Need info on plants to be sold by DC

From : Annonymous

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From : mopar man

mike hall wrote while true their primary reason for buying chrysler was not to take over the production lines. brings up this point why did daimler merge/buy chrysler certainly not to have an additional car line to sell in europe daimler execs repeatedly dodge the question as to why they have little or no interest in marketing chrysler vehicles in europe - let alone germany. just what manufacturing capacity does daimler/merc have in the us anyways the chrysler neon was marketed in the uk but has not been sucessful.. also the chrysler voyager which after crash testing was written off as junk.. during 1/2 dozen business trips to germany / nl in the past 2-3 years i see very very very few american cars in parking lots and on the road. i remember specifically seeing a handful of 300ms and i smiled each time i saw one. saw a pt cruiser in berlin late last year. i dont think that the larger vehicles made in the us vans mini-vans pickup trucks are right for the eu market but certainly the sedans of all sizes except for stuff like a crown-vic would not be out-of-place there. i think theres a reluctance on daimlers part to sell mopar cars in germany/eu for reasons that anyone has yet to voice. i think theres an internal struggle within daimler to give chrysler vehicles more exposure in eu which will get worse as the us dollar sinks vs the euro and daimler continues to throws away the profit potential of selling chrysler in eu. .

From : daniel j stern

on mon 29 dec 2003 mike hall wrote the chrysler neon was marketed in the uk but has not been sucessful.. also the chrysler voyager which after crash testing was written off as junk.. gee thats funny...the last two times ive visited europe there have been 89 and later chrysler voyagers *all over* the place. the common rail turbodiesel/5-speed combo not available in north america is particularly popular. ds .

From : daniel j stern

on mon 29 dec 2003 mopar man wrote why did daimler merge/buy chrysler because they saw chrysler repeatedly bring concept cars to market in record time and figured that by assimilating chrysler they could speed up their own frozen-molasses speed of innovation. unfortunately for them virtually every last bit of the engineering and design talent that powered chrysler jumped ship at or shortly after the takeover. its interesting to note the similarities between daimler-benz and the borg. just what manufacturing capacity does daimler/merc have in the us anyways m-klasse suvs are made in america. ds .

From : redneck tookover hell

actually it was just some fancy accounting to make themselves look good. they reduced the reserve for warranty work and therefore that money became profit. you seem to be confused between chryco and enron somehow fancy accounting doesnt work for 15 years or more. you do know that chrycos financial trouble happened when jimmy carter was president i spose your next assertion will be that the loan wasnt paid back ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : mopar man

daniel j. stern wrote because they saw chrysler repeatedly bring concept cars to market in record time and figured that by assimilating chrysler they could speed up their own frozen-molasses speed of innovation. and that explains why they swept the year-2000 hemi-c concept under the rug never to be seen again and the charger concept also shown at the 2000 detroit auto show nonsequitur. read what i wrote again more carefully this time. chrysler can bring concept cars to market faster than merc. the logic being that daimler can transplant that ability into merc. step 1 of that process is to throw in the toilet all current chrysler concepts. step 2 is - what where is the evidence that chryslers concept-to-market knowhow is being used by merc other than to re-design chrysler vehicles so that they use more merc parts unfortunately for them virtually every last bit of the engineering and design talent that powered chrysler jumped ship at or shortly after the takeover. while that sounds romantic and it might be true and there is even reason to believe it is true can anyone point to any exodus of design or styling talent from chrysler yep. bob lutz is one of a *great* many. lutz was in his late 60s when he left 67 i think. he was hired by gm in 2001 and was going to shake up the place

From : ted mittelstaedt

chrysler can bring concept cars to market faster than merc. the logic being that daimler can transplant that ability into merc. step 1 of that process is to throw in the toilet all current chrysler concepts. step 2 is - what where is the evidence that chryslers concept-to-market knowhow is being used by merc other than to re-design chrysler vehicles so that they use more merc parts um ds said that damlier now cant transplant this faster to market ability to merc because all the talent jumped ship. so why would there be evidence that the concept-to-market knowhow is being used by merc they dont have it anymore and lost it after the merger. also dont forget the us economy went into a depression shortly after the takeover and a great many things started to change. the process was hastened by 9-11 and gms subsequent kickoff of a price war on 0% interest. neither of these things were known in advance although many people were expecting the stock market to crash just not that quickly while i like daniel believe that damlier wanted more than a simple market share increase by buying chrysler it seems quite obvious today that damlier has abandonded all hope of getting anything more out of chrysler other than market share. clearly they have written off chryslers engineering and design team and expect them to only integrate merc parts into the chrysler model line. in another 10 years if damlier doesent let chrysler go the typical chrysler/dodge vehicle will be indistinguishable from the mercedes vehicle under the hood the only external difference will be styling changes. merc will be positioned to the high-end market dodge will be everybody else and chrysler will be sandwiched in the middle somewhere. this is the model that gm is using with the buick/chevrolet/olds lines. ted .

From : mopar man

ted mittelstaedt wrote chrysler can bring concept cars to market faster than merc. the logic being that daimler can transplant that ability into merc. where is the evidence that chryslers concept-to-market knowhow is being used by merc um ds said that damlier now cant transplant this faster to market ability to merc because all the talent jumped ship. if daimler *really* had planned on taking advantage of chryslers concept-to-market ability and applying it to the merc line then they would have either anticipated 1 performing a substantial amount of merc vehicle concept work in detroit or 2 transplanting the chrysler dream team to stuttgart. who really believes that either of those options were viable now or back in 1998 i think there is way more evidence that daimler since day 1 of the merger wanted chryslers design team to scrap all current concepts and begin immediately to redesign chrysler vehicles to integrate merc parts. you might say that this is how merc took advantage of chryslers concept-to-market ability but not in a satisfying way for chryslers designers. .

From : cbhvac

daniel j. stern wrote why did daimler merge/buy chrysler because they saw chrysler repeatedly bring concept cars to market in record time and figured that by assimilating chrysler they could speed up their own frozen-molasses speed of innovation. and that explains why they swept the year-2000 hemi-c concept under the rug never to be seen again and the charger concept also shown at the 2000 detroit auto show 300c...closest thing to it.. http//www.carnuttv.com/coolcar.htm the magnum hemi isnt bad either.. unfortunately for them virtually every last bit of the engineering and design talent that powered chrysler jumped ship at or shortly after the takeover. while that sounds romantic and it might be true and there is even reason to believe it is true can anyone point to any exodus of design or styling talent from chrysler anything published by any automotive rag along those lines http//www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/aug2001/nf2001082510.htm http//www.autointell.com/naocompanies/generalmotors/gm-management/gm-bob-lutz-01.htm http//www.auto.com/2003show/iwirl620030106.htm still looking for the article that i found not long ago that talked about it....the design team that is.. its interesting to note the similarities between daimler-benz and the borg. yea well like i said youre not seeing chryslers turning up in europe because of this merger. if there was an assimilation its hard to understand what daimler intended to happen with chryslers physical-plant engineers market share etc. .

From : mopar man

cbhvac wrote and that explains why they swept the year-2000 hemi-c concept under the rug never to be seen again and the charger concept also shown at the 2000 detroit auto show 300c...closest thing to it.. http//www.carnuttv.com/coolcar.htm in name only. its a rolling abomination. i dont care what it has under the hood. if it looks like a boxy bentley and weighs as much and if its got an suv as a brother then it aint no sports-luxury sedan. the interior design is plain crap. it has a front and side profile that only a feeble senior citizen would love. the magnum hemi isnt bad either.. a waste of a power plant. the 300c is an suv thats trying real hard to be a sedan. if i wanted something like that id buy a ram with the hemi. while that sounds romantic and it might be true and there is even reason to believe it is true can anyone point to any exodus of design or styling talent from chrysler anything published by any automotive rag along those lines http... http... http... 3 stories about lutz moving to gm. none of which hint at all about any discontent at chrysler over design issues internal politics staff leaving etc. again who is bold enough at chrysler to give an interview about design-team morale about the politics between chrysler and daimer about where chryslers designs are heading and whos doing the driving. .

From : johan thole

maybe i will simply glue a couple of pieces of wood to the bottom of the radio. be careful. some radios can get quite hot and interrupting the heat dissipation can be harmful. ill try to make sure that the wood pieces are small. and i will use thin galvanized wire instead of glue as i think it will hold up to years of temperature changes vibration heat etc better than glue. i have this really thin galvanized wire that ill wrap around the back of the radio and attach the wood supports by making holes in them and threading wire through them. i .

From : art begun

toyota buys its automatic transmissions from a contractor in virginia. they are probably one of the most reliable ats in the business. out sourcing is how the industry works. .

From : tbone

i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. gee corporate execs screwing employees and the nation to raise stock values for a quarter or so and get a bigger bonus imagine that. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. lol if you are going to make this argument at least be realistic about it. dc is not going to do anything that it knows is going to make its cars more expensive to build. in mexico they pay there employees 30 dollars a day not an hour like in america. then you can add the reduced costs of not worrying about any insurance or pollution regulations and even with the added middle man it will cost a lot less. what they do fail to see is all the people they and others like them lay off become that many less potential customers because they cant afford to buy them anymore. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. lol do you think that because dc sells off an electronics plant that everyone that runs the company is going to become stupid unless dc decides to stop development and the building of cars for the next 5 to 10 years how is this even possible this makes no sense and looks to me like this argument is just a bs way of discrediting the real argument against doing this. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! lol i think that you may want to do a little research into the cause and reason for the $100 hammers before bringing that up. you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. no amc died because with the exception of jeep they built a bunch of ugly cars that nobody wanted. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! yes they will and yes they did. they bought chrysler for its rapid design capabilities and they got them. if the chrysler division winds up folding they still got what they wanted most and if they can make it profitable then that is just extra icing on top of the cake. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when if they cannot turn a good profit soon i would say all of them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : beekeep

on fri 26 dec 2003 030444 gmt no-one-here@nowhere.com wrote i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. i dont think the term silly applies to corporate raiders. when the germans get done raping chryco they will have made quite a profit. who can blame them after all its the american way. beekeep .

From : mike hall

some chrysler products have actually gotten better since using german technology and parts so the union of the two companies in that respect has done chrysler a favor.. chrysler has been the poor relation in us auto manufacturing for quite a while.. nobody seemed to care whether chrysler lived or died at one time.. the way things were the company was going to fold at some point and jobs would be lost.. so.. daimler benz joins chrysler and in an attempt to save the name and the product do whatever is necessary.. did anybody notice ford or gm rushing to save the chrysler brand and american jobs.. why should they.. chrysler was competition of sorts.. daimler benz took a hit too.. their us assembled products lacked the quality and reliability of euro built products.. same for bmw in this respect.. re. the movement of plants to outside of the us this is a worlwide problem where manufacturing has had to find a cheaper base to compete with other makers in the field.. consumers want the best deal available to them.. they dont care if the dash assembly was put together in huntsville or tijuana.. as long as the damn thing works and is cheap do you think that they really care.. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! i hope i am wrong since i have several chrysler cars and i would like to have a source of parts in the future. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when .

From : art begun

actually it was just some fancy accounting to make themselves look good. they reduced the reserve for warranty work and therefore that money became profit. their second generation lh cars really never did as well as expected and their cars take too long to assemble compared to more profitable makes. i think that you need to get your time lines correct. chrysler went into the hole and came back strong long before daimler bought them out. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving some chrysler products have actually gotten better since using german technology and parts so the union of the two companies in that respect has done chrysler a favor.. chrysler has been the poor relation in us auto manufacturing for quite a while.. nobody seemed to care whether chrysler lived or died at one time.. the way things were the company was going to fold at some point and jobs would be lost.. so.. daimler benz joins chrysler and in an attempt to save the name and the product do whatever is necessary.. did anybody notice ford or gm rushing to save the chrysler brand and american jobs.. why should they.. chrysler was competition of sorts.. daimler benz took a hit too.. their us assembled products lacked the quality and reliability of euro built products.. same for bmw in this respect.. re. the movement of plants to outside of the us this is a worlwide problem where manufacturing has had to find a cheaper base to compete with other makers in the field.. consumers want the best deal available to them.. they dont care if the dash assembly was put together in huntsville or tijuana.. as long as the damn thing works and is cheap do you think that they really care.. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! i hope i am wrong since i have several chrysler cars and i would like to have a source of parts in the future. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when .

From : art begun

mercedes e class are some of the least reliable cars made. same with the s and m. made a funny. some chrysler products have actually gotten better since using german technology and parts so the union of the two companies in that respect has done chrysler a favor.. chrysler has been the poor relation in us auto manufacturing for quite a while.. nobody seemed to care whether chrysler lived or died at one time.. the way things were the company was going to fold at some point and jobs would be lost.. so.. daimler benz joins chrysler and in an attempt to save the name and the product do whatever is necessary.. did anybody notice ford or gm rushing to save the chrysler brand and american jobs.. why should they.. chrysler was competition of sorts.. daimler benz took a hit too.. their us assembled products lacked the quality and reliability of euro built products.. same for bmw in this respect.. re. the movement of plants to outside of the us this is a worlwide problem where manufacturing has had to find a cheaper base to compete with other makers in the field.. consumers want the best deal available to them.. they dont care if the dash assembly was put together in huntsville or tijuana.. as long as the damn thing works and is cheap do you think that they really care.. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! i hope i am wrong since i have several chrysler cars and i would like to have a source of parts in the future. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when .

From : pete

pres clinton only helped other this country lose more jobs by signing the nafta bill which made it cheaper to take businesses out of the us and build stuff in other countries. i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. gee corporate execs screwing employees and the nation to raise stock values for a quarter or so and get a bigger bonus imagine that. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. lol if you are going to make this argument at least be realistic about it. dc is not going to do anything that it knows is going to make its cars more expensive to build. in mexico they pay there employees 30 dollars a day not an hour like in america. then you can add the reduced costs of not worrying about any insurance or pollution regulations and even with the added middle man it will cost a lot less. what they do fail to see is all the people they and others like them lay off become that many less potential customers because they cant afford to buy them anymore. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. lol do you think that because dc sells off an electronics plant that everyone that runs the company is going to become stupid unless dc decides to stop development and the building of cars for the next 5 to 10 years how is this even possible this makes no sense and looks to me like this argument is just a bs way of discrediting the real argument against doing this. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! lol i think that you may want to do a little research into the cause and reason for the $100 hammers before bringing that up. you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. no amc died because with the exception of jeep they built a bunch of ugly cars that nobody wanted. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! yes they will and yes they did. they bought chrysler for its rapid design capabilities and they got them. if the chrysler division winds up folding they still got what they wanted most and if they can make it profitable then that is just extra icing on top of the cake. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when if they cannot turn a good profit soon i would say all of them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : art begun

clinton plus republicans in congress. pres clinton only helped other this country lose more jobs by signing the nafta bill which made it cheaper to take businesses out of the us and build stuff in other countries. i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. gee corporate execs screwing employees and the nation to raise stock values for a quarter or so and get a bigger bonus imagine that. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. lol if you are going to make this argument at least be realistic about it. dc is not going to do anything that it knows is going to make its cars more expensive to build. in mexico they pay there employees 30 dollars a day not an hour like in america. then you can add the reduced costs of not worrying about any insurance or pollution regulations and even with the added middle man it will cost a lot less. what they do fail to see is all the people they and others like them lay off become that many less potential customers because they cant afford to buy them anymore. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. lol do you think that because dc sells off an electronics plant that everyone that runs the company is going to become stupid unless dc decides to stop development and the building of cars for the next 5 to 10 years how is this even possible this makes no sense and looks to me like this argument is just a bs way of discrediting the real argument against doing this. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! lol i think that you may want to do a little research into the cause and reason for the $100 hammers before bringing that up. you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. no amc died because with the exception of jeep they built a bunch of ugly cars that nobody wanted. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! yes they will and yes they did. they bought chrysler for its rapid design capabilities and they got them. if the chrysler division winds up folding they still got what they wanted most and if they can make it profitable then that is just extra icing on top of the cake. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when if they cannot turn a good profit soon i would say all of them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : mike hall

if chrysler had been as strong as you like to think they were db would not have been able to get a foothold.. chrysler products are subject to numerous recalls and many do not trust their products to be anything close to reliable.. they are not out of the hole yet.. crash testing has not served chrysler too well in the past either.. i have a 94 chrysler jeep grand cherokee that i am pleased with.. it has not let me down badly yet certainly not as bad as some have reported.. it is my hope that dc make it.. i would much sooner have a chrysler/dc product than ford or gm and would like to stay with a north american make on the basis that it would be easier to get it fixed.. so who cares if the ceo is not an all-american kid.. it is not in dcs interest to wind down the whole of chrysler but they do have to make it profitable.. if that means the closure of some plants so be it.. of course that is tough on the people that work them but maybe just maybe chrysler will come out above ford and gm one day.. at that point people here will be whining about closure of ford and gm plant closures no doubt and they wont be able to blame germans directly for it.. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. i think that you need to get your time lines correct. chrysler went into the hole and came back strong long before daimler bought them out. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving some chrysler products have actually gotten better since using german technology and parts so the union of the two companies in that respect has done chrysler a favor.. chrysler has been the poor relation in us auto manufacturing for quite a while.. nobody seemed to care whether chrysler lived or died at one time.. the way things were the company was going to fold at some point and jobs would be lost.. so.. daimler benz joins chrysler and in an attempt to save the name and the product do whatever is necessary.. did anybody notice ford or gm rushing to save the chrysler brand and american jobs.. why should they.. chrysler was competition of sorts.. daimler benz took a hit too.. their us assembled products lacked the quality and reliability of euro built products.. same for bmw in this respect.. re. the movement of plants to outside of the us this is a worlwide problem where manufacturing has had to find a cheaper base to compete with other makers in the field.. consumers want the best deal available to them.. they dont care if the dash assembly was put together in huntsville or tijuana.. as long as the damn thing works and is cheap do you think that they really care.. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! i hope i am wrong since i have several chrysler cars and i would like to have a source of parts in the future. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when .

From : redneck tookover hell

ed in the middle somewhere. this is the model that gm is using with the buick/chevrolet/olds lines. you forgot pontiac & cadillac ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : redneck tookover hell

with your great 20/20 hindsight too bad you werent working for mercmercedes when they merged/boughtout chryco. taking advantage of chryslers concept-to-market ability and applying it to the merc line then they would have either anticipated 1 ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : tbone

if chrysler had been as strong as you like to think they were db would not have been able to get a foothold. if it was as weak as you claim daimler would not have had to lie and claim it as a merger of equals. chrysler was bought out due to weak leadership and typical american greed. did chrysler do any of this crap when they bought amc no. chrysler products are subject to numerous recalls and many do not trust their products to be anything close to reliable.. yet more bs. gm has far more recalls than chrysler ever did. then lets not forget about the pinto. they are not out of the hole yet.. no they are fallign back into it. crash testing has not served chrysler too well in the past either.. the same could be said for all american makes at the time. i have a 94 chrysler jeep grand cherokee that i am pleased with.. it has not let me down badly yet certainly not as bad as some have reported.. it is my hope that dc make it.. what are you talking about i would much sooner have a chrysler/dc product than ford or gm and would like to stay with a north american make on the basis that it would be easier to get it fixed.. you had better get something straight it is now a german make. most hondas are now built right here in the us. so who cares if the ceo is not an all-american kid.. there is much more to it than that. the technology that creates those cars and the profits from it are also not american any more. hell the whole damn company is no longer an american one. it is not in dcs interest to wind down the whole of chrysler but they do have to make it profitable.. while true their primary reason for buying chrysler was not to take over the production lines. if that means the closure of some plants so be it.. of course that is tough on the people that work them but maybe just maybe chrysler will come out above ford and gm one day.. and this will help the people that lost their jobs or the us economy how at that point people here will be whining about closure of ford and gm plant closures no doubt and they wont be able to blame germans directly for it.. ford and gm are already closing plants. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : redneck tookover hell

clinton plus republicans in congress. your buddy bill signed it and made a big deal out of it lets give credit when its due ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : tbone

i think that you need to get your time lines correct. chrysler went into the hole and came back strong long before daimler bought them out. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving some chrysler products have actually gotten better since using german technology and parts so the union of the two companies in that respect has done chrysler a favor.. chrysler has been the poor relation in us auto manufacturing for quite a while.. nobody seemed to care whether chrysler lived or died at one time.. the way things were the company was going to fold at some point and jobs would be lost.. so.. daimler benz joins chrysler and in an attempt to save the name and the product do whatever is necessary.. did anybody notice ford or gm rushing to save the chrysler brand and american jobs.. why should they.. chrysler was competition of sorts.. daimler benz took a hit too.. their us assembled products lacked the quality and reliability of euro built products.. same for bmw in this respect.. re. the movement of plants to outside of the us this is a worlwide problem where manufacturing has had to find a cheaper base to compete with other makers in the field.. consumers want the best deal available to them.. they dont care if the dash assembly was put together in huntsville or tijuana.. as long as the damn thing works and is cheap do you think that they really care.. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. i just heard that daimlerchrysler is selling the huntsville electronics plant to siemens which is another german company. my source says it will happen next month in january 2004. rumor also has it that 1/3 of the employees at the huntsville plant will be cut when they move the radio and instrument cluster production to mexico. there have been rumors for several years that this plant would be sold but apparently the silly germans are dumb enough to finally do it. when that plant sells it should raise the cost of these components at least 20% since there will be another middle man to collect profits. although this is a significant price increase this will be nothing to what will happen in 5 to 10 years when the new car designers will specify new sub assembly parts that can not be made by low cost processes since there will be no one left in chrysler by that time that knows how to manufacture that type of subassembly to tell the new car designers what the cost risers are for the new sub assemblies. the suppliers will supply what is specified. if you think not just look at how the us government operates buying $500 hammers when you can go to the local hardware store and buy a hammer almost but not quite like it for $10. it is not good for a supplier to tell their customer that they are stupid! you only have to look at what happened to amc when they became only a final assembly plant for others parts to see the future of chrysler. in my opinion they are going to get what they asked for but it sure is not going to be what they want long term! i hope i am wrong since i have several chrysler cars and i would like to have a source of parts in the future. does anyone have more information on what plants will be sold by daimlerchrysler and when .

From : cbhvacmike hall

ok my 93 dakota 2wd is having a lil trouble. when i pull up to a stop and depress the clutch often times now the motor speed will dip down and die if i dont rev it a lil. then it idles fine. anyone know what sensor i need to swap out etc think battery...... .

From : mike hall

the chrysler neon was marketed in the uk but has not been sucessful.. also the chrysler voyager which after crash testing was written off as junk.. -- history is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it.. tbone wrote it is not in dcs interest to wind down the whole of chrysler but they do have to make it profitable.. while true their primary reason for buying chrysler was not to take over the production lines. brings up this point why did daimler merge/buy chrysler certainly not to have an additional car line to sell in europe daimler execs repeatedly dodge the question as to why they have little or no interest in marketing chrysler vehicles in europe - let alone germany. just what manufacturing capacity does daimler/merc have in the us anyways .