OT - Cheney Kicked Ass

From : tbone

Q: it could be a combination of problems. first unloosen the radiator cap and bring it up to operating temp - check your gauge. if the coolant starts to go up and down your water pump is working. close radiator cap. check your guage. if coolant temp quage increases it is probably your thermostat or a plugged radiator. take the cheapest route to go from here. thermosat- a couple of bucks radiator flush and coolant a few more dollars new radiator flush coolant - a lot bucks. check with your local garage for your best price if unfamiliar with the testing sequence. best of luck .

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From : craig christian

aha a nimby in the making . . .not in my back yard ; i dont think thats a label that fits. i think we should come up with an alternative to drilling alaska. have you ever been there have you been to the location that bush/cheney have suggested that we start drilling i have ... and it should be a crime to destroy it. sorry craig but your completely deceived. first theres enough oil under the north shore alone to supply us needs completely for 5000 years i am summerizing from a book i read about alaska 2 years ago. i would be interested in knowing where your figures come from. perhaps mine are in error. secondly our civilization is too dependent on it to ever give up oil and third read my reply to jeff and think about how many oil based products you use yourself then multiply that by 3/4 of the world population. i understand what you are saying and i realize that a sudden switch off of oil is unrealistic. but we can move the process along faster than we have. bush made some progress but he could have done better. there are a couple of reasons why he didnt 1 his major contributors are oil companies 2 he comes from the oil mentality himself and 3 i dont think he really gives a shit about the environment. his record proves that. of course im guessing here but suspect that many many thousands of jobs could be created at every level r&d manfacturing sales if more time money and energy was focused on viable alternative energy. not trying to push any hot buttons here but if we spent 120 billion on alternative energy instead kicking iraqs ass wed be a lot closer to a solution that would in the end solve the issue in iraq. it will be drilled someday even if its your kids that beg for it. well now that depends on who we elect and what alternatives we as a country come up with now doesnt it craig c. .

From : craig christian

tbone wrote because unlike your lame attacks they actually have a point and are interesting. lolololololololol .............. wtf you smoking these days... you made the point now back it up. no dip shit you did and now you are running..... it was just another example moron. no it was more attempted bs spin........... gee jerry you really are dumber than dirt. according to you everyone on here is. but that is according to you and you should know by now that no one cares what you think. if you dont realize that by now then dumber than dirt is a good tag for you. i said and ill repeat it again for you if an expensive and time consuming exhaust system change will net a 15hp gain no thats not the way you said it ............ try again tommy troll. then a simple pully or waste gate change that can in some cases give 40+ hp increases by itself without the exhaust mod this is just a comparrison pinhead would be considered massive. bull shit ............... cite information that proves that. you really are grasping now and your continued spin attempts continue to show just how dumb you really are. keep going though because the laughs are refreshing. funny i was thinking the same about you. be careful now .............. thinking seems to be a strain on your one cell thinking. i was talking about you not her. but being a conservative i could see with your natural paranoia why you would assume otherwise. back peddling huh ................. little late now asshole as it is already in print but dont worry no one expected less of you. really and you have proof of this where are you really that stupid.......... of course you are. what exactly do you think the computer would do in your overboost situation tell you what it does on my truck sets a code from the ecm and starts defueling. you really are one stupid shit. lol wrong. i said that if you crank the boost beyond the headroom that the computer or fuel system has you would need to make corrections or modifications. you never said any such thing and you know it. once again jerry the waste gate was just a comparison in modification types except you made the stupid claim that a simple boost pressure adjustment with the waste gate would give massive gains ......... wrong as usual. let me sum it up for you numb nuts with a quote from another source. boost does not make power- fuel does. to make more power you must increase the fuel delivery rate. bottom line is you havent a clue what youre talking about i know it and so does everyone reading this ng. ive never claimed to know much about turbo chargers but i know im light years ahead of what you know. your the group troll boy tommy troll. maybe thats what you should really be tagged as simply tt which would put you on the same level as ole dd. no i cant do that to dd he didnt deserve to be brought down to your level. you can go ahead and have the thread tommy troll since you stooped to the maggot position of bringing family members into this. you as usual didnt have a leg to stand on with your normal bull shit so you fell back on your ace card of being the scum ball you really are. ill trade spit balls with you all day long between the two of us but your tactics of throwing out scum ball remarks involving family members are taboo in my book. you can try to spin out of that one anyway you wish but youll fool no none but yourself. youre nothing little man and little man is exactly what you are. jerry .

From : jerry

you could be describing a vehicle with the wrong or an upside down gas filter. most of those carb engines have a fuel return line to prevent vapor lock on a hot shut down. most of the inline fuel filters have 2 outlets. the center outlet goes to the carb and the top outlet goes to the return line. if the return line outlet is lower than the carb line gas will syphon back to the tank causing a vapor lock. same deal if the wrong filter is in it. i would be checking close for the gas return line to see if it is there and hooked up right. on the electric chokes the choke closes when shut down. no power it is closed. this is perfectly normal. mike 86/00 cj7 laredo 33x9.5 bfg muds glass nose to tail in 00 88 cherokee 235 bfg ats barry wrote just bought an 87 dodge pickup. whenever i drive it and its hot outside after i shut it off the truck seems to get vapor lock and refuses to start again. so i popped the hood... and what seems to be happening is the choke closes all the way whenever the engine is shut off.... which makes it darn near impossible to start. my solution is to jam the choke open with a screwdriver until it starts. also im only getting 7 miles to the gallon litterally although the truck seems to run fine. im goin to rebuild the carb but how do i know if the electric choke ever functions correctly i mean how do i test *that* or is it totally screwed up and i should save time by installing a manual choke the trucks an 87 dodge ram 360 engine. the qjets numbers are 17085431 / 1746. from what im reading that may not be the carb that came with the truck. im not a newbie but havent worked on my own cars for about twenty years and the carb thing is a new one for me. any advice greatly appreciated... and if youre in oregon it might be worth some beer. .

From : budd cochran

i think the term may have is being a little optimistic. in my experience id say your symptoms are pretty classic for a blown head gasket almost a certainty. id say the odds of it are 101. hopefully the cylinder head isnt warped. unless you are capable of doing it yourself and have access to the tools i.e. a torque wrench youre probably looking at a major cost repair easily several hundred. youll also need to determine and fix whatever caused it. this may be one of those chicken or the egg questions. the most common cause of a blown head gasket is overheating i.e. running it out of coolant stuck thermostat etc. adding cold water to an overheated engine thats boiled itself dry can also warp the block or head and possibly result in a blown head gasket. gjbeasley@comcast.net writes antifreeze does not evaporate quick!!! if you are loosin coolant and cant see where it is going you may have a blown head gasket or even intake gasket sucking coolant thru the engine and out the tail pipe .

From : budd cochran

budd cochran wrote budd cochran wrote what media are you watching ive read several reports both foreign and domestic. jeff the only one that pits liberal and conservatives views against each other doent allow one or the other to dominate the proceedings and allows you to think for yourself instead of subtly injecting their biased viewpoints into the horribly edited reporting . . .fox . try it if you dare. lol... try viewing outfoxed if you dare. fox .... l-o-double l. jeff i was right youre too brainwashed toward liberalism to risk seeing anything that might change your bigoted socialist mind . . .but i knew it was a risk . . . . spin all you want. funny that a repub would call me bigoted. to all the world spin spin spin... bigots come in all colors races creeds and political persuasions jeff. to think otherwise is blinding yourself to the truth. i was a racial relations nco for the national guard. ive been trained to recognize bigotry but my opinion of your brainwashing is simply proven by your response. i otoh have watched the biases and subtle innuendos develop in the mainstream media. when i first began following the political process back in the mid 60s reporters actually prided themselves on their lack of bias but now you have reporters that want everyone to subject themselves to the guidance of the liberal / communist factions. you sir are nuts if you think the media is liberal. as far as individual -casters go perhaps but they work for the most rightwing corporations on the planet and if you think anything more than centrist spin is allowed to go out over the airwaves well think again. ah your brainwashing is deeper than originally suspected. the owners of the broadcast organizations dont care what is sent out to the public they just want the stocks to go up. and fuck you with the communist bullshit. thats just a silly-assed rightwing dodge that has nothing to do with anything any longer. get off your highhorse. the commie boogeyman was put away long ago. no he wasnt and the liberals of the us lean more toward communism then they want to admit as you prove. answer this who does the liberals consider the best qualified to raise your kids and youre a fine example of the result. you have no idea. jeff yes unfortunately i do. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : miles

lol i think his response proved your point john. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. with your childish behavior hell have to devolve a bit to come down to your level. it takes some doing to make him look good but youve managed it. i crown you the new champion of the is too is not ive got to have the last word game. i hope its not too heavy for your pinhead. .

From : budd cochran

craig christian wrote 3 eliminate income tax go to straight sales tax or flat tax. 5 larger tax incentives for people/companies that develop or use if you initiate #3 then turn around and do #5 then you end up with exactly what we have now. jerry .

From : miles

what can i say . . .it came from the ford trucks group . .. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. this link http//www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml takes you to a ford site where all the major brands of automotive air filters are tested empirically for filtration and flow. included at the site is a chart that tells how big a filter a given engine displacement needs for a maximum rpm. i am not responsible for the content of the site so dont complain to me if it tells you something you dont want to hear. interesting but i dont see a rating for filtration by brand. paul johnson my thoughts too without the flow versus filtration numbers the data isnt that valuable; if flow is the only goal just leave the filter off. .

From : tbone

oh darn . . .decisions decisions decisions and the question of the century can kerry ever make one a stick to it -- budd overheard at his wedding; i do i dont i do i dont i do i dont i . .. . pastor please sir pick only one. with the debate tonight having a live audience of undecided voters candidate john kerry is having a difficult time deciding whether to be up on the stage with president bush or sitting in the audience with other people who cant make up their minds politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : craig christian

clintons plan didnt create jobs. a technology boom fueled by people willing to invest trillions into these high-risk stocks created the money supply for the jobs. economists in the 90s had stated over and over it was a sure plan for collapse but investors saw the market keep going up and dove in head first. when these companies failed as predicted the market collapsed. you can spin it how you want but it was an economy that had no backbone to stay afloat. nope. it was clintons agressive plan regarding the bond market. i still invest in high-tech stocks ... the same ones i invested in int he 90s. so do all of my friends and family yet our economy is in the toilet. part of the reason is that high-tech jobs are flying out of the country at an unprecendented rate. carter during clintons years the unemployment averaged higher than it is now. so let me get this straight ... youre saying that there were more unemployed people in the mid-90s than now what right-wing economic rag are you reading when clinton came into office the economy was growing. when he left the economy was falling. nope ... this country was in a recession when he took office. i remember that being part of the presidential debates. i was a perot fan at that time ... mainly because i worked for him ... and that was perots beef as well with daddy bush. and 50% of americans think kerry is worthless. whats your point actually i dont like kerry. i simply hate bush more. my answer is mccain. my point was that bush has successfully alienated at least 50% of america and 90% of the world. we can not allow the world to dictate our policies nor ask the un to protect us. that isnt at all what i am advocating. we cannot afford to alienate the world. period. call that what you want put your right-wing vocabulary on it if you want. we are where we are today not because we have acted alone like we have in the last 4 years. we cannot afford to run around world blowing the fuck out of everyone that our redneck president thinks needs it. strong alliances will insure our future success as a world leader ... not just militarily but economically as well. craig c. .

From : craig christian

steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote yes. why are you using all that light-weight stuff get a model 500 and be done with it!! i finally fired one. its not near as bad as i expected but the cost per shot is stupid. no doubt especially if you are using the corbons. hornaday has 20 round boxes for approx $38 if you can find them. reloads using the castperformance hardcast bullet is running just under a buck a shot. still a bit expensive but worth it. seen the hornadays but the box i saw was $52 a box. makes you wanna shoot 22s all day...altho......vgfg i did look at a ruger 22 today that was real nice..rotary clip..and there is a 30 round clip that you can get forit...is rotary on top and banana from the stock down....very nice...and i saw it in 3 different stock colors....the standard walnut in an anniversay badge trim and then two multi color stocks..one was like a sandwiched grey and black and the other was just...gay looking...reds yellows and blues...ugh. bg btw the gun i shoot the most is a p95 its gotta be the most reliable gun ive ever owned. agree...the p89 p90and p95s are perhaps as good as any out there. what colors did you get on yours poly and stainless poly and brushed here. did you get the hogue grips or have you got the stock polys if you dont have the hogues get a set! amazing difference in the feel of the gun.. http//www.ruger.com/firearms/faprodviewmodel=6620&return=y there is mine altho its not the special edition its a kp90...there is no difference on that one and mine other than the number run. looking at getting a ruger mini 14.. http//www.ruger.com/firearms/faprodviewmodel=1805&return=y except in black...they have one on trade in....looks like new and one of the guys there that works there owned it....its about 2 years old and they only want $300 for it...might just have to break down and do it.... damn...if i wasnt sold on ruger so well i would be looking for a garand too....lol got a set of hogues on teh way for the super blackhawk too....those pacs just are not good on a 44mag...but i cant wait till they get here....gonna run a few 44 specials through it and see how i like it then.... denny .

From : miles

stuart wrote guys why doesnt cummins list the fuel consumption by power like g/kwh or g/hph ive been looking everywhere trying to compare cummins efficiency with that of navistar isuzu cat & deutz. nothing! not one single reference to fuel consumption to power ratios. can someone help this kind of information is the key to all worth knowing about diesel engines as far as im concerned. dont you stuart just call cummins and ask them. monday through friday 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. est at 1-800-diesels 1-800-343-7357. .

From : jeff mayner

jeff mayner wrote you sir are nuts if you think the media is liberal. much of the media is most certainly left biased. clear channel and a few other networks that are not left biased are rare. you people talk about various media owners being conservative. guess again and pay attention on exactly who holds control over content. the commie boogeyman was put away long ago. not so. they are alive and well in the far left liberal party. they dont like being called commies any more than they like being called liberals. what they push for in our country is very much the socialist policies that define the roots of communism. are they commies no but i will fight them on their constant push towards socialism and the communistic leanings of many on the far left. .

From : jerry

john kunkel wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 jay wrote got a 96 dodge ram van 250. its a 3 speed no overdrive. i doubt that very much. are you sure theres not an o/d off button on the dashboard thats pressed and you just didnt notice it the 727 was still available well into the nineties i have a friend with a 95 van with a 727. i didnt believe it myself until i crawled under; no od. the engine runs way too fast on the highway it consumed 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles on a highway run at 65-70 mph. the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. pretty much any engine without a windage tray will consume more oil at sustained high rpm. cylinder walls get over-lubricated so the rings have to scrape off more oil more oil gets flooded into the top end and can be sucked up by the pcv system and general the whole engine gets filled with fine oil mist that winds up going straight out the pcv system and getting burned. 4 quarts in 800 miles is ridiculously excessive though. something else is wrong- missing baffles in the valve covers a big leak or a really worn-out engine. .

From : steve carolinabreezehvac

its his democratic buddies who drafted and are trying to pass the bill. so if it ever sees the light of day he would probably sign it. -- steve lol he still says that iraq was a threat to the us that has never changed. is it true kerry & edwards will restart the military draft john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : craig christian

on thu 07 oct 2004 144110 gmt mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote on thu 07 oct 2004 021034 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote snip oh yeah ^.... on the old vee-dubs as in beetles the choke knob was der warmercougher the wipers were das drizzleflippen and the windshield washer squirters = pissonias dj .

From : john z kerry

@yahoo.com says... actually now im more confused than before ;- the 1997 chrysler service manual shows ax15 and nv3500 transmissions. as82 is not mentioned anywhere so that information is probably just plain wrong. i checked the haynes repair manual for the 1997 model year and it indicates that two manual transmissions were used in the dakota... the ax-15 and the nv3500. it does not mention how to differentiate between the two. 1 transmission code is printed on the body code plate which is on the passenger side if you care to remove the cab back panel trim to get at it. first three letters of bottom line; ddq = 5-speed manual ax15 ddc = 5-speed manual nv3500 dgk = 4-speed auto 42re dgw = 4-speed auto 44re. 2 ax15 has a separate bellhousing nv3500 combines bellhousing with front half of gear case. to complicate things further there were two versions of the nv3500 available which differed only in the first and second gear ratios. the manual says that the ax15 was used on the 4.0l engine a common mis- print interpret as 3.9l but gives no other clues. gear ratios ax15 = 3.83 2.33 1.44 1.00 0.79 4.22r nv3500wide = 4.01 2.32 1.40 1.00 0.73 3.55r nv3500close = 3.48 2.16 1.40 1.00 0.73 3.55r hth .

From : miles

miles wrote the oem shocks on my 2001 ram were junk. they were worn out by 10k miles. even when they were new the ride was horrible. back end shudder over speed bumps and bad control when turning. i dont need top of the line shocks just something decent. i put monroe senso-tracs on and the solved the problems i was having with the oems. the monroe sensa-tracs are good shocks and supposedly the monroe reflex shocks which im running now are a little better. i think i got a better ride from the sensa-tracs which i ran for about 60000 miles before switching to the reflex. just about anything beats the oem but some people seem to swear by them. for what kevin describes as his driving habits/conditions my opinion is the sensa-tracs would work just fine. jerry .

From : ramworker

the oem shocks on my 2001 ram were junk. they were worn out by 10k miles. even when they were new the ride was horrible. back end shudder over speed bumps and bad control when turning. i dont need top of the line shocks just something decent. i put monroe senso-tracs on and the solved the problems i was having with the oems. kevin wrote i have a 98 dodge dakota and was wondering what kind of shocks i should get brand. i have been told by some that monroe and gabriel are 2 of the best but i have been told by others that they dont last long. i also read that it would be best to buy new oem shocks from a dealer because they should last the original warranty period or longer but they cost more than aftermarket shocks. i plan to run this truck until it dies so i want the shocks to last a good while. i only use it for going back and forth to work and the occasional side trip. i almost never go off road and if i do its just an open field or something. so anyway any help would be appreciated. cost doesnt matter i just need to know how actual drivers would rate them. thanks. kevin .

From : budd cochran

yes and like them very much. but i only have the oems to compare them to. bill -- bilsteins. thats the answer i got when i posed the question to a dodge safety engineer. those germans really know how to build shocks. they are a little more costly but have a lifetime warranty. bill-- did you get them how did you like them kevin i have a 98 dodge dakota and was wondering what kind of shocks i should get brand. i have been told by some that monroe and gabriel are 2 of the best but i have been told by others that they dont last long. i also read that it would be best to buy new oem shocks from a dealer because they should last the original warranty period or longer but they cost more than aftermarket shocks. i plan to run this truck until it dies so i want the shocks to last a good while. i only use it for going back and forth to work and the occasional side trip. i almost never go off road and if i do its just an open field or something. so anyway any help would be appreciated. cost doesnt matter i just need to know how actual drivers would rate them. thanks. kevin .

From : miles

dont waste your time with dip wad .. he doesnt like himself too much and takes it out on everyone else. my guess is that its a 7mm allen. i figured that out by taking the wheel off and checking then putting the wheel back on and driving to az. actually you can just climb under the car to look. im preparing to do my first brake job -- changing pads and rotors -- on my new to me 99 durango. a friend thinks they have torx heads on the caliper bolt. does anyone out there know exactly what i need to remove the bolt also any tips tricks or potential gotchas would be appreciated. thanks! .

From : tbone

on wed 06 oct 2004 235103 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote for those wondering where it came from prindle comes from the common p-r-n-d-l automatic gear selector pattern. well i cant really say that i was wondering what prindle meant just one of those things you skim thru without really reading but that explanation sure makes sense budd.. mac .

From : john z kerry

a guy goes into one of those new self-service taverns. walks up to the automated bar tender and says whisky soda. the auto-bartender machine instantly delivers a delicious whisky soda to the man then the machine asks what is your iq the man says 155. being a good conversationalist like most bar tenders the machine begins discussing quantum physics the theory of relativity and advanced calculus dynamics with the man. they man thinks this is cool so he leaves then comes back and orders a vodka collins. instantly the auto- bar tender gives the man a great tasting vodka collins. the auto-bar tender then asks the man what his iq is the man replies 100. the machine then begins discussing football scores bowling leagues baseball teams and cheerleaders with the man. now the guy so impressed he leaves again and returns again. the man walks up to auto-bar tender and orders a gin and tonic. instantly the machine delivers a great tasting gin and tonic to the man. the machine then asks the man what his iq is the man replies 50. the auto-bar tender then asks the man why he is voting for john kerry .

From : budd cochran

kevin.cooper1@verizon.net writes i have a 98 dodge dakota and was wondering what kind of shocks i should get brand. i have been told by some that monroe and gabriel are 2 of the best but i have been told by others that they dont last long. i also read that it would be best to buy new oem shocks from a dealer because they should last the original warranty period or longer but they cost more than aftermarket shocks. i plan to run this truck until it dies so i want the shocks to last a good while. i only use it for going back and forth to work and the occasional side trip. i almost never go off road and if i do its just an open field or something. so anyway any help would be appreciated. cost doesnt matter i just need to know how actual drivers would rate them. thanks. if cost is no object you might want to look into the monroe gas magnums. i just had a set of 4 put on my 97 ram 1500 cc/sb and am extremely pleased w/ride & handling both empty and with 400 lbs on the bed. wife & i just did a 2000 mile trip last week half of it empty & were in our late 50s with lots of old tired arthritic joints. we found the trip quite enjoyable so much so that we drove it straight-through each way stopping only for food & fuel. $260 for set of 4. .

From : john z kerry

because everybody wants to be a lexicographer & wordsmith & punner & time-waster everybody would thus be vastly uninterested in thrashing this note. when i hear em/yall talking about the birdhouse or whatever ya call the large console latched thing in my 86 250 ram van covering the carb & air filter i am thus wondering about other silly names for various things that ive never heard for instance perhaps a steering wheel is playfully called ...helm or rudder or wheel or turning device or the place to temporarily enplace saw-off the semi-clever lock thing or the muffler might be called the silencer or the hollywood or the cut-outs or just a real dumb thing to annoy the neigbors with or the darkened window or sun-defender or the glove compartment is you dont get my exact idea but exact is not exactly the wide-open inquiry the glass area of a vehicle is called the greenhouse the slope of the windows on the side of a vehicle is called tumble-home the rear glass is called a back-lite the brits call the trunk the boot the brits call the hood the bonnet the stamped lines in a vehicles sheet metal are called character lines the neutral safety switch is called a prindle switch. the shift indicator on an automatic vehicle is called a prindle indicator the upper front engine support on a fwd gm v-6 is called a dog bone thats all that come to mind at the moment but ill think of more chryco service manager member sae .

From : tbone

please it is more than obvious what candidate you are going to vote for. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving greg just dont be so sure you are. you know i like to stir t-bone up occasionally. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. on sun 17 oct 2004 142331 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote im sorta curious do any of you folks that participate in the various political threads actually believe that you will sway anybodies vote it would seem to me that if one was so enthralled with their candidate that their time would be better spent supporting that candidate through phone banks leafleting and other campaign work. i just dont understand how going back and forth with the same 2 or 3 people are advancing your candidates election bid. roy you make a good point - but it does bother me that i am thinking of voting for the same person as budd. beekeep .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote really from what scripture do you base that claim -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. budd cochran wrote how is it different from any other capital punishment which is what it was meant to be used for . . . oh wait if the murder killed your family member it might be a different thing al together right just like bush you sidestep issues. if thou shalt not kill is a commandment how can any form of killing be condoned state sanctioned or not so just lay down and let whatever terrorist group invading nation or dictator just walk rough shod over you your family and all youve earned. if they kill you or you family oh well. . . first you need to study jewish history. they were a group that killed among themselves for silly reasons like who owned which goat. nowhere in the o.t. does god forbid fighting in a war in fact he stopped the sun to give the israelites the victory according to the bible. in another instance he sent his angels down to fight with gideon. does that sound like he condemns killing in wartime as i told you the commandment was directed to the hebrews for their daily lives. just like the many who quote leviticus to condemn homosexuality which is described as an abomination but ignore the verses in leviticus that forbid the consumption of shellfish also described as an abomination. and you need to learn the difference between the two. one is to insure the continuance of the hebrews as a ethnic group and the other is to prevent red tide poisonings a health problem common in that area about 5k years ago. two entirely different reasons for the use of the word. btw which version are you taking this stuff from the king james version is considered by most biblical scholars to be the most accurate. contradiction and inconsistency are a poor basis for belief. lack of understanding of what the bible really says is no basis to condemn it not to mention an apples and oranges comparision by you between sexual and health matters. and you continue to demonstrate your own small mindedness. budd actually all christians are redeemed jews. jesus was sent to redeem the jews not found a separate religion. jam the old testament. i dont know the exact quote but wasnt in prophesied that a savior would be sent to redeem the jews a messiah. jam .

From : john z kerry

john z kerry wrote bush is responsible for all the pot holes in the new jersey turnpike and i am really pissed about it! a special pot hole patcher is available from north carolina but bush will not order its use. if its who i think it is i dont blame him. jerry .

From : craig christian

bush is responsible for all the pot holes in the new jersey turnpike and i am really pissed about it! a special pot hole patcher is available from north carolina but bush will not order its use. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : john z kerry

john z kerry wrote we must stop kerry from getting the decode key! okay!!! as an ignorant right-wing radical what can i do to help!!! if kerry cheats again like he did in the first debate when he pulled a copy of prepared notes out of his pocket email rush right away and give all details. we have a way we can cancel the decode key so kerry-edwards will get confused. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : budd cochran

lol miles wrote didnt actually watch much of this debate but sounded like a good topic to post. .

From : john z kerry

hey roy. you and sue up for a little drive out west this summer. i hear there are comedians all over the place... bg im sure whatever part of mon ta ta ta ta na nate ended up in its illegal to possess jeans with zippers since the sound of a zipper stampedes the sheep and velcro jeans with buttons are probably required g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : budd cochran

on wed 06 oct 2004 145848 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote back to that magical justification and spin again. i used to play d&d a while back i would never have admitted that. of course i would never have played that game in the first place. i know of one person that became screwed up emotionally and mentally from essentially living out that game according to his shrinks. he committed suicide last year. budd .

From : miles

just picked up a new 2004 durango a bout 10 days ago. love the truck! unfortunately it has taken exactly 1 week for my wife to amputate the passenger side mirror while backing out of the garage. in know that it is attached to the door by 3 screws. i can get to one but the other 2 are behind the door panel. what is the proper procedure for removing the door panel i have an offset screwdriver so i can just remove the top to get to the screws as long as the wire harness is accessible at the top of the door. any help would be appreciated! scott .

From : miles

uh no not the same thing. you actually believe what you said. i really dont care one way or another and made it clear i really didnt even watch the dang thing. tbone wrote now lets see if he gets called a troll by his buddy budd and other for doing exactly what i did and for pretty much the same reason to have a little fun or will we just have another go at the typical budd double standard. .

From : tbone

or you from the medicine cabinet. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving follow tom did ya ever follow a drunk walking down the street -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. tbone wrote yup typical. then he posts a statement compareing a boost increase on a blower. to a wastegate adjustment on a turbo. how exactly do you think you control the boost on a turbocharged engine roy come on you can look it up. maybeee ....... change the pulley size since you were commenting on over driving the blower you couldnt have been talking about a exhaust driven turbo which i dont think can be over driven so you must have been actually talking about a supercharger right. just trying to get it straight here so i can follow.............. jerry .

From : tbone

on tue 05 oct 2004 211026 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote look at the bright side denny.. someone actually paid attention to one of your posts! i was playing around trying to cancel a post. i see it didnt work so i guess im still stupider than my remaining teenage female. life goes on................ think snow.. denny i will not ignore it and you cant make me. you are not the boss of me. you do not own this group. this is the same type of thing you are always doing. if you wanted it ignored you should not have posted it here. ...and now that i have opened it there is nothing but a simple hi. unbelievable. ..some people! sorry denny i just finished my hi octane coffee while reading one of the nomex threads and got carried away. - btw hi. back at ya ken hi mac .

From : budd cochran

john z kerry wrote he forgot the verse thou shall not kill! he didnt forget; he has no core values and never did. kerry quoting the bible is probably the height of liberal hypocrisy! john z kerry president t-bone steak houses i wish one of you would define core values for me. or is that just another meaningless wise crack jam .

From : craig christian

jeff mayner wrote sorry steve. i cannot in good conscience accept anything from fox as legitimate reporting. their reporting is so full of distortions and outright lies that it poisens everything imo. so tell us jeff what is your source of non-distorted truthfull unbiased .

From : jerry

but they both amount to the same load of shit and neither is all that believable. sure but moore is at times funny. rush is a friggin addict. your perception of what is funny is hilarious. the best humor has its roots in the truth which is why moores material revs up the rage in the bush haters versus making them laugh. moore has done more than bush stuff and some of it is funny. you dont find it funny who cares. .

From : budd cochran

how is it different from any other capital punishment which is what it was meant to be used for . . . oh wait if the murder killed your family member it might be a different thing al together right anyone else smack their hand and say shame shame shame. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. show me where in the old or new testament where war is forbidden or killing during the war is forbidden. read it in context next time. the ten commandments were rules for living given by god to the israelites. oh and how does killing by stoning as directed in the same bible differ from killing in other forms .

From : budd cochran

but i dont see the conservatives wanting to take away my right to start or join a revolution to rid the country of a dictatorial leader by taking away my right to arm myself. the first thing a dictatorial government wants to do is take away the right to bear arms. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. john z kerry wrote here is a classic example of the liberal myth. that all or even most businesses are corrupt and greedy. if liberals had their way then corporations would be reduced to miniscule profits and the incentive to achieve and grow would be minimized. there is some truth to the greed and corruption issue but what liberals want has great negative impact on far more than just the few corrupt corporations. very simply put liberals are all for having an intrusive big all-knowing all-protective bureaucratic federal government control all facets of our lives. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses jeewiz that sounds just like the way we are living now under the current administration. jam give an example. how about the patriot act for starters possibly the greatest usurpation of civil liberties in the last century and the conservatives intent to pass constitutional amendments to limit freedom of expression and lifestyle. and how about the conservatives continuing goal to control what we read and see via censorship what we can ingest the list goes on. conservatism is quite possibly the greatest threat to personal freedoms in this country; ban this outlaw that with the ultimate goal of controlling all facets of our lives. .

From : tbone

lets see we have american citizens imprisoned with out charges being filled no legal representation and being held in isolation. we have tortured and abused prisoners. we have passed a law allowing the fbi to snoop into what books we read. we have oil companies and defense contractors telling our government what to do. the current administration has mounted the most far reaching attack on our personal freedoms in history. twice now in my life time we have pulled our nation out of a military based economy and now bush has dragged us right back into another military based economy. is there something else for this country to be proud of besides our ability to kill our fellow man jam whew! good rant. you were definitely a howard dean supporter. unfortunately kerry does not fill the void for you except for the bush hating part of you. when lacking defense revert back to the attack mode. the only thing that little minds can do is to label those who oppose their narrow view as liberals. .

From : miles

lets see we have american citizens imprisoned with out charges being filled no legal representation and being held in isolation. we have tortured and abused prisoners. we have passed a law allowing the fbi to snoop into what books we read. we have oil companies and defense contractors telling our government what to do. the current administration has mounted the most far reaching attack on our personal freedoms in history. twice now in my life time we have pulled our nation out of a military based economy and now bush has dragged us right back into another military based economy. is there something else for this country to be proud of besides our ability to kill our fellow man jam whew! good rant. you were definitely a howard dean supporter. unfortunately kerry does not fill the void for you except for the bush hating part of you. when lacking defense revert back to the attack mode. the only thing that little minds can do is to label those who oppose their narrow view as liberals. having a bad hair day kunk eat steak! john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : john smith

on fri 15 oct 2004 125129 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote my 99 quad cab will start and run if you keep your foot on the gas but if you lift your foot to go to idle speed the engine stops. you can restart the truck but the same thing happens. either a bad battery or a bad iac motor.... the battery is the more common cause. bad battery if the truck starts over and over again with no problem .. . . .

From : craig christian

not until now this one doesnt seem to have to concern himself with laws. he operates mostly outside the law. prove it with specific examples and detailed references instead of just regurgitating the liberal dumocrat party line. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : tbone

which bearings just the axle or all of them -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving 91/4 rear end looking to replace bearings any info 98 1500 4x4 5.9l .

From : budd cochran

on fri 15 oct 2004 031842 gmt j. a. m. jimbob@pgh.net wrote jerry wrote john z kerry wrote does anybody know what he is talking about yeah hes suffering .................... probable since birth. jerry just another meaningless wise crack. jam maybe but still more honorable than just being another crack like you. .

From : tbone

john z kerry wrote so called conservative republicans are neither conservative or republican in their thinking. the are on the extreme right of the political spectrum. they see compromise as a dirty word and will not tolerate a difference of opinion. they live in a black and white world and make things difficult for the rest of us that live somewhere in the gray area of moderation. its the people on the extream left and the extream right that make the rest of us suffer. jam does anybody know what he is talking about john z kerry president t-bone steak houses sorry ill include a meaningless wise crack next time so you can understand. jam thanks more positive poll numbers for bush. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : tbone

on 14 oct 2004 104617 -0700 craig@metronet.com craig christian wrote the same thing that motivates right-wing overly-conservative war-mongering republicans a narrow and closed mind. craig c. some peoples minds are so open that their brains have fallen out. so many garys ..so.. clyde .

From : budd cochran

on thu 14 oct 2004 121952 gmt scottdaily@comcast.net wrote wicked check this file red has a web site *bg* .

From : budd cochran

today we call that a good suggestion not rules to live healthy and productive lives by or to run governments with..... .

From : miles

the same thing that motivates right-wing overly-conservative war-mongering republicans a narrow and closed mind. craig c. .

From : craig christian

pkb pot-kettle-black. abortionists gays now gang environmental wackos animal rights nuts unions etc. will only vote for liberal democrats. another in a long list of erroneous statements. .

From : denny

he didnt forget; he has no core values and never did. kerry quoting the bible is probably the height of liberal hypocrisy! neither one should be quoting from the bible to begin with! craig c. .

From : budd cochran

john kunkel wrote what motivates conservative republicans three things ignorance that can be said about both sides and have some truth to it. hatred i dont hate kerry or any other liberal. i just disagree with much of their views. they are still good people that in the end want the same things. its just the methods to achieve them that differ. but the liberals today are filled with hate. they say they hate bush hate conservative values and say it with anger. i really do not see how you can say conservatives are motivated by hate. oh wait i take that back. we are motivated by the hatred seen from liberals. greed working ones butt off to become successfull is seen by many liberals as being greedy. you want what others have without having to put in the effort they have. its easier to just tax the crap out of people for being successfull and living the american dream. great incentives to achieve the liberals have! .

From : craig christian

personally i thought the car looked great except for those darn rubber band tired wheels. i agree. *what is* this facination recently with gigantic rims ive seen 4x4s with rubber band tires! wtf ah ... this explains some of why we disagree. i too am driven to some degree on this subject by my beliefs. i believe that this earth is all we have and it is all we are going to have ... at least in my lifetime. therefore i am looking a little further ahead than you perhaps. well i have yet to find an evolutionist that can explain the discrepancies of the evolutionary timeline as well as the scientificly proven evidence from genisis. the biggest problem with evolution is its not provable with empirical testing. evolution is awefully deep for this forum ... besides being agnostic im not sure that i believe in evolution. ; i suggest we take the spiritual side of this to email if you wish i dont wish upset certain persons. if you wish to do so just remove the spam from my email address. just with a quick glance at my niv and kjv bibles i cant locate that verse do you know where it is agreed. i will email you today. i agree that often other options should be considered but americans are spoiled brats. you can say that again. is small enough i have to put the top half way down to change my mind but seriously it is fun it gets about 5 miles per gallon more 26 vs. 21 than my old d-150 with a 318 but on the other hand i cant fiddle with it to get more mpg or performance like i could the truck. i drive a 99 cavalier ack to work everyday. it gets about 30 mpg compared to my truck 02 ram 1500 360 4wd that gets 11.5 mpg with a tail wind going down hill with the engine turned off. ; i beg to differ. people of middle eastern decent have no problem drilling that wasteland for $$. in fact they would likely disappear if they didnt. which that alone is a great reason to reduce our dependency ... i hope i didnt read what i think you said. cut them off and let them die what i meant by disappear is not the people but the issues the middle eastern countries cause. if they dont have the $$ one of two things will happen 1 they will all kill each other or 2 they will actually move forward and present something else of value research technology etc to the world. i hope its the latter but something tells me it will be the former. in either case its something that they need to resolve without our assistance. anyway bedouins think that same wasteland is the most beautiful place on the planet and they are the majority of the populace there. is the term wasteland your opinion or theirs i know nothing of the bedouins. i will have to look into that. here again do we go by your opinion of what is wasteland or the opinion of the local residents. when i said moab ut was beautiful i meant it but i dont care to live here. i like moab. i live in dallas ... and its butt ugly. i still dont want it drilled however. i plan to move back to the co mountains next spring. i snow ski twice a year in colorado. i would like to have some land in steamboat springs. does that make my opinion of moab more or less important than my step-mom-in-laws who has lived here since the late forties after being born in virginia that depends how you feel about your in-laws. seriously i see your point. apparently im a little older than you. bg im at that age 34 where older people think im young and younger people think im old. its very confusing. ; from what i remember of those same presidents i think they spent monies we did not have to begin with on programs for special interest groups. yes some of that happened. is spending pseudo-dollars on the environment wiser than pseudo-dollars spent on the sex life of cockroaches or on programs to increase employment and education yes on all except the cockroaches. ; good can happen on all. on the environment i happen to think that focusing on that more will increase employment and education. alternative energy is a high-tech industry. i know a good many displaced ee and me folks right now. the problem with the epa is they acept theory as fact. they do little or no empirical experimentation and follow whims like theyre gospel. some of the epa may now have scientific degrees but are they in applied physiscs are they in chemistry meterology or are the philosopical doctorates are they really doing any research with controlled experimentation i cant answer with any certainty. i can only tell you what my exprience was when i applied to the epa. they wanted a minimum of a masters in enviromental science for the position i was looking at. other positions require chemistry or physics. to your point these qualifications may not apply to the executives. then add to it the deceptive practice of wording the claims o

From : miles

hmm you never did prove i was a failure but everytime you post your insecurity shows. yes i did. i doubt that the grass cutting buisness ever existed and if it did and you were really givng your family that much money and they were still trying to collect welfare that shows what kind of stock you come from. as for the other two both failures were yours for both signing an idiotic contract and the other for not planning ahead. whether you believe or not that i had a lawn service doesnt matter your word has less than zero value for truthfulness. as for the others fine believe what ever your little mind can handle. i hope someday you find yourself in the same situtations. that doesnt sound very christian like of you. and you make the common error of think christians are not allowed to defend themselves or their families. the scripture says to turn the other cheek and god only gave me two. youre a little different than most people. i got two under my nose and two on my backside... vbg denny .

From : budd cochran

1 when cold the truck wont go. left my truck at the dealership yesterday to get this checked out. they replaced the lift pump and are replacing the injection pump under warranty! - it hasnt gone out completely but the mechanic said failure is imminent and he got the approval to replace it. injection pump comes in friday. ya did real well. buy the service guy a bottle usually it is a hassel to get them to go for the inj pump. roy .

From : tbone

on thu 14 oct 2004 011347 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote on wed 13 oct 2004 022445 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote ok find ya a surplus law light anti-tank weapon rocket and then go someplace far from the town cops and your sanity. stand off at least 150 yards and let them buy you lunch one from each of them. -- budd and wear a rag wraped around your head and chant some arabic mumbo-jumbo. beekeep you got that one wrong bk.. you dress like that if youre using an rpg or ak-47... .

From : tbone

on thu 14 oct 2004 043201 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on thu 14 oct 2004 005334 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on wed 13 oct 2004 220607 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote then why do you act like one lol act like what budd i forgot with you its not acting when youre an idiotic troll its just the real you peeking thru. do you mean like the old bitter failure that shows in you. hmm you never did prove i was a failure but everytime you post your insecurity shows. yes i did. i doubt that the grass cutting buisness ever existed and if it did and you were really givng your family that much money and they were still trying to collect welfare that shows what kind of stock you come from. as for the other two both failures were yours for both signing an idiotic contract and the other for not planning ahead. kind of bending over that line here arent we just getting a tad on the too personal side tom. i know budd does it too but either one of you could step back a little. ya think so i doubt that. i tried to end this weeks ago but he just refuses to let it happen. if he wants to dish it out then he had better be prepared to get it back. my offer still stands all he has to do is agree to it but we both know that it will never happen. he simply cant resist starting shit with me and he knows it. and you called jerry a pinhead come on if you want to quit the personal bs all you gotta do is quit it. clearly you dont want to. like i said if he is going to dish it out he will get it back. im not proud of it but that is the way it is. if you dont like it put me in your kill file. okey dokey. .

From : theguy

on 13 oct 2004 073842 -0700 icpenguin@yahoo.com tux in a ram wrote the wires are fairly new 15 - 20k checked cap rotor both look good.... i am leaning toward replacing the timing chain. but if i can find the problem ill replace it this winter. any other ideas fuel pump mine started acting like that when the fuel pump started going south. sometimes it would run fine under acceleration other times it would hesitate and seem like the timing was off. check your fuel pressure if the pump is slowly dying it could cause some of those symptoms. backfiring through the intake is usually a symptom of a lean mixture. older vehicles would drive you crazy doing it if the accelerator pump in the carburetor stopped pumping. does the o2 sensor not have a lot to do in controlling your mixture so many garys ..so.. clyde .

From : theguy

is there a specific power steering fluid for a 98 dodge dakota pretty much any ps fluid is fine. .

From : tbone

on wed 13 oct 2004 022445 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote ok find ya a surplus law light anti-tank weapon rocket and then go someplace far from the town cops and your sanity. stand off at least 150 yards and let them buy you lunch one from each of them. -- budd and wear a rag wraped around your head and chant some arabic mumbo-jumbo. beekeep .

From : budd cochran

we seen his work gwb............... time for a change. sure cant hurt! its like russian roulette gwb is a dud load the next chamber! ken wrote i think you need to make a list of good things gwb if any hes done and mistakes hes made. sit back and look really hard! please dont list the big tax refund we got. because that just shows how little money it takes to buy votes. i could list several that in my view has helped me my family my company and the country as a whole. however your question is politicaly motivated. there is nothing youd agree with. now your very same question could be asked of kerry. make a list of good things john fn kerry has done over his 20 years in the senate. how about just the last 4 years .

From : theguy

it is not the number of times but the accuracy that counts. take this thread for example you have you who takes the opposit side no matter what it is right or wrong and in this case you are wrong. then you have jerry who doesnt have a clue about any of it and compares his diesel work truck to a record holding super truck as to the reaction of a boost increase yet more bs. then you can add roy who jumped in to protect the public from well nothing at all. yea a lot of valid correction going on here budd. as from the numbers being reversed not hardly. many are your friends or just like me less than you at the time and everybody in here knows your reaction to being told that you are wrong which is ten times worse than anything that i would do. fell free to keep calling me names christian boy i as well as the lord know that its just your insecurity pouring through and we forgive you. how can i be wrong when i given evidence you are the one that is wrong lol when did you do that every time i ask you to back it up you either spin or call me names. hell even when i ask you for the names of all of the people correcting me in this thread you cant do it. sorry budd but all your evidence is imaginary and in your head. fortunately with your head being without much thought or knowledge there is plenty of room in there. you always demand proof but never give it. i have learned from the master that giving proof is a pointless exercise but i do it anyway at least far more times than you do. well idiot troll the k&n thread gave you proof that proved you wrong wrong about what the turbo book from dick datson proves you wrong. lol it did no such thing. all it proves is that you dont understand what you read. i asked a simple question and as i see you deleted almost the entire post which is what you always do when you cant answer the questons and your spin fails. and the fact you avoided answering with anything but spins in this latest reply shows you to be the coward. no your deletion of just about everything shows who the real coward is and in oe you purposely hve to delete it. btw idiot to agree with someone doesnt mean you have to like them just be smart enough to know whats right and whats wrong. and thats the problem with you you dont know whats right or wrong about anything. now troll are you brave enough to face a little mechanical test from me or not coward sure but what will that prove what are you going to do find the most obscure things that you can in your book and act like its something that you already know we all already know that you dont know as much about turbos as you claim just by what you said so far and what is going to stop me from just looking up what i dont know. your test will be pointless but bring it on. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 291399 hwjbd.6951$ly.2439@01.roc.ny hmm you never did prove i was a failure but everytime you post your insecurity shows. yes i did. i doubt that the grass cutting buisness ever existed and if it did and you were really givng your family that much money and they were still trying to collect welfare that shows what kind of stock you come from. as for the other two both failures were yours for both signing an idiotic contract and the other for not planning ahead. whether you believe or not that i had a lawn service doesnt matter your word has less than zero value for truthfulness. as for the others fine believe what ever your little mind can handle. i hope someday you find yourself in the same situtations. but i doubt you will learn from it. the incident with the post from my sis-in-law no but good point and not even 24 hrs after attacking me for doing the same thing lol. i guess that its ok when you do it though. the difference was i retracted the post and actually learned a bit from the incident. you still argued yours was right. are you dredging up about that incident with roy that everyone would forget if you didnt keep dragging it up troll. but then troublemaking is your entire life and joy isnt it wuss lol yep thats the one and why should we forget it. if you were everything that you claim to be then it never should have happened. hell you followed him around posting crap sorta like you tries to do to me. the difference is that i have no problem stooping down to your level while roy did. if you dont want me to bring it up then stop trying to make yourself out to be better than me because history says it aint so. lol history says im better than you when im at my worst and youre just a little idiotic troll. btw this is the first time i ever brought the topic of that incident up. the last 3 or twenty times has always been you throwing in my face little boy. come on tom is that all the better you can do come on see if you can find mor

From : tbone

daniel j. stern wrote the wrap-around taillights suck i agree. and theyre all red. no amber turn blinker. suddenly its 1991... suddenly its an american-looking car again.... you knew id pipe up in support of red taillamps didnt you - boo! on the v6 replacing the i6; suv engines ought to have low-end grunt. that i6 was an institution and it deserved to be updated rather than discarded. agreed. im sure car and driver will cream their jeans about the silky-smooth v6 being better than the agricultural-sounding pushrod inline 6 it replaces. agreed on that one. the 4.0 is the second best ohv inline six ever built right behind the slant-six. and it has a lot of features that are frankly better than the slanty. but i still like the old l-heads best and not even car and driver could claim that any v6 is smoother than an old plymouth dodge or desoto l-head. more powerful yeah. smoother never in a million years. - .

From : budd cochran

ok thanks not that i want to replace fuel pump priced one today $300 vs. $50 for timing chain and gears. guess that beats spending $25000+ for a new truck lol. .

From : tbone

its ok john you have the right to be wrong. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. yep youre a bigot. already admitted that. and in a way i am also. i think anyone that has an attitude like yours probably figures that the bible thumpers are sub-human and the trailer trash are unworthy of assistance and that you are somehow superior to both groups. one need not feel superior to any group in order to point out their shortcomings. the fact that a certain sort constitutes bushs voter base is even recognized by the likes of that little weasel ralph reed who made the comment bush could be elected by the fundamentalists alone. what this implies is that a certain voter will elect a president based solely on his religious afffiliation not his competence. that scares me and it should scare everyone. youre not. romans 323 and 623 kjv there ive done my bible thumping. the only absolute fact is that there is no proof of the existence of a supreme being especially the christian god and therefore any and all references to the teachings of that fictitious god whether written or vocal should be given the same credence as a fairy tale. unlike you i dont need religious books written thousands of years ago by some men and sanctified by other men who wanted power over people to serve as my yardstick for making judgements. i have acquired my means of judgement from experience and observation not from being training like a dog as a child and then regurgitating the proverbs and bible passages as if they were some kind of infallible truth and i damned sure dont want a president who takes direction from the bible instead of the law of the land. president bush made a speech and in the course of his speech he held up the bible and said this is the guidebook not federal regulations. that scares me a lot more than any perceived threat from terrorists. .

From : budd cochran

lol no more childish than you are for posting it in the first place. its not childish to post a warning about a potentially dangerous source of incorrect information its a public service. lol with all of the incorrect things that you are comming out with you should keep it at the top of all of yur posts as a disclaimer. its funny how you get corrected about 100 times more often than i do. if i were as incorrect as you think the numbers would be reversed but theyre not troll-boy because you are a total mechanical idiot. it is not the number of times but the accuracy that counts. take this thread for example you have you who takes the opposit side no matter what it is right or wrong and in this case you are wrong. then you have jerry who doesnt have a clue about any of it and compares his diesel work truck to a record holding super truck as to the reaction of a boost increase yet more bs. then you can add roy who jumped in to protect the public from well nothing at all. yea a lot of valid correction going on here budd. as from the numbers being reversed not hardly. many are your friends or just like me less than you at the time and everybody in here knows your reaction to being told that you are wrong which is ten times worse than anything that i would do. fell free to keep calling me names christian boy i as well as the lord know that its just your insecurity pouring through and we forgive you. how can i be wrong when i given evidence you are the one that is wrong you always demand proof but never give it. well idiot troll the k&n thread gave you proof that proved you wrong the turbo book from dick datson proves you wrong. and the fact you avoided answering with anything but spins in this latest reply shows you to be the coward. btw idiot to agree with someone doesnt mean you have to like them just be smart enough to know whats right and whats wrong. now troll are you brave enough to face a little mechanical test from me or not coward -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : miles

on wed 13 oct 2004 172935 gmt john kunkel kunkel.j@shorts.comcast.net wrote so says you. according to your logic a 4-cylinder perkins could pull a class 8 truck over the rockies so thats the way to go. watch this then http//www.becontrols.com/renault5.wmv that is funny. yeah i laughed pretty hard when i saw that. can you imagine being up in the mountains enjoying your favorite camping spot and having that guy pull in next to you .

From : craig christian

yep youre a bigot. already admitted that. and in a way i am also. i think anyone that has an attitude like yours probably figures that the bible thumpers are sub-human and the trailer trash are unworthy of assistance and that you are somehow superior to both groups. one need not feel superior to any group in order to point out their shortcomings. the fact that a certain sort constitutes bushs voter base is even recognized by the likes of that little weasel ralph reed who made the comment bush could be elected by the fundamentalists alone. what this implies is that a certain voter will elect a president based solely on his religious afffiliation not his competence. that scares me and it should scare everyone. youre not. romans 323 and 623 kjv there ive done my bible thumping. the only absolute fact is that there is no proof of the existence of a supreme being especially the christian god and therefore any and all references to the teachings of that fictitious god whether written or vocal should be given the same credence as a fairy tale. unlike you i dont need religious books written thousands of years ago by some men and sanctified by other men who wanted power over people to serve as my yardstick for making judgements. i have acquired my means of judgement from experience and observation not from being training like a dog as a child and then regurgitating the proverbs and bible passages as if they were some kind of infallible truth and i damned sure dont want a president who takes direction from the bible instead of the law of the land. president bush made a speech and in the course of his speech he held up the bible and said this is the guidebook not federal regulations. that scares me a lot more than any perceived threat from terrorists. .

From : tbone

jeff mayner wrote you sir are nuts if you think the media is liberal. much of the media is most certainly left biased. clear channel and a few other networks that are not left biased are rare. lol funny how anyone that doesnt agree with your extremely narrow right wing viewpoint is biased. the commie boogeyman was put away long ago. not so. they are alive and well in the far left liberal party. hahahahahhaha more fear tactics. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : craig christian

yup latest polls show new joiiiiiiiiizey is now a toss up! bush has closed kerrys lead. better yet bush has closed kerrys lead on the entire left coast to single digits. those 55 electoral votes in california are going to be bushs soon. latest electoral vote count is bush-291 kerry-228 270 electoral votes are required for a win. www.electoral-vote.com john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : miles

once again colloquialisms seem to escape you. not all who attend church are bible thumpers and not all who live in mobile homes are trailer trash. for your edification a bible thumper is someone who tries in a forceful or enthusiastic way to persuade other people to believe in the christian religion and the bible or who continually quotes the bible as though lacking the ability to form an original thought. trailer trash is a derogatory term used to describe lower-class whites regardless of where they actually live. you have a very compartmented outlook on life. how long did you work for mr webster the guy who writes dictionaries john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : craig christian

-- remove shorts to reply nope you said a cat; kinda ambiguous since a 3406 would be a tight squeeze in a pickup. so would a c series cummins but thats been done. if i happen to prefer an inefficient 635 c.i. v8 with 400+ hp and physical dimensions favorable to swapping thats just me. i routinely swap out efficient slant sixes in favor of gas guzzling inefficient 440s. which makes sense in the gasoline burning world. it lacks sense in the diesel world. so says you. according to your logic a 4-cylinder perkins could pull a class 8 truck over the rockies so thats the way to go. well i suppose if you geared the sucker low enough.................. g denny .

From : budd cochran

for your edification a bible thumper is someone who tries in a forceful or enthusiastic way to persuade other people to believe in the christian religion and the bible or who continually quotes the bible as though lacking the ability to form an original thought. trailer trash is a derogatory term used to describe lower-class whites regardless of where they actually live. yep youre a bigot. and in a way i am also. i think anyone that has an attitude like yours probably figures that the bible thumpers are sub-human and the trailer trash are unworthy of assistance and that you are somehow superior to both groups. youre not. romans 323 and 623 kjv there ive done my bible thumping. bye! budd .

From : tbone

tbone wrote because your comparrison was apples to oranges and you know it. you cant spin out of something that is still in print stupid .....i didnt make a comparison you did. but even forgetting the stupid diesel to gas burner comparrision you are also comparing the programming of a super truck th that of a work truck whic is even more retarded. wow ....... trying to spin again again by making another dumb comparison then say i did it. you dont even have the balls to stick to your own blabbering. put the two of them together and you have a budd. a level you still havent achieved. i guess that depends on what is considered as over boost and intent of the vehicle doesnt it pinhead. sure does and you havent a clue what that is do you stupid. every time you open your mouth you prove you are one dumb ass. dont you ever get tired of looking stupid to the world.......... jerry .

From : tbone

steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote well at least the guy was honest. i wonder how the sand got into their tanks at such a high volume to begin with hes thinking possibly a couple of weeks ago when we had all the flooding and such...several stations in charlotte that were underwater are actually getting new tanks installed.. i forgot about that flooding we didnt get it all that bad up here. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote are ya sure that it came from the gas station. did you piss anybody off. if i were you i would move quickly on this before they change their pump filters of your gonna have a hell of a time proving it was them. 1-locking caps. 2-checked with the owner today and hes paying for everything. 3-it pays to know the people that you buy from.... turns out i am one of about 50 that have complained in the last week and he found 4 units out in front that didnt have the right filters on them...so its cool...and i was thinking along your lines..hurry the hell up or you eat the bill... we agreed that he would just pay the old mans shop for the parts and labor and wholesale on the parts...so hes getting out easy. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote got a check engine light last night. pulled code with a drb and had a p0302....misfire on cylinder #2. checked cap rotor wire and plug....everythings fine... hummm...at 17000 miles kinda odd...but not out of the realm of possibilities.. so...fire it backup and sure enough..comes back with a 302and a 303.... check a few more items and finally find the problem...fuel pressures dropped considerably...got to love bad gas....lol...dropped the tank and i think the local bp station and i are gonna have a nice long talk about sand.... -- new sig file stolen from alt.autos.corvettes shut up dave. .

From : budd cochran

tom good advise. i talked with bd today and thats what they advised. your also correct about the ecm. bd uses the term ecm which is incorrect in the case of the dodge. i did learn a couple more things when i started to dig into things. the module is an auto-loc not a torq-loc. sorry... i monitored the tcc line coming from the module to the clutch with a laptop. it registered approx. 12.5 volts with both the auto-loc and the ignition turned off. then i drove it with the auto-loc switched off and you could see when the tcc tried to lock-up at around 45 mph. the line dropped momentarily to 0v and would drop in time with the surge. it was the same on the line coming from the pcm to the auto-loc. i forced the line low with a jumper and the tcc locked. that would lead me to believe the clutch is ok. i monitored the wss speed sensor line coming from the pcm to the auto-loc. im not sure what the signal is supposed to look like but it seemed erratic peaking around 5v. however im not having speedometer problems and it does try to lock up around 45 mph. so the wss abs system seems to be ok. no lights - no trouble codes. shop manual some help but not much with diagnostics. ill keep you advised. .

From : miles

maxpower wrote i would say yours is....the v10 and the deisel engine does not have the oil consumption technical service bulletin as the other engines chrysler uses there fore it makes a difference.. it would... if there had been any ram 250 vans built with the v10 or diesel... wanna try to dig that hole a little deeper or are you just gonna step out of it now you must be one of the guys that come into a parts department and ask for an certain part without stating what engine you have then complain because you got the wrong part !!!! iow it doesnt make any difference which engine he has. now which is the dumbest post yours is still the dumbest maxpower wrote i must say this is one of the dumbest posts i have ever read does anyone no what engine the vehicle has i mean it does make a big difference!!! its a 96 ram 250. it can have one of 3 different engines 3.9 5.2 5.9 and the vast majority of ram 250s had one of those engines 5.9 and ill wager that somewhere between none and .1% had the 3.9. all 3 engines are the same family same overall design. 2 of them even use exactly the same pistons and rings 3.9 and 5.2 all 3 use the same design cylinder heads and intake manifolds. iow it doesnt make any difference which engine he has. now which is the dumbest post .

From : craig christian

john theres a little problem with your phrase bible thumping trailer trash ...it makes you a bigot and thats totally against the publicly divulged liberal platform. bigot i am liberal im not; hate them too. wow! an equal opportunity hater cool. did you ever figure out who swiped the wheels off your trailer your comebacks are as unoriginal as your biased posts. .

From : jerry

has anyone had any luck with dc getting them to warranty the chrome pitting problems and while misleading their customers into thinking that they have chrome rims while they really have plastic hubcaps. thanks! .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote do you always need to resort to labeling and name calling when someone doesnt agree with you lol ............... talk about pot and kettle .......lol jerry .

From : tbone

i have a 1996 ram 1500with a 318 auto with 250k miles on it. it recently started to back fire when i accelerate other than that it runs fine. i rebuilt the top end at 240k and one of the o2 senors is bad. anyone have any thoughts on what it might be the only error code i get is for the o2 sensor. thanks david .

From : budd cochran

aha a nimby in the making . . .not in my back yard ; i dont think thats a label that fits. i think we should come up with an alternative to drilling alaska. have you ever been there have you been to the location that bush/cheney have suggested that we start drilling i have ... and it should be a crime to destroy it. what alternative where theres a nimby bunch everywhere that can justify why drilling expansion timber cutting ad nauseum should not be done somewhere. somewhere is always someones backyard. i realize that english must be a second language to you but i believe that he meant another source of energy. and you demonstrate you dont think and have no reading comprhension skills troll. go back to your hole before you hurt your braincell. i knew what he meant but you cant understand my point idiot-troll . . . well thats normal for you. just a few years back there was a bunch protesting exploratiory drilling near my current home moab ut and they picketed wearing polyester clothes yakking on cell phones in their nike crodss-trainers and making kids too young to understand what it was all about carry picket signs. yea thats what it was all about carrying picket signs. you trolling skills are slipping. you want to see beauty canon city co and its environs moab ut and its arches south central indiana and the hardwood forests in the fall a sunset on tin can beach in so cal. . . .ya wanna talk beauty ive seen it. and yet you could give a rats ass about it. the fact that your grandchildren possibly never will means nothing huh budd. as long as you get to stay ignorant. unlike you and other evolutionists i dont see any evidence of a multi-billion year history of the universe. around me here in moab are huge piles of what was once mud there is no evidence of erosion between layers theyre too smooth too flat. the slickrock areas look just like the piles of adobe mud and sand left in the fields after a flood type irrigation when i worked in the colorado prairie fields. as a teen. the same type layering took place as well. there are no transistional fossils. there are human tracks in the same sedimentary layer as dinosaur tracks dragons anyonescientists gather skeletal shards from miles apart and then claim they belong together. thre are creatures on this earth that those same scientists claim go back to the age of dinosaurs unchanged why didnt the alligators crocodiles sharks komodo dragons et al evolve with everything else right troll whos believing the garbage and being the unthinking idiot you thats who. sorry craig but your completely deceived. first theres enough oil under the north shore alone to supply us needs completely for 5000 years hahahahahahahahahaha where do you get this shit. from a popular media magazine in the 70s . . .back when you were still in grade school. it also gave the environmentalist prediction and a european source that said there was only a 500- 700 year supply there. wheres you proof the report is wrong i am summerizing from a book i read about alaska 2 years ago. i would be interested in knowing where your figures come from. perhaps mine are in error. and who wrote the book environmentalists think of it like this if there was as little oil as your book claimed then trucking the crude would have been a cheaper option than building that huge pipeline. not really since it would cost more to truck it then they would make refining it if they transported it that way. right . . .with your lack of business knowledge this comment is to be expected. secondly our civilization is too dependent on it to ever give up oil and third read my reply to jeff and think about how many oil based products you use yourself then multiply that by 3/4 of the world population. i understand what you are saying and i realize that a sudden switch off of oil is unrealistic. but we can move the process along faster than we have. bush made some progress but he could have done better. there are a couple of reasons why he didnt 1 his major contributors are oil companies 2 he comes from the oil mentality himself and 3 i dont think he really gives a shit about the environment. his record proves that. and your info has a definite liberal bias. kerry is getting his monies fron the heinz family. thats better than an oil source not to me. of course not you are a right wing puppet. the difference is that heinz is family owned while bush and his cabinet are big oil owned but i bet that you dont see the difference. and you are a left wing troll-boy. of course im guessing here but suspect that many many thousands of jobs could be created at every level r&d manfacturing sales if more time money and energy was focused on viable alternative energy. first a viable energy source needs to be developed discovered invented or currently

From : miles

then why do you act like one lol act like what budd i forgot with you its not acting when youre an idiotic troll its just the real you peeking thru. the old proverbs go like this lie down with dogs and youll get up with fleas. if it looks like a duck quacks like a duck acts like a duck then it most likely is a duck. but that is your opinion and you being what i consider to be an extreme right wing puppet how much stock would i take in your opinion. no again youre wrong troll. those proverbs are from a long time ago when it still was important to be a viable part of a community whether it was your town nation or a little internet group. tom have you ever considered the possibility that the whole reason you catch heck in this group is because of your attitudes toward others you are probably right but the funny thing is that you really are no better. the only real difference between us is that you are also on the extreme right wing with many here and i am not. if thety were true then id be catching it as much as you do but wait . .. .no i dont. i only catch heck from the group troll you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving may i suggest if you find a you have a strange desire to try skydiving that you get to a shrink to be treated for suicidal tendencies . . . -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : tbone

then why do you act like one lol act like what budd the old proverbs go like this lie down with dogs and youll get up with fleas. if it looks like a duck quacks like a duck acts like a duck then it most likely is a duck. but that is your opinion and you being what i consider to be an extreme right wing puppet how much stock would i take in your opinion. tom have you ever considered the possibility that the whole reason you catch heck in this group is because of your attitudes toward others you are probably right but the funny thing is that you really are no better. the only real difference between us is that you are also on the extreme right wing with many here and i am not. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : john z kerry

i guess the truth hurts huh cant back up your statements so everyone is a crybaby you my man or whatever are a fucking loser. i read this group for truck info and read your loser remarks about your political statements and wonder what the fuck is your problem its been a great 4 years huh and those wmds! wow! .

From : miles

i would say yours is....the v10 and the deisel engine does not have the oil consumption technical service bulletin as the other engines chrysler uses there fore it makes a difference.. you must be one of the guys that come into a parts department and ask for an certain part without stating what engine you have then complain because you got the wrong part !!!! iow it doesnt make any difference which engine he has. now which is the dumbest post yours is still the dumbest maxpower wrote i must say this is one of the dumbest posts i have ever read does anyone no what engine the vehicle has i mean it does make a big difference!!! its a 96 ram 250. it can have one of 3 different engines 3.9 5.2 5.9 and the vast majority of ram 250s had one of those engines 5.9 and ill wager that somewhere between none and .1% had the 3.9. all 3 engines are the same family same overall design. 2 of them even use exactly the same pistons and rings 3.9 and 5.2 all 3 use the same design cylinder heads and intake manifolds. iow it doesnt make any difference which engine he has. now which is the dumbest post .

From : craig christian

well john then youre bigoted toward me. im a fundamental christian conservative living in a mobile home. i had thought you to be better than that. im sorry you feel that way but think on this; is there anything in your own past lifestyle or family tree that could be or has been used to degrade you your family or your ethnic group for what really is a very stupid reason then you can imagine how you just made everyone in mobile homes that attend church feel. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. john theres a little problem with your phrase bible thumping trailer trash ...it makes you a bigot and thats totally against the publicly divulged liberal platform. bigot i am liberal im not; hate them too. .

From : budd cochran

youre the one harping on efficiency not me. the subject is retrofitting what inline six not in the 5.9 family would you retrofit a pickup sized chassis with any one of a number of inline sixes mostly cats. did you miss my answer in the first reply nope you said a cat; kinda ambiguous since a 3406 would be a tight squeeze in a pickup. if i happen to prefer an inefficient 635 c.i. v8 with 400+ hp and physical dimensions favorable to swapping thats just me. i routinely swap out efficient slant sixes in favor of gas guzzling inefficient 440s. .

From : miles

maxpower wrote i must say this is one of the dumbest posts i have ever read does anyone no what engine the vehicle has i mean it does make a big difference!!! its a 96 ram 250. it can have one of 3 different engines 3.9 5.2 5.9 and the vast majority of ram 250s had one of those engines 5.9 and ill wager that somewhere between none and .1% had the 3.9. all 3 engines are the same family same overall design. 2 of them even use exactly the same pistons and rings 3.9 and 5.2 all 3 use the same design cylinder heads and intake manifolds. iow it doesnt make any difference which engine he has. now which is the dumbest post .

From : craig christian

guys if you could replace your cummins 5.9 engine with another diesel...what would it be do you lay awake at night thinking up these ridicules posts actually i was working and had an extra five minutes to kill. id been comparing the economy of several like diesel engines. trying to distinguish which is better. i like what i had to read about the deutz. 1. smaller motor... 2. much torque... 3. mechanical design...like that of the 12 valve cummins... stuart .

From : budd cochran

steve@carolinabreezehvac wrote when i lived in southern ca we used to go into mexico a few times a year. when my first wife was stationed at larrys base there in sierra vista az i went across the border a few times too into a small town called nogales. the main things i would find myself spending money on were gas smokes and the sometimes tylenol. lolololol .................... come on steve. i lived in phoenix for awhile and made a few trips to nogales and gas smokes and tylenol were never on my shopping list. hell i didnt even carry a shopping list. jerry seriously man....i could not get used to the weather out there the first few years. i tried not to buy gas but always ended up exploring a bit more than i planned...i smoke like a freight train..always have.and the only reason i said painkillers lie tylenol is that i remember on two of the trips i had to buy some..i normally keep some on the truck or inthe car but i can remember plain as day trying to explain that to a guy that didnt speak english and he was being an ass.. also..you dont know my wife..lol...i say that jokingly but shes almost required to eat the damn things. ever since her last accident 15 years ago shes been in constant pain...so i run out of them alot...and thats no bull. her dad used to live in phoenix for a while and i am sure that he didnt go looking for those same things either....phoenix imo sucked. .

From : denny

i would have to agree that the converter is not locking. i have a bd brake and torc-loc. its not locking the converter with the switch on. you need to remove the torq-loc and see if the condition still exists. trouble codes. the tps ecm and pcm all contribute to the tc lock-up. the ecm on a 98 doesnt care a bit about anything beyond the flywheel. its strictly an engine controller. a bad tps would manifest itself as a much bigger problem since its directly responsible for the amount of fuel that gets injected. youd have the engine surging all over no matter what gear youre in. the bd are going to say its a dodge problem. where the hell does that leave me go back to where the bd stuff was installed. explain the problem and ask that they temporarily disconnect the torq-loc so that you can rule it out as a problem. if the problem still exists then you can take it to a dealership explain that you removed the lockup controller and the problem still exists. if the problem goes away then get the torq-loc replaced. .

From : jerry

lol i imagine that it does. i live on a private road now so when i get to that stage i can do that too without registering it. i am going to call them tomorrow to schedule a trip to the factory. i want to see the spyder gt first hand before ordering it. if all goes according to plan i will build the new garage in the spring and order the car in the early summer. what engine did you use -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote how is that cobra coming. did you get it back from paint yet no its still in paint shop prison. every time i talk to him he tells me two weeks. starting to sound like a parakeet. been driving the car around the neighborhood a little. thats pretty fun. it looks like a giant go cart right now -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : budd cochran

clyde wrote go back and read the post again .. or better yet go to factcheck.org and get it straight from the horses mouth. well since im the one that posted the link and recommended everyone should check it out i think i know how to get to it. your problem is you dont understand what you actually read. jerry .

From : denny

of representatives august 17 1789 . 222 291137 ckc6k8$ab$0@pita.alt.net i am not a kerry supporter i am anti-bush. put another way you are one confused little puppy. perhaps you could do a write-in vote for perot pretty much what id expect from one who worships at the altar of bush. unlike you and the rest of bushs bible thumping trailer trash voter base i realize that the political system has presented two losers who couldnt lead a boy scout with diarrhea to a port-a-potty. awwww geeeee did someone steal the wheels off your trailer is that what has you so upset today john z kerrypresident t-bone steakhouses .

From : budd cochran

i remember reading in the past where several of the regulars upgraded the u-joint in their steering shaft. what sensation/feedback do you experience when the steering shaft u-joint is going bad i dont experience any wandering or dead band like when the pitman arm or balljoints go bad but i do get a hollow clunking feel thru the steering wheel at times when turning. any help would be appreciated. rich .

From : denny

check out www.factcheck.org seems your idiot does own a piece of a timber company. both of these idiots are playing real loose with the facts. now that i think about it fact check should be a must for some of these fools that subscribe to the party line blindly. what is the saying a educated voter is what a politician fears most. roy .

From : budd cochran

then why do you act like one the old proverbs go like this lie down with dogs and youll get up with fleas. if it looks like a duck quacks like a duck acts like a duck then it most likely is a duck. tom have you ever considered the possibility that the whole reason you catch heck in this group is because of your attitudes toward others -- budd you might as well just give it up. that has been explained to him numerous times and he just spins it back to ya. i just dont reply to his stupid posts anymore. if he posts something decent ill reply if i have something to say otherwise i just ignore him. if more people would do that things would get better around here. have fun denny .

From : tbone

if you could replace your cummins 5.9 engine with another diesel...what would it be cat c7 or more preferably c9...if it would fit. aw .

From : budd cochran

shes just a bitch pure and simple and any man who puts up with her is suspect of having any manhood pretty easy to see who wears the pants in pair politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. hillary -- fmb only one b in fmb .

From : craig christian

kerry said he would not raise income taxes. however he does have a plan to introduce a national sales tax in addition to our federal income taxes. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : budd cochran

guys if you could replace your cummins 5.9 engine with another diesel...what would it be do you lay awake at night thinking up these ridicules posts politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : jerry

heinz kerry = white trash with money inherited money at that. shes just a bitch pure and simple and any man who puts up with her is suspect of having any manhood pretty easy to see who wears the pants in pair politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : budd cochran

as do i but if you even mention anything that is not far right you will probably be labeled as a commie bastard. feeling sorry for yourself today bonehead errrrr t-bone john z kerry president t-bone steakhouses now 68 restaurants in new joiiiiiiizey .

From : john z kerry

craig christian wrote as a matter if fact i do. do you have any idea what clinton did with the bond market i didnt think so. you state that i need to look up information ... perhaps taking a bit of your own advice would help here. yes i do as a matter of fact. doesnt change the fact that bonds did poorly in the 90s. thats often the case when people are fooled into believing the skyrocketing stock market was sustainable despite economists predictions of the opposite. the point i was trying to make is that i still invest and so does everyone else yet we see declines up until recently in our investments. can you explain that the entire global economy is down except the usas. the usa economy is actually growing even though the rest of the world is still falling. ive made quite a bit of money in the market this year easily recouping all of my losses from the prior 4 years. where are the investment dollars going my spending habits havent changed and i think that is probably the case with most americans that still have jobs. youre dillusional to think unemployment is high right now. it is lower than the average of the so called great clinton years. median wages have gone up ahead of inflation meaning people are making more now than in the 90s adjusted for inflation. it is all public record if you take the time to research it rather than just believe the liberal propaganda. tell me which canidate will gain the most votes from bad economic reports i think you know... its a bi-product of trickle down economics. we have reagan to thank for that. reagan boosted the economy greatly. interest rates under carter were double digits as was inflation. reagan got the economy turned around. you might complain about the tax cuts causing the deficit but thats where liberals go wrong. as the economy grew under reagan the governments tax revenue went up considerbably even with the low taxes. liberals just do not seem to understand just how the government gets its money..hint its not just from income taxes not even close. had reagan not cut taxes the economy never would have risen as quickly and the deficit would have been even larger from even lower revenues. true but a lot did produce and continue to produce. thats what the stock market is. so what is your point my point is that the so called great economy of the 90s was not sustainable. it was the publics willingness to blindly invest trillions into high risk stocks. the economy had no where to go but down. i know where it came from. it is still coming from those places. market correction is the nature of the beast. not so. people are not investing trillions into high risk stocks. they learned their lesson from the 90s. republican economics is like me or you deciding that at some point in the future we are going to win the lottery ... so we go ahead and start budgeting and spending now. does it make sense to spend money you dont have does it make sense to tax the heck out of people in a falling economy does it make sense to heavily tax people when they dont have much as it is bush realized the economy would never grow if that were the case. i will agree with you that government spends too much but the answer isnt higher taxes like kerry wants. the problem is that nobody wants to cut social programs for people that are more likely to vote. thats a problem from both sides but especially true of the left who gains the most votes from this policy. well now that depends on what you call employment. many of my friends that use to write software before their jobs went to india now deliver pizza. sigh. another lefty who uses emotions rather than fact. read the labor report. the median income has risen the past few years ahead of inflation. it is public record go research it then tell me the same story. in the past 4 years 2 million jobs have been outsourced. what the left wont tell you is that 9 million have been insourced. again the median income of the insourced jobs per the latest labor report shows they are higher than the outsourced jobs. riiighhhttt ... great economy miles. statiscally at some point during clintons years i suspect you are talking about the first couple of years there was more unemployment. but the jobs were better and higher paying which fueled the kick ass economy we saw on the mid to late 90s under democratic economic leadership ... not republican. fueled by blind investing that was not sustainable. wages are now higher adjusted for inflation. i realize you wont believe my word so take a look at the labor report for facts. its all there even though the dems try to fool you otherwise. btw my company is undergoing its largest expansion in 20 years. things couldnt be better. sure it is everyone is following bushs example ... buy now pay later. that would be true if personal debt were rising. here we g

From : tbone

john kunkel wrote the phenomenon was illustrated by placing a hankerchief over a silver dollar and placing a lit cigarette gasp on the hankerchief. other than a brown smudge the hankerchief is not burned because the coin absorbs the heat; heh heh! kind of reminds me of the goes against commons sense fact that you can boil water in a paper cup over a flame without burning the paper. phenomenon of finite thermal gradient. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter x ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 100000 groups ---= east/west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =--- .

From : miles

i am summerizing from a book i read about alaska 2 years ago. i would be interested in knowing where your figures come from. perhaps mine are in error. and who wrote the book environmentalists think of it like this if there was as little oil as your book claimed then trucking the crude would have been a cheaper option than building that huge pipeline. secondly our civilization is too dependent on it to ever give up oil and third read my reply to jeff and think about how many oil based products you use yourself then multiply that by 3/4 of the world population. i understand what you are saying and i realize that a sudden switch off of oil is unrealistic. but we can move the process along faster than we have. bush made some progress but he could have done better. there are a couple of reasons why he didnt 1 his major contributors are oil companies 2 he comes from the oil mentality himself and 3 i dont think he really gives a shit about the environment. his record proves that. and your info has a definite liberal bias. kerry is getting his monies fron the heinz family. thats better than an oil source not to me. of course im guessing here but suspect that many many thousands of jobs could be created at every level r&d manfacturing sales if more time money and energy was focused on viable alternative energy. first a viable energy source needs to be developed discovered invented or currently nothing can do the job like oil. you need to remember that most of the sources being touted today were replaced by oil not too long ago. not trying to push any hot buttons here but if we spent 120 billion on alternative energy instead kicking iraqs ass wed be a lot closer to a solution that would in the end solve the issue in iraq. if clinton had put that surplus during his administration toward the national debt it wouldnt be as large today as it is. but in reality there was no surplus. as for myself i sleep better knowing saddam is no longer in power. now if we could catch the leasders of the al queda . . . it will be drilled someday even if its your kids that beg for it. well now that depends on who we elect and what alternatives we as a country come up with now doesnt it only in dreams only in dreams. im from the generation that began the whole environmental stuff and were no closer than we were 30 years ago. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. . 222 291048 vtcdnykupioxcrvn-hw@comcast.com you r wrong bill john kunkel wrote john kunkel wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 john kunkel wrote the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. ...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. blanket statements like the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. invite disagreement. if the engine consumes a certain quantity of oil on each full combustion cycle the consumption will increase with engine speed simply because there are more cycles per minute. going with what you just said that would mean that oil consumption on a given engine would be the same amount per mile regardless of speed. iow - if you make a 400 mile trip on straight and level hiway you might make it in 10 hours or in 5 hours depending on whether you drove 40 or 80 mph. but from your statement you would use the exact same amount of oil for that 400 mile trip i.e. oil consumption would be have the same per thousnad mile rate. not saying i agree or disagree with your conclusions - just want to be sure you understand the end result of what youre saying. suppose an engine consumes one microgram of oil on each full combustion cycle two revolutions at 3500 rpm it would consume 1750 micrograms per minute but at 1800 rpm it would only consume 900 micrograms per minute. if a given vehicle is geared so that it turns 3500 rpms at a given road speed it will consume more oil per mile than one geared to turn 1800 rpm at the same road speed. therefore the statement the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. is incorrect. ah! i didnt realize you were talking about varying the engine speed by changing the gear ratio. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter x ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 100000 groups ---= east/west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---

From : craig christian

john kunkel kunkel.j@shorts.comcast.net wrote in a certian minute volume of oil is consumed each cycle due to the surface finish on the cylinder wall. it is designed that way. ring lubrication. depends on what you call minute many engines in good condition go 5000+ miles with no discernible consumption as gauged by the dipstick. in high school auto shop i attained the hasting piston rings doctor of motors certificate i know big deal. the training taught that proper cylinder/ring lubrication can be attained with no loss of the lubricant. the phenomenon was illustrated by placing a hankerchief over a silver dollar and placing a lit cigarette gasp on the hankerchief. other than a brown smudge the hankerchief is not burned because the coin absorbs the heat; same thing happens in the combustion chamber the heat of combustion passes through the microscopic film of oil without burning it away and is absorbed by the mass of the cylinder wall. if not for this phenomenon the oil on the part of the cylinder wall exposed to combustion heat would be burned away and there would be no lubrication for the rings as the piston travels from bdc to tdc on the exhaust stroke; ring life would be very short. by minute i meant an extremely small amount. there is *some* oil burned but you would probably need some pretty sensitive scientific instruments to detect it. -- anthony you cant idiot proof anything....every time you try they just make better idiots. remove sp to reply via email .

From : craig christian

john kunkel wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 john kunkel wrote the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. ...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. blanket statements like the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. invite disagreement. if the engine consumes a certain quantity of oil on each full combustion cycle the consumption will increase with engine speed simply because there are more cycles per minute. going with what you just said that would mean that oil consumption on a given engine would be the same amount per mile regardless of speed. iow - if you make a 400 mile trip on straight and level hiway you might make it in 10 hours or in 5 hours depending on whether you drove 40 or 80 mph. but from your statement you would use the exact same amount of oil for that 400 mile trip i.e. oil consumption would be have the same per thousnad mile rate. not saying i agree or disagree with your conclusions - just want to be sure you understand the end result of what youre saying. suppose an engine consumes one microgram of oil on each full combustion cycle two revolutions at 3500 rpm it would consume 1750 micrograms per minute but at 1800 rpm it would only consume 900 micrograms per minute. if a given vehicle is geared so that it turns 3500 rpms at a given road speed it will consume more oil per mile than one geared to turn 1800 rpm at the same road speed. therefore the statement the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. is incorrect. .