OT: Blow Out

From : azwiley1

Q: wow what a way to top off an otherwise uneventful day at work. i-10 75mph left lane booooooom! left front blows the tread right the fuck off! no warning no indication of a problem checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. i am ok truck has some very minor cosmetic damage i.e. busted mirror. .

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From : snoman

on wed 16 may 2007 091443 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. how do you know what i do or dont know easy to figure out by some of the ripe you post.... heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. so if the tire calls for 32 pounds youd increase it 10% to 351/2 pounds cold. now that tire will increase how many degrees given the heat build up and the heat of the pavement use a m/t car so load wont factor. while road heat is a factor here the main part of the equation is the heat the tire generates itself from flexing and this together with road heat determine when a tire may fail. when it is cool outside a tire can withstand a greater overload before it fails because it can disapate more internal heat into slipstream. a tire flexs as it rolls down the road and this flexing generates heat. load capacity of a tires is determined by its construction. size and pressure and you increase tires size or pressure as load increases. as you increase the ply rating of a tire you either increase the plys and or increase the strength of the ply which adds to more heat being generated as tire flexes a 10 play rated tires makes more internal heat than a 4 ply rated tire at 32 psi because thicker stronger plies generate more heat flexing increasing tire pressure recues flexing under load and heat from flexing. radial tires do run cooler and use less power than bias ply tires but they still generate some heat. a classic mistake is some with say 10 ply rated 245/16 tires rated at a little over 3000 lbs at 80 psi run them at 30 to40 psi or a bit more to improve ride but this also reduces load capacity because a 245/16 10 ply is only rated to carry a bit over 1500 lbs at 40 psi. when you overload a tire it may take days weeks or even months before it fails depends on load and conditions as a 3000 lb rated tires does no fail right away with 3500 lbs or more on it if it is at max rated pressure and if speed are below 40 mph or so this amount a load and more will not really hurt the tire.plus you can get away with low tire pressure in town/urban driving for months on end because tire never heats up as much as on highway. if we recall the ford exploer farce they tried to pin the blame of firestone but the real cause was the lower pressures that ford speced for tires for ride concerns which weaken the tires over a period of time up to several years untill they are started to mature in failure from this cumlative abuse. btw i have a equipment trailer that uses 27 inch tall 14.5 inch rimmed 14 ply tires load range g at 120 psi they can safely handle over 3000lbs a tire at 120 psi and are rated to carry a lot more at lower speeds and/or shorter distances. i actually prefer bias ply tires on equipment trailers because though they consume more power and tend to run warmer and not wear as long. they have a very strong body and are not easily damaged by rocks or curbs even on sidewalls. in nearly 40 years of driving your point knownledge and experiance that i did not get from a sears catlog or newgroups like you appeared to have tried too. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : snoman

on wed 16 may 2007 143051 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 125434 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven great answer. really insightful. real troll like responce here... .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. yes and not knowing anything is an area that you are indeed an expert on. you must be really threatened by the concept that someone can know a lot especailly since you know so little you do not understand how someone could indeed be so well schooled it is called college and experiance eduction and i did r&d work for many years. btw if you ever use a gps if you are smart enough to use one i worked on the tail end of the prototype test project for it nearly 30 years ago and a could write you a book about how it actually works even today from memory. the theory is actually pretty simple in concept if you understand the basic principles envolved but is was a sob to implement in hardware for many years. unlike you i come here to spread knowledge without strings or ego concerns because you cannot take it with you. this has got to be a real conflict for a insecure person like yourself. you should embrace knowledge not reject it just because you do not like the source of it. heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. in nearly 40 years of driving i have never had a tire on my cars come apart but i have had a few bias ply trailer tires years ago loose their rubber on a hot day at high speed. nice thing about a bias ply tire though is usually when you loose the rubber the tire still holds air so you can stop because the side walls plys are just as strong as tread unlike radial which tends to completely self destruct when there is a major seperation because sidewalls are weak and thin. ----------------- thesnoman.com ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : azwiley1

on may 16 526 am roy r...@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation lets see the tire called for 65 psi cold. i inflated them to 64.5 on all four tires. yup they were mis/under infalted. .

From : azwiley1

on may 16 554 am snoman a...@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy r...@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. in nearly 40 years of driving i have never had a tire on my cars come apart but i have had a few bias ply trailer tires years ago loose their rubber on a hot day at high speed. nice thing about a bias ply tire though is usually when you loose the rubber the tire still holds air so you can stop because the side walls plys are just as strong as tread unlike radial which tends to completely self destruct when there is a major seperation because sidewalls are weak and thin. ----------------- thesnoman.com ok smart ass. 65 psi cold tire pressure sitting at 64.5 when i inflated them that morning. no load on the the truck other then the truck it self. they were a decent at tire. everything was where and how it should have been. you know go fuck yourself and take your preaching with you. .

From : craig c

azwiley1 wrote 65 psi cold tire pressure sitting at 64.5 when i inflated them that morning. no load on the the truck other then the truck it self. they were a decent at tire. everything was where and how it should have been. you know go fuck yourself and take your preaching with you. oh great! you probably got berl all hot and bothered with this one. hes probably spankin off right now to your post. - craig c. .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 091443 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. how do you know what i do or dont know easy to figure out by some of the ripe you post.... you should be the last person to talk about posting i think you ment trip. snip of more mind numbing stuff iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 091443 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. how do you know what i do or dont know easy to figure out by some of the ripe you post.... you should be the last person to talk about posting i think you ment trip. damn now ya have me doing it should be tripe .

From : chris thompson

on tue 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 wrote wow what a way to top off an otherwise uneventful day at work. i-10 75mph left lane booooooom! left front blows the tread right the fuck off! no warning no indication of a problem checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. i am ok truck has some very minor cosmetic damage i.e. busted mirror. wow glad your ok.... .

From : azwiley1

on may 15 913 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote on tue 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 wrote wow what a way to top off an otherwise uneventful day at work. i-10 75mph left lane booooooom! left front blows the tread right the fuck off! no warning no indication of a problem checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. i am ok truck has some very minor cosmetic damage i.e. busted mirror. wow glad your ok.... i am friend thanks for your concern. tom l. i damn sure could have used your big bad ctd as the lil bow tie was hurtin pretty bad today! .

From : snoman

on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring a impact with a object on road tires fail like this from overload/oheating pressure vs load and usage ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : roy

on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure ..many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation .

From : snoman

on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. in nearly 40 years of driving i have never had a tire on my cars come apart but i have had a few bias ply trailer tires years ago loose their rubber on a hot day at high speed. nice thing about a bias ply tire though is usually when you loose the rubber the tire still holds air so you can stop because the side walls plys are just as strong as tread unlike radial which tends to completely self destruct when there is a major seperation because sidewalls are weak and thin. ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : azwiley1

unlike you i come here to spread knowledge without strings or ego concerns because you cannot take it with you. this has got to be a real conflict for a insecure person like yourself. you should embrace knowledge not reject it just because you do not like the source of it. really you come here to spread knowledge care to explain to me where i ever asked you to preach to me about tires and the possible causes of a blow out clue for you i never did. i posted this to share an experience no more no less. you took it upon yourself just like you did when i asked a question about cats in the chevy group to open mouth and spew a lot of shit. these are two perfect examples of times when your dribble is not needed nor wanted but you just can not help yourself! why dont crawl back under your rock please. if you want to spread knowledge do so when it is asked for something you never do at least in here. .

From : tom lawrence

in hardware for many years. unlike you i come here to spread knowledge without strings or ego concerns because you cannot take it with you. ive stayed away from your last few posts - mainly because theyve been correct and im in agreement with you on the tire sidewall flex/heat build-up thing - also in agreement about running bias-ply tires instead of radials on trailers and equipment. however you have to realize youve been involved in several instances here of giving out just plain wrong information at times. and more than just giving wrong info. - but refusing to recognize that you were wrong accept it admit it and move on. there was the whole cat-con on diesels thing... your claim still unproven by the way that the dodge v10 can retard its ignition timing based on octane rating of the fuel... the whole dodge uses a gm 8.25 r&p in their 8 ifs front axle... and several others. given that and your staunch refusal to accept the wealth of facts and learned opinions to the contrary you cant but expect to have developed a reputation of distrust in this group and thats the backlash that you experience now whenever you offer an opinion. i have no doubt that you have amassed a good deal of knowledge. you could be the smartest most educated person in the world... but with the constant holier-than-thou attitude dont be surprised if no one wants to hear what you have to say. please - dont tell me how immature im being or how im some kind of troll. put those defense mechanisms away for a minute and really think about whats been said. .

From : tom lawrence

i have to ask snoman since you are the expert about all this what exactly should i inflate the tires on my motorcycle too. here is the details you should need. 500 pound bike two wheels daily rider in ambient air temps ranging from 50 to 115 depending on the time of year road temps as high as 150+ i am guessing here. what color helmet .

From : snoman

on wed 16 may 2007 145259 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. you missed one point here. i said increase it about 10% over suggested pressure for current load for high speed operation up to the max recommanded cold tire pressure. it is generally considered that if you have to run max pressure to carry rated load on tire in use before the 10% pressure increase that high speed operations should be avoded. this is why sometimes you see cheap car haulers and travel trailers with 3500lb axles and basically car tires on them eat tires because there is no reserve capacity in them as they are being used. for good safe high speed operation you really want to be at least 10 to 15 percent or more below tires rated capacity for ply and psi being used ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : azwiley1

it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. example nascar underinflates tires during a pit stop because they know that it will increase as they get hot. by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 i wonder just what the ap in the tires would have been at the time of the blow out had i followed this logic never mind the fact that it was over 100 out side and the road was prob close to 150. i would be willing to bet that i would not have been as lucky as i was had i followed your recommendations i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. thanks fuck nuts. .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 145259 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. you missed one point here. no your not answering the question i asked if a tire manufactrer said 32psi cold mt. you added 10% to it for a total of 35+1/2 pounds. now we drive this puppy and the psi climbs to 40+psi. does that increase of over 8 psi have a detremental effect on the tire and suspension hopefully that is clear. .

From : beryl

roy wrote on wed 16 may 2007 091443 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and howit is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. how do you know what i do or dont know easy to figure out by some of the ripe you post.... you should be the last person to talk about posting i think you ment trip. snip of more mind numbing stuff youre overwhelmed skippy. bad troll attempt here wait for another time. -- the reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - george bernard shaw .

From : roy

how do you know what i do or dont know easy to figure out by some of the ripe you post.... you should be the last person to talk about posting i think you ment trip. snip of more mind numbing stuff youre overwhelmed skippy. bad troll attempt here wait for another time. well well the crotch cannibal. what did the idiot cross his legs and disturb you you do know all about trolling dont ya. looks like its time to play proctologist. .

From : beryl

punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 are you confusing the tire makers max pressure limit printed on the tire sidewall with the vehicle makers recommended pressure for normal driving yes obviously. i wonder just what the ap in the tires would have been at the time of the blow out had i followed this logic never mind the fact that it was over 100 out side and the road was prob close to 150. i would be willing to bet that i would not have been as lucky as i was had i followed your recommendations increase pressure over the vehicle makers normal recommendation idiot. not the max limit set by the tire manufacturer. i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. thanks fuck nuts. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : Annonymous

yeah thats it moron. what an asshat. i just like the fame of seeing my writing appear on the internet in this ng. that makes me feel complete. man you are an incredible moron. tisk tisk does name calling make you feel more grown up it must. some may laugh with you but others are laughing at your immaturity well i served a purpose asshat. you finally spelled it correctly. just a warning thats all. no this is just the ramblings of a very insecure troll. well you are right when you wrote this as in referring to your statement. you are indeed a very insecure troll well ok actually a very insecure moron but i wanted to affirm your comments. no other san see because you are the one that cam out like a child calling names not me. yes affirm that you are a child like troll that gets his fix with name calling and attacking things they do not understand wow. now that was hard to follow assclown. just curious did you graduate from american schools.......public education maybe again just wondering. most trolls like this do not even use real email ids either because they cannot stand for anything but bs. ----------------- thesnoman.com btw i will not answer anymore posts from you in this thread because honstly it makes me feel funny to even try to breifly converse with you on your immature level. my silence is not a blessing that you are right but rather a sign i am not going to waste my time with you anymore on this thread. ----------------- thesnoman.com okey dokey snotard. now click your heels together and maybe you can go home. . 222 335066 tcan43htppqgtt7enab8f8ugbgoe4csfn6@4ax.com on wed 16 may 2007 134714 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote roy wrote on wed 16 may 2007 091443 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. how do you know what i do or dont know easy to figure out by some of the ripe you post.... you should be the last person to talk about posting i think you ment trip. snip of more mind numbing stuff youre overwhelmed skippy. bad troll attempt here wait for another time. sheryl you are back. finished getting your nails done .

From : azwiley1

on may 16 1256 pm roy r...@fhome.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 145259 -0400 roy r...@fhome.net wrote iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. you missed one point here. no your not answering the question i asked if a tire manufactrer said 32psi cold mt. you added 10% to it for a total of 35+1/2 pounds. now we drive this puppy and the psi climbs to 40+psi. does that increase of over 8 psi have a detremental effect on the tire and suspension hopefully that is clear. as mud! bg .

From : azwiley1

on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 are you confusing the tire makers max pressure limit printed on the tire sidewall with the vehicle makers recommended pressure for normal driving yes obviously. i am not confusing shit assclown. you are making assumptions based off your ignorance and lack of information. the information from the vehicle recommendation is null and void when you are not running oe size tires. but you would know this if you were fucking smart enough to ask questions instead of trying to act like snotard. .

From : tbone

on may 16 526 am roy r...@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation lets see the tire called for 65 psi cold. i inflated them to 64.5 on all four tires. yup they were mis/under infalted. well then it is obviously your fault. driving with that severe under inflation just to get that marshmallow ride. you should be embarrassed for this one. - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. example nascar underinflates tires during a pit stop because they know that it will increase as they get hot. while true they do not do this just to avoid exceeding max cold pressure as im sure that you know so what exactly does this have to do with the thread in general. . by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 that is not what he said. i wonder just what the ap in the tires would have been at the time of the blow out had i followed this logic never mind the fact that it was over 100 out side and the road was prob close to 150. i would be willing to bet that i would not have been as lucky as i was had i followed your recommendations a blowout is a blowout so what real difference would 6.5 lbs have made i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. thanks fuck nuts. if you and roy for that matter actually bothered to read what he said you would have seen just as i did that he did say not to exceed maximum rated cold pressure. his actual statement was it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire and he was the one to put the limitation in parentheses so he didnt say to crank up the pressure to dangerous limits. if you are going to attack the guy at least wait until he gets it wrong or the only one looking like a fool is the one making the attack. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on wed 16 may 2007 145259 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. you missed one point here. no your not answering the question i asked if a tire manufactrer said 32psi cold mt. you added 10% to it for a total of 35+1/2 pounds. now we drive this puppy and the psi climbs to 40+psi. does that increase of over 8 psi have a detremental effect on the tire and suspension hopefully that is clear. what is not clear is your question. go back and read his initial post. he did clearly say to increase by 10% but not to go above the rated max cold pressure. your question is meaningless as he never said to exceed the tires rated cold pressure. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 145259 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. you missed one point here. no your not answering the question i asked if a tire manufactrer said 32psi cold mt. you added 10% to it for a total of 35+1/2 pounds. now we drive this puppy and the psi climbs to 40+psi. does that increase of over 8 psi have a detremental effect on the tire and suspension hopefully that is clear. what is not clear is your question. go back and read his initial post. he did clearly say to increase by 10% but not to go above the rated max cold pressure. your question is meaningless as he never said to exceed the tires rated cold pressure. no foolish at 32 pounds increasing it mt to where he wants to go is crazy. if your truck or car is mt do you run it up to the max .

From : azwiley1

on may 17 948 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote on may 16 526 am roy r...@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation lets see the tire called for 65 psi cold. i inflated them to 64.5 on all four tires. yup they were mis/under infalted. well then it is obviously your fault. driving with that severe under inflation just to get that marshmallow ride. you should be embarrassed for this one. - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yup it is all my fault! what the hell was i thinking!! i have to ask snoman since you are the expert about all this what exactly should i inflate the tires on my motorcycle too. here is the details you should need. 500 pound bike two wheels daily rider in ambient air temps ranging from 50 to 115 depending on the time of year road temps as high as 150+ i am guessing here. .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 145259 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. you missed one point here. no your not answering the question i asked if a tire manufactrer said 32psi cold mt. you added 10% to it for a total of 35+1/2 pounds. now we drive this puppy and the psi climbs to 40+psi. does that increase of over 8 psi have a detremental effect on the tire and suspension hopefully that is clear. what is not clear is your question. go back and read his initial post. he did clearly say to increase by 10% but not to go above the rated max cold pressure. your question is meaningless as he never said to exceed the tires rated cold pressure. no foolish at 32 pounds increasing it mt to where he wants to go is crazy. if your truck or car is mt do you run it up to the max ok my days of claiming to know everything are long over. we never believed ya.bfg what in the hell does mt mean cmon tom say it fast m/t! empty! .

From : azwiley1

on may 17 1116 am tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote i have to ask snoman since you are the expert about all this what exactly should i inflate the tires on my motorcycle too. here is the details you should need. 500 pound bike two wheels daily rider in ambient air temps ranging from 50 to 115 depending on the time of year road temps as high as 150+ i am guessing here. what color helmet black which might get replaced as a black helmet is damn hot in az during the summer. .

From : tbone

on may 17 948 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote on may 16 526 am roy r...@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation lets see the tire called for 65 psi cold. i inflated them to 64.5 on all four tires. yup they were mis/under infalted. well then it is obviously your fault. driving with that severe under inflation just to get that marshmallow ride. you should be embarrassed for this one. - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yup it is all my fault! what the hell was i thinking!! i have to ask snoman since you are the expert about all this what exactly should i inflate the tires on my motorcycle too. here is the details you should need. 500 pound bike two wheels daily rider in ambient air temps ranging from 50 to 115 depending on the time of year road temps as high as 150+ i am guessing here. damn isnt it obvious 250 lbs in each tire! ;-0 -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on wed 16 may 2007 145259 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote iirc you took a tire that was manufacture rating at 32 pounds cold. then you added another 31/2 pounds for a total of 35+1/2 poundscold. that tire will very quickly climb up to 40+pounds once you start to highway drive it more if it is 90 degrees or more. do you think that would have a detrimental effect on the tire and suspension remembering that the manufacture said 32 pounds cold. you missed one point here. no your not answering the question i asked if a tire manufactrer said 32psi cold mt. you added 10% to it for a total of 35+1/2 pounds. now we drive this puppy and the psi climbs to 40+psi. does that increase of over 8 psi have a detremental effect on the tire and suspension hopefully that is clear. what is not clear is your question. go back and read his initial post. he did clearly say to increase by 10% but not to go above the rated max cold pressure. your question is meaningless as he never said to exceed the tires rated cold pressure. no foolish at 32 pounds increasing it mt to where he wants to go is crazy. if your truck or car is mt do you run it up to the max ok my days of claiming to know everything are long over. what in the hell does mt mean -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : craig c

beryl wrote he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest ... oops ... you have a little bit of ... no up a little ... yeah right there youve got cum on your chin. craig c. .

From : beryl

punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. be man enough to admit it now punkin. apologize. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : azwiley1

on may 17 116 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. be man enough to admit it now punkin. apologize. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - first of all cock breath i would like for you to point out ot me where i asked anyone at all for advice. hell point out to me where the hell i asked a question. wait you wont be able to because i never did! in addition to this if you had a basic grasp of the english lanuage and knew how to read based off his bullshit he did state to over inflate the tires. second of all i did snip out to where i wanted too because i was only addressing one very specific portion of it and that is all i wanted to address. big fucking deal everyone does that. how about you be the man you are and get back to his cock. .

From : roy

punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. i want a man lets get to the heart of the problem .

From : Annonymous

on thu 17 may 2007 171115 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. i want a man lets get to the heart of the problem yep i think thats it. i just cant tell if it is snotard or larry that he has taken a shine to. .

From : azwiley1

on may 17 241 pm the...@whatever.net wrote on thu 17 may 2007 171115 -0400 roy r...@fhome.net wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. i want a man lets get to the heart of the problem yep i think thats it. i just cant tell if it is snotard or larry that he has taken a shine to.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - god i hope it aint me! .

From : beryl

punkinmash on may 17 116 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. be man enough to admit it now punkin. apologize. first of all cock breath i would like for you to point out ot me where i asked anyone at all for advice. hell point out to me where the hell i asked a question. wait you wont be able to because i never did! so why did you whine that he didnt answer it in addition to this if you had a basic grasp of the english lanuage and knew how to read based off his bullshit he did state to over inflate the tires. no tbone told you what he actually stated. he understood. i understood. whats your problem second of all i did snip out to where i wanted too because i was only addressing one very specific portion of it and that is all i wanted to address. big fucking deal everyone does that. liars do that. you misquoted him then accused him of giving dangerous information. everybody following this thread saw what you did. how about you be the man you are and get back to his cock. snomans cock is always in your thoughts punkin. thats sweet. pleasant dreams... -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

roy wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. i want a man lets get to the heart of the problem then why dont you start a new thread about that skippy -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

crag beryl wrote he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest ... oops ... you have a little bit of ... no up a little ... yeah right there youve got cum on your chin. youve got punkys spunk all over your face graywacke. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : roy

roy wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. i want a man lets get to the heart of the problem then why dont you start a new thread about that skippy what a thread about your penchant for men no need to. .

From : craig c

beryl wrote oops ... you have a little bit of ... no up a little ... yeah right there youve got cum on your chin. youve got punkys spunk all over your face graywacke. borrowing my insults makes you look desperate. *try* to come up with your own cock master. and ... graywacke puhleez. ive heard *all* geology jokes and their all equally lame. craig c. .

From : azwiley1

on may 17 1036 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinmash on may 17 116 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. be man enough to admit it now punkin. apologize. first of all cock breath i would like for you to point out ot me where i asked anyone at all for advice. hell point out to me where the hell i asked a question. wait you wont be able to because i never did! so why did you whine that he didnt answer

From : beryl

punkin on may 17 1036 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinmash on may 17 116 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. be man enough to admit it now punkin. apologize. first of all cock breath i would like for you to point out ot me where i asked anyone at all for advice. hell point out to me where the hell i asked a question. wait you wont be able to because i never did! so why did you whine that he didnt answer it what the fuck are you talking about it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it -punkin in addition to this if you had a basic grasp of the english lanuage and knew how to read based off his bullshit he did state to over inflate the tires. no tbone told you what he actually stated. he understood. i understood. whats your problem man you really need to learn how to read tbones comment was in reply to something roy said not me. but then again if you actually read i actually did read punkin. his reply was to you. that is not what he said. -tbone if you and roy for that matter actually bothered to read what he said you would have seen just as i did that he did say not to exceed maximum rated cold pressure. -tbone his actual statement was it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire -tbone and he was the one to put the limitation in parentheses so he didnt say to crank up the pressure to dangerous limits. -tbone if you are going to attack the guy at least wait until he gets it wrong or the only one looking like a fool is the one making the attack. -tbone all that was posted including that by your hero and lover you would grasp that. instead you are a slimpy low-life cum swollowing dick licking troll that has a fetish fasination for me. second of all i did snip out to where i wanted too because i was only addressing one very specific portion of it and that is all i wanted to address. big fucking deal everyone does that. liars do that. you misquoted him then accused him of giving dangerous information. everybody following this thread saw what you did. oh so now im a liar coming from you i take that for what it is worth nothing. yes punky little man you are a liar. not because it comes from me. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

crag beryl wrote oops ... you have a little bit of ... no up a little ... yeah right there youve got cum on your chin. youve got punkys spunk all over your face graywacke. borrowing my insults makes you look desperate. *try* to come up with your own cock master. and ... graywacke puhleez. ive heard *all* geology jokes and their all equally lame. puhleeze graywacke lame jokes and insults are what youre all about. thats it. i havent seen any useful information from you yet. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : azwiley1

on may 18 922 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin on may 17 1036 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinmash on may 17 116 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin on may 16 232 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkinhead it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. duh. you dipshit its a law of physics. duh how about you go back and learn to read you fucking retard. it was your cock sucking boyfriend that started this shit. so since he didnt answer it how about you take his dick out of your mouth and you try too. he gave a fine answer. you snipped the rest of his sentence right where you wanted to then accused him of telling you to overinflate your tires. that was dishonest. be man enough to admit it now punkin. apologize. first of all cock breath i would like for you to point out ot me where i asked anyone at all for advice. hell point out to me where the hell i asked a quest

From : azwiley1

on may 18 941 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote bryan wrote azwiley1 wrote im sorry in all the years i have been working on cars to including the creation and installation of competition stereo systmes i have never heard of a wire a heavy there are gauges from 00 to 1/0 to 22. so what is it hell tell me this what size is the cabling in a set of jumper cables hell what you idiot mine are 4 awg. you think theyre all the same when i set up my 77 d200 for my superwench s3500 i used 1/0 welding cable to feed the 175a disconnects at the front & rear. i didnt *need* to go that large but the wire wasnt too expensive at the time and its what the pins for the connectors would fit. at the same time i installed dual interstate group 27 workaholic batteries with a solenoid between them. the solenoid is energized from the accessory feed de-energized during cranking. the winch is powered from the 2nd battery. later i fabricated a set of jumper cables from 1/0. the cables have a connector on one end that will plug into the 175a connector... i can jump-start someone from either end of my truck. bryan excellent but i think you lost punkin there. he installs car stereos. no asshole once again you are wrong. first i used to

From : azwiley1

audio and electronics which if you knew anyting about where i worked and who our clients were involved a lot more then what you think. second of all just like every other time you open your mouth you are making stupid statements based of no fact no knowledge and simply because you have obsolutely no purpose here other then to follow me around like a crack whore looking for her next dick. why not only do i still not understand what your infactuation with me is i really dont care anymore. you are a waste of oxygen and a waste of time. maybe one day you will learn that you really should know more about the people you are attacking and trying to disprove. when the info that i post become dangerous and harmful to others as his info has countless time then maybe you will have reasons behind what you are doing. but i can tell you that you will never have that reason because i do not prove info like that. . 222 335210 1179552288.179388.40050@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.combig snip oh and to get this right for you the learned impaired and for tbone here is the exact post from snoman the very first one that he made following my post. checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring a impact with a object on road tires fail like this from overload/oheating pressure vs load and usage so any deaf fool can read that he specifically stated that you increase the tire pressures. it was not until following posts by roy who is the first one to attack his as you say about his statement. .

From : beryl

on may 17 1020 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. example nascar underinflates tires during a pit stop because they know that it will increase as they get hot. while true they do not do this just to avoid exceeding max cold pressure as im sure that you know so what exactly does this have to do with the thread in general. . by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 that is not what he said. per his very first post this is exactly what he said read the damn thing before you start sound more like barrel! as per typical snojob tactic when he got called on a statement he chaged it but you would have seen that if you had read it just as you say that roy and i need to. funny though you didnt. i wonder just what the ap in the tires would have been at the time of the blow out had i followed this logic never mind the fact that it was over 100 out side and the road was prob close to 150. i would be willing to bet that i would not have been as lucky as i was had i followed your recommendations a blowout is a blowout so what real difference would 6.5 lbs have made i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. thanks fuck nuts. if you and roy for that matter actually bothered to read what he said you would have seen just as i did that he did say not to exceed maximum rated cold pressure. his actual statement was it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire and he was the one to put the limitation in parentheses so he didnt say to crank up the pressure to dangerous limits. if you are going to attack the guy at least wait until he gets it wrong or the only one looking like a fool is the one making the attack. first off tbone you need to go back and read the entire damn thread this is not the statement that made in his very first post in the thread these statement were made after roy got on him. .

From : beryl

trucks nearly 6 years old now 2001 dakota club cab 4x4. from a distance when clean shiny and well-cared for. closer up though shes starting to show her age. orangepeel everywhere cept where we had the bumper fixed in october scratches and swirls that no quantity of scratch-x will take out. i tell myself thats just the character of an older well-used truck... but it still bugs me. is orange peel just one of the ravages of age is there anything that can be done about it the water here is incredibly hard. so hard how hard is it broke a glass once when the faucet dripped! g and its so hot that water drops are nearly instantaneously burned into the finish. i have to go over the entire truck with detailer or scratchx after drying in order to get the water drops that were faster than i am. wondering if theres a trick to keep this from happening if i wanted to get the covering of not-fine-enough-for-scratchx scratches out how would i go about it can you tell ive just come in from washing the truck sometimes i miss the chevette. didnt take nearly as long to wash hope youre all enjoying your northern hemisphere spring. here were enjoying the fact that autumn finally and suddenly arrived last week and here winters only about a month away. now its all the way down into the 70s during the day. jmc .

From : craig c

on may 18 1127 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote puhleeze graywacke lame jokes and insults are what youre all about. only with those that believe that they are english scholars. thats it. i havent seen any useful information from you yet. kettle ... you are black. -pot not being a mechanic my auto related responses are usually limited to maintenance tasks oil change diff fluid change tranny fluid change etc and alternative fuels because of my background biodiesel ethanol etc. now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny craig c. .

From : denny

on may 18 1127 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote puhleeze graywacke lame jokes and insults are what youre all about. only with those that believe that they are english scholars. thats it. i havent seen any useful information from you yet. kettle ... you are black. -pot not being a mechanic my auto related responses are usually limited to maintenance tasks oil change diff fluid change tranny fluid change etc and alternative fuels because of my background biodiesel ethanol etc. now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny now that was funny..... vbg denny craig c. .

From : beryl

craig c. wrote on may 18 1127 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote puhleeze graywacke lame jokes and insults are what youre all about. only with those that believe that they are english scholars. it doesnt follow. thats it. i havent seen any useful information from you yet. kettle ... you are black. -pot hardly. i divide my time. --- t1+t2/tt=1 not being a mechanic my auto related responses are usually limited to maintenance tasks oil change diff fluid change tranny fluid change etc and alternative fuels because of my background biodiesel ethanol etc. now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

beryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : craig c

on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. why all the coddling of larry i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. i dont agree. i think you may have misunderstood his intentions. he is attempting from what i can gather to push snotard out for the reasons i listed above. now i dont read all of larrys posts. i only read posts that 1 i can contribute something to or 2 contains information that i find interesting. there are a few folks in this group that have various talents and expertise. larrys expertise is car audio and various electronics. at least the stuff ive read pertains to this. snotard on the other hand runs into the group drops a big pile of stinky shit which has to be cleaned up/corrected by someone else and then runs out crying about immaturity and trolling. a couple or three months ago his time came. your self appointed position as lesson-teaching a.a.d.t. grammar teacher guy is unwanted and has damaged your credibility irrepairably. should i quit maybe. tell me why. i think you should. 1 i we are tired of your baseless insults. 2 *you* have added nothing of value to this group. 3 although i dont agree with it youve made your point. larry and i havent always seen eye-to-eye either. in fact we exchanged heated words once. however since we are both big boys we compromised on what we disagreed on and moved forward. the ball is in snotards court. he has given grossly inaccurate information and not only refuses to retract his errors but also continues spreading this inaccurate information. snotard deserves what he gets and so do you. craig c. .

From : roy

on may 17 1020 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is in fact correct and nowhere did he say to over inflate anything. i do not keep my tires at maximum pressure as there is no need to and unlike car tires most lt tires can safely be run below max listed pressure especially when not carying their full rated load. hmmm the tires on the charger are rated max at 51 psi. max load 1709 care to guess what the recomended pressure is heres that semi word againg m/t i have no idea but once again we are not talking about a car tire even a specialized one like your charger uses. the tires on my car are rated at 32lbs and that is what is recommended. my truck actually came with a chart stating different tire pressures depending on the load that they are carrying. i thought it was factory recomended pressure and the amount of air added for highway use or higher speed higher than normal. guess i missed the boat wont be the first time. oh my car tire recomended 32psi max 51psi . not a whole lot of difference in pressure compared to a lt. big difference in speed rateing and load. if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on may 17 1020 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is in fact correct and nowhere did he say to over inflate anything. i do not keep my tires at maximum pressure as there is no need to and unlike car tires most lt tires can safely be run below max listed pressure especially when not carying their full rated load. hmmm the tires on the charger are rated max at 51 psi. max load 1709 care to guess what the recomended pressure is heres that semi word againg m/t i have no idea but once again we are not talking about a car tire even a specialized one like your charger uses. the tires on my car are rated at 32lbs and that is what is recommended. my truck actually came with a chart stating different tire pressures depending on the load that they are carrying. i thought it was factory recomended pressure and the amount of air added for highway use or higher speed higher than normal. guess i missed the boat wont be the first time. oh my car tire recomended 32psi max 51psi . not a whole lot of difference in pressure compared to a lt. big difference in speed rateing and load. i guess that i am falling way behind on hp tire tech. 51 lbs seems like quite a lot of air for a car tire but i guess that if it is a wide low profile tire.... it looks like when i finally get a new car in the performance area i should sit down and read the owners manual - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : azwiley1

that is not what he said. per his very first post this is exactly what he said read the damn thing before you start sound more like barrel! actually its not. that is just what you took it to mean. his exact words were in his first post were actually it is what he said. please look at the very first post he made not the one that he made after roy did/said anything. i did not take anything that wasnt there. but what ever at the point as it is insignificant and really doesnt matter. the tire that blew out is gone i am 450 buck broker having to replace two tires and the issue is gone. however as a point of contension i never asked anyone as to the reason why the tire failed i only shared an experience about something like a lot do in here so the preaching about under/over inflation by sno was unwarranted as there was nothing to fix .

From : azwiley1

on may 20 116 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote beryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. i am an abusive punk who has been asking for your shit for a long time really care to back up your bold statements with some data and actual facts problem is you cant. everyone in here at some point and time has had arguements and disagreements with each other. however unlike you we were all man enough to deal with and get over it. i say unlike you because you have a catchy little sig line which was a statement made by me to steve b has nothing to do with you yet you use it anyway but you are too childish to understand that. yet steve b and i or he with anyone have not had words with each other in some time. care to guess why the problem with you is that for whatever reason you have chosen to continually follow me from thread to thread group to group and attack me in every single one of them. who is the punk not i. even when snoman and i had a civil disagreement on something you just can not help yourself you have to interject your bullshit. the really sad and pathetic thing is that you are just too damn stupid to go about things the proper way. as craig said snoman will continue to be gotten every time his post information that is harmful and dangerous. you though choose to just attack people for the sake of starting problems. i went after your lover idol and hero one time for a tore up post as has every one else. are you attacking them as you are me no why because you have some sort of sexual fantasy with me which i truly do not appreciate as i do not swing your way. whatever i am through with you. i know you will continue to act the ass that you truly are and have proven so many times. i am here it help people when they as for it and to talk with folks that i consider friends and this is exactly what i plan on doing. .

From : azwiley1

talked my wife into putting the house in ma on the market. of course she put conditions. if it doesnt sell in 65 days which will allow her to give proper notice at her teaching job it comes off the market until next year. which may or may not be a bad thing. so if anybody is looking or relocating i may have what you are looking for. oh i also have a number of ma compliant hand guns for sale. roy ill give ya $500 for the ar.... denny .

From : azwiley1

on may 23 1221 pm the...@whatever.net wrote on 23 may 2007 082536 -0700 azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote on may 22 1029 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin ... is gone. however as a point of contension i never asked anyone as to the reason why the tire failed i only shared an experience about since youre asking why the tire failed ill tell you. you drive the empty truck hundreds of miles every day with 65psi overinflated tires. now theyre bald in the middle of the tread. you are absolutely the dumbest most ignorant piece of shit cock sucking asshole rimming cum drinking flaming rest area whore i have ever had this displeasure of encountering in my life! i have dealt with some really stupid brain dead people in my life but absolutely none were as bad off in the head as you are. lol. larry larry. man you gotta get off the fence pal. you got to quite being so unopinionated. how do you really feel show me anywhere you cum seeking freak where the hell i ever asked a fucking question even if i did i will honestly admit i would rather listen to snoman long winded disertations about nothing than anything you spew.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text -- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - sorry i was told that i need to learn to open up more and express myself. i have to start somewhere right. .

From : azwiley1

on may 23 1221 pm the...@whatever.net wrote on 23 may 2007 082536 -0700 azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote on may 22 1029 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin ... is gone. however as a point of contension i never asked anyone as to the reason why the tire failed i only shared an experience about since youre asking why the tire failed ill tell you. you drive the empty truck hundreds of miles every day with 65psi overinflated tires. now theyre bald in the middle of the tread. you are absolutely the dumbest most ignorant piece of shit cock sucking asshole rimming cum drinking flaming rest area whore i have ever had this displeasure of encountering in my life! i have dealt with some really stupid brain dead people in my life but absolutely none were as bad off in the head as you are. lol. larry larry. man you gotta get off the fence pal. you got to quite being so unopinionated. how do you really feel show me anywhere you cum seeking freak where the hell i ever asked a fucking question even if i did i will honestly admit i would rather listen to snoman long winded disertations about nothing than anything you spew.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text -- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - sorry i was told that i need to learn to open up more and express myself. i have to start somewhere right. .

From : azwiley1

on may 22 1029 pm beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote punkin ... is gone. however as a point of contension i never asked anyone as to the reason why the tire failed i only shared an experience about since youre asking why the tire failed ill tell you. you drive the empty truck hundreds of miles every day with 65psi overinflated tires. now theyre bald in the middle of the tread. you are absolutely the dumbest most ignorant piece of shit cock sucking asshole rimming cum drinking flaming rest area whore i have ever had this displeasure of encountering in my life! i have dealt with some really stupid brain dead people in my life but absolutely none were as bad off in the head as you are. now larry thats no way to speak to our resident crotch cannibal. hes doing the best with what he hasl although it isnt much it is what it is. show me anywhere you cum seeking freak where the hell i ever asked a fucking question even if i did i will honestly admit i would rather listen to snoman long winded disertations about nothing than anything you spew. nah id rather read stuff from rest area ricky. the idiots stuff was dangerous. this fool doesnt know a whole heck of a lot so ..... .

From : Annonymous

on 20 may 2007 121616 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on may 20 116 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote sheryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. seriously sheryl you have some very significant emotional problems. lets review the history in a tad more accurate manner. you came charging into this ng to protect the honor of the one known as snotroll. you and your alter ego steve the boob were under a very mistaken impression. you actually thought that you meant shit to something. you first tried to blow off roy but you couldnt. then you tried to compete with me and finally had to killfile me one of you did anyway--its so hard to keep your two personalities seperate because you couldnt compete. then you went after larry. larrys only mistake was being dignified enough to actually try to ask you what had crawled up your ass and died. he was actually the only one who gave even a small rip about what you thought or said. no one else here does. so lets see. larry tried to find out what was bothering you and you blew an o-ring at him. everyone else still pitches shit on snotroll when he posts his mind numbing bs. you never slowed that one bit. you have convinced everyone here that you are are an assclown as well as an incredible moron. you make yourself look like a fool. yeah you really rubbed his nose in shit. geez sheryl.......i mean look girl you have no sense of perspective at all. you are a moron. but never the less dont go away please you have been fun. .

From : beryl

punkin on may 20 116 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote beryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. i am an abusive punk who has been asking for your shit for a long time not /my/ shit punkin just shit. you know what goes around comes around as ye sow so shall ye reap that kind of thing. really care to back up your bold statements with some data and actual facts problem is you cant. maybe i will. i dont know how long quite a while or a long time is but its been long enough for me anyway. everyone in here at some point and time has had arguements and disagreements with each other. however unlike you we were all man enough to deal with and get over it. not according to crag. he says its your intention to drive someone out of the group. transparently lying about what someone says isnt a very clever way to accomplish that. i say unlike you because you have a catchy little sig line which was a statement made by me to oh is that still there steve b has nothing to do with you yet you use it anyway but you are too childish to understand that. yet steve b and i or he with anyone have not had words with each other in some time. care to guess why nope. the problem with you is that for whatever reason you have chosen to continually follow me from thread to thread group to group and attack no punkin im not following you group-to-group. im just not messing around with trimming headers of crossposts. me in every single one of them. who is the punk not i. even when snoman and i had a civil disagreement on something you just can not help yourself you have to interject your bullshit. i pointed you to an excellent thread in the homebuilt aircraft group when you were asking about nitrogen for tires. the really sad and pathetic thing is that you are just too damn stupid to go about things the proper way. as craig said snoman will continue to be gotten every time his post information that is harmful you lied about snomans post here punkin. and dangerous. you though choose to just attack people for the sake of starting problems. i went after your lover idol and hero one time for a tore up post as has every one else. are you attacking them as you are me no why because you have some sort of sexual fantasy with me which i truly do not appreciate as i do not swing your way. you swing any way i want to push you punkin. whatever i am through with you. i know you will continue to act the ass that you truly are and have proven so many times. i am here it help people when they as for it and to talk with folks that i consider friends and this is exactly what i plan on doing. please stop crying. were not through yet. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

thedumbguy on 20 may 2007 121616 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on may 20 116 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote sheryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. seriously sheryl you have some very significant emotional problems. lets review the history in a tad more accurate manner. you came charging into this ng to protect the honor of the one known as snotroll. you and your alter ego steve the boob were under a very mistaken impression. you actually thought that you meant shit to something. you first tried to blow off roy but you couldnt. then you tried to compete with me and finally had to killfile me one of you did anyway--its so hard to keep your two personalities seperate because you couldnt compete. then you went after larry. larrys only mistake was being dignified enough bwaahaahaa! please dumbguy im stopping right here. i wont even finish reading your post. to actually try to ask you what had crawled up your ass and died. he was actually the only one who gave even a small rip about what you thought or said. no one else here does. so lets see. larry tried to find out what was bothering you and you blew an o-ring at him. everyone else still pitches shit on snotroll when he posts his mind numbing bs. you never slowed that one bit. you have convinced everyone here that you are are an assclown as well as an incredible moron. you make yourself look like a fool. yeah you really rubbed his nose in shit. geez sheryl.......i mean look girl you have no sense of perspective at all. you are a moron. but never the less dont go away please you have been fun. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : beryl

craig c. wrote on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. he isnt my friend he occasionally-or-more-often gives erroneous information. so what everyone here is eager to correct him when it happens and they do swiftly. but punkins bad information that will pass without a murmur. nobody wants to shatter little punkins confidence because hes in the inner circle here hes a buddy! why all the coddling of larry i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. by my own admission i see that punkin gets the coddling he needs from skippy thedumbassdumbguy nosey then more emerge in a blur next its you next next itll be someone else. its all entertaining. i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. i dont agree. i think you may have misunderstood his intentions. he is attempting from what i can gather to push snotard out for the reasons i listed above. i didnt misunderstand his intentions. theres more he likes to humiliate someone over poor spelling when theres nothing else to go after. thats where i got involved. now i dont read all of larrys posts. i only read posts that 1 i can contribute something to or 2 contains information that i find interesting. there are a few folks in this group that have various talents and expertise. larrys expertise is car audio and various electronics. except for relays i guess. got an elusive overnight battery drain well larry-the-troubleshooter wants you to check for open relays. found one! another one! replace them... damn the new ones are defective too! no return on electrical items go buy a couple more from a different store... well damn! these ones are bad too! at least the stuff ive read pertains to this. i guess you didnt catch his oil expertise. some guy kar buys a used 2001 dodge truck doesnt have the owners manual yet comes here asking whats the correct oil for his engine. so punkin proceeds to tell him that golly he used to use 10w-40 once-upon-a-time somewhere in some unidentified vehicle he uses 10w-40 or 10w-50 now in arizona in some other unidentified truck and in his bike he uses royal purple etc. all sorts of utterly worthless crap. i quote exactly what my 2001 owners manual says and punkin declares that the oil weight recommendations in dodge owners manuals are only recommendations! there to be disregarded. snotard on the other hand runs into the group drops a big pile of stinky shit which has to be cleaned up/corrected by someone else and then runs out crying about immaturity and trolling. crying looks more like easy-going comebacks. ill produce punkin quotes if you want to see some crying. a couple or three months ago his time came. your self appointed position as lesson-teaching a.a.d.t. grammar teacher guy is unwanted and has damaged your credibility irrepairably. i think you walked into the theater in the middle of the movie. googleup the thread hole in the bed from march 19. should i quit maybe. tell me why. i think you should. 1 i we are tired of your baseless insults. really! dont tire yourself crag drop out at any time. 2 *you* have added nothing of value to this group. false. 3 although i dont agree with it youve made your point. gotta protect punkin so you dont like my point. larry and i havent always seen eye-to-eye either. in fact we exchanged heated words once. however since we are both big boys we compromised on what we disagreed on and moved forward. the ball is in snotards court. he has given grossly inaccurate information and not only refuses to retract his errors but also nobody is going to make a retraction when you try to *beat* it out of them. punkin cant bring himself to do it. so i am a bad meanie. im acting like a... a... a punk! thats the point. continues spreading this inaccurate information. you like how punkin just sold that guy a new hd alternator you have absolutely nothing to say regarding punkin lying about faked inaccurate information in this thread snotard deserves what he gets and so do you. thanks! and you havent given me any reason to quit. you didnt have the guts to speak directly about this. wimp. craig c. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : Annonymous

on mon 21 may 2007 011941 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote craig c. wrote on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. he isnt my friend he occasionally-or-more-often gives erroneous information. so what everyone here is eager to correct him when it happens and they do swiftly. but punkins bad information that will pass without a murmur. nobody wants to shatter little punkins confidence because hes in the inner circle here hes a buddy! so the truth comes out. sheryl has a clinicly dangerous inferiority complex. shes confused. wants to be one of the guys. is striking out against those that she thinks are in some sort of a club or something. she has really lost touch with reality. she needs meds quite badly. why all the coddling of larry i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. by my own admission i see that punkin gets the coddling he needs from skippy thedumbassdumbguy nosey then more emerge in a blur next its you next next itll be someone else. its all entertaining. i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. i dont agree. i think you may have misunderstood his intentions. he is attempting from what i can gather to push snotard out for the reasons i listed above. i didnt misunderstand his intentions. theres more he likes to humiliate someone over poor spelling when theres nothing else to go after. thats where i got involved. now i dont read all of larrys posts. i only read posts that 1 i can contribute something to or 2 contains information that i find interesting. there are a few folks in this group that have various talents and expertise. larrys expertise is car audio and various electronics. except for relays i guess. got an elusive overnight battery drain well larry-the-troubleshooter wants you to check for open relays. found one! another one! replace them... damn the new ones are defective too! no return on electrical items go buy a couple more from a different store... well damn! these ones are bad too! at least the stuff ive read pertains to this. i guess you didnt catch his oil expertise. some guy kar buys a used 2001 dodge truck doesnt have the owners manual yet comes here asking whats the correct oil for his engine. so punkin proceeds to tell him that golly he used to use 10w-40 once-upon-a-time somewhere in some unidentified vehicle he uses 10w-40 or 10w-50 now in arizona in some other unidentified truck and in his bike he uses royal purple etc. all sorts of utterly worthless crap. i quote exactly what my 2001 owners manual says and punkin declares that the oil weight recommendations in dodge owners manuals are only recommendations! there to be disregarded. snotard on the other hand runs into the group drops a big pile of stinky shit which has to be cleaned up/corrected by someone else and then runs out crying about immaturity and trolling. crying looks more like easy-going comebacks. ill produce punkin quotes if you want to see some crying. a couple or three months ago his time came. your self appointed position as lesson-teaching a.a.d.t. grammar teacher guy is unwanted and has damaged your credibility irrepairably. i think you walked into the theater in the middle of the movie. googleup the thread hole in the bed from march 19. should i quit maybe. tell me why. i think you should. 1 i we are tired of your baseless insults. really! dont tire yourself crag drop out at any time. 2 *you* have added nothing of value to this group. false. 3 although i dont agree with it youve made your point. gotta protect punkin so you dont like my point. larry and i havent always seen eye-to-eye either. in fact we exchanged heated words once. however since we are both big boys we compromised on what we disagreed on and moved forward. the ball is in snotards court. he has given grossly inaccurate information and not only refuses to retract his errors but also nobody is going to make a retraction when you try to *beat* it out of them. punkin cant bring himself to do it. so i am a bad meanie. im acting like a... a... a punk! thats the point. continues spreading this inaccurate information. you like how punkin just sold that guy a new hd alternator you have absolutely nothing to say regarding punkin lying about faked inaccurate information in this thread snotard deserves what he gets and so do you. thanks! and you havent given me any reason to quit. you didnt have the guts to speak directly about this. wimp. craig c. .

From : Annonymous

on sun 20 may 2007 214828 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote thedumbguy on 20 may 2007 121616 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on may 20 116 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote sheryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. seriously sheryl you have some very significant emotional problems. lets review the history in a tad more accurate manner. you came charging into this ng to protect the honor of the one known as snotroll. you and your alter ego steve the boob were under a very mistaken impression. you actually thought that you meant shit to something. you first tried to blow off roy but you couldnt. then you tried to compete with me and finally had to killfile me one of you did anyway--its so hard to keep your two personalities seperate because you couldnt compete. then you went after larry. larrys only mistake was being dignified enough bwaahaahaa! please dumbguy im stopping right here. i wont even finish reading your post. oh but you know that you did sheryl. you did you had no answer so you are going to pretend like you didnt. how sad. to actually try to ask you what had crawled up your ass and died. he was actually the only one who gave even a small rip about what you thought or said. no one else here does. so lets see. larry tried to find out what was bothering you and you blew an o-ring at him. everyone else still pitches shit on snotroll when he posts his mind numbing bs. you never slowed that one bit. you have convinced everyone here that you are are an assclown as well as an incredible moron. you make yourself look like a fool. yeah you really rubbed his nose in shit. geez sheryl.......i mean look girl you have no sense of perspective at all. you are a moron. but never the less dont go away please you have been fun. .

From : roy

craig c. wrote on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. when the any mis info that larry or anybody else rises to the level of the mind numbing crap the idiot puts out let me know. i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. the punk as you put it around here is you. you hop into something that has been going on for months in a number of groups. now you think the world is going to revolve around you and what you decide is right or proper the ng according to the crotch cannibal ive a hint for ya it isnt going to happen so far you have managed to alienate just about everybody that reads this. i dont see anybnody shouting ya your right go getem. just the opposite most have asked ya kockit off. do ya think there might be a message there probably not as you fancy yourself as the new sherrif. so by all means you do what ya want and im sure folks will act accordingly. everybody here can come up with a cute little sig. do ya want to see some i mean fair is fair. you have no idea how absolutly nasty this group can get. but it is totally up to you. oh fyi that trace program is available. the one that was used on dd that printed out a map and located his house and complete address. you are aware of dd arent ya you havnt reached that level yet but you very well could. dont consrtrue any of this as a threat it isnt just pointing out that we have played these silly little kid games before. oh we have won. so as i said before do what ya gotta do. .

From : craig c

on may 21 319 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote he isnt my friend he occasionally-or-more-often gives erroneous information. so what everyone here is eager to correct him when it happens and they do swiftly. in my experience inaccurate information is corrected swiftly in this group thankfully. but punkins bad information that will pass without a murmur. nobody wants to shatter little punkins confidence because hes in the inner circle here hes a buddy! ive not read any inaccurate information posted by larry. as i said in my prior post i dont read every single post by every single person. in my experience his advice has been accurate thus far. regarding being a buddy ... im not here to make friends. im here to exchange information about dodge trucks. larry is a regular so is roy tom l nosey and others. their guidence has saved me lots and lots of money over the past few years. so to get to your point yes i trust what they have to say and usually give them more credit than snotard or any other drive-by poster. you next next itll be someone else. its all entertaining. indeed. i had many laughs last week reading your posts. i didnt misunderstand his intentions. theres more he likes to humiliate someone over poor spelling when theres nothing else to go after. thats where i got involved. ive only seen him do this to snotard. as i said before ... he deserves it. except for relays i guess. got an elusive overnight battery drain well larry-the-troubleshooter wants you to check for open relays. i dont know enough about electronics to say whether this is inaccurate or not. why dont you debate it with larry some guy kar buys a used 2001 dodge truck doesnt have the owners manual yet comes here asking whats the correct oil for his engine. so punkin proceeds to tell him that golly he used to use 10w-40 once-upon-a-time somewhere in some unidentified vehicle he uses 10w-40 or 10w-50 now in arizona in some other unidentified truck and in his bike he uses royal purple etc. all sorts of utterly worthless crap. i have found that discussions about oil are highly opinionated. some swear by one thing like royal purple while others dismiss it as snake oil. i did not catch the discussion that larry had about oil. in all likelihood you are misrepresenting the context of the discussion. as i said before i tend to trust certain members more than others. i quote exactly what my 2001 owners manual says and punkin declares that the oil weight recommendations in dodge owners manuals are only recommendations! there to be disregarded. i think you meant theyre not there. you deserved that. larry has an opinion that differs from the manual probably because of the extreme climate he lives in. apparently the oil he is using serves him well. no harm no foul. really! dont tire yourself crag drop out at any time. youll be ignored by everyone soon. especially now that we have tried to reason with you and you still make excuses for being an asshole. 2 *you* have added nothing of value to this group. false. oh thats right i forgot about the valuable grammar lessons. gotta protect punkin so you dont like my point. your point makes no sense. thats why i dont like it. nobody is going to make a retraction when you try to *beat* it out of them. punkin cant bring himself to do it. so i am a bad meanie. im acting like a... a... a punk! thats the point. did you see tom lawrences post from may 16th in this thread where once again he tried to calmly reason with snotard he explained why he had no credibility and even went as far telling him how to gain some credibility back. guess what no retractions from snotard. snotard is like a giant seagull; he flys in makes a bunch of noise shits all over everything and then leaves. continues spreading this inaccurate information. you like how punkin just sold that guy a new hd alternator is the advice wrong if so tell us why and what *you* think the solution is. you have absolutely nothing to say regarding punkin lying about faked inaccurate information in this thread nope. but then i dont cut every word apart and examine it under microscope either. im sure larry has made errors but not any that i have seen. i certainly dont think he would intentionally lie. thanks! and you havent given me any reason to quit. you didnt have the guts to speak directly about this. wimp. i didnt tell you what you wanted to hear. i had that same problem with my ex-wife. craig c. .

From : craig c

on may 21 319 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote he isnt my friend he occasionally-or-more-often gives erroneous information. so what everyone here is eager to correct him when it happens and they do swiftly. in my experience inaccurate information is corrected swiftly in this group thankfully. but punkins bad information that will pass without a murmur. nobody wants to shatter little punkins confidence because hes in the inner circle here hes a buddy! ive not read any inaccurate information posted by larry. as i said in my prior post i dont read every single post by every single person. in my experience his advice has been accurate thus far. regarding being a buddy ... im not here to make friends. im here to exchange information about dodge trucks. larry is a regular so is roy tom l nosey and others. their guidence has saved me lots and lots of money over the past few years. so to get to your point yes i trust what they have to say and usually give them more credit than snotard or any other drive-by poster. you next next itll be someone else. its all entertaining. indeed. i had many laughs last week reading your posts. i didnt misunderstand his intentions. theres more he likes to humiliate someone over poor spelling when theres nothing else to go after. thats where i got involved. ive only seen him do this to snotard. as i said before ... he deserves it. except for relays i guess. got an elusive overnight battery drain well larry-the-troubleshooter wants you to check for open relays. i dont know enough about electronics to say whether this is inaccurate or not. why dont you debate it with larry some guy kar buys a used 2001 dodge truck doesnt have the owners manual yet comes here asking whats the correct oil for his engine. so punkin proceeds to tell him that golly he used to use 10w-40 once-upon-a-time somewhere in some unidentified vehicle he uses 10w-40 or 10w-50 now in arizona in some other unidentified truck and in his bike he uses royal purple etc. all sorts of utterly worthless crap. i have found that discussions about oil are highly opinionated. some swear by one thing like royal purple while others dismiss it as snake oil. i did not catch the discussion that larry had about oil. in all likelihood you are misrepresenting the context of the discussion. as i said before i tend to trust certain members more than others. i quote exactly what my 2001 owners manual says and punkin declares that the oil weight recommendations in dodge owners manuals are only recommendations! there to be disregarded. i think you meant theyre not there. you deserved that. larry has an opinion that differs from the manual probably because of the extreme climate he lives in. apparently the oil he is using serves him well. no harm no foul. really! dont tire yourself crag drop out at any time. youll be ignored by everyone soon. especially now that we have tried to reason with you and you still make excuses for being an asshole. 2 *you* have added nothing of value to this group. false. oh thats right i forgot about the valuable grammar lessons. gotta protect punkin so you dont like my point. your point makes no sense. thats why i dont like it. nobody is going to make a retraction when you try to *beat* it out of them. punkin cant bring himself to do it. so i am a bad meanie. im acting like a... a... a punk! thats the point. did you see tom lawrences post from may 16th in this thread where once again he tried to calmly reason with snotard he explained why he had no credibility and even went as far telling him how to gain some credibility back. guess what no retractions from snotard. snotard is like a giant seagull; he flys in makes a bunch of noise shits all over everything and then leaves. continues spreading this inaccurate information. you like how punkin just sold that guy a new hd alternator is the advice wrong well is it berl if it is wrong tell us why and what *you* think the problem is. you have absolutely nothing to say regarding punkin lying about faked inaccurate information in this thread nope. but then i dont cut every word apart and examine it under microscope either. im sure larry has made errors but not any that i have seen. i certainly dont think he would intentionally lie. thanks! and you havent given me any reason to quit. you didnt have the guts to speak directly about this. wimp. i didnt tell you what you wanted to hear. i had that same problem with my ex-wife. craig c. .

From : roy

craig c. wrote on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. when the any mis info that larry or anybody else rises to the level of the mind numbing crap the idiot puts out let me know. i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. the punk as you put it around here is you. you hop into something that has been going on for months in a number of groups. now you think the world is going to revolve around you and what you decide is right or proper the ng according to the crotch cannibal ive a hint for ya it isnt going to happen so far you have managed to alienate just about everybody that reads this. i dont see anybnody shouting ya your right go getem. just the opposite most have asked ya kockit off. do ya think there might be a message there probably not as you fancy yourself as the new sherrif. so by all means you do what ya want and im sure folks will act accordingly. everybody here can come up with a cute little sig. do ya want to see some i mean fair is fair. you have no idea how absolutly nasty this group can get. but it is totally up to you. oh fyi that trace program is available. the one that was used on dd that printed out a map and located his house and complete address. you are aware of dd arent ya you havnt reached that level yet but you very well could. dont consrtrue any of this as a threat it isnt just pointing out that we have played these silly little kid games before. oh we have won. so as i said before do what ya gotta do. i left the spelling errors so you would have something to bitch about .

From : beryl

crag on may 21 319 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote he isnt my friend he occasionally-or-more-often gives erroneous information. so what everyone here is eager to correct him when it happens and they do swiftly. in my experience inaccurate information is corrected swiftly in this group thankfully. but punkin doesnt thank me wuts up wit dat but punkins bad information that will pass without a murmur. nobody wants to shatter little punkins confidence because hes in the inner circle here hes a buddy! ive not read any inaccurate information posted by larry. good strategy there crag just skip punkins junk. yeah. as i said in my prior post i dont read every single post by every single person. in my experience his advice has been accurate thus far. regarding being a buddy ... im not here to make friends. im here to exchange information about dodge trucks. larry is a regular so is roy tom l nosey and others. their guidence has saved me lots and lots of money over the past few years. so to get to your point yes i trust what they have to say and usually give them more credit than snotard or any other drive-by poster. tom l does good expertly walks you through the whole process. he should write repair manuals for someone like haynes or chiltons. you next next itll be someone else. its all entertaining. indeed. i had many laughs last week reading your posts. pretty strange of you then crag seeing as how you skip all of punkins. i didnt misunderstand his intentions. theres more he likes to humiliate someone over poor spelling when theres nothing else to go after. thats where i got involved. ive only seen him do this to snotard. as i said before ... he deserves it. hek ya wair wud we b widdowt ar spellur nazi ta handl da rifraf. except for relays i guess. got an elusive overnight battery drain well larry-the-troubleshooter wants you to check for open relays. i dont know enough about electronics to say whether this is inaccurate or not. why dont you debate it with larry its ez. even for you crag. its nuthin but a switch. on = close the switch that means the wires touch! off = open the switch that means the wires dont! some guy kar buys a used 2001 dodge truck doesnt have the owners manual yet comes here asking whats the correct oil for his engine. so punkin proceeds to tell him that golly he used to use 10w-40 once-upon-a-time somewhere in some unidentified vehicle he uses 10w-40 or 10w-50 now in arizona in some other unidentified truck and in his bike he uses royal purple etc. all sorts of utterly worthless crap. i have found that discussions about oil are highly opinionated. some swear by one thing like royal purple while others dismiss it as a gay purple bottle. but punkin is a probably trendy guy. snake oil. i did not catch the discussion that larry had about oil. in all likelihood you are misrepresenting the context of the discussion. as i said before i tend to trust certain members more than others. you should actually start reading before you decide where to place your trust crag. or is it really about male bonding for you that after all is where the a.a.d.t. group is evolving. i quote exactly what my 2001 owners manual says and punkin declares that the oil weight recommendations in dodge owners manuals are only recommendations! there to be disregarded. i think you meant theyre not there. you deserved that. nope crag i meant it precisely as i wrote it. sentence fragment and all. larry has an opinion that differs from the manual probably because of the extreme climate he lives in. apparently the oil he is using serves him well. no harm no foul. but crag i also described exactly what the chart on the same page illustrated. from waaay below zero to well past 100 degrees off the chart in both directions in fact and punkins opinion isnt there. id spend the effort to google the thread and post a tinyurl link except it would make no difference to you anyway. really! dont tire yourself crag drop out at any time. youll be ignored by everyone soon. especially now that we have tried soon never comes though. look at roy hes still trying after flopping around for 2 months now and hes announced repeatedly that hes done with me. to reason with you and you still make excuses for being an asshole. im making no excuses. yes i am being an asshole. i already told you and it didnt register in your puny head. its still there my own admission about 10 lines down. ill frame it for you this time. 2 *you* have added nothing of value to this group. false. oh thats right i forgot about the valuable grammar lessons. you didnt bother to look at where i began being an asshole. i told you exactly where and when the hole in the bed thread from march 19. afraid youll find unwanted facts sorry crag thats all im going to do for you. your laziness and

From : beryl

skippy craig c. wrote on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. when the any mis info that larry or anybody else rises to the level of the mind numbing crap the idiot puts out let me know. surpassed it already. i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. the punk as you put it around here is you. i already said as much. thats the whole point the whole point. actually im the counterpunk. not nearly as big an inner circle as you punks got just me i guess but i do the best i can. you hop into something that has been going on for months in a number of groups. now you think the world is going to revolve around you and what you decide is right or proper you think this open worldwide public access unmoderated group revolves around you the ng according to the crotch cannibal ive a hint for ya it isnt going to happen so far you have managed to alienate just about everybody that reads this. we dont know that. we do know that the regulars that want this open worldwide public access unmoderated group as their privately managed social club arent so happy about the change of events. lots of lurkers though probably lots that dont post here for fear of making a mistake and being mugged for it. i dont see anybnody shouting ya your right go getem. just the opposite most have asked ya kockit off. do ya think there might be a message there probably not as you fancy yourself as the new sherrif. maybe we should take a poll start a new thread for that. so by all means you do what ya want and im sure folks will act accordingly. let me know when you decide to get started. yawn everybody here can come up with a cute little sig. do ya want to see some i mean fair is fair. you have no idea how absolutly nasty this group can meek bunch of creampuffs. get. but it is totally up to you. oh fyi that trace program is available. the one that was used on dd that printed out a map and located his house i dial into a modem bank shared by many isps across many cities. kinda sucks wish there was dsl here. and complete address. you are aware of dd arent ya you havnt reached that level yet but you very well could. dont consrtrue any of this as a threat it isnt just pointing out that we have played these silly little kid games before. oh we have won. ok you won silly little kid games. so as i said before do what ya gotta do. i left the spelling errors so you would have something to bitch about too numerous and who really cares anyway i usually - almost always - let the sloppy writing go. and when i do decide to correct errors its to fix things up not to heap ridicule on anybody. oh except when a punk makes an issue of them then theres an invitation. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : roy

pete wrote on wed 23 may 2007 061058 -0400 mpberti mpberi@ec.rr.com wrote nosey wrote mpberti wrote nosey wrote jeff gagnon wrote gas war a gas war idea that will work---- this was originally sent by a retired coca cola executive. it came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from halliburton. its worthy of your consideration 8--- it wont work. http//www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp ive been boycotting exxon-mobil for years. the only thing ill buy from them is mobil 1 sys motor oilbecause its made form soybeans not crude. exxon is evil. lets bring them down!!!!!!!!!!!!! synthetic soybeans yep i dont think so... bullshit mobil 1 is made form soybeans so is amsoil castrol syntec is not. .

From : azwiley1

on wed 23 may 2007 111108 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on wed 23 may 2007 093151 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote talked my wife into putting the house in ma on the market. of course she put conditions. if it doesnt sell in 65 days which will allow her to give proper notice at her teaching job it comes off the market until next year. which may or may not be a bad thing. so if anybody is looking or relocating i may have what you are looking for. oh i also have a number of ma compliant hand guns for sale. you thinking you wont need any in florida not sure about that. no thats not it at all. ma is so restrictive that a number of makers will not develop a gun and jump through all the hoops that ma requires. a double stack cant be bought here. fl has no restrictions thus a wider selection of guns to choose from ooh. that sounds like fun! geez how unfair is this you get retirement....you get to buy new guns.....and what do i get sheryl in the ng. i realize no one promised me a bed of roses but that sux. life can be so unfair at times.... i guess it just sucks to be you..... vbg denny .

From : beryl

theguy@whatever.net wrote on sun 20 may 2007 214828 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote thedumbguy on 20 may 2007 121616 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on may 20 116 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote sheryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. seriously sheryl you have some very significant emotional problems. lets review the history in a tad more accurate manner. you came charging into this ng to protect the honor of the one known as snotroll. you and your alter ego steve the boob were under a very mistaken impression. you actually thought that you meant shit to something. you first tried to blow off roy but you couldnt. then you tried to compete with me and finally had to killfile me one of you did anyway--its so hard to keep your two personalities seperate because you couldnt compete. then you went after larry. larrys only mistake was being dignified enough bwaahaahaa! please dumbguy im stopping right here. i wont even finish reading your post. oh but you know that you did sheryl. you did you had no answer so you are going to pretend like you didnt. how sad. honest didnt really i swear. still havent. to actually try to ask you what had crawled up your ass and died. he was actually the only one who gave even a small rip about what you thought or said. no one else here does. so lets see. larry tried to find out what was bothering you and you blew an o-ring at him. everyone else still pitches shit on snotroll when he posts his mind numbing bs. you never slowed that one bit. you have convinced everyone here that you are are an assclown as well as an incredible moron. you make yourself look like a fool. yeah you really rubbed his nose in shit. geez sheryl.......i mean look girl you have no sense of perspective at all. you are a moron. but never the less dont go away please you have been fun. -- the reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - george bernard shaw .

From : azwiley1

on may 23 241 pm roy r...@home.net wrote seeing as we have people that are varied maybe one of you can answer this. what do you think is a reasonable deposit on a house valued around 400k i dont want to get tie up with a idiot that is messing around. im of the mind that if you are serious then put up some serious money. does 25-30k seem unreasonable if so what is a reasonable expectation roy i have always been told that you should have about 10% as a down/ deposit. now if it were my home and i was selling it myself if some one offered me what you are suggesting everything else being above board i would not turn it away. .

From : roy

skippy craig c. wrote on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. when the any mis info that larry or anybody else rises to the level of the mind numbing crap the idiot puts out let me know. surpassed it already. now that is pure bs i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. the punk as you put it around here is you. i already said as much. now that we agree on that. odd that you bitch about what you are. thats the whole point the whole point. actually im the counterpunk. not nearly as big an inner circle as you punks got just me i guess but i do the best i can. you hop into something that has been going on for months in a number of groups. now you think the world is going to revolve around you and what you decide is right or proper you think this open worldwide public access unmoderated group revolves around you of course not. but you seem to think it revolves around you. the ng according to the crotch cannibal ive a hint for ya it isnt going to happen so far you have managed to alienate just about everybody that reads this. we dont know that. we do know that the regulars that want this open worldwide public access unmoderated group as their privately managed social club arent so happy about the change of events. lots of lurkers though probably lots that dont post here for fear of making a mistake and being mugged for it. i think that it has become pretty clear that there isnt much if any support for ya. i dont see anybnody shouting ya your right go getem. just the opposite most have asked ya kockit off. do ya think there might be a message there probably not as you fancy yourself as the new sherrif. maybe we should take a poll start a new thread for that. do it! .

From : Annonymous

on mon 21 may 2007 224936 -0700 sheryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote well craig sheryl has now taken a shine to you! sorry. she sure spent a lot of time writing to you in this post. you struck a nerve somewhere. crag on may 21 319 am sheryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote he isnt my friend he occasionally-or-more-often gives erroneous information. so what everyone here is eager to correct him when it happens and they do swiftly. in my experience inaccurate information is corrected swiftly in this group thankfully. but punkin doesnt thank me wuts up wit dat but punkins bad information that will pass without a murmur. nobody wants to shatter little punkins confidence because hes in the inner circle here hes a buddy! ive not read any inaccurate information posted by larry. good strategy there crag just skip punkins junk. yeah. as i said in my prior post i dont read every single post by every single person. in my experience his advice has been accurate thus far. regarding being a buddy ... im not here to make friends. im here to exchange information about dodge trucks. larry is a regular so is roy tom l nosey and others. their guidence has saved me lots and lots of money over the past few years. so to get to your point yes i trust what they have to say and usually give them more credit than snotard or any other drive-by poster. tom l does good expertly walks you through the whole process. he should write repair manuals for someone like haynes or chiltons. you next next itll be someone else. its all entertaining. indeed. i had many laughs last week reading your posts. pretty strange of you then crag seeing as how you skip all of punkins. i didnt misunderstand his intentions. theres more he likes to humiliate someone over poor spelling when theres nothing else to go after. thats where i got involved. ive only seen him do this to snotard. as i said before ... he deserves it. hek ya wair wud we b widdowt ar spellur nazi ta handl da rifraf. except for relays i guess. got an elusive overnight battery drain well larry-the-troubleshooter wants you to check for open relays. i dont know enough about electronics to say whether this is inaccurate or not. why dont you debate it with larry its ez. even for you crag. its nuthin but a switch. on = close the switch that means the wires touch! off = open the switch that means the wires dont! some guy kar buys a used 2001 dodge truck doesnt have the owners manual yet comes here asking whats the correct oil for his engine. so punkin proceeds to tell him that golly he used to use 10w-40 once-upon-a-time somewhere in some unidentified vehicle he uses 10w-40 or 10w-50 now in arizona in some other unidentified truck and in his bike he uses royal purple etc. all sorts of utterly worthless crap. i have found that discussions about oil are highly opinionated. some swear by one thing like royal purple while others dismiss it as a gay purple bottle. but punkin is a probably trendy guy. snake oil. i did not catch the discussion that larry had about oil. in all likelihood you are misrepresenting the context of the discussion. as i said before i tend to trust certain members more than others. you should actually start reading before you decide where to place your trust crag. or is it really about male bonding for you that after all is where the a.a.d.t. group is evolving. i quote exactly what my 2001 owners manual says and punkin declares that the oil weight recommendations in dodge owners manuals are only recommendations! there to be disregarded. i think you meant theyre not there. you deserved that. nope crag i meant it precisely as i wrote it. sentence fragment and all. larry has an opinion that differs from the manual probably because of the extreme climate he lives in. apparently the oil he is using serves him well. no harm no foul. but crag i also described exactly what the chart on the same page illustrated. from waaay below zero to well past 100 degrees off the chart in both directions in fact and punkins opinion isnt there. id spend the effort to google the thread and post a tinyurl link except it would make no difference to you anyway. really! dont tire yourself crag drop out at any time. youll be ignored by everyone soon. especially now that we have tried soon never comes though. look at roy hes still trying after flopping around for 2 months now and hes announced repeatedly that hes done with me. to reason with you and you still make excuses for being an asshole. im making no excuses. yes i am being an asshole. i already told you and it didnt register in your puny head. its still there my own admission about 10 lines down. ill frame it for you this time. 2 *you* have added nothing of value to this group. false. oh thats right i forgot about the valuable grammar lessons. you didnt both

From : Annonymous

on tue 22 may 2007 041019 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote skippy craig c. wrote on may 20 316 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote seriously craig! thats part of the issue ... youre too serious about the wrong things. be serious about false information that can damage peoples cars and budgets. *that* is serious and *that* is what your friend snotard is guilty of. i dont coddle men. by your own admission you do. when the any mis info that larry or anybody else rises to the level of the mind numbing crap the idiot puts out let me know. surpassed it already. i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. the punk as you put it around here is you. i already said as much. thats the whole point the whole point. actually im the counterpunk. not nearly as big an inner circle as you punks got just me i guess but i do the best i can. and speaking of the point the whole point as i have said before your best is pretty weak. you hop into something that has been going on for months in a number of groups. now you think the world is going to revolve around you and what you decide is right or proper you think this open worldwide public access unmoderated group revolves around you the ng according to the crotch cannibal ive a hint for ya it isnt going to happen so far you have managed to alienate just about everybody that reads this. we dont know that. we do know that the regulars that want this open worldwide public access unmoderated group as their privately managed social club arent so happy about the change of events. lots of lurkers though probably lots that dont post here for fear of making a mistake and being mugged for it. i dont see anybnody shouting ya your right go getem. just the opposite most have asked ya kockit off. do ya think there might be a message there probably not as you fancy yourself as the new sherrif. maybe we should take a poll start a new thread for that. so by all means you do what ya want and im sure folks will act accordingly. let me know when you decide to get started. yawn everybody here can come up with a cute little sig. do ya want to see some i mean fair is fair. you have no idea how absolutly nasty this group can meek bunch of creampuffs. get. but it is totally up to you. oh fyi that trace program is available. the one that was used on dd that printed out a map and located his house i dial into a modem bank shared by many isps across many cities. kinda sucks wish there was dsl here. and complete address. you are aware of dd arent ya you havnt reached that level yet but you very well could. dont consrtrue any of this as a threat it isnt just pointing out that we have played these silly little kid games before. oh we have won. ok you won silly little kid games. so as i said before do what ya gotta do. i left the spelling errors so you would have something to bitch about too numerous and who really cares anyway i usually - almost always - let the sloppy writing go. and when i do decide to correct errors its to fix things up not to heap ridicule on anybody. oh except when a punk makes an issue of them then theres an invitation. .

From : Annonymous

on tue 22 may 2007 041144 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote on sun 20 may 2007 214828 -0700 beryl terrapin@coolbits.net wrote thedumbguy on 20 may 2007 121616 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on may 20 116 am beryl terra...@coolbits.net wrote sheryl wrote craig c. wrote now your responses are solely pointed at larry. you want him real bad dont you queeny its been jolly fun battering him. hes enjoyed dishing it out for a long time. so now craig be serious for once why are you defending a liar in this blow out thread seriously craig! why all the coddling of larry i see him as an abusive punk whos been asking to have his nose rubbed in shit for quite a while. a couple or three months ago his time came. should i quit maybe. tell me why. seriously sheryl you have some very significant emotional problems. lets review the history in a tad more accurate manner. you came charging into this ng to protect the honor of the one known as snotroll. you and your alter ego steve the boob were under a very mistaken impression. you actually thought that you meant shit to something. you first tried to blow off roy but you couldnt. then you tried to compete with me and finally had to killfile me one of you did anyway--its so hard to keep your two personalities seperate because you couldnt compete. then you went after larry. larrys only mistake was being dignified enough bwaahaahaa! please dumbguy im stopping right here. i wont even finish reading your post. oh but you know that you did sheryl. you did you had no answer so you are going to pretend like you didnt. how sad. honest didnt really i swear. still havent. you bet sheryl. now click your heels together and you will go back home. to actually try to ask you what had crawled up your ass and died. he was actually the only one who gave even a small rip about what you thought or said. no one else here does. so lets see. larry tried to find out what was bothering you and you blew an o-ring at him. everyone else still pitches shit on snotroll when he posts his mind numbing bs. you never slowed that one bit. you have convinced everyone here that you are are an assclown as well as an incredible moron. you make yourself look like a fool. yeah you really rubbed his nose in shit. geez sheryl.......i mean look girl you have no sense of perspective at all. you are a moron. but never the less dont go away please you have been fun. .

From : craig c

beryl wrote but punkin doesnt thank me wuts up wit dat your approach perhaps youre wrong and hes correct and he lacks the desire to argue with you any further just a guess. good strategy there crag just skip punkins junk. yeah. as i stated before i dont read every thread. if larry has made glaring errors i havent seen them. the threads i have read by larry and roy are informative and accurate. tom l does good expertly walks you through the whole process. he should write repair manuals for someone like haynes or chiltons. i agree. i dont know enough about electronics to say whether this is inaccurate or not. why dont you debate it with larry its ez. even for you crag. its nuthin but a switch. debate the problem with larry because i dont give a fuck about relays. you should actually start reading before you decide where to place your trust crag. or is it really about male bonding for you that after all is where the a.a.d.t. group is evolving. oh obviously. is that why i exchanged posts about automotive maintenance all weekend so that i could bond with tom and chris chart in both directions in fact and punkins opinion isnt there. id spend the effort to google the thread and post a tinyurl link except it would make no difference to you anyway. correct. that subject does not interest me. i use valvoline premium blue extreme synthetic 5w-40. made by cummins for a cummins. discussions about royal purple are of no concern to me. i know many people that use it and swear by it. personally i prefer to stick with what cummins recommends. soon never comes though. look at roy hes still trying after flopping around for 2 months now and hes announced repeatedly that hes done with me. thats between you and roy. concerning our discussion this will be my final attempt to reason with you. it makes sense but im not going to spoon feed you crag. no need ... i have a woman that does that. when something like that aint broke you dont spend your money yet to fix it. punkins advice was based on nothing no information about std vs. hd alternator outputs nothing about battery sizes or how many of them about how many lights or other things in the little popup trailer nothing. my recommendation is to get a generator. a new toy. i didnt tell you what you wanted to hear. i had that same problem with my ex-wife. you probably never got to know her crag. you dont pay much attention to anything happening around you. i got to know the one part of her that was worth a fuck. then i dismissed her. now im dismissing you. craig c. .

From : Annonymous

when they wear they wear around the input shaft and creat more room for the shaft. i dont know what type he has but i think that the bearing or bushing were it become so hot as to expand and clamp the input shaft it would break up. ive never seen or heard of that happening. not to say it hasnt just never seen it. thinking for a second the clutch spins at the same rpm as engine and rides on the same input shaft. if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

on may 17 1020 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is in fact correct and nowhere did he say to over inflate anything. i do not keep my tires at maximum pressure as there is no need to and unlike car tires most lt tires can safely be run below max listed pressure especially when not carying their full rated load. hmmm the tires on the charger are rated max at 51 psi. max load 1709 care to guess what the recomended pressure is heres that semi word againg m/t .

From : tbone

on may 17 1020 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. example nascar underinflates tires during a pit stop because they know that it will increase as they get hot. while true they do not do this just to avoid exceeding max cold pressure as im sure that you know so what exactly does this have to do with the thread in general. . by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 that is not what he said. per his very first post this is exactly what he said read the damn thing before you start sound more like barrel! actually its not. that is just what you took it to mean. his exact words were in his first post were that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. this is in fact correct and nowhere did he say to over inflate anything. i do not keep my tires at maximum pressure as there is no need to and unlike car tires most lt tires can safely be run below max listed pressure especially when not carying their full rated load. in my case i could easily increase pressure for long high speed runs without exceeding the sidewall max pressure and in fact do just that. as per typical snojob tactic when he got called on a statement he chaged it but you would have seen that if you had read it just as you say that roy and i need to. funny though you didnt. lol get real larry. he was hardly called on anything. roy asked what would you suggest for a tire pressure now while this may have been sarcastic i will attribute it to roy being back into car tire mode where the listed pressure is pretty much where it needs to be. this is not the case for a lt tire where the load range can be quite large and as such the pressure required within the tire to properly support that load can also vary greatly. the difference here larry is that i actually read what he wrote without the need to prove him wrong at all costs like you seem to have. where exactly did he change what he said all he did was clarify what he said previously by adding a percentage of increase and a limitation on when to actually do it. first you guys whine when he ignores comments and now you whine again when he replies and either clarifies or corrects what he said. make up your fucking minds already. i wonder just what the ap in the tires would have been at the time of the blow out had i followed this logic never mind the fact that it was over 100 out side and the road was prob close to 150. i would be willing to bet that i would not have been as lucky as i was had i followed your recommendations a blowout is a blowout so what real difference would 6.5 lbs have made i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. thanks fuck nuts. if you and roy for that matter actually bothered to read what he said you would have seen just as i did that he did say not to exceed maximum rated cold pressure. his actual statement was it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire and he was the one to put the limitation in parentheses so he didnt say to crank up the pressure to dangerous limits. if you are going to attack the guy at least wait until he gets it wrong or the only one looking like a fool is the one making the attack. first off tbone you need to go back and read the entire damn thread actually larry you need to read what he wrote in both posts and take your bias against him out of it. this is not the statement that made in his very first post in the thread these statement were made after roy got on him. im not going to get into a long winded debate with you on this as that would be pointless. i know this because i was the same way with a few people in the past and when others would tell me i was wrong it just went in one ear and out the other just like it will do with you. while snowball has given out some bad information so have you and i doubt that you did it on purpose or with the intent to harm anyone. when he or anyone else gives out information that is actually wrong the best course of action is to post a correction and if you are not sure then question it like roy did at least this way everyone learns something or at least has some fun debating the issue. doing what you are doing can and will backfire on you and make you the one nobod

From : Annonymous

lol! i guess that the problem was in the hydraulics but the symptoms that he described did not look that way. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i doubt your clutch is to blame due to mileage but stranger things have happened. another thing for you to consider is that the 5spd is known to have a problem with the 5th gear nut backing off. essentially this means the nut that holds the 5th gear on its shaft loosens until it makes problems. there is a fix for this where they made the splines and thread longer on the shaft. there is a replacement shaft that is the fix. -- max id go straight to the hydraulic clutch set up and see if its working right. sounds like the clutch is not disengaging. al nice call al !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if that were the case then how would he be able to stop carefully .

From : tbone

on tue 22 may 2007 130403 -0400 tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on may 17 1020 am tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving let me see if i am following this conviluted way of thinking. as a tire gets hot we know that the a.p increases. this fact is proven in all forms of auto racing. example nascar underinflates tires during a pit stop because they know that it will increase as they get hot. while true they do not do this just to avoid exceeding max cold pressure as im sure that you know so what exactly does this have to do with the thread in general. . by your logic though contrary to all reputable sources i should have actually inflated my tires to 71.5 psi some 6.5 pounds more than the maximum recommended cold psi of 65 that is not what he said. per his very first post this is exactly what he said read the damn thing before you start sound more like barrel! actually its not. that is just what you took it to mean. his exact words were in his first post were that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. this is in fact correct and nowhere did he say to over inflate anything. i do not keep my tires at maximum pressure as there is no need to and unlike car tires most lt tires can safely be run below max listed pressure especially when not carying their full rated load. in my case i could easily increase pressure for long high speed runs without exceeding the sidewall max pressure and in fact do just that. as per typical snojob tactic when he got called on a statement he chaged it but you would have seen that if you had read it just as you say that roy and i need to. funny though you didnt. lol get real larry. he was hardly called on anything. roy asked what would you suggest for a tire pressure now while this may have been sarcastic i will attribute it to roy being back into car tire mode where the listed pressure is pretty much where it needs to be. this is not the case for a lt tire where the load range can be quite large and as such the pressure required within the tire to properly support that load can also vary greatly. the difference here larry is that i actually read what he wrote without the need to prove him wrong at all costs like you seem to have. where exactly did he change what he said all he did was clarify what he said previously by adding a percentage of increase and a limitation on when to actually do it. first you guys whine when he ignores comments and now you whine again when he replies and either clarifies or corrects what he said. make up your fucking minds already. i wonder just what the ap in the tires would have been at the time of the blow out had i followed this logic never mind the fact that it was over 100 out side and the road was prob close to 150. i would be willing to bet that i would not have been as lucky as i was had i followed your recommendations a blowout is a blowout so what real difference would 6.5 lbs have made i think we have yet another perfect example of information being given out by snoman that is extremely dangerous and in this case could cost someone their life. thanks fuck nuts. if you and roy for that matter actually bothered to read what he said you would have seen just as i did that he did say not to exceed maximum rated cold pressure. his actual statement was it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire and he was the one to put the limitation in parentheses so he didnt say to crank up the pressure to dangerous limits. if you are going to attack the guy at least wait until he gets it wrong or the only one looking like a fool is the one making the attack. first off tbone you need to go back and read the entire damn thread actually larry you need to read what he wrote in both posts and take your bias against him out of it. this is not the statement that made in his very first post in the thread these statement were made after roy got on him. im not going to get into a long winded debate with you on this as that would be pointless. little late for that. you pretty much already did. i know this because i was the same way with a few people in the past and when others would tell me i was wrong it just went in one ear and out the other just like it will do with you. while snowball has given out some bad information so have you and i doubt that you did it on purpose or with the intent to harm anyone. when he or anyone else gives out information that is actually wrong the best course of action is to post a correction and if you are not sure then question it like roy did at least this way everyone learns something or

From : roy

on wed 23 may 2007 111108 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on wed 23 may 2007 093151 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote talked my wife into putting the house in ma on the market. of course she put conditions. if it doesnt sell in 65 days which will allow her to give proper notice at her teaching job it comes off the market until next year. which may or may not be a bad thing. so if anybody is looking or relocating i may have what you are looking for. oh i also have a number of ma compliant hand guns for sale. you thinking you wont need any in florida not sure about that. no thats not it at all. ma is so restrictive that a number of makers will not develop a gun and jump through all the hoops that ma requires. a double stack cant be bought here. fl has no restrictions thus a wider selection of guns to choose from ooh. that sounds like fun! geez how unfair is this you get retirement....you get to buy new guns.....and what do i get sheryl in the ng. i realize no one promised me a bed of roses but that sux. .

From : beryl

nell terrapin@coolbits.net wrote nell this isnt about me bberryll this is about your erroneous assumption that the isolation relay would not isolate the batteries when parked. unless the key is turned to the acc. position isolation while parked is so obvious its a given nell. ... the $2000 question has to be; why did it take stumbling sheryl 4 days to get around to stating that it was obvious all along you know what nell this is real funny and i mean *real* funny! i just went back to check the dates between my reply to al and the time you asked about any advantage of one way over the other and i found this... the only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicles engine is running via the now energized isolation relay -and- the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged. that was you stupid ass idiot! you wrote that 2 days after my reply to al then it was another day before you finally figured out that simply turning the key to acc. would connect the batteries! instead of babbling on about according to you there is no circuit. and now youre still lying about that nell i always maintained that there are many circuits not just this circuit. since this is now the second time that you attribute there is no circuit to me point it out. you need to either do it or admit youre lying. ill call you a deliberate liar at this point. prove me wrong. youre describing something entirely different and since shes -not- smarter than a fifth grader lets let stumbling sheryl jump to the $10000 question; why is she so desperate now after 4 days to seek redemption from her original gaff when she could have done it much much earlier give it up fool. were going to talk about you not understanding that turning als key to acc. would connect the batteries. i knew that may 17 when i answered him. but since i didnt say anything about it it took you *three more days* to figure it out. explain why. -- this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. -- punkin .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 125434 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven great answer. really insightful. i was curious as to what his answer would be. as usual he does a drive by with a vague answer and his usual stroll through memory lane .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 125434 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven great answer. really insightful. i was curious as to what his answer would be. as usual he does a drive by with a vague answer and his usual stroll through memory lane screw it! im going to beach for swim and watch the ladies! .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. how do you know what i do or dont know heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. so if the tire calls for 32 pounds youd increase it 10% to 351/2 pounds cold. now that tire will increase how many degrees given the heat build up and the heat of the pavement use a m/t car so load wont factor. in nearly 40 years of driving your point .

From : roy

on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. how do you know what i do or dont know heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. so if the tire calls for 32 pounds youd increase it 10% to 351/2 pounds cold. now that tire will increase how many degrees given the heat build up and the heat of the pavement use a m/t car so load wont factor. sorry that should be pounds not degrees in nearly 40 years of driving your point .

From : Annonymous

on wed 16 may 2007 170611 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 143051 gmt theguy@whatever.net wrote on wed 16 may 2007 125434 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven great answer. really insightful. real troll like responce here... .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. yes and not knowing anything is an area that you are indeed an expert on. you must be really threatened by the concept that someone can know a lot especailly since you know so little you do not understand how someone could indeed be so well schooled it is called college and experiance eduction and i did r&d work for many years. whew! now that was a stinky run on sentence. you should be very happy that sheryl/steve the boob/comboverboy has taken a liking to you or you would be in big trouble. as far as someone knowing a lot.........that would be a subject that you are not vry familiar with. btw if you ever use a gps if you are smart enough to use one i worked on the tail end of the prototype test project for it nearly 30 years ago and a could write you a book about how it actually works even today from memory. the theory is actually pretty simple in concept if you understand the basic principles envolved but is was a sob to implement in hardware for many years. unlike you i come here to spread knowledge without strings or ego concerns because you cannot take it with you. this has got to be a real conflict for a insecure person like yourself. you should embrace knowledge not reject it just because you do not like the source of it. heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. in nearly 40 years of driving i have never had a tire on my cars come apart but i have had a few bias ply trailer tires years ago loose their rubber on a hot day at high speed. nice thing about a bias ply tire though is usually when you loose the rubber the tire still holds air so you can stop because the side walls plys are just as strong as tread unlike radial which tends to completely self destruct when there is a major seperation because sidewalls are weak and thin. ----------------- thesnoman.com ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : Annonymous

on wed 16 may 2007 125434 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on wed 16 may 2007 082617 -0400 roy roy@fhome.net wrote on 15 may 2007 201011 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote checked the air pressure in all four this morning before head off to work. that would depend on what pressure was to begin with. also you generally increase tire pressure for extened high speed driving. what would you suggest for a tire pressure that would depend on vehicle and tires size and load on them and how it is driven great answer. really insightful. .many do not run enough pressure in tires and over time tire flex can heat tire and weaken it and cause sudden failure. 99% or the time barring so you think that the tread jumping off the caseing is caused by heat brought about by underinflation yep you would too if you knew anything. yes and not knowing anything is an area that you are indeed an expert on. heat breaking down the bonding in tires between belts on rubber and it can get to point were it will suddenly fail. this is not to say that they cannot fail from bad design but failure like this are almost always the result of heat tire pressure speed and load. the dead give away here is that it blew while cruising at 75 mph. it has long been a normal rule to increase cold tire pressure by about 10% or more for extened high speed driving up to cold pressure limits of tire i have seen some panic when there hot tp is above tire ratings but when they rate the cold prssure of tire they know pressure will increase as tire heats up so hot pressure is not used to set pressure though some do. in nearly 40 years of driving i have never had a tire on my cars come apart but i have had a few bias ply trailer tires years ago loose their rubber on a hot day at high speed. nice thing about a bias ply tire though is usually when you loose the rubber the tire still holds air so you can stop because the side walls plys are just as strong as tread unlike radial which tends to completely self destruct when there is a major seperation because sidewalls are weak and thin. ----------------- thesnoman.com .