New Truck
From : bob
Q: new to me anyway. ive been driving a 01 dakota qc since 2000. nice truck but time for it to go for a variety of reasons. bought a 07 ram 2500 qc with the ctd auto and 4x4. what a nice truck this is. lots of torque. my only experiance with diesel has been military vehicles and rental trucks. so i dont know a whole lot about them. i have no plans to mod this truck. performance wise its fine just the way it is. ill add some comfort items and maybe some appearance items. no lift kits cai tuners or exhaust mods. ill consider some longevity items like a sector shaft support. otherwise nothing planned. the name of the game is longevity and reliability not performance. i have a car for that. i do have one question. what is the optimum operating temp for this diesel 190-200* -------- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2008 mustang coupe 2007 ram 2500 qc ctd/auto/4x4 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
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From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
btw well be driving the dodge and ill report on the mileage. ;- to hawaii that will be interesting. hey look everyone! i got another bite! you make it too easy roy. well the mileage on the dodge was 17.2 the mileage on the 757 was 2.56 gallons per mile. 188 passengers and a full crew so some math head will have to figure the mpg per person. kauai hawaii. saw all of it every beach every main section of road and most waterfalls. a highly suggested trip sharply contrasting from the las vegas carnival atmosphere of the larger islands. id move there is a heartbeat and could still keep in touch with roy. steve .
From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
steve lusardi wrote about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve thats about what i thought. it really does take a long time to heat up in the winter. even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes it took quite a while to heat up. much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. and it was only about 20* out. i installed the dodge winter cover too. letting a cummins idle isnt really the best thing for it. the cooling system is real efficent so it will warm a bit then cool. youd be better off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. or plug it in. i start mine up daily and let it warm up before i get in it. my manual says nothing about letting it warm up. where i live is four miles from the freeway. am i supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before i get on the freeway nope in your case start it up and stand on it. let us know how that works for you. if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. ill do whatever i want with it. but im afraid that with your control freak issues it will not be okay. in that case just cope. youre an adult. btw page 254 of the owners manual sez if temperatures are below 32 f operate the engine at moderate speeds for five minutes before full loads are applied. re lower temps on the same page it sez avoid prolonged idling in ambient temperatures below 0 f. there is information on manifold air preheating engine block heaters etc also. you do have an owners manual dont you no you only want to own a dodge truck some day ................ sigh ....................... as to the ops question and others who have contributed the best thing to do is read your manual until you understand it. particularly the wait to start light if your truck is so equipped. steve steve .
From : roy
steve lusardi wrote about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve thats about what i thought. it really does take a long time to heat up in the winter. even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes it took quite a while to heat up. much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. and it was only about 20* out. i installed the dodge winter cover too. letting a cummins idle isnt really the best thing for it. the cooling system is real efficent so it will warm a bit then cool. youd be better off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. or plug it in. i start mine up daily and let it warm up before i get in it. my manual says nothing about letting it warm up. where i live is four miles from the freeway. am i supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before i get on the freeway nope in your case start it up and stand on it. let us know how that works for you. if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. ill do whatever i want with it. but im afraid that with your control freak issues it will not be okay. in that case just cope. youre an adult. you asked a question i answered you expilcitly. now your unhappy. next time dont ask. btw page 254 of the owners manual sez if temperatures are below 32 f operate the engine at moderate speeds for five minutes before full loads are applied. re lower temps on the same page it sez avoid prolonged idling in ambient temperatures below 0 f. there is information on manifold air preheating engine block heaters etc also. you do have an owners manual dont you no you only want to own a dodge truck some day .. yup ya got me sherlock i never owned a dodge truck and have no knowledge of diesels. sigh ....................... as to the ops question and others who have contributed the best thing to do is read your manual until you understand it. particularly the wait to start light if your truck is so equipped. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light .
From : Annonymous
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From : greg surratt
greg surratt wrote otoh if they were building it at the st. louis plant it would already be there . . . arent all ctds assembled in mexico craig c. .
From : mike simmons
well the dealer replaced my engine short block 4.7l and i still have a vibration. i still think it is in the suspension. seems to accentuate or even reverberate from the existing road surface. took my 2004 expedition over the same road and could feel a similar but less pronounced vibration in that vehicle. is there anyone that knows if this is to be expected from a 2003 could it be something in the suspension i dont want to go back to the dealer if this is just one of those things. on the otherhand it is annoying if it can or should be fixed. gary .
From : Annonymous
wtb 3500 cummins std trans flat bed .
From : greg surratt
uh maybe test the alternator..... duhhh -- steve williams my 1992 dodge dakota alternator is charging 14.5 volts all the time and has ruined two batteries all wiring seems to be ok any help would be appreciated ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .
From : moparman
your injection pump may not be too far behind. hopefully it will fail while still under warranty. brian wrote well this is canada eh! was quoted $600 to remove and replace with part included so did not know what was actual part price. when i picked up the truck was surprised with the fact my warrantee covered the job with $100 deductible. so cannot tell you the part price after all. .
From : miles
current rebate is $2500. msrp over invoice on a diesel quad cab 4x4 is about $3500. the more options then the larger the spread. look for a 2004 and offer invoice - $2500 rebate. they should take it no problem considering the 2005s are already on the lots. if you work for a large corporation ask if they are part of chryslers rewards program. also companies that are suppliers to chrysler are also elgible. this program gets you another $1000 + 1% under invoice. pj wrote what is the going discount for a new dodge right now i see all of these ridiculous prices in the paper -- are they actual what has someone paid cash for a new truck i am looking for a four door diesel four wheel drive. pj .
From : van
offer invoice does the dealer make his money on the hold back then or does he make nothing cant see that. my problem is that i can get a new ford diesel for $1000 to $2000 under invoice + rebates with a supplier like plan i have....but i dont trust the 6.0l powerstroke. i will go with the ctd if i can get it at about invoice +rebates. was planning on sept to buy and see if the rebates go higher. but if they can do invoice i will bite now. current rebate is $2500. msrp over invoice on a diesel quad cab 4x4 is about $3500. the more options then the larger the spread. look for a 2004 and offer invoice - $2500 rebate. they should take it no problem considering the 2005s are already on the lots. if you work for a large corporation ask if they are part of chryslers rewards program. also companies that are suppliers to chrysler are also elgible. this program gets you another $1000 + 1% under invoice. pj wrote what is the going discount for a new dodge right now i see all of these ridiculous prices in the paper -- are they actual what has someone paid cash for a new truck i am looking for a four door diesel four wheel drive. pj .
From : mee
got sick & tired years ago of dealing with liar cheating coniving dealer salesmen. they lie & cheat for a living. maybe that is why carmax is growing leaps and bounds nationwide oboe .
From : brianh
yup and it worked for me. last month got a 2003 with 4000 miles on it. new to me. got sick & tired years ago of dealing with liar cheating coniving dealer salesmen. they lie & cheat for a living. maybe that is why carmax is growing leaps and bounds nationwide oboe .
From : big al
offer invoice does the dealer make his money on the hold back then or does he make nothing cant see that. my problem is that i can get a new ford diesel for $1000 to $2000 under invoice + rebates with a supplier like plan i have....but i dont trust the 6.0l powerstroke. i will go with the ctd if i can get it at about invoice +rebates. was planning on sept to buy and see if the rebates go higher. but if they can do invoice i will bite now. current rebate is $2500. msrp over invoice on a diesel quad cab 4x4 is about $3500. the more options then the larger the spread. look for a 2004 and offer invoice - $2500 rebate. they should take it no problem considering the 2005s are already on the lots. if you work for a large corporation ask if they are part of chryslers rewards program. also companies that are suppliers to chrysler are also elgible. this program gets you another $1000 + 1% under invoice. pj wrote what is the going discount for a new dodge right now i see all of these ridiculous prices in the paper -- are they actual what has someone paid cash for a new truck i am looking for a four door diesel four wheel drive. pj many dealers will arrange for you to buy a friends and family discount. its a good discount. al .
From : keith
i went by a dealer last weekend with my brother in law just to look and when the sales lady came out just out of curiosity i asked her what kind of discount could she give me on a new ram and right off the bat she said $7500!. i figured you could probably another grand off just with a liitle dickering. i sure thought about it...he he. keith t .
From : miles
the sales people will often toss out some absurdly low figure. it gets you inside the office where theyll give you the real number. currently rams have $2500 rebates. on a diesel quad cab 4x4 there is about a $3500 difference between the invoice and msrp. im not aware there is any factory to dealer cash. 47500 might be possible on an 04 but another grand might be a bit hard to get. not a bad deal. i want one but i just bought my wife a hemi durango so i guess i have to wait now! keith wrote i went by a dealer last weekend with my brother in law just to look and when the sales lady came out just out of curiosity i asked her what kind of discount could she give me on a new ram and right off the bat she said $7500!. i figured you could probably another grand off just with a liitle dickering. i sure thought about it...he he. keith t .
From : ihatespam
tell the dodge dealer just that. he will definitely bite. offer invoice does the dealer make his money on the hold back then or does he make nothing cant see that. my problem is that i can get a new ford diesel for $1000 to $2000 under invoice + rebates with a supplier like plan i have....but i dont trust the 6.0l powerstroke. i will go with the ctd if i can get it at about invoice +rebates. was planning on sept to buy and see if the rebates go higher. but if they can do invoice i will bite now. current rebate is $2500. msrp over invoice on a diesel quad cab 4x4 is about $3500. the more options then the larger the spread. look for a 2004 and offer invoice - $2500 rebate. they should take it no problem considering the 2005s are already on the lots. if you work for a large corporation ask if they are part of chryslers rewards program. also companies that are suppliers to chrysler are also elgible. this program gets you another $1000 + 1% under invoice. pj wrote what is the going discount for a new dodge right now i see all of these ridiculous prices in the paper -- are they actual what has someone paid cash for a new truck i am looking for a four door diesel four wheel drive. pj .
From : big al
the sales people will often toss out some absurdly low figure. it gets you inside the office where theyll give you the real number. currently rams have $2500 rebates. on a diesel quad cab 4x4 there is about a $3500 difference between the invoice and msrp. im not aware there is any factory to dealer cash. 47500 might be possible on an 04 but another grand might be a bit hard to get. not a bad deal. i want one but i just bought my wife a hemi durango so i guess i have to wait now! i pick mine up monday in st. louis. 04 long bed 4x4 regular cab six speed 600 diesel slt. $30 278. has ls rear end trailer package power mirrors fog lamps 6 way seat sliding window tow hooks skid plates speed control and so on. book it on line and see what the retail is. im under dealer invoice and i could get an 05 for about $2k more. i just hope like hell the body is better than my 92 w250 and the driveline is 90% as good im driving the new truck back and i have more faith in the 92. chevy gives you a rock my 92 is an anvil. ive beat it for many years and it wont quit. way ot here the new 04 mustangs are going for less than i paid for my new 89! al .
From : miles
van wrote offer invoice does the dealer make his money on the hold back then or does he make nothing cant see that. my problem is that i can get a new ford diesel for $1000 to $2000 under invoice + rebates with a supplier like plan i have....but i dont trust the 6.0l powerstroke. i will go with the ctd if i can get it at about invoice +rebates. was planning on sept to buy and see if the rebates go higher. but if they can do invoice i will bite now. yes theyll make the holdback amount. because 2005s are now on the lot they should be more than willing to sell the 2004 at invoice minus rebates. .
From : nosey
big al wrote the sales people will often toss out some absurdly low figure. it gets you inside the office where theyll give you the real number. currently rams have $2500 rebates. on a diesel quad cab 4x4 there is about a $3500 difference between the invoice and msrp. im not aware there is any factory to dealer cash. 47500 might be possible on an 04 but another grand might be a bit hard to get. not a bad deal. i want one but i just bought my wife a hemi durango so i guess i have to wait now! i pick mine up monday in st. louis. 04 long bed 4x4 regular cab six speed 600 diesel slt. $30 278. has ls rear end trailer package power mirrors fog lamps 6 way seat sliding window tow hooks skid plates speed control and so on. book it on line and see what the retail is. im under dealer invoice and i could get an 05 for about $2k more. i just hope like hell the body is better than my 92 w250 and the driveline is 90% as good im driving the new truck back and i have more faith in the 92. chevy gives you a rock my 92 is an anvil. ive beat it for many years and it wont quit. way ot here the new 04 mustangs are going for less than i paid for my new 89! al your new ram is les
From : jerry
nosey wrote your new ram is less than what i paid for my new 2500 qc 4x4 ctd/auto in 99. you to huh! course i bought my 99 in california but every year for the past 3 years here in oklahoma they are cheaper than what i paid in 1999. live and learn i guess. jerry .
From : ldenn2
makes no difference cash or credit. the dealer gets a kickback if they arrange financing. they price is real if it is in stock. its the salesmans job to sell you up. you have to add title insurance maybe pay transportation charges and other charges. in my state this adds about $500.00 to the price. oh yes the salesman gets a good commission from the maintained agreement. what is the going discount for a new dodge right now i see all of these ridiculous prices in the paper -- are they actual what has someone paid cash for a new truck i am looking for a four door diesel four wheel drive. pj .
From : kg
go to the dealer and make a deal for a price w/ financing and then pay cash. the agreed upon price w/ financing is not showing dealer/salesman commission. or keep going to the same dealer for 14 years buying 5 trucks and then you know youll have best price. 04 ram 2500 lb 4x4 larime 4.10 posi rear. easier to write i didnt get the gps radio or clearance lights. final selling price 33 and change. makes no difference cash or credit. the dealer gets a kickback if they arrange financing. they price is real if it is in stock. its the salesmans job to sell you up. you have to add title insurance maybe pay transportation charges and other charges. in my state this adds about $500.00 to the price. oh yes the salesman gets a good commission from the maintained agreement. what is the going discount for a new dodge right now i see all of these ridiculous prices in the paper -- are they actual what has someone paid cash for a new truck i am looking for a four door diesel four wheel drive. pj .
From : steve lusardi
about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve new to me anyway. ive been driving a 01 dakota qc since 2000. nice truck but time for it to go for a variety of reasons. bought a 07 ram 2500 qc with the ctd auto and 4x4. what a nice truck this is. lots of torque. my only experiance with diesel has been military vehicles and rental trucks. so i dont know a whole lot about them. i have no plans to mod this truck. performance wise its fine just the way it is. ill add some comfort items and maybe some appearance items. no lift kits cai tuners or exhaust mods. ill consider some longevity items like a sector shaft support. otherwise nothing planned. the name of the game is longevity and reliability not performance. i have a car for that. i do have one question. what is the optimum operating temp for this diesel 190-200* -------- .bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2008 mustang coupe 2007 ram 2500 qc ctd/auto/4x4 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : bob
steve lusardi wrote about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve thats about what i thought. it really does take a long time to heat up in the winter. even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes it took quite a while to heat up. much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. and it was only about 20* out. i installed the dodge winter cover too. the sector shaft is through the middle of the steering box. the pitman arm is connected to it. apparently due to weight and strain that shaft can wear out rather quickly and cause poor steering response. http//www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/showthread.phpt=58674 -------- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2008 mustang coupe 2007 ram 2500 ctd/auto/4x4 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : roy
steve lusardi wrote about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve thats about what i thought. it really does take a long time to heat up in the winter. even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes it took quite a while to heat up. much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. and it was only about 20* out. i installed the dodge winter cover too. letting a cummins idle isnt really the best thing for it. the cooling system is real efficent so it will warm a bit then cool. youd be better off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. or plug it in. .
From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
steve lusardi wrote about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve thats about what i thought. it really does take a long time to heat up in the winter. even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes it took quite a while to heat up. much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. and it was only about 20* out. i installed the dodge winter cover too. the sector shaft is through the middle of the steering box. the pitman arm is connected to it. apparently due to weight and strain that shaft can wear out rather quickly and cause poor steering response. http//www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/showthread.phpt=58674 -------- .bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2008 mustang coupe 2007 ram 2500 ctd/auto/4x4 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. i see big trucks all the time that have a canvas screen in front of their radiators and its only like a quarter open. we drove last night down from a town 30 miles from us. nearly a white out on the freeway. slow going on a bad stretch of road. when i got home i had icicles on my front grill and the temp gauge was one needle width under the 190. steve .
From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
steve lusardi wrote about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve thats about what i thought. it really does take a long time to heat up in the winter. even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes it took quite a while to heat up. much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. and it was only about 20* out. i installed the dodge winter cover too. letting a cummins idle isnt really the best thing for it. the cooling system is real efficent so it will warm a bit then cool. youd be better off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. or plug it in. i start mine up daily and let it warm up before i get in it. my manual says nothing about letting it warm up. where i live is four miles from the freeway. am i supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before i get on the freeway whats the difference between letting it warm it up in the driveway and driving it slow for fifteen minutes steve .
From : bob
steveb wrote i see big trucks all the time that have a canvas screen in front of their radiators and its only like a quarter open. dodge sells a radiator cover. from what i read its the best around. i paid $135 for it at the dealer. it took me about 15 minutes to install. and that includes opening the box and reading the instructions. it has flaps to open and close depending on the weather. driving down the highway last night i had only two flaps open. engine temp was just a little below 200*; right where it is supposed to be. -------- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2008 mustang coupe 2007 ram 2500 ctd/auto/4x4 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : roy
steve lusardi wrote about 190 to 210. you will notice that it takes awhile to reach that temp. in cold weather. what is a sector shaft let alone a support for one steve thats about what i thought. it really does take a long time to heat up in the winter. even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes it took quite a while to heat up. much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. and it was only about 20* out. i installed the dodge winter cover too. letting a cummins idle isnt really the best thing for it. the cooling system is real efficent so it will warm a bit then cool. youd be better off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. or plug it in. i start mine up daily and let it warm up before i get in it. my manual says nothing about letting it warm up. where i live is four miles from the freeway. am i supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before i get on the freeway nope in your case start it up and stand on it. let us know how that works for you. .
From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. the only one that should be embarrassed is you. but you dont get it but you will. you gonna stalk me or what .
From : roy
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. the only one that should be embarrassed is you. but you dont get it but you will. you gonna stalk me or what nah ill just point out when youve been a asshole. so far thats been frequent. .
From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. the only one that should be embarrassed is you. but you dont get it but you will. you gonna stalk me or what nah ill just point out when youve been a asshole. so far thats been frequent. im glad you finally have a purpose in life roy. but i wont make it easy for you. in a few hours i will be leaving for lawai kauai hawaii. ill be gone for ten days. in the meantime do not forget your mission and gather as much information as you can. btw well be driving the dodge and ill report on the mileage. ;- steve .
From : roy
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. the only one that should be embarrassed is you. but you dont get it but you will. you gonna stalk me or what nah ill just point out when youve been a asshole. so far thats been frequent. im glad you finally have a purpose in life roy. but i wont make it easy for you. you make it easy every time you post. in a few hours i will be leaving for lawai kauai hawaii. ill be gone for ten days. now i dont have to feel like a proctologist. in the meantime do not forget your mission and gather as much information as you can. information about you nah know all i have to. btw well be driving the dodge and ill report on the mileage. ;- to hawaii that will be interesting. .
From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. the only one that should be embarrassed is you. but you dont get it but you will. you gonna stalk me or what nah ill just point out when youve been a asshole. so far thats been frequent. im glad you finally have a purpose in life roy. but i wont make it easy for you. you make it easy every time you post. in a few hours i will be leaving for lawai kauai hawaii. ill be gone for ten days. now i dont have to feel like a proctologist. in the meantime do not forget your mission and gather as much information as you can. information about you nah know all i have to. btw well be driving the dodge and ill report on the mileage. ;- to hawaii that will be interesting. hey look everyone! i got another bite! you make it too easy roy. bwahahaha steve who is really leaving now to drive to the airport in las vegas although he knows a shortcut to lawai. .
From : roy
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. the only one that should be embarrassed is you. but you dont get it but you will. you gonna stalk me or what nah ill just point out when youve been a asshole. so far thats been frequent. im glad you finally have a purpose in life roy. but i wont make it easy for you. you make it easy every time you post. in a few hours i will be leaving for lawai kauai hawaii. ill be gone for ten days. now i dont have to feel like a proctologist. in the meantime do not forget your mission and gather as much information as you can. information about you nah know all i have to. btw well be driving the dodge and ill report on the mileage. ;- to hawaii that will be interesting. hey look everyone! i got another bite! you make it too easy roy. bwahahaha steve who is really leaving now to drive to the airport in las vegas although he knows a shortcut to lawai. no pal you continue to play. when im done with you ill put you back on the shelf. .
From : steveb toquerville zionvistas
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. steve .
From : roy
roy roy@home.net wrote if its okay with you i wrote a check for my truck and i drove it off. is that supposed to impress anybody here i told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. ya should have listened. folks gotta be smilin now. what dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent have a wait to start light my 06 has one but it only comes on in cold weather. the weather where i live does not activate it so i have never seen it. so it does but it doesnt. im sorry if i embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck. the sales lady was sure happy. the only one that should be embarrassed is you. but you dont get it but you will. .