OT- Aussie Gun control
From : budd cochran
Q: hhmm...and where do we think the big oil companies will get those fees etc refunded from us...the consumer as a result of even higher fuel prices. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i just heard on the that the price of oil has fallen 35% since july! i really havent tracked it all that well but it doesnt seem to me that the price at the pumps have fallen 35%. now keep in mind that the oil companies were awfully quick to raise the price at the pumps--a few times when the price of a barrel of oil went up the pump price went up that same day in response even though the price of the gas you were buying wasnt included in the per barrel jump. now if bush wants to know what to do to get his ratings back...........well for my part he could kick the big oil companies ass a little. that would make me like him a whole lot more! he will not betray his owners especially when he will out of office soon and wants that money. never fear pelosi to the rescue! this will help lower gas prices! http//.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070117/apongoco/congress100hours energy legislation that imposes billions in fees taxes and royalties on oil and gas companies and uses the money to promote renewable fuels. .
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From : rm v2 0
two subjects!! curious after reading the gun control thread. how many of you are legally licensed to carry a concealed hand gun not to transport but to carry concealed it anywhere the law allows. not yet but i am going to apply for it soon. i should not have any issue getting the license either. on yet another side note in kennesaw ga they require every household to own a gun and have ammo for it. and guess what......crime has dropped since the law went into effect. see............ http//www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms/laws/us/require.html quoted text if gun-owning is so dangerous and such a cause of social ills then surely the most dangerous place in america -- if not the entire planet -- must be kennesaw georgia where since 1982 a law has required every household to have a firearm and ammunition. conscientious objectors are excluded. right wrong. there has not been a single reported crime of domestic violence in kennesaw since the law was passed. there have been no injuries to children involving guns since the law was passed. furthermore violence has actually dropped since 1982. burglaries per thousand inhabitants fell from 11 to less than 3. there hasnt been a single murder since 1986. all this despite the fact that the population in kennesaw doubled in that time. could it be -- gasp! -- that gun ownership might have positive not negative effects that the whole premise behind gun banning is totally wrong that other factors besides guns might be the real cause of fulton countys crime problems end -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .
From : jmc
tbone wrote as for the democrats restrictions what a load of crap. they will not build more because that would cause the price to drop and they know it. your political bias is showing again. in 6 states oil companies have had requests to build refineries for years. in arizona after 14 years they finally got the approval to build one of the 3 requested. this one will probably be completed in about 6-8 years. its the only one approved in the entire nation. .
From : thystle
suddenly without warning thystle exclaimed 19-jan-07 346 pm john kunkel wrote budd cochran wrote i wont try claim to be able to verify the facts of this but it does ... before following the forward tgo everyone command read this http//www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp snopes australia-wide homicides are up 3.2 percent budd australia-wide homicides are up 6.2 percent snopes australia-wide assaults are up 8.6 percent budd australia-wide assaults are up 9.6 percent and this bit which is arguably more important the main point to be learned here is that determining the effect of changes in australias gun ownership laws and the governments firearm buy-back program on crime rates requires a complex long-term analysis and cant be discerned from the small mixed grab bag of short-term statistics offered here. and no matter what the outcome of that analysis the results arent necessarily applicable to the usa where laws regarding gun ownership are and always have been much different than those in australia. jmc .
From : budd cochran
dirk was on the west coast when he got the call. an old friend at the toronto police department thought he would like to fly up and take a look at a homicide which had occurred the previous evening. he decided to skip the last day at the world holistics conference and take the next plane out of san francisco. the flight was bad; dirk had been hit on the back of the head by the paper trolley the drinks trolley the dinner trolley and now the gift trolley. when the hostesses werent trying to tear his arm off they pestered him to stop leaning into the aisle - ignoring the fact that the guy next to him was taking up one and a half seats. air canada used to be the flight which was so good you just didnt wanna get off - on this occasion dirk would be glad to see the back of the plane and the over sized alternative comedian wedged into the window seat. after breathing in a couple of lungfulls of crisp canadian air dirk took a taxi into town. there was a small group of demonstrators outside the macdonalds and the taxi driver insisted on stopping on the opposite side of the street. dont eat meat the placards read and the demonstrators chanted. a couple of policemen where stopping the crowd entering the restaurant itself - one held up his arm and challenged dirk. a wave of the fax he had been sent and the policeman pushed open the door. there were f
From : azwiley1
im sorry i saw this and there was absolutely no way i could pass up the chance! http//www.break.com/pictures/jan17gal6.html .
From : geekboy
after congress did a weapons bann some years ago in dc crime has sky rocketed and become the murder captiol of the us. yeah but dcs coke problem is going down a gram at a time thanks to the mayor! .
From : roy
from iain@xxxxx.demon.co.uk iain l m hotchkies groups uk.miscuk.legaluk.politicsuk.mediasoc.culture.british subject corley faq v0.1 reply-to iain@xxxxx.demon.co.uk date sat may 4 193034 1996 mike corley faq version 0.1 first edition 5th may 1996 last updated 5th may 1996 iain l m hotchkies iain@xxxxx.demon.co.uk mike corley is a net personality who has been active on the following groups uk.miscuk.legaluk.politicsuk.mediasoc.culture.british since.... well at least as far back as the summer of 1995. he posts long tracts the tone of which approximates that which one might expect from a reasonably intelligent paranoid schizophrenic. no details are known of mikes real personal life or background. once would presume that he came from a reasonable family and was reasonably well educated before the first symptoms of schizophrenia began. schizophrenia clinical features from the oxford textbook of psychiatry 2nd edition the acute syndrome some of the main clinical features are illustrated by a short description of a patient. a previously healthy 20-year-old male student had been behaving in an increasingly odd way. at times he appeared angry and told his friends that he was being persecuted; at other times he was seen to be laughing to himself for no apparent reason. for several months he had seemed increasingly preoccupied with his own thoughts. his academic work had deteriorated. when interviewed he was restless and awkward. he described hearing voices commenting on his actions and abusing him. he said he believed that the police had conspired with his university teachers to harm his brain with poisonous gases and take away his thoughts. he also believed that other people could read his thoughts. this case history illustrates the following common features of acute schizophrenia prominent persecutory ideas with accompanying hallucinations; gradual social withdrawal and impaired performance at work; and the odd idea that other people can read ones thoughts. in appearance and behaviour some patients with acute schizophrenia are entirely normal. others seem awkward in their social behaviour preoccupied and withdrawn or otherwise odd. some patients smile or laugh without obvious reason. some appear to be constantly perplexed. some are restless and noisy or show sudden and unexpected changes of behaviour. others retire from company spending a long time in their rooms perhaps lying immobile on the bed apparently preoccupied in thought. the speech often reflects an underlying thought disorder. in the early stages there is vagueness in the patients talk that makes it difficult to grasp his meaning. some patients have difficulty in dealing with abstract ideas a phenomenon called concrete thinking. other patients become preoccupied with vague pseudoscientific or mystical ideas. when the disturbance is more severe two characteristic kinds of abnormality may occur. disorders of the stream of thought include pressure of thought poverty of thought and thought blocking. thought withdrawal the conviction that ones thoughts have been taken away is sometimes classified as a disorder of the stream of thought but it is more usefully considered as a form of delusion. loosening of association denotes a lack of connection between ideas. this may be detected in illogical thinking knights move or talking past the point vorbeireden. in the severest form of loosening the structure and coherence of thinking is lost so that utterances are jumbled word salad or verbigeration. some patients use ordinary words in unusual ways paraphrasias or metonyms and a few coin new words neologisms. abnormalities of mood are common and of three main kinds. first there may be sustained abnormalities of mood such as anxiety depression irritability or euphoria. secondly there may be blunting of affect sometimes known as flattening of affect. essentially this is sustained emotional indifference or diminution of emotional response. thirdly there is incongruity of affect. here the emotion is not necessarily diminished but it is not in keeping with the mood that would ordinarily be expected. for example a patient may laugh when told about a bereavement. this third abnormality is often said to be highly characteristic of schizophrenia but different interviewers often disagree about its presence. auditory hallucinations are among the most frequent symptoms. they may take the form of noises music single words brief phrases or whole conversations. they may be unobtrusive or so severe as to cause great distress. some voices seem to give commands to the patient. some patients hear their own thoughts apparently spoken out loud either as they think them gedankenlautwerden or immediately afterwards echo de la pensee. some voices seem to discuss the patient in the third person. others comment on his actions. as described later these last three symptoms hav
From : tbone
i hope w does something to keep the price of california produce under contol because of the freeze they supposedly suffered... shees the president no more controls the weather than he controls the price of oil. lol wrong and we are talking about the price of gasoline which he can have influence over especially with the drastic drop in oil prices. have you forgotten about the organization of petroleum exporting countries opec from whom we import most of the oil we use on a daily basis when ever the price of oil drops opec reduces production in order to artificially drive the price up. possibly but it hasnt happened yet and the price of oil is very low and yet the price of gas has not moved all that much to the down side. i heard today that they are planning to do just that because crude oil has hit $51/barrel. im sure that they are as they dont want to give away their only resource but it still hasnt happened yet. oh lets not forget that not a single new refinery has been built in the us since the 70s and the formulations required by the epa and various states has become more complex hence more expensive to produce yet the evil oil companies have been able to increase the amount of refined products in the pipelines. damn right they have with the outrageous profits they are making from it. no new refineries have been built by the oil companies choice as increased availability results in lower prices. also china is the largest growing ecomony on the planet and their thirst is insatiable. bullshit. hell they tried to buy unical! luckily chevron saved our oil consuming interests. i wish all you liberal finger pointers could live in the world you create and let us realistic people live in ours but unfortunately our worlds are the same. lol get real. do you work for the oil companies the facts remain that if anything happens or even the risk of something happening the prices shoot up that second but when the risks subside the price never returns back to where it was and takes forever to come down much at all. why is that mr. real world why dont you demand energy price control that may keep the price of energy down but there will be so little of it only the privilaged few - politicians most likely - will be able to buy it. more complete crap. as long as they are making a profit they will continue to sell it despite your lame fear tactics. now that ive had my rant you may respond as best as you may and i will do my best to educate you. i think that you need to do some learning yourself. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : jmc
theguy@whatever.net wrote regular unleaded here in atlanta just went under $2 a gallon. diesel is still $2.35-$2.65. unless diesel prices fall below $1.75 im going to keep making my own fuel. -- ken you need to move to powersville ken. 87 octane is at 1.87 diesel is at 2.24 and for the past few days the prices have fallen a few cents a day i hope it keeps up 0.88 a gal for diesel sounds good to me = *sigh* -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .
From : booted cat
i recommend this short movie mocking kim jong il and his secret agent buying hennessy xo wine from chinese black market = http//www.youtube.com/viewplaylistp=ee52d9ed01495685 .
From : booted cat
i have a dodge ram 2500 automatic. i wanted to know will a viper 1998 engine bolt up to my existing tranny or what mods will i have to do its 4x4 .
From : napalmheart
most serious shooters dont comment on that kind of thing on an open forum. the political wind is in the wrong corner. curious where do you see the problem if it is legal. i know two serious shooter who have already commented. hey roy is it you that has the ar myself and a couple of others. just curious as to what prompted you to buy one a bunch of people i work with were on me to join a club and go shooting with them. they all hunt and have rifles i didnt. so i read a bit listened to them some one of them had one and let me use it. after about 5 rounds it all sort of came rushing back. not sure if that is good or bad.g anyway i was real comfortable with it i know it real well also it is short money to buy ammo for. i went with the bushmaster it will fire a .223 or 5.56 round. i added a scope and a bi-pod to it to sorta reach out a bit. look here www.bushmaster.com i had given it some thought but never really cared for the m-16s when i was in. i wasnt overly thrilled with them years ago. i had one of the early ones jam about got me killed. now there isnt that problem either way. ive put well over 4k rounds through mine without any trouble. .
From : jmc
on fri 19 jan 2007 153043 -0500 leroy dodgemanfromhell@aol.com wrote on fri 19 jan 2007 115020 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote two subjects!! curious after reading the gun control thread. how many of you are legally licensed to carry a concealed hand gun not to transport but to carry concealed it anywhere the law allows. colts vs. pats! after last weeks game with the chargers like them or hate them the pats never quit. hell the chargers had advertised the parade route they would use after winning the sb. talk about arrogance... after the rabbit betting and losing let me gloat for a minute before dinner drinks dinner desert after dinner drinks the tip and probably his mind he has finally hauled his fat ass onto the pats wagon. im sure we can get him to move in a bit to make room for a few more if ya care to jump on the wagon. anyway it should be a hell of a game. gbmfg roy i took the c/w training with intention of getting it. but the instructor said that the fees to be legal are greater than the fine - for a first-time offense in nc. so i dropped the idea of being legal. leroy thats stupid oof nc but i would still rather be legal with c/w. if you ever gotta use it the liability alone would be huge. thats for sure! if you have to use it make damn sure you cancel his ticket. only one story at your trial. .
From : budd cochran
theguy@whatever.net wrote i just heard on the that the price of oil has fallen 35% since july! i really havent tracked it all that well but it doesnt seem to me that the price at the pumps have fallen 35%. regular unleaded here in atlanta just went under $2 a gallon. diesel is still $2.35-$2.65. unless diesel prices fall below $1.75 im going to keep making my own fuel. -- ken .
From : roy
i ment to say i had the cad cut out not the carb... on jan 18 1145 am rigby rigsr...@gmail.com wrote just bought this a couple months ago i am not to knowledgeable about cars but i will do my best to describle the problems i am having. the truck runs fine it just when i really romp on the gas that i feel a decress in horse power. it doesnt happen all the time its random. it maxes out at about 65 it feels like there could be back presure but i had the carb cut out today and i still have the problem. i have put new cap router new plug wires and plugs i checked out the carb and that looks in really great condition. any help would be great. if you need more information just let me know and i will do my best. thanks!!! .
From : john kunkel
just bought this a couple months ago i am not to knowledgeable about cars but i will do my best to describle the problems i am having. the truck runs fine it just when i really romp on the gas that i feel a decress in horse power. it doesnt happen all the time its random. it maxes out at about 65 it feels like there could be back presure but i had the carb cut out today and i still have the problem. i have put new cap router new plug wires and plugs i checked out the carb and that looks in really great condition. any help would be great. if you need more information just let me know and i will do my best. thanks!!! .
From : jmc
tbone wrote lol wrong and we are talking about the price of gasoline which he can have influence over especially with the drastic drop in oil prices. what secret power does the president have over the cost of gasoline at the pumps .
From : stormin mormon
occur to anyone that the real goal of gun control might not be about reducing crime thats well known i believe. governments get afraid when the populace can resist. unfortunately the american sheeple wouldnt resist but they dont want to take that chance. libs need victims to feed their coffers and eliminating lawful gun owners increases vicitm counts therefore increasing their span of control. .