OT Fired Imus!!

From : roy

Q: unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .

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From : steve b

roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! good. he sucked anyway. yeah. it must have been pretty hard for you to keep up with the current events discussions. not to mention global events in places you couldnt find with an atlas. steve .

From : bill dunkenfield

miles wrote mike simmons wrote so i guess when the reverend jackson called nyc hymietown that was ok sharpton has made similar references to jews greeks called them homos as well as used the racial terms he so blasts if a white person says them. what makes you think im defending sharpton jam .

From : geekboy

if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .

From : tom lawrence

good. he sucked anyway. are you really that stupid you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you its not about whether you liked what he did or what he said - its about the fundamental concept of free speech. oh i know - the constitution doesnt protect someone from being fired... i get that. his job was not constitutionally protected. that doesnt mean what happened was right either. msnbc cbs and most other corporations need to stop rolling up into a fetal position and sucking their thumb whenever some group with their own agenda starts rattling sabers. grow a set of fucking balls i say to them. sharpton and those like him are nothing more than schoolyard bullies shaking kids down for their lunch money. the more kids who cry and give in to them the more powerful they think they are. but once someone finally decides enough is enough and stands up to the bully they quickly slink away. watch the legislators jump on this next.... weve had hate crime laws for several years now... watch out here comes hate speech laws. utter something in public that someone somewhere finds offensive and prepare to spend some time behind bars. you may think thats rediculous... im sure people 20 years ago thought it rediculous that there could be such a thing as a hate crime too. .

From : joe

@fe11.phx roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! good. he sucked anyway. yeah. it must have been pretty hard for you to keep up with the current events discussions. not to mention global events in places you couldnt find with an atlas. steve wtfs your problem steve you a nappy-headed ho or sumpin .

From : steve b

good. he sucked anyway. are you really that stupid you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you its not about whether you liked what he did or what he said - its about the fundamental concept of free speech. oh i know - the constitution doesnt protect someone from being fired... i get that. his job was not constitutionally protected. that doesnt mean what happened was right either. msnbc cbs and most other corporations need to stop rolling up into a fetal position and sucking their thumb whenever some group with their own agenda starts rattling sabers. grow a set of fucking balls i say to them. sharpton and those like him are nothing more than schoolyard bullies shaking kids down for their lunch money. the more kids who cry and give in to them the more powerful they think they are. but once someone finally decides enough is enough and stands up to the bully they quickly slink away. watch the legislators jump on this next.... weve had hate crime laws for several years now... watch out here comes hate speech laws. utter something in public that someone somewhere finds offensive and prepare to spend some time behind bars. you may think thats rediculous... im sure people 20 years ago thought it rediculous that there could be such a thing as a hate crime too. no one got too upset about what rosie spewed about our troops and other very sensitive things. care to guess why shes a woman shes fat shes gay shes a gay fat woman just making a few guesses myself............ good gawd that has to smell like a week old dead carp ........... steve .

From : joe

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in good. he sucked anyway. are you really that stupid you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you its not about whether you liked what he did or what he said - its about the fundamental concept of free speech. oh i know - the constitution doesnt protect someone from being fired... i get that. his job was not constitutionally protected. that doesnt mean what happened was right either. msnbc cbs and most other corporations need to stop rolling up into a fetal position and sucking their thumb whenever some group with their own agenda starts rattling sabers. grow a set of fucking balls i say to them. sharpton and those like him are nothing more than schoolyard bullies shaking kids down for their lunch money. the more kids who cry and give in to them the more powerful they think they are. but once someone finally decides enough is enough and stands up to the bully they quickly slink away. watch the legislators jump on this next.... weve had hate crime laws for several years now... watch out here comes hate speech laws. utter something in public that someone somewhere finds offensive and prepare to spend some time behind bars. you may think thats rediculous... im sure people 20 years ago thought it rediculous that there could be such a thing as a hate crime too. hey tom lighten the hell up. imus simply sucks because hes not that funny. .

From : steve b

unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where were al and the reverend jessie when all the rappers were calling the ladies the same thing .

From : scott hendryx

unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where were al and the reverend jessie when all the rappers were calling the ladies the same thing the were on the downlow! -- ------moparman------ tedward said eggs are really good for you. they have all the nutrition needed to make a chicken. .

From : azwiley1

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From : fm

roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! good hes a jerk. whenever id see him on the cable channel i had to laugh at his stupidity. .

From : bill dunkenfield

roy wrote unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he wasnt fired because of what he said. he was fired because the sponsors of his program bailed out. money talks imus bullshit walks. jam .

From : joe

roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! good. he sucked anyway. .

From : Annonymous

on sat 14 apr 2007 132644 gmt bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. maybe your mind is at the core of the problem. or your lack of a fucking mind. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. i am simply amazed at that trash of bullshit that you just spewed out your ass. thank you! you have done more than i could ever do to expose your ignorance. how is life out on the fringes actually not too bad. thank you for asking jam. jam .

From : max dodge

long live the first amendment. amen to that! however the first amendment is not absolute. yes it is absolute. you are guaranteed the right to say what you want when you want so long as it does not cause physical harm chaos or in some way place members of society in jeopardy. calling someone a nappy headed ho isnt putting anyone in any sort of harm. as other have said take a look at all the rap and hip hop lyrics that are protected by the first amendment. lying under oath or to the police is a crime. lies are not protected as a right. inciting others to commit criminal acts will get you arrested. this depends on the depth of ones involvement. our society must respect the right of people to spew hate from the pulpit and in the press. we are not required to give them moral or financial support. we are however required to protect their first amendment rights. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author max dodge wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. anyone that continues to endorse it prom

From : bob m

comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. and yet by limiting those comments we limit what makes us the society we are... the first amendment. so what should we do about racial slurs ignore them. if you are so goddamned hurt by a racial comment that you cannot see yourself as better than the word then you need to work on being better. imus got fucked by the execs who have no balls. the only reason racism is an issue anymore is the sharpton jackson coalition. if they put half as much effort into raising money for non whites yeah more than just blacks but all colors in the rainbow coalition to get an education the minorities they speak for would be able to speak for themselves. so where do we draw the line between racism and freedom of speech i say we tolerate both and racism will die out and the first amendment will thrive. if you get called names and cannot feel that you are better than what those names denote see a fucking psychiatrist or shoot yourself. ive had first hand experience with racism and its not some jackass on the radio calling people names. racism is the black man who mowed and still does in his 70s my grandmothers lawn. he is very accomplished in life and has a marriage that would rival the best for longevity and faithfulness. his kids grew up in the american dream joined the military got educations etc. he has my utmost respect for his work ethic his moral standards and his accomplishments in life. and yet when my grandmother died he felt it was necessary to come to me in person before the memorial service and ask permission to attend the service. racism isnt words spoken to this man he clearly knows he is better than that. racism is the fact that the society in that part of the nation demanded he get permission to attend a white womans funeral even though she was a friend and business associate. so while you prattle on about what imus said being so terrible and which i am sure offended the lady scarlet knights its still not racism. long live the first amendment. -- max long live the first amendment. amen to that! however the first amendment is not absolute. lying under oath or to the police is a crime. inciting others to commit criminal acts will get you arrested. our society must respect the right of people to spew hate from the pulpit and in the press. we are not required to give them moral or financial support. jam .

From : napalmheart

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From : napalmheart

not saying that i agree with this just as i see it. because people that belong to a particular group are given more freedom to attack their own group unless youre bill cosby. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. the bigwig on countdown the other night admitted the action of firing imus wasnt a good one financially. sadly sharpton jackson arent whining about the duke lax team either.... they got screwed and sharpton jackson had not a word to say. i remember a song by stevie wonder that had the words when i was a nappy haired boy. i dont recall any outcry. i wonder why. max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author imus lost his job because he was no longer a source of income for his employer. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. unfortunately the company wet their pants and knee-jerked bowing to the pressure put on them by a criminal a liar a slanderer and a bigot. way to go cbs... history repeats itself. .

From : mike simmons

napalmheart wrote imus is b-o-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ing! glad hes gone. it isnt just imus. i just saw on the that there are groups that want more federal regulation on what is broadcast - translation restrictions on conservative talk radio. ill bet if you followed the money youd find george soros behind all of this. ken translation restrictions on conservative talk radio. only in your mind. the also mentioned howard stern. jam http//wnd.com//article.asparticleid=55182 .

From : bill dunkenfield

mike simmons wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. bill i must respectfully disagree. the comments made my imus were offensive but racist the words imus used are quite common amonst blacks in in their daily language. listen to the lyrics of a rap song if you can and you will hear the same words and worse!. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. does that apply to comments made by blacks about whites as well or ala shartop and jackson do you too have a double standard mike you bet mike it does apply to all. i dont know that sharpton or jackson said anything hateful or racially intolerant. i think they were speaking against such things. jam so i guess when the reverend jackson called nyc hymietown that was ok mike .

From : mike w

if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .

From : me

imus is b-o-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ing! glad hes gone. .

From : craig c

on apr 13 412 am hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote fact is whitey needs a representative whoring himself/herself out like sharpton does for the black community. we had one but jer died 4/23/98. wow. im not touching that one with a 10 foot pole. - craig c. .

From : tom lawrence

hey tom lighten the hell up. imus simply sucks because hes not that funny. yeah.... who cares that someone got the big-time shaft and had his job taken away from him by a couple of pompous hipocritical bigoted racists - who have now said that this is just the beginning. you didnt like him so it doesnt matter. i guess youre fine with the old woman in nyc a few weeks ago getting the snot beat out of her because you didnt know her either. forgive me if i dont lighten up at this situation .

From : craig c

on apr 12 557 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote are you really that stupid you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you i agree that censorship is completely unacceptable. when i first read this story i was angered by the special interest whores like sharpton. he cant wait for a moment to put his fat mouth on camera. in fact imus comments more closely describe sharpton than that group of gals. looking at it from a business perspective however ... cbs and nbc sell a product air time. they are keenly interested in remaining competitive. bringing it closer to home if i were do something to harm the product my company produces/sells id be fired regardless of what got said in the process. i dont really see this as any different. imus overall ratings trend was flat at best. the nail in the coffin was not the comments themselves but how they further ruined the product nbc and cbs were selling. just a thought. craig c. .

From : mike simmons

on apr 12 557 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote are you really that stupid you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you i agree that censorship is completely unacceptable. when i first read this story i was angered by the special interest whores like sharpton. he cant wait for a moment to put his fat mouth on camera. in fact imus comments more closely describe sharpton than that group of gals. looking at it from a business perspective however ... cbs and nbc sell a product air time. they are keenly interested in remaining competitive. bringing it closer to home if i were do something to harm the product my company produces/sells id be fired regardless of what got said in the process. i dont really see this as any different. imus overall ratings trend was flat at best. the nail in the coffin was not the comments themselves but how they further ruined the product nbc and cbs were selling. just a thought. craig c. i think you hit the nail on the head craig! i am most definetely not an imus fan but duirng this whole episode i have been wondering what would have happened if a black shock jock would have uttered those same words. my guess is that the silence would have been deafening. mike .

From : craig c

on apr 12 739 pm mike simmons mike...@yhti.net wrote i think you hit the nail on the head craig! i am most definetely not an imus fan but duirng this whole episode i have been wondering what would have happened if a black shock jock would have uttered those same words. my guess is that the silence would have been deafening. hrm if a black shock jock made a comment about a group of white women like blond fake tittied money grubbing cry baby cracka if his ratings were flat or low hed likely be fired *especially* if there was a media circus. howard stern said things 1 million times more racist than imus did. he kept his job with nbc ... why high ratings time and time again. ratings = $$$. fact is whitey needs a representative whoring himself/herself out like sharpton does for the black community. craig c. .

From : bill dunkenfield

geekboy wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. you are wrong. you need to watch comedy central instead of fox . racial jokes are just fine when its understood that it is just a joke. imus was not making a joke. jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you it scares the hell out of me! that is why i support the first amendment. the so called separation of church and state. fundamentalist of all religions are the greatest threat to freedom our world has known. jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

tom lawrence wrote hey tom lighten the hell up. imus simply sucks because hes not that funny. yeah.... who cares that someone got the big-time shaft and had his job taken away from him by a couple of pompous hipocritical bigoted racists - who have now said that this is just the beginning. you didnt like him so it doesnt matter. i guess youre fine with the old woman in nyc a few weeks ago getting the snot beat out of her because you didnt know her either. forgive me if i dont lighten up at this situation imus lost his job because he was no longer a source of income for his employer. jam .

From : tom lawrence

imus lost his job because he was no longer a source of income for his employer. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. unfortunately the company wet their pants and knee-jerked bowing to the pressure put on them by a criminal a liar a slanderer and a bigot. way to go cbs... history repeats itself. .

From : tom lawrence

i think you hit the nail on the head craig! i am most definetely not an imus fan but duirng this whole episode i have been wondering what would have happened if a black shock jock would have uttered those same words. my guess is that the silence would have been deafening. how about a black man who conspired with others to defame and criminalize a county prosecutor and other law enforcement personnel - got caught doing so was sued found liable and has refused to pay the court-ordered penalties oh yeah.... you elevate him to a community leader run him as a presidential candidate and give him a radio show. can someone please stop the earth from spinning id like to get off... .

From : miles

steve b wrote where were al and the reverend jessie when all the rappers were calling the ladies the same thing where are al and jessie with their apologies to the duke boys they called them racists and were guilty as charged when that case started. .

From : bill dunkenfield

tom lawrence wrote imus lost his job because he was no longer a source of income for his employer. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. unfortunately the company wet their pants and knee-jerked bowing to the pressure put on them by a criminal a liar a slanderer and a bigot. way to go cbs... history repeats itself. the only liar slanderer and bigot that counts is imus. jam .

From : joe

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in hey tom lighten the hell up. imus simply sucks because hes not that funny. yeah.... who cares that someone got the big-time shaft and had his job taken away from him by a couple of pompous hipocritical bigoted racists - who have now said that this is just the beginning. wrong. he got fired simply because of pressure put to cbs. you didnt like him so it doesnt matter. damn straight. i guess youre fine with the old woman in nyc a few weeks ago getting the snot beat out of her because you didnt know her either. hold it right there wad. you are the fanatic that is jumping from one story to the next making stupid raving accusations. your baggage has nothing to do with me. forgive me if i dont lighten up at this situation your rant is just that - a rant from a moronic fanatic. go take a few ludes. .

From : joe

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in i think you hit the nail on the head craig! i am most definetely not an imus fan but duirng this whole episode i have been wondering what would have happened if a black shock jock would have uttered those same words. my guess is that the silence would have been deafening. how about a black man who conspired with others to defame and criminalize a county prosecutor and other law enforcement personnel - got caught doing so was sued found liable and has refused to pay the court-ordered penalties oh yeah.... you elevate him to a community leader run him as a presidential candidate and give him a radio show. can someone please stop the earth from spinning id like to get off... heres the real deal if youre interested http//www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html .

From : geekboy

geekboy wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. you are wrong. you need to watch comedy central instead of fox . racial jokes are just fine when its understood that it is just a joke. imus was not making a joke. oh yeah just like when kramer make a joke using the nigger word get real jam .

From : roy

unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where were al and the reverend jessie when all the rappers were calling the ladies the same thing i never heard jackson apologize for his hymie town remark. or hear of sharpton apologize for the brawlysp deal. who coined the phrase ho hmmm would it be rappers who market to blacks no double standard going on. .

From : geekboy

geekboy wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. you are wrong. you need to watch comedy central instead of fox . racial jokes are just fine when its understood that it is just a joke. imus was not making a joke. and an intersting comment from a black man from a link someone else here posted ========= its embarrassing. dave chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on tv. he was hailed as a genius. black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people and we all laugh out loud. im no don imus apologist. he and his tiny companion mike lupica blasted me after i fell out with espn. imus is a hack. but in my view he didnt do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. he also offered an apology. that shouldve been the end of this whole affair. instead its only the beginning. its an opportunity for stringer jackson and sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$. http//www.kansascity.com80/182/story/66339.html jam .

From : marsh monster

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From : big al

unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where were al and the reverend jessie when all the rappers were calling the ladies the same thing i never heard jackson apologize for his hymie town remark. or hear of sharpton apologize for the brawlysp deal. who coined the phrase ho hmmm would it be rappers who market to blacks no double standard going on. http//www.slate.com/id/2087557/ .

From : geekboy

unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where were al and the reverend jessie when all the rappers were calling the ladies the same thing i never heard jackson apologize for his hymie town remark. or hear of sharpton apologize for the brawlysp deal. who coined the phrase ho hmmm would it be rappers who market to blacks no double standard going on. nor for the duke boys .

From : beekeep

on thu 12 apr 2007 174151 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. i believe the term cracker refered to the whip man back during slavery days. the term honkey came later when white drivers would honk at the blacks to let them know they would be run over if they didnt move out of the way pretty quick. so whats to offend whites by that i still miss the grease man. beekeep .

From : steve b

on thu 12 apr 2007 174151 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. i believe the term cracker refered to the whip man back during slavery days. the term honkey came later when white drivers would honk at the blacks to let them know they would be run over if they didnt move out of the way pretty quick. so whats to offend whites by that i still miss the grease man. beekeep im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. so actually the term nigger rose out of niger and was a reflection of a lack of knowledge by americans of world geography. but please dont tell al or the reverend jackson about it because the thoroughly educated beyond their capacity pompous asses probably dont know the history of it anyway. steve .

From : steve b

roy roy@home.net wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. and then when bill cosby points it out they want to rip him apart like a bunch of pit bulls. but then what can you point out to someone whose idea of success is a pitbull on a leash and a mercedes hubcap for a necklace steve .

From : beekeep

on 12 apr 2007 174855 -0700 craig c. mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote on apr 12 739 pm mike simmons mike...@yhti.net wrote i think you hit the nail on the head craig! i am most definetely not an imus fan but duirng this whole episode i have been wondering what would have happened if a black shock jock would have uttered those same words. my guess is that the silence would have been deafening. fact is whitey needs a representative whoring himself/herself out like sharpton does for the black community. craig c. we had one but jer died 4/23/98. beekeep .

From : beekeep

on fri 13 apr 2007 010843 gmt bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net wrote you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you it scares the hell out of me! that is why i support the first amendment. the so called separation of church and state. fundamentalist of all religions are the greatest threat to freedom our world has known. jam maybe this will bring budd out of the woodwork. beekeep .

From : mike simmons

you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you it scares the hell out of me! that is why i support the first amendment. the so called separation of church and state. fundamentalist of all religions are the greatest threat to freedom our world has known. jam bill even though sharpton and jackson are involved this has nothing to do with religion. in fact sharpton and jackson themselves have nothing to do with religion unless it somehow enriches themselves. mike .

From : steve b

you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you it scares the hell out of me! that is why i support the first amendment. the so called separation of church and state. fundamentalist of all religions are the greatest threat to freedom our world has known. jam bill even though sharpton and jackson are involved this has nothing to do with religion. in fact sharpton and jackson themselves have nothing to do with religion unless it somehow enriches themselves. mike you are dead wrong. spirituality is when a man looks up to some belief he considers bigger than himself. religion is when he brings in a collection plate and develops a taste for $600 suits. steve .

From : steve b

@fe11.phx roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! good. he sucked anyway. yeah. it must have been pretty hard for you to keep up with the current events discussions. not to mention global events in places you couldnt find with an atlas. steve wtfs your problem steve you a nappy-headed ho or sumpin i rest my case. if thats the best you can come up with in your limited vocabulary i can see how you would not comprehend any of the complex issues or current events talked about on the don imus show. hence the short garbled statement good. he sucked anyway. is english your second language did you graduate from high school did you make it that far can you form sentences and paragraphs to express themes and ideas to support your positions or conclusions from reading your short sentences of poor grammar spelling and punctuation id say you are just some trailer trash with a dodge truck who is more likely to giggle while listening to howard stern than to understand the topics and nuances of don imus. howard stern the shock jock not anna nicoles parasite friend. whoops sorry. need any of those complicated words explained go back and finish high school. its never too late. the internet also has writing courses. a mind is a terrible thing to waste and i hope it is not too late for you. cordially steve .

From : roy

on thu 12 apr 2007 174151 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. i believe the term cracker refered to the whip man back during slavery days. the term honkey came later when white drivers would honk at the blacks to let them know they would be run over if they didnt move out of the way pretty quick. so whats to offend whites by that i still miss the grease man. beekeep im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. so actually the term nigger rose out of niger and was a reflection of a lack of knowledge by americans of world geography. but please dont tell al or the reverend jackson about it because the thoroughly educated beyond their capacity pompous asses probably dont know the history of it anyway. steve the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. .

From : joe

steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote in steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote in roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! !! good. he sucked anyway. yeah. it must have been pretty hard for you to keep up with the current events discussions. not to mention global events in places you couldnt find with an atlas. steve wtfs your problem steve you a nappy-headed ho or sumpin i rest my case. steve you dont have a case. all you have are assumptions and allegations. if thats the best you can come up with in your limited vocabulary my question was at the same level as your comment. i can see how you would not comprehend any of the complex issues or current events talked about on the don imus show. now thats a good one. like imus show is right up there with mclaughlin. you are just too funny steve. hence the short garbled statement good. he sucked anyway. uh he did and does. the man is simply not funny. is english your second language did you graduate from high school did you make it that far can you form sentences and paragraphs to express themes and ideas to support your positions or conclusions guess what brainiac i stated an opinion. dont like it sorry for you. flash i dont need to justify anything to you as you come across as a fanatic just the same as these idiots sharpton and jackson. from reading your short sentences of poor grammar spelling and punctuation id say you are just some trailer trash with a dodge truck who is more likely to giggle while listening to howard stern than to understand the topics and nuances of don imus. howard stern the shock jock not anna nicoles parasite friend. whoops sorry. need any of those complicated words explained and from your pompous ignorant rant id say you are a fanatical idiot with self-image problems. go back and finish high school. its never too late. the internet also has writing courses. a mind is a terrible thing to waste and i hope it is not too late for you. cordially steve a bit of advice there steve take a few more ludes. theyll do you good. and down them with a few beers too. might put you in a nice frame of mind. have a nice day while youre at it although thats a tall order... .

From : geekboy

on thu 12 apr 2007 174151 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. i believe the term cracker refered to the whip man back during slavery days. the term honkey came later when white drivers would honk at the blacks to let them know they would be run over if they didnt move out of the way pretty quick. so whats to offend whites by that i still miss the grease man. beekeep im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. so actually the term nigger rose out of niger and was a reflection of a lack of knowledge by americans of world geography. but please dont tell al or the reverend jackson about it because the thoroughly educated beyond their capacity pompous asses probably dont know the history of it anyway. steve the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. moral poverty cost blacks in new orleans say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. two questions 1.. what would you do 2.. what would you do if you were black sadly the two questions dont have the same answer. to the first most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. then able-bodied men would return to help others in need as wives and others cared for children elderly infirm and the like. for better or worse hurricane katrina has told us the answer to the second question. if youre black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city then youll probably wait for the government to save you. this was not always the case. prior to 40 years ago such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. the first response would have come from black men. they would take care of their families bring them to safety and then help the rest of the community. then local government would come in. no longer. when 75 percent of new orleans residents had left the city it was primarily immoral welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. this as we know did not turn out good results. enter jesse jackson and louis farrakhan. jackson and farrakhan laid blame on racist president bush. farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. the two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild new orleans above and beyond the federal governments proposed $60 billion. not only that these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. perfect two of the most dishonest elite blacks in america overseeing billions of dollars. i wonder where that money will end up. of course if these two were really serious about laying blame on government they should blame the local one. responsibility to perform - legally and practically - fell first on the mayor of new orleans. we are now all familiar with mayor ray nagin - the black democrat who likes to yell at president bush for failing to do nagins job. the facts unfortunately do not support nagins wailing. as the washington times puts it recent reports show nagin failed to follow through on his own citys emergency-response plan which acknowledged that thousands of the citys poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city. one wonders how there was no way for these people to evacuate the city. we have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. youve probably seen it by now - the photo showing 200 parked school buses unused and underwater. how much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town mayor nagin instead of doing the obvious mayor nagin with no positive contribution from democratic gov. kathleen blanco the other major l

From : geekboy

on thu 12 apr 2007 174151 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote if you dont like what someone says silence them. that is scary . . . imus has made a career out of being a curmudgeon and making fun of every group known to man. there is no sense of humor about anything nowadays. sure there is it is just only whites are the only ones who are racist and its okay for other groups to call whitey names like cracker or blue eyed devil or honkey then to have groups like naacp national council of la raza miss black america but oh if a white person does it then its neo nazi racism. i believe the term cracker refered to the whip man back during slavery days. the term honkey came later when white drivers would honk at the blacks to let them know they would be run over if they didnt move out of the way pretty quick. so whats to offend whites by that white cracker or simply cracker was originally a pejorative term for a white person mainly used by blacks in the southern united states a usage that is now as of 2005 somewhat archaic. the term cracker was and is used most frequently in the southern u.s. especially in georgia and florida. since the 1870s a nickname for georgia is the cracker state. usage of the term cracker generally differs from hick and hillbilly because crackers reject or resist assimilation into the dominant culture while hicks and hillbillies theoretically are isolated from the dominant culture. in this way cracker culture is similar to redneck culture. ----------- the word honky as a term for whites derives from bohunk and hunky. in the early 1900s these were derogatory terms for bohemian hungarian and polish immigrants. according to robert hendrickson author of the encyclopedia of word and phrase origins black workers in chicago meat-packing plants picked up the term from white workers and began applying it indiscriminately to all caucasians. honky was later adopted as a pejorative meaning white in 1967 by black militants within sncc seeking a rebuttal for the term nigger. they settled on a familiar word they felt was disparaging to certain americans of european descent; hunkie meaning an american of slavic or hungarian descent i still miss the grease man. beekeep .

From : geekboy

bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam political correctness not helping says pm community leaders react angrily to comments patrick wintour and vikram dodd thursday april 12 2007 the guardian tony blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in london was not being caused by poverty but a distinctive black culture. his remarks angered community leaders who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem. one accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a downing street summit. black community leaders reacted after mr blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave but as specific to black youth. he said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped by pretending it is not young black kids doing it. ....more... http//www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0205514800.html .

From : roy

unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my point wasnt whether imus was funny or not. more that 2 self promoting racist pigs are attempting to dictate what can and cannot be said. in this case they pulled it off. if that doesnt bother you you best wake the hell up imo. for anybody to give any credence to sharpton and jackson and their position on anything blows my mind. .

From : bob m

roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. .

From : tom lawrence

my point wasnt whether imus was funny or not. its stunning how blind most people are to the bigger picture isnt it .

From : bill dunkenfield

bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam .

From : joe

roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! my point wasnt whether imus was funny or not. simple because he wasnt funny imo was reason enough for him to be canned. of course thats got nothing to do with the current situation... more that 2 self promoting racist pigs are attempting to dictate what can and cannot be said. in this case they pulled it off. if that doesnt bother you you best wake the hell up imo. i think cbs canned him not because of those two clowns specifically but because of the anticipated fallout caused by those two clowns. its a simple case of an employer taking action before the inevitable crash. for anybody to give any credence to sharpton and jackson and their position on anything blows my mind. those two idiots are bottom feeders. jason whitlock kansas city star columnist sums it all up better than anything ive heard http//www.youtube.com80/watchv=l5zqxaxmcw4 .

From : roy

my point wasnt whether imus was funny or not. its stunning how blind most people are to the bigger picture isnt it i know that i shouldnt be surprised but at times like this i am. .

From : napalmheart

imus is b-o-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ing! glad hes gone. it isnt just imus. i just saw on the that there are groups that want more federal regulation on what is broadcast - translation restrictions on conservative talk radio. ill bet if you followed the money youd find george soros behind all of this. ken .

From : roy

bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam where do you live .

From : napalmheart

im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria .

From : azwiley1

theives will never know which house does or doesnt maybe they will break in for the gun over anything else . 222 333133 1176499808.134850.244550@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com on apr 13 1116 am bill dunkenfield billdunkenfi...@nospam.net wrote bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam if you dont like it get the fuck out or stop reading it. imo sharpton and jackson are racist uncle toms! they only give a shit about themselves and anything that can make them appear to be pillars and leaders of the black community. neither of them ever go after any thing that is black on black even when it is needed. as an example to this take the nypd shooting of that black kid one of the fucking cops was black! are they asking that he be hung out to dry no! are they grandstanding that issue like the did imus no! if they are such leaders why the hell arent they doing something to stop all the ignorance and hatered instead of promoting it and grandstanding it. sorry but the black community as a whole will be better off when these two uncle toms are out of the picture! .

From : max dodge

right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. the bigwig on countdown the other night admitted the action of firing imus wasnt a good one financially. sadly sharpton jackson arent whining about the duke lax team either.... they got screwed and sharpton jackson had not a word to say. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author imus lost his job because he was no longer a source of income for his employer. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. unfortunately the company wet their pants and knee-jerked bowing to the pressure put on them by a criminal a liar a slanderer and a bigot. way to go cbs... history repeats itself. .

From : roy

right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. the bigwig on countdown the other night admitted the action of firing imus wasnt a good one financially. sadly sharpton jackson arent whining about the duke lax team either.... they got screwed and sharpton jackson had not a word to say. i remember a song by stevie wonder that had the words when i was a nappy haired boy. i dont recall any outcry. i wonder why. max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author imus lost his job because he was no longer a source of income for his employer. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. unfortunately the company wet their pants and knee-jerked bowing to the pressure put on them by a criminal a liar a slanderer and a bigot. way to go cbs... history repeats itself. .

From : steve b

im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria thank you. what did you think of the meat of the story is this going to affect my final grade steve .

From : bill dunkenfield

geekboy wrote bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam political correctness not helping says pm community leaders react angrily to comments patrick wintour and vikram dodd thursday april 12 2007 the guardian tony blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in london was not being caused by poverty but a distinctive black culture. his remarks angered community leaders who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem. one accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a downing street summit. black community leaders reacted after mr blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave but as specific to black youth. he said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped by pretending it is not young black kids doing it. ...more... http//www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0205514800.html white trash = black trash i dont know of any black serial killers. i do remember eric robert rudolph. jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

roy wrote bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam where do you live we got white trash as well s black trash where i live. how about you jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

azwiley1 wrote on apr 13 1116 am bill dunkenfield billdunkenfi...@nospam.net wrote bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam if you dont like it get the fuck out or stop reading it. imo sharpton and jackson are racist uncle toms! they only give a shit about themselves and anything that can make them appear to be pillars and leaders of the black community. neither of them ever go after any thing that is black on black even when it is needed. as an example to this take the nypd shooting of that black kid one of the fucking cops was black! are they asking that he be hung out to dry no! are they grandstanding that issue like the did imus no! if they are such leaders why the hell arent they doing something to stop all the ignorance and hatered instead of promoting it and grandstanding it. sorry but the black community as a whole will be better off when these two uncle toms are out of the picture! ya we have a bunch of racist white trash on this side too. many of them have been elected leaders in the local state and the federal governments. jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

napalmheart wrote imus is b-o-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ing! glad hes gone. it isnt just imus. i just saw on the that there are groups that want more federal regulation on what is broadcast - translation restrictions on conservative talk radio. ill bet if you followed the money youd find george soros behind all of this. ken translation restrictions on conservative talk radio. only in your mind. the also mentioned howard stern. jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

joe wrote roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! my point wasnt whether imus was funny or not. simple because he wasnt funny imo was reason enough for him to be canned. of course thats got nothing to do with the current situation... more that 2 self promoting racist pigs are attempting to dictate what can and cannot be said. in this case they pulled it off. if that doesnt bother you you best wake the hell up imo. i think cbs canned him not because of those two clowns specifically but because of the anticipated fallout caused by those two clowns. its a simple case of an employer taking action before the inevitable crash. for anybody to give any credence to sharpton and jackson and their position on anything blows my mind. those two idiots are bottom feeders. jason whitlock kansas city star columnist sums it all up better than anything ive heard http//www.youtube.com80/watchv=l5zqxaxmcw4 cbs fired him because sponsors were baling out. money talks imus bullshit walks. jam .

From : joe

bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net wrote in joe wrote roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! !!! my point wasnt whether imus was funny or not. simple because he wasnt funny imo was reason enough for him to be canned. of course thats got nothing to do with the current situation... more that 2 self promoting racist pigs are attempting to dictate what can and cannot be said. in this case they pulled it off. if that doesnt bother you you best wake the hell up imo. i think cbs canned him not because of those two clowns specifically but because of the anticipated fallout caused by those two clowns. its a simple case of an employer taking action before the inevitable crash. for anybody to give any credence to sharpton and jackson and their position on anything blows my mind. those two idiots are bottom feeders. jason whitlock kansas city star columnist sums it all up better than anything ive heard http//www.youtube.com80/watchv=l5zqxaxmcw4

From : napalmheart

money talks imus bullshit walks. jam uh thats what i already said. . 222 333145 132041o8ssim612@corp.super.com im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria thank you. what did you think of the meat of the story is this going to affect my final grade steve i give no grades. i just prefer accuracy. the origin of the word may be as you say. i have heard other theories that may also be true. it really doesnt interest me. ken .

From : joe

azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote in on apr 13 1116 am bill dunkenfield billdunkenfi...@nospam.net wrote bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam if you dont like it get the fuck out or stop reading it. imo sharpton and jackson are racist uncle toms! they only give a shit about themselves and anything that can make them appear to be pillars and leaders of the black community. neither of them ever go after any thing that is black on black even when it is needed. as an example to this take the nypd shooting of that black kid one of the fucking cops was black! are they asking that he be hung out to dry no! are they grandstanding that issue like the did imus no! if they are such leaders why the hell arent they doing something to stop all the ignorance and hatered instead of promoting it and grandstanding it. sorry but the black community as a whole will be better off when these two uncle toms are out of the picture! like i already said those two idiots are bottom feeders. they need to leave the planet. .

From : napalmheart

napalmheart wrote imus is b-o-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-ing! glad hes gone. it isnt just imus. i just saw on the that there are groups that want more federal regulation on what is broadcast - translation restrictions on conservative talk radio. ill bet if you followed the money youd find george soros behind all of this. ken translation restrictions on conservative talk radio. only in your mind. the also mentioned howard stern. jam afa stern hes not on broadcast radio anyway. the little i saw of him he wasnt that overtly political. kotjmf .

From : mike simmons

you mean to tell me that the ability of a special interest group to simply delete those whos views and beliefs dont mesh with theirs doesnt scare the hell out of you it scares the hell out of me! that is why i support the first amendment. the so called separation of church and state. fundamentalist of all religions are the greatest threat to freedom our world has known. jam bill even though sharpton and jackson are involved this has nothing to do with religion. in fact sharpton and jackson themselves have nothing to do with religion unless it somehow enriches themselves. mike you are dead wrong. spirituality is when a man looks up to some belief he considers bigger than himself. religion is when he brings in a collection plate and develops a taste for $600 suits. steve steve you can parse words anyway you see fit but i think you get my meaning mike .

From : napalmheart

because people that belong to a particular group are given more freedom to attack their own group unless youre bill cosby. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. the bigwig on countdown the other night admitted the action of firing imus wasnt a good one financially. sadly sharpton jackson arent whining about the duke lax team either.... they got screwed and sharpton jackson had not a word to say. i remember a song by stevie wonder that had the words when i was a nappy haired boy. i dont recall any outcry. i wonder why. max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author

From : Annonymous

on fri 13 apr 2007 184522 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote geekboy wrote bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam political correctness not helping says pm community leaders react angrily to comments patrick wintour and vikram dodd thursday april 12 2007 the guardian tony blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in london was not being caused by poverty but a distinctive black culture. his remarks angered community leaders who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem. one accused him of misunderstanding the advice he ha

From : bill dunkenfield

here is the way i see this. on the one hand i saw no racial bias in imus comment. he says that stuff all the time. now i agree with those that say that the imus show wasnt particularly funny but it wasnt particularly offfensive either. he ridiculed people of all colors. how can you have a problem with that this whole racial bias thing is strange anyway. and sharpton hes an idiot. there are idiots of all colors........but im telling you..... sharpton is lead off hitter for the group. on the other hand.......imus chose his playground. he made millions of bucks doing what he did and he pandered to his advertisers. when you decide to play in that playground you gota play by someone elses rules and he simply got caught violating someone elses rules. thats really his problem. hate to see race be the issue that got him.......it could have been any one of hundreds and in the long run it isnt gonna help the whole race deal. did imus get screwed he sure did. but at least the man gotta chose his place to fight. racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. jam http//tinyurl.com/29ca8b its a hard life its a hard life its a very hard life its a hard life wherever you go and if we poison our children with hatred then a hard life is all they will know. nanci griffith .

From : geekboy

imus lost his job because he was no longer a source of income for his employer. right.... thats why its now estimated that cbs lost $15m a year in revenue from his show. not all his advertisers left and those who did - would soon be replaced with others. it simply requires a modicum of courage to weather the storm so to speak. unfortunately the company wet their pants and knee-jerked bowing to the pressure put on them by a criminal a liar a slanderer and a bigot. way to go cbs... history repeats itself. . 222 333150 46201624$0$1389$4c368faf@roadrunner.com geekboy wrote bob m wrote roy wrote the thing that really gripes me is how much we spend on black on black crime. they are the ones that are victimizing each other. yup. but it is a form of crime prevention. the only thing better for crime prevention would have been if the nappy headed hos would have abortions. wow it looks like this group is full of ignorant white trash! jam political correctness not helping says pm community leaders react angrily to comments patrick wintour and vikram dodd thursday april 12 2007 the guardian tony blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in london was not being caused by poverty but a distinctive black culture. his remarks angered community leaders who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem. one accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a downing street summit. black community leaders reacted after mr blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave but as specific to black youth. he said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped by pretending it is not young black kids doing it. ...more... http//www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0205514800.html white trash = black trash i dont know of any black serial killers. daily drive by shootings are not serial killings i do remember eric robert rudolph. jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

joe wrote bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net wrote in joe wrote roy roy@home.net wrote in unfuckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! !!! my point wasnt whether imus was funny or not. simple because he wasnt funny imo was reason enough for him to be canned. of course thats got nothing to do with the current situation... more that 2 self promoting racist pigs are attempting to dictate what can and cannot be said. in this case they pulled it off. if that doesnt bother you you best wake the hell up imo. i think cbs canned him not because of those two clowns specifically but because of the anticipated fallout caused by those two clowns. its a simple case of an employer taking action before the inevitable crash. for anybody to give any credence to sharpton and jackson and their position on anything blows my mind. those two idiots are bottom feeders. jason whitlock kansas city star columnist sums it all up better than anything ive heard http//www.youtube.com80/watchv=l5zqxaxmcw4 cbs fired him because sponsors were baling out. money talks imus bullshit walks. jam uh thats what i already said. i thought it needed repeated. some of the posters here dont see it that way and are blaming his firing on others. jam .

From : langerhans

i have watched and listened to imus a couple of times and changed the channel in a minute or so....the mans an idiot. but the us is a country that is distinguished from others by the way we believe in the sanctity of law. not public opinion not political correctness but law. no matter how distasteful his moronic comments were he has the right to say them. we have the right to change the channel or tell his advertisers were not happy. nobody elected the revs. al or jesse as the sole arbiters of free speech. hell they have certainly both made racist remarks before and refused to apologize. unfortunately the american media love to stir the pot in the name of ratings and self-aggrandizement just like the two revs. while im no fan of imus i hope he sues the crap out of both the revs for tortuous interference with his contracts with msnbc and cbs. until somebody stands up and says not only no but hell no to these jerks there is just more to come. .

From : Annonymous

on sat 14 apr 2007 021035 gmt bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net wrote here is the way i see this. on the one hand i saw no racial bias in imus comment. he says that stuff all the time. now i agree with those that say that the imus show wasnt particularly funny but it wasnt particularly offfensive either. he ridiculed people of all colors. how can you have a problem with that this whole racial bias thing is strange anyway. and sharpton hes an idiot. there are idiots of all colors........but im telling you..... sharpton is lead off hitter for the group. on the other hand.......imus chose his playground. he made millions of bucks doing what he did and he pandered to his advertisers. when you decide to play in that playground you gota play by someone elses rules and he simply got caught violating someone elses rules. thats really his problem. hate to see race be the issue that got him.......it could have been any one of hundreds and in the long run it isnt gonna help the whole race deal. did imus get screwed he sure did. but at least the man gotta chose his place to fight. racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. maybe your mind is at the core of the problem. or your lack of a fucking mind. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. i am simply amazed at that trash of bullshit that you just spewed out your ass. jam http//tinyurl.com/29ca8b its a hard life its a hard life its a very hard life its a hard life wherever you go and if we poison our children with hatred then a hard life is all they will know. nanci griffith .

From : steve b

bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net slathered philosophically racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. jam http//tinyurl.com/29ca8b its a hard life its a hard life its a very hard life its a hard life wherever you go and if we poison our children with hatred then a hard life is all they will know. nanci griffith decent and honorable society start acting like decent and honorable members of society and be treated as such. and im not talking about being pc and trying not to offend people who need to be offended. im talking about dirty filthy dishonest promiscuous drug-using lazy victim-role-playing slugs no matter what their color. what i find indecent and dishonorable is calling them anything but what they are and giving special treatment. maybe if we just treated them better they wouldnt be dirty filthy dishonest promiscuous drug-using lazy victim-role-playing slugs. ya think we just need to love them more. and give them more. and let them take another pint of blood. yeah that ought to do it. steve .

From : steve b

i have watched and listened to imus a couple of times and changed the channel in a minute or so....the mans an idiot. but the us is a country that is distinguished from others by the way we believe in the sanctity of law. not public opinion not political correctness but law. no matter how distasteful his moronic comments were he has the right to say them. we have the right to change the channel or tell his advertisers were not happy. nobody elected the revs. al or jesse as the sole arbiters of free speech. hell they have certainly both made racist remarks before and refused to apologize. unfortunately the american media love to stir the pot in the name of ratings and self-aggrandizement just like the two revs. while im no fan of imus i hope he sues the crap out of both the revs for tortuous interference with his contracts with msnbc and cbs. until somebody stands up and says not only no but hell no to these jerks there is just more to come. i think this is a step up for don. there is already a groundswell against the powers that be for firing him and lots of good americans are speaking up against the revs and their ilk. i think after this plays out don will be better off than befo

From : max dodge

thanks. ill suggest both of those. excellent ideas. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. stormin mormon wrote my dad disregarded my advice and bought a chrysler. i cant remember the year age and so on. power everything. but the service engine light is on. can commoners like me buy a reset gadget i can contact him adn ask for more tech specs if you want or need. year mileage etc. disconnect the battery for several minutes. it will clear it unless this is a rather old car. if you do clear the code odds are it will just come back since the problem thats causing it hasnt been fixed. take it to an autozone as they will read the code for you for free. .

From : mike simmons

racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. and yet by limiting those comments we limit what makes us the society we are... the first amendment. so what should we do about racial slurs ignore them. if you are so goddamned hurt by a racial comment that you cannot see yourself as better than the word then you need to work on being better. imus got fucked by the execs who have no balls. the only reason racism is an issue anymore is the sharpton jackson coalition. if they put half as much effort into raising money for non whites yeah more than just blacks but all colors in the rainbow coalition to get an education the minorities they speak for would be able to speak for themselves. so where do we draw the line between racism and freedom of speech i say we tolerate both and racism will die out and the first amendment will thrive. if you get called names and cannot feel that you are better than what those names denote see a fucking psychiatrist or shoot yourself. ive had first hand experience with racism and its not some jackass on the radio calling people names. racism is the black man who mowed and still does in his 70s my grandmothers lawn. he is v

From : azwiley1

the us constitution protects stupid people too. explains tons about you! .

From : tbone

the us constitution protects stupid people too. explains tons about you! why is that do you think that it shouldnt -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

the crux of this issue is simple stupidity. stupidity infects all colors. stupid people only understand one language. the one i speak is .45 caliber. gee and ya wonder where gun control laws come from. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

craig c. wrote it prevents crime and there are volumes of data proving the stats ive read do indeed show a lower crime rate overall. however a higher violent crime rate often occurs. used to be that people used guns for planned crimes robberies etc. now they use them as a way to settle temper tantrums. .

From : beekeep

on fri 13 apr 2007 111212 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote moral poverty cost blacks in new orleans say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. two questions 1.. what would you do 2.. what would you do if you were black sadly the two questions dont have the same answer. to the first most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. then able-bodied men would return to help others in need as wives and others cared for children elderly infirm and the like. for better or worse hurricane katrina has told us the answer to the second question. if youre black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city then youll probably wait for the government to save you. this was not always the case. prior to 40 years ago such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. the first response would have come from black men. they would take care of their families bring them to safety and then help the rest of the community. then local government would come in. thats absolute bullshit. when this farm that i live on was bought back in 1958 it came with 13 niggers as the seller put it. no phone electric or running water in the tar paper shack that they lived in. it was up to us to see to it that they had enough to eat medical care etc. you had to make sure that the wife knew when the old man got his paycheck so she could keep him from going on a binge leaving his kids to starve. technically they were free people in reality they were kept people. beekeep .

From : bill dunkenfield

theguy@whatever.net wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. maybe your mind is at the core of the problem. or your lack of a fucking mind. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. i am simply amazed at that trash of bullshit that you just spewed out your ass. thank you! you have done more than i could ever do to expose your ignorance. how is life out on the fringes jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

steve b wrote bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net slathered philosophically racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. jam http//tinyurl.com/29ca8b its a hard life its a hard life its a very hard life its a hard life wherever you go and if we poison our children with hatred then a hard life is all they will know. nanci griffith decent and honorable society start acting like decent and honorable members of society and be treated as such. and im not talking about being pc and trying not to offend people who need to be offended. im talking about dirty filthy dishonest promiscuous drug-using lazy victim-role-playing slugs no matter what their color. what i find indecent and dishonorable is calling them anything but what they are and giving special treatment. maybe if we just treated them better they wouldnt be dirty filthy dishonest promiscuous drug-using lazy victim-role-playing slugs. ya think we just need to love them more. and give them more. and let them take another pint of blood. yeah that ought to do it. steve im talking about dirty filthy dishonest promiscuous drug-using lazy victim-role-playing slugs no matter what their color. me too. jam .

From : beekeep

and has a marriage that would rival the best for longevity and faithfulness. his kids grew up in the american dream joined the military got educations etc. he has my utmost respect for his work ethic his moral standards and his accomplishments in life. and yet when my grandmother died he felt it was necessary to come to me in person before the memorial service and ask permission to attend the service. racism isnt words spoken to this man he clearly knows he is better than that. racism is the fact that the society in that part of the nation demanded he get permission to attend a white womans funeral even though she was a friend and business associate. so while you prattle on about what imus said being so terrible and which i am sure offended the lady scarlet knights its still not racism. long live the first amendment. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author here is the way i see this. on the one hand i saw no racial bias in imus comment. he says that stuff all the time. now i agree with those that say that the imus show wasnt particularly funny but it wasnt particularly offfensive either. he ridiculed people of all colors. how can you have a problem with that this whole racial bias thing is strange anyway. and sharpton hes an idiot. there are idiots of all colors........but im telling you..... sharpton is lead off hitter for the group. on the other hand.......imus chose his playground. he made millions of bucks doing what he did and he pandered to his advertisers. when you decide to play in that playground you gota play by someone elses rules and he simply got caught violating someone elses rules. thats really his problem. hate to see race be the issue that got him.......it could have been any one of hundreds and in the long run it isnt gonna help the whole race deal. did imus get screwed he sure did. but at least the man gotta chose his place to fight. racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. jam http//tinyurl.com/29ca8b its a hard life its a hard life its a very hard life its a hard life wherever you go and if we poison our children with hatred then a hard life is all they will know. nanci griffith . 222 333163 132162bdi2sjkd9@corp.super.com here is the way i see this. on the one hand i saw no racial bias in imus comment. he says that stuff all the time. now i agree with those that say that the imus show wasnt particularly funny but it wasnt particularly offfensive either. he ridiculed people of all colors. how can you have a problem with that this whole racial bias thing is strange anyway. and sharpton hes an idiot. there are idiots of all colors........but im telling you..... sharpton is lead off hitter for the group. on the other hand.......imus chose his playground. he made millions of bucks doing what he did and he pandered to his advertisers. when you decide to play in that playground you gota play by someone elses rules and he simply got caught violating someone elses rules. thats really his problem. hate to see race be the issue that got him.......it could have been any one of hundreds and in the long run it isnt gonna help the whole race deal. did imus get screwed he sure did. but at least the man gotta chose his place to fight. racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. bill i must respectfully disagree. the comments made my imus were offensive but racist the words imus used are quite common amonst blacks in in their daily language. listen to the lyrics of a rap song if you can and you will hear the same words and worse!. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. does that apply to comments made by blacks about whites as well or ala shartop and jackson do you too have a double standard mike jam http//tinyurl.com/29ca8b its a hard life its a hard life its a very hard life its a hard life wherever you go and if we poison our children with hatred then a hard life is all they will know. nanci griffith .

From : bill dunkenfield

max dodge wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. and yet by limiting those comments we limit what makes us the society we are... the first amendment. so what should we do about racial slurs ignore them. if you are so goddamned hurt by a racial comment that you cannot see yourself as better than the word then you need to work on being better. imus got fucked by the execs who have no balls. the only reason racism is an issue anymore is the sharpton jackson coalition. if they put half as much effort into raising money for non whites yeah more than just blacks but all colors in the rainbow coalition to get an education the minorities they speak for would be able to speak for themselves. so where do we draw the line between racism and freedom of speech i say we tolerate both and racism will die out and the first amendment will thrive. if you get called names and cannot feel that you are better than what those names denote see a fucking psychiatrist or shoot yourself. ive had first hand experience with racism and its not some jackass on the radio calling people names. racism is the black man who mowed and still does in his 70s my grandmothers lawn. he is very accomplished in life and has a marriage that would rival the best for longevity and faithfulness. his kids grew up in the american dream joined the military got educations etc. he has my utmost respect for his work ethic his moral standards and his accomplishments in life. and yet when my grandmother died he felt it was necessary to come to me in person before the memorial service and ask permission to attend the service. racism isnt words spoken to this man he clearly knows he is better than that. racism is the fact that the society in that part of the nation demanded he get permission to attend a white womans funeral even though she was a friend and business associate. so while you prattle on about what imus said being so terrible and which i am sure offended the lady scarlet knights its still not racism. long live the first amendment. -- max long live the first amendment. amen to that! however the first amendment is not absolute. lying under oath or to the police is a crime. inciting others to commit criminal acts will get you arrested. our society must respect the right of people to spew hate from the pulpit and in the press. we are not required to give them moral or financial support. jam .

From : bill dunkenfield

mike simmons wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. bill i must respectfully disagree. the comments made my imus were offensive but racist the words imus used are quite common amonst blacks in in their daily language. listen to the lyrics of a rap song if you can and you will hear the same words and worse!. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. does that apply to comments made by blacks about whites as well or ala shartop and jackson do you too have a double standard mike you bet mike it does apply to all. i dont know that sharpton or jackson said anything hateful or racially intolerant. i think they were speaking against such things. jam .

From : miles

mike simmons wrote mike simmons wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. bill i must respectfully disagree. the comments made my imus were offensive but racist the words imus used are quite common amonst blacks in in their daily language. listen to the lyrics of a rap song if you can and you will hear the same words and worse!. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. does that apply to comments made by blacks about whites as well or ala shartop and jackson do you too have a double standard mike you bet mike it does apply to all. i dont know that sharpton or jackson said anything hateful or racially intolerant. i think they were speaking against such things. jam so i guess when the reverend jackson called nyc hymietown that was ok mike nope. jam .

From : mike simmons

on sat 14 apr 2007 022925 gmt ron ron@nospamng.ca wrote roy roy@home.net wrote in if you have a warranty why wouldnt your first stop be at the dealer because i want to be an informed person how do i know they say there is nothing so i run out of warranty by the time something fails. i only trust service writers as far as a desk is deep... ron why would they tell you its nothing if theres something wrong they get paid for fixing it. . 222 333190 13231spo7b87i12@corp.super.com mike simmons wrote so i guess when the reverend jackson called nyc hymietown that was ok sharpton has made similar references to jews greeks called them homos as well as used the racial terms he so blasts if a white person says them. yes a bit of duplicity on the rev. als part id say. but what would you expect from the race hustlin revs! mike .

From : craig c

on apr 14 1225 pm bob m ram1...@vzavenue.net wrote i invite you to watch the local here in the dallas/ft. worth area for just 1 night. 9 out of 10 times they show a suspect that got caught on video tape commiting a crime they are black. used to be years ago that the casters would put out a description of a suspect in a crime. example mid 20s black male 6 foot 150lbs. not anymore. either they are too worried about the so called black community playing the race card or they know that most viewers already know the suspect is black. just watch the surveillence tapes just one night on the local . there is a huge difference between a black person and a nigger. i have several black friends. its the niggers i have a problem with. if that term hurts your feelings than so be it. i refuse to use the term african american. not a damned one of them was born in africa. however if they want to keep killing each other than so be it. as i said earlier its just a form of crime prevention. from one dfw resident to another i say amen. i moved to oak cliff from mckinney a few months back. quite a culture shock as you can imagine. oak cliff is largely black and mexican but so is every other town in texas. my neighbors a black couple with kids in college are extremely nice folks. id do anything for them. but not too far down the road is a gang of thugs. some of them are white some are black. but they are all niggers. i hope for sake of humanity that they break into my house. i have a nice surprise waiting for them. now when i lived mckinney i had white and black neighbors. liked them all id do anything for them. not too far down the road there were bubba-rednecks not to be confused with country folk. i hoped for the sake of humanity that they would break into my house. came close once had a bubba stand in front of my house yelling obscenities at me because he didnt like the philadelphia eagles sticker on my car. he assured me hed be back to take care of it. but like most cowardly rednecks he was all talk. the crux of this issue is simple stupidity. stupidity infects all colors. stupid people only understand one language. the one i speak is .45 caliber. craig c. .

From : bill dunkenfield

craig c. wrote on apr 14 1225 pm bob m ram1...@vzavenue.net wrote i invite you to watch the local here in the dallas/ft. worth area for just 1 night. 9 out of 10 times they show a suspect that got caught on video tape commiting a crime they are black. used to be years ago that the casters would put out a description of a suspect in a crime. example mid 20s black male 6 foot 150lbs. not anymore. either they are too worried about the so called black community playing the race card or they know that most viewers already know the suspect is black. just watch the surveillence tapes just one night on the local . there is a huge difference between a black person and a nigger. i have several black friends. its the niggers i have a problem with. if that term hurts your feelings than so be it. i refuse to use the term african american. not a damned one of them was born in africa. however if they want to keep killing each other than so be it. as i said earlier its just a form of crime prevention. from one dfw resident to another i say amen. i moved to oak cliff from mckinney a few months back. quite a culture shock as you can imagine. oak cliff is largely black and mexican but so is every other town in texas. my neighbors a black couple with kids in college are extremely nice folks. id do anything for them. but not too far down the road is a gang of thugs. some of them are white some are black. but they are all niggers. i hope for sake of humanity that they break into my house. i have a nice surprise waiting for them. now when i lived mckinney i had white and black neighbors. liked them all id do anything for them. not too far down the road there were bubba-rednecks not to be confused with country folk. i hoped for the sake of humanity that they would break into my house. came close once had a bubba stand in front of my house yelling obscenities at me because he didnt like the philadelphia eagles sticker on my car. he assured me hed be back to take care of it. but like most cowardly rednecks he was all talk. the crux of this issue is simple stupidity. stupidity infects all colors. stupid people only understand one language. the one i speak is .45 caliber. craig c. i can agree with everything but the 45. the us constitution protects stupid people too. jam .

From : miles

bill dunkenfield wrote miles wrote mike simmons wrote so i guess when the reverend jackson called nyc hymietown that was ok sharpton has made similar references to jews greeks called them homos as well as used the racial terms he so blasts if a white person says them. what makes you think im defending sharpton never said you were. i was adding further comment to mikes comments. why are you replying to me anyways .

From : craig c

on apr 15 209 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote gee and ya wonder where gun control laws come from. thats not a good solution. the stupids of the world will always find a way to get their hands on guns and use them against law abiding citizens. the solution is to let the law abiding citizens arm themselves. it prevents crime and there are volumes of data proving it. craig c. .

From : steve b

xclimation wrote of course there is severe punishment for possesion under the influence. do you think a 21 year old thinks of this do me a favor and study possible scenarios if at least 1/4 of 50 people had a gun. first off a percentage will panic and unload anywhere. another percentage will unload on anything that moves. a trained police officer at a range of 10 feet with a handgun in a firefight will hit the intended target an average of 2-3 times per 10 shots. dont believe me ask a police officer or someone who knows what they are talking about. i am talking a trained police officer who has experience extensive training and practice and who has to requalify every year. i am also considering the gun man not wearing body armour because that changes things as well. the problem is people either watch too much tv or only shoot in a range under ideal conditions and do not understand just how inaccurate a hand gun really is. i am not advocating taking everyones guns away. i just think the whole thought process of advocating everyone to carry a firearm is whether others are actually hitting anything or not the gunman surely is ducking a bit being more cautious in what hes doing. bullets dont need to be hitting someone in order to have effect. most bullets in combat situations do not hit their marks. doesnt mean your head isnt down in the dirt any less! ridiculous. also something that is never talked about is the mental affect of carrying a firearm. im talking about the superiority complex some get when carrying a firearm. this is something that is also studied and i encourage others to do their own research for themselves on it. i call it the deputy dawg syndrome. if the gunman lines up everyone as you say then how does the deputy dawg syndrome fare when *everyone else* has a gun i should think the air of superiority diminishes along with the sense of invulnerability. at least this gives extra time for a trained individual to respond as well as give the gunman a chance to think twice. ill take my chances with this over bullets flying wildly everyone not giving a chance for the situation to be controlled. as i said im not for banning all firearms but if you want to ask the brits or aussies as you state; you will notice that these mass shootings do not happen as near as much as here in the united states. do you think that no one in great britian or australia has a firearm maybe i recommend famialiarizing yourself with the gun laws of these countries. a private citizen can own a firearm in these countries. the us is definitely a more violent nation than any european nation. nonetheless its not like firearms were unavailable to the masses before the last 10-20 years. the us population has always had easy access to guns and until recently never had these sorts of incident occurring. the wild west was no where near as violent as our inner cities and now apparently our schools and colleges. something else is at work in the us beyond mere access to weaponry. ill maintain it is social isolation stemming from our car culture that indirectly creates social isolation. all this is enhanced by the breakdown of american families. no uncle john or grandma brown for therapy when troubles occur. even mom and dad assuming they are even together are busy earning cash for the bimmer and merc and 5000 sq ft home and summer house in maine. and on and on it goes. were a nation of social isolationists and when lifes challenges occur individuals are on their own without ever learning what disciplined behavior and solution of problems entails. your mind control argument is over reaching dont you think i never said anything about mind control. with all due respect this sounds like the black helicopter conspiracy theorists that are in militias. im talking about researching the root cause of what makes one malfunction like this. whether you like it or not science will find a way to recognize these individuals before something like this happens. science may be able to do so but i wonder if we have the political will to act upon what science tells us when personal rights collide with scientifically derived indicators of behavior i suspect science will lose big time. smh .

From : bill dunkenfield

steve b wrote on sat 14 apr 2007 132644 gmt bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. maybe your mind is at the core of the problem. or your lack of a fucking mind. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. i am simply amazed at that trash of bullshit that you just spewed out your ass. thank you! you have done more than i could ever do to expose your ignorance. how is life out on the fringes actually not too bad. thank you for asking jam. jam i like living on the fringe. i much prefer small towns and rural america to the big cities. on the fringe you can give out ass whoopings when they are needed. when someone gets uppity or out of hand a .44 mag to the engine block usually slows them down for a while. or just a lit cigarette through an open car window. people on the fringe have a way of dealing with problems that take city people a lot longer to handle. steve i was not referring to small towns and rural america. i was referring to the dark and evil side of our world where racial religious and political intolerance live. jam .

From : steve b

steve b wrote on sat 14 apr 2007 132644 gmt bill dunkenfield billdunkenfield@nospam.net wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote racial intolerance is at the core of the problem. maybe your mind is at the core of the problem. or your lack of a fucking mind. anyone that continues to endorse it promote it and make hateful racial comments must be put in their place. that place is on the fringes of a decent and honorable society. i am simply amazed at that trash of bullshit that you just spewed out your ass. thank you! you have done more than i could ever do to expose your ignorance. how is life out on the fringes actually not too bad. thank you for asking jam. jam i like living on the fringe. i much prefer small towns and rural america to the big cities. on the fringe you can give out ass whoopings when they are needed. when someone gets uppity or out of hand a .44 mag to the engine block usually slows them down for a while. or just a lit cigarette through an open car window. people on the fringe have a way of dealing with problems that take city people a lot longer to handle. steve i was not referring to small towns and rural america. i was referring to the dark and evil side of our world where racial religious and political intolerance live. jam well then you got your head up your ass pollyanna. wake up and smell the coffee. we have racial religious and political intolerance because normal people rebel against having pc shoved down their throats. dark and evil side boy are you a dreamer. its just human nature. worker bees not liking the slugs. steve .

From : tbone

on apr 15 209 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote gee and ya wonder where gun control laws come from. thats not a good solution. the stupids of the world will always find a way to get their hands on guns and use them against law abiding citizens. the solution is to let the law abiding citizens arm themselves. it prevents crime and there are volumes of data proving it. most of the time that type of data is biased by the interests of the ones compiling it. if this were true then the crime rate here in nc should be about zero as it is easy to get guns here but that is simply no the truth. the crime rate in some of the areas near where i live is much higher than the areas where i lived in nj a state where is damn difficult to get a gun. actually while minor crimes are decreased major crimes increase because a thief will be more desperate and will also be carrying a gun. while i am not in favor of taking peoples guns away i am fully in favor of making strict gun control laws that make the gun owners responsible for their weapons. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : napalmheart

im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria thank you. what did you think of the meat of the story is this going to affect my final grade steve you fail. from www.wordorigins.org nigger dave wilton monday december 25 2006 this most offensive of words in american speech dates to the late 16th century although the modern spelling doesnt appear until some two centuries later. the modern word nigger is a variant of an older term neger pronounced with a long /ee/ sound which is still in use in caribbean dialect. it comes from the french ngre in use to mean a black person since at least 1516 and ultimately from the latin niger meaning black. the word negro comes from the same latin root although the route negro took into english was via spanish not french. the word in its neger form first appears in thomas hackets 1568 translation of a. thevets new found worlde also ye neigers eat these lezards so do the indians of america. the pronunciation with the shorter /i/ sound appears a bit later in edward hellowess 1574 translation of guevaras familiar epistles the massgets bordering upon the indians and the nigers of aethiop bearing witnes. the original spanish is los negros en ethiopia. the modern gg spelling doesnt appear until the late-18th century. from frank moores 1775 songs and ballads of the american revolution the rebel clowns oh! what a sight! too awkward was their figure. twas yonder stood a pious wight and here and there a nigger. nigger is highly offensive especially when used by whites. along with cunt it is perhaps one of the two most offensive words in modern english. this was not always the case however. the word was originally neutral and only began to acquire an offensive cast in the mid-18th century. among african americans the word has a history of being used to refer to a person regardless of skin color. george f. ruxtons 1848 life in the far west uses the word to refer to a white person what does the niggur say other examples of blacks using the term in reference to whites can be found although more commonly it is used to refer to a close black friend as in this example from j.a. harrisons 1884 negro english to tun er nigger right loose to give a man free play. in recent years this sense has been used in a politically motivated attempt to reclaim the word by african americans and make it less offensive. while somewhat successful in this regard the term is still considered highly offensive when used by whites and this reclamation itself is controversial. many consider the term offensive regardless of the race of the utterer. nigger is etymologically unrelated to the word niggard. source oxford english dictionary new edition .

From : bill dunkenfield

beekeep wrote on tue 17 apr 2007 120530 -0500 xclimation privacy@privacy.com wrote to add further to this do you think we would have world peace if we gave every country a nuclear weapon its kept us from going into pakastan and gettin bin laden. beekeep yes i remember the speech by gwb that claimed we would not make a distinction between the terrorist and those who harbor them.* *except for nations that can defend themselves. jam .

From : napalmheart

im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria thank you. what did you think of the meat of the story is this going to affect my final grade steve you fail. from www.wordorigins.org nigger dave wilton monday december 25 2006 this most offensive of words in american speech dates to the late 16th century although the modern spelling doesnt appear until some two centuries later. the modern word nigger is a variant of an older term neger pronounced with a long /ee/ sound which is still in use in caribbean dialect. it comes from the french ngre in use to mean a black person since at least 1516 and ultimately from the latin niger meaning black. the word negro comes from the same latin root although the route negro took into english was via spanish not french. the word in its neger form first appears in thomas hackets 1568 translation of a. thevets new found worlde also ye neigers eat these lezards so do the indians of america. the pronunciation with the shorter /i/ sound appears a bit later in edward hellowess 1574 translation of guevaras familiar epistles the massgets bordering upon the indians and the nigers of aethiop bearing witnes. the original spanish is los negros en ethiopia. the modern gg spelling doesnt appear until the late-18th century. from frank moores 1775 songs and ballads of the american revolution the rebel clowns oh! what a sight! too awkward was their figure. twas yonder stood a pious wight and here and there a nigger. nigger is highly offensive especially when used by whites. along with cunt it is perhaps one of the two most offensive words in modern english. this was not always the case however. the word was originally neutral and only began to acquire an offensive cast in the mid-18th century. among african americans the word has a history of being used to refer to a person regardless of skin color. george f. ruxtons 1848 life in the far west uses the word to refer to a white person what does the niggur say other examples of blacks using the term in reference to whites can be found although more commonly it is used to refer to a close black friend as in this example from j.a. harrisons 1884 negro english to tun er nigger right loose to give a man free play. in recent years this sense has been used in a politically motivated attempt to reclaim the word by african americans and make it less offensive. while somewhat successful in this regard the term is still considered highly offensive when used by whites and this reclamation itself is controversial. many consider the term offensive regardless of the race of the utterer. nigger is etymologically unrelated to the word niggard. source oxford english dictionary new edition thank you. a story i read once linked it to the posters advertising some of the early slaves sold in the us and the americans inability to properly pronounce the word. steve plenty of urban legends out there about word origins and everything else! very gracious reply steve. best wishes ken youre welcome. i actually saw it on tv so it must be true right the show was about new orleans and they did a section on paper ads for the sale of newly arrived nigers. steve really who knows for sure. nobody left alive from back then to say. i always thought that it was just a corruption of the spanish word negro negra and nigra being intermediary forms. ken .

From : steve b

im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria thank you. what did you think of the meat of the story is this going to affect my final grade steve you fail. from www.wordorigins.org nigger dave wilton monday december 25 2006 this most offensive of words in american speech dates to the late 16th century although the modern spelling doesnt appear until some two centuries later. the modern word nigger is a variant of an older term neger pronounced with a long /ee/ sound which is still in use in caribbean dialect. it comes from the french ngre in use to mean a black person since at least 1516 and ultimately from the latin niger meaning black. the word negro comes from the same latin root although the route negro took into english was via spanish not french. the word in its neger form first appears in thomas hackets 1568 translation of a. thevets new found worlde also ye neigers eat these lezards so do the indians of america. the pronunciation with the shorter /i/ sound appears a bit later in edward hellowess 1574 translation of guevaras familiar epistles the massgets bordering upon the indians and the nigers of aethiop bearing witnes. the original spanish is los negros en ethiopia. the modern gg spelling doesnt appear until the late-18th century. from frank moores 1775 songs and ballads of the american revolution the rebel clowns oh! what a sight! too awkward was their figure. twas yonder stood a pious wight and here and there a nigger. nigger is highly offensive especially when used by whites. along with cunt it is perhaps one of the two most offensive words in modern english. this was not always the case however. the word was originally neutral and only began to acquire an offensive cast in the mid-18th century. among african americans the word has a history of being used to refer to a person regardless of skin color. george f. ruxtons 1848 life in the far west uses the word to refer to a white person what does the niggur say other examples of blacks using the term in reference to whites can be found although more commonly it is used to refer to a close black friend as in this example from j.a. harrisons 1884 negro english to tun er nigger right loose to give a man free play. in recent years this sense has been used in a politically motivated attempt to reclaim the word by african americans and make it less offensive. while somewhat successful in this regard the term is still considered highly offensive when used by whites and this reclamation itself is controversial. many consider the term offensive regardless of the race of the utterer. nigger is etymologically unrelated to the word niggard. source oxford english dictionary new edition thank you. a story i read once linked it to the posters advertising some of the early slaves sold in the us and the americans inability to properly pronounce the word. steve .

From : napalmheart

im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria thank you. what did you think of the meat of the story is this going to affect my final grade steve you fail. from www.wordorigins.org nigger dave wilton monday december 25 2006 this most offensive of words in american speech dates to the late 16th century although the modern spelling doesnt appear until some two centuries later. the modern word nigger is a variant of an older term neger pronounced with a long /ee/ sound which is still in use in caribbean dialect. it comes from the french ngre in use to mean a black person since at least 1516 and ultimately from the latin niger meaning black. the word negro comes from the same latin root although the route negro took into english was via spanish not french. the word in its neger form first appears in thomas hackets 1568 translation of a. thevets new found worlde also ye neigers eat these lezards so do the indians of america. the pronunciation with the shorter /i/ sound appears a bit later in edward hellowess 1574 translation of guevaras familiar epistles the massgets bordering upon the indians and the nigers of aethiop bearing witnes. the original spanish is los negros en ethiopia. the modern gg spelling doesnt appear until the late-18th century. from frank moores 1775 songs and ballads of the american revolution the rebel clowns oh! what a sight! too awkward was their figure. twas yonder stood a pious wight and here and there a nigger. nigger is highly offensive especially when used by whites. along with cunt it is perhaps one of the two most offensive words in modern english. this was not always the case however. the word was originally neutral and only began to acquire an offensive cast in the mid-18th century. among african americans the word has a history of being used to refer to a person regardless of skin color. george f. ruxtons 1848 life in the far west uses the word to refer to a white person what does the niggur say other examples of blacks using the term in reference to whites can be found although more commonly it is used to refer to a close black friend as in this example from j.a. harrisons 1884 negro english to tun er nigger right loose to give a man free play. in recent years this sense has been used in a politically motivated attempt to reclaim the word by african americans and make it less offensive. while somewhat successful in this regard the term is still considered highly offensive when used by whites and this reclamation itself is controversial. many consider the term offensive regardless of the race of the utterer. nigger is etymologically unrelated to the word niggard. source oxford english dictionary new edition thank you. a story i read once linked it to the posters advertising some of the early slaves sold in the us and the americans inability to properly pronounce the word. steve plenty of urban legends out there about word origins and everything else! very gracious reply steve. best wishes ken .

From : steve b

im really amazed we havent been beaten over the head yet by this one nigger. when slavery first started in the us tribes in the niger area of africa would raid each others villages and tribe lands and kidnap the residents. then they would sell their captives to the evil white men who were waiting in their ships. it was all very orchestrated and the white men didnt even have to go capture the men. other blacks did it for them. in the papers of the day when a sale was going to be held of freshly new arrived nigers the american public did not know how to pronounce niger. it is now of course nigeria but at that time it was more of a region than a country. niger and nigeria are two distinct countries. https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ng.html niger https//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ni.html nigeria thank you. what did you think of the meat of the story is this going to affect my final grade steve you fail. from www.wordorigins.org nigger dave wilton monday december 25 2006 this most offensive of words in american speech dates to the late 16th century although the modern spelling doesnt appear until some two centuries later. the modern word nigger is a variant of an older term neger pronounced with a long /ee/ sound which is still in use in caribbean dialect. it comes from the french ngre in use to mean a black person since at least 1516 and ultimately from the latin niger meaning black. the word negro comes from the same latin root although the route negro took into english was via spanish not french. the word in its neger form first appears in thomas hackets 1568 translation of a. thevets new found worlde also ye neigers eat these lezards so do the indians of america. the pronunciation with the shorter /i/ sound appears a bit later in edward hellowess 1574 translation of guevaras familiar epistles the massgets bordering upon the indians and the nigers of aethiop bearing witnes. the original spanish is los negros en ethiopia. the modern gg spelling doesnt appear until the late-18th century. from frank moores 1775 songs and ballads of the american revolution the rebel clowns oh! what a sight! too awkward was their figure. twas yonder stood a pious wight and here and there a nigger. nigger is highly offensive especially when used by whites. along with cunt it is perhaps one of the two most offensive words in modern english. this was not always the case however. the word was originally neutral and only began to acquire an offensive cast in the mid-18th century. among african americans the word has a history of being used to refer to a person regardless of skin color. george f. ruxtons 1848 life in the far west uses the word to refer to a white person what does the niggur say other examples of blacks using the term in reference to whites can be found although more commonly it is used to refer to a close black friend as in this example from j.a. harrisons 1884 negro english to tun er nigger right loose to give a man free play. in recent years this sense has been used in a politically motivated attempt to reclaim the word by african americans and make it less offensive. while somewhat successful in this regard the term is still considered highly offensive when used by whites and this reclamation itself is controversial. many consider the term offensive regardless of the race of the utterer. nigger is etymologically unrelated to the word niggard. source oxford english dictionary new edition thank you. a story i read once linked it to the posters advertising some of the early slaves sold in the us and the americans inability to properly pronounce the word. steve plenty of urban legends out there about word origins and everything else! very gracious reply steve. best wishes ken youre welcome. i actually saw it on tv so it must be true right the show was about new orleans and they did a section on paper ads for the sale of newly arrived nigers. steve .