New Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel in 2007
From : mcraigchr gmail com
Q: currently in the diesel fuel we use is dropping to 15ppm. since sulfur acts as a lubricant i was wondering what impact if any it will have. sulphur does not act as a lubricant. however the process thats used to eliminate the sulphur also decreases the fuels lubricity. end result is the same but its how you get there that matters engine manufacturers have known about these coming changes for a while now and the injection pumps injectors etc. that rely on fuel for their lubrication are designed to work with the ulsd fuels. it shouldnt be a problem. .
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From : napalmheart
on thu 24 aug 2006 122209 -0500 bob txasylum@cox.net wrote i met a guy who recently had his fuel injectors replaced on his 2001 dodge ram 2500 diesel cummins 5.9l. he tells me he gets 25 mpg with these new robert bosch rv fuel injectors. before he got only 19mpg +/-. he showed me his overhead display for that tank as proof of his claim. has anyone else seen this type of gain with these tim dont trust the overhead computer readout. mine is 1.5 miles per gallon off. the real test is the old fashion way of using your brain and calculating the mileage. while i cant speak for a dodge the readout on my duramax is also off slightly compared to my actual calculations but its consistent. while it may not give dead on numbers its easy to see trends. i think it would be close enough to show an increase from 19 - 25 although in reality it may be 17.5 - 23.5. as said by tom l if you change the injectors with ones with a different flow rating from the originals the mileage readings from the trip computer are now meaningless. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : 617211
hey gurus i can pickup a set of 99 ram 17 factory 5 spoke 5 bolt wheels. will they fit my 02 dakota 5 bolt - same bolt pattern near enough offset obviously it will clear brakes if i only have 16s now... tires will be chosen to closely match height of my 16s .... thx my 03 dakota is 6 bolt as was my 97. i thought they changed in 05. .
From : chris thompson
i checked with stanadyne as i use their fuel conditioner & according to them the lubricity level will be taken care of at the refinery - just adding another additive someone ask one of the refineries! .
From : chris thompson
chris thompson wrote i run b20 when i can. and have no complaints. i have noticed a reduction in smoke no real notible drop in mpg or power. you know ive heard many people say that but honestly i dont know how i would be able to tell. on regular diesel i usually fill up at phillips 66/conoco my truck does not smoke unless i bury the accelerator which has happened ... twice. one of those times was to see if i could get it to smoke. - otherwise there is never any smoke at all. i have even driven behind it in a different car while the girlfriend drove my truck ... no smoke. is my truck an exception to the rule for the 305/555 engine craig c. uh when i put my foot down on the floor it goes clank. *grin* yes there usually is no noticeable smoke in normal driving but i play a lot = youve only buried the accel twice sheesh! i passed that on the first day. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .
From : roy
on thu 24 aug 2006 122209 -0500 bob txasylum@cox.net wrote i met a guy who recently had his fuel injectors replaced on his 2001 dodge ram 2500 diesel cummins 5.9l. he tells me he gets 25 mpg with these new robert bosch rv fuel injectors. before he got only 19mpg +/-. he showed me his overhead display for that tank as proof of his claim. has anyone else seen this type of gain with these tim dont trust the overhead computer readout. mine is 1.5 miles per gallon off. the real test is the old fashion way of using your brain and calculating the mileage. while i cant speak for a dodge the readout on my duramax is also off slightly compared to my actual calculations but its consistent. while it may not give dead on numbers its easy to see trends. i think it would be close enough to show an increase from 19 - 25 although in reality it may be 17.5 - 23.5. does the doge have an instant mpg readout dj .
From : mcraigchr gmail com
on wed 23 aug 2006 025900 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote thanks... which one the comcast site yup were going to test drive the blazer on a run up to topaz lake this weekend... if it can handle the 26 percent grades on sonora pass it should be good to go for baja... its one of our favorite rides and nan wants to do 1 more run before we move.. ill try to get the pictures up soon of the ceramic tile work and stuff from our trip in july.. mac hey that topaz area looks pretty nice. maybe well put it on next years list. what do you do up there besides fish gamble and you-know.... ya might want to explain what you-know is to the old guy. roy fmb .
From : max dodge
on wed 23 aug 2006 025900 gmt fmb fmbb@sbcglobal.net wrote thanks... which one the comcast site yup were going to test drive the blazer on a run up to topaz lake this weekend... if it can handle the 26 percent grades on sonora pass it should be good to go for baja... its one of our favorite rides and nan wants to do 1 more run before we move.. ill try to get the pictures up soon of the ceramic tile work and stuff from our trip in july.. mac hey that topaz area looks pretty nice. maybe well put it on next years list. what do you do up there besides fish gamble and you-know.... fmb .
From : chris thompson
chris thompson wrote gill bentry gillbentry@hotmail.com wrote did some googling. i think the motori motor would give me what i want. id simply go out and buy a liberty but an suv particularly a small one wont cut it for me. now if they made a liberty *pickup* that would be another matter. motori is a division of detroit diesel. anyway thanks for the link! where did you see that they are part of detriot diesel ive looked on thier site and see no such mention. although gm daewoo appears to have leased use of 2 engine designs from them. saw it on one of the jeep liberty pages i googled up. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .
From : mcraigchr gmail com
.. tom lawrence wrote sulphur does not act as a lubricant. however the process thats used to eliminate the sulphur also decreases the fuels lubricity. end result is the same but its how you get there that matters ah ... well i did mention that i was fuel ignorant. engine manufacturers have known about these coming changes for a while now and the injection pumps injectors etc. that rely on fuel for their lubrication are designed to work with the ulsd fuels. it shouldnt be a problem. after i posted i continued to search for articles on the matter and there is some agreement among many mechanics that the increased lubricity in bio-diesel if one were to run b20 20% bio and 80% ulsc makes up for the difference. yet cummins wont commit to anything greater than b5 on engines older than 2006. it will be intersting to watch it all unfold i suppose. meanwhile willie nelson put in couple of biowillie yes ... it is really called biowillie pumps b20 & b100 about 10 minutes from my house. im gonna give it shot. craig c. i run b20 when i can. and have no complaints. i have noticed a reduction in smoke no real notible drop in mpg or power. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs .
From : roy
on thu 24 aug 2006 110807 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote hey that topaz area looks pretty nice. maybe well put it on next years list. what do you do up there besides fish gamble and you-know.... ya might want to explain what you-know is to the old guy. roy dunno what that might mean to you and bob other than drinking beer and farting but were still newlyweds and might not have time to gamble... *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .
From : roy
has anyone noticed a flucuation in fuel mileage when they use diesel fron different companies here in central texas there are only a couple on kinds of diesel available. we have diamond shamrock valero and we have shell texaco. i normally fill up at the shamrock and run between 18-22 mpg in my 2000 ctd 4x4. the other night the shamrock was out of diesel so i had to go to the shell across the street and fill up. for some reason ive noticed that my temperature gauge is running about 200 instead of 190. ive also experienced a decline in fuel mileage. ive went down to 14-16 mpg. i know the obvious answer would be -- dont go back to shell. i was just wondering if there was different additives they use or different refining techniques. does the added temperature help the decline in fuel mileage why would one be better than the other i love my ctd but these things are hard to figure out !! .
From : chris thompson
bad turn signal switch in the steering column. i have a 2000 dodge caravan and the brake lights stopped working. the back up parking and turn signals still work. i replaced the bulbs and the fuses are good. i tested the brake pedal switch with a multi-meter and have approx 14. 5v going into the switch and 14.5v going out when the pedal is pushed. there is 14.5v in the plug to the tail/parking lights but no change in the voltage when the pedal is pushed. any thoughts .
From : roy
trent wrote then what did the dealership replace when they replaces my knock sensor in my 2000 ctd dodge back in april maybe it was the ckp sensor if you saved the reciept and you were actually billed for a knock sensor id contact the local authorities. you got robbed. -- ken .
From : snoman
chris thompson wrote forgive me ken. i was reverting back to the old days and not thinking about the new engines with that statement. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd i wanted to point it out before someone bashed you for it. ya gotta be careful how you say things around here. ;^ -- ken .
From : azwiley1
on tue 22 aug 2006 133036 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote please explain to me how a v10 retards its timing when using 87 octane fuel. if i have to explain it to you then you are really lost. ----------------- thesnoman.com no i want hear this one too. you realize it doesnt have a knock sensor right none of the dodge truck engines have a knock sensor then what did the dealership replace when they replaces my knock sensor in my 2000 ctd dodge back in april -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
From : snoman
thanks for all the help.suggestions/flames... we bought a 95 blazer yesterday and it looks like it will be just what we need.. anybody wanna buy a nice 2001 dakota in california mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm yada yada yada all talk. you have had that blazer for how long now two whole days and still dont have it on your web pages come to think of it and due diligent searches you havent put up any updated photos of the southern home. whats up btw i like what you did to your home page. oh and im looking for a place to put the fox for a week on the mokelumne river somewhere. know of any nice places o .
From : tom lawrence
tom lawrence wrote thats cuz illudium q-36 explosive space modulators are made from unobtanium. ;- ya mean the 37-syllable compound that uses carbon crystals suspended in a tungsten matrix 5 bonus points for citing the movie reference yeah - ive been meaning to pick some of that stuff up. the core. -- ..bob arrived 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .