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From : gemini jackson

Q: and how exactly are they going to work if there is no method to enforce anything there is a method to enforce the codes; the problem is what the codes prohibit. i agree but you have a very narrow definition of public welfare. my definition comes straight from pa state commission on local government. as i said i have the document if youd like to read it. and what exactly is the public right i would say that a group makes it public over individual. this makes it a public right interference with a public right is unreasonable when the conduct involves a significant interference with the publics safety the public peace the public comfort or the public convenience... and once again fuzzy as ever not you - the law. not really. its intentionally done because it eliminates the action of making something illegal simply because one individual or a group do not like it. thus if my neighbor parks his kenworth in his driveway overnight it should be legal for him to do so. the guidleines are such that the borough cannot pass a law against him doing so unless the kenworth poses a violation of one of the above. in this case that would be a matter of how its operated not just its existance. however the law in many cases is enforced on the basis of the trucks existance not how its operated. that is where the problem comes in. but the truck is operated as a commericial business. is commericial business permitted in a residential area if a neighbor complained about its operation fine. but if the neighbor complains about its existance such as the camper in the op thats where i call it bullshit. it all depends on how you look at it. if the trailer is almost as big as the house and takes up most of the front yard then it becomes an eye sore to the whole neighborhood and that is covered by your public comfort. define eyesore. herein lies the problem. further as you said it depends on how you look at it. in the case of property code the public comfort must be that not just one individual. my contention is that the ops neighbor should have used a civil action not public code if the ops camper was that offensive to her. i can see why with your junk car in your driveway. problem is as was determined by the courts five times it wasnt junk. and what exactly does this have to do with what i was talking about!!! the person said that he gets his kicks out of smogging pretty girls driving expensive cars that happen to be lined up with exhaust pipe. this has damn little to do with your story above and even with your story how exactly does two wrongs make a right how does complaining about one of those wrongs make it acceptable to whine about something so trivial that is simply your interpretation of what you read. incorrect it is the interpretation of the local government commission on the case law which they have read and understood as put forth by the courts of pennsylvania. if youd like to read it i can send you the pdf. wrong. if the buyer sees the camper sitting in the driveway next door and determins this to be an undesirable situation without even getting to know the owner then it directly effects the property value. as you said the buyer determines the value of the property not the camper in the driveway. the camper isnt buying the property the buyer is. how do you know that will be the case. what if the camper is a disaster how exactly would you write a law taking this into account you seem to forget that in a community or neighborhood you are not the only one there and what you do with your property effects others. if the camper is a disaster then the guidelines of being a hazard to the publics safety the public peace the public comfort or the public convenience are used. lol and thats the key issue how exactly do you prove that it can be vermon free and still look like shit and still degrade the property value of the homes around it. looking like shit would lead to structural questions and thus is covered by the building code. i knew that there was a reason for the way that you were reacting. is this car drivable or is it really just a junk pile sitting on your property. driveable. is it in plain sight or hidden in a garage or at least under a car cover. one is in plain sight one under a car cover. while you may only have one car what if your neighbor had 10 of them and all of them complete junk. the local code stipulates that if the vehicle is disabled disassembled or otherwise physically unusable then it is junk. what if you were trying to sell your house and couldnt get any serious offers because nobody wants to live next to the white trash that must own the house junk yard next to you i think that your opinion would change then. not at all. private property is private property. id put up a fence and go from there. i guess that the law makers in pa or at

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From : geekboy

wrong. the tractortrailer is used for commercial use thus should be parked in a area zoned for residential use. ooops! should be parked in a area zoned for commericial or industrial use. disagree. it is the use not the presence of such a vehicle that would be offensive. uses which disturb the public welfare are addressed under the crimes code. they who do not believe in gun control should see the wisdom of this... it is not the presence of a gun which is harmful but the use thereof which may be. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author wrong. the tractortrailer is used for commercial use thus should be parked in a area zoned for residential use. ooops! should be parked in a area zoned for commericial or industrial use. .

From : gemini jackson

1 how lets say the 2 neighbors decided to put in a row of dumpsters and call it a fence.. but thats not a fence. so your example is moot. he should see an optomotrist for his eye problems. the fence has no effect on his property. if it looks like shit it certainly could. if the fence looks like shit at 5 what then what i keep seeing is that your examples are predicated on a devaluation based on something other than the height of the fence. further the devaluation is based on something that isnt even next to the other guys property. lets say the entire neighborhood agreed that 7 fences were ok. what then what right would the borough have to step in if it degrades his property value he sure does. no he does not. ill be glad to send you the document to which i refer. wrong. the tractortrailer is used for commercial use thus should be parked in a area zoned for residential use. huh i think i just said that. furthermore as i addressed with tbone its the operation of said truck not the presence of it that might be offensive. thus it should be enforced on a complaint about operation rather than a presence. that would be a crimes code violation not a property code violation. if he and i agree that a 7 fence should go on our mutually owned property line then there should be no isssue with anyone else. wrong. what a person does to his property in a residential area can easily impact a neighbor. not in this case. you bought your house with the understanding that it was residentially zoned no commerical industrial use just residential. sadly no. the next door neighbor sells his house and the guy who buys it decides to put 100 pigs under your bedroom window. that has a impact on your quality of life and the value of your property but his neighbor on the other side agreed to it. they didnt ask you. your okay with that again that is a residential vs. business use. thats not where i have an issue. further pigs would fall under the public health and safety definitions. what i am talking about is the zoning for land in ma. i think that you will find that although it is established by the u.s. constitution a state can establish more restrictive standards. follows a city can place even more restrictive standards. massechusettes is also the state that regards emininant domain as a means to take private property and hand it to developers for use to make a profit. try this site. www.lawlib.state.ma.us/aboutzoning.html that should put us on the same page for a bit. what section is pertinant to our discussion and to my points -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author just for this exercise. a 7 foot fence could degrade adjancent property value. 1 how lets say the 2 neighbors decided to put in a row of dumpsters and call it a fence.. 2 if both owners agree to it how is there any negative issue with the fence height what about the owner across the street that has to look at it. he bought his property pursuant to the zoning in place.5 foot max. he should see an optomotrist for his eye problems. the fence has no effect on his property. if it looks like shit it certainly could. he has no right to dictate what happens on property he does not own unless it threatens his safety. if it degrades his property value he sure does. i disagree again. if you look at a zoning district and decide to build in a area that is for single family residence with lots of 1 acre minimum that prevents your next door neighbor from starting a heavy trucking company on his property. dont you think that your properties value would drop if that happened a well thought out land use plan requires zoning laws to protect the individual homeowner and the large corporation. you say you understand but you dont. zoning for uses such as manufacturing business or residential is not the issue here. the issue is property codes pertaining to private use on private property within the definition of residential use. if my neighbor chooses to park his tractor trailer on his property when he arrives home he should do so with no complaint from anyone. wrong. the tractortrailer is used for commercial use thus should be parked in a area zoned for residential use. if he and i agree that a 7 fence should go on our mutually owned property line then there should be no isssue with anyone else. wrong. what a person does to his property in a residential area can easily impact a neighbor. your idea imo would result in expensive avoidable litigation. the one with the most money would win. with zoning the situation for civil action does not arise as everybody knows the deal before they purchase the property. you clearly do not understand m

From : bill

suddenly without warning miles exclaimed 7/1/2007 1150 pm balsofsteele@gmail.com wrote generally when i see psu failures these days its either due to the psu being a complete piece of shit from the get-go powmax ftw! or its starting to eat capacitors. the era that system was made we saw tons of rapidly failing capacitors being soldered into everything including psus and mobos. several years ago there were major issues with inferior motherboard capacitors. several employees from a major capacitor factory left and started their own company. their capacitors were much cheaper so many motherboard manufactures switched to them. often these new cheap caps failed in only 1 or 2 years. msi asus abit and others all used these cheap caps and suffered the consequences. yuppers. my otherwise worthy asus board suffered from weird usb issues ^^^^^^ thats your problem right there. after 3 boards i will never buy one again. they were they highest priced at frys for the amd. now i am happy with ones only half the cost they sell. throughout its life. no *visible* damage to caps but as it came from that era im pretty sure they were marginal on my board. just replaced it with another asus an m2n-sli-deluxe plus a dual-core amd 64 x2 5600+ 4mb ram and between internal and external about 1.4tb of hd space. didnt have to replace the psu though coolermaster its still sound. new system kicks butt though especially since i upgraded from a mere amd 64 3000+ w/1gb ram. im pleasantly surprised there seems to be as many geeks in here as mechanics. guess i shouldnt be since the skillset/interests are definitely related! im a geek that can sometimes fix my truck rather than a mechanic that can fix a computer though jmc .