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From : denny
Q: bryan swadener wrote also both are ...the american people are now conditioned to front-wheel drive and its superior handling in snow and ice... fwd gained popularity with automobile manufacturers due to ease of cheaper design and manufacturing; madison avenue sold it to america. it isnt better -- its just a *different* can of worms. just my observation and experience. a fwd vehicle certainly isnt easier to design or cheaper to build is it stuffing transmission and engine together then somehow bending drivetrain to the front wheels as well as addition of cv joints doesnt seem cheaper to me. i think he meant that it was easier to meet design criteria that stipulated in the late 70s that newer cars would have similar interior dimensions w/ much smaller exterior dimensions. with fwd packaging this was accomplished by removing the transmission hump and differential which was exemplified in the hatchbacks that were common then. the cars were also much lighter w/ smaller driveshafts and smaller differential. and fwd vehicles *do* have better winter traction. at least better than what the vehicle would have if the drive wheels were astern. whether that traction is good enough or not is another issue. i used to have a rwd car w/ posi and studded snow tires not all-season. id put that car up against any common fwd car in snowy/icy conditions. ;- and if the driver of the fwd car had any skill at all you would lose. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
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From : redneck tookover hell
on sun 01 feb 2004 162730 gmt mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote on sun 01 feb 2004 015718 gmt ken shearer331@earthlink.net wrote i will check on that tomorrow. incidentally how much damage will incur if this was run like this. i have no clue how long it has been since whatever happened happened. you do not want to run it like that.. when you mix oil & water the oil cant be an effective lubricant... what mac said. the anti-freeze part of the milk shake will score the bearings in relatively few miles 10 or 100s not 1000s and then you not only get to do a top end job to replace the probably cheap head gasket you also get to rip out and replace the entire bottom end of the engine to replace the bearings. greg .
From : roy
on sat 31 jan 2004 224430 gmt ken shearer331@earthlink.net wrote here is the situation i have a 98 4 cylinder dakota. actually my wife does. you were right the first time. since the vehicle is broken it automatically became yours until it gets fixed. read the marriage contract - its in the fine print! ;- hey hey hey - mine was defective then! ive only ever been able to get my vehicles fixed if my mate had a new toy er tool... to play with - otherwise theyre my vehicle theyre my problem. he does work on the kids truck though - and i can con him into doing my back brakes if i promise to cook something spectacular id rather have a tooth pulled than work on drum brakes...; the truck has never overheated no detrimental running issues no smoking the coolant is perfect. someone told me to watch out for a cracked head but they dont just crack for no reason. you keep saying in your follow-on posts that the truck has never overheated. there is no need for a guilt complex - this problem can occur without any signs of overheating or other problems. i spent $1200 for an overhaul based on the fact that i had water on the garage floor when i left every morning despite the fact that the car was running like a champ. blown head gasket leaking water to the outside rather than into the crankcase. greg .
From : denny
wow congrats on the mileage on that truck. i had the same rig 4 trucks ago. however my carb went south at about 110k so you did really well. did you replace the electronic spark advance on it i switched to vacuum advance at about 50k when the computer took a dive thats about the only thing it controlled back then. good luck with it! --mike i need some help/ recommendations for parts. ive got an 84 d150 custom with the slant 6 225 motor in it. it has a 3spd with od tranny. the motor has over 265 thousand miles on it and finally needs a new carb. should i just go with the holley 1945 or step up to a carter bbs ive read the carter is better but i cant find a site online that sells it or goes into detail really about what makes it better. also when i go to change the carb should i hook it back up as an electric choke or keep using the manual choke on it. its been over 10 yrs since the truck has had an electric choke. id also like to replace the clutch because its still the original one. can anyone recommend to me a company that makes a quality brand new clutch i dont want to get one thats a refab product. the truck is all original besides the brake system i just redid the entire brake system this past summer. and normal items you change at tune up time. the only thing that leaks is the power steering fluid but its done that since 86. .
From : tbone
these are in ottawa **************for sale*************** 1. 1993 mercury topaz running condition it was e-tested not sure what it needs for safety selling as is .........make an offer over $300.00 2. 1995 dodge caravan 186000kms lots of work done in last 2 years many new parts but needs much more and i cant afford it it was e-tested in 2003 selling as is.............make an offer .
From : tbone
these are in ottawa **************for sale*************** 1. 1993 mercury topaz running condition it was e-tested not sure what it needs for safety selling as is .........make an offer over $300.00 2. 1995 dodge caravan 186000kms lots of work done in last 2 years many new parts but needs more and i cant afford it it was e-tested in 2003 selling as is.............make an offer .
From : bryan swadener
i forget is this the day the season is open or the day its closed on ground hogss in ohio nerd season a truck driver hauling a tractor-trailer load of computers stops for a beer. as he approaches the bar he sees a big sign on the door saying nerds not allowed--enter at your own risk! he goes in and sits down. the bartender comes over to him sniffs says he smells kind of nerdy asks him what he does for a living. the truck driver says he drives a truck and the smell is just from the computers he is hauling. the bartender says ok truck drivers are not nerds and serves him a beer. as he is sipping his beer a skinny guy walks in with tape around his glasses a pocket protector with twelve kinds of pens and pencils and a belt at least a foot too long. the bartender without saying a word pulls out a shotgun and blows the guy away. the truck driver asks him why he did that. the bartender said not to worry the nerds are over-populating the silicon valley and are in season now. you dont even need a license he said. so the truck driver finishes his beer gets back in his truck and heads back onto the freeway. suddenly he veers to avoid an accident and the load shifts. the back door breaks open and computers spill out all over the freeway. he jumps out and sees a crowd already forming grabbing up the computers. they are all engineers accountants and programmers wearing the nerdiest clothes he has ever seen. he cant let them steal his whole load so remembering what happened in the bar he pulls out his gun and starts blasting away felling several of them instantly. a highway patrol officer comes zooming up and jumps out of the car screaming at him to stop. the truck driver said whats wrong i thought nerds were in season. well sure said the patrolman but its illegal to bait em. politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : neil nelson
all the 1971 through 1989 360 engines are pretty much the same other than emissions. around 1989 they started using hydraulic roller cams then they came out with the magnum 360. if you use a magnum 360 the ballance weights on the torque converter are different so you would have to change torque converters. the 727 loadflight is a pretty easy transmission to rebuild. if you have the transmission out most transmission shops will rebuild it carry in for under $400. if you want to rebuild it yourself have the tools and service manual a rebuild kit should be under $100. im looking for a less-used replacement for my 85 w350 360 loadflight engine. anyone know if the car version and what years will bolt in my transmission is a little iffy too - are there any that would bolt all the way back to my np-208 transfer case i only use the truck for the five-year snowstorm hauling gravel and going to the dump so remanufactured or rebuilding isnt very attractive... if it will fit i can probably buy a little old lady passensger car of that vintage for $200. .
From : denny
what the hell you leaving the group for i traded up to a real truck a few years ago and i am still here. well it is time to step up.. the dodge is gone.. picking up the 04 ford f150.. thanks for all the advise from this rss on the many woes with my dodge.. .
From : mac davis
they are on there roofs because they can take off so easily in the snow. a rwd car lets you know real quick when you are pushing it too hard in the snow and usually long before you reach speeds that you cannot possibly regain control. fwd cars tend to hide how slippery the roads are and allow you to regain control by pressing harder on the gas until you push them to speeds beyond what they can handle and then........ f l i p. i see a lot of 4x4 suvs in the ditch and not always on their wheels in the snow for the same reason and they have better traction than either fwd or rwd. im not talking about snow. dry roads. how about because they are so light in the ass push one of the smaller ones and as you get into a curve and you can feel the inside wheel unload push some more and over ya go. imho the friggin things are unbalanced as hell. dont know what the front/rear weight ratio is but 65/35 or more wouldnt surprise me at all. roy .
From : mac davis
i forget is this the day the season is open or the day its closed on ground hogss in ohio hogs are in season any day of the year in ohio its just a pain in the ass when you have to dig to get to them..... denny nerd season a truck driver hauling a tractor-trailer load of computers stops for a beer. as he approaches the bar he sees a big sign on the door saying nerds not allowed--enter at your own risk! he goes in and sits down. the bartender comes over to him sniffs says he smells kind of nerdy asks him what he does for a living. the truck driver says he drives a truck and the smell is just from the computers he is hauling. the bartender says ok truck drivers are not nerds and serves him a beer. as he is sipping his beer a skinny guy walks in with tape around his glasses a pocket protector with twelve kinds of pens and pencils and a belt at least a foot too long. the bartender without saying a word pulls out a shotgun and blows the guy away. the truck driver asks him why he did that. the bartender said not to worry the nerds are over-populating the silicon valley and are in season now. you dont even need a license he said. so the truck driver finishes his beer gets back in his truck and heads back onto the freeway. suddenly he veers to avoid an accident and the load shifts. the back door breaks open and computers spill out all over the freeway. he jumps out and sees a crowd already forming grabbing up the computers. they are all engineers accountants and programmers wearing the nerdiest clothes he has ever seen. he cant let them steal his whole load so remembering what happened in the bar he pulls out his gun and starts blasting away felling several of them instantly. a highway patrol officer comes zooming up and jumps out of the car screaming at him to stop. the truck driver said whats wrong i thought nerds were in season. well sure said the patrolman but its illegal to bait em. politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : clare snyder on ca
tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in bryan swadener wrote also both are ...the american people are now conditioned to front-wheel drive and its superior handling in snow and ice... fwd gained popularity with automobile manufacturers due to ease of cheaper design and manufacturing; madison avenue sold it to america. it isnt better -- its just a *different* can of worms. just my observation and experience. a fwd vehicle certainly isnt easier to design or cheaper to build is it stuffing transmission and engine together then somehow bending drivetrain to the front wheels as well as addition of cv joints doesnt seem cheaper to me. i think he meant that it was easier to meet design criteria that stipulated in the late 70s that newer cars would have similar interior dimensions w/ much smaller exterior dimensions. with fwd packaging this was accomplished by removing the transmission hump and differential which was exemplified in the hatchbacks that were common then. the cars were also much lighter w/ smaller driveshafts and smaller differential. and fwd vehicles *do* have better winter traction. at least better than what the vehicle would have if the drive wheels were astern. whether that traction is good enough or not is another issue. i used to have a rwd car w/ posi and studded snow tires not all-season. id put that car up against any common fwd car in snowy/icy conditions. ;- and if the driver of the fwd car had any skill at all you would lose. nonsense. when fwd slips you lose both traction and steering. not so with rwd. with two equal drivers the rwd car with a bit of extra weight in the rear will be better in snow. bullshit. when a fwd slips a light touch of the gass usually gets it right back. no different from rwd. lol only in your dreams. when a rwd loses traction in the front your sol and better pray that nothing else is around. same thing with fwd. w r o n g ! ! ! with fwd youd better be praying harder because you have no steering and no engine braking. at least with rwd you can downshift. lol i light touch of the gas will normally regain some steering just like in a 4x4. as far as engine braking you can do the same thing with the emergency brake. when they lose traction in the rear at best nothing happens but usually the front and rear of the car exchange positions and again you better pray that nothing else is around. the only way the rear will come around with a rwd is if youre still giving it gas as its slipping. if you let it go itll snap right back. lol i guess the laws of physics and inertia work differently on your planet. we are talking about ice and snow here not dry roads. i guess that you havent been driving long at least in the snow. then there is the fun of deep snow where the front wheels plow in and get a rwd hopelessly stuck. and you think a fwd wont get stuck in the same situation lol! nope not as easily as a rwd and that is just simple physics. in a rwd you are trying to push the non-powered front wheels most weight into the snow where a fwds front wheels also most weight try to climb over it instead of just plowing into it. while a rwd car can be made better in the snow with the help of studded tires and more weight in the rear a fwd is still better and doesnt require modification or pre-planning. what modification or pre-planning you just throw a sandbag or a couple cement blocks in back during the thanksgiving weekend sounds like a modification and pre-planning to me. this also kills your trunk space. then there is the inertia thing with a hundred or more pounds of dead weight in the trunk. then take them out come easter. if you think that fwd is really better in snow then youre a victim of sales/marketing bullshit over all these years. lol it is more like you are just to stubborn to view reality. i have owned nothing but rwd cars all of my life but when my furnace failed at the end of a blizzard and i needed to get parts for it my wifes little fwd honda civic got me there where my rwd trans-am couldnt even get out of my drive way and i knew better than to even try. well duh. a ta has absolutely no weight in the rear and the tires are way too wide for snow. but if rwd cars are sooooooo great what difference would that make. the hondas skinny-ass tires cut right through the snow and it obviously had a better weight distribution on the drive wheels. duh no shit. the weight distribution is the key reason why the fwd cars are superior in the snow. the cars are lighter and most of the weight is over the drive wheels. then you can add the fact that you are pulling the non-drive wheels with little weight on them over the snow and that is much easier than trying to push the non-drive wheels with most of the weight on
From : jaysmith
i use mine with a 3pt hitch 72 mower 48 rototiller and a front mounted 48 snowblower i thought it was illegal in canada to talk us inches how many metrics is that g according to your girlfriend not many.bfg roy .
From : jaysmith
stephen harding harding@cs.umass.edu wrote in from experience i disagree that fwd is better. ive driven both for years and i prefer rwd. i have to agree. with rwd if ya know what you are doing you can move the rear of the car with just a tap of the gas. you can avoid a accident or at least lessen it. with fwd you are screwed. i dont deny that fwd is decent in the snow. my wife drives a eldo but it is a damn heavy fwd. also it has blizzaks on it which improved it by about 75% over the factory tires. but get into a slide and you are pretty much along for the ride not so with rwd. but now you are assuming that everyone has the skills to put a car into a controlled skid under a panic situation and that is a complete load of bull. most people in that situation just hammer the brake and in that case front or rear wheel drive makes no difference. yes a skilled driver can make a rwd move in the snow but an inexperienced driver can easily do it with a fwd. as for the tire sizes and the t/a my wifes intrepid rt has the same size tires as my 80 t/a and it has no problems in the snow with them. so we agree it all comes down to the driver. it always comes down to the driver so yes we agree on that. but that doesnt change the fact that a fwd is easier to control and operate in the snow. like i said earlier it is good for one to know ones limitations. what exactly are you trying to say g one other thought and this is a jump ball. do you think that those off us that feel that rwd is the way to go that it might be because we learned to drive and became experienced on rwd. i am sure that has something to do with it. i would also add a fear of change or new things. while those who favor the fwd have limited or no experience driving a rwd. yep and that proves my point. it takes experience to drive a rwd well in the snow. i bet that you had no trouble driving your wifes car in the snow and that would probably include the first time that you did it. why do you think that is but i know people that have been driving fwd for years are good drivers and have no at-fault accidents yet have a hell of a time when driving a rwd in the snow. yup it is a age thingg i am not arguing personal preferences here. if you prefer a rwd over a fwd thats up to you but it doesnt make it better than a fwd for the average driver in the snow. i like to play with them in the snow as well but i am open minded enough to see which one has the advantage and why. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : denny
17!!! damn sound like you need my truck mounted snow blower. i normally use a meyers blade but w/ that much ill have to put the blower on. -- bruce grant westminster md 95 2500 club 4x4w/dynatrac manual hubs cummins/auto 265/70rx19.5g i bet that blower is fun when you get on a gravel lot!! g denny yea it sure is!!! look out windows windshields or any other types of glass. not to mention vinyl siding or the paint job on your neighbors car. -- bruce grant westminster md 95 2500 club 4x4w/dynatrac manual hubs cummins/auto 265/70rx19.5g .
From : denny
17!!! damn sound like you need my truck mounted snow blower. i normally use a meyers blade but w/ that much ill have to put the blower on. how big is the blower how wide a path does it make roy it has a 7 foot x 25 inch inlet. a 27 hp kohler engine runs the fan and auger. itll blow a dry snow about 50 feet. i just wish i had this thing back in jan 96 when we had a 3 foot blizzard here. -- bruce grant westminster md 95 2500 club 4x4w/dynatrac manual hubs cummins/auto 265/70rx19.5g .