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From : stephen harding

Q: but the battery is an automotive battery. many people use two 6v golf cart batteries in the trailer as they say that the batteries last longer. i dont have enough room in the battery compartment to do that. thats all well and fine on a camping trailer but doesnt apply to enclosed or open car trailers i guess none of you guys ever had a battery in your vehicle go bad either politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

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From : tbone

no i think it something to do with cats. on wed 11 feb 2004 124852 gmt john a. stephens winterbourn@direcway.com wrote redneck tookover hell wrote this is a follow-up to the thread cummins vs hemi which as threads usually do...went way off on a tangent. at least you learned how to spell cummins this time. thats your positive stroke politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. spelling is the use of rote memory which takes little or no intelligence. intelligence is the ability to solve complex problems. if we were to use intelligence to spell we would spell words phonetically. so why make spelling an issue not sure was it mark twain that said something like a smart man knows more than one way to spell a word mac .

From : tbone

its called a fipk fuel injection performance kit and no it does not improve performance. at least with my truck i did not notice any improvement in performance or fuel economy. its just louder. i am thinking about putting the oem air box back in to see if performance goes down at all. hey thanks to everyone for the input. glad to hear im not the only one with a gas guzzler. this truck has a k&n air filter on it too. i was reading on the box it came in some of its benefits. one of them is increases gas mileage. i was like gee..... what was it before this filter was on 5mpg im certain this filter didnt do much for the gas mileage. i was thinking of putting on one of those after market air filter systems that has a tube leading to the front of the engine compartment with the filter on the end of that tube. not sure what its called but i think k&n makes it. possibly a cold air intake system. plus i was thinking of putting in a after market power module. heard they not only increase hp but also mileage. any opinions on that thanks again!! joel wrote greetings recently i purchased a 2001 dodge ram 1500 quad cab/ off road package with an automatic transmission with a 5.9 liter magnum gas engine. i love it except for the dismal gas mileage. on the open road holding steady at 75mph its getting 10 mpg. thats the best it does! its got one of those headliner mounted information centers that can display the current mpg. i turned the dang thing off because i dont want to see sometimes single digits for my current mpg cruising down the open road!! dodge engine normally get prety lousy mileage but 10 is a little low. start by checking to make sure the overhead console is correct. then do the normal tune up things. then start looking for bad parts like o2 sensors. plus with the cruise set and driving over some hilly terrain the transmission shifts up and down more than expected. thats pretty normal too. its an attempt to stay in od as long as possible to conserve fuel. and the cruise control is a little sensative it tries to maintan speed with rapid throttle movements. when it gets hilly either take it out of od or turn off the cruise control. oh and when i put it in four wheel drive the front steering seems like it really binds a lot. if its on dry pavement that is also normal. all 4x4s do that. thats why they tell you never to use it on dry pavement. -- .bob 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged!! 01 dakota quad sport 5.9/auto/4x4 83 gmc jimmy beater 66 427sc cobra replica - project 66 mustang coupe - daily driver -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

From : roy

speedo drive gear is wrong i had the overdrive section of my auto transmission in this truck turn into a nice soupy mixture of metal shavings awhile back. since the truck had about 130k on it and the engine was getting tired i ordered up a rebuilt v6 and tranny from aftermarket sources. the tranny i received was date stamped as an 89 model but except for different sized fittings for the cooling lines everything appeared to fit the same and it went back together just fine and is running. ive rebuilt many engines but ive never really gotten into auto transmissions before but here are the symptoms of a problem that has come up. the truck holds a lower gear for way too long. when in drive the rpms go to near red-line without shifting. to force a shift it is necessary to get the speed up then let off the gas pedal a bit. at highway speeds it runs just fine so this issue only appears at low speeds. the second part of this problem is that the speedo now reads low. before the transmission change my gps showed a perfect match to the speedometer now it is reading about 5mph slow at highway speeds. if it were a standard tranny i would say that it is geared taller than the stock one was. any tranny guys out there who can provide some pointers on where to start with correcting this problem im hoping it is some simple tuning stuff so that i dont have to take her to a tranny shop to do it. hate to pay other people money to take care of mechanical stuff ya know. it was quite a bear to get that tranny in there in the first place... tia scott .

From : joe

actually i drive mostly fords rangers with 2.9s and a4lds oh yeah you guys are funny. cant help the fact that i was smart enough to get a real truck and you are still stuck with dodge. 1 jack up radiator cap 2 drive a dodge under it 3 lower cap ok gang i am asking you all this because i know i will get some answers along with the shit so... here in the next few months i will be hopefully spending a little money on the truck and would like some thoughts. i am going to add steps of some type and either a grill guard or brush bar of some type. the one thing i am not sure on is color black or polished stainless not chrome. thoughts! .

From : redneck tookover hell

no way denny not you. my pink lil friend you. vbg im really hurt that you think that we would give a chevy driver a little shit!!!!!! bg anyways i like a good set of cab length running boards you can step on them as needed and they keep most of the crap from the tires off the bottom of the doors. get the stainless brush guard it doesnt show the dirt like black or chrome does. denny ok gang i am asking you all this because i know i will get some answers along with the shit so... here in the next few months i will be hopefully spending a little money on the truck and would like some thoughts. i am going to add steps of some type and either a grill guard or brush bar of some type. the one thing i am not sure on is color black or polished stainless not chrome. thoughts! .

From : redneck tookover hell

i have an 03 hemi 1500 quadcab 4x2 3.92 with about 10000 miles on it i get about 11mpg city and 14mpg hwy. a welcome improvement over my 96 5.9l 1500 clubcab 4x4 3.73 which got 10mpg all around. this is a follow-up to the thread cummins vs hemi which as threads usually do...went way off on a tangent. can anyone give me what they are getting in mpg with these 2 trucks. also anyone hauling around a 8000 lb fifth wheel with the 2500 i am presently driving a 99 ram 1500 5.2 litre and got around 9-10 mpg hauling the trailer. can i expect any better with the 2500 5.7 hemi am getting around 16-17 everyday driving...will this be a lot worse with the bigger truck cheers peter .

From : joe

speeds. the second part of this problem is that the speedo now reads low. before the transmission change my gps showed a perfect match to the speedometer now it is reading about 5mph slow at highway speeds. if it were a standard tranny i would say that it is geared taller than the stock one was. any tranny guys out there who can provide some pointers on where to start with correcting this problem im hoping it is some simple tuning stuff so that i dont have to take her to a tranny shop to do it. hate to pay other people money to take care of mechanical stuff ya know. it was quite a bear to get that tranny in there in the first place... tia scott . 222 277678 %bcwb.879$ww3.46@read2..pas.earthlink.net you had to say stang huh now i am going to cry. i am still kicking myself in the ass for selling my 87 gt t-top 7 years ago. i want my car back! hell i got one of each 88 mustang gt convertable 2001 tahoe 2003 ram 2500 4x4 they all have their niche. the stang on warm not hot summer days the tahoe for lugging the family and the ram for work. all work great for their intended purposes --mike oh yeah you guys are funny. cant help the fact that i was smart enough to get a real truck and you are still stuck with dodge. 1 jack up radiator cap 2 drive a dodge under it 3 lower cap ok gang i am asking you all this because i know i will get some answers along with the shit so... here in the next few months i will be hopefully spending a little money on the truck and would like some thoughts. i am going to add steps of some type and either a grill guard or brush bar of some type. the one thing i am not sure on is color black or polished stainless not chrome. thoughts! .

From : roy

yeah what ever max. i see you still havent changed or grown up. btw mr. i know it all where did i ever say i had a diesel i didnt you are assuming things. fyi i have the gen iii 5.3l 323cu in v-8 and once again since you cant read beyond what you want to i had more problems on my dodge then i have had on the chevy. thanks for your ever so useless insight now piss off. cant help the fact that i was smart enough to get a real truck and you are still stuck with dodge. a real truck that has ifs an aluminum headed diesel a transmission heritage filled with failure and generally car like demeanor ok whatever...... max anvils dont kill cartoon characters cartoon characters kill cartoon characters. .

From : roy

my durango seems to only have one drive wheel! after driving through a muddy area i noticed that only one side of the vehicle had mud spun on it. ive tried to get both wheels to spin but can only determine that one wheel propels the vehicle. isnt a limited slip required to be called 4x2 thats how this vehicle is presented on the window sticker. how can i tell if i have a limited slip axle can i make chrysler put one in since this is supposed to be a 4x2 where did you come up with this 4x1 and 4x2 thing a 4x2 simply means 2 wheel drive one axle regardless of the rear diff type so either way you have a 4x2. open rears tend to favor one axle but i forgot which one. there are many ways to determine what type of rear it has. the easiest way is to read the sticker that is under the hood if it is still readable. another way would be to jack up one rear wheel and with the truck in neutral and the emergency brake off try and turn the wheel. if you can turn it you have an open rear. another way is to jack up both wheels and with it in neutral turn one of the wheels. if they both turn together same direction you have a limited slip. if they turn in opposit directions you have an open rear. limited slip diffs have bo

From : roy

thats probably pretty funny in puyallup. did it work for you mister daguy you ever wonder why you are so much bigger than all the other 4th graders in your class no but i did wonder why you spent 7 years in the 2nd grade mister daguy politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : stephen harding

he answered with a red spot light followed by red & blue lights in my mirror.... it was a highway patrol car and he wrote me up for using road/fog lights with oncoming traffic... said that if they hadnt of been factory installed he write up the alignment too.. wow - what state was that in .

From : tbone

i am going to add steps of some type and either a grill guard or brush bar of some type. the one thing i am not sure on is color black or polished stainless not chrome. ive heard once you go black youll never go back. not sure if they were talking about trucks dont know what the coating on them is powdercoating had thought about putting on a brush guard until it was pointed out to me that with todays flimsy front bumpers it doesnt take much of a bump to roll the thing into the grill and hood. something to think about. buy one that bolts to the frame not the bumper politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

anyone hear or experience any problems with the new durango 4x4 ltd with hemi vehicle i am looking at it and the chevy tahoe z71 thank you .

From : redneck tookover hell

the drive gear wasnt changed but if the interface in the new tranny was different than the old one obviously that would make for the difference on the speedometer. so this must mean that the tranny senses speed off the speedo output as part of determining shift points anyhow i suppose that is a starting point. thanks scott transsurgeon wrote speedo drive gear is wrong i had the overdrive section of my auto transmission in this truck turn into a nice soupy mixture of metal shavings awhile back. since the truck had about 130k on it and the engine was getting tired i ordered up a rebuilt v6 and tranny from aftermarket sources. the tranny i received was date stamped as an 89 model but except for different sized fittings for the cooling lines everything appeared to fit the same and it went back together just fine and is running. ive rebuilt many engines but ive never really gotten into auto transmissions before but here are the symptoms of a problem that has come up. the truck holds a lower gear for way too long. when in drive the rpms go to near red-line without shifting. to force a shift it is necessary to get the speed up then let off the gas pedal a bit. at highway speeds it runs just fine so this issue only appears at low speeds. the second part of this problem is that the speedo now reads low. before the transmission change my gps showed a perfect match to the speedometer now it is reading about 5mph slow at highway speeds. if it were a standard tranny i would say that it is geared taller than the stock one was. any tranny guys out there who can provide some pointers on where to start with correcting this problem im hoping it is some simple tuning stuff so that i dont have to take her to a tranny shop to do it. hate to pay other people money to take care of mechanical stuff ya know. it was quite a bear to get that tranny in there in the first place... tia scott .

From : joe

while that is true if both have equal traction an open rear seems to favor one of the axles and there is a reason for it but it has been so long that i have completely forgotten what it is. youre probably thinking about the torque of the driveshaft twisting or trying to twist the rear axle. the axle wants to rotate around the differential counter-clockwise when viewed from the back which will give the drivers side tire a little more traction so the passenger side should break loose. theoretically of course .

From : tbone

i have been search in vain for a 1999 dodge ram wiring diagram. free on the net of course. the problem i am having started with the power outlet in the dash. it stopped working. i thought it may be a fuse. nope. it is tied in with the cigarette lighter at the fuse center. next. right front speaker starts cuting out..then fails altogther..at first i thought loose wiring since some work was done in that area a while back. then the left front speak goes out. after that i start getting crappy radio reception. ah! it must be radio. i changed the radio..receiption has improved but front speakers are still out. i pulled the panel on the driver door and checked for voltage coming out that wireac meter of course dead. now i am thinking there must be a another point where those items connect and may have come loose. do the speaker wires go directly to the radio thanks for any help .

From : tbone

seen a new bumper sticker kerry and fonda in 2004 now theres a winning ticket if i ever saw one!!!!!!!!!!! politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. she was spouting her crap this morning on the how she didnt even shake his hand and we shouldnt stick any of her stink on him. well if it smells like crap..... they do have a future together in a komunistic way... -- fmb only one b in fmb .

From : roy

blow me. hi ive just bought a 04 ram 1500 quad cab and am very happy with it. i have an 8 year old daughter who goes everywhere with me and i need to disconnect the passenger side air bag to make it legal and safe for her to ride in the front with me. the quad cabs dont have the key switch in the dash supposed to stick the kids in the back seat. i think i found the plug above the glove box yellow with an orange plastic tab but am unsure about messing around with it and getting the bag to function with my noggin right in front of it. is this the right plug how do the air bags actuate thanks merlin. merlin if you are so concerned for her safety as you appear to be then put her in the back seat where she will be safer. quit trying to beat the safety system in the truck. if something happens i hope nothing does and she gets hurt in the front seat you will alway wonder if it was partially or fully your fault for not having her in the back where she belongs. -- fmb only one b in fmb .

From : redneck tookover hell

redneck tookover hell wrote buy one that bolts to the frame not the bumper most all of them bolt to the frame if not all of them. however a lot of them will also bolt to the bumper for additional support. on the 89 dodge i had this was good as the bumper was just as about as strong as the frame and with it bolted at four locations pushing other vehicles or striking small trees was no problem. todays bumpers will flex with no support. either way with todays trucks you will roll the brush guard inward. jerry .

From : roy

i know many people who have traded in their lsd or posi traction vehicles for open differential vehicles because the lsd was too hard to control in the snow. you do they had to be some real winners these people know how to drive and they drive well they were tired of fighting their lsd vehicle you got to be kidding. they must be the ones i see on their roofs on a straight section of road dry with the sun shining. no other vehicles around politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

laugh all you want dude but others have already posted in this thread that they and people tha they know have gotten rid of them and avoided them because of their tendency to fish tail on wet roads in corners. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving they are optional because they have bad points as well as good ones and the reason that they are not on the lots is because people tend to be afraid of them. rotflmfao denny .

From : joe

trey treydog90spam@hotmail.com wrote in ahhh that is why no one replied! you are right though. diesels dont use much gas at all! thanks for the info. the gas mileage in these trucks is great! you can go thousands of miles and never use a gallon of gas. sorry i couldnt resist. your fuel mileage should be very good compared to a gas engine. you can expect 16-18 city and 20-24 depending on a lot of factors highway. chris i am looking to buy a 1991 dodge 2wd diesel. what kind of gas mileage can i expect auto trans/manual trans it will not be pulling a trailer just work supplies welder etc i get good mileage 02 quad 4x4 6sp about 23mpg at 450 hp and 810ftlbs of torque .

From : tbone

please visit http//www.nykeglawsucks.com thanks walt .

From : joe

just received my 2003 ram service manual on cd in the mail today. its in adobe acrobat format and pages can be printed if necessary. looks like it has 2895 pages on it. best $10.00 ive ever spent! bill .

From : mike simmons

if you are sure that it is not getting fuel into the fuel rail when it acts up what the hell does a magnetic pickup in the distributor have to do with that that pickup as you call it is the camshaft position sensor and controls the fuel injection synchronization. this could be the problem with the ops engine and possibly yours but it has no control over the fuel pump itself other to indicate to the pcm to shut it down. if you are sure that you are not getting fuel into the rail and you can hear the pump running then your problem is in the pump itself no if and or butts about it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving dont feel badi have a 96 doing exactly the same thing. i did notice that i could let it sit and idle all day but once i drove it a certain distance it would mess up just as you describe. yours may not be flooding as mine doesnt get any fuel into the fuel rail when it acts up but the pump can still be heard running when it does this so i bet thats what yours is doing too. i put a new coil on after i was told that was the problem but it wasnt. the voltage to the fuel pump seems good too so im not going to put a $200+ pump in it until absolutely positive. my next try is going to be the magnetic pickup under the distributor for shits & giggles as i have a new one available so well see. im just not in the mood to play with that damn cap/rotor again tough to get at...but i will. hello...i have a 1995 dodge 4x4. recently after a trip down the freeway i turned off and started up a mountain highway and suddenly my truck seemed to lose all power. i pulled off the road and it sat and idled but it was running very badly. if i tried to give it gas it would act as though it was flooding...it would begin to rev up but after it got to a certain point it would run very bad. i called a tow truck and while waiting i started it back up and it seemed to be running normal. i drove back off the mountain and met the tow truck at the freeway. he followed me back home almost 20 miles at which point it did the same again. we put it on his tow truck and he carried me the rest of the way to his shop. when we started the truck to remove it from the tow truck it ran beautifully and hasnt had another episode since...but ive not driven it any farther than about 5 miles from my house. ive searched the google groups for like problems and possible answers...until i came across this group. im hoping someone here can assist me with the problem. i did take the truck to a local repair shop where they let it run almost all day in order to get hot and happen again but it didnt happen and he has no idea what it might be... probably wasnt good for it to sit and run all day im not sure. anyway any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks for any assistance! bill .

From : bryan swadener

on 31 jan 2004 210829 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote i know a few of the answers red... but if i told ya id have to kill ya... dont laugh too hard. i think ole red has experienced most of these up in nd. bg denny as well as anyone who has lived in the clovis ca area also!!!!!!!!! g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. mac .

From : roy

on sat 31 jan 2004 185708 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote i was in a class in auburn hills a couple of weeks ago and got to talk about this fwd vs rwd on this chassis. the instructors seem to think that with the traction control and abs plus there shouldnt be much of a problem. as you go into a curve the abs will selectively apply individual brakes as needed to control over/understeer. time will tell if it works according to plan. denny damn i hope that the computer software controlling that isnt from micro$oft!!! not the kinda crash id want.. mac .

From : redneck tookover hell

on sat 31 jan 2004 192320 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote im going to acquire a laptop shut up roy in the near future to keep at my box to read the service cds. i was looking at some of the factory reconditioned ones at www.overstock.com. am i doing something really stupid by getting one from there the prices seem good and most have a two year warranty. pro/cons anybody. thanks and to the group smart-asses they do not give discounts to people wearing bunny suits. denny my only experience with overstock.com was buying clothes a few times... name brands good prices fast delivery... what kind of system are you looking at mac .

From : denny

i just did a pressure test and everything was great. no pressure loss at all. i looked at the pcv hose and it was collapsed and had a slice in it at the crimp spot. i am going to get another hose and hope that it helps. i can just do a regular oil change correct thanks all i appreciate the help. ken here is the situation i have a 98 4 cylinder dakota. actually my wife does. well i go to check the oil the other day and find oil on the underside of the hood and all over the passenger side of the engine. i check the oil and find nothing but a chocolate milkshake substance all the way up to the dipstick opening. first thought was blown headgasket but i have no clue how that would happen. the truck has never overheated no detrimental running issues no smoking the coolant is perfect. someone told me to watch out for a cracked head but they dont just crack for no reason. any clues. i dont have the time to tear this motor apart 2 car-2 job family. any one hear of this happening or care to shed some light here thanks ken .

From : tbone

me too! i think i might be a lesbian... you got big hands and fingers g how did he seem to handle your machine now with this information youll have to get him his own kind of machine. g denny .

From : badluckdragon

cummis owns their own filter company and supplies dodge with replacement filters. by the way the magneson-moss warranty act prohibits any vehicle manufacturer from voiding a warranty for the use of an aftermarket filter. unless they are willing to provide the replacement filters for free to the vehicle owners. dodge and cummins has lost this battle several times. thank you sema. nosey wrote why is it the dodge will void the warranty for use of after market filters k&n they dont. they cant. for a while dodge was not authorizing the use of k&n filters in the ram diesel only. that is a big difference they still dont on the diesel. from http//www.cummins.com does daimlerchrysler authorize the use of high-flow aftermarket air filters such as k&n with my cummins engine no. daimlerchrysler and cummins do not recommend the use of increased flow air filters such as k&n because they can allow contaminants into the intake that can ruin an engine scoring the sides of the pistons etc. .

From : roy

on sun 01 feb 2004 161725 gmt mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote on sat 31 jan 2004 185708 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote i was in a class in auburn hills a couple of weeks ago and got to talk about this fwd vs rwd on this chassis. the instructors seem to think that with the traction control and abs plus there shouldnt be much of a problem. as you go into a curve the abs will selectively apply individual brakes as needed to control over/understeer. time will tell if it works according to plan. denny damn i hope that the computer software controlling that isnt from micro$oft!!! not the kinda crash id want.. or nasa .

From : yonzie

if driving a fwd car youd think you can use the parking brake to straighten out of a slide but all the ones ive seen have the parking brake on the front wheels - making that useless. bryan really which ones my wifes old honda and her current intrepid both have the parking brake in the rear. ok i havent looked at all that many fwd cars brake systems though of the ones ive seen had the parking brakes on the front axle. b like i asked before which ones -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : stephen harding

naw you dont have to that. its the steering coupler at the gear box. they go bad all the time. in all hte years of driving rwd with steering boxes ive never had a coupler at the steering box end of the shaft go bad. thats not to say it cannot but its not as likely as a loose steering box after years of use. further if you do not check to see that your steering box doesnt have too much play its foolish. go to your local dodge dealer and tell them you need a reapair kit for the steering coupler. bullshit. for the amount of cash you lay out for that stuff you can get a borgeson unit thta may be more $$ but will never fail in the lifetime of the truck. i will say it aint easy but worth it. installing the borgeson unit is about the easiest upgrade ive done to any vehicle and made one hell of a difference. in my case it was the very poorly manufactured upper coupling on the stock shaft that caused the play. max anvils dont kill cartoon characters cartoon characters kill cartoon characters. .

From : stephen harding

tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in bryan swadener wrote also both are ...the american people are now conditioned to front-wheel drive and its superior handling in snow and ice... fwd gained popularity with automobile manufacturers due to ease of cheaper design and manufacturing; madison avenue sold it to america. it isnt better -- its just a *different* can of worms. just my observation and experience. a fwd vehicle certainly isnt easier to design or cheaper to build is it stuffing transmission and engine together then somehow bending drivetrain to the front wheels as well as addition of cv joints doesnt seem cheaper to me. i think he meant that it was easier to meet design criteria that stipulated in the late 70s that newer cars would have similar interior dimensions w/ much smaller exterior dimensions. with fwd packaging this was accomplished by removing the transmission hump and differential which was exemplified in the hatchbacks that were common then. the cars were also much lighter w/ smaller driveshafts and smaller differential. and fwd vehicles *do* have better winter traction. at least better than what the vehicle would have if the drive wheels were astern. whether that traction is good enough or not is another issue. i used to have a rwd car w/ posi and studded snow tires not all-season. id put that car up against any common fwd car in snowy/icy conditions. ;- and if the driver of the fwd car had any skill at all you would lose. nonsense. when fwd slips you lose both traction and steering. not so with rwd. with two equal drivers the rwd car with a bit of extra weight in the rear will be better in snow. bullshit. when a fwd slips a light touch of the gass usually gets it right back. when a rwd loses traction in the front your sol and better pray that nothing else is around. when they lose traction in the rear at best nothing happens but usually the front and rear of the car exchange positions and again you better pray that nothing else is around. then there is the fun of deep snow where the front wheels plow in and get a rwd hopelessly stuck. while a rwd car can be made better in the snow with the help of studded tires and more weight in the rear a fwd is still better and doesnt require modification or pre-planning. i have owned nothing but rwd cars all of my life but when my furnace failed at the end of a blizzard and i needed to get parts for it my wifes little fwd honda civic got me there where my rwd trans-am couldnt even get out of my drive way and i knew better than to even try. do ya think that the big tires and more hp might have been the reason the ta couldnt get out of the drive way. oh you said you knew better than to try. glad you know your limitations. bfg roy .

From : mac davis

tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in bryan swadener wrote also both are ...the american people are now conditioned to front-wheel drive and its superior handling in snow and ice... fwd gained popularity with automobile manufacturers due to ease of cheaper design and manufacturing; madison avenue sold it to america. it isnt better -- its just a *different* can of worms. just my observation and experience. a fwd vehicle certainly isnt easier to design or cheaper to build is it stuffing transmission and engine together then somehow bending drivetrain to the front wheels as well as addition of cv joints doesnt seem cheaper to me. i think he meant that it was easier to meet design criteria that stipulated in the late 70s that newer cars would have similar interior dimensions w/ much smaller exterior dimensions. with fwd packaging this was accomplished by removing the transmission hump and differential which was exemplified in the hatchbacks that were common then. the cars were also much lighter w/ smaller driveshafts and smaller differential. and fwd vehicles *do* have better winter traction. at least better than what the vehicle would have if the drive wheels were astern. whether that traction is good enough or not is another issue. i used to have a rwd car w/ posi and studded snow tires not all-season. id put that car up against any common fwd car in snowy/icy conditions. ;- and if the driver of the fwd car had any skill at all you would lose. nonsense. when fwd slips you lose both traction and steering. not so with rwd. with two equal drivers the rwd car with a bit of extra weight in the rear will be better in snow. bullshit. when a fwd slips a light touch of the gass usually gets it right back. when a rwd loses traction in the front your sol and better pray that nothing else is around. when they lose traction in the rear at best nothing happens but usually the front and rear of the car exchange positions and again you better pray that nothing else is around. then there is the fun of deep snow where the front wheels plow in and get a rwd hopelessly stuck. while a rwd car can be made better in the snow with the help of studded tires and more weight in the rear a fwd is still better and doesnt require modification or pre-planning. i have owned nothing but rwd cars all of my life but when my furnace failed at the end of a blizzard and i needed to get parts for it my wifes little fwd honda civic got me there where my rwd trans-am couldnt even get out of my drive way and i knew better than to even try. do ya think that the big tires and more hp might have been the reason the ta couldnt get out of the drive way. oh you said you knew better than to try. glad you know your limitations. bfg lol bite me bg. yes its big tires are part of the problem and it has them on the front as well and they plow right into the snow. i got stuck driving it in the snow a few times and although it got me home it was not fun well actually it was but not exactly safe. i knew that it wouldnt stand a chance on those roads with over a foot of snow in places. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : redneck tookover hell

hi everyone cant decide on which one to get. i will be pulling a 9000lbs camping trailer and not sure what to get. i really think that the diesel is necessary and im ok with that... i dont need 4wd. what should package such as diff ratio and suspension is necc thanks for your help matt .

From : bill hall

on 12 feb 2004 172604 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote the westins are rated to 350lbs. when i stand on mine the truck moves but the bars dont. ummm tom you arent moving into the denny/roy class are you bfg my truck doesnt move when i stand on the running board just in case anyone is wondering!!!!! g it probably would if it wasnt on blocks in your front yard red.. *eg* mac .

From : mrdancer

authorized dodge mechanic told me mercedes deigned the 4.7 litre v8 for 2001. is this true .

From : mac davis

me too! i think i might be a lesbian... you got big hands and fingers g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : bill hall

hello. quick question on a 1989 dodge ram 1/2 ton with a 318 is there a rubber gasket that goes around the thermostat i had one picked up for me and it doesnt come with one. i would like to find out before i rip the truck apart. thanks in advance. unless mopar changed things it would be a paper gasket. in a pinch you can cut one out of a wheaties cereal box -- eat the wheaties first. ^ i like to spread a thin layer of permatex aviation form-a-gasket onto the gasket -- just to be certain it wont seep. -bryan ok i have the paper gasket that goes between the engine and the thermostat cover but is there like a rubber o ring that goes around the thermostat itself to prevent coolant from passing around the actual thermostat itself im unsure of that. any mopar dealer parts dealer would be able to tell you for certain. -bryan .

From : tbone

all the 1971 through 1989 360 engines are pretty much the same other than emissions. around 1989 they started using hydraulic roller cams then they came out with the magnum 360. if you use a magnum 360 the ballance weights on the torque converter are different so you would have to change torque converters. the 727 loadflight is a pretty easy transmission to rebuild. if you have the transmission out most transmission shops will rebuild it carry in for under $400. if you want to rebuild it yourself have the tools and service manual a rebuild kit should be under $100. i think the 360 didnt get roller lifters until 1993. the 318s got them a year or two earlier. al im looking for a less-used replacement for my 85 w350 360 loadflight engine. anyone know if the car version and what years will bolt in my transmission is a little iffy too - are there any that would bolt all the way back to my np-208 transfer case i only use the truck for the five-year snowstorm hauling gravel and going to the dump so remanufactured or rebuilding isnt very attractive... if it will fit i can probably buy a little old lady passensger car of that vintage for $200. .

From : tbone

recently we were watching the tube and my 13 old the one trying to teach the dog to say hemi wanted to know when chevy ads talk about like a rock if they were talking about the ride or the way their resale values fall........... build ford tough -- must be the ride -- dudlee & debbie brennfoerder edgar ne 68935 .

From : bryan swadener

ramman@dodgecity.cc ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote mac.davis@comcast.net writes on sun 01 feb 2004 102654 -0600 ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote damn makes me even happier with the seats we had! on the patio with neighbors beer & chili yeah felt the same way and we live here houston had friends & family over for smoked bbq pork ribs buffalo wings margaritas beer & watched the game in hd on a 55 screen. i wouldnt have fought that madness even if id had tickets. yeah watching high def is just about like being there dale .

From : joe

so you think my fuel pump is the culprit no way to check it but put one in right i just paid it off it was a second hand truck and this started... bill if you are sure that it is not getting fuel into the fuel rail when it acts up what the hell does a magnetic pickup in the distributor have to do with that that pickup as you call it is the camshaft position sensor and controls the fuel injection synchronization. this could be the problem with the ops engine and possibly yours but it has no control over the fuel pump itself other to indicate to the pcm to shut it down. if you are sure that you are not getting fuel into the rail and you can hear the pump running then your problem is in the pump itself no if and or butts about it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving dont feel badi have a 96 doing exactly the same thing. i did notice that i could let it sit and idle all day but once i drove it a certain distance it would mess up just as you describe. yours may not be flooding as mine doesnt get any fuel into the fuel rail when it acts up but the pump can still be heard running when it does this so i bet thats what yours is doing too. i put a new coil on after i was told that was the problem but it wasnt. the voltage to the fuel pump seems good too so im not going to put a $200+ pump in it until absolutely positive. my next try is going to be the magnetic pickup under the distributor for shits & giggles as i have a new one available so well see. im just not in the mood to play with that damn cap/rotor again tough to get at...but i will. hello...i have a 1995 dodge 4x4. recently after a trip down the freeway i turned off and started up a mountain highway and suddenly my truck seemed to lose all power. i pulled off the road and it sat and idled but it was running very badly. if i tried to give it gas it would act as though it was flooding...it would begin to rev up but after it got to a certain point it would run very bad. i called a tow truck and while waiting i started it back up and it seemed to be running normal. i drove back off the mountain and met the tow truck at the freeway. he followed me back home almost 20 miles at which point it did the same again. we put it on his tow truck and he carried me the rest of the way to his shop. when we started the truck to remove it from the tow truck it ran beautifully and hasnt had another episode since...but ive not driven it any farther than about 5 miles from my house. ive searched the google groups for like problems and possible answers...until i came across this group. im hoping someone here can assist me with the problem. i did take the truck to a local repair shop where they let it run almost all day in order to get hot and happen again but it didnt happen and he has no idea what it might be... probably wasnt good for it to sit and run all day im not sure. anyway any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks for any assistance! bill .

From : tbone

on tue 3 feb 2004 183730 -0500 prowler99 camcopa2002@yahoo.com wrote one of you guys with a plow get up here to northern pa and plow me out! damn we already had better than a foot on the ground now another foot and half. sure is pretty but what a mess! randy whats snow is that the white stuff you see on top of mountains sometimes we dont mess with things like that here we just put on a long sleeve shirt to go out to the yard and pick an orange or 2... *g* mac .

From : tbone

hello. quick question on a 1989 dodge ram 1/2 ton with a 318 is there a rubber gasket that goes around the thermostat i had one picked up for me and it doesnt come with one. i would like to find out before i rip the truck apart. thanks in advance. unless mopar changed things it would be a paper gasket. in a pinch you can cut one out of a wheaties cereal box -- eat the wheaties first. ^ i like to spread a thin layer of permatex aviation form-a-gasket onto the gasket -- just to be certain it wont seep. -bryan ok i have the paper gasket that goes between the engine and the thermostat cover but is there like a rubber o ring that goes around the thermostat itself to prevent coolant from passing around the actual thermostat itself .

From : roy

i got a refurbished hp pavilion direct from hpshopping.com. im very pleased with it so far. click on the link below to go direct to the outlet store. http//www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpdirect/shopping/scripts/genericstore/genericlandingview.jspbvsessionid=@@@@0016684492.1075916966@@@@&bvengineid=cceeadckillmkjhcfngcfkmdflldfgf.0&landing=outletstore im going to acquire a laptop shut up roy in the near future to keep at my box to read the service cds. i was looking at some of the factory reconditioned ones at www.overstock.com. am i doing something really stupid by getting one from there the prices seem good and most have a two year warranty. pro/cons anybody. dont know if dell still sells them but ya could check. dell and a bunch of others sell them. it just seems like the reconditioned ones are a good deal but im just a little leery of how good the reconditioning is. if i was buying it local id go ahead and do it but i really hate spending that kind of $$ to somebody that i have no idea who or where it is. i think problems get handled better if youre looking somebody in the eye. denny .

From : redneck tookover hell

is this the same procedure for a 99 1500 i know ive seen it posted here in the past but i lost all my bookmarks and also lost the procedure for overriding the fog lights in a 1998 durango to operate when the high beam headlights are on. can anyone help remove the fog light relay and jumper terminal #30 the common to #87a the normally-closed. .

From : redneck tookover hell

man....talk about a starved packs of wolves !!!! christ im surprised the guy got away with his life. .

From : roy

says... one of you guys with a plow get up here to northern pa and plow me out! damn we already had better than a foot on the ground now another foot and half. sure is pretty but what a mess! randy 17!!! damn sound like you need my truck mounted snow blower. i normally use a meyers blade but w/ that much ill have to put the blower on. -- bruce grant westminster md 95 2500 club 4x4w/dynatrac manual hubs cummins/auto 265/70rx19.5g i bet that blower is fun when you get on a gravel lot!! g denny .

From : stephen harding

i have driven rwd fwd and 4wd in inclement weather conditions. in my opinion i would pick the fwd for running around town in ice or snow. i would like to propose a test for you rwd people. stop your rwd car on an incline beside a fwd car and see who is left spinning. been there done that. those rwd cars sure do get in the way at intersections. - .

From : tbone

could someone please tell me why the check engine light just came on everything seems to be normal and it runs ok it has 78000 miles on a 5.2l. please help. jim .

From : roy

could someone please tell me why the check engine light just came on everything seems to be normal and it runs ok it has 78000 miles on a 5.2l. please help. the 1969 one was a typo sorry. jim .

From : joe

jey1958 wrote could someone please tell me why the check engine light just came on everything seems to be normal and it runs ok it has 78000 miles on a 5.2l. please help. the 1969 one was a typo sorry. jim could be any number of things. with that limited amount of information no clue. -- ..bob 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged!! 01 dakota quad sport 5.9/auto/4x4 83 gmc jimmy beater 66 427sc cobra replica - project 66 mustang coupe - daily driver -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

From : tbone

puss! hey your the one that beat feet out of buffalo! lol. now get yer shovel and get back here. randy 17 thats it puss!!!!!!!!!! says... one of you guys with a plow get up here to northern pa and plow me out! damn we already had better than a foot on the ground now another foot and half. sure is pretty but what a mess! randy 17!!! damn sound like you need my truck mounted snow blower. i normally use a meyers blade but w/ that much ill have to put the blower on. -- bruce grant westminster md 95 2500 club 4x4w/dynatrac manual hubs cummins/auto 265/70rx19.5g .

From : tbone

key test it and respond with the codes.. start with key off... on... off.. on.. off. on check engine light will flash.. count flashes should be in groups of 2 digits.. start with 12 end with 55 do not start.. just on and off 3 times left on.. its not the same as getting the full obd codes but its a starting point.. just guessing from my 97 360.. about the same mileage it was cat converter.. could be 02 sensor.. did you fill the tank with the motor running.. could be gas cap.. that one will clear itself after a number of starts.. if it is the cat.. find a good dealer.. i had to go 100 miles to get mine done under federal warranty which is 80k miles. could someone please tell me why the check engine light just came on everything seems to be normal and it runs ok it has 78000 miles on a 5.2l. please help. the 1969 one was a typo sorry. jim .

From : stephen harding

yea i know people were making it sound like i was trying to get 27828372x overbright blinding lights just because the lights arnt dot approved. i just wanted some blue tinted lights to match my blue truck heh =p. in any event i am now thinking about ordering a true hid conversion kit but i heard those are illegal as well. heh. hsmith2078@aol.com hsmith2078 wrote in man....talk about a starved packs of wolves !!!! christ im surprised the guy got away with his life. .

From : roy

stephen harding harding@cs.umass.edu wrote in from experience i disagree that fwd is better. ive driven both for years and i prefer rwd. i have to agree. with rwd if ya know what you are doing you can move the rear of the car with just a tap of the gas. you can avoid a accident or at least lessen it. with fwd you are screwed. i dont deny that fwd is decent in the snow. my wife drives a eldo but it is a damn heavy fwd. also it has blizzaks on it which improved it by about 75% over the factory tires. but get into a slide and you are pretty much along for the ride not so with rwd. but now you are assuming that everyone has the skills to put a car into a controlled skid under a panic situation and that is a complete load of bull. most people in that situation just hammer the brake and in that case front or rear wheel drive makes no difference. yes a skilled driver can make a rwd move in the snow but an inexperienced driver can easily do it with a fwd. as for the tire sizes and the t/a my wifes intrepid rt has the same size tires as my 80 t/a and it has no problems in the snow with them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : joe

i am going to change the exhuast on my 98 ram 1500 4x2 5.9l quad short box. i was wondering what experience other have and poower gain claims and milage change if any. i think headers and dual exhuast will be the plan. any suggestions as to brand preferences and experience. .

From : neil nelson

could someone please tell me why the check engine light just came on everything seems to be normal and it runs ok it has 78000 miles on a 5.2l. please help. the 1969 one was a typo sorry. jim oxygen sensor... .

From : tbone

stephen harding harding@cs.umass.edu wrote in from experience i disagree that fwd is better. ive driven both for years and i prefer rwd. i have to agree. with rwd if ya know what you are doing you can move the rear of the car with just a tap of the gas. you can avoid a accident or at least lessen it. with fwd you are screwed. i dont deny that fwd is decent in the snow. my wife drives a eldo but it is a damn heavy fwd. also it has blizzaks on it which improved it by about 75% over the factory tires. but get into a slide and you are pretty much along for the ride not so with rwd. but now you are assuming that everyone has the skills to put a car into a controlled skid under a panic situation and that is a complete load of bull. most people in that situation just hammer the brake and in that case front or rear wheel drive makes no difference. yes a skilled driver can make a rwd move in the snow but an inexperienced driver can easily do it with a fwd. as for the tire sizes and the t/a my wifes intrepid rt has the same size tires as my 80 t/a and it has no problems in the snow with them. so we agree it all comes down to the driver. roy -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : joe

if so please let me know what type. thanks .

From : mrdancer

hey guy my 4by is not staying engage when ender load. it is a 1989 ram150 any idea help would be appreciated. thank you mike .

From : bryan swadener

tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in tbone fatchance@noway.now wrote in dude based on what youve said you dont have a clue what youre talking about and/or you dont have a clue how to drive in snow. lol and how long have you been driving two or three years chances are a lot more than you. with your severe lack of knowledge in fwd handling and operations i doubt that. feel free to believe what you want. those of us that understand simple physics and how it relates to cars know the truth. my point exactly. you just dont get it and probably never will. lol let me ask you something. is that dakota a 4wd and if so what do you do if the front starts plowing sliding on a curve in the snow guess you dont know what a dakota r/t is... didnt see the r/t my bad. my dak has never seen snow and it never will if i can help it. before moving to south florida 15 years ago i was driving in the hills of northern nj for about another 15 years prior. had a 4x4 bronco ii for a while up there. underpowered piece of shit but at least it handled the lousy roads and weather ok. i guess that it would with its 4wd. btw the best way to recover from a slide is to keep your feet off the pedals until you regain control. that goes for any vehicle rwd fwd 4wd or awd. once again that is completely incorrect and shows your rwd only thinking since this is only valid with a rwd. bzzzt! wrong. next contestant you need to think about why the front wheels are slipping. i know why the front wheels are slipping. in a fwd/4wd theyre slipping because theyre spinning faster then they would be if they were on solid dry pavement. usually it is because the front wheels are not turning at road speed anymore which makes them lose traction and makes it difficult for them to get it back. right! but its not because theyre going slower its because theyre going faster. with a rwd the only way to fix that is to slow down or wait and hope that they will get enough grip to spin back up. iow keep your feet off the pedals. with a fwd awd or 4wd a light tap of the gas will spin the front wheels back up to speed and cause them to dig in and regain traction. assuming theyre going slower than they should this makes sense. but how often do the wheels slow down when youre driving along not much - only when youre braking. most of the time theyll spin due to excessive acceleration given the slippery surface. i know this from experience and if you had a bronco and actually knew how to drive it you would know this as well. dude what color is the sky in your world we can argue about this forever and get nowhere so i will end my participation in it now. i have moving to do. hope you dont have to drive through snow. ; joe black 93 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies .

From : joe

jey1958 writes could someone please tell me why the check engine light just came on everything seems to be normal and it runs ok it has 78000 miles on a 5.2l. please help. the 1969 one was a typo sorry. jim doubt this is the problem but your 96 at 78k miles is just about to exceed the federal mandated emissions warranty. check that catalytic convertor right now!! these are warrantied 8yrs/80k miles and virtually every one of them fail before that time. .

From : joe

the machnic and front seal is about $10.00 .

From : tbone

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From : tbone

authorized dodge mechanic told me mercedes deigned the 4.7 litre v8 for 2001. is this true no! chryco service manager member sae .

From : bryan swadener

i carry a lance 1121 on my 2000 dodge 3500 4x4 6spd man i dont know who is better but i had cummins install thier brakebest warrentyi replaced the wimpy oem shocks with edlebrock ias monos and had the lance dealer install the airlift airbags. 70000 miles of long hard travel and no problems handling is great. joe on mon 2 feb 2004 152907 -0800 dan roman drnlv@cox.net wrote hi i have a 1999 3/4 long bed 24 value 5 speed dodge and i am carrying large camper . i do most of my camping on off roads rough country. which exhaust brake system would you folks recommend what hd shocks and what air bag system any help you can give is very appreciated .

From : greg surratt

.... bullshit. when either car loses traction on the front wheels youve lost all control. the difference really is that in a rwd car you get off of the gas and hope that engine braking straightens it back out. if not you are sol. with a fwd you can give it a little more gas and if that doesnt work you can still try the rwd method with the emergency brake or a combination of both. gee it looks like the fwd has twice the ability to recover from a skid. for years weve all gotten the hard sell on how great fwd is in bad weather. bullshit. just because you choose not to believe it doesnt make it false. dude based on what youve said you dont have a clue what youre talking about and/or you dont have a clue how to drive in snow. years ago in the 70s i had an opal 1900. cant remember the year want to say about a 69 that i drove up to sun valley one winter. it was a rear wheel drive and the snow didnt slow it down one bit. in the morning it was the only 2 wheel drive car that made it out of the motel parking lot without having to be dug out. no chains btw at the same time i owned a 68 firebird convertible with wide tires that wouldnt even move in an inch of snow. i would have to say there are many factors that determine whether a car is a good snow vehicle or not. front or rear wheel drive is not the determining factor by any means. bill lol! and how many front wheel drive cars were in the lot at the time in the 70s i would say about none. if rear wheel drive vehicles are so capable in the snow why was yours the only one to get out all things being equal a front wheel drive vehicle will have superior performance in the snow period. i have also owned a 78 honda civic that wasnt worth a damn in the snow. too light i would have to say. bill .

From : greg surratt

well the door panel is not that difficult to take off. there is a total of 5 screws. one up by the controller for the side mirror one at the arm rest 2 at the bottom and the final one behind the door latch. pull the door latch open and you will find it behind the latch. once that is done gently lift the panel up. and then you will need to unplug things like the power side mirror speaker and the metal rod connecting the door latch to the locking mechanism. i dont know how easy or difficult it is to replace the motor but my initial looks it doesnt look too difficult. it looks like only 3 bolts hold it in place. take those off and it should should come out without too much fan-fare. but when the time comes when i want to get it fixed. i will be doing the job. scott saydee47@hotmail.com oerclockd proc wrote in how difficult is it to take off the door panel is the power door lock motor easy to replace or is this something that should be left to a mechanic .

From : tbone

i went through 2 catalytic converters in 30 days and then the o2 sensor went the front one of course that could have been that the sensor actually was going first but my check engine light only came on while towing... mine is a 5.9... m. jey1958 writes could someone please tell me why the check engine light just came on everything seems to be normal and it runs ok it has 78000 miles on a 5.2l. please help. the 1969 one was a typo sorry. jim doubt this is the problem but your 96 at 78k miles is just about to exceed the federal mandated emissions warranty. check that catalytic convertor right now!! these are warrantied 8yrs/80k miles and virtually every one of them fail before that time. .

From : yonzie

http//www.factoryautomanuals.com shows two possible listings for factory service manuals. search for 75 dodge and youll find them. you could also call dyment publications for a new one -- phone = 800-890-4038. iirc the service manual for my 77 d200 cost me $26.95 postpaid... its 2 thick! bryan firerednyc@yahoo.com wrote im looking for a manual for a dodge adventurer. where is a good place to get one thanks in advance. --steve what kind of manual do you want factory service manual chiltons or haynes repair manual owners manual some sort of repair manual. i have a haynes and i have seen chiltons. i am looking for something more specific. .

From : joe

my dad is retired now and wants to spend my inheritance on toys. the deere is made in japan too. a friend of mine that is a farmer and a deere fanatic has told me that jd makes no tractors under 150 hp in the usa. my brothers jd maybe five years old was made in germany. as another poster mentioned you cant beat jd for resale value. any real tractor should last 50 years with proper care. .

From : joe

yeah but its the wrong shade of green............ randy both are good tractors and will give you good service. the deere is a green painted kawasaki as another poster noted. there is a certain prestige in owning a deere but if i had to choose between the two id probably go with the best dealer. you just cant beat somebody willing to help when something is wrong. denny my dad is retired now and wants to spend my inheritance on toys. he told me to shop for a utility tractor with a front loader and a back-hoe in the 18-30 hp range. we are looking at kubota and john deere as there are no other brand dealers within reasonable distance from us. does anyone have any experience with this type of small tractor. is the deere that much better than the kubota to justify the 30% price difference do the kubotas hold up under moderate usage any advice appreciated. randy .

From : joe

not quite ed. the thermistor used in the otis is a negative temperature coefficient thermistor which means as the temp rises the resistance drops and vice-versa. also the temps it would take to get what you suggesting would occur are way above and below human tolerance. i suepct he has an open sensor or an open in the wiring. the sensor is located on the radiator core support and can be tested with a dvom as can the wirng between the sensor and otis. mike dont take it in just yet... the outside temperature gage works by a thermistor variable resistor which changes its resistance as its temperature changes changing the voltage in a circuit which is interpreted as temperature. therefore... oc = open circuit. the thermistor is so cold its not allowing any voltage through. sc looks like 5c on the display = short circuit. the thermistor is so hot its allowing all voltage through. i dont know at which temperatures oc and sc occur. by-the-way...by pressing and holding both the reset and us/m keys for a few seconds though fewer than it takes to initiate compass calibration mode the degrees portion of the display will show your true north compass heading adjusted for your current magnetic north compass offset as described in the manual to within a few degrees when the vehicle is level. says... oc indicates an open circuit either in the wiring or the sensor itself. check the wiring and sensor with an ohmmeter to find the source of the problem. great... looks like ill need to either take it in to chrysler or figure out the temp by opening the window. i have no idea where the circuitry or temp sensor is located. thanks for the advice! -- chris http//www.choxnpinz.com remove caps from e-mail address to reply .

From : bill hall

my dad is retired now and wants to spend my inheritance on toys. he told me to shop for a utility tractor with a front loader and a back-hoe in the 18-30 hp range. we are looking at kubota and john deere as there are no other brand dealers within reasonable distance from us. does anyone have any experience with this type of small tractor. is the deere that much better than the kubota to justify the 30% price difference do the kubotas hold up under moderate usage any advice appreciated. randy .

From : stephen harding

naw you dont have to that. its the steering coupler at the gear box. they go bad all the time. in all hte years of driving rwd with steering boxes ive never had a coupler at the steering box end of the shaft go bad. thats not to say it cannot but its not as likely as a loose steering box after years of use. they go bad contstantly just maybe not in fanatasy land. further if you do not check to see that your steering box doesnt have too much play its foolish. dont fool with the box if you dont know what your doing! go to your local dodge dealer and tell them you need a reapair kit for the steering coupler. bullshit. for the amount of cash you lay out for that stuff you can get a borgeson unit thta may be more $$ but will never fail in the lifetime of the truck. i cal bullshit on yours $9.50 isnt a lot of money! i will say it aint easy but worth it. installing the borgeson unit is about the easiest upgrade ive done to any vehicle and made one hell of a difference. in my case it was the very poorly manufactured upper coupling on the stock shaft that caused the play. i bet you wont do it for free will you max anvils dont kill cartoon characters cartoon characters kill cartoon characters. i used to think some of you idiots now i am convinced. there is a rag joint on a 75 pick up but it is above the coupler. there is a coupler with 2 shoes a spring dowl pin seal and a retainer. its been this way since the 60s now it probably has gone bad but considering its been in there since 75 i would say you got every dime out of it. the part # for the repair kit is 4443436ac and cost a whopping $9.50 spend a ton of money on the aftermarket reapir if you want but in 29 years i doubt the truck will still be used. the rag joint connects the upper column to the lower column not at the steering box. go take a look. there are no u-joints on the oem coupler just on 94 and newer. if you have u-joints then you have the aftermarket repair. if the rag joint went bad and not the coupler i would be shocked! .

From : stephen harding

on thu 5 feb 2004 155037 -0500 prowler99 camcopa2002@yahoo.com wrote my dad is retired now and wants to spend my inheritance on toys. he told me to shop for a utility tractor with a front loader and a back-hoe in the 18-30 hp range. we are looking at kubota and john deere as there are no other brand dealers within reasonable distance from us. does anyone have any experience with this type of small tractor. is the deere that much better than the kubota to justify the 30% price difference do the kubotas hold up under moderate usage any advice appreciated. randy ca$e!!!! 580b construction king. the only way to go. beekeep .

From : tbone

they go bad contstantly just maybe not in fanatasy land. more rubbish. the ball and trunion style universal joint at the steering box found on most if not all dodges from the early 60s to the early 90s have a great realiability level. the present intermediate shaft doesnt fail in the universals but in the new fangled rag joint and i suspect in the poorly manufactured top end which allows for slop at the upper end where it connects to the column. further if you do not check to see that your steering box doesnt have too much play its foolish. dont fool with the box if you dont know what your doing! sounds like sage advice for people like yourself. the adjuster and lock nut are very simple and can be operated very easily. with a little restraint a novice could easily adjust it. i cal bullshit on yours $9.50 isnt a lot of money! so if it fails at the rate you claim why spend $95 replacing it all the time i bet you wont do it for free will you the question was how easy it was and it is very easy. however having been proven wrong you chose to change the subject. as to doing it for free that would depend on who i was working for. if i charged for it id charge for an hour of labor. i used to think some of you idiots now i am convinced. congrats you can leave now. now it probably has gone bad but considering its been in there since 75 i would say you got every dime out of it. ive never had one go bad. of course they do need to have grease in them to work properly. if the rag joint went bad and not the coupler i would be shocked! lol speaking of idiots...... max anvils dont kill cartoon characters cartoon characters kill cartoon characters. .

From : tbone

could be fuel related. if you have a fuel pressure gauge then i would check that out first. when was the last time you replaced your fuel filter could also be related to a failing fuel pump but the filter would be the best start. -- checkout www.canadianoffroad.com! hi guys 1995 360. i recently replaced the battery plugs distributor cap air filter oil filter and plug wires and all has been hunky dory for about 3 months. in the last two days it has taken quite a few more spins of the starter to fire up. this morning it was 45deg out and it took about 5 seconds but after breakfast with the engine still hot it took about 10 seconds of cranking. once it starts it is still the brt big red truck i know and love. any suggestions where to start looking thanks in advance. -- kind regards jenny and her tribe of survivors. .

From : joe

the 2210 4010 4110 4115 790 and 990 are built in japan by yanmar. the larger 4000 series are assembled in augusta georgia from parts made in japan. yeah but its the wrong shade of green............ randy both are good tractors and will give you good service. the deere is a green painted kawasaki as another poster noted. there is a certain prestige in owning a deere but if i had to choose between the two id probably go with the best dealer. you just cant beat somebody willing to help when something is wrong. denny my dad is retired now and wants to spend my inheritance on toys. he told me to shop for a utility tractor with a front loader and a back-hoe in the 18-30 hp range. we are looking at kubota and john deere as there are no other brand dealers within reasonable distance from us. does anyone have any experience with this type of small tractor. is the deere that much better than the kubota to justify the 30% price difference do the kubotas hold up under moderate usage any advice appreciated. randy .

From : roy

what advantages/disadvantages re the cummings vs hemi. service wear and tear on both. basically anything you can think of. like trying to compare apples and oranges 2 totally different vehicles dont you talk to any guys at the campgrounds about their trucks politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

oh take a fucking pill theres a few canadians who read this dale hes just the latest sf to wander in here of late dale must be the long winter g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : roy

i use mine with a 3pt hitch 72 mower 48 rototiller and a front mounted 48 snowblower i thought it was illegal in canada to talk us inches how many metrics is that g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

an appropriate response for someone who goes by redneck. oranges are sweeter and juicier but take more time to peel. apples are chewier not as messy to eat and no prep time to eat them. vitamin benefits are about the same a little more vitamin c in oranges. im asking for a little advice so please keep your negativety out of here. peter .

From : fwpp

my first post to this group...hoping for some helpful advice. am presently pulling a 8000 lb citation fifth wheel with a 99 dodge ram 1500 5.2 engine...got about 9 mpg last summer get about 17 without the trailer. am looking at the following 2 vehicles; a demo 2003 6 speed 2500 ram with cummings manual shift 2 wheel drive for about $36000 canadian or leasing a new 2004 1500 ram automatic 5.7 hemi automatic 4x4 . am looking for any kind of advice or feedback. i may put 12000 kms annually on the truck its used to go back and forth to work approx 2 miles some casual driving and then family travel. for most outings we have a jetta tdi wagon. what advantages/disadvantages re the cummings vs hemi. service wear and tear on both. basically anything you can think of. thanks...peter ps. just started 5th wheeling last summer and went on a 4000 km trip. my preference would be similar a 3 week trip at roughly the same distance with a couple more short hops throughout the summer. .

From : roy

40 serving that is ether a big glass or a small keg! 15 gallon is usually standard issue here. so how was this law passed in the first place you need to drink faster or at least invite over some friends to help you out please visit http//www.nykeglawsucks.com thanks walt .

From : denny

my first post to this group...hoping for some helpful advice. a couple of other things to consider. with the 10k miles you put on a year a cummins wont be broken in for close to two years. your 2 mile commute does it no favors either. roy .

From : roy

big al wrote i usually agree with red except in his politics. but he missed this one. transmission cooler first then through the cooler in the radiator. gm has an excellent brochure that describes how to do it the best way and why. they suggest an h looking thermostat that plumbs into the lines. in cold weather it bypasses the cooler as the transmission temp comes up it opens. in the gm brochure it explains what happens when the transmission temperature is too cold. the thermostat was available from jc whitney. i assume places that sell towing accessories would have them. one thing to explain the plumbing the brochure says the transmission can overheat and overheat the engine how about that routed properly like you said the oil is cooled by the water. thats more commonly called a heat exchanger rather than a cooler. it fairly efficiently transfers heat from one fluid to another in an attempt to equalize the temperatures. so if the trans fluid is very heat and the water temp is borderline hot it could cause the engine to overheat. thats one of the reason for running the trans fluid through the auxillary cooler first then through the radiator tank. -- ..bob 01 dakota quad cab 5.9/auto/4x4 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged! 84 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 65 427sc cobra ffr replica - project 66 mustang coup - daily driver -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

From : denny

beekeep i appreciate you making a case for casea funny but the nearest case dealer is over 140 miles away. it would just be too inconvenient for ole dad if anything went awry. randy on fri 6 feb 2004 155212 -0500 prowler99 camcopa2002@yahoo.com wrote thanks for the advice guys. now another question! i have a dealer that quoted me $21986 for a new 4210 deere with 420 loader back hoe loaded ag tires free delivery to my door. this is considerably less than some of the other dealers. does this sound like a fair deal randy i guess but it still wont be a ca$e. beekeep .

From : denny

yes that sounds about right. hydro is it syncro or hydro drive thanks for the advice guys. now another question! i have a dealer that quoted me $21986 for a new 4210 deere with 420 loader back hoe loaded ag tires free delivery to my door. this is considerably less than some of the other dealers. does this sound like a fair deal randy my dad is retired now and wants to spend my inheritance on toys. he told me to shop for a utility tractor with a front loader and a back-hoe in the 18-30 hp range. we are looking at kubota and john deere as there are no other brand dealers within reasonable distance from us. does anyone have any experience with this type of small tractor. is the deere that much better than the kubota to justify the 30% price difference do the kubotas hold up under moderate usage any advice appreciated. randy .

From : joe

how many metrics is that g according to your girlfriend not many.bfg roy lol probably!!!!!!!!! hey whats the deal with ma wanting to become the queer marriage capital of the usa wonder what your senators kennedy and kerry and representative franks opinion is on that oh never mind!!!!!!!! g politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : roy

brought my 99 durango in because it was idling rough and the check engine light was on. dealer found fault code for multiple misfires. he suggested diagnostic 82. new plugs 106. cap wires rotor 189. throttle body/injector service 198. engine decarb service 99. serp belt tensioner 249. front brake pads and rotors 397. rear brake adj. and clean 89. transfer case input seal 345. front diff service 128. rear diff service 138. transfer case service 50. total 2070.00 well that aint in the budget right now. i picked it up and paid the 82. for the diagnostic. went to the parts store for cap rotor and wires 70 bucks and replaced those this afternoon. it runs fine now. i know the brakes will need attention soon and im probably overdue for differential service. the throttle body injector decarb stuff seemed questionable and the rest of the stuff may have been a good idea but seemed overpriced. whaddya think .

From : roy

i was pulled out of the muck while 4 wheelin in my jeep with a 1952 case tractor. she backfired a lot but yanked the ol jeep right out of the muck. i think well of the case name now. that tractor looked ancient!! my dad is retired now and wants to spend my inheritance on toys. the deere is made in japan too. a friend of mine that is a farmer and a deere fanatic has told me that jd makes no tractors under 150 hp in the usa. my brothers jd maybe five years old was made in germany. as another poster mentioned you cant beat jd for resale value. any real tractor should last 50 years with proper care. .

From : tbone

3500 slt heavy duty quad cab with 5.9 cummins so 47re automatic 3.73 rear gears prowler99 wrote need more info. is the truck a 1500..2500 what anyone towing a 5ver with a 2003 ram 4 x 4 and an automatic 47re transmission good or bad comments. looking for information before i thought the 47re was only available in the 2500 and 3500 jerry .

From : fwpp

this is what they mean in texas when they say the bull serviced the cow. well in this case the cow decided to service herself. .

From : tbone

dont get me started on this metric thing. red the only good thing about metric is that you can impress the ladies. if you only have 6 tell them you have 15 but dont let them hear you say centimeters after the 15. lol good advice. thanks!!!!! politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

as for dodge and their diesels with the dual batteries. if there was enough room under the hood for one huge battery they might do it. then you should look under the hood of an 89 to 93 dodge diesel cause they only used one battery rated at 1175 amps and it wasnt especially huge in size politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : roy

we are looking for more dodge guys to join our forum and participate. no personal information required to sign up and there is no costs associated with the website at all. i have no time for web based forums i dont want to sign up period with anyone but my isp whom i can read these groups. i dont care if you dont want personal info you arent getting any of my info reading newgroups is much quicker than reading a web based forum plus it takes up less screen realestate due to no flowery graphical layout. ron in bccanada .

From : tbone

umm thats pretty stupid!!! this is not the appropriate group for that. go over to alt.binaries.clowns and post your message on sat 07 feb 2004 191344 -0600 ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote folks i am really sorry for this off-topic post but given the obvious number of rednecks in here i felt compelled to share this little bauble help for mexico a big earthquake with a magnitude of 8.1 on the richter scale has just hit mexico. three million mexicans have died and over a million are injured. the country is totally ruined and the mexican government doesnt know where to start with providing help to rebuild. the rest of the world is scrambling to come to their aid. canada is sending mounties to help the mexican army control the riots & looting. the european community except france is sending food and money. the united states not to be outdone is sending three million replacement mexicans. god bless america!!! .

From : joe

ahem! to my esteemed colleagues in a.a.d.t. i am pleased to announce the formation of the sss or sissy seat society for those discriminating members who have the good sense and arent too damned cheap! to have heated leather seats in their dodge. this is an exclusive organization for those who recognize true comfort when they see er.. feel! it. also those who find aesthetic appeal in a natural material like leather like god intended!. this society is open to any and all members who have a dodge with the aforementioned seats. membership is strictly limited and those wearing pink bunny suits need not apply! peta members dont waste your time neither! orville r. snakesnavel membership chairman mike er... i mean orville count me in. i would like to have membership card #11. i feel i rate with my 03 2500 ctd ho 4wd lb laramie and have on several occasions used the little rocker button to set the seat electronics in motion to warm my heinie. i would not consider another truck without this wonderful option. it has so far kept my heinie warm and pink bunnies away. -- fmb only one b in fmb .

From : stephen harding

on sun 08 feb 2004 200607 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote isnt tonight when jr. is on tv history channel at 6pm sorry i couldnt resist it. vbg #2 ouch! zing.... mac .

From : fwpp

on sun 8 feb 2004 194546 -0600 copper wmhj@charter.net wrote a lot cheaper to put a set of sheepskin covers on and it keeps them cooler in summer too... just make sure red isnt around he gets kinda frisky around sheep... i wish my leather seats were heated. they are cold as hell these days... dont guess any of you know where i can get a kit to retrofit them.... geez.... enough of the old already.... im catchin enough shit over my warm delightful cozy heated seats while the rest off you assholes freeze your asses off....... so there!! #1 so when you get your puddin cheeks off your warm delightful cozy heated seats how do you make it from your city boy truck to the building without getting chilled do you stick a hot water bottle down the backside of your shorts does the chair at your desk come with an extension cord i bet you even have one of those heated vibrating easy chairs sitting in front of the tv dont you.. ive seen battery powered socks before but ive never seen battery powered shorts. ill keep looking for ya though.. vbg #2 e friggin nuff!!! the three of ya! all this abuse heaped on a guy just cause he has heated leather seats from lets see a guy who is still trying to get his race car down the 1320 without screwing up the lin-loc. a wide ride running around in a pink rabbit suit stealin carrots and praying for snow so he can go out and demolish the other side of his truck. a graying old hippie who is tossing stuff around with a medieval contraption. collectively these three pillars of propriety managed to spend the last year either hooked to or transporting the machine around the country. i dont know what its coming to. yup i have heated leather seats and the balls to admit it. oh yea on these zero mornings said balls are nice and warm. gbmfg roy didnt your mama teach you to keep your hands off of them bg denny my mama always said to keep things in handg roy mac .

From : stephen harding

on sun 8 feb 2004 191600 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote i feel your pain bro.. with my mom in the last 3 weeks weve gone from her in the hospital about to die to hospice to back at her assisted living apartment to back in the hospital to moving her to a nursing home this weekend.... 96 years old and still a fighter... gotta love it.. man it can be draining bro... i have mine with living with us shes physically healthy as far as mobility is concerned but is about totally blind. mentally she is real forgetful and easily confused. every day is a scavenger hunt she doesnt remember what it is and i dont know where the hell she put it. but at 90 whata going to do. what is fun is watching the interaction between her and sues german shepherd the dog never leaves her always within a couple of feet of her until sue gets home. dogs have a sort of sense about those that cant look out for themselves. i figure she took care of me now its my turn. roy i figure it the same way... i start to say mom please dont take that coffee with you in the truck... then i think of how many times i must have spilled shit in their cars... it all comes around.. i just hope my kids dont have to go through this shit with me... mac .

From : denny

on fri 6 feb 2004 210616 -0500 clem mygodisthereanamenotchosen@yahoo.com wrote what a rip! i wonder what a differential service is anyway. it is a drain flush and refill. in most cases today it involves pulling the cover. sure not a big or difficult job even laying on your back in the driveway unless its cold and snowy .

From : bryan swadener

how many metrics is that g according to your girlfriend not many.bfg roy lol probably!!!!!!!!! hey whats the deal with ma wanting to become the queer marriage capital of the usa i figured youd be moving here. you and the machine can make it legal.bg wonder what your senators kennedy and kerry and representative franks opinion is on that well teddy will fuck anybody. barny is and has been a known quantity and been a decent rep. kerry he will be the next president and his position hasnt changed on the issue. god help us all if that happens! mike oh never mind!!!!!!!! g remember that it was a court decision and our judges are appointed by the gov. roy .

From : denny

sure ma judges are appointed by the ma gov but its already a national issue wont matter who is in the white house or what he thinks most folks in this country dont think little johnny or little betty needs 2 daddys or 2 mommys i cant agree with you more on that point! what a friggin joke. and thats coming from someone in the sf bay area...one of the queer capitals of the planet! --mike kerry he will be the next president hillary wont let that happen!!!! shed have to wait too long to run bg remember that it was a court decision and our judges are appointed by the gov. sure ma judges are appointed by the ma gov but its already a national issue wont matter who is in the white house or what he thinks most folks in this country dont think little johnny or little betty needs 2 daddys or 2 mommys politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : denny

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in total diy - approx. $450 in parts and a good days worth of time. now i have no opinion either way on the charges the dealership quoted you... just that you or anyone could save more than a few bucks by doing this kind of stuff yourself. good advice thanks. im sure the service manager is under some pressure to generate revenue but i was getting a definite feel that he was plumbing the depths of my pockets with his first quote. when he throws down 2 grand at first you feel like youre getting off easy if you pare it down to 700 or 800. he seemed pretty bummed when i just wanted to pay for the diagnostics. even asked me if i wanted to look at a new truck. anyway its nice to do be able to tackle this stuff as time permits. thats the luxury of not being stuck on the side of the interstate. thanks all jim .

From : mark

yup well i had my 2 kids a boy and a girl so ill take your sage advice and not reproduce further. close minded nope...im one of the most open minded people youll meet. its just not right in my book...period! i dont give a rats ass what folks do behind closed doors...its no ones business. when they flaunt it like the queer parade every year here in san francisco it bothers me. keep it behind closed doors. when they bring it to the courts to make it legal it bothers me even more. i aint a gwb fan but i agree with him that marriage is between a man and a woman. whats next a shephard can marry one of his prized ewes same sh*t as far as im concerned. ill now gracefully bow out of this discussion...g --mike interesting topic. but how far up others asses do we feel like we need to be if johnny and robbie want to raise a child who are we to judge im sure there are plenty out there who feel that anybody so closed minded shouldnt reproduce as well. all in all who cares what i or you think should it not be up to whomever if they want to raise a child its not like its automatically harmful because of having gay parents. its because of reactions from closed minded people. so the closed minded people should immediately stop reproducing. sure ma judges are appointed by the ma gov but its already a national issue wont matter who is in the white house or what he thinks most folks in this country dont think little johnny or little betty needs 2 daddys or 2 mommys i cant agree with you more on that point! what a friggin joke. and thats coming from someone in the sf bay area...one of the queer capitals of the planet! --mike kerry he will be the next president hillary wont let that happen!!!! shed have to wait too long to run bg remember that it was a court decision and our judges are appointed by the gov. sure ma judges are appointed by the ma gov but its already a national issue wont matter who is in the white house or what he thinks most folks in this country dont think little johnny or little betty needs 2 daddys or 2 mommys politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : bryan swadener

how do dodge etc. get away with connecting all their standard equipment dual batteries together with nothing but big fat cables whats the big bugaboo about parallel lead-acid batteries anyway each 12-volt battery is six 2.1-volt cells connected in series. the parallel connection creates multiple sets of serially connected cells. if a cell shorts opens sulphates or anything else nothing catastrophic happens regardless of the number of individual batteries in parallel. the battery with the defect simply loses some or all of its capacity to store and discharge. there is no thermal runaway critical mass nuclear fission or anything like that. my real e-mail address is yofuri@oakharbor.net nobulltrans@mchsi.com writes not in modern systems the voltage regulator has a sense lead that is connected directly to the battery terminal electrically if you install diode isolators the regulator will raise the alternator output intil it senses normal voltage across the batteries well now see i just learned something. thanks for the insight. i still wouldnt suggest parallelling batteries tho unless you plan on spending the dollars to do it correctly. theres a lot more to it than just hooking the two together. -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

From : joe

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