My V-10 kicks enviromentalist butt!

From : exit

Q: would anyone know what fuses are for what on a 1986 dodge ram van .

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From : bud keith

yep the ibms have been a problem the seagates were good but now same as ibms. the wds are tops quantums were good now i beleve out of business. maxstors are fair have several of them and no failures so far. im going to research what holds up in server use ill let you all know what i find. inventor. .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

ignoramus8786 ignoramus8786@nospam.8786.invalid wrote in what are they and what is so good about them. zoom zoom zoom idot!!! -- moparman----remove clothes to reply... scud coordinates latitude 32.61208 degrees north longitude 96.92995 degrees west depth 17.35 inches .

From : papa smurf

glad to see some things never change and everyone is running to the cliff like lemmings ready to leap into the gotcha sea. geez its not even like it was a subtle troll. well the jeep thing thread had degenerated intro a microsoft history lesson....... .

From : david l moffitt

on tue 08 jul 2003 192934 gmt david l. moffitt moffitcl@prodigy.net wrote what a crock. and what do you do on the seventh month ask your gawd for loaves of bread his method seems to be working better than yours. %%%% he is one of those that will just sit on his ass and just whimper!!! o perhaps if we all paid some more taxes... .

From : david l moffitt

some how things got a little turned around here. i paid $300 under invoice for my truck before the $3000 rebate. i also received bluebook for my 96 trade-in. it was less then i would have sold it for on my own but it needed a little work. then what exactly are you complaining about max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : papa smurf

hi guys i have a 98 durango about 57k on it with the 5.9l. ive had a slight noise from behind the dash for awhile a very faint flutter noticable under load. recently its turned into a full blown annoyance sounds most like a kid with a playing card in the spokes of his bike. it sounds like its coming from behind the dash though could be in the engine bay i suppose. i only notice it when im on the throttle the sound increases the more i depress the accelerator. rpm or gear does not matter. cruising down the highway i dont notice it yet. ideas one more question anyone know what the tow capacity will be for the new durango with the hemi thanks paul .

From : john hinckley

get the 2004 then put the supercharger on it. or get a 2002 or 2003 with a blown engine and put an indy hemi in it. 1060 hp on pump gas with a single injector. inventor. .

From : exit

what are they and what is so good about them. i .

From : john hinckley

educated republican oxymoron - heavy on the moron .

From : david l moffitt

i have a 91 dakota 4x4 i have tried a 3 2 jaw puller with no luck i then rented a pitman arm puller and using a 12 long 3/4 wrench with a 3 long breaker bar i started to round the pitman puller bolt head i stopped at that point and tried to heat the arm up with a torch but stopped for fear of blowing the seals in the steering gear box. if anyone knows of an easier or better way please let me know. total frustration in tacoma .

From : caerbannog

%%%% heheheheheeeee----just another leftist/dem/sociofascist troll trying to be funny. hey bozo---you failed!!! i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve .

From : bud keith

educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve it looks like yet another poor chap is suffering from the symptoms of sdc small dick complex. .

From : jim alder

educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve is that what passes for educated these days ;-nope what it is is some smart ass liberal trying to pretend that he is funny. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : lon stowell

exit exit@nomore.com wrote in educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve is that what passes for educated these days ;- nah. its what passes for a liberal troll these days. -- socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it. -- thomas sowell .

From : john hinckley

educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve it looks like yet another poor chap is suffering from the symptoms of sdc small dick complex. dont flatter him by assuming he has any dick! but he is a dick! .

From : paul jensen

my 02 durango had a bit of metal on metal sound from same area as you when leaving a parking lot or coming out a a dip. in 6 months its since gone probably sitting on a lot for almost a year casued it. my wife and i just purchased a loaded 2003 durango 4x4. this truck a $40000 vehicle only has 400 miles on it and has a very nasty rattle or squeak that sounds like its coming from the passenger side towards the middle of the truck. ive reset the seats pushed/pulled shook everything but i cant find it. the sound happens when going over stutter bumps. the dealer is 100-miles away and wont give us a loaner car so were kind of stuck. does anyone know what could be causing this sound ray --- outgoing mail is certified virus free. checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.491 / virus database 290 - release date 6/18/2003 .

From : paul jensen

$0.10 per gallon most likely most all fuel is taxes. inventor. p.s. im back server went down not a virus disk drive drawer went flaky. those intermitant bug will kill you. what is everyone paying per gallon before taxes nunya wrote here is texas the cost of diesel fuel now cost more that the 93 octane gasoline havent even paid attention to gasoline prices lately but diesel is $1.24 a gallon here in southeast oklahoma. i think low grade gas is around $1.22 a gallon. jerry -- character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. .

From : exit

details 1988 dodge truck moter had been rebuilt 2 owners ago mild cam rochester quadrajet modified dual pickup ignition my friend had bought a dodge truck a couple of years back and has had problems with it since she bought it. she had taken it many places for tune ups oil changes ect but some problems have always remained poor idle wouldnt pass emmissions and high gas usage. i decided to look at it myself lately. first addressed the the carberator because she had just got it tuned up. it smelt of gas after turning off used alot of fuel rough starting cold & hot ok acceleration. i got a rebuilding kit took it apart and realized it was custom built it was supposed to have an electronic pump but was replaced with a mechanical one and the airhorn assembly was not the one for that style of body the front vac break assm. cannot open the secondary butterfly fully. i replaced the needle float ect put it back together and it still idles rough although it is eaisier starting and the gas smell has gone. i am going to get another carb we are not interested in preformance so much as economy so i was thinking of getting a used complete quadrajet from a junkyard or does someone recomend an aftermarket i priced the quad at a junkyard for 45.00 an aftermaket holley is 385.00 since the idle was still rough i checked spark plugs they were very worn and carbonized one wire fell apart and they all looked pretty old so i replaced all of them with the plugs since these two components were so bad i checked the distributor cap and roter both pitted very badly so i changed them as well i dont know what kind of tune up was done but i am going to ask after this i notice a defanate change in the overall operation but the idle is still rough like it is missing as before. i got a timing light and checked it. it is no where near the timing scale the if you can amagine the timing mark being at 200 the crank indicator at idle is at 400 turning thr distributor i can get it to about 300 and it hardly wants to run this is advancing it when i rev it up the mark moves advances but sill not even close. the correct timing is 12 deg i think it had mechanical and vacume advance i have checked for vac leaks and found none i did however applied manual vac to the vacume advance and it did not move and i couldnt get a vacume on it is it bad so can anyone tell me 1 how or why the timing mark is so wacked out could someone installed somthing incorrectly 2 how can it be put it in time should i rotate the motor till #1 is tdc and make my oun mark 3 can the carb still be way off and can it effect the timing any help will be greatly appritiated nickpo@comcast.net tb800@comcast.net .

From : john hinckley

educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve if you are going to pretend to be a republican please do a better job of it. .

From : john hinckley

at its simplest terms republicans believe in personal responsiblity and democrats believe in governmental responsiblity for the citizen. the republicans want to be everyones parent and tell them what they can and can not do. the democrats are the rebellious teenagers who want an ever increasing allowance. .

From : john hinckley

after a few minutes running my check enigine light comes on its reporting codes of 12 32. does anybody know what these mean thanks lumpy .

From : papa smurf

after a few minutes running my check enigine light comes on its reporting codes of 12 32. does anybody know what these mean open or shorted condition in the egr solenoid circuit the solenoids probably shot. .

From : papa smurf

considering the ram 4x4 quad slt 4.7. however paranoid a bit because had a 1999 ram bought back in full on arbitration because of the infamous spark knock issue. loved the truck hated the knock. was told the hemi contains sensors to detect knocking and adjust the engine accordingly. however i am not getting the hemi now cant afford it but am getting the 4.7. does it also have such preventive measures against knock. also a couple peopel told me getting a 4.7 on ram is a waste engine too small for truck thoughts had a 4.8 in my previous chevy silverado which seemd powerful enough. .

From : papa smurf

educated republican oxymoron - heavy on the moron tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. it was a democrat that designed the palm beach ballot in 2000 and it was democrats who could not figure out what it said a great testimonial to democratic intellectual abilities. youre wrong on all counts as usual. however this is not the proper forum for testicularly deprived chickenhawks like you to pound their chests..... i know that facts arent a big influencer here but it is a point of public record that the palm beach ballot was designed supervised and approved by that counties controling party. which was the democrats. so he cant be wrong on all counts. -- thats the kind of woolly-headed liberal thinking that leads to being eaten. .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

papa smurf wrote educated republican oxymoron - heavy on the moron tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. you know that might be an interesting study. must be embarrasing to the dems or we would have heard that one already in the nighty . id be inertested to know the stats on unemployed dems vs reps as well as how long they stay unemployed before finding work. --- suddenly a small amount of republicans start searching the web and a small amount of democrats apply for government grants... forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party if viewed from a socialistic or communistic vantage point that is probably a correct statement. at its simplest terms republicans believe in personal responsiblity and democrats believe in governmental responsiblity for the citizen. -- thats the kind of woolly-headed liberal thinking that leads to being eaten. .

From : papa smurf

i still have vibration which seems to be getting worse. it is apparent when coasting at high speeds. my best guess is the inner tie rod ends have had it. i was close when i replaced the idler arm. can you help me with instructions on removing the inner tie rod. my haynes manual wasnt much help unscrew them . there seems to be a little movement in/out even noticeable with the tie rod off. am i correct that the little movement means it needs replaced the tie rods seem ok. granted when they are new it is tough to push the bolt over with you thumb. they dont twist so would you agree they are ok ill probably replace those too. my main concern is the inner tie rods. -- .. .

From : papa smurf

-- thats the kind of woolly-headed liberal thinking that leads to being eaten. at its simplest terms republicans believe in personal responsiblity and democrats believe in governmental responsiblity for the citizen. the republicans want to be everyones parent and tell them what they can and can not do. the democrats are the rebellious teenagers who want an ever increasing allowance. funny biggest thing i want from government is for it to stay mostly out of my way. most of the restrictions i see placed on my choices i see as placed there by the democrats. on the other hand i do appreciate the dems for largely hampering the republicans will to enforce their moral beliefs on me. garth agnostic fiscal conservative .

From : mark jones

alvinj@xx.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party julian. since im neither one maybe i can answer your question in a more real world kinda way. talking and doing are two different things ok democrats talk and do whats popular with the public which of course is a lot of wishful thinking. wish/hope/prey in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first -mom ...so of course it doesnt work. repulicans talk cutting government spending firing bureaucrats but never do. rs talk fiscal responsibility but never do. rs talk increasing production by getting govt off the backs of the -real- producers like mining manufacturing and agriculture but never do. rs sound more reliegious and d sound more the other way. ds tend to be more socialist since thats whats popular and more idealistic and just plain sounds better to the city dweller. rs have a big problem with a bunch of them really are ds but too friggin religious to be ds which is more communist or red sometimes refered to as pink. ; ds tend to be on the homos side etc but only because they can be exploited by appearing to protect them from the rs. like it friggin matters to anyone except a religious zealot ds are more for women and the weak since they sell govt spending by talking more about helping nurturing and wet nursing which of course mostly just helps the bureaucrats with more make-work projects that dont do any of those things. rs talk like they are against that! but are crooked in that they do the same friggin thing. they tend to help military and policing bureaucrats more than the other bureaucrats tho. ds are more honest loving caring but are selling you shit. the rs are liars since they -talk- a better plan but dont intend to follow up. they know they cant for one! the govt is a giant steam roller and we all together are nothing but a pile of ants. and they know it so they change directions and get what they can out of it. crooked. alan greenspan is a libertarian/cato-man and -the- best guy we could possibly hope for in that position. he is why we havent collapsed economically and taken everyone else with us. but still no one is -able- to do what he says to do because of the size and momentum of the steamroller. but he has been able to curtail a few things that would have been a disaster. one example comes to mind that oughta stirtheshit... he doesnt reccomend an across the board tax cut. beacuse govt spending wont be cut at the same time and just make a bigger mess. we cant spend our way to prosarity -alan greenspan ...however we can produce our way to prosperity -alan greespan cut capitol gains tax and take some of the burden off of the -real- producers and well produce our way to prosperity -ag ...sorta! ; its just really a matter of getting the govt workers to quit doing what they are doing and switch to producing wealth. for every worker in production they have like one bureaucrat and two private service providers and one govt contract worker on their back. pretty tough to function with all that huh pretty easy to understand why the us economy is in a slump and not going to pull out anytime soon when you picture the miners assembly line workers/egineers and farmers trying to do their work with all those on their back asking for a piece of their product for -free-. alvin in az libertarian and 100% atheist ps- for libertarians the ds and rs are about the same thing in the end but in the meantime sound different 1 party suystem pps- fellow libertarians... what did i leave out so i was right then ;- -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : david l moffitt

a command economy is one run by the state like the old soviet union. how does that work like i command the frakenzy to be of worth equal to half a euro or the stocks will rise now! .

From : papa smurf

this months hot rod mag has a comparison test on the 3 diff types of chargers. hth bob .

From : john hinckley

my check engine light comes on after a minute or two of driving. the code #s 12 and 32 come up when i check them. i have no access to a manual at this point does anybody know what this means thanks lumpy .

From : jim alder

i noticed the rear diff making a slight howling sound today on the way back from the coast. when i got it home i found that i can move the pinion shaft up and down. the nut seems tight that holds the pinion in. do i have to remove the ring gear assy to replace the bearings and or adjust the pinion preload thanks for any advice you might have .

From : mike g

papa smurf wrote at its simplest terms republicans believe in personal responsiblity and democrats believe in governmental responsiblity for the citizen. so when will chimpy admit to his cocaine sniffing/awol/desertion/womanizing days when will the gop admit they have fucked the country in the ass and its not clintons fault. your tired mantra flies like whale shit .

From : papa smurf

scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. actually thats too much work for them they just believe in taxing it into submission. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. big time. top 50% of wage earners pay 96.09% of income taxes that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. definately. state provision of services. dont know how strongly they feel about publicizing everything but they show do go ballistic whenever talk of privitizing something comes up. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- ok well just call em 4/5 socialists then.... -- thats the kind of woolly-headed liberal thinking that leads to being eaten. .

From : exit

on sun 06 jul 2003 214215 gmt papa smurf fakeaddress@iwantnospam.crap wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. from what vantage point are you viewing libertarian yes. .

From : papa smurf

on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. .

From : john hinckley

on sun 06 jul 2003 214215 gmt papa smurf fakeaddress@iwantnospam.crap wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. from what vantage point are you viewing libertarian yes. would you guys please come into some power after the leadership vaccuum created by the dimise of the democratic party hits its zenith it would be nice to have rational opponents that could be respected. .

From : john hinckley

ok looks like the whole part comes off as a unit- not as described in the manual but now i need to find a place to purchase them. i still have vibration which seems to be getting worse. it is apparent when coasting at high speeds. my best guess is the inner tie rod ends have had it. i was close when i replaced the idler arm. can you help me with instructions on removing the inner tie rod. my haynes manual wasnt much help unscrew them . there seems to be a little movement in/out even noticeable with the tie rod off. am i correct that the little movement means it needs replaced the tie rods seem ok. granted when they are new it is tough to push the bolt over with you thumb. they dont twist so would you agree they are ok ill probably replace those too. my main concern is the inner tie rods. -- . .

From : john hinckley

in alt.trucks.ford papa smurf wrote what saddens me is that i start to find myself argueing the same way they do. after all when facts are dismissed as chicanery and opinions take the weight of facts and feelings trump all what is the point of trying to put together a reasoned arguement or even a civil discussion its easier just to quip and snipe. yep. / you an ex-c-span junky too alvin in az libertarian lower case l .

From : john hinckley

in alt.trucks.ford papa smurf wrote what saddens me is that i start to find myself argueing the same way they do. after all when facts are dismissed as chicanery and opinions take the weight of facts and feelings trump all what is the point of trying to put together a reasoned arguement or even a civil discussion its easier just to quip and snipe. yep. / you an ex-c-span junky too alvin in az libertarian lower case l i was for a bit but it tapped too far into my growing and it was already rather large cynicism. its one thing to suspect your elected officials are loons liars crooks and idiots - its quite another to watch it in action. -- there are two sides to every issue one side is right and the other is wrong but the middle is always evil. -- ayn rand in the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us make us your slaves but feed us. -- dosteovsky .

From : papa smurf

on sun 06 jul 2003 230127 gmt papa smurf fakeaddress@iwantnospam.crap wrote nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. from what vantage point are you viewing libertarian yes. would you guys please come into some power after the leadership vaccuum created by the dimise of the democratic party hits its zenith it would be nice to have rational opponents that could be respected. thats the plan. first we have to make sure al sharpton gets on the ticket this time around. whatever it takes i guess. -- there are two sides to every issue one side is right and the other is wrong but the middle is always evil. -- ayn rand in the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us make us your slaves but feed us. -- dosteovsky .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

i have driven but do not own a quad cab 4x4 with the 4.7 and in my opinion if you dont load it down you should be fine. if you plan on putting a cap or tool boxes on it the 4.7 isnt enough motor unless it has the 5 spd manual. i own a 2002 2500 qc lb 4x4 with the h.o diesel with the 6 spd. i will never go back to a gas motor again. i get 17 mpg consistently and i always drive loaded with tools. by the way it also has 4.10 gears. considering the ram 4x4 quad slt 4.7. however paranoid a bit because had a 1999 ram bought back in full on arbitration because of the infamous spark knock issue. loved the truck hated the knock. was told the hemi contains sensors to detect knocking and adjust the engine accordingly. however i am not getting the hemi now cant afford it but am getting the 4.7. does it also have such preventive measures against knock. also a couple peopel told me getting a 4.7 on ram is a waste engine too small for truck thoughts had a 4.8 in my previous chevy silverado which seemd powerful enough. .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 221836 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote why is all this bollocks so political in the us because on one hand you have a political party that has been somewhat neutered in the last couple of years that basically believes the way to salvation is to triple the tax on everything. and on the other hand you have another political party that believes to a degree that individual freedoms are more important than whatever boxer feinstein pelosi and hillary new gang of four have to say. petrol is $5 a gallon here in the uk and very few people care what you drive. that truly sucks. you ought to do something about it. well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. its hardly free if you have to pay $4.50/gallon tax on gasoline to get it is it is anything provided by any govt. free its free at point of supply though and truly free for those without cars! but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! im sure there are other subtleties etc. our health care system has problems due to the lawyers and frivolous malpractice suits. nevermind. i know where this is going. i bet you dont - im a right wing conservative. small & large c -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. actually thats too much work for them they just believe in taxing it into submission. so no then. a command economy. well redistribution of wealth. big time. top 50% of wage earners pay 96.09% of income taxes hmmm. . . . . .could you elucidate please. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. definately. state provision of services. dont know how strongly they feel about publicizing everything but they show do go ballistic whenever talk of privitizing something comes up. so what public services are provided by the democrats that arent by the republicans it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- ok well just call em 4/5 socialists then.... not even 5% socialists - must try harder. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : papa smurf

scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. a command economy is one run by the state like the old soviet union. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : Annonymous

glad to see some things never change and everyone is running to the cliff like lemmings ready to leap into the gotcha sea. geez its not even like it was a subtle troll. %%%% and the lib/dems fell for it! this could be a strong indication of their intelligence actually lack of!!! ;o0 -- mike g. heirloom woods www.heirloom-woods.net i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve .

From : papa smurf

$1.39 per gallon in central minnesota. $0.10 per gallon most likely most all fuel is taxes. inventor. p.s. im back server went down not a virus disk drive drawer went flaky. those intermitant bug will kill you. what is everyone paying per gallon before taxes nunya wrote here is texas the cost of diesel fuel now cost more that the 93 octane gasoline havent even paid attention to gasoline prices lately but diesel is $1.24 a gallon here in southeast oklahoma. i think low grade gas is around $1.22 a gallon. jerry -- character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. .

From : papa smurf

scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. we run into a little trouble with that one. since largely it is us companies fronting the bill for the r&d that provides cheapers better drugs and procedures for the rest of the world it becomes difficult for us to achieve a leechbased healthcare system without putting at least some of the cost on the non-producers. since this is totally unacceptable to leechvoters and hugely unpopular with those that would end up footing the rest of the bill it has trouble even being formed to come for a vote. take recent events where bush has said get me a healthcare bill ill sign it and then the press starts giving out the details that it will gasp cost some more than they are getting back they wanted the magical cow to pay for it all suddenly they are all up in arms and it probably wont get passed. .

From : papa smurf

glad to see some things never change and everyone is running to the cliff like lemmings ready to leap into the gotcha sea. geez its not even like it was a subtle troll. %%%% and the lib/dems fell for it! this could be a strong indication of their intelligence actually lack of!!! ;o0 in fairness since it was a lib trying to write as a conservative it was far more likely to be perceived as a true viewpoint by the libs. as a conservative it was more obviously a severe distortion of any rational viewpoint. a rep trying to jym up a lib memo might fool is fellow alums in just as high a percentage. .

From : exit

tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. it was a democrat that designed the palm beach ballot in 2000 and it was democrats who could not figure out what it said a great testimonial to democratic intellectual abilities. youre wrong on all counts as usual. however this is not the proper forum for testicularly deprived chickenhawks like you to pound their chests..... how is he wrong you mean it was republicans complaining because they voted for the wrong candidate you made the accusation he was wrong - now back it up! .

From : exit

on mon 07 jul 2003 002056 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. its hardly free if you have to pay $4.50/gallon tax on gasoline to get it is it is anything provided by any govt. free its free at point of supply though and truly free for those without cars! free no. far overpriced and were forced to buy things we dont want or need in order to supply free health care to the british without cars. obligatory grin crap but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! im sure there are other subtleties etc. our health care system has problems due to the lawyers and frivolous malpractice suits. nevermind. i know where this is going. i bet you dont - im a right wing conservative. small & large c my mistake. being a completely ignorant american i have no idea how conservatism in the uk lines up with that of the us though. .

From : exit

on mon 07 jul 2003 002947 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently i said want not accomplished. theyre working hard at getting health care socialized on both the national and in some cases state levels. theyve failed pretty badly so far - but not necessarily for lack of trying. or lying. if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. see above. a command economy is one run by the state like the old soviet union. thanks. .

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From : paul jensen

you are wrong yet. investigate the designer of the ballot and you will see she was a one-term democrat; formerly a life-long pubican and now an independent. no you are wrong since it was democrats who were too stupid to figure out how to use a simple ballet. you are not only wrong you cant spell or you dont know a ballet from a ballot. point is conehead i am correct on my statement about the designer of the butterfly ballot. you need in addition to an education some beano. .

From : paul jensen

tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. it was a democrat that designed the palm beach ballot in 2000 and it was democrats who could not figure out what it said a great testimonial to democratic intellectual abilities. youre wrong on all counts as usual. however this is not the proper forum for testicularly deprived chickenhawks like you to pound their chests..... how is he wrong you mean it was republicans complaining because they voted for the wrong candidate you made the accusation he was wrong - now back it up! but thats like trying to get facts from a liberal.... oh yes and you are the oracle of karl rovian bullshit. isnt it uncomfortable having your head crammed up his ass .

From : lon stowell

the inner tie rod ends have flat spots on them where they screw on to the center link you should be able to use a big 12inch crescant wrench pipe wrench or cutting torch have also seen upper ball joints fail i still have vibration which seems to be getting worse. it is apparent when coasting at high speeds. my best guess is the inner tie rod ends have had it. i was close when i replaced the idler arm. can you help me with instructions on removing the inner tie rod. my haynes manual wasnt much help unscrew them . there seems to be a little movement in/out even noticeable with the tie rod off. am i correct that the little movement means it needs replaced the tie rods seem ok. granted when they are new it is tough to push the bolt over with you thumb. they dont twist so would you agree they are ok ill probably replace those too. my main concern is the inner tie rods. -- . .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

exit wrote jim alder wrote exit exit@nomore.com wrote in educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve is that what passes for educated these days ;- nah. its what passes for a liberal troll these days. why is all this bollocks so political in the us petrol is $5 a gallon here in the uk and very few people care what you drive. unable to take responsibility for their own actions most americans feel it is necessary to compensate by sticking their nose in everyone elses business. this tendency to stick ones nose where it is totally unwanted is always in direct proportion to the lack of self responsibility on the part of the noser. .

From : papa smurf

jimalder@ssnet.com says... exit exit@nomore.com wrote in educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve is that what passes for educated these days ;- nah. its what passes for a liberal troll these days. no you get a 5% discount if you recite this at the dodge dealership. -- remove x from email address to reply. .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! most of us americans get ourselves a skill or an education then go out and get jobs and get our own health care taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... yup worse figure in 6 years. oh my god how bad it was in 97... whatever will we do. judging by the indicators ill guess well have to wait a couple of months. and by we i mean the unemployeed. ive worked hard been smart and planned well and can weather a little bump in the economy. .

From : papa smurf

jimalder@ssnet.com says... exit exit@nomore.com wrote in educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve is that what passes for educated these days ;- nah. its what passes for a liberal troll these days. no you get a 5% discount if you recite this at the dodge dealership. one thing about sitting up high; its easier to spot the nearest dodge service department...... .

From : papa smurf

john hinckley wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 194148 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote why is all this bollocks so political in the us because on one hand you have a political party that has been somewhat neutered in the last couple of years that basically believes the way to salvation is to triple the tax on everything. and on the other hand you have another political party that believes to a degree that individual freedoms are more important than whatever boxer feinstein pelosi and hillary new gang of four have to say. petrol is $5 a gallon here in the uk and very few people care what you drive. that truly sucks. you ought to do something about it. i love to watch morons rewrite history. in order to rewrite it it helps to have first read it. and please dont call him a moron they may be intellectually challenged but they do have some standards of behavior. cretin then .

From : papa smurf

well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! most of us americans get ourselves a skill or an education then go out and get jobs and get our own health care taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... yup worse figure in 6 years. oh my god how bad it was in 97... whatever will we do. judging by the indicators ill guess well have to wait a couple of months. and by we i mean the unemployeed. ive worked hard been smart and planned well and can weather a little bump in the economy. try ten years. but that would mean not watching faux and doing a little reading. sorry i know thats an alien term for you... couple of months there is nothing no reason to assume that things will get any better in the foreseeable future. of course rushbo probably knows more than leading economists. little bump maybe on your head; what happened to the budget surplus look at those deficits. even raygun and bush 1 cant match these. i am sure those 1.25 million people who have been out of work for over a year thought they would be employed by now as well. your dog-eat-dog laissez faire pubican attitude is typical of this third world nation we now inhabit. .

From : john hinckley

tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. it was a democrat that designed the palm beach ballot in 2000 and it was democrats who could not figure out what it said a great testimonial to democratic intellectual abilities. youre wrong on all counts as usual. however this is not the proper forum for testicularly deprived chickenhawks like you to pound their chests..... how is he wrong you mean it was republicans complaining because they voted for the wrong candidate you made the accusation he was wrong - now back it up! but thats like trying to get facts from a liberal.... oh yes and you are the oracle of karl rovian bullshit. isnt it uncomfortable having your head crammed up his ass i wouldnt know im a conservative look at this - im here one day and im already arguing at a third grade level you didnt need to tell us you are a pubican goose-stepper. it drips out of your ill-informed flat earth posts not a republican an agnostic fiscal conservative is as close to a workable label as ive come up with. personal responsibility is my watchword. .

From : john hinckley

actually the all american truck is either a chevy or a ford at least they are still american companies. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving dodge is the all american truck. and lets keep it that way we are buying too much import crap as it is. cars shirts pants shoes hats all appliances t-vs sound cameras etc. do we make anything some cars that are half import parts and weapons of mass distruction is all i know of. almost all of our medical machines are seimans or such. what we need is the next microwave oven if you like and keep the technology for ourselves and sell it to the whole world. problem is the rest of the world doesnt have many consumers like us. so our government sold us out to the world market and the whole world makes money off of us and we have almost no market to sell to and make money. did you note how many mack trucks there were in iraq lots of mh-613s in the background of the pictures. inventor. .

From : john hinckley

tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. it was a democrat that designed the palm beach ballot in 2000 and it was democrats who could not figure out what it said a great testimonial to democratic intellectual abilities. youre wrong on all counts as usual. however this is not the proper forum for testicularly deprived chickenhawks like you to pound their chests..... how is he wrong you mean it was republicans complaining because they voted for the wrong candidate you made the accusation he was wrong - now back it up!

From : papa smurf

but thats like trying to get facts from a liberal.... oh yes and you are the oracle of karl rovian bullshit. isnt it uncomfortable having your head crammed up his ass i wouldnt know im a conservative look at this - im here one day and im already arguing at a third grade level you didnt need to tell us you are a pubican goose-stepper. it drips out of your ill-informed flat earth posts not a republican an agnostic fiscal conservative is as close to a workable label as ive come up with. personal responsibility is my watchword. well were close on the agnostic part...that alone would get you drummed out of the pubican party.... personal responsibility i have to go battle with two assholes tuesday; they did $6000 damage to my truck and wont accept responsibility for it..... . 222 262823 vghohfe1rhklbc@corp.super.com for sale in 909 area of california jully loaded with all optins available in 98 very clean in and out many added extras in intrested email me at macs@pe.net thanks you....... .

From : david l moffitt

tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. it was a democrat that designed the palm beach ballot in 2000 and it was democrats who could not figure out what it said a great testimonial to democratic intellectual abilities. youre wrong on all counts as usual. however this is not the proper forum for testicularly deprived chickenhawks like you to pound their chests..... how is he wrong you mean it was republicans complaining because they voted for the wrong candidate you made the accusation he was wrong - now back it up! but thats like trying to get facts from a liberal.... oh yes and you are the oracle of karl rovian bullshit. isnt it uncomfortable having your head crammed up his ass i wouldnt know im a conservative look at this - im here one day and im already arguing at a third grade level you didnt need to tell us you are a pubican goose-stepper. it drips out of your ill-informed flat earth posts not a republican an agnostic fiscal conservative is as close to a workable label as ive come up with. personal responsibility is my watchword. well were close on the agnostic part...that alone would get you drummed out of the pubican party.... personal responsibility i have to go battle with two assholes tuesday; they did $6000 damage to my truck and wont accept responsibility for it..... theres a lot of that around here mass. it no longer seems to be about doing whats right but what one can get away with. best we can do is stay true to our ethical code. .

From : david l moffitt

well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! most of us americans get ourselves a skill or an education then go out and get jobs and get our own health care taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... %%%% why not the mexicans are able to do it!! i havent been out of a job in 36 years! i have multiple skills from flippin burgers to medicine including farming and building houses. .

From : david l moffitt

exit wrote jim alder wrote exit exit@nomore.com wrote in educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve is that what passes for educated these days ;- nah. its what passes for a liberal troll these days. why is all this bollocks so political in the us petrol is $5 a gallon here in the uk and very few people care what you drive. unable to take responsibility for their own actions most americans feel it is necessary to compensate by sticking their nose in everyone elses business. this tendency to stick ones nose where it is totally unwanted is always in direct proportion to the lack of self responsibility on the part of the noser. %%%% it becomes my business when i feel that hand in my wallet!! .

From : papa smurf

i have a 03 4x2 quad with a 4.7. although i dont haul/pull anything major i kinda thing its a slug. its kinda like drvingengine wise a 4 door car. i have a 03 ford explorer with a 4.6 that will just kill it with both speed and power. * note - this is just a feeling its never been tested. just my opinion considering the ram 4x4 quad slt 4.7. however paranoid a bit because had a 1999 ram bought back in full on arbitration because of the infamous spark knock issue. loved the truck hated the knock. was told the hemi contains sensors to detect knocking and adjust the engine accordingly. however i am not getting the hemi now cant afford it but am getting the 4.7. does it also have such preventive measures against knock. also a couple peopel told me getting a 4.7 on ram is a waste engine too small for truck thoughts had a 4.8 in my previous chevy silverado which seemd powerful enough. .

From : david l moffitt

i guess the best thing to do is go drive one. i have an 03 4.7 reg. cab and its good enough for me. stomp on the gas and it gets out of the way. i have about 5500 miles and get 17.0 mpg according to the overhead computer. a lot better than my old truck which was an f150 xl v-6 reg. cab. todd w. roat wrote considering the ram 4x4 quad slt 4.7. however paranoid a bit because had a 1999 ram bought back in full on arbitration because of the infamous spark knock issue. loved the truck hated the knock. was told the hemi contains sensors to detect knocking and adjust the engine accordingly. however i am not getting the hemi now cant afford it but am getting the 4.7. does it also have such preventive measures against knock. also a couple peopel told me getting a 4.7 on ram is a waste engine too small for truck thoughts had a 4.8 in my previous chevy silverado which seemd powerful enough. .

From : papa smurf

besides that isnt the zoom zoom zoom thing from the mazda commercials -- ta-daa moparman wrote ignoramus8786 ignoramus8786@nospam.8786.invalid wrote in what are they and what is so good about them. zoom zoom zoom idot!!! hmmmmmm ....... if you cant spell the word correctly and you use the word to label someone then guess what jerry -- character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. .

From : papa smurf

-- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner you sure are setting your sights high. i think chimpyboy should be flipping the burgers. its closer to his skill level. of course hed have to compete with all those teenagers looking for work so his chances would not be good. getting an education doesnt mean shit if your company moves to taiwan. %%%% yes it does. you need to be able to do more than just glue widgets together or run a column of figures. oh tell that to the thousands of degreed professionals who are now jobless. is absolute zero the temperature of your heart btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters thats right nobody actually makes the things that wal-mart sells after all.... of course they do; they all live in china. i love those cheep cheesy chinese made amerikan flags.... too many people feel that quality is less important than price and thats what you get. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : john hinckley

well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! most of us americans get ourselves a skill or an education then go out and get jobs and get our own health care taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... %%%% why not the mexicans are able to do it!! i havent been out of a job in 36 years! i have multiple skills from flippin burgers to medicine including farming and building houses. its funny sometimes when someone is complaining about not being able to find work ill offer then a job. suddenly its not a job they want but a certain type of job they are looking for. theyre not out of work theyre out of their particular job. if i was out work id take whatever job i could find to feed my family. and of course being self-employeed id have no choice as i am inelible for the unemployment ive been paying into all these years. luckily ive never spent beyond my means and always based my businesses on solid reality not wishful re greedy and risky speculation. so its always been there for me. %%%% i have several college degrees. i have people regularly tell me that their parents didnt have the money to send them to college. mine didnt either. at the ripe old age of 23 i got hurt at my well paying job as a heavy steel worker and was soon unable to do it any longer due to 4 broken ribs a dislocated shoulder a dislocated hip a deranged knee and a broken ankle from a 360lb steel beam that fell 2 stories. i ended up working in a factory for $3 hr. with a disabled pregnant wife. an illiterate monkey with 2 days training could have done the same job. after my son was born i quit my factory job and enrolled in college and went for the next 5 years. i worked before school and at night after school. i ran paper routes pumped gas flipped burgers and worked on farms. anything to support my wife and get an education. i do not have any patience with anyone that says; i cant! not one day did i eat from food stamps or collect a welfare check. i ate many meals of wild game with greens that i grew in my flower beds or beans grown in an abandoned dog pen. a country boy can survive!! i have diabetes my own damn fault never put the effort into being trim and fractured my neck when i was 17 which gives me some trouble to this day but ive never been what i would consider disabled. philosophy meets reality at times like those and ive always wondered how well i would fair against real adversity. not half as well as you is my guess that particular brand of metal has always been a weakness in my character i fear so my hat is off to you. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! most of us americans get ourselves a skill or an education then go out and get jobs and get our own health care taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... %%%% why not the mexicans are able to do it!! i havent been out of a job in 36 years! i have multiple skills from flippin burgers to medicine including farming and building houses. you sure are setting your sights high. i think chimpyboy should be flipping the burgers. its closer to his skill level. of course hed have to compete with all those teenagers looking for work so his chances would not be good. getting an education doesnt mean shit if your company moves to taiwan. %%%% yes it does. you need to be able to do more than just glue widgets together or run a column of figures. .

From : aghasee

exit exit@nomore.com wrote in jim alder wrote exit exit@nomore.com wrote in educated republican wrote i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve is that what passes for educated these days ;- nah. its what passes for a liberal troll these days. why is all this bollocks so political in the us it isnt. we havea few whiners on the group and a few more out in the real world who like to complain about anything anyone does if they enjoy it. suvs are on that list. for many people over here the label liberal refers to the degree to which they involve themselves in other peoples business. petrol is $5 a gallon here in the uk and very few people care what you drive. the only time i care what someone else drives is when its cooler than what i drive and that is usually the case. i care more about how someone drives. when you see a troll on here making a big deal about something please dont interpret it to be an important issue to anyone including the troll. they just do it to be annoying. -- socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it. -- thomas sowell .

From : exit

slatner t eliot wrote snip how much of your paycheck do you bring home not as much as i doil bet. about 70% - heres what i pay http//www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/pdfs/irinsert.htm and how about you over here in ol belgium those who dont work get their income just as well. the idiots that do work get about 50% of their paycheck in their hands... -- pros -1982 range ruster v8- e-mail address is forged - reply to group please .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote a command economy is one run by the state like the old soviet union. how does that work like i command the frakenzy to be of worth equal to half a euro or the stocks will rise now! no more along the lines of we the govt. own all the means of production and control the s income of those who buy the production. thus we control both sides of the economy directly. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. we run into a little trouble with that one. since largely it is us companies fronting the bill for the r&d that provides cheapers better drugs and procedures for the rest of the world it becomes difficult for us to achieve a leechbased healthcare system without putting at least some of the cost on the non-producers. im afraid thats not true. global trade information services show that the us exported 8695 and imported 14309 gbp millions pharamceuticals in 2002. the uk by comparison exported 10031 and imported 7446. we dont put the costs on the non-producers so why would you need to since this is totally unacceptable to leechvoters and hugely unpopular with those that would end up footing the rest of the bill it has trouble even being formed to come for a vote. take recent events where bush has said get me a healthcare bill ill sign it and then the press starts giving out the details that it will gasp cost some more than they are getting back they wanted the magical cow to pay for it all suddenly they are all up in arms and it probably wont get passed. im not saying you should have a national health service thats a choice for your electorate but i do suspect the arguments are not being fairly assessed. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : exit

on mon 07 jul 2003 050109 -0000 burleigh throttlejunkee@yahoo.com wrote i noticed the rear diff making a slight howling sound today on the way back from the coast. when i got it home i found that i can move the pinion shaft up and down. the nut seems tight that holds the pinion in. do i have to remove the ring gear assy to replace the bearings and or adjust the pinion preload thanks for any advice you might have yes if you are going to replace both bearings. beekeep .

From : david l moffitt

exit wrote slatner t eliot wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 194148 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote why is all this bollocks so political in the us because on one hand you have a political party that has been somewhat neutered in the last couple of years that basically believes the way to salvation is to triple the tax on everything. and on the other hand you have another political party that believes to a degree that individual freedoms are more important than whatever boxer feinstein pelosi and hillary new gang of four have to say. petrol is $5 a gallon here in the uk and very few people care what you drive. that truly sucks. you ought to do something about it. well we could stop providing free health care for everyone and then remove the duty from petrol with the money weve saved. but my american friends pay more per onth for healthcare than i do for petrol so i guess id be worse off! how much of your paycheck do you bring home not as much as i doil bet. about 70% - heres what i pay http//www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/pdfs/irinsert.htm and how about you im still waiting - and how much was that bet ;- -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : papa smurf

honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote in can i adjust the loosness out of the pinion bearings i forgot to include the stats of my truck 98 dodge 1/2 ton 4x4 122000 miles standard trans. .

From : papa smurf

on mon 07 jul 2003 120314 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote i dont doubt the figures but surely this is precisely what would be expected in a rich economy and dare i say it be desirable from both a social and economic perspective. from another post of yours a little further down i bet you dont - im a right wing conservative. small & large c those two statements dont support each other. only from your narrow perspective. not a narrow perspective a different perspective. thats all. by the same token yours isnt a narrow perspective of what it means here just different. thats what i was trying to determine and believe at this point ive done. i am a member of the uk conservative party the main right wing uk political party which believes in the free market self-determination and low tax low public spending. within that group the majority subscribe to one-nation conservatism which in essence believes that through the success of the free market and whilst keeping public spending to a minimum the whole country benefits financially from certain social expenditure such as ensuring the less well-off are healthy and well educated so that they can be more productive. weve found that after dumping trillions of dollars into entitlement programs that basically nothing has changed in over 30 years. except the number of entitlement programs. a good example is the national health service - essentially a socialist ideal but in fact a well run nhs costs tax-payers less per month than private healthcare leaving them more disposable income to do what they like with than forcing them to spend more on private healthcare. this leaves more income to be spent in the economy with the resultant benefits. i liked national health. what are pip pyle and those guys up to these days nevermind. .

From : barry white

that maybe the caliper slide rails need to be filed down a bit on the new spindle it depends - if the caliper slid into position without much of a problem theyre fine. if you had to hammer them in i might consider grinding them a little. try and use a 9 grinder so you can get contact across the whole rail and try and keep it as straight as possible. with a smaller grinder unless youre smooth and constant youll grind gouges into the rails. or should i just use some high temperature brake rail grease maybe they are sticking since i didnt grease them when i replaced the spindles the rails should always be greased definately. the increase to a 33 tire shouldnt have that much of an effect on the braking so i wouldnt worry about that. bolt the caliper on the spindle without the rotor and make sure it slides back and forth easily. once you get it moving without binding there your brakes should work better. .

From : exit

tell me bright eyes how many more republicans are on the welfare roles due to lack of education then democrats. it was a democrat that designed the palm beach ballot in 2000 and it was democrats who could not figure out what it said a great testimonial to democratic intellectual abilities. youre wrong on all counts as usual. however this is not the proper forum for testicularly deprived chickenhawks like you to pound their chests..... how is he wrong you mean it was republicans complaining because they voted for the wrong candidate you made the accusation he was wrong - now back it up! but thats like trying to get facts from a liberal.... oh yes and you are the oracle of karl rovian bullshit. isnt it uncomfortable having your head crammed up his ass i wouldnt know im a conservative look at this - im here one day and im already arguing at a third grade level you didnt need to tell us you are a pubican goose-stepper. it drips out of your ill-informed flat earth posts not a republican an agnostic fiscal conservative is as close to a workable label as ive come up with. personal responsibility is my watchword. well were close on the agnostic part...that alone would get you drummed out of the pubican party.... personal responsibility i have to go battle with two assholes tuesday; they did $6000 damage to my truck and wont accept responsibility for it..... theres a lot of that around here mass. it no longer seems to be about doing whats right but what one can get away with. best we can do is stay true to our ethical code. my ethical code means spending $3000 to prove a point; namely that these parties are scum. several times i have confused lawyers by being willing to spend more than i stood to save while fighting something. too often the legal system is used as extortion. if you are in the right never give in. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : papa smurf

scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on mon 07 jul 2003 120314 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote i dont doubt the figures but surely this is precisely what would be expected in a rich economy and dare i say it be desirable from both a social and economic perspective. from another post of yours a little further down i bet you dont - im a right wing conservative. small & large c those two statements dont support each other. only from your narrow perspective. not a narrow perspective a different perspective. thats all. by the same token yours isnt a narrow perspective of what it means here just different. thats what i was trying to determine and believe at this point ive done. perhaps narrow was unfair - but the debate does seem either black or white from here. i am a member of the uk conservative party the main right wing uk political party which believes in the free market self-determination and low tax low public spending. within that group the majority subscribe to one-nation conservatism which in essence believes that through the success of the free market and whilst keeping public spending to a minimum the whole country benefits financially from certain social expenditure such as ensuring the less well-off are healthy and well educated so that they can be more productive. weve found that after dumping trillions of dollars into entitlement programs that basically nothing has changed in over 30 years. except the number of entitlement programs. it is a difficult balancing act to manage but if we can you can. a good example is the national health service - essentially a socialist ideal but in fact a well run nhs costs tax-payers less per month than private healthcare leaving them more disposable income to do what they like with than forcing them to spend more on private healthcare. this leaves more income to be spent in the economy with the resultant benefits. i liked national health. what are pip pyle and those guys up to these days nevermind. cleaners in the brompton road hospital iirc. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : papa smurf

would you agree with the 2003 ram totally negative cr report its an interesting contradiction. i saved the summary here to review http//www.emcreg.org/staging/ram2003.pdf on the first page of this pdf it shows the graphical reliability history for 2002 2003 not compiled yet and all the marks are red circle high rating. but pages 3 and 4 are the summary report and it is nothing but negative. any 2003 ram owners disagree with any of the commentary in the page 3 and 4 summary considering getting one but when a review is that negative.... you have to take consumer reports with a grain of salt but at the same time you cant compeltely ignore it. unless you are buying a jap econo box you can ignore cr. roy thanks todd .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote a command economy is one run by the state like the old soviet union. how does that work like i command the frakenzy to be of worth equal to half a euro or the stocks will rise now! no more along the lines of we the govt. own all the means of production and control the s income of those who buy the production. thus we control both sides of the economy directly. and some people think this is a good idea any that arent part of the government lots of people thought it was a good idea for a long time got no chance of actually working though. do you feel that way becuase you feel it is inherently unworkable or because it cant be properly developed because people are involved and flawed. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : papa smurf

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. actually thats too much work for them they just believe in taxing it into submission. so no then. id put it down as a sort of. its not that they dont want it its just that they screw up each company that they try this one. they cant do it out right so its a lot of smoke and mirrors regulate everything so tightly that it might as well be run by the government ironically california calls this deregulation. but do they believe in it and lust for it i think so. so they have actually tried a compulsory purchase of a national industry which then subsequently failed as i said previously anything antithecal to vast majority of the public is never do straight out in this country. so rather than buy a company outright they set rigid limits on what it can charge and set up a billion rules it must comply to. essentially running the company through legistration rather than by direct hand. so its not like in a socialist cou ntry be we were refering to what they believe in and desire. a command economy. well i skipped this because im not sure what this means and im too lazy to look it up today. sorry - its an economy where the govt control the means of production. admittedly here we have only reached the point of the govt limiting and undermining the means of production. redistribution of wealth. big time. top 50% of wage earners pay 96.09% of income taxes hmmm. . . . . .could you elucidate please. the top half of all american wage earners pay almost all income taxes. nope that probably didnt help. damned irs moved everything around again ill have to go with this link http//www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/irsfigures.guest.html i dont doubt the figures but surely this is precisely what would be expected in a rich economy and dare i say it be desirable from both a social and economic perspective. i dont feel like debating that at the moment. but my point was that the libs are for ever higher rates on the top tax brackets more people on the bottom paying ever lower amounts of taxes and more and more social programs for those unable or unwilling to help themselves. so clearly they believe in and are very efficient at redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. definately. state provision of services. dont know how strongly they feel about publicizing everything but they show do go ballistic whenever talk of privitizing something comes up. so what public services are provided by the democrats that arent by the republicans it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- ok well just call em 4/5 socialists then.... not even 5% socialists - must try harder. wow if thats 5% then they must whip most kids straight out of the delivery room into a bubblewrap crate designed for safety and health while pushing the few producers to breaking point to keep society going. no too far from one of my concepts of hell. whats good side for the non-leeches you seem somewhat dogmatic - a nations success surely must not only be measured in dollars but also how it looks after its less fortunate citizens and i say this a right wing conservative. where as i believe that a country is only as strong as the intregity of its people. and intregity i measure by the individuals belief in personal reponsiblity. and that i see by which i mean i observe it happening in this country as undermined by the entitlement mindset. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : exit

on 7/3/03 1508 remove spam from address to reply wrote ill have to see it myself before i believe it. give it a try if you get the chance it will certainly be an eye-opener. do your best to observe the same driving habits both ways and use a trip where you just hit the road and drive avoid detours through town sightseeing other factors that would randomize the results. hopefully you arent driving a 10-mpg guzzler that would bury your results my trips were in a nissan that got about 25 mpg. also be sure that you arent fooled by the headwind/tailwind factor on whatever loop you choose. then dig up this thread and re-post with your data. im in so. calif and i only like driving north. i dont want to see new mexico or texas again unless its looking out an airplane window from 30000 feet. unless youre able to do the math or willing to do the experiment youll continue to guess. best regards martin .

From : papa smurf

i try never to spend what i dont have. one of the secrets of my success has been to always live well below what i could afford certainly never more than 1/2 what my income would allow. i feel im here to secure myself and my families well being not to impress someone else. neither myself or my family has ever been at risk through good times and bad times. i am neither greedy on the making or spending end. i see so many people with so much uncertainty in their life but rather than bank as much of their paycheck as possible to build for a stable future or be poised to take advantage of better times or weather harder times they are driving cars they cant afford and living in houses they can barely make the payments for and then complaining about how too little is left of theor paycheck for the essentials. unfortunately in this case i have no choice. now to see what happens tomorrow .

From : exit

i try never to spend what i dont have. one of the secrets of my success has been to always live well below what i could afford certainly never more than 1/2 what my income would allow. i feel im here to secure myself and my families well being not to impress someone else. neither myself or my family has ever been at risk through good times and bad times. i am neither greedy on the making or spending end. i see so many people with so much uncertainty in their life but rather than bank as much of their paycheck as possible to build for a stable future or be poised to take advantage of better times or weather harder times they are driving cars they cant afford and living in houses they can barely make the payments for and then complaining about how too little is left of theor paycheck for the essentials. unfortunately in this case i have no choice. now to see what happens tomorrow sorry i was sort of continuing an earlier rant. i in no way meant to imply that you shouldnt spend money to uphold your principles or convictions. our values and ways must be upheld at all costs. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on mon 07 jul 2003 083721 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote i dont doubt the figures but surely this is precisely what would be expected in a rich economy and dare i say it be desirable from both a social and economic perspective. from another post of yours a little further down i bet you dont - im a right wing conservative. small & large c those two statements dont support each other. only from your narrow perspective. i am a member of the uk conservative party the main right wing uk political party which believes in the free market self-determination and low tax low public spending. within that group the majority subscribe to one-nation conservatism which in essence believes that through the success of the free market and whilst keeping public spending to a minimum the whole country benefits financially from certain social expenditure such as ensuring the less well-off are healthy and well educated so that they can be more productive. a good example is the national health service - essentially a socialist ideal but in fact a well run nhs costs tax-payers less per month than private healthcare leaving them more disposable income to do what they like with than forcing them to spend more on private healthcare. this leaves more income to be spent in the economy with the resultant benefits. okay help me out with this one. if every customer or citizen if you prefer is getting more service than they are paying taxes to cover.... how is this possible or to put it another way who is getting shafted the health providers errr. . . .no because they are not. its quite simple really the nhs does not generate profit so instead of x% going to the shareholders of your hmo it goes back into the service meaning customers get their heath at cost rather than retail. no one gets shafted. the govt doesnt pay 3rd party health providers it owns all the hospitals and employs all the staff. of course its not perfect but my experiences have all been very favourable and despite my employer providing me with private healthcare i have always used the nhs instead and been satisfied. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. we run into a little trouble with that one. since largely it is us companies fronting the bill for the r&d that provides cheapers better drugs and procedures for the rest of the world it becomes difficult for us to achieve a leechbased healthcare system without putting at least some of the cost on the non-producers. im afraid thats not true. global trade information services show that the us exported 8695 and imported 14309 gbp millions pharamceuticals in 2002. the uk by comparison exported 10031 and imported 7446. we dont put the costs on the non-producers so why would you need to id be very curious to see how pharameceuticals is defined to make that statistic true. same way the us govt defines it. id also be curious to know how many of said drugs are we originally developed or knockoffs thereof. none are knockoffs the uk is one of the worlds leading pharmaceutical developers not some 3rd world sweat shop copying us drugs. us giant pfizer is the worlds biggest pharmaceutical co. with 7.5% of the world market share. glaxosmithkline in the uk have 7.0% of the world market and none of the other us companies comes close. bear in mind that 53% of the worlds patents are registered to uk individuals or companies and a significant part of that is pharmaceutical. since this is totally unacceptable to leechvoters and hugely unpopular with those that would end up footing the rest of the bill it has trouble even being formed to come for a vote. take recent events where bush has said get me a healthcare bill ill sign it and then the press starts giving out the details that it will gasp cost some more than they are getting back they wanted the magical cow to pay for it all suddenly they are all up in arms and it probably wont get passed. im not saying you should have a national health service thats a choice for your electorate but i do suspect the arguments are not being fairly assessed. i call them like i see them. of course you do but i suspect political dogma gets in the way of a fair assessment of whether a nhs would help or hinder your country. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : papa smurf

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote a command economy is one run by the state like the old soviet union. how does that work like i command the frakenzy to be of worth equal to half a euro or the stocks will rise now! no more along the lines of we the govt. own all the means of production and control the s income of those who buy the production. thus we control both sides of the economy directly. and some people think this is a good idea any that arent part of the government lots of people thought it was a good idea for a long time got no chance of actually working though. do you feel that way becuase you feel it is inherently unworkable or because it cant be properly developed because people are involved and flawed. inherently unworkable because the prime motivator for most prople to achieve is personal gain and the good of the state doesnt often cut it. still there are bits of it worth stealing painting red white and blue and running up the flagpole. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : papa smurf

yep the ibms have been a problem the seagates were good but now same as ibms. the wds are tops quantums were good now i beleve out of business. ive had problems with western digital drives 2 failures right out of the box. maxstors are fair have several of them and no failures so far. so then why are maxstors maxtor only fair .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. actually thats too much work for them they just believe in taxing it into submission. so no then. id put it down as a sort of. its not that they dont want it its just that they screw up each company that they try this one. they cant do it out right so its a lot of smoke and mirrors regulate everything so tightly that it might as well be run by the government ironically california calls this deregulation. but do they believe in it and lust for it i think so. so they have actually tried a compulsory purchase of a national industry which then subsequently failed as i said previously anything antithecal to vast majority of the public is never do straight out in this country. so rather than buy a company outright they set rigid limits on what it can charge and set up a billion rules it must comply to. essentially running the company through legistration rather than by direct hand. so its not like in a socialist cou ntry be we were refering to what they believe in and desire. ahhh i see your definition. in truth nationalisation really involves the creation of a state owned monopoly which would mean for example your govt buying every electricity company in the us lumping them all together and calling it american energy inc or similar. what you describe seems to be simply heavy handed remote control. a command economy. well i skipped this because im not sure what this means and im too lazy to look it up today. sorry - its an economy where the govt control the means of production. admittedly here we have only reached the point of the govt limiting and undermining the means of production. redistribution of wealth. big time. top 50% of wage earners pay 96.09% of income taxes hmmm. . . . . .could you elucidate please. the top half of all american wage earners pay almost all income taxes. nope that probably didnt help. damned irs moved everything around again ill have to go with this link http//www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/irsfigures.guest.html i dont doubt the figures but surely this is precisely what would be expected in a rich economy and dare i say it be desirable from both a social and economic perspective. i dont feel like debating that at the moment. but my point was that the libs are for ever higher rates on the top tax brackets more people on the bottom paying ever lower amounts of taxes and more and more social programs for those unable or unwilling to help themselves. so clearly they believe in and are very efficient at redistribution of wealth. out of interest here low earners pay about 22% income tax and the top rate is 40% even for millionaires - and everyone gets an annual tax free allowance of around $8000 before they start paying tax. how does that compare with the us tax system currently that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. definately. state provision of services. dont know how strongly they feel about publicizing everything but they show do go ballistic whenever talk of privitizing something comes up. so what public services are provided by the democrats that arent by the republicans it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- ok well just call em 4/5 socialists then.... not even 5% socialists - must try harder. wow if thats 5% then they must whip most kids straight out of the delivery room into a bubblewrap crate designed for safety and health while pushing the few producers to breaking point to keep society going. no too far from one of my concepts of hell. whats good side for the non-leeches you seem somewhat dogmatic - a nations success surely must not only be measured in dollars but also how it looks after its less fortunate citizens and i say this a right wing conservative. where as i believe that a country is only as strong as the intregity of its people. and intregity i measure by the individuals belief in personal reponsiblity. and that i see by which i mean i observe it happening in this country as undermined by the entitlement mindset. we both believe similar things then but my belief in my fellow englishmen leads me to trust that their self-respect will allow them only to use entitlement as a last resort whereas you seem to think many ameri

From : david l moffitt

i had the same problem recently in my 95 ram 1500 and i had to bring it back to dodge service after they repaired a section of the vacuum line which was leaking. they found an additional leak in the control box where the knobs for the a/c controls are. boatman i have the same problem with my 97 ram 1500 2wd. i took it to the dealer twice and they cant fix it so i looked at it myself and i still cant find the problem. i replaced every check valve i could think to replace. i really dont know let me know how you fix it dd. it is a very annoying problem. gordon you got a check valve in the vacuum line coming off the brake booster going to heater/ac controls that is not holding vacuum when you accelerate. replace the valve and you should be ok. denny i have a 1996 dodge b2500 ram van 5.2l. ac gets cold but has a strange problem. i normally set the ac setting to vent. the problems is when i accelerate or tax the engine slightly up a hill the venting system changes on its own from vent to bi-level to defrost. once the engine smoothes out the venting changes back to the proper vent selection. does anyone have any experience or advice regarding this problem dan .

From : exit

honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote in can i adjust the loosness out of the pinion bearings i forgot to include the stats of my truck 98 dodge 1/2 ton 4x4 122000 miles standard trans. pardon the first post. it posted before its time. it sounds like the front pinion bearing has failed. i would suspect that the rear bearing is also damaged and needs to be replaced or at a minimum inspected as well. you also need to drain the rear and inspect the ring and pinion for damage from the ring gear being out of position. there is also no valid way to set the preload with the ring gear in place anyway. your rear will need to be completely torn down to be repaired correctly. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : papa smurf

well someone has to pay for private healthcare too - you might pay your hmo all your life and never get sick. instead of helping someone who is ill you simply line the shareholders pockets. at least with the nhs you get a sense of doing right by others. the nhs is paid for by national insurance which is a small fixed percentage of income that is paid at the same rate by all rich or poor. i suspect there is a little more community spirit still left over here as i and many others dont begrudge paying national insurance when it means children and the elderly get all the care they need for free. setting up an nhs now for the usa would however be rather expensive and need a large hospital to be built for every town several for every city and a clinic for every suburb - might set you back a bit of cash. see i would go for that but youd never ever see that happen here. rich and poor paying the same rate the libs would hemorrage. when i was poorer i saw private insurance as a necessary evil that i was happy to pay as i was paying for peaceof mind. when i got richer i began to insure myself. a bond the interest on which more than pays for my health needs each year fingers crossed. if something catastrophic happens the bond will cover those bills. i set it up as entity and it is billed by the hospital. i dont have to worry about being turned down for flimsy reasons and am much more in control than with an hmo. and because it is still my money i am much more conscious of health decisions on both ends preventative and medical. at both stages on my life i lived by the motto of self-reliance to the levels at which i could manage it. but a fair system like you say you have id go for that but if the reps ever proposed it theyd be lionized in the press and class envied out of office. expect them to pay their fair share where would it end tell me does one have the option not to part of your nhs pay his own way thats usually the first litmous test in my mind. if somethings mandatory it is usually rigged. .

From : tbone

my ethical code means spending $3000 to prove a point; namely that these parties are scum. several times i have confused lawyers by being willing to spend more than i stood to save while fighting something. too often the legal system is used as extortion. if you are in the right never give in. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner my ethical code is similar to yours; my financial code is more like that of the u.s. budget and i cant print more money to stay afloat. nevertheless i would spend $3000 to defeat $100.... i try never to spend what i dont have. one of the secrets of my success has been to always live well below what i could afford certainly never more than 1/2 what my income would allow. i feel im here to secure myself and my families well being not to impress someone else. neither myself or my family has ever been at risk through good times and bad times. i am neither greedy on the making or spending end. i see so many people with so much uncertainty in their life but rather than bank as much of their paycheck as possible to build for a stable future or be poised to take advantage of better times or weather harder times they are driving cars they cant afford and living in houses they can barely make the payments for and then complaining about how too little is left of theor paycheck for the essentials. garth -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : john hinckley

-- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner you sure are setting your sights high. i think chimpyboy should be flipping the burgers. its closer to his skill level. of course hed have to compete with all those teenagers looking for work so his chances would not be good. getting an education doesnt mean shit if your company moves to taiwan. %%%% yes it does. you need to be able to do more than just glue widgets together or run a column of figures. oh tell that to the thousands of degreed professionals who are now jobless. is absolute zero the temperature of your heart btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters thats right nobody actually makes the things that wal-mart sells after all.... sure they do perhaps if you would like to move to mexico taiwan or china you can get a job making them too. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : john hinckley

-- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner you sure are setting your sights high. i think chimpyboy should be flipping the burgers. its closer to his skill level. of course hed have to compete with all those teenagers looking for work so his chances would not be good. getting an education doesnt mean shit if your company moves to taiwan. %%%% yes it does. you need to be able to do more than just glue widgets together or run a column of figures. oh tell that to the thousands of degreed professionals who are now jobless. is absolute zero the temperature of your heart btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters thats right nobody actually makes the things that wal-mart sells after all.... of course they do; they all live in china. i love those cheep cheesy chinese made amerikan flags.... .

From : john hinckley

ahhh i see your definition. in truth nationalisation really involves the creation of a state owned monopoly which would mean for example your govt buying every electricity company in the us lumping them all together and calling it american energy inc or similar. what you describe seems to be simply heavy handed remote control. i agree that it is mere shadow of what you describe i offer it nearly as insight into their wishes and desires as the actions you describe are currently still against the law in terms of the power of the government. i see of course govts can always vote themselves some new rights! that is always true. our system makes that difficult but the dems are very adept at both incremental law change and legislation from the bench using the courts to endrun congress right to make law and the reps are good at using abusing safety fears for greater control. redistribution of wealth. big time. top 50% of wage earners pay 96.09% of income taxes hmmm. . . . . .could you elucidate please. the top half of all american wage earners pay almost all income taxes. nope that probably didnt help. damned irs moved everything around again ill have to go with this link http//www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/irsfigures.guest.html i dont doubt the figures but surely this is precisely what would be expected in a rich economy and dare i say it be desirable from both a social and economic perspective. i dont feel like debating that at the moment. but my point was that the libs are for ever higher rates on the top tax brackets more people on the bottom paying ever lower amounts of taxes and more and more social programs for those unable or unwilling to help themselves. so clearly they believe in and are very efficient at redistribution of wealth. out of interest here low earners pay about 22% income tax and the top rate is 40% even for millionaires - and everyone gets an annual tax free allowance of around $8000 before they start paying tax. how does that compare with the us tax system currently on a federal level state and countries add their own income and other taxes which vary enormously from state to state. alaska actually has a negative tax rate several states have no state income tax and some are heavily taxed. massachusetts is currently 6% and rising the top rate is 37% it was a high at 71% under carter the bottom rate is 15% but that really doesnt tell the picture as 37% pay no tax at all many are actually given money a wonderful wealth redistribution tool called tax credits and as i stated before the top 50% pay 96.09% of the taxes. and then several types of income are taxed completely differently and some are taxed twice. our system is absurdly complex mostly to keep the lawyers employeed and make sure everyone feels like a criminal which makes them easier to control. one interesting aspect of our revenue system is you can ask 50 different irs agents the same question and get upwards of 50 starkly different answers this has been done and documented. but you can see with this kind of a spread on revenue nhs on a tax basis simply is a another aspect of wealth redistribution. yes that is very complex indeed. i earn twice the national average and get to keep around 70% of it which i consider fair in a physically small country with a large population. perhaps a national set of tax levels would be a good idea over there but would be painful to implement. we have tax credits over here too and they seem to be working well. ideally i would favor a national sales tax as the only form of taxation with exemptions on the necessities it would be a boon to everyone and get government largely out of our life not to mention the billions saved in accounting and such. but it would cripple the governments power over us and its ablity to buy favor so it will never happen. state provision of services. dont know how strongly they feel about publicizing everything but they show do go ballistic whenever talk of privitizing something comes up. so what public services are provided by the democrats that arent by the republicans it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- ok well just call em 4/5 socialists then.... not even 5% socialists - must try harder. wow if thats 5% then they must whip most kids straight out of the delivery room into a bubblewrap crate designed for safety and health while pushing the few producers to breaking point to keep society going. no too far from one of my concepts of hell. whats good side for the non-leeches you seem somewhat dogmatic - a nations success surely must not only be measured in dollars but also how it looks after its less fortunate citizens and i say this a right wing conservative. where as i believe that a country is only as strong as the intregity of its people. and intregit

From : exit

you sure are setting your sights high. i think chimpyboy should be flipping the burgers. its closer to his skill level. of course hed have to compete with all those teenagers looking for work so his chances would not be good. getting an education doesnt mean shit if your company moves to taiwan. %%%% yes it does. you need to be able to do more than just glue widgets together or run a column of figures. oh tell that to the thousands of degreed professionals who are now jobless. is absolute zero the temperature of your heart btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters .

From : john hinckley

my ethical code means spending $3000 to prove a point; namely that these parties are scum. several times i have confused lawyers by being willing to spend more than i stood to save while fighting something. too often the legal system is used as extortion. if you are in the right never give in. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner my ethical code is similar to yours; my financial code is more like that of the u.s. budget and i cant print more money to stay afloat. nevertheless i would spend $3000 to defeat $100.... .

From : john hinckley

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. we run into a little trouble with that one. since largely it is us companies fronting the bill for the r&d that provides cheapers better drugs and procedures for the rest of the world it becomes difficult for us to achieve a leechbased healthcare system without putting at least some of the cost on the non-producers. im afraid thats not true. global trade information services show that the us exported 8695 and imported 14309 gbp millions pharamceuticals in 2002. the uk by comparison exported 10031 and imported 7446. we dont put the costs on the non-producers so why would you need to id be very curious to see how pharameceuticals is defined to make that statistic true. same way the us govt defines it. id also be curious to know how many of said drugs are we originally developed or knockoffs thereof. none are knockoffs the uk is one of the worlds leading pharmaceutical developers not some 3rd world sweat shop copying us drugs. us giant pfizer is the worlds biggest pharmaceutical co. with 7.5% of the world market share. glaxosmithkline in the uk have 7.0% of the world market and none of the other us companies comes close. bear in mind that 53% of the worlds patents are registered to uk individuals or companies and a significant part of that is pharmaceutical. i was completely unaware of this. btw i am very much enjoying our conversation. do you have any links that i could look into this with always like to upgrade the worldview where it is flawed. it is rather enlightening isnt it istr getting the world market share figures for pfizer and gsk from their respective websites and the reference to 53% of the worlds patents being british was actually calculated by the japanese ministry industry in 1996 though i cant find the link currently. shame we are not as good at selling them as we are at inventing them. since this is totally unacceptable to leechvoters and hugely unpopular with those that would end up footing the rest of the bill it has trouble even being formed to come for a vote. take recent events where bush has said get me a healthcare bill ill sign it and then the press starts giving out the details that it will gasp cost some more than they are getting back they wanted the magical cow to pay for it all suddenly they are all up in arms and it probably wont get passed. im not saying you should have a national health service thats a choice for your electorate but i do suspect the arguments are not being fairly assessed. i call them like i see them. of course you do but i suspect political dogma gets in the way of a fair assessment of whether a nhs would help or hinder your country. ive posted my reasons in the other half of this thread. i can only go on what my experience shows me and what observe about similar matters. if it is shoved down our throats and it works ill be first in line changing my tune. if as i suspect that i end paying not only for my own medical expressives but those of several hundred others maybe it will finally be time to admit defeat and look for a freer country. on the other hand you might get really ill and have several hundred others paying for your medical bills! -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote well someone has to pay for private healthcare too - you might pay your hmo all your life and never get sick. instead of helping someone who is ill you simply line the shareholders pockets. at least with the nhs you get a sense of doing right by others. the nhs is paid for by national insurance which is a small fixed percentage of income that is paid at the same rate by all rich or poor. i suspect there is a little more community spirit still left over here as i and many others dont begrudge paying national insurance when it means children and the elderly get all the care they need for free. setting up an nhs now for the usa would however be rather expensive and need a large hospital to be built for every town several for every city and a clinic for every suburb - might set you back a bit of cash. see i would go for that but youd never ever see that happen here. rich and poor paying the same rate the libs would hemorrage. hehe - weve all got the same body parts - seems fair to all apy the same! when i was poorer i saw private insurance as a necessary evil that i was happy to pay as i was paying for peaceof mind. when i got richer i began to insure myself. a bond the interest on which more than pays for my health needs each year fingers crossed. if something catastrophic happens the bond will cover those bills. i set it up as entity and it is billed by the hospital. i dont have to worry about being turned down for flimsy reasons and am much more in control than with an hmo. and because it is still my money i am much more conscious of health decisions on both ends preventative and medical. at both stages on my life i lived by the motto of self-reliance to the levels at which i could manage it. but a fair system like you say you have id go for that but if the reps ever proposed it theyd be lionized in the press and class envied out of office. expect them to pay their fair share where would it end tell me does one have the option not to part of your nhs pay his own way thats usually the first litmous test in my mind. if somethings mandatory it is usually rigged. oh good grief no! of course its not optional its a tax but i dont think its fair to say its rigged. the funny thing is although it is said that 40 million americans dont have any medical cover in reality they do. the nhs doesnt only offer free healthcare to the british it offers free healthcare to everyone including all americans. a friend of mine from chesapeake was visiting and broke his ankle falling off my land rover and was taken to accident & emergency and treated. next day on being discharged he approached the matron and started sorted through his credit cards much to her amazement! all youve got to do is catch a flight next time you feel ill! -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote we both believe similar things then but my belief in my fellow englishmen leads me to trust that their self-respect will allow them only to use entitlement as a last resort whereas you seem to think many americans will immediately give up trying if they can get the basics for free. forty years of experience has shown me that it works that way here. the more that is given the more they not only want but they more that they feel they deserve. pick a random person around my parts and on one hand they are proudly milking the system for what its worth and decrying the rich as selfish greedy and not paying their fair share. its both insane and maddening. of cpurse it doesnt help that the entitlements here are designed to make you more dependant. for instance unemployment discourages working by making it largely an all or nothing deal. you cant work a little and build your way up with slowly reduced benefits because that would lead too many people off the roles and not dependant on the government. the system wants to be milked. i certainly wouldnt criticise what is clearly your experience perhaps i am too much the optimist. the unemployed here get what is called job seekers allowance which is only paid if you can prove you are actively seeking a job and not excluding any offers unreasonably. it seems pretty effective along with our reasonably robust economy keeping unemployment down to 5%. oops hit reply prematurely. technically they have to looking for work but the enforcement on this comes and goes depending on who is in power. and they only have to looking within their speciality. our unemployment has reached the 10 year high of 6.4% which has caused almost orgiastic joy amoungst the press and anti-conservatives. bit less fussy here - you get a little time to find your preferred line of work if not its whatever pays the bills. and perhaps your countrymen give you reason to be more optimistic. ours is ladden with a growing number of social leeches. it should be pointed out by me that this country still has a strong backbone of incredible hard-working caring ethiced people as well. i think the values held by most britons of a strong work ethic and belief in self responsibility are also common in the americans i meet. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : papa smurf

if your truck is unladen leave it in od. what if a swallow is unladen can it also be left in od assuming of course that its a european swallow what if the lading is coconuts does the truck grip them by the husk long day..... max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : papa smurf

denny are you able to provide a more specific location for the check valve dan you got a check valve in the vacuum line coming off the brake booster going to heater/ac controls that is not holding vacuum when you accelerate. replace the valve and you should be ok. denny i have a 1996 dodge b2500 ram van 5.2l. ac gets cold but has a strange problem. i normally set the ac setting to vent. the problems is when i accelerate or tax the engine slightly up a hill the venting system changes on its own from vent to bi-level to defrost. once the engine smoothes out the venting changes back to the proper vent selection. does anyone have any experience or advice regarding this problem dan .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote ahhh i see your definition. in truth nationalisation really involves the creation of a state owned monopoly which would mean for example your govt buying every electricity company in the us lumping them all together and calling it american energy inc or similar. what you describe seems to be simply heavy handed remote control. i agree that it is mere shadow of what you describe i offer it nearly as insight into their wishes and desires as the actions you describe are currently still against the law in terms of the power of the government. i see of course govts can always vote themselves some new rights! that is always true. our system makes that difficult but the dems are very adept at both incremental law change and legislation from the bench using the courts to endrun congress right to make law and the reps are good at using abusing safety fears for greater control. politicians will always be politicians. redistribution of wealth. big time. top 50% of wage earners pay 96.09% of income taxes hmmm. . . . . .could you elucidate please. the top half of all american wage earners pay almost all income taxes. nope that probably didnt help. damned irs moved everything around again ill have to go with this link http//www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/irsfigures.guest.html i dont doubt the figures but surely this is precisely what would be expected in a rich economy and dare i say it be desirable from both a social and economic perspective. i dont feel like debating that at the moment. but my point was that the libs are for ever higher rates on the top tax brackets more people on the bottom paying ever lower amounts of taxes and more and more social programs for those unable or unwilling to help themselves. so clearly they believe in and are very efficient at redistribution of wealth. out of interest here low earners pay about 22% income tax and the top rate is 40% even for millionaires - and everyone gets an annual tax free allowance of around $8000 before they start paying tax. how does that compare with the us tax system currently on a federal level state and countries add their own income and other taxes which vary enormously from state to state. alaska actually has a negative tax rate several states have no state income tax and some are heavily taxed. massachusetts is currently 6% and rising the top rate is 37% it was a high at 71% under carter the bottom rate is 15% but that really doesnt tell the picture as 37% pay no tax at all many are actually given money a wonderful wealth redistribution tool called tax credits and as i stated before the top 50% pay 96.09% of the taxes. and then several types of income are taxed completely differently and some are taxed twice. our system is absurdly complex mostly to keep the lawyers employeed and make sure everyone feels like a criminal which makes them easier to control. one interesting aspect of our revenue system is you can ask 50 different irs agents the same question and get upwards of 50 starkly different answers this has been done and documented. but you can see with this kind of a spread on revenue nhs on a tax basis simply is a another aspect of wealth redistribution. yes that is very complex indeed. i earn twice the national average and get to keep around 70% of it which i consider fair in a physically small country with a large population. perhaps a national set of tax levels would be a good idea over there but would be painful to implement. we have tax credits over here too and they seem to be working well. ideally i would favor a national sales tax as the only form of taxation with exemptions on the necessities it would be a boon to everyone and get government largely out of our life not to mention the billions saved in accounting and such. but it would cripple the governments power over us and its ablity to buy favor so it will never happen. hmmm. . . . .shame but anyone who really put their back into making it change would be worth a vote. state provision of services. dont know how strongly they feel about publicizing everything but they show do go ballistic whenever talk of privitizing something comes up. so what public services are provided by the democrats that arent by the republicans it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- ok well just call em 4/5 socialists then.... not even 5% socialists - must try harder. wow if thats 5% then they must whip most kids straight out of the delivery room into a bubblewrap crate designed for safety and health while pushing the few producers to breaking point to keep society going. no too far from one of my concepts of hell. whats good side for the non-leeches you seem somewhat dogmatic - a nations success surely must not only be measured in dollars but also how it looks after its less

From : david l moffitt

hi guys i have a 98 durango about 57k on it with the 5.9l. ive had a slight noise from behind the dash for awhile a very faint flutter noticable under load. recently its turned into a full blown annoyance sounds most like a kid with a playing card in the spokes of his bike. it sounds like its coming from behind the dash though could be in the engine bay i suppose. i only notice it when im on the throttle the sound increases the more i depress the accelerator. rpm or gear does not matter. cruising down the highway i dont notice it yet. ideas one more question anyone know what the tow capacity will be for the new durango with the hemi thanks paul sounds kinda like an exhaust leak. is it louder when the engine is cold hd .

From : exit

would you agree with the 2003 ram totally negative cr report its an interesting contradiction. i saved the summary here to review http//www.emcreg.org/staging/ram2003.pdf on the first page of this pdf it shows the graphical reliability history for 2002 2003 not compiled yet and all the marks are red circle high rating. but pages 3 and 4 are the summary report and it is nothing but negative. any 2003 ram owners disagree with any of the commentary in the page 3 and 4 summary considering getting one but when a review is that negative.... you have to take consumer reports with a grain of salt but at the same time you cant compeltely ignore it. thanks todd just reading a couple of their opinions makes me completely disregard the entire article. the four wheel discs are by far the best brakes i have used in any truck and the exhaust has a very pleasing light rumble tone. i only have a bit over 1100 miles on my 03 so far but cant complain about a single thing. hd .

From : barry white

i would suspect that the rear bearing is also damaged and needs to be replaced or at a minimum inspected as well. replaced. its damaged no doubt. while i agree that it should be replaced it may be perfectly ok. you also need to drain the rear and inspect the ring and pinion for damage from the ring gear being out of position. im sure you mean pinion gear being out of position right oops my mistake. yes i was talking about the pinion gear being out of position but either way you still need to remove the cover to inspect them. your rear will need to be completely torn down to be repaired correctly. instead of replaced like you said in the previous post i think that you may be confused again. i dont recall ever saying to replace the entire rear but here is yet another failure posted to this group from a truck in the same series and age bracket as mine. seems that there are more failures of this particular rear then you would care to admit to. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : papa smurf

i try never to spend what i dont have. one of the secrets of my success has been to always live well below what i could afford certainly never more than 1/2 what my income would allow. i feel im here to secure myself and my families well being not to impress someone else. neither myself or my family has ever been at risk through good times and bad times. i am neither greedy on the making or spending end. i see so many people with so much uncertainty in their life but rather than bank as much of their paycheck as possible to build for a stable future or be poised to take advantage of better times or weather harder times they are driving cars they cant afford and living in houses they can barely make the payments for and then complaining about how too little is left of theor paycheck for the essentials. unfortunately in this case i have no choice. now to see what happens tomorrow sorry i was sort of continuing an earlier rant. i in no way meant to imply that you shouldnt spend money to uphold your principles or convictions. our values and ways must be upheld at all costs. well see how i feel about that tomorrow - .

From : papa smurf

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals.

From : barry white

on mon 7 jul 2003 165142 -0700 barry white singingin@theafterlife.com wrote i worked for blue cross for about three years once and let me tell you the cost of health care has absolutely no relationship to the insurance premiums charged. its legalized extortion; like dealing with the mob... companies like blue cross piss money like it was water. they are non-profit so they have to make sure they dont show any profit every year; as a result you should see where they squander their booty they also invest in lost cause enterprises which are guaranteed money losers; thats not by accident either. blue cross/blue shield is in the process of going for profit in north carolina. loads of folks are bitching about that too. oh that will be a license to cornhole! .

From : exit

alvinj@xx.com wrote liberals over here are happy to be called liberals because it means someone who treads a sensible middle line and believes in others freedoms and rights. thats what it meant here too back around 1900 after the women got to vote it changed! then it turned into helping you out whether you wanted help or not. well someone has to pay for private healthcare too - you might pay your hmo all your life and never get sick. instead of helping someone who is ill you simply line the shareholders pockets. julian. nope. / they go belly up all the time the share holders get screwed. too bad tho since they were the ones that laid their money on the line. but what i want to hear from you is just exactly what is the matter with profit / absolutely nothing i rely on it for my income! did you ever think for a moment that the profit comes from careful management the profit is nothing more than pocketing what would otherwise be wasted by the system especially if it were ran by bureaucrats didnt the collapse of the ussr teach you anything yes - i am an entrepreneur by trade i was merely pointing out that there are circumstances where profit can be better employed than in dividends. the collapse of the ussr taught me that the free market economy that has flourished in the uk for over 3000 years and recently copied by certain north american colonies works splendidly well. you had me fooled but not anymore you are no longer a conservative in my eyes. / but then i shouldnt be surprized i knew an english uofa student that claimed to be liberatarian that was socialist as anything. he constantly argued to the contrary too. we were on a liberatarian-list together and when showing up for meetings would always start and maintain a fight. well what can you expect from a student i shouldnt think it takes much to fool you but this time you are fooling yourself. i think he was really a -libertine- that wanted govt/tax payers to provide for him. he was extra good with the english language like you are too bad he didnt understand the difference between libertine and libertarian. i provide employment for others in my business - i have only ever provided for myself. your blind assumptions weaken your argument such as it is. and i apologise fur all thar fancy book-lurnin words. i understand the oed difference between those words but not your north american political dogma version of them. being a libertarian i really like foreiners fur-ners; but that was one i was glad went back home. furners -usually- show up here looking for -freedom- and opportunity and that is so cool! alvin in az how can i be foreign you are the colonist speaking someone elses language whilst occupying someone elses land by force. . . . . . . ;- but seriously - if you want to see queues of tens of thousands of immigrants seeking a better life just come to britain - we are over-run with them no longer from the empire but now from eastern europe and the middle east. there are more iraqis in london than baghdad and one of saddams sisters lives 10 miles from me. really! now thats a free country for you! -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : papa smurf

alvinj@xx.com wrote liberals over here are happy to be called liberals because it means someone who treads a sensible middle line and believes in others freedoms and rights. thats what it meant here too back around 1900 after the women got to vote it changed! then it turned into helping you out whether you wanted help or not. well someone has to pay for private healthcare too - you might pay your hmo all your life and never get sick. instead of helping someone who is ill you simply line the shareholders pockets. julian. nope. / they go belly up all the time the share holders get screwed. too bad tho since they were the ones that laid their money on the line. but what i want to hear from you is just exactly what is the matter with profit / absolutely nothing i rely on it for my income! did you ever think for a moment that the profit comes from careful management the profit is nothing more than pocketing what would otherwise be wasted by the system especially if it were ran by bureaucrats didnt the collapse of the ussr teach you anything yes - i am an entrepreneur by trade i was merely pointing out that there are circumstances where profit can be better employed than in dividends. the collapse of the ussr taught me that the free market economy that has flourished in the uk for over 3000 years and recently copied by certain north american colonies works splendidly well. you had me fooled but not anymore you are no longer a conservative in my eyes. / but then i shouldnt be surprized i knew an english uofa student that claimed to be liberatarian that was socialist as anything. he constantly argued to the contrary too. we were on a liberatarian-list together and when showing up for meetings would always start and maintain a fight. well what can you expect from a student i shouldnt think it takes much to fool you but this time you are fooling yourself. i think he was really a -libertine- that wanted govt/tax payers to provide for him. he was extra good with the english language like you are too bad he didnt understand the difference between libertine and libertarian. i provide employment for others in my business - i have only ever provided for myself. your blind assumptions weaken your argument such as it is. and i apologise fur all thar fancy book-lurnin words. i understand the oed difference between those words but not your north american political dogma version of them. being a libertarian i really like foreiners fur-ners; but that was one i was glad went back home. furners -usually- show up here looking for -freedom- and opportunity and that is so cool! alvin in az how can i be foreign you are the colonist speaking someone elses language whilst occupying someone elses land by force. . . . . . . ;- but seriously - if you want to see queues of tens of thousands of immigrants seeking a better life just come to britain - we are over-run with them no longer from the empire but now from eastern europe and the middle east. there are more iraqis in london than baghdad and one of saddams sisters lives 10 miles from me. really! now thats a free country for you! so you are saying its a lot like michigan sorry had to but in. loved your response and that made me realize another thing i enjoyed in our conversation. i didnt feel i had to dumb-down my vocabulary which was a refreshing change from most posts. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote we both believe similar things then but my belief in my fellow englishmen leads me to trust that their self-respect will allow them only to use entitlement as a last resort whereas you seem to think many americans will immediately give up trying if they can get the basics for free. forty years of experience has shown me that it works that way here. the more that is given the more they not only want but they more that they feel they deserve. pick a random person around my parts and on one hand they are proudly milking the system for what its worth and decrying the rich as selfish greedy and not paying their fair share. its both insane and maddening. of cpurse it doesnt help that the entitlements here are designed to make you more dependant. for instance unemployment discourages working by making it largely an all or nothing deal. you cant work a little and build your way up with slowly reduced benefits because that would lead too many people off the roles and not dependant on the government. the system wants to be milked. i certainly wouldnt criticise what is clearly your experience perhaps i am too much the optimist. the unemployed here get what is called job seekers allowance which is only paid if you can prove you are actively seeking a job and not excluding any offers unreasonably. it seems pretty effective along with our reasonably robust economy keeping unemployment down to 5%. oops hit reply prematurely. technically they have to looking for work but the enforcement on this comes and goes depending on who is in power. and they only have to looking within their speciality. our unemployment has reached the 10 year high of 6.4% which has caused almost orgiastic joy amoungst the press and anti-conservatives. bit less fussy here - you get a little time to find your preferred line of work if not its whatever pays the bills. and perhaps your countrymen give you reason to be more optimistic. ours is ladden with a growing number of social leeches. it should be pointed out by me that this country still has a strong backbone of incredible hard-working caring ethiced people as well. i think the values held by most britons of a strong work ethic and belief in self responsibility are also common in the americans i meet. but then you only meet the ones that have gotten it together enough to travel not the group that hangs out behind the 7-11 each night. very true but i still hang on to my prejudice that at heart the american majority are worthy people who share most of the aims and beliefs that are prevalent throughout our common history. -- i cant disagree with that. america is filled with great people but i am cynical that each generation is less so. my own children were partially home schooled and partially schooled in canada as their mother refused to allow them into the american public school system and made a thorough and incontrivertable case for that opinion. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : papa smurf

to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. we run into a little trouble with that one. since largely it is us companies fronting the bill for the r&d that provides cheapers better drugs and procedures for the rest of the world it becomes difficult for us to achieve a leechbased healthcare system without putting at least some of the cost on the non-producers. im afraid thats not true. global trade information services show that the us exported 8695 and imported 14309 gbp millions pharamceuticals in 2002. the uk by comparison exported 10031 and imported 7446. we dont put the costs on the non-producers so why would you need to id be very curious to see how pharameceuticals is defined to make that statistic true. same way the us govt defines it. id also be curious to know how many of said drugs are we originally developed or knockoffs thereof. none are knockoffs the uk is one of the worlds leading pharmaceutical developers not some 3rd world sweat shop copying us drugs. us giant pfizer is the worlds biggest pharmaceutical co. with 7.5% of the world market share. glaxosmithkline in the uk have 7.0% of the world market and none of the other us companies comes close. bear in mind that 53% of the worlds patents are registered to uk individuals or companies and a significant part of that is pharmaceutical. i was completely unaware of this. btw i am very much enjoying our conversation. do you have any links that i could look into this with always like to upgrade the worldview where it is flawed. it is rather enlightening isnt it always. it is nearly impossible to have a nice reasoned political arguement any more. both sides are so charged so pissed so wary of being lead it a trap and neither side really listening that mostly it rapidly breakdowns into ridiculous statements and personal attacks. and im just as guilty as this coming in with as much baggage as i have. its been very pleasent to have a discussion that hasnt hasnt imediately been reduced to the im a dickhead no youre a dickhead. level. agreed - i think party politics is treated a little less seriously here and is all the better for it part of why it is taken seriously here is that it is serious. the differences argued might seem little from your vantage point but for me it means how deeply others are allowed to rip into my pocket and for others its how deeply into the trouth they can dig. since i dislike being robbed it upsets me. since others have been taught not to handle things themselves they live in fear of this support being taken away and are angry at the reality of the situation. so angers and fears run high and cloud judegments on all sides. and then the politicians stir up and exaggerate those fears to get votes.... you should remember its only money - nothing worth getting stressed over. there are more important things in life. i personally put a lot of this stress down to inadequate holidays/vacations in the us - you chaps work hard and take no time off to appreciate the finer things in life. most people get around 25 days holiday per year here which is very civilised. but if youve ever watched the british parliament live its hard to take them seriously. on the whole however most mps do a good job of representing their constituencies and have to run an open surgery every week where their electorate have unfettered free access to them to complain about the bins not being emptied or whatever - its great leveller and brings them down to earth! i like that sounds like a great humbler and keeps them more in touch with the people. tough to implement that with such a large population i would think though.. it works out to about 92000 people per mp - how many senators/congressmen are there versus the population over there istr getting the world market share figures for pfizer and gsk from their respective websites and the reference to 53% of the worlds patents being british was actually calculated by the japanese ministry industry in 1996 though i cant find the link currently. shame we are not as good at selling them as we are at inventing them. since this is totally unacceptable to leechvoters and hugely unpopular with those t

From : barry white

i try never to spend what i dont have. one of the secrets of my success has been to always live well below what i could afford certainly never more than 1/2 what my income would allow. i feel im here to secure myself and my families well being not to impress someone else. neither myself or my family has ever been at risk through good times and bad times. i am neither greedy on the making or spending end. i see so many people with so much uncertainty in their life but rather than bank as much of their paycheck as possible to build for a stable future or be poised to take advantage of better times or weather harder times they are driving cars they cant afford and living in houses they can barely make the payments for and then complaining about how too little is left of theor paycheck for the essentials. unfortunately in this case i have no choice. now to see what happens tomorrow sorry i was sort of continuing an earlier rant. i in no way meant to imply that you shouldnt spend money to uphold your principles or convictions. our values and ways must be upheld at all costs. well see how i feel about that tomorrow - good luck to you. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : papa smurf

thats okay im quite comfortable causing thinsg to be made right here. of course by right here i mean in the us. i am not comfortable with massachusetts which is why i am in the process of moving everything to florida. oooh youre trading cold & wet for hot & wet. i always did like the panhandle despite their antediluvian politics florida has the advantage of trying to work with buisiness while mass appears to have been for many years activately try to drive business away and with me and many others they have succeeded i do fear the heat a bit but that is what ac is for. and will be nice to live in a state where the ec doesnt make my presidental vote irrelevant. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

thats okay im quite comfortable causing thinsg to be made right here. of course by right here i mean in the us. i am not comfortable with massachusetts which is why i am in the process of moving everything to florida. oooh youre trading cold & wet for hot & wet. i always did like the panhandle despite their antediluvian politics florida has the advantage of trying to work with buisiness while mass appears to have been for many years activately try to drive business away and with me and many others they have succeeded i do fear the heat a bit but that is what ac is for. and will be nice to live in a state where the ec doesnt make my presidental vote irrelevant. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner after moving west some 30 years ago everything east of the continental divide seems like another world; although i would drop phoenix like a lit match if i could. . 222 262948 lanoa.16280$ha.12962@nwrdny02.gnilink.net papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 222342 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote scrape at mindspring dot com wrote on sun 06 jul 2003 204007 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote forgive my lack of knowledge of us political parties as i am an englishman - i take it the democrats are the very right wing party and the republicans are the even more right wing party nope. youve got it wrong. the democrats are the socialists and the republicans are the liberals. democrats are socialists to be a socialist like tony blair or karl marx you need to believe in state ownership of big business. a command economy. redistribution of wealth. that the struggle between the proletariat and bourgeois is a politcal struggle. state provision of services. it still looks to me as though you have two right wing parties neither of whom would know socialism if it hit them in the face! ;- perhaps you need to look a bit closer. im not familiar with the phrase command economy but everything else you mentioned is dead on what the democrats want. really which industries have the democrats nationalised recently if they were socialists a national health service would be top of their list but they dont ssem to have provided one yet. we run into a little trouble with that one. since largely it is us companies fronting the bill for the r&d that provides cheapers better drugs and procedures for the rest of the world it becomes difficult for us to achieve a leechbased healthcare system without putting at least some of the cost on the non-producers. im afraid thats not true. global trade information services show that the us exported 8695 and imported 14309 gbp millions pharamceuticals in 2002. the uk by comparison exported 10031 and imported 7446. we dont put the costs on the non-producers so why would you need to id be very curious to see how pharameceuticals is defined to make that statistic true. same way the us govt defines it. id also be curious to know how many of said drugs are we originally developed or knockoffs thereof. none are knockoffs the uk is one of the worlds leading pharmaceutical developers not some 3rd world sweat shop copying us drugs. us giant pfizer is the worlds biggest pharmaceutical co. with 7.5% of the world market share. glaxosmithkline in the uk have 7.0% of the world market and none of the other us companies comes close. bear in mind that 53% of the worlds patents are registered to uk individuals or companies and a significant part of that is pharmaceutical. i was completely unaware of this. btw i am very much enjoying our conversation. do you have any links that i could look into this with always like to upgrade the worldview where it is flawed. it is rather enlightening isnt it always. it is nearly impossible to have a nice reasoned political arguement any more. both sides are so charged so pissed so wary of being lead it a trap and neither side really listening that mostly it rapidly breakdowns into ridiculous statements and personal attacks. and im just as guilty as this coming in with as much baggage as i have. its been very pleasent to have a discussion that hasnt hasnt imediately been reduced to the im a dickhead no youre a dickhead. level. agreed - i think party politics is treated a little less seriously here and is all the better for it part of why it is taken seriously here is that it is serious. the differences argued might seem little from your vantage point but for me it means how deeply others are allowed to rip into my pocket and for others its how deeply into the trouth they can dig. since i dislike being robbed it upsets me. since others have been taught not to handle things themselves they live in fear of this support being taken away and are angry at the reality of the situation. so

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

on mon 7 jul 2003 165353 -0700 barry white singingin@theafterlife.com wrote lots of people have been conditioned for years to expect to have things paid for them - medical care food housing child care etc. try telling them they have to start paying their own way. not only will they object ferociously but so will the well meaning liberals. it would be nice if ceos and upper level management got paid what they are worth that doesnt include time playing gold and screwing their secretary. theyre worth what they can get just like anyone else. what they need to be is more accountable to the shareholders. .

From : papa smurf

scrape at mindspring dot com scrape@mindspring.com wrote in message i knew i wasnt doing things right. but then i own the company so i get paid whatever is left glad i dont have to screw alan though.... playing with gold that might be fun for a moment or did you mean playing golf dreadful sport for me dont find it relaxing and way too much sun. given my choice id rather play iwth gold or maybe reevaluate alan yeah its the alzheimers and arthritis should be golf. i am painting with a broad brush but in the larger companies what i said stands.... you know the places where employees are just numbers and not people... yeah that can be a problem. once a company goes public it tends to be all bottom-line and not about the people. owing to the fact that in mass when a company gets over 39 employees the merely ridiculous laws become absolutely ludicrous i have tended to make more compani

From : trisket jr

i cant help you but my 96 ram 5.9l had a problem like that and then it disppeared..my post is at .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

is there many performance parts out there for the 3.9l v6 engine -- andy http//crimespree.ca .

From : barry white

on mon 07 jul 2003 160030 gmt exit exit@nomore.com wrote ahhh i see your definition. in truth nationalisation really involves the creation of a state owned monopoly which would mean for example your govt buying every electricity company in the us lumping them all together and calling it american energy inc or similar. what you describe seems to be simply heavy handed remote control. its phase one of the master plan. out of interest here low earners pay about 22% income tax and the top rate is 40% even for millionaires - and everyone gets an annual tax free allowance of around $8000 before they start paying tax. how does that compare with the us tax system currently low income earners here pay zero income tax. they are subjected to sales tax property tax tobacco tax beer/wine/liquor tax assorted fees etc. that all the rest pay as well. of course if theyre given everything they pay no tax. im smack dab in the middle of middle class and pay around 40% of my wages back in the form of one tax or another. we both believe similar things then but my belief in my fellow englishmen leads me to trust that their self-respect will allow them only to use entitlement as a last resort whereas you seem to think many americans will immediately give up trying if they can get the basics for free. lots of people have been conditioned for years to expect to have things paid for them - medical care food housing child care etc. try telling them they have to start paying their own way. not only will they object ferociously but so will the well meaning liberals. .

From : papa smurf

considering the ram 4x4 quad slt 4.7. however paranoid a bit because had a 1999 ram bought back in full on arbitration because of the infamous spark knock issue. loved the truck hated the knock. was told the hemi contains sensors to detect knocking and adjust the engine accordingly. however i am not getting the hemi now cant afford it but am getting the 4.7. does it also have such preventive measures against knock. also a couple peopel told me getting a 4.7 on ram is a waste engine too small for truck thoughts had a 4.8 in my previous chevy silverado which seemd powerful enough. 4.7 is underpowered for the big truck. it feels like the v-6 in the dakota. i would get the hemi. .

From : barry white

hello i have a 92 3/4 ton with the diesel and automatic. my problem is on hot days when i first start the truck the speedometer doesnt work and the tranny wont shift into over drive. this lasts for 4 to 5 miles and overdrive and the speedo kick in at the same time. any thoughts thanks curtis .

From : barry white

yes if you fix the speedometer problem overdrive will work hello i have a 92 3/4 ton with the diesel and automatic. my problem is on hot days when i first start the truck the speedometer doesnt work and the tranny wont shift into over drive. this lasts for 4 to 5 miles and overdrive and the speedo kick in at the same time. any thoughts thanks curtis .

From : mellowed

i knew i wasnt doing things right. but then i own the company so i get paid whatever is left glad i dont have to screw alan though.... playing with gold that might be fun for a moment or did you mean playing golf dreadful sport for me dont find it relaxing and way too much sun. given my choice id rather play iwth gold or maybe reevaluate alan yeah its the alzheimers and arthritis should be golf. i am painting with a broad brush but in the larger companies what i said stands.... you know the places where employees are just numbers and not people... . 222 262960 3f0a16034@1.prserv.net gees. i cant believe the philosophical discussion you created. this is supposed to be a problem forum i thought. however i also like my v10. signed a mellowed independent. i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve .

From : paul jensen

as a bonus this does tend to keep me more in touch with my workers and able treat them better. of course it helps that my employees are superior people and worthy of all the respect i can lavish on them. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : barry white

taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... is the umemployment rate above 50% i didnt think so. most people have jobs like i said... .

From : papa smurf

i would suspect that the rear bearing is also damaged and needs to be replaced or at a minimum inspected as well. replaced. its damaged no doubt. while i agree that it should be replaced it may be perfectly ok. bullshit. its damaged. if the pinion was wobbling both bearings are trash. im sure you mean pinion gear being out of position right oops my mistake. yes i was talking about the pinion gear being out of position but either way you still need to remove the cover to inspect them. in this case id bet replacement is needed. even if the either gear survived itll likely have a nice whine to the gearset under load no matter how well the backlash is set. i think that you may be confused again. i dont recall ever saying to replace the entire rear really here is the entire post subject re rear diff pinion is loose path lobby!ngtf-m01..aol.com!ngpeer..aol.com!feed1!bredband!-sp ur1.maxwell.syr.edu!.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giga.com!bor der3.nntp.aus1.giga.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giga.com!nntp.giga.c om!nntp.comcast.com!.comcast.com.posted!not-for-mail nntp-posting-date mon 07 jul 2003 114250 -0500 from tbone fatchance@noway.now references xns93b0dffef3553burleighunwiredonlin@216.168.3.44 3f0949ad.691399@1.radix.net xns93b147fed4419burleighunwiredonlin@216.168.3.44 date mon 7 jul 2003 123947 -0400 x-priority 3 x-msmail-priority normal x-reader microsoft outlook express 6.00.2800.1158 x-mimeole produced by microsoft mimeole v6.00.2800.1165 message-id gudnaguafqxppsixtwjka@comcast.com lines 18 nntp-posting-host 68.39.201.15 x-trace sv3-emo1ls4zj1i5plkfcxxnhx2ow2uprvtnq7p0gezbxhwjdxroii0r6gol0mrktxgxitougu 0ugroolgm!osrmhjag1fpnmgzvbyiefm/h1tcpas5dbeywadmfmtcn4/+b8v3zgczkpdpa x-complaints-to abuse@comcast.net x-dmca-complaints-to dmca@comcast.net x-abuse-and-dmca-info please be sure to forward a copy of all headers x-abuse-and-dmca-info otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly x-postfilter 1.1 no. it sounds like the front pinion bearing has failed imagine that and will need to be replaced. the rear should also be replaced when this happens. you will -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving end quote it seems you did say it needed to be replaced. thats not true. the design is tried and true over the years. rebuilt properly that axle will do just fine. but here is yet another failure posted to this group from a truck in the same series and age bracket as mine. seems that there are more failures of this particular rear then you would care to admit to. its not a matter of me admitting anything. again if you think there is a high failure rate i encourage you to find numbers and post them. max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : papa smurf

taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... is the umemployment rate above 50% i didnt think so. most people have jobs like i said... youve said nothing and made no salient point. typical rushbo shill. all ass & gas. however if things keep to their current course under the bush junta we could be looking at a real unemployment rate near 20% by 2004. certainly nothing the washington man-child has done will make things better. voodoo economics from a voodoo president. and about those jobs; real income is equal to about 1979......... gotta love right to work and union busting pubicans did a union get busted. only union related thing i remember at all was bushs bizarre decision to prop up the steel union. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : papa smurf

btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters %%%% is being a degreed professional all that they know or is it all they are willing to do ive pumped gas at a service station and flipped burgers with a degree because the money i was getting was more than i would receive sitting on my ass feeling sorry because i didnt have the job i wanted. i had a family to feed and not the time to sit and whine. i guess that is the way i was brought up to be self reliant and not depend on others. oh i see. pride has no place in the equation. %%%% you cant eat pride and if your family need to be fed you need to swollow it and fiind work. the grocery store cannot tell the difference between a dollar made in the stock market from a dollar from recycling soda cans. would you let your family go hungry because you couldnt find an executive job barry no its what do you do when there are no jobs being self reliant doesnt have a damn thing to do with it. there are 1.7 million people out there who cant find work. wart mart isnt going to offer someone with two degrees a job as a greeter. even if they do try supporting a family on $8 an hour youll love the medical benefits too. this country has been pushing towards a service based economy for over a decade. now were stuck with it. a giant third world country.... and yet funny how those with a true work ethic a sense of self-reliance and self-determinism always seem to make it go right even if its by being the type of person everyone *wants* to help. funny how none of the people that ive ever admired and thats a fairly good sized group have ever been in that 6.4%. sure some have been with out jobs for a bit but they had planned ahead to be able to get by and quickly found or created work becuase they are people that solve problems themselves. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : barry white

taken a look at the unemployment stats lately i didnt think so..... is the umemployment rate above 50% i didnt think so. most people have jobs like i said... youve said nothing and made no salient point. typical rushbo shill. all ass & gas. however if things keep to their current course under the bush junta we could be looking at a real unemployment rate near 20% by 2004. certainly nothing the washington man-child has done will make things better. voodoo economics from a voodoo president. and about those jobs; real income is equal to about 1979......... gotta love right to work and union busting pubicans did a union get busted. only union related thing i remember at all was bushs bizarre decision to prop up the steel union. the pubicans have been union busting since death valley daze raygun busted patco .

From : barry white

no its what do you do when there are no jobs being self reliant doesnt have a damn thing to do with it. there are 1.7 million people out there who cant find work. wart mart isnt going to offer someone with two degrees a job as a greeter. even if they do try supporting a family on $8 an hour youll love the medical benefits too. this country has been pushing towards a service based economy for over a decade. now were stuck with it. a giant third world country.... and yet funny how those with a true work ethic a sense of self-reliance and self-determinism always seem to make it go right even if its by being the type of person everyone *wants* to help. funny how none of the people that ive ever admired and thats a fairly good sized group have ever been in that 6.4%. sure some have been with out jobs for a bit but they had planned ahead to be able to get by and quickly found or created work becuase they are people that solve problems themselves. not only do i know people who have been part of that 6.4% more about that in a minute but i also know people who have lost their businesses because people arent buying things any more. the local wart mart target k-mart folded and others have noticeably less traffic. dont forget last xmas season was the worst in i forget how many years. the actual unemployment rate was around 10%; since this latest increase it has gone up for sure. the exact amount i have not seen yet. by actual or real that counts all people who are not counted in the 6.4%; the government naturally wants to soft peddle how bad things really are. http//www.freep.com/money/business/jobs3020030530.htm http//www.jobbankusa.com//unemployment/unemploy61503b.html http//www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/columnists/5962629.htm http//www.daytondefender.com/money.htm http//seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stephendunphy/135118779dunphy29.html i can excuse the right-wing butt gas from people here who say that people who have been out of work that long are lazy. thats exactly what it is butt gas. sure someone wants to trade in a $45000 job for $200 a week. that makes a hell of a lot of sense. but when white trash like don nickles chuck grassley or other pubican hacks all of whom havent put in a weeks worth of work in their life mouth this same b.s. then i say its time for that revolution that the founding fathers said we were obligated to have you know where when according to the f.f. our government becomes unresponsive then its time to tear it down and build a new one. i have a chain saw and lots of guns. when can we start .

From : david l moffitt

btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters %%%% is being a degreed professional all that they know or is it all they are willing to do ive pumped gas at a service station and flipped burgers with a degree because the money i was getting was more than i would receive sitting on my ass feeling sorry because i didnt have the job i wanted. i had a family to feed and not the time to sit and whine. i guess that is the way i was brought up to be self reliant and not depend on others. oh i see. pride has no place in the equation. %%%% you cant eat pride and if your family need to be fed you need to swollow it and fiind work. the grocery store cannot tell the difference between a dollar made in the stock market from a dollar from recycling soda cans. would you let your family go hungry because you couldnt find an executive job barry no its what do you do when there are no jobs being self reliant doesnt have a damn thing to do with it. there are 1.7 million people out there who cant find work. wart mart isnt going to offer someone with two degrees a job as a greeter. even if they do try supporting a family on $8 an hour youll love the medical benefits too. this country has been pushing towards a service based economy for over a decade. now were stuck with it. a giant third world country.... and yet funny how those with a true work ethic a sense of self-reliance and self-determinism always seem to make it go right even if its by being the type of person everyone *wants* to help. funny how none of the people that ive ever admired and thats a fairly good sized group have ever been in that 6.4%. sure some have been with out jobs for a bit but they had planned ahead to be able to get by and quickly found or created work becuase they are people that solve problems themselves. %%%% they have no concept of what being self reliant is. i have 6 months of food stored and 6 months of money to pay bills set aside for any hard times of mine or close family members. if it even snows hard and the roads are blocked i dont need to go to the store for anything for a long time. -- democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner .

From : jim j

perhaps you should look at the ngs that this was posted to. you would see that it is nothing more then an attempt at cross-posted spam but the conversation has become interesting. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving gees. i cant believe the philosophical discussion you created. this is supposed to be a problem forum i thought. however i also like my v10. signed a mellowed independent. i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve .

From : mellowed

educatedrepublican@yahoo.com educated republican wrote in 616e1c.0307060659.1bc69c85@posting.google.com i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve given the posters alias and the general tone of the post i have just one word troll! .

From : tbone

i would suspect that the rear bearing is also damaged and needs to be replaced or at a minimum inspected as well. replaced. its damaged no doubt. while i agree that it should be replaced it may be perfectly ok. bullshit. its damaged. if the pinion was wobbling both bearings are trash. got proof if the front bearing fails the pinion will wobble regardless of the condition of the rear bearing yes it should be replaced but it may be just fine and you will never know it until it is removed and inspected. im sure you mean pinion gear being out of position right oops my mistake. yes i was talking about the pinion gear being out of position but either way you still need to remove the cover to inspect them. in this case id bet replacement is needed. even if the either gear survived itll likely have a nice whine to the gearset under load no matter how well the backlash is set. you really are paranoid. you must cost your customers a fortune replacing perfectly good parts. what is the either gear anyway since they are a matched set if one of them has been damaged they must be replaced as a set anyway and in that case the rear pinion bearing would be replaced as well. a simple cleaning and a contact pattern test will determine the condition of the gears if there is no obvious damage to them and if the contact pattern looks good they will be quiet and save him over $100.00 especially if he intends to attempt the repair himself. i think that you may be confused again. i dont recall ever saying to replace the entire rear really here is the entire post subject re rear diff pinion is loose no. it sounds like the front pinion bearing has failed imagine that and will need to be replaced. the rear should also be replaced when this happens. you will -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving end quote lol it this the level of desperation that you have sunk to are you so desperate that you need to use an incomplete post taken completely out of context to make your lame point or is it just that your reading comprehension is that poor did you buy those two degrees that you claim to have but yet are afraid to state what they are in why would i say to replace the front bearing and then the entire rear i was referring to the rear bearing and i think that you know that or else you are dumber than i thought. if i didnt screw up and post it before it was even completed i would have made that sentence clear enough for even you to understand. it seems you did say it needed to be replaced. thats not true. the design is tried and true over the years. rebuilt properly that axle will do just fine. i have already stated that the axle is a well designed unit but no matter how good the design it will only be as durable as its weakest part. it seems that chrysler decided that it needed to cut costs and went with some lower cost bearings and as a result a good rear went bad. but here is yet another failure posted to this group from a truck in the same series and age bracket as mine. seems that there are more failures of this particular rear then you would care to admit to. its not a matter of me admitting anything. again if you think there is a high failure rate i encourage you to find numbers and post them. i was told that by a dealer and i see a high number of posts in here referring to bearing failures in that rear. far more then i see happening in the dana rears used in the 2500 and 3500 series. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : barry white

does any produce after market steering shaft for the older dodge four wheel drive pickups my shaft is in pretty bad shape. i ordered a new coupler kit from dodge but the end of the shaft and the coupler is pretty beat. does any body recondition these shafts i want to put some type of lift on the truck. what happens to the steering shaft if it is a body lift any help would be appreciated aarcuda .

From : barry white

btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters %%%% is being a degreed professional all that they know or is it all they are willing to do ive pumped gas at a service station and flipped burgers with a degree because the money i was getting was more than i would receive sitting on my ass feeling sorry because i didnt have the job i wanted. i had a family to feed and not the time to sit and whine. i guess that is the way i was brought up to be self reliant and not depend on others. oh i see. pride has no place in the equation. %%%% you cant eat pride and if your family need to be fed you need to swollow it and fiind work. the grocery store cannot tell the difference between a dollar made in the stock market from a dollar from recycling soda cans. would you let your family go hungry because you couldnt find an executive job barry no its what do you do when there are no jobs being self reliant doesnt have a damn thing to do with it. there are 1.7 million people out there who cant find work. wart mart isnt going to offer someone with two degrees a job as a greeter. even if they do try supporting a family on $8 an hour youll love the medical benefits too. %%%% $8 an hour is more money than $0. you must be one of those people without any skills. i have many to keep me employed from pumping gas farming welding carpenter to medicine with a few odd skills pitched in. this country has been pushing towards a service based economy for over a decade. now were stuck with it. a giant third world country.... %%%% im not stuck with it---you are. i havent been out of work in 30+ years. congratulations. your understanding and compassion is remarkable. the fact is you are stuck with it as well unless you live in another country. this country is sliding downhill. wages benefits & overall quality of life are sliding downward. if you think that does not affect you then kindly remove the blinders. .

From : david l moffitt

btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters %%%% is being a degreed professional all that they know or is it all they are willing to do ive pumped gas at a service station and flipped burgers with a degree because the money i was getting was more than i would receive sitting on my ass feeling sorry because i didnt have the job i wanted. i had a family to feed and not the time to sit and whine. i guess that is the way i was brought up to be self reliant and not depend on others. oh i see. pride has no place in the equation. %%%% you cant eat pride and if your family need to be fed you need to swollow it and fiind work. the grocery store cannot tell the difference between a dollar made in the stock market from a dollar from recycling soda cans. would you let your family go hungry because you couldnt find an executive job barry no its what do you do when there are no jobs being self reliant doesnt have a damn thing to do with it. there are 1.7 million people out there who cant find work. wart mart isnt going to offer someone with two degrees a job as a greeter. even if they do try supporting a family on $8 an hour youll love the medical benefits too. this country has been pushing towards a service based economy for over a decade. now were stuck with it. a giant third world country.... and yet funny how those with a true work ethic a sense of self-reliance and self-determinism always seem to make it go right even if its by being the type of person everyone *wants* to help. funny how none of the people that ive ever admired and thats a fairly good sized group have ever been in that 6.4%. sure some have been with out jobs for a bit but they had planned ahead to be able to get by and quickly found or created work becuase they are people that solve problems themselves. %%%% they have no concept of what being self reliant is. i have 6 months of food stored and 6 months of money to pay bills set aside for any hard times of mine or close family members. if it even snows hard and the roads are blocked i dont need to go to the store for anything for a long time. what a crock. and what do you do on the seventh month ask your gawd for loaves of bread .

From : tbone

i know a guy who can use bondo or filler to patch up a dent. its a heck of a lot cheaper than having new skins put on a dent in the door and on another small panel. is this worth it will the bondo or filler last bondo is used most effectively to cover minor imperfections with actual body work. trowling it into a large dent will usually result in cracking and failing in a short period of time. if the dent is small enough the body filler will work just fine but if the dent is large bang it out first. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

i have to disagree with consumer reports. they have a bias towards all japanese vehicles. they rarely rate an american vehicle as a recommendtion. i test drove a base tundra eight foot bed 2 door with a six cylinder. it had more noise a bouncier ride less interior room and worse gas mileage hard to believe than the dodge ram 1500 4.7. i decided to go with a real truck and went for the dodge. so far ive been happy. with 3800 miles it has been one of the best cars ive owned it averages about 14.85 mpg with a max of 17.85. i decided that the mileage was pitiful on all trucks including the six cylinder s-10 ranger etc. it sounds enough like a v-8 to let you know its there but then quiets down for cruising. i do agree that the back end does tend to go sideways if you hit a large bump or pothole. i dont know what they mean about hard to read gauges. i find the white guages very easy to read. ive lost most respect for consumer reports when it comes to vehicle rating. i know if its american they hate it and japanese they love it. this is because japanese cars and trucks are just better. as much as it pains me to admit it it is true. look at the latest jd power long term report. now good is that american cars are getting better than the european ones. so there is still hope. http//money.cnn.com/2003/07/08/pf/autos/bc.autos.durability/index.htmcnn=yes .

From : david l moffitt

btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters %%%% is being a degreed professional all that they know or is it all they are willing to do ive pumped gas at a service station and flipped burgers with a degree because the money i was getting was more than i would receive sitting on my ass feeling sorry because i didnt have the job i wanted. i had a family to feed and not the time to sit and whine. i guess that is the way i was brought up to be self reliant and not depend on others. oh i see. pride has no place in the equation. %%%% you cant eat pride and if your family need to be fed you need to swollow it and fiind work. the grocery store cannot tell the difference between a dollar made in the stock market from a dollar from recycling soda cans. would you let your family go hungry because you couldnt find an executive job barry no its what do you do when there are no jobs being self reliant doesnt have a damn thing to do with it. there are 1.7 million people out there who cant find work. wart mart isnt going to offer someone with two degrees a job as a greeter. even if they do try supporting a family on $8 an hour youll love the medical benefits too. %%%% $8 an hour is more money than $0. you must be one of those people without any skills. i have many to keep me employed from pumping gas farming welding carpenter to medicine with a few odd skills pitched in. this country has been pushing towards a service based economy for over a decade. now were stuck with it. a giant third world country.... %%%% im not stuck with it---you are. i havent been out of work in 30+ years. congratulations. your understanding and compassion is remarkable. the fact is you are stuck with it as well unless you live in another country. this country is sliding downhill. wages benefits & overall quality of life are sliding downward. if you think that does not affect you then kindly remove the blinders. %%%% it is not effecting me or even my children who each have multiple skills. my quality of life continues to improve each year. my income steadily increases yearly but i must admit i had a bad year in 2002 and it only increased $10000. maybe you need to find a different vocation and/or new skills to survive with. as far as my compassion goes i do extensive community service including being a boy scouts advisor and former leader and red cross disaster relief worker. your community service is .

From : barry white

come on max... its pretty obvious he was referencing the rear pinion bearing - not the entire rear-end. front pinion bearing should be replaced... the rear should be replaced as well. if an individual is gonna be picky about what others say he should also be picky about what he says. funny part is on the next post he is claiming the rear pinion bearing might be ok. so either way rear or rear pinion bearing in one post he claims one thing in the next he claims the opposite. always fun to poke a sleeping dog to see if hell lie. max spam filters why purify an undesired substance .

From : barry white

on tue 8 jul 2003 110533 -0700 barry white singingin@theafterlife.com wrote congratulations. your understanding and compassion is remarkable. the fact is you are stuck with it as well unless you live in another country. this country is sliding downhill. wages benefits & overall quality of life are sliding downward. if you think that does not affect you then kindly remove the blinders. perhaps hes just tired of hearing about it. personally im making more than i ever have my benefits are better than theyve ever been and other than not being able to hit the powerball lottery i dont have any complaints about my quality of life. damndest thing is - i havent heard a single individual indicate that they think life is sliding downward. that is except for the occasional unfortunate person on usenet who has lost his job and likes to complain about how bad everything is. i feel sorry for you but your situation does not describe the other 95% or whatever that have not lost their job. first i did not say i lost my job. second we have only your word that you are rolling in dough. that word can not be verified. third its a bit less than 95% who have not lost their job. fourth no matter what rushbo says wages benefits etc are down. now chimpy is going after overtime with comp time. americans work harder and longer for less than the next 5 or 6 major industrialized nations. if youre tired of hearing about it then i suggest you continue to watch faux or cnn. they rarely speak of anything except cheerleading for the current junta. .

From : barry white

on tue 8 jul 2003 110634 -0700 barry white singingin@theafterlife.com wrote %%%% they have no concept of what being self reliant is. i have 6 months of food stored and 6 months of money to pay bills set aside for any hard times of mine or close family members. if it even snows hard and the roads are blocked i dont need to go to the store for anything for a long time. what a crock. and what do you do on the seventh month ask your gawd for loaves of bread his method seems to be working better than yours. you are blowing smoke out your ass. you have no idea about my lifestyle or anyone else who posts on usenet. be gone you worthless troll........ .

From : barry white

on tue 8 jul 2003 110634 -0700 barry white singingin@theafterlife.com wrote %%%% they have no concept of what being self reliant is. i have 6 months of food stored and 6 months of money to pay bills set aside for any hard times of mine or close family members. if it even snows hard and the roads are blocked i dont need to go to the store for anything for a long time. what a crock. and what do you do on the seventh month ask your gawd for loaves of bread his method seems to be working better than yours. %%%% he is one of those that will just sit on his ass and just whimper!!! o oh and another pompous asshole pecks out his tortured thoughts...... .

From : barry white

the blinders. %%%% it is not effecting me or even my children who each have multiple skills. my quality of life continues to improve each year. my income steadily increases yearly but i must admit i had a bad year in 2002 and it only increased $10000. maybe you need to find a different vocation and/or new skills to survive with. as far as my compassion goes i do extensive community service including being a boy scouts advisor and former leader and red cross disaster relief worker. your community service is shooting republicans. care to step into my sights .

From : scrape at mindspring dot com

on tue 8 jul 2003 160737 -0700 barry white singingin@theafterlife.com wrote on tue 8 jul 2003 110533 -0700 barry white singingin@theafterlife.com wrote congratulations. your understanding and compassion is remarkable. the fact is you are stuck with it as well unless you live in another country. this country is sliding downhill. wages benefits & overall quality of life are sliding downward. if you think that does not affect you then kindly remove the blinders. perhaps hes just tired of hearing about it. personally im making more than i ever have my benefits are better than theyve ever been and other than not being able to hit the powerball lottery i dont have any complaints about my quality of life. damndest thing is - i havent heard a single individual indicate that they think life is sliding downward. that is except for the occasional unfortunate person on usenet who has lost his job and likes to complain about how bad everything is. i feel sorry for you but your situation does not describe the other 95% or whatever that have not lost their job. first i did not say i lost my job. second we have only your word that you are rolling in dough. that word can not be verified. third its a bit less than 95% who have not lost their job. fourth no matter what rushbo says wages benefits etc are down. now chimpy is going after overtime with comp time. americans work harder and longer for less than the next 5 or 6 major industrialized nations. if youre tired of hearing about it then i suggest you continue to watch faux or cnn. they rarely speak of anything except cheerleading for the current junta. first we only have your word that you havent lost your job. secondly im personally tired of your doom and gloom shit. you reap what you sow and other hackneyed cliches apply. .

From : exit

yes but swap the heads so you get the bigger valves too. budd james edmonds wrote will a 1985 4-barrel intake from a 360 v-8 fit a 1976 318 v-8 tia .

From : Annonymous

bitch to remove if the bearing and its race looked ok and the ring and pinion also looked good on my axle i may just replace the front bearing seal and crush sleeve and leave the rest alone. that reduces the job to about an hour as compared to all day. huh it takes about 30 seconds to remove the rear pinion bearing since you have to remove the pinion anyway to remove the front pinion bearing and another 30 seconds to press a new one on. or are you under the impression that you can simply remove the pinion nut yoke seal and pull the front bearing out with your fingers lol if you could pull the bearing race out with your fingers then you really would need a whole new rear. the rear pinion bearing has a direct effect on the pinion depth so if you replace it you will then need to go through the fun of replacing the shims and setting the pinion depth all over again and that takes time. the front pinion bearing has no effect on the pinion depth so if the pinion ring and rear pinion bearing look good you can just replace the front bearing and put it back together without the fun of resetting the pinion depth. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jim j

check your fuses. carl our windows have stopped working on the durango. the drivers window rolls down but all the others wont. i called the local shop and they want to keep it for a few days and check it out. it could be a fuse or electrical problem. i was wondering if anybody had this same problem and fixed it themselves. if so what did you do and was it a simple thing or did you have to tear the door apart i really dont want to give up my durango for a few days if its a simple thing to fix. thanks. .

From : jim j

on 10 jul 2003 013732 gmt pigbruce@aol.com pig bruce wrote i have a 1973 dodge motorhome with a 413 cu in v8. the problem is that it is unreliable. it always starts easily when the engine is cold. when you drive it for 15 minutes up to an hour it just quits running. if you wait 10 minutes it will restart and run again for the same length of time. if you remove the air cleaner and look in the carb it is getting plenty of gas. if you remove a spark plug wire it is getting plenty of spark. i bought a new holley 4 barrel carb. i bought a new electric fuel pump.i bought 2 new ignition modules. i replaced the magnetic timer in the distributor. new cap and rotor new coil twice. new aluminum fuel tank and fuel lines. new ballast resistor. i moved the coil to the outside of the engine compartment. i have talked to many mechanics and they said i have done what they would have. i bought this motorhome 6 months ago so i could take my kids camping2 boys 12 and 16 years old but time is running out. please help! bruce bolton ft myers fla 239 693 2756 please dont take this wrong but stop swapping parts and get the thing to a reliable mechanic... its cheaper than what youre doing and much less stress... .

From : david l moffitt

brettpowell@sbcglobal.net wrote in gxoa.496$i73.63319082@svr14..prodigy.com no fool move! do not bother arguing with this creature guys he is a socialist which = a thief who uses other peoples guns to steal your money and give it to those he decides deserve it! youre absolutely right about that. thats absolutely the best most accurate definition of a socialist that ive seen. and like any other liberal when confronted with the facts he resorts to ad hominem remarks lacking as his ideology is for substantive reasoned replies. .

From : barry white

you sure are setting your sights high. i think chimpyboy should be flipping the burgers. its closer to his skill level. of course hed have to compete with all those teenagers looking for work so his chances would not be good. getting an education doesnt mean shit if your company moves to taiwan. %%%% yes it does. you need to be able to do more than just glue widgets together or run a column of figures. oh tell that to the thousands of degreed professionals who are now jobless. is absolute zero the temperature of your heart btw we dont have any widget jobs anymore; just wart mart greeters %%%% a degreed walmart greeter is bringing in more money to feed his children than someone sitting on their ass whining and feeling sorry for theirself! i am a compassionate person but it can be measured at time for those practicing stupidity and whining. .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote alvinj@xx.com wrote liberals over here are happy to be called liberals because it means someone who treads a sensible middle line and believes in others freedoms and rights. thats what it meant here too back around 1900 after the women got to vote it changed! then it turned into helping you out whether you wanted help or not. well someone has to pay for private healthcare too - you might pay your hmo all your life and never get sick. instead of helping someone who is ill you simply line the shareholders pockets. julian. nope. / they go belly up all the time the share holders get screwed. too bad tho since they were the ones that laid their money on the line. but what i want to hear from you is just exactly what is the matter with profit / absolutely nothing i rely on it for my income! did you ever think for a moment that the profit comes from careful management the profit is nothing more than pocketing what would otherwise be wasted by the system especially if it were ran by bureaucrats didnt the collapse of the ussr teach you anything yes - i am an entrepreneur by trade i was merely pointing out that there are circumstances where profit can be better employed than in dividends. the collapse of the ussr taught me that the free market economy that has flourished in the uk for over 3000 years and recently copied by certain north american colonies works splendidly well. you had me fooled but not anymore you are no longer a conservative in my eyes. / but then i shouldnt be surprized i knew an english uofa student that claimed to be liberatarian that was socialist as anything. he constantly argued to the contrary too. we were on a liberatarian-list together and when showing up for meetings would always start and maintain a fight. well what can you expect from a student i shouldnt think it takes much to fool you but this time you are fooling yourself. i think he was really a -libertine- that wanted govt/tax payers to provide for him. he was extra good with the english language like you are too bad he didnt understand the difference between libertine and libertarian. i provide employment for others in my business - i have only ever provided for myself. your blind assumptions weaken your argument such as it is. and i apologise fur all thar fancy book-lurnin words. i understand the oed difference between those words but not your north american political dogma version of them. being a libertarian i really like foreiners fur-ners; but that was one i was glad went back home. furners -usually- show up here looking for -freedom- and opportunity and that is so cool! alvin in az how can i be foreign you are the colonist speaking someone elses language whilst occupying someone elses land by force. . . . . . . ;- but seriously - if you want to see queues of tens of thousands of immigrants seeking a better life just come to britain - we are over-run with them no longer from the empire but now from eastern europe and the middle east. there are more iraqis in london than baghdad and one of saddams sisters lives 10 miles from me. really! now thats a free country for you! so you are saying its a lot like michigan sorry had to but in. loved your response and that made me realize another thing i enjoyed in our conversation. i didnt feel i had to dumb-down my vocabulary which was a refreshing change from most posts. there appear to be a lot of people who use english incorrectly and are proud of the fact - odd! i speak and write the queens english they way i was taught and of course correct english and correct american english are very similar! -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : exit

papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote papa smurf wrote we both believe similar things then but my belief in my fellow englishmen leads me to trust that their self-respect will allow them only to use entitlement as a last resort whereas you seem to think many americans will immediately give up trying if they can get the basics for free. forty years of experience has shown me that it works that way here. the more that is given the more they not only want but they more that they feel they deserve. pick a random person around my parts and on one hand they are proudly milking the system for what its worth and decrying the rich as selfish greedy and not paying their fair share. its both insane and maddening. of cpurse it doesnt help that the entitlements here are designed to make you more dependant. for instance unemployment discourages working by making it largely an all or nothing deal. you cant work a little and build your way up with slowly reduced benefits because that would lead too many people off the roles and not dependant on the government. the system wants to be milked. i certainly wouldnt criticise what is clearly your experience perhaps i am too much the optimist. the unemployed here get what is called job seekers allowance which is only paid if you can prove you are actively seeking a job and not excluding any offers unreasonably. it seems pretty effective along with our reasonably robust economy keeping unemployment down to 5%. oops hit reply prematurely. technically they have to looking for work but the enforcement on this comes and goes depending on who is in power. and they only have to looking within their speciality. our unemployment has reached the 10 year high of 6.4% which has caused almost orgiastic joy amoungst the press and anti-conservatives. bit less fussy here - you get a little time to find your preferred line of work if not its whatever pays the bills. and perhaps your countrymen give you reason to be more optimistic. ours is ladden with a growing number of social leeches. it should be pointed out by me that this country still has a strong backbone of incredible hard-working caring ethiced people as well. i think the values held by most britons of a strong work ethic and belief in self responsibility are also common in the americans i meet. but then you only meet the ones that have gotten it together enough to travel not the group that hangs out behind the 7-11 each night. very true but i still hang on to my prejudice that at heart the american majority are worthy people who share most of the aims and beliefs that are prevalent throughout our common history. -- i cant disagree with that. america is filled with great people but i am cynical that each generation is less so. my own children were partially home schooled and partially schooled in canada as their mother refused to allow them into the american public school system and made a thorough and incontrivertable case for that opinion. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : prowler99

todd.roat@uc.edu todd w. roat wrote in you have to take consumer reports with a grain of salt but at the same time you cant compeltely ignore it. why not consumers union has been in love with small underpowered foriegn vehicles for over 30 years. why should they be expected to approve of a vehicle that outweighs their ideal vehicle is twice its size and doesnt get at least 35 mpg i tend to view their reviews the same way that i do those of book and movie critics if cu hates it its worth a closer look. as it is i usually only see an issue of their publication once a decade or so most often at a dentists office. i repeat my question why not. .

From : dr zachary smith

i am having the exact same problem with my 98 ram. i used the gauges and it shows that there is pressure. when the ac kicks on the gauge drops way down and then the clutch kicks off and the pressure goes back up. i cant figure out the problem. any help oh please it is so hot in socal. patrick usually when the clutch cycles quickly it is a sign the system is low on freon. did you actually have a set of gauges on the high and low side to check the pressures if the pressures are ok and the clutch kicks out quickly you may have a pressure switch going bad. denny a question for the group re a/c; vehicle is a 99 1500 qc w/ 5.9 the a/c stopped blowing cold. line pressure measures ok. the only visual symptom i can see is the a/c compressor clutch cycles on then off very rapidly when the a/c is switched to max a/c. thinking it was the relay i swapped that out but the rapid on/off cycling continues any suggestions before i go to dealer and bend over tia doug .

From : david l moffitt

dault@removeattbi.com wrote in on thu 10 jul 2003 162942 -0700 miles unknown@unlisted.com wrote dc didnt have anything to do with your problems. the dealers played their games they have for decades and they drew you in. you bought a truck you really didnt want. that is your fault. next time you want to buy a vehicle find a car broker. they typically work in offices offsite from a dealership but do work for them. their normal business is fleet sales but they can sell a single vehicle to anyone. they have a set markup fee above invoice usually $200-$400. they will find you the vehicle you want no matter where it may be. your right dc has nothing to do with this but they allow dealers like this to work for them. yes they work for dc and can lose their right to sell dc products anytime. the best local dealer had its license to sell dc cars about 3 years ago. the dealer is my only contact with dc and is what shapes my outlook of their products. with all the 2003 models all ready out at the dealers i had to choose from what was already made. the truck was what i wanted but just not with the tow package. both dealers and myself searched every dealer within 200 miles with no luck they would not travel farther. dc has brushed off all contact about this and in fact i have not heard anything from them since buying the truck. i have a friend who bought a ford truck and has received letters free product nothing big and contact from the dealer. the extra $500 trade-in was offered by both dealer and withdrawn on july 1st. dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail bottom line caveat emptor. if you dont go into a dealer with the price youre willing to pay and stick to it then youre going to get suckered. do you homework figure out what youll pay for a specific truck with the options you want and offer the dealer a fair price. if they balk say no or give you shit walk out. if a dealer is unwilling to show you the real invoice immediately walk out. glittering generality invoice + a few hundred is more than fair for any vehicle from any dealer. if they dont want to do that then theyre ripping you off. btw factory rebates and/or financing is above and beyond the price. research the vehicle with your options and go in armed with the facts. hth. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies .

From : buddy ebsen

on thu 10 jul 2003 162942 -0700 miles unknown@unlisted.com wrote dc didnt have anything to do with your problems. the dealers played their games they have for decades and they drew you in. you bought a truck you really didnt want. that is your fault. next time you want to buy a vehicle find a car broker. they typically work in offices offsite from a dealership but do work for them. their normal business is fleet sales but they can sell a single vehicle to anyone. they have a set markup fee above invoice usually $200-$400. they will find you the vehicle you want no matter where it may be. your right dc has nothing to do with this but they allow dealers like this to work for them. yes they work for dc and can lose their right to sell dc products anytime. the best local dealer had its license to sell dc cars about 3 years ago. the dealer is my only contact with dc and is what shapes my outlook of their products. with all the 2003 models all ready out at the dealers i had to choose from what was already made. the truck was what i wanted but just not with the tow package. both dealers and myself searched every dealer within 200 miles with no luck they would not travel farther. dc has brushed off all contact about this and in fact i have not heard anything from them since buying the truck. i have a friend who bought a ford truck and has received letters free product nothing big and contact from the dealer. the extra $500 trade-in was offered by both dealer and withdrawn on july 1st. dault@spamattbi.com remove spam for e-mail you really should do some research about these kinds of tactics they got these things from horse traders thats how old they are. imho the very first thing to understand is that salesmen know nothing about vehicles theyre simply commodities to be moved so they can get paid. you have to know what you want and accept no less. window stickers are relatively recent began after wwii when congress threatened to get involved in their schemes and they may have dont recall for certain right now they may be mandated. look up dobbs brothers out of memphis tn. they took stunts to new heights like throwing the keys to your trade-in up on the roof of the dealer so you couldnt leave. your beef is with the dealer not the manufacturer. you werent prepared you did almost no research and were ripe for the sharks im sure they found you quite enjoyable. btdt and learned the hard way. check our www.fool.com before you buy another vehicle lots of good tips and some not so good ones as well there. .

From : exit

03 ram reg. cab slt w/ the 4.7 here. almost 6k miles. no problems. perfect so far. if it aint toyota cr doesnt like it. madigan wrote i am considering buying a 2003 hemi ram giving dodge and america one more chance but am understandably vervous. any idea whether they cured the spark knock presumably a result of truck mnaufacturers trying to balance the emissions and emission regulations also what are the common known issues with the 2003s. i nderstand all manufacturers have issues every year just want to read up on them in advance to decide. thanks todd go check messageboards at http//www.dodgetalk.com and http//www.dodgetrucks.org. a lot of 03 ram owners have had problems with brake rotors going bad between 6000 and 9000 miles and door seals wearing out. no major problems reported with 5.7l hemi engine as yet. hth. .

From : david l moffitt

abs+brake light == rear abs sensor rear axle speed sensor etc. cost me about $30 but i have a 9.25. yours will probably cost more js hi i have a 96 cummins diesel manual tranny truck and recently the cruise control began to refuse to engage though it turns on the abs light comes on and the ebrake light comes on. the abs and ebrake lights sometimes stay off for a while after starting up 1-10minutes but the cruise always refuses to engage. the vacuum is good and the brake pedal switch is good and properly adjusted. what else could this be thanks dburton97128@yahoo.com .

From : cc

david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i know uniformity takes away individuality but isnt it individuals with independent thought that create and discover the soviet union and other communist states tried the mass mentality idea and look what it got them. %%%% that opinion was posted by a well known lib/dem and as we all know they want socialism to control our lives and country. you guys kill me! complete inability to spot an oxymoronic comment! you must be a salemans dream! %%%% sorry but your propaqganda didnt work. socialist like you just want to make us thoughtless drones for the state. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : dr zachary smith

tim im also driving an 03 3500 and somehow we dont seem to have similar trucks. comments inserted tim miser timmiserno@spmyahoo.com wrote in snip i dont understand why their predicted reliability is poor while the reliability history has shown incredible improvement and was excellent in 02. i agree that the seat comfort is average but the ride quality is poor instead of below average in my opinion. the ride quality on a bumpy freeway is horrendous and i really would expect dodge to fix that for the 2004 model. in fact i would say that is the only thing that needs fixing. are you sure that you have your tires inflated properly mine has a firm but quite good ride. yes they are. we have a stretch of i-5 near seattle that has a bump in the expansion joints about every 10 which causes the poor ride. if youve only driven on good to normal roads you wouldnt know the problem exists but on poor freeways its there and its bad. my other trucks on the same stretch of freeway never had this issue. the front seat is fine for medium and short trips but for 6 hour and longer trips it is uncomfortable. both my wife and i enjoy long 10-14 hour trips because of the comfort and support of the 8-way power heated seats. no question your mileage may vary. ive got the 8-way too and am always tweaking it to see if i can find a magical sweet spot. hey ram^3 do you have any complaints about your truck so far i really am happy with mine and with about 12000 miles on it so far im still waiting for one of those little issues that might need some warranty attention. ive never had any new vehicle go this long without something rearing its ugly face. ; -tim .

From : cc

jesus i was just being sarcastic! you mean its true then again nothing is made here anymore nothing! its sickening! and do you know why a whole lot less is made in america nowadays the manufacturing base has been exported overseas .

From : hawk

my best advice this coming from a guy who bought and still have a 78 chysler cordoba get rid of that problem chysler product dont do as i did!!!!!!!!!!! ronm c. e. white wrote for six months i have been trying to help my so fix her mini-van. the mini-van is a 1998 plymouth grand voyager 3.0l v-6 automatic with around 128000 miles. several months back her check engine light illuminated however the car ran ok and the mileage seemed normal. round one - local dodge dealer performed a tune up. mostly new new plugs. light stayed out for a few days. round two - local western auto replaced plugs and wires. light stayed out for a few days. round three - western auto again - replaced plugs again. light was out for a few days. round four - yours truly - used ignition switch method to trigger code read out. got code 43. checked coil resistance compared to manual decided it was not quite right so i replaced it. disconnected battery and the light stayed out for almost a week. round five - used code reader and got p0300 and p0305 codes random misfire and misfire on #5 cylinder. checked plugs they looked fine. i decided that maybe the plug wire was not on correctly. reset light. the light stayed out for almost a week. round six - same codes as before. replaced wires and #5 plug. reset light. stayed out for a couple of days. round seven - same codes as before plus p0306. decided problem might be leaking intake manifold gaskets so i replaced them. reset the light and it stayed out for about three days. round eight - p0300 and p0305 codes again. in desperation i replaced plug #5 with another brand ngk and replaced the o2 sensor with a genuine chrysler part. light stayed out for 3 days but the vehicle did not complete the obdii driving cycle. round nine - dodge dealer again. same codes. dealer performs compression test and says the compression is fine. performs a leak down test and says based on this test the engine is shot and should be replaced - for $4000. round ten - help! $4000 is a lot to but into this van. it is only worth around $4500 in good condition. i am suspicious of the diagnosis that the van needs a new engine. it runs ok. not perfect but no oil usage no smoke idle is little rough but runs smooth at speed. p0305 code usually shows up with a couple of days after resetting the computer. i have certainly driven vehicles that run worse. if i leave the code reader connected to the engine i never see the mis-fire condition. the problem is almost always the same p0300 along with p0305. once p0306 was also found but this was a typical. not fixing the problem is not an option since this is an obdii inspection area. i am willing to try miracle cures...... regards ed white .

From : exit

david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i know uniformity takes away individuality but isnt it individuals with independent thought that create and discover the soviet union and other communist states tried the mass mentality idea and look what it got them. %%%% that opinion was posted by a well known lib/dem and as we all know they want socialism to control our lives and country. you guys kill me! complete inability to spot an oxymoronic comment! you must be a salemans dream! %%%% sorry but your propaqganda didnt work. socialist like you just want to make us thoughtless drones for the state. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . hahaha - socialist! you guys get dumber and dumber! so dumb you cant even tell when you are being made fun of! you respond just like a pre-programmed drone incapable of independent thought! %%%% spoke the socialist drone. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : cc

yo dude... im there for you! just let me know when and where you are going to throw them nasty old michelin tires out and i will take care of them. think they will fit my truck just fine! i will even trade you my generals with road hazard straight up! dont blame the tire caus as the saying goes.... shit happens... and even to the best! today with 2547 miles on my 2003 quad cab i ended up hitting a piece of disintegrating semi truck tire at 55mph. within 30 seconds i heard a loud constant noise and no one was around me but me so i pulled off to the side and low and behold the left rear tire is flat! so i get the jack out and change it with the spare. no problem the tires must be warranted right i mean they only been in use 30 days for 2547 miles. wrong!! ntb says they are not covered. the michelin warranty book which i finally read says road hazards are excluded in the coverage. what the hell is going on i never buy tires without a road hazard warranty where do these people from michelin have their heads when they sold dodge these tires! ntb will sell me another p245/70 r-17 with balancing mouting etc for $185.14. then the ntb guy has the audacity to try to sell me a road hazard warranty for $14.00 additional. why didnt the dodge dealer provide or sell me an additional road hazard warranty why didnt michelin provide the road hazard warranty why didnt i know this before i finally contacted the ntb dealer and read the tire warranty book i feel screwed not by dodge by michelin! crap like this shouldnt happen when less than a month ago i shell out over $20k for my quad cab! michelin claims they are #1 in customer satisfaction but certainly not in my book!! i am now looking for other tires i just may get rid of all the michelins. a very unhappy consumer! .

From : cc

of course they do; they all live in china. i love those cheep cheesy chinese made amerikan flags.... john lasy year my son made it to a state championship wrestling competition here in pa. it was held in the johnstown war memorial. the war memorial stadium was built as a shrine to honor those veterans that served in wwii and korea and old war posters photos and banners abound in the place. as we were going to our seats a stadium employee was handing out little plastic american flags so that everyone could wave them during the national anthem. as i was sitting there i was examining the flag and sure enough it said made in china right on the border! considering where we were and why the grand old place was built i just couldnt believe they would hand out chinese flags. i threw mine in the trash on the way out. randy jesus i was just being sarcastic! you mean its true then again nothing is made here anymore nothing! its sickening! and do you know why a whole lot less is made in america nowadays yea greed and on both sides of the fence. first you have the american business men that believe that high profits are the end to all things. it doesnt matter that the company is already making good money if more can be made by any means it is done and the easier the better. then on the other side you have the typical american citizen who has this compulsive need to live beyond their means and always have bigger and better whether they need it or not. hell the growing number of unneeded suvs and the fact that nobody builds smaller houses anymore attest to that. they also usually buy the lowest cost item and have no regard as to where it was made. now when you put these two things together you get what we have now. people buying things totally on the price and companies that in order to maintain profits stay competitive and satisfy their stockholders are moving production and outsourcing labor to foreign countries easiest way to cut costs and that is not a good thing. what both sides fail to see is that they are killing themselves and each other. the customers are hurting the american companies by buying foreign made stuff for nothing more than a dollar or two less than the american one and by doing so reducing the need for american workers. the companies by outsourcing everything to save money the easy way are eliminating needed jobs and are in effect eliminating their own customer base. the economic boom of a few years ago shows that american companies employing american workers increase the customer base and americans buying american products when they can creates more good paying jobs but then again people may have to give up a few things here and there and we cant have that now can we. i would have put in terms of competitive forces but greed. and i would have added a hug section on the governments and unions role in driving up the costs of making products in america creating the almost insurmountable difference in the cost of home vs. foreign manufacture. but otherwise that was pretty much were i was headed. no speeches for me today i guess .

From : dr zachary smith

david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i know uniformity takes away individuality but isnt it individuals with independent thought that create and discover the soviet union and other communist states tried the mass mentality idea and look what it got them. %%%% that opinion was posted by a well known lib/dem and as we all know they want socialism to control our lives and country. you guys kill me! complete inability to spot an oxymoronic comment! you must be a salemans dream! %%%% sorry but your propaqganda didnt work. socialist like you just want to make us thoughtless drones for the state. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . hahaha - socialist! you guys get dumber and dumber! so dumb you cant even tell when you are being made fun of! you respond just like a pre-programmed drone incapable of independent thought! %%%% spoke the socialist drone. tell me oh great intellectual one - which bit of what i said was socialist or is thinking beyond your remit %%%% re-read your posts and become enlightened! see jullian give a liberal a task and hell give it to someone else unpaid no less. .

From : cc

what both sides fail to see is that they are killing themselves and each other. the customers are hurting the american companies by buying foreign made stuff for nothing more than a dollar or two less than the american one and by doing so reducing the need for american workers. the companies by outsourcing everything to save money the easy way are eliminating needed jobs and are in effect eliminating their own customer base. the economic boom of a few years ago shows that american companies employing american workers increase the customer base and americans buying american products when they can creates more good paying jobs but then again people may have to give up a few things here and there and we cant have that now can we. i would have put in terms of competitive forces but greed. and i would have added a hug section on the governments and unions role in driving up the costs of making products in america creating the almost insurmountable difference in the cost of home vs. foreign manufacture. but otherwise that was pretty much were i was headed. no speeches for me today i guess okay. a truck made completely in the u.s. by a domestic manufacturer costs $30000. the average wage union paid to produce this vehicle is $30/ hour . the auto manufacturer says i am not going to pay those illiterate union bastards all that money and moves his plant overseas or to hecho en mexico. the labor cost to assemble the same $30000 truck is now $8/hour. but the truck still sells for $30000 or more. so whos getting phucked in this deal select as many as applicable 1. the auto manufacturer 2. the u.s. union employee 3. the non-union overseas employee 4. the customer .

From : dr zachary smith

what both sides fail to see is that they are killing themselves and each other. the customers are hurting the american companies by buying foreign made stuff for nothing more than a dollar or two less than the american one and by doing so reducing the need for american workers. the companies by outsourcing everything to save money the easy way are eliminating needed jobs and are in effect eliminating their own customer base. the economic boom of a few years ago shows that american companies employing american workers increase the customer base and americans buying american products when they can creates more good paying jobs but then again people may have to give up a few things here and there and we cant have that now can we. i would have put in terms of competitive forces but greed. and i would have added a hug section on the governments and unions role in driving up the costs of making products in america creating the almost insurmountable difference in the cost of home vs. foreign manufacture. but otherwise that was pretty much were i was headed. no speeches for me today i guess okay. a truck made completely in the u.s. by a domestic manufacturer costs $30000. the average wage union paid to produce this vehicle is $30/ hour . the auto manufacturer says i am not going to pay those illiterate union bastards all that money and moves his plant overseas or to hecho en mexico. the labor cost to assemble the same $30000 truck is now $8/hour. but the truck still sells for $30000 or more. so whos getting phucked in this deal select as many as applicable 1. the auto manufacturer 2. the u.s. union employee 3. the non-union overseas employee 4. the customer well lets look at that. first i dont accept your assertion that the price of manufacture wouldnt effect the price at market. possibly if only one company was involved but say three automakers are doing this then competetion comes into play. but lets assume that this business-class-envy canard is actually true. lets see 1 the auto manufacturer got to side step a billion assinine regulations and was able to put out a product on time for less money. since it will still have to meet the government product restrictions so it probably the same quality product. not getting screwed here. 2 the u.s. union employee. didnt get to make the car. possibly got laid off. is he screwed by the company or by the union leaders that care more about power and their personal wealth then abotu keeping jobs in america union working definately gets screwed. im not shedding a tear here. 3 the non-union overseas employee gets a job. gets to get paid and buy food for his family. if you ask him hes not going to say he is getting screwed. but i bet hed vote for higher pay for the union worker if he could 4 the customer he bought a car for $30000 that he was willing to pay $30000 for. does he care whether he paid $15000 extra into union employees pockets or into corportate owners pockets assuming your cannard about lowered costs not being reflected in a lower price he might if asked but he isnt so hes happy and purchased what he thought was fair market value as defined as what you are willing to pay. to suggest otehrwise is to say he has no choice in the brand of car he buys. .

From : exit

is it possible to have all of these items installed and work together - putco stainless steel bed caps and rails - cargo box preferably plastic - tonneau cover retractible 2001 dodge ram long box if by cargo box youre talking about a plastic bedliner then the answer is a resounding yes!. if by cargo box youre talking about a lockable tool chest then the answer is a qualified maybe. the real key in the second case is the type of chest pick one that isnt tall enough to interfere with the tonneau. if its short enough that its top only comes up to the bottom of the side rail youre home free. wally world has some. if youre willing to go aluminum tractor supply has a nice one in black- anodised diamondplate for $225 and ive seen silvery ones for under $200 in a bunch of places. fwiw i seem to remember seeing an accross the bed toolbox that had a retractible tonneau built into it. you might want to do some searching for that one. .

From : david l moffitt

the 02 dakota doesnt have one they forgot to put it in. just got back from the dealer i had my 02 in for a wet right side floorboard they ordered the parts and they will be in on wed. can anyone tell me how to locate the a/c drain on my 2002 dakota pickup .

From : exit

cc wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i

From : david l moffitt

a quick way to check the timing chain is to pull the distributor cap ignition off of course and rotate the engine backwards until the rotor just barely moves then watching how far you have to move the crankshaft balancer rotate it forward until the rotor again barely moves. if you have to turn the balancer more than a few degrees more than 5 degrees then the chain and/or sprockets are worn out. budd toivo maki wrote thanks to budd and denny for the good advice. i know im replying to my own message but im in a hurry . . . without going into detail on my thought process let me just say that using your advice i advanced the base ignition timing 10 degrees and havent had a backfire in the last couple of hundred miles of driving. more power better acceleration - it actually runs just about the way it is supposed to. i think a valve job is in order. i know this just bought me a little time but this engine is going to have a complete top end rebuild in a few weeks so a little time is what i needed. thanks again. t maki .

From : tbone

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From : exit

david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i know uniformity takes away individuality but isnt it individuals with independent thought that create and discover the soviet union and other communist states tried the mass mentality idea and look what it got them. %%%% that opinion was posted by a well known lib/dem and as we all know they want socialism to control our lives and country. you guys kill me! complete inability to spot an oxymoronic comment! you must be a salemans dream! %%%% sorry but your propaqganda didnt work. socialist like you just want to make us thoughtless drones for the state. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . hahaha - socialist! you guys get dumber and dumber! so dumb you cant even tell when you are being made fun of! you respond just like a pre-programmed drone incapable of independent thought! %%%% spoke the socialist drone. tell me oh great intellectual one - which bit of what i said was socialist or is thinking beyond your remit %%%% re-read your posts and become enlightened! im afraid that wont work old boy - my definition of socialism nationalisation of industries redist. of wealth state control of the economy etc are all things i actively campaign against as a member of the conservative party so youll have help me out and tell me exactly where this right wing politically active member of a right wing political party espoused socialism except in an ironic sense followed by and exclamation mark. i await your wisdom with baited breath. %%%% i am referring to the lib/dem/socialist.... o -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : totojepast

on sat 12 jul 2003 095820 -0400 fweddybear fweddybear@cox.net wrote well the vehicle has needed almost no maintenance for 120000 miles. = until the check engine light problem it has only needed a belt tensioner = replaced. otherwise it has been a reliable if deadly boring vehicle. regards ed white ed..... i had an 88 caravan not grand and when i bought it used = the check engine light was on so the dealer said he would fix it. well = when i picked up the van it was off but one thing about it bothered me... = that was that the tach would when the engine was shut off move up and stay = up when you shut the door or tap on the dash... etc.. well i didnt = bvelieve that this was normal so i decided to take apart the dash... well.. lo = and behold the little light for the check engine light was missing..... when= i brought it up to the sales person he basically said that the techs dont just pull out the light bulbs to get rid of the problems... well you can guess that this was only the beginning.... i took it to my repair guy = who ended up doing about 700 bucks in repair... muffler rear wheel = cylinder and a few other things.. and so the dealer ended up paying for half in = the end but as far as the check engine light... i cant remember what the reason was that it was on.... and this is the only thread i have seen of yours so i cant tell if you have had any testing done but i know that there is a button located in the dash i think its in between the tach = and the speedo that needs to be pushed in to get rid of the check engine = light coming on. my repair guy said it automatically comes on after a certain amount of mileage and if i remember correctly it had something to do = with the egr or the emissions... hope this helps you.. fwed that is not the check engine light. .

From : exit

david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i know uniformity takes away individuality but isnt it individuals with independent thought that create and discover the soviet union and other communist states tried the mass mentality idea and look what it got them. %%%% that opinion was posted by a well known lib/dem and as we all know they want socialism to control our lives and country. you guys kill me! complete inability to spot an oxymoronic comment! you must be a salemans dream! %%%% sorry but your propaqganda didnt work. socialist like you just want to make us thoughtless drones for the state. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . hahaha - socialist! you guys get dumber and dumber! so dumb you cant even tell when you are being made fun of! you respond just like a pre-programmed drone incapable of independent thought! %%%% spoke the socialist drone. tell me oh great intellectual one - which bit of what i said was socialist or is thinking beyond your remit %%%% re-read your posts and become enlightened! im afraid that wont work old boy - my definition of socialism nationalisation of industries redist. of wealth state control of the economy etc are all things i actively campaign against as a member of the conservative party so youll have help me out and tell me exactly where this right wing politically active member of a right wing political party espoused socialism except in an ironic sense followed by and exclamation mark. i await your wisdom with baited breath. %%%% i am referring to the lib/dem/socialist.... o -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . well thats not me then - you must have your wires crossed. %%%% apparently. as a wire gets longer and start missing you can lose track of who said what in a thread!! -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . .

From : cc

laddercapt wrote sorry...forgot to mention i had the 3 year/36000 warranty so that rules out dealer repair at no cost to me. when it quits playing the digital clock still shows the correct time so there is still power going to the radio. if i read your 2 choices for possible problems correctly neither is something i could fix myself. maybe ill swing by an electronics store and price another radio. ill assume that there are enough radio shapes that manufacturers offer some type of face plate to fit my vehicle and radio choice. there are only a few manufactures of radios that are designed to fit the chrysler size. that size is din 1.5 i believe. most stereos in all other cars are din 1. it is very easy to buy a bezel kit that accepts a din 1 radio and mounts to the dodge ram opening. they are inexpensive maybe $15 or so. another thing you will need is a wiring harness. this plugs into the rams wiring harness and allows easy connection to a new stereo without having to splice into your rams wiring. any car stereo store will have the items you need for a nice finished look. .

From : cc

according to your spelling of the word enviromentalist you dont seem to be educated. please change your e-mail address to uneducatedrepublican@yahoo.com much like the hitler rule when you are down to criticizing spelling youve truly run out of ideas. i love my v-10 sittin way up high. the power is unimagined and i feel heroic singing to lee greenwood. i like to push the guy ahead in the liberal econobox. even more when i have my headlights on blinding his mirrors! god made this country great so we could have power on demand because its all about us. god told rush that only he can change warming so my little output dont matter. if the enviros ban big motors we will be robbed of our power rights so write to your repesentatives or just crush the next subaru you see! steve .

From : david l moffitt

michelin ltx ms is the best road / light offroad tire out there. best ride and looong life. as far as discount they always find a way to try to screw you. i have had good luck lately with big o. it really depends on the shop and the individual you are dealing with i think. ignoramus14756@nospam.14756.invalid says... i have a 1999 1500 dodge ram 4x4. need to change tires soon 48k miles. any suggestion for the best place to change tires samsclub etc and good tires i i had a set of michelin ltx ats on my 2000 sierra and they were great tires the best i ever had. the only negative was the noise. a friend has the ltx m/s and he loves them. i got mine at sams in 2000. bdk .

From : adarwinian

steve why are you going with the centerforce clutch if the factory disc is not slipping denny since a group is by nature an open forum i just wanted to voice my opinion on the topic of the 4.7l sohc engine. i have seen a lot of people bash that engine in the ram 1500 quad cab. one poster even suggesting that it is useless at pulling a load in excess of 2000 pounds. i have to wonder if this is opinion or that said posters have actually driven a ram 1500 qc with the 4.7. either that or the automatic transmission dodge is putting in these trucks is a total piece of shit. for what it is worth i have a 2003 dodge ram 1500 quad cab slt 4x4 with the 4.7l sohc engine the 5-speed manual transmission and 3.92 gears in the rearend with the limited slip option. i have had it for 1 month now and have about 4200 miles on the odometer. over the last month i have averaged 15mpg in daily driving it has actually been improving as the miles passed the 2000 mark and the one trip i took to virginia earned me an 18.7mpg. i have a 3200 pound 20 boat and trailer combination that i tow with it regularly and have no trouble maintaining 70mph or better even on a grade. yes i do have to shift a lot to keep the engine in the meat of its powerband and 5th gear is usually out of the question when towing unless the road is completely flat or downhill. as yet i have only two complaints about the truck 1 i find the way the rear end hops at the slightest bumps unnerving dont give me that its a truck crap either my 2000 chevrolet silverado extended cab didnt do this why should the dodge 2 the goodyear all-season tires that came on it suck they will be replaced shortly. so to all considering a truck like this if you know how to drive a stick get one. i have had no power problems with this motor and tranny combination. in fact it is quite quick provided you are not squeemish about revving it to 5500 rpm before shifting. this motor is quite flat below 2000 rpm. in fact it doesnt really wake up until 3000. just my 2 cents but i am quite happy with 4.7l and the 5-speed manual. it is a good combination. i am considering the jba shorty headers volant cold-air induction and a borla exhaust system. if you believe the power gain claims on www.truckperformance.com for these components my truck should be around 300hp with these additions. well see. also centerforce is working on a replacement clutch for this. a centerforce clutch doesnt make anymore horsepower but allows you to put more of it to the rear wheels. ill let you all know how it works out. -- steve - fuquay varina north carolina .

From : cc

on sun 13 jul 2003 044230 gmt david l. moffitt moffitcl@prodigy.net wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i know uniformity takes away individuality but isnt it individuals with independent thought that create and discover the soviet union and other communist states tried the mass mentality idea and look what it got them. %%%% that opinion was posted by a well known lib/dem and as we all know they want socialism to control our lives and country. you guys kill me! complete inability to spot an oxymoronic comment! you must be a salemans dream! %%%% sorry but your propaqganda didnt work. socialist like you just want to make us thoughtless drones for the state. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . hahaha - socialist! you guys get dumber and dumber! so dumb you cant even tell when you are being made fun of! you respond just like a pre-programmed drone incapable of independent thought! %%%% spoke the socialist drone. tell me oh great intellectual one - which bit of what i said was socialist or is thinking beyond your remit %%%% re-read your posts and become enlightened! im afraid that wont work old boy - my definition of socialism nationalisation of industries redist. of wealth state control of the economy etc are all things i actively campaign against as a member of the conservative party so youll have help me out and tell me exactly where this right wing politically active member of a right wing political party espoused socialism except in an ironic sense followed by and exclamation mark. i await your wisdom with baited breath. %%%% i am referring to the lib/dem/socialist.... o -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . well thats not me then - you must have your wires crossed. %%%% apparently. as a wire gets longer and start missing you can lose track of who said what in a thread!! splendid - wouldnt want to be thought of as a socialist! and david admitted to a mistake so im assuming he is a fellow conservative %%%% amen!! brothers and sisters! ah said amen!!!! moffitt is a pathological lying shit bag. that proves he is a conservative. ----- david l. moffitt in action http//groups.google.com/groupssafe=images&ie=iso-8859-1&asumsgid=4er35u8j4si8640vesj8t1r48kjfpm74fq@4ax.com&lr=&hl=en .

From : cc

of course they do; they all live in china. i love those cheep cheesy chinese made amerikan flags.... john lasy year my son made it to a state championship wrestling competition here in pa. it was held in the johnstown war memorial. the war memorial stadium was built as a shrine to honor those veterans that served in wwii and korea and old war posters photos and banners abound in the place. as we were going to our seats a stadium employee was handing out little plastic american flags so that everyone could wave them during the national anthem. as i was sitting there i was examining the flag and sure enough it said made in china right on the border! considering where we were and why the grand old place was built i just couldnt believe they would hand out chinese flags. i threw mine in the trash on the way out. randy jesus i was just being sarcastic! you mean its true then again nothing is made here anymore nothing! its sickening! and do you know why a whole lot less is made in america nowadays yea greed and on both sides of the fence. first you have the american business men that believe that high profits are the end to all things. it doesnt matter that the company is already making good money if more can be made by any means it is done and the easier the better. then on the other side you have the typical american citizen who has this compulsive need to live beyond their means and always have bigger and better whether they need it or not. hell the growing number of unneeded suvs and the fact that nobody builds smaller houses anymore attest to that. they also usually buy the lowest cost item and have no regard as to where it was made. now when you put these two things together you get what we have now. people buying things totally on the price and companies that in order to maintain profits stay competitive and satisfy their stockholders are moving production and outsourcing labor to foreign countries easiest way to cut costs and that is not a good thing. what both sides fail to see is that they are killing themselves and each other. the customers are hurting the american companies by buying foreign made stuff for nothing more than a dollar or two less than the american one and by doing so reducing the need for american workers. the companies by outsourcing everything to save money the easy way are eliminating needed jobs and are in effect eliminating their own customer base. the economic boom of a few years ago shows that american companies employing american workers increase the customer base and americans buying american products when they can creates more good paying jobs but then again people may have to give up a few things here and there and we cant have that now can we. i would have put in terms of competitive forces but greed. and i would have added a hug section on the governments and unions role in driving up the costs of making products in america creating the almost insurmountable difference in the cost of home vs. foreign manufacture. but otherwise that was pretty much were i was headed. no speeches for me today i guess competitive forces are at best nothing more than another motivational force. as for the governments and union roles in driving up the costs lets also remember that they are a symptom of a higher problem not the direct cause. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

so want it or not you need to become somewhat knowledgeable on things that might need repair. at least to the point of evaluating truthfulness and logical completeness of what the repairmen suggest. could not have said it better. one needs to know what one should know or youll be defenseless in the midst of a pack of wolves and vultures. they know that car mechanics and the like probably take them for a ride every now and then. ignoring the initial hazing in this group is easy for an old hand like me. i had a similar story with an a/c professional when my house a/c broke. before calling prof. help i spent two hours trying to diagnose why the furnace fan did not work. i settled on the speed controller not working based on voltmeter measurements. i then called one guy to look at it. he says we need to replace the board. he said it very confidently. i asked him what evidence did he have that the board was bad. he started mumbling etc. just like your service manager suggesting to replace the parts with no evidence opf their failure. i then decided that he was just trying to rack up his work hours and hired someone else. who originally installed the furnace the other guy figured it all out and replaced the speed controller now everything works great. i think that he probably understood that bullshitting me is not going to get him very far. or maybe he was a naturally honest upstanding repairman. at any rate he will get my future business. there is an awful lot of crooks who repair things that customers do not understand car mechanics etc etc. not all of them are such but i have yet to meet an honest car mechanic. meaning someone who would not lie to me about condition of components would not suggest unnecessary repairs etc. consequently i do almost all work on my truck myself. if there was an honest car mechanic who had reasonable rates i would prefer a professional to do maintenance etc. so want it or not you need to become somewhat knowledgeable on things that might need repair. at least to the point of evaluating truthfulness and logical completeness of what the repairmen suggest. i ramman@dodgecity.cc wrote seems refrigerant loss on the 97 is a common problem. mine seems to lose not quite a full pound between summers always requiring just under a can to recharge it at the start of the cooling season. ive been adding a little every summer since it was 2 years old. finally last month i took it in to mr. dodgewrench for its 60k mile checkup and asked them to check the a/c. they said it was low on refrigerant doh but were unable to find the leak and suggested replacing the compressor ! i asked if they would guarantee that would fix it and the svc mgr said no. he would guarantee the compressor for 90 days but not that it would solve the leak. i told them unless they can positively find the leak and isolate it as definitely being in the compressor that the only way theyre going to replace it is if/when it finally fails. but then his tune changed and suddenly he was almost certain the compressor was the cause and i should have it replaced before it goes out completely. give me a freakin break! the truck only has 61000 miles on it. anyway because i wouldnt agree to let them replace the compressor he wouldnt recharge the system because he said it had a leak even tho his a/c man couldnt find it. yup its a racket but we kinda knew that didnt we so back to wally world for my annual purchase of a can of r134a. my a/cs been fine since. for the a/c tekkies out there heres the symptoms a/c clutch cycling on/off every 1-2 seconds or so vents blowing warm air. suction line feels a little cooler than ambient temp but barely. added 1 can r134a. within 2-3 secs of opening the valve the clutch locked in solid. within a minute the vents were blowing cold and the suction line was almost ice cold dripping w/condensate water. that was a month ago. still working fine. if its anything like last year and the 2 years before that it wont need gas again until next summer. i know this is not what the tree huggers and gas passers want to hear but its what works. writes tom lawrence wrote my a/c isnt working in my 97 ram pu and i noticed that the a/c clutch does not come on and drive the compressor at all. i checked to see if it spins and it does. is their a way to test the clutch their is a 2 prong electrical plug leading too it and is it just a matter of putting 12 volts on it disconnect the connector on top of the accumulator cylinder-looking thing next to the firewall on the passenger side - has a/c hoses coming out of it and stick the ends of a paper clip into the connector the part on the wire not the part left in the accumulator. with the engine running and the climate controls in the a/c position if the clutch engages youre low on refrigerant and need to get the leak found fixed and the