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From : steve k
Q: actually he was questioning if it was the best you can do tom. lol -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. stirring up trouble again tom actually hes just a common garden variety troll and not a really good one either. ten on the troll scale. a lower troll reading indicates more thought went into a sophisticated troll. is this the best that you can do maggot -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
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From : tbone
they can see it they just justify it. the human mind is an amazing and yet scary thing. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote lol do you sell tickets to that fantasy land that you live in. funny how on fox the right can bash all that they want but if their cowardly representation of the left says anything negative at all they are shut up. -- it simply amazes me how otherwise intelligent people cannot see that. .
From : hoo
nosey wrote small snip misc.activism.progressive where this message originated from. guess again. .
From : hoo
you probably only have two. one would be just at the input of the converter usually on top and the other one is where you found it. shut the fuck up troll .
From : rd
flights by military aircraft in darfur. we congratulate the members of the council on this timely and necessary action. i call on the government of sudan to honor the cease-fire it signed and to stop the killing in darfur. remarks by the president at the un general assembly 9/21/04 not until april 6 2004 did john kerry say we must act to prevent an enormous humanitarian tragedy in the darfur region of sudan. john kerry for president statement from kerry on the situation in the darfur region of sudan and the lessons of rwanda press release 4/6/04 kerrys claim president bush has overextended the army and is using a backdoor draft with national guard troops. the facts the $87 billion supplemental funding bill kerry voted against provided health benefits for reservists and guardsmen called to active duty as well as support for their families. highlights of iraq afghanistan measures the associated press 10/17/03; s. rept. 108-160 conference report on s. 1689 10/2/03; fy 2004 supplemental request for operation iraqi freedom oif operation enduring freedom oef and operation noble eagle one u.s. department of defense 9/03 the $87 billion supplemental funding bill kerry voted against provided extra money for body armor for soldiers . highlights of iraq afghanistan measures the associated press 10/17/03; s. rept. 108-160 conference report on s. 1689 10/2/03 as senator kerry voted at least twelve times against increasing pay for americas hardworking volunteer military personnel. donald rumsfeld authorized the army to grow by 30000 troops. defense secretary donald h. rumsfeld invoking emergency powers has authorized the army to grow temporarily by 30000 troops above its congressionally approved limit of 482000.. bradley graham 30000 more soldiers approved by rumsfeld the washington post 1/29/04 president bush on august 16 2004 announced the most comprehensive restructuring of u.s. military forces overseas since the end of the korean war. by closing bases no longer needed to meet cold war threats that have ended this new initiative will bring home many cold war-era forces while deploying more flexible and rapidly deployable capabilities in strategic locations around the world. president bush is taking steps to help reservists and national guard members improved mobilization process. president bushs remarks to the general conference of the national guard association of the united states 9/14/04 http//www.whitehouse.gov//releases/2004/09/print/20040914-23.html increased pay for our military including the national guard and reservists. supporting and strengthening the military and military families press release the white house 8/18/04 improved health care for the military and military families. supporting and strengthening the military and military families press release the white house 8/18/04 additional job training for national guard members and reservists. supporting and strengthening the military and military families press release the white house 8/18/04 expanded benefits for national guard members and reservists. supporting and strengthening the military and military families press release the white house 8/18/04 enhanced education benefits for national guard members and reservists. supporting and strengthening the military and military families press release the white house 8/18/04 kerrys claim the armys special forces capacity should be doubled. the facts army special operations command has already significantly increased the numbers of special forces trainees. gen. kensinger sir on the green beret side as you know from your visit it takes anywhere from 18 months to 24 months to put a soldier through the school house to have him at the basic level of special forces. in the school house itself since before 911 the school house was pushing through about 9000 students a year. were up to 17000. general brown and the socom staff is working very hard with us so that we can increase the capacity of the school house. weve gone from 450 graduates a year in the green berets to this year we should have over 550. lieutenant general philip kensinger united states army commanding general united states army special operations command hearing of the terrorism subcommittee of the house armed services committee 3/11/04 question sixteen health care kerrys claim president bush is restricting funding for stem cell research. the facts president bush is the first president in history to fund embryonic stem cell research. prior to president bushs august 9 2001decision there was no federal government funding for human stem cell research. there is no ban on private research of stem cells. federal funding of human embryonic stem cell research was $24.8 million for fy 2003 and $190.7 million in human non-embryonic stem cells adult stem cells including cord blood placental bone marrow etc.. this
From : tbone
i think only part of the conversation was captured by c-span. here is the transcript of the actual conversation. mccurry what were your impressions of the debate lockhart kerry kicked his can it was great. i am hungry. i want to go to wendys for dinner. mccurry i want to go to mcdonalds besides you know kerry cant stand wendys after that marine incident. lockhart then it is a draw. the consensus is it was a draw. mccurry kerry will break the tie with his strong leadership when he is finished giving interviews about how he thrashed bush in the debate. lockhart great idea kerry is very decisive. mccurry i hope we go to mcdonalds. they spell their name real cool like me. need i say more ill bear that in mind when im looking for a good debater. oh and then theres another unbias opinion. lockhart debate consensus a draw unbeknownst to kerry adviser mike mccurry a c-span camera quietly followed mccurry as he found kerry adviser joe lockhart on spin alley floor and asked him his impression of the debate. lockhart candidly said to mccurry the consensus is it was a draw. .
From : tbone
tbone wrote lol perhaps you should actually read the fox spin that you posted the link for. the numbers that they are giving are for the national election polls not last nights debate. like i said they are the most biased station on the air in tv. all media is heavily biased and you seem blind to that fact. cbs is by far the most biased and they got caught red faced too. cnn abc and msnbc are only slightly better. .
From : steve k
tbone wrote but he did look far more presidential than bush and held his own and shut down quite a few of bushs attempts at spin. what no mention of kerrys spin and flat out fups plutonium in n. korea bushs embargo on iran kerry is clueless but look above tbone you note only what kerry shut down. bush corrected kerry on many flat out goof ups. i mentioned 2 but of course they mean nothing to you. .
From : bob
tbone wrote please budd even fox itself admits to their bias. funny how the most right wing station in history is the only one with an unbiased report. tell ya what budd go onto msns web page and look at the voting results there. while is is not a scientifically valid survey as they say it is unbiased since they have no control over who goes there and see what their results are and btw msnbc is almost as right wing as fox. too funny. do equal numbers of dems and reps go to msnbc or cnn or fox for that matter results of so called experts is mixed too. heck even heavily biased cbs says it as a draw. lol please miles cbs is currently running scared. i didnt say that kerry killed bush in this debate because in fact he didnt. but he did look far more presidential than bush and held his own and shut down quite a few of bushs attempts at spin. some of your political commentators are saying that if bush didnt lose he won but the opposite is actually true. bush had a major advantage in this debate with his spin campaign saying that he was the man for the war and national security and this debate was completely about the war and national security. bush should have delivered the knockout blow here and made the next two debates meaningless for kerry. the fact is that he didnt come close to doing that and actually lost on presentation and even if it is a draw that means that bush loses because kerrys credibility has improved and will unite the democrats behind him rather than just against bush. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .