do it yup weights and springs. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. very distant cousins my friend.... the distance from you is about 1200 miles. a close relation in size and appearance. vbg bite me.... now that we got that out of the way.... g when you hauling your fat ass and the jeep up here to play in the mud i got an old dodge thatd love to pull that wittle jeep out of a mudpuddle.... denny roy denny roy .

From : roy

finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes was the weights stuck a little penetrating oil do it yup weights and springs. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. very distant cousins my friend.... the distance from you is about 1200 miles. a close relation in size and appearance. vbg bite me.... now that we got that out of the way.... g when you hauling your fat ass and the jeep up here to play in the mud i got an old dodge thatd love to pull that wittle jeep out of a mudpuddle.... denny yup ill be on the road in the morning. g was rolling around under it and looks like i have a front pinion seal weeping a bit.im wondering if this thing has sat for so damn long.... im going to run it around some this weekend and see whats what. the saga seems to continue. roy .

From : denny

finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes was the weights stuck a little penetrating oil do it yup weights and springs. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. very distant cousins my friend.... the distance from you is about 1200 miles. a close relation in size and appearance. vbg bite me.... now that we got that out of the way.... g when you hauling your fat ass and the jeep up here to play in the mud i got an old dodge thatd love to pull that wittle jeep out of a mudpuddle.... denny yup ill be on the road in the morning. g was rolling around under it and first off it dont sit high enough for you to roll around under it....... looks like i have a front pinion seal weeping a bit.im wondering if this thing has sat for so damn long.... im going to run it around some this weekend and see whats what. the saga seems to continue. pinion seals arent really very hard to put in even for you. the hardest part is if you dont have something to hold the yoke while removing/torquing the nut. myself i wouldnt worry about it as long as its not dripping. a little seepage just keeps the housing from rusting.. bg denny .

From : roy

finally done. man i hate following into a project spend more time undoing other folks alleged good work. denny we were in the right direction no advance it wasnt the weber. $40 took care of the exhaust no more fumes was the weights stuck a little penetrating oil do it yup weights and springs. now its off to the beach. oh rabbit i meant to tell ya sunday some of your relatives went by about 75-100 yards of the beach mom and two baby whales playing around. caused a traffic jam of lookers. very distant cousins my friend.... the distance from you is about 1200 miles. a close relation in size and appearance. vbg bite me.... now that we got that out of the way.... g when you hauling your fat ass and the jeep up here to play in the mud i got an old dodge thatd love to pull that wittle jeep out of a mudpuddle.... denny yup ill be on the road in the morning. g was rolling around under it and first off it dont sit high enough for you to roll around under it....... actually with the tires it is. looks like i have a front pinion seal weeping a bit.im wondering if this thing has sat for so damn long.... im going to run it around some this weekend and see whats what. the saga seems to continue. pinion seals arent really very hard to put in even for you. the hardest part is if you dont have something to hold the yoke while removing/torquing the nut. myself i wouldnt worry about it as long as its not dripping. a little seepage just keeps the housing from rusting.. bg i know. im not sure whether it is residual oil running down of what it looks like engine oil i dont think i spilled any. im gonna spray around with some electrical cleaner and try to see whats what. there were soo many leaks on it there may be more to go. wish i had some place to hit it with a light power wash. roy denny .

From : denny

on sun 10 feb 2008 033640 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote what ya get http//www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspxid=36 and what really sucks is that its 18 degrees out and windy as all hell. i may fondle it but i aint gonna shoot it today... denny i damn sure hope youre talking about firearms here buggs.. why would you even think im talking about anything else.... denny .

From : christopher d thompson

on sun 10 feb 2008 133253 -0500 denny wrote denny you make me sick! lol thank you... g all i wanted was a leather holster at the last show and you know there wasnt even one leather dealer there the guys with the nylon holsters had the concealment purses but thats not my speed. hummmm.... some nice leather and a little nylon here and there and you might get roys attention.... gbmfg denny damn! did you really have to go there! *grin* ill leave that sort of play between you roy and the pink bunny suit. -- chris .

From : denny

on sun 10 feb 2008 133253 -0500 denny wrote denny you make me sick! lol thank you... g all i wanted was a leather holster at the last show and you know there wasnt even one leather dealer there the guys with the nylon holsters had the concealment purses but thats not my speed. hummmm.... some nice leather and a little nylon here and there and you might get roys attention.... gbmfg denny damn! did you really have to go there! *grin* ill leave that sort of play between you roy and the pink bunny suit. as the ole big-bellyd one says...theres always room for fresh meat. bfg i never quite understood that saying till i saw the sucker down about 30 lbs of seafood one evening.. denny .

From : mac davis

on sun 10 feb 2008 033640 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote what ya get http//www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspxid=36 and what really sucks is that its 18 degrees out and windy as all hell. i may fondle it but i aint gonna shoot it today... denny i damn sure hope youre talking about firearms here buggs.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : roy

my parents are wanting to build themselves a log home and have asked me to see what i could find out with regards to maintenance/upkeep and the such compared to a traditional built home. so...anyone here know anything about these -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels when i was pounding nails for a living we built a couple of them. i wasnt really impressed. the thermal effienctcy wasnt all that great as i remember. trimming them was a pain in the ass and because most of them come as a kit spare parts like that log you found down in the mud on the bottom of the pile and is all split and cracked. if it was me id build conventional frame with log siding if you want the look. .

From : mac davis

on fri 8 feb 2008 183806 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. anybody else loose their supper when they got this mental picture denny well i was trying to ignore the visual until you brought that up.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on fri 8 feb 2008 154903 -0500 roy roy@fhome.net wrote i hear ya bro. but the drivway is stenciled and painted and i dont want sue on my ear about oil spots. i just spent a couple of hours in the garage with some starting fluid getting all i could out of skid plate and wherever else i could find that would trap it. ill run it around this weekend and see if any more appears or if i have gotten it all. it would have been easier to do up north on a lift but on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. roy ok boyz & girlz can you say drip pan mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : roy

on fri 8 feb 2008 183806 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. anybody else loose their supper when they got this mental picture denny well i was trying to ignore the visual until you brought that up.. you two keep at it and ill send ya pictures! vbg roy mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on sat 9 feb 2008 114756 -0500 roy roy@fhome.net wrote anybody else loose their supper when they got this mental picture denny well i was trying to ignore the visual until you brought that up.. you two keep at it and ill send ya pictures! vbg roy that would have to violate a few laws.. senior porn mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on sat 9 feb 2008 114704 -0500 roy roy@fhome.net wrote ok boyz & girlz can you say drip pan how about find and fix the damn leak. it isnt a hd.g roy and then like the wabbit said the salt air will rust it out right mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : denny

ma wrote http//www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/ mike anything different about this than the my last ford.. my last gm.. or my last xxxx web sites .

From : denny

on fri 8 feb 2008 183806 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. anybody else loose their supper when they got this mental picture denny well i was trying to ignore the visual until you brought that up.. you two keep at it and ill send ya pictures! vbg go for it!! i need a target. went to a gunshow down in columbus today and got another ar. i guess that dpms just needed a new home. denny .

From : roy

on fri 8 feb 2008 183806 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on my back in shorts isnt too hard to take either. anybody else loose their supper when they got this mental picture denny well i was trying to ignore the visual until you brought that up.. you two keep at it and ill send ya pictures! vbg go for it!! i need a target. went to a gunshow down in columbus today and got another ar. i guess that dpms just needed a new home. denny what ya get roy .

From : roy

on sun 10 feb 2008 033640 -0500 denny wrote what ya get http//www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspxid=36 and what really sucks is that its 18 degrees out and windy as all hell. i may fondle it but i aint gonna shoot it today... denny you make me sick! lol thank you... g all i wanted was a leather holster at the last show and you know there wasnt even one leather dealer there the guys with the nylon holsters had the concealment purses but thats not my speed. hummmm.... some nice leather and a little nylon here and there and you might get roys attention.... gbmfg denny wow!! whats wrong with nylon and leather i figure you are getting all worked up at the mention of a purse. speaking of a purse it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. gotta have sue carry. -- chris .

From : roy

on sun 10 feb 2008 133253 -0500 denny wrote denny you make me sick! lol thank you... g all i wanted was a leather holster at the last show and you know there wasnt even one leather dealer there the guys with the nylon holsters had the concealment purses but thats not my speed. hummmm.... some nice leather and a little nylon here and there and you might get roys attention.... gbmfg denny damn! did you really have to go there! *grin* ill leave that sort of play between you roy and the pink bunny suit. as the ole big-bellyd one says...theres always room for fresh meat. bfg i never quite understood that saying till i saw the sucker down about 30 lbs of seafood one evening.. this from the guy that about was drowned while sunning his wide ride at the beach green peace had a winch on his fat ass when i arrived they thought he was a beached whale and were trying to drag his ass back into the ocean. he was soaked the gp people kept yelling keep the skin wet while tossing buckets of water on him.gbfg really that was a good night. you kept up pretty well as i remember. thing was you werent use to anything but friggin sliders good seafood must have rasied hell with that stomachg roy denny .

From : roy

on sun 10 feb 2008 033640 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote what ya get http//www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspxid=36 and what really sucks is that its 18 degrees out and windy as all hell. i may fondle it but i aint gonna shoot it today... denny i damn sure hope youre talking about firearms here buggs.. why would you even think im talking about anything else.... denny now that is tooooo easy. .

From : mac davis

on sun 10 feb 2008 133355 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on sun 10 feb 2008 033640 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote what ya get http//www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspxid=36 and what really sucks is that its 18 degrees out and windy as all hell. i may fondle it but i aint gonna shoot it today... denny i damn sure hope youre talking about firearms here buggs.. why would you even think im talking about anything else.... denny umm... because you said it mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. hello roy i was unaware that you carried. see http//concealedcarryforum.com for more. -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : denny

on sun 10 feb 2008 133253 -0500 denny wrote denny you make me sick! lol thank you... g all i wanted was a leather holster at the last show and you know there wasnt even one leather dealer there the guys with the nylon holsters had the concealment purses but thats not my speed. hummmm.... some nice leather and a little nylon here and there and you might get roys attention.... gbmfg denny damn! did you really have to go there! *grin* ill leave that sort of play between you roy and the pink bunny suit. as the ole big-bellyd one says...theres always room for fresh meat. bfg i never quite understood that saying till i saw the sucker down about 30 lbs of seafood one evening.. this from the guy that about was drowned while sunning his wide ride at the beach green peace had a winch on his fat ass when i arrived they thought he was a beached whale and were trying to drag his ass back into the ocean. he was soaked the gp people kept yelling keep the skin wet while tossing buckets of water on him.gbfg really that was a good night. you kept up pretty well as i remember. thing was you werent use to anything but friggin sliders good seafood must have rasied hell with that stomachg i gotta admit it did. i had a bellyache the next day. but them scallops sure were good!! bg denny .

From : denny

on sun 10 feb 2008 033640 -0500 denny wrote what ya get http//www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspxid=36 and what really sucks is that its 18 degrees out and windy as all hell. i may fondle it but i aint gonna shoot it today... denny you make me sick! lol thank you... g all i wanted was a leather holster at the last show and you know there wasnt even one leather dealer there the guys with the nylon holsters had the concealment purses but thats not my speed. hummmm.... some nice leather and a little nylon here and there and you might get roys attention.... gbmfg denny wow!! whats wrong with nylon and leather i figure you are getting all worked up at the mention of a purse. speaking of a purse it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. gotta have sue carry. i guess you could get one of those gay looking fanny packs... youd look really cute with one.. denny .

From : mac davis

on mon 11 feb 2008 051102 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote wow!! whats wrong with nylon and leather i figure you are getting all worked up at the mention of a purse. speaking of a purse it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. gotta have sue carry. i guess you could get one of those gay looking fanny packs... youd look really cute with one.. denny ..22 magnum beer can holder 50 cal. beach umbrella stand claymore boom box it would be literally! mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

i guess you could get one of those gay looking fanny packs... youd look really cute with one.. fanny packs have valid applications. when im wearing my fanny pack you may snicker behind my back about how gay it looks all the while its a quick assess holster for my .40 caliber glock. being underestimated in such a manner is a good thing. - -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : roy

i guess you could get one of those gay looking fanny packs... youd look really cute with one.. fanny packs have valid applications. when im wearing my fanny pack you may snicker behind my back about how gay it looks all the while its a quick assess holster for my .40 caliber glock. being underestimated in such a manner is a good thing. - glad you saw the humor in it.. g when i picture a fanny pack its bouncing on the ass of a vacationing yuppy wearing white shorts and a plaid shirt with those flip-up sunglasses clipped to their bi-focals. you finding yourself looking at guys with fanny packsg some guys can get away with wearing them and some cant. you sure as hell could. with the width of that wide ride the fanny pack would sorta blend in. myself you cant get much better than an iwb holster and a loose t-shirt. thats easy to do in your case you can drop a roll of belly over it. myself spending most of my time in shorts and a t shirt given how thin i am it is a problem carrying the sig 239 without it printing. but sue usually carries some sort of bag that i can clip a iwb into it and she carries so we have it with us. roy denny -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : tom lawrence

it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. hello roy i was unaware that you carried. see http//concealedcarryforum.com for more. oh to live in a free state. sniffle one day... .

From : nathan w collier

oh to live in a free state. sniffle it all starts here sir. - -- http//www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-642.pdf -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : roy

it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. hello roy i was unaware that you carried. see http//concealedcarryforum.com for more. both myself and my wife have carried for years. permits for ccw in ma and fl. roy .

From : roy

it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. hello roy i was unaware that you carried. see http//concealedcarryforum.com for more. oh to live in a free state. sniffle one day... cant you apply for a permit ma is a bitch but ya have to jump through the hoops. fl isnt as bad. .

From : denny

i guess you could get one of those gay looking fanny packs... youd look really cute with one.. fanny packs have valid applications. when im wearing my fanny pack you may snicker behind my back about how gay it looks all the while its a quick assess holster for my .40 caliber glock. being underestimated in such a manner is a good thing. - glad you saw the humor in it.. g when i picture a fanny pack its bouncing on the ass of a vacationing yuppy wearing white shorts and a plaid shirt with those flip-up sunglasses clipped to their bi-focals. some guys can get away with wearing them and some cant. myself you cant get much better than an iwb holster and a loose t-shirt. denny -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : mac davis

on mon 11 feb 2008 132347 -0700 nathan w. collier no@way.com wrote it is damn near impossible to carry concealed here. hello roy i was unaware that you carried. see http//concealedcarryforum.com for more. nate.. its one of those things us ol farts do when were too old to fight and too fat to run.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : tom lawrence

it all starts here sir. - -- http//www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-642.pdf and it ends there too... you have to convince both the chief of police and a superior court judge that you have a justifiable need to carry a handgun. self-defense doesnt cut it. you either have to be ex-leo work for an armored car service and then can only carry while on duty or have friends in very high places to get approved. and then once youre denied and 99.9999% of the time you will be you have to answer yes to question 19 on this form http//www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf which you have to fill out every time you apply for handgun purchase permits. that will certainly raise a red flag and delay your application further than the normal beaurocracy. weve recently upgraded our laws such that anyone caught in possession of a handgun outside of their home or business without said carry permit the one thats impossible to obtain and who doesnt fall under a narrow list of exemptions such as travelling directly to a target range on the 3rd sunday in july between the hours of 345 and 415 during a hail storm with a baby zebra in the back seat is guilty of a 2nd degree crime what most other states call felonies and will be sentenced to 5-10 years in state prison... mandatory. first o

From : tom lawrence

as i said... one day ill live in a free state. . 222 342493 47b0fb8e$0$47182$892e0abb@auth.reader.octa.com cant you apply for a permit ma is a bitch but ya have to jump through the hoops. fl isnt as bad. see my reponse to nate. i recall one of our more famous cases here... the owner of a jewelry store who frequently carried either large sums of money to the bank or valuable merchandise to his store applied for a carry permit. as his justifiable reason he pointed out how he had been mugged previously and the nature of his business demanded that he be able to protect/defend himself. when asked about private security he showed that the cost of a full-time private security guard would cost him more than he made from his business annually. the judges response to his request denied. perhaps you should move your business elsewhere. .

From : nathan w collier

please enlighten me on exactly wherein the above hierarchy lies the word or words log homes again right after ot in the subject. other than the detailed explanation above the rules should be obvious. discussion on dodge trucks - and try to keep it clean. duh!!! tell ya what idiot you will be real busy running around here. we have a jeep thread that is now a concealed carry thread. im sure you have more guidence that can be applied there. for one who wants to moderate id suggest that you learn not to top post. there are some that do not have to comply with common rules so they get to do whatever the hell they want whenever the hell they want and wherever the hell they want. dont try to make sense of it and youll be fine. you too can join in and help assimilate chaos and confusion brought on by those that assume they are better than the rest. care to show us the rules for this group . 222 342499 dcwdnz91vljxuczanz2dnuvzg2dnz2d@bresnan.com and it ends there too... you have to convince both the chief of police and a superior court judge that you have a justifiable need to carry a handgun. self-defense doesnt cut it. dang...you ever consider living in pa and commuting pa has some excellent carry laws. in fact ive just applied for my pa permit just for the reciprocity with wv. i plan to take my rhino to the hatfield mccoy trail system in wv but wv doesnt honor mt permits. they do honor pa permits however and it only cost $26 to get the pa permit. -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com http//hipowertalk.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : denny

i guess you could get one of those gay looking fanny packs... youd look really cute with one.. fanny packs have valid applications. when im wearing my fanny pack you may snicker behind my back about how gay it looks all the while its a quick assess holster for my .40 caliber glock. being underestimated in such a manner is a good thing. - glad you saw the humor in it.. g when i picture a fanny pack its bouncing on the ass of a vacationing yuppy wearing white shorts and a plaid shirt with those flip-up sunglasses clipped to their bi-focals. you finding yourself looking at guys with fanny packsg some guys can get away with wearing them and some cant. you sure as hell could. with the width of that wide ride the fanny pack would sorta blend in. myself you cant get much better than an iwb holster and a loose t-shirt. thats easy to do in your case you can drop a roll of belly over it. well the suckers concealed aint it vbg now to the point..... first off you say my ass is too wide now you poke fun at my belly. you cant have both...which one is it denny .

From : roy

i guess you could get one of those gay looking fanny packs... youd look really cute with one.. fanny packs have valid applications. when im wearing my fanny pack you may snicker behind my back about how gay it looks all the while its a quick assess holster for my .40 caliber glock. being underestimated in such a manner is a good thing. - glad you saw the humor in it.. g when i picture a fanny pack its bouncing on the ass of a vacationing yuppy wearing white shorts and a plaid shirt with those flip-up sunglasses clipped to their bi-focals. you finding yourself looking at guys with fanny packsg some guys can get away with wearing them and some cant. you sure as hell could. with the width of that wide ride the fanny pack would sorta blend in. myself you cant get much better than an iwb holster and a loose t-shirt. thats easy to do in your case you can drop a roll of belly over it. well the suckers concealed aint it vbg it sure is!!! g now to the point..... okay but our new moderator might get pissed off. first off you say my ass is too wide now you poke fun at my belly. all very true and based on personal observation. i watched you feeding them.vbg you cant have both...which one is it why not you have both!! anyway you know the rule.bfg roy denny .

From : tom lawrence

dang...you ever consider living in pa and commuting only about once a week. i own property in pa but its just a little too far for a reasonable commute 2.5-3.0 hr ride depending on traffic. pa has some excellent carry laws. that they do. however and it only cost $26 to get the pa permit. yep... good ol centre county. will issue a non-resident pa permit to the holder of any other state permit. .

From : nathan w collier

glad you saw the humor in it.. g when i picture a fanny pack its bouncing on the ass of a vacationing yuppy wearing white shorts and a plaid shirt with those flip-up sunglasses clipped to their bi-focals. thats the exact image i hope to portray when wearing mine. the glock inside is the ace up my sleeve. have you tried the safepacker http//concealedcarryforum.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=196 myself you cant get much better than an iwb holster and a loose t-shirt. didnt know you carried either. join us on the forum. -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : nathan w collier

yep... good ol centre county. will issue a non-resident pa permit to the holder of any other state permit. if i ever were to move back east it would have to be western pa. i love the area the scenery and the gun laws. -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : nathan w collier

nate.. its one of those things us ol farts do when were too old to fight and too fat to run.. im still pretty fit but with so many blood based diseases out there im not going to mix it up with anybody you carry too huh come on into the forum. youll find one of the best group of guys anywhere. - -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : mac davis

on tue 12 feb 2008 155251 -0700 nathan w. collier no@way.com wrote nate.. its one of those things us ol farts do when were too old to fight and too fat to run.. im still pretty fit but with so many blood based diseases out there im not going to mix it up with anybody you carry too huh come on into the forum. nope.. not since the 60s... i figure ive killed enough folks for 1 lifetime... i kept lots of guns at home in the states but not cuz i needed them i just liked em.. had to give them all to the kids when we moved to baja illegal to own or import them here.. oh.. i did sell the 9mm... the kids can have a good time with the rifles but dont need a handgun.. now if my kid in iraq still had to carry that pos 45 i did i would have found a way to get the 9mm to him but thats what they use now.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

the kids can have a good time with the rifles but dont need a handgun.. every adult needs a handgun sir. -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : stephen hardingmac davis

on tue 12 feb 2008 220413 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote its just simple arrogant stupidity and nothing more. yup thats what you have demonstrated. sic-em roy..... gbmfg denny i was thinking the same thing.. must be kinda slow on the right coast huh mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

on tue 12 feb 2008 212810 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote tbone wrote you are shooting yourself in the foot miles. how exactly does money go farther there if people have money then they tend to spend it and consumption goes up. supply and demand dictates that if demand goes up supply goes down and prices go up. the laws of economics do not support you here. tbone why dont you travel to mexico so you fully understand and appreciate the mexican culture and economy. most mexicans do have money. but there is a lack of things to buy. my relatives come up here every 3 months to shop. they go to the local mall where they can buy top notch clothes etc. they leave with armfulls of bags and head back to mexico. youre attempting to argue about a country culture and economy you know absolutely nothing about. thats changing too miles.. you gotta come visit.. we usually go to yuma for the things that we just cant get here but most of our shopping is in san felipe or mexicali.. mexicali has home depot costco wal-mart and a lot of other stores and though not all the products are the same they have good selection and not bad value.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on wed 13 feb 2008 124848 -0500 tbone noway@nothere.com wrote on tue 12 feb 2008 224112 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote wtf are you trying to argue i worked several small jobs in younger years at $2.95/hr including construction. whats your point i never demanded that my first jobs should afford me my own place cars and food. only liberals do that. miles.. i know that you enjoy this but arguing with t-bone is like winning the special olympics... you still look retarded.. did i actually do something to you mac or is being an asshole a new thing for ya not one specific thing t.. just sort of fed up with you thinking you everything and finding a way to argue about anything.. i see these threads that have like 20 posts of alternating you and miles and wonder what you 2 get out of the bickering.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

bob az wrote are they sure it was the battery that started it all possibly some short in the wiring that caused the battery to cook and fail there is not very many battery manufacturers in the usa. 3-4 manufacturers cover probably 90% of the batteries out there. saying it is an autozone battery does not say much because it id a rebadged exide or gould or who knows. the battery simply is not there. or any residue. many wire bundles are simply bare roasted copper. the throttle body is 90% gone. radiator and ac condenser 50% gone. but the battery area simply stands out in that there is almost nothing left except for a heavily damaged battery tray. the fire even burned through the firewall behind the dash instruments which are all gone. lots of smoke damage inside the cab. the fender liner not sure what material it is is melted over the rf tire. half the hood is gone half the windshield is gone and the other half burned or roasted beyond use. alternator is gone. exhaust manifold is there. az compressor gone. but presumably no fuel/gas fire because we think there would have been a tremendous explosion when all there was was a boom. the gas tank was all but full. no damage to the glove compartment. all doors open and close easily. bob az sounds like a lack of evidence. i think some ford trucks have spontaneously combusted in the middle of the night and burned down the house. there was a recall on the cruise control or whatnot causing that. .

From : mac davis

on wed 13 feb 2008 205705 -0700 nathan w. collier no@way.com wrote not an option in mexico nate.. owning a gun is a federal offense here... after living around the gang bangers in california its sort of nice and quiet here.. *g* i wasnt aware you were in mexico. how long have you been there we started the house in 05 and moved here in oct. 06... i quickly developed a severe case of rectal glaucoma... i just cant see my ass ever living in the states again.. well if we can help oscar from this end let me know.. wheres he from were in baja california on the sea of cortez/gulf of california .....btw he tells me you can do just about anything in mexico that you can afford to do. if you cant carry there you just havent greased the right palm yet. - palm greasing is very effective here for some things at first you think of it as a bribe but later as more of a tip but its like eating a bowl of hot peppers... what ya do today might get your ass burned tomorrow.. you can pay a traffic ticket right on the scene sometimes others you get accused of a bribe.. you just never know.. weve found that what comes natural to us treating everyone with respect goes a very long way.. ive seen ugly americans try a big bribe and get cuffed in the back of the truck and ive seen normal folks that treat the police with respect and just get a warning for the same offence.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

owning a gun is a federal offense here thats not at all consistant with what im told. in fact oscar says that i can purchase a license and bring mine with me should i come down to mexico city for a visit. is there a mexican law website somehwere well if we can help oscar from this end let me know.. wheres he from were in baja california on the sea of cortez/gulf of california he is in mexico city. his ramcharger however shown in that picture is in tijuana. they let him drive it into mexico but then wouldnt let him cross the mexican state lines to get to mexico city so he had to back track to tiajuana and leave his truck and catch a bus to mexico city. if youre close to tijuana he sure could use a safer place to park his truck until i can get his visa. -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : nathan w collier

owning a gun is a federal offense here ......btw i didnt think an american citizen could own property in mexico. -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : miles

mac davis wrote ive seen ugly americans try a big bribe and get cuffed in the back of the truck and ive seen normal folks that treat the police with respect and just get a warning for the same offence.. in puerto penasco a friend got a speeding ticket while stopped at a light. a local had rear ended his car and was not cited. accidents are often the fault of whomever has the most money. .

From : miles

nathan w. collier wrote thats not at all consistant with what im told. in fact oscar says that i can purchase a license and bring mine with me should i come down to mexico city for a visit. is there a mexican law website somehwere mexican nationals can own small arms. for americans a permit can be obtained in advanced from the mexican embassy in dc. only small arms are allowed. a 9mm for instance is considered military grade and not allowed. without such a permit youre looking at a few years in prison for even having a single bullet in your possession. .

From : mac davis

on thu 14 feb 2008 102634 -0700 nathan w. collier no@way.com wrote owning a gun is a federal offense here thats not at all consistant with what im told. in fact oscar says that i can purchase a license and bring mine with me should i come down to mexico city for a visit. is there a mexican law website somehwere i dont know what to tell you nate.. we cross the border a lot and there are huge guns and ammo illegal in mexico signs all over.. ive heard that you can get some kind of special permit to bring in a sporting rifle specifically for hunting during a specific time but dont know anyone thats done it.. he is in mexico city. his ramcharger however shown in that picture is in tijuana. they let him drive it into mexico but then wouldnt let him cross the mexican state lines to get to mexico city so he had to back track to tiajuana and leave his truck and catch a bus to mexico city. if youre close to tijuana he sure could use a safer place to park his truck until i can get his visa. i hear that.. i guess the folks on the mainland are pretty tight assed.. i dont think anyone would care if we had a 4th truck parked at our place.. were about 120 miles east of tj near san felipe.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on thu 14 feb 2008 102737 -0700 nathan w. collier no@way.com wrote owning a gun is a federal offense here .....btw i didnt think an american citizen could own property in mexico. you cant... it has to be owned by a trust at the bank and leased to you... our lease needs to be renewed in 45 years.. like ill live that long..lol dont bring guns or ammunition to baja mexico is very serious about gun control and the rules are pretty simple... they arent allowed. you are not even allowed to possess ammunition in mexico. and if they find a bullet in your possession it gives them a legal reason to detain you. if you bring a gun to mexico and try to use the excuse that it was for your personal protection or for hunting it wont matter you will not get a sympathetic ear. but it might buy you some time in a mexican slammer. theyve heard all of the excuses... well before you crossed the border. hunting is allowed in some locations in mexico but special permits must be obtained and they need to be procured in advance of entering the country. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on tue 12 feb 2008 065812 -0500 denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote thats easy to do in your case you can drop a roll of belly over it. well the suckers concealed aint it vbg wow.. puts a whole new wrinkle into the gun control argument.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

both myself and my wife have carried for years. permits for ccw in ma and fl awesome ill look forward to seeing you on the forum. ; -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : tbone

nothing personal nate but ive never needed one as a civilian.. for your own sake i hope you never realize first hand how wrong i feel you are. the students at va tech that were lined up in a row and shot one after another were unarmed and unable to do anything but stand there and die. was it that they were unable or simply chose not to. while im sure they were scared they had nothing to lose by attacking the guy especially after he shot the first one. many people will do nothing even if they have the gun. watch this video sir. http//www.youtube.com/watchv=soztwqksm shows a woman working at walmart when her estranged husband walks in and starts stabbing her. people just stood around watching the woman being stabbed to death unable to offer any assistance at all.... once again unable or simply unwilling. since he didnt have a gun himself how many people could he possibly fight off especially if jumped on from behind. up until a little old man that carried concealed came up and shot her attacker dead so that she the innocent one could live. while that sounds good what if as the little old man was about to shoot the scumbag someone else with a gun came around the corner saw the old man getting ready to shoot the attacker and thought the old man was the attacker and shot the old man. i got dozens of similar examples of a concealed carry holder making the difference. i am sure that you do but you are under the assumption that everyone that would be carrying would both know what to do and act rationally. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : mac davis

on mon 18 feb 2008 154559 -0500 tbone noway@nothere.com wrote watch this video sir. http//www.youtube.com/watchv=soztwqksm shows a woman working at walmart when her estranged husband walks in and starts stabbing her. people just stood around watching the woman being stabbed to death unable to offer any assistance at all.... once again unable or simply unwilling. since he didnt have a gun himself how many people could he possibly fight off especially if jumped on from behind. i actually find myself agreeing with t! spent some time last night thinking about that one and how many people are in a wal-mart and how many cool weapons are at hand there from shopping carts to butcher knives.. people stood around because thats the kind of people they were.. that parts a no-brainer.. there are many heroes out there that used fists flying tackles mace or plain masses of people to stop attacks like that one or worse... the type of person who carries may or may not give a shit about anyone but themselves either.. for all you know one or more of the folks watching the lady get attacked were carrying.. guns dont make folks smarter faster more honest or morale any more than guns can be blamed for killing people all by themselves.. personally i like guns a lot but the last 3 people on earth i want to try and have a conversation with are the ones that are newly reborn just quit smoking or think that everyone should have guns.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : mac davis

on thu 14 feb 2008 121327 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote nathan w. collier wrote thats not at all consistant with what im told. in fact oscar says that i can purchase a license and bring mine with me should i come down to mexico city for a visit. is there a mexican law website somehwere mexican nationals can own small arms. for americans a permit can be obtained in advanced from the mexican embassy in dc. only small arms are allowed. a 9mm for instance is considered military grade and not allowed. without such a permit youre looking at a few years in prison for even having a single bullet in your possession. from wikipedia the free encyclopedia the united mexican states or mexico spanish estados unidos mexicanos or mxico has some of the strictest gun laws in the world. it is in many ways similar to the united kingdom except with much more severe prison terms for even the smallest gun law violations. on the other hand possession of non-military-caliber small arms by citizens is largely a non-issue. gun politics are thus not the major issue in mexico that they are in the neighboring united states since few mexican citizens have any gun law difficulties. the primary source of guns used in criminal activities mexico is illegal smuggling. dont know about this part miles... i have a feeling that the law is on the books but that permit is pretty hard to get... i know of no one that has one.. gun licensing and legislation for us citizens and citizens from other countries the us department of state warns us citizens against taking any firearm or ammunition into mexico without prior written authorization from the mexican authorities. entering mexico with a firearm or even a single round of ammunition carries a penalty of up to five years in prison even if the firearm or ammunition is taken into the country unintentionally. furthermore even a single round of 9 mm ammunition being a military caliber cartridge carries even heavier jail-time penalties. the only way legally to import firearms and/or ammunition into mexico is to secure a permit in advance from the mexican embassy in washington d.c. or from a mexican consulate. mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : nathan w collier

you cant... it has to be owned by a trust at the bank and leased to you... our lease needs to be renewed in 45 years.. like ill live that long..lol neat. how about some pics of your place what does it cost to lease a decentl place down there for 45 years -- nathan in montana http//bighorntactical.com http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//hipowertalk.com http//glockcarry.com http//p99sw99.com http//ppstalk.com http//p7talk.com .

From : mac davis

on fri 15 feb 2008 142729 -0700 nathan w. collier no@way.com wrote you cant... it has to be owned by a trust at the bank and leased to you... our lease needs to be renewed in 45 years.. like ill live that long..lol neat. how about some pics of your place where ya want them sent.. ;- what does it cost to lease a decentl place down there for 45 years well prices are going up fast but our lots were $30k each a couple of years ago... thats for 1/3 acre lots in the multi-use area.. meaning you can have an rv there year-round.. we want to built on the 2ns lot but just might keep it for investment.. its 2 blocks away from our house.. getting the house built was 150k with upgrades... heres a little about how it works the restricted zone the mexican constitution regulates the ownership of the land and establishes that ...in a zone of 100 kilometers along the border or 50 kilometers along the coast a foreigner cannot acquire the direct ownership of the land. these areas are known as the restricted or prohibited zones. nevertheless the latest mexican foreign investment law which became law on december 28 1993 makes the allowances mentioned above. fideicomiso or bank trust any foreigner or mexican national can constitute a fideicomiso the equivalent to an american beneficial trust through a mexican bank in order to purchase real estate anywhere in mexico including the restricted zone. to do so the buyer requests a mexican bank of his/her choice to act as a trustee on his/her behalf. mac please remove splinters before emailing .