Microsoft Chokehold on OEMs in South Africa
From : Annonymous
Q: the hunt for a linux pc ---- quote | where can the average south african consumer get their hands on a | new pc loaded with linux instead of windows not a lot of places | as it turns out. ---- http//www.tectonic.co.za/view name some places in the us. .
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From : the ghost in the machine
on feb 6 541 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on feb 6 324 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on feb 6 254 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on feb 6 902 am roy r...@home.net wrote but you learned how to spell the name of the truck you are driving. thanks for proving my point roy. well i figure that if ya come on like a asshole ya get treated like one. maybe you should either lighten up of get a thicker skin. now that i think about it didnt you have a problem with your cruise or od dropping out i remember a deal with the tps brake light switch.... i believe you received the help you needed with no problem. but then again i could be wrong impossible you practice buddism! ya friggin heathen! with buddism ya can say and do whatever the hell ya want and be correct. if ya want i suppose i can google our offended mr. ring and see if im correct or not. blah blah blah. i am starting to think all the brow beating from budd has converted you roy. bg im not converted to anything. but i was shown a way to do say anything ya want and always be correct. i just named it buddism after its chief practicioner. hey it works since i am the one that has been accused of being offensive how could he be offended if i have never talked to him i went through google and didnt see the post he was talking about. the hell with it.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - just slow down there roy. i hope you didnt hurt your shoulder again typing that response. not in the least thanks for your concern. first of all my original post was not targeting you and was a general response to the original post. you responded to my post with a response exactly like what i was talking about so i just called you on it and it obviously hurt your feelings. you give yourself too much credit if you really believe that. i replied in the same manner in which you posted. i have as much right to respond to your remarks as you do to mine. most assuredly. your right you and tom lawernce helped me fix my truck. you didnt have to go on a covert mission to figure that out you could have just asked. google a covert mission please. you failed to report that i posted my gratitude to you and tom after fixing my truck. that is true. i am not as easily offended as you appear to be. seems your offended when sombody tells ya the correct name of that expensive engine in your truck. like i said was just sharing my two cents like every other post. thats what this is about isnt it sure is. i dont think that im the one in this discussion with a skin thickness problem. we disagree then. oh what i didnt find while googleing was the post that you refered to regards a spelling correction. didnt see it anywhere. care to point it out besides i dont believe in buddism. you will once you learn about its advantages.g .
From : geekboy
stephen harding wrote nosey wrote my free speech rights arent in question. its freedom of religion. looking back i see that i made a poor choice of words to explain my thought. i should have used the word authority instead of right. you can tell me that you /think/ im incorrect but you are not in a position to tell me what /is/ correct. your freedom of speech has no authority over my freedom of religion. freedom of speech allows you to string together whatever words you want and blurt them out but you still cant tell me what religious choice to make. you have the ability but you dont have the authority. you can *tell* me what to do but *you* cant tell *me* what to do. if i were so inclined i could *try*! and of course youd have the right to tell me to piss off! smh i /could/ tell you to piss off. but i wont. ;^ -- ken .
From : geekboy
anybody have any thoughts on replacement horns. not for a truck but a car. both the horns on the magnum and the charger are weak. im looking for a plug in not air. ive looked at griots but would like more options. tia http//www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/product/tf-browse/s-10101/pr-pproduct.catentryid2009014/p-2009014/n-111+10201+600002595/c-10101 thanks tom. i solved the problem with the charger. only one was hooked up. .
From : snoman
budd cochran wrote as a christian that believes the word of god to be true and accurate i have to be truthful also to everyone. to lie is a sin. mormonism is full of lies that have been disproved many time by the secular world book of abraham revised hieroglyphics language for just two items catholics have added much to christianity which is not supported by scripture just a couple purgatory the magical eucharist and in the pentacostal denominations one claims they can teach you to speak in tongues a prayer language is a gift from god and personal in nature another says you have to speak in tongues to be saved not supported by scripture and most dont interpret the tongue being babbeled according to scripture if one speaks in an unknown tongue let one or two interpret if many speak in an unknown tongue would a stranger think you to be mad and even the apostle paul said i would rather speak five words to your understanding than ten thousand in an unknown tongue. the scripture is written by who god wasnt it was man writing the word of god what if a man hears another message from god it cant be written into the scripture because the scripture is closed. so if it isnt in the scripture it cant be true did god say that he will never speak to man again after the writing of the scripture is complete you claim to follow the word of god but you wont believe anything less than 2000 years old. if you doubt any man that claims to hear the word of god now why do you believe what was written so long ago no christian source denies the bible was written by many men who were inspired by god. if a person can be inspired to write a famous poem about a tree a part of creation why couldnt the creater inspire men to write about him accurately the bible covers this when in matthew iirc jesus talked to the crowd about not following if someone comes along and says the messiah is in the desert another messiah. iow if another comes along claiming to have found a messiah and not the one found in the bible then dont believe them. this is what joseph smith has done and what makes it even more odd they teach the bible is incorrect yet they use selected portions to prove themselves always out of context. to compound the matter none of their doctrinal books doctrine and covenants for example even follows the book of mormon which teaches a triune god not polytheism. the palmyra new york court system has on record convictions against joseph smith as a fortune teller diviner fortune finder and con artist. it is recorded that he married multiple wives after sending their husbands on missions for the church yet claimed he did no such thing lying. jesus before he began his ministry was a carpenter. which would you find more believable a crook or a carpenter why was that carpenter nailed up on a cross in ii timothy 4 1-4 paul teaches that in the latter days men will allow strange non-christian doctrines to be taught as being christian and thusly pollute the word of god and that christians are called to rebuke those that would corrupt gods word. this is the crux of the matter. nowhere did i tell anyone anything that was not found in the bible which is my only source for answers. nowhere did i say to anyone they were going to hell unless the bible said they were and i only stated what the bible said. i am but the messenger in that respect. you claimed that you can only judge non-christians. telling or quoting the bible to a non-christian that they are going to hell is an empty threat for the most part. the only people that will take it with any meaning is other christians who you cant judge. why bother bringing it up because christians are supposed to tell the un-saved of their destiny in hopes they will turn to god the great commision is for all believers and no where does the bible say only selected individuals can preach and teach the word of god. no i believe the whole mess runs more deeply than that. over the past years i have noticed a troubling change in this group over the years where honesty truth civility and good accurate answers have taken a backseat to situation i would not want a child to read. yes there are a few that still give excellent answers and they are to be praised for it but you have some that cant pour water out of a boot with directions on the heel and they should be corrected when neccessary. i believe everyone should know where their beliefs / denomination strays from the church set up by the disciples jesus did not start christianity he was just the messiah if for no other reason than to let them know where conflicts are with biblical teachings. that is part and parcel of how the apostles spread christianity centuries ago remember where paul confronted the jewish converts that were insisting gentile converts be circumsized and the movement to make the correct day of worship to be saturday i found the position of
From : geekboy
tom lawrence wrote anybody have any thoughts on replacement horns. not for a truck but a car. both the horns on the magnum and the charger are weak. im looking for a plug in not air. ive looked at griots but would like more options. tia http//www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/product/tf-browse/s-10101/pr-pproduct.catentryid2009014/p-2009014/n-111+10201+600002595/c-10101 always had a compulsion to have air horns on my truck even though im overall against horns on cars rarely ever really needed and a long blast even more rarely so. theres probably some standard for car horns somewhere but i think it should be impossible to lay on the horn! it should issue an initial couple second blast then beep intermittently after that even when holding down the button. much more soothing and in congested traffic less grating on the ears. smh .
From : geekboy
on feb 6 1126 am chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@alltel.net wrote yup thats the way my 05 was. my 2004 as well. craig c. .
From : miles
on feb 6 255 am geekboy w...@nerdy.com wrote in that damn chevy group assholes to think that i thought aadt use bad about questions not being answered or some jackass jumping to offer a smartass remark to your answers! that group takes the fucking cake! i would be angry and an asshole if i bought a chevy also. its funny you brought that up. i just bought a dodge and my first diesel for the first time a few months ago and just started using this forum to help me learn about my truck. i remember very well my first question i misspelled cummins but you learned how to spell the name of the truck you are driving. .
From : miles
on feb 6 255 am geekboy w...@nerdy.com wrote that i thought aadt use bad about questions not being answered or some jackass jumping to offer a smartass remark to your answers! that group takes the fucking cake! i would be angry and an asshole if i bought a chevy also. its funny you brought that up. i just bought a dodge and my first diesel for the first time a few months ago and just started using this forum to help me learn about my truck. i remember very well my first question i misspelled cummins and the first thing i received were some asshole replies. alot of the posts i read are just assholes arguing back and forth about who is right and who is wrong. if you can weed through all the shit that comes from the assholes then sometimes you can find some good answers from good people. people are born assholes. no matter what we drive it is up to each of us through life to become strong and mature and unfuck ourselves. the rest that remain assholes are just plain weak and useless. .
From : snoman
snoman wrote on tue 06 feb 2007 022630 -0600 more advertising americ@degen.org wrote give me a headsup if you think i should do this - why is linux sucha bitch to operate more than anything the lack of a standard user interface or gui.htere are several flavors of them out there some good and some bad and if they can ever get standardized on one style gui they could grow more. more than anything else ms provides the standard gui to write software for and to work with. i think that the most popular distros for newbies ubuntu kubuntu pclinuxos opensuse already have standardised on either kde or gnome.... .
From : geekboy
my god man is everyone one in that damn chevy group assholes to think that i thought aadt use bad about questions not being answered or some jackass jumping to offer a smartass remark to your answers! that group takes the fucking cake! i would be angry and an asshole if i bought a chevy also. .
From : karl s
on mon 5 feb 2007 220850 -0600 geekboy wrote the hunt for a linux pc ---- quote | where can the average south african consumer get their hands on a | new pc loaded with linux instead of windows not a lot of places | as it turns out. ---- http//www.tectonic.co.za/view name some places in the us. there would be if there were any buyers. i suppose i could ask a linux user if there were some places to buy linux computers but although i know hundreds of computer users none of them use it on their personal computers. off the top of my head i only know one place that sells linux preinstalled. frys electronics. and that is a low budget computer. you can usually get it minus monitor for $199. and it is the linspire distribution formerly lindows thanks to m$. i have it on one of my personal computers. its good to know the major operating systems if it is your job. there were a a lot of linux on new computers a few years ago but mostly got dropped as linux got a bad reputation as not being very user friendly for the new or average user. also many hardware companies do not even make drivers for it. the problem for putting it on new computers it lack of support for newer or average users. m$ can do support because of also the sales of other items to go along with their os. there is many linux providers and not many of them selling other software with their distros. mostly only expensive support. .
From : gordon
as a christian that believes the word of god to be true and accurate i have to be truthful also to everyone. to lie is a sin. mormonism is full of lies that have been disproved many time by the secular world book of abraham revised hieroglyphics language for just two items catholics have added much to christianity which is not supported by scripture just a couple purgatory the magical eucharist and in the pentacostal denominations one claims they can teach you to speak in tongues a prayer language is a gift from god and personal in nature another says you have to speak in tongues to be saved not supported by scripture and most dont interpret the tongue being babbeled according to scripture if one speaks in an unknown tongue let one or two interpret if many speak in an unknown tongue would a stranger think you to be mad and even the apostle paul said i would rather speak five words to your understanding than ten thousand in an unknown tongue. the scripture is written by who god wasnt it was man writing the word of god what if a man hears another message from god it cant be written into the scripture because the scripture is closed. so if it isnt in the scripture it cant be true did god say that he will never speak to man again after the writing of the scripture is complete you claim to follow the word of god but you wont believe anything less than 2000 years old. if you doubt any man that claims to hear the word of god now why do you believe what was written so long ago no christian source denies the bible was written by many men who were inspired by god. if a person can be inspired to write a famous poem about a tree a part of creation why couldnt the creater inspire men to write about him accurately the bible covers this when in matthew iirc jesus talked to the crowd about not following if someone comes along and says the messiah is in the desert another messiah. iow if another comes along claiming to have found a messiah and not the one found in the bible then dont believe them. this is what joseph smith has done and what makes it even more odd they teach the bible is incorrect yet they use selected portions to prove themselves always out of context. to compound the matter none of their doctrinal books doctrine and covenants for example even follows the book of mormon which teaches a triune god not polytheism. the palmyra new york court system has on record convictions against joseph smith as a fortune teller diviner fortune finder and con artist. it is recorded that he married multiple wives after sending their husbands on missions for the church yet claimed he did no such thing lying. jesus before he began his ministry was a carpenter. which would you find more believable a crook or a carpenter in ii timothy 4 1-4 paul teaches that in the latter days men will allow strange non-christian doctrines to be taught as being christian and thusly pollute the word of god and that christians are called to rebuke those that would corrupt gods word. this is the crux of the matter. nowhere did i tell anyone anything that was not found in the bible which is my only source for answers. nowhere did i say to anyone they were going to hell unless the bible said they were and i only stated what the bible said. i am but the messenger in that respect. you claimed that you can only judge non-christians. telling or quoting the bible to a non-christian that they are going to hell is an empty threat for the most part. the only people that will take it with any meaning is other christians who you cant judge. why bother bringing it up because christians are supposed to tell the un-saved of their destiny in hopes they will turn to god the great commision is for all believers and no where does the bible say only selected individuals can preach and teach the word of god. no i believe the whole mess runs more deeply than that. over the past years i have noticed a troubling change in this group over the years where honesty truth civility and good accurate answers have taken a backseat to situation i would not want a child to read. yes there are a few that still give excellent answers and they are to be praised for it but you have some that cant pour water out of a boot with directions on the heel and they should be corrected when neccessary. i believe everyone should know where their beliefs / denomination strays from the church set up by the disciples jesus did not start christianity he was just the messiah if for no other reason than to let them know where conflicts are with biblical teachings. that is part and parcel of how the apostles spread christianity centuries ago remember where paul confronted the jewish converts that were insisting gentile converts be circumsized and the movement to make the correct day of worship to be saturday i found the position of your most quoted reference interesting. http//www.carm.org/seek/deno
From : geekboy
does anyone know if an electric coolant heater is available for the cummins diesel the type im referring to has an electrode like a household hot water heater that is placed into the cylinder block. by plugging in the heater the coolant is preheated to avoid cold starts in frigid conditions. what year is your truck .
From : linonut
2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins as was mentioned there is a high idle flash that can be done if you dont already have it. iirc you can bring the idle up to 1200 rpm with the cruise control buttons only if its automatic. huh plenty of stick shifts have cruse crontrol. but a stick shift doesnt give the computer the required in park signal. thats why the high idle with cruise buttons only works on a stick. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. al .
From : the ghost in the machine
on tue 06 feb 2007 190256 +0000 numan wrote i bought a new 2006 quad cab dodge dakota st 4x4 for $25000 just this past september. it turns out that it doesnt fit my personality at all. it only has 4500 miles and is less than 6 months old and now places want to give me $14000 in trade in. i am dumb-founded! never trade in a vehicle with a dealer. they take it spend a little time and effort then generate big bucks. sell it yourself. you will most likely find that you can pocket $100 or more an hour for your time. .
From : the ghost in the machine
roy wrote damn steve use your truck until it gets to 20 above will ya. hah! its actually not as bad as many people think. the old truism dress in layers. lots of really good warm/dry fabrics out there now that really help you keep warm in the cold. but a heated bicycle seat still intrigues me! smh .
From : tbone
2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins as was mentioned there is a high idle flash that can be done if you dont already have it. iirc you can bring the idle up to 1200 rpm with the cruise control buttons only if its automatic. al i wasnt aware of that. roy .
From : randal
geekboy wrote geekboy wrote on mon 5 feb 2007 220850 -0600 geekboy wrote the hunt for a linux pc ---- quote | where can the average south african consumer get their hands on a | new pc loaded with linux instead of windows not a lot of places | as it turns out. ---- http//www.tectonic.co.za/view name some places in the us. there would be if there were any buyers. i suppose i could ask a linux user if there were some places to buy linux computers but although i know hundreds of computer users none of them use it on their personal computers. off the top of my head i only know one place that sells linux preinstalled. frys electronics. and that is a low budget computer. you can usually get it minus monitor for $199. and it is the linspire distribution formerly lindows thanks to m$. i have it on one of my personal computers. its good to know the major operating systems if it is your job. there were a a lot of linux on new computers a few years ago but mostly got dropped as linux got a bad reputation as not being very user friendly for the new or average user. also many hardware companies do not even make drivers for it. the problem for putting it on new computers it lack of support for newer or average users. m$ can do support because of also the sales of other items to go along with their os. there is many linux providers and not many of them selling other software with their distros. mostly only expensive support. i always wanted to get into linux but feared it. its used for a lot of science aps professional astronomy & spectroscopy etc. i was always waiting for a windows version my son is a ceo and former cio or a large corp and would have given me a machine years ago .... linux is used for higher level telescope control and spectroscopy analysis software like spectrum; the windows counterparts are all pure crap full of bugs and no documentation at all real crapware eg. vspec!. im too old to do it now ......... maybe give me a headsup if you think i should do this - why is linux sucha bitch to operate linux was derived from unix. unix was designed by and for programmers. linux still heavily retains its roots with text interface. i have a book that is 5 inches thick full of commands and included text based software that is included with linux and it covers only basic operations. it could take months to years to learn all that and the power that could be done as compared to windows. some software packages for linux is a serious learning curve and most non technical users would not be able to understand even how to insall some software on their linux. a lof of people who make software feel it is best to have the software compiled on their system is best policy to ensure it runs properly. that has changed a lot with different versions made for different platforms and making a rpm file for the software package which is similar to the windows installer. the desktop has also become a lot better and more windows like. one good thing about linux is that there is just not too many viruses and other malware for it. i can believe that. that is because it is way too small of a target and provides no real bang for the buck. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : more advertising
max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote well floyd what youve got is about 9 years old. i read in several newer and what ive got is the *only* such estimate. there are no others. you are making up statistics. im sorry floyd but thats incorrect. sorry but you are clueless. what i said is *precisely* correct. http//www.doi.gov//030312.htm cites 10 billion + did you read what i said did you read what you are quoting the usgs estimates that it contains a mean expected value of 10.4 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil. so you cite an example of *exactly* what i told you. of course it isnt surprising when you cite a department of the interior webpage to find that they are using doi resourse... which is the usgs. and as i pointed out technically recoverable oil includes oil that would cost $2000/bbl to extract. and the quote of 10.4 billion barrels is *not* for the 1002 area of anwr but for the entire north eastern section of alaska that the 1998 usgs study covered. since it is going to fly right over your head let me point out that gail norton was caught *lying* to congress about anwr and made every attempt at dishonest distortions. the article you cite is a gail norton distortion. you fell for it hook line and sinker. congress didnt! here is the data from the department of the interiors usgs report || volume of oil in part of study area || millions of barrels || f95 mean f05 ------------------------------||--------------------------- entire assessment area1 || 5724 10360 15955 1002 area of anwr || 4254 7668 11799 deformed area || 3403 6420 10224 undeformed area || 0 1248 3185 1 includes 1002 area shown on figure 2 native landsr and adjacent state water areas within 3-mile boundary see fig. 2. table 1 estimates of volumes of technically recoverable oil in various parts of anwr assessemnt study area. so what your cite does is simply verify *precisely* what i had told you. people who are dishonest try to distort the facts from the usgs report. http//www.anwr.org/backgrnd/potent.html claims 4.8 billion to 29.4 billion depending on source of information they cite. http//www.anwr.org/features/pdfs/anwrestimates.pdf puts the mean recoverable at 18 billion depending on technology. whatever source arctic power cites 1 they *all* trace back to exactly one source the usgs report that i provided for you and 2 is almost certainly going to be a distortion given that arctic power the owner of anwr.org is a political propaganda machine paid for by the republican legislature in alaska and intended to lobby for opening anwr. they are to put it mildly the absolute least reliable source of information available about anwr. the second cite you give above is on of the most grossly ridiculous papers on anwr that exists. it basically says the usgs estimates are off by a factor of more than 2. it bases that on how oil extraction technology improved from 1968 to 1995 and says that will be repeated in the next decade specifically for anwr. see above about how arctic power lacks integrity! as i pointed out to you previously in place is a figure with no merit at all because it includes oil that cant be extracted at any cost. doi estimates that in-place resources range from 4.8 billion to 29.4 billion barrels of oil there is the exact text from your cite. the data is totally worthless. note that the very next sentence which you apparently ignored said recoverable oil estimates ranges from 600 million barrels at the low end to 9.2 billion barrels at the high end. that of course is the technically recoverable oil and is according to the 1988 report which the 1998 report totally contradicted saying where the above oil was expected to be there is probably only 1.2 billion barrels see the above table under undeformed area. the paragraph following the one quoted above references the 1998 report that ive been explaining to you. hence your newer information is actually the older information... again you have demonstrated that the distortions and lies that i said are available are indeed exactly what you are relying on! again its not the amount that is important but the fact that its there and is of sufficient magnitude as to be economically feasable to recover. *all* other debate is based on the usgs report that ive cited. the whole point of my comment was indeed that it is an estimate. there are *no* proven reserves. i never said there was. you say the fact that its there. in fact we do *not* *know* of even one drop of oil in anwr. we dont know there is any oil so how can we know it is of sufficient magnitude to be economically feasable to recover you are exceedingly confused. next if you read what i said rather than picking at exacting
From : linonut
roy wrote on feb 6 254 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on feb 6 902 am roy r...@home.net wrote but you learned how to spell the name of the truck you are driving. thanks for proving my point roy. well i figure that if ya come on like a asshole ya get treated like one. maybe you should either lighten up of get a thicker skin. now that i think about it didnt you have a problem with your cruise or od dropping out i remember a deal with the tps brake light switch.... i believe you received the help you needed with no problem. but then again i could be wrong impossible you practice buddism! ya friggin heathen! with buddism ya can say and do whatever the hell ya want and be correct. if ya want i suppose i can google our offended mr. ring and see if im correct or not. damn!!! i was right! mr ring posted on the 24th of dec about a od prob. both myself and tom l answered him. on the 26th he posted that it was the brake light switch was the culpert. i mentioned on the 24th. as being the cheapest fix. yup im an ass hole. one with a long memory. i thought that this group was about trucks not whos the biggest asshole .what good does knowing who the biggest asshole do to make my truck run better !!!!!!!!! has a lot to do with it if hes behind the wheel of your truck.g .
From : the ghost in the machine
2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins i recently started having problems with apparent missing low power and fuel mileage. i took the truck back to the dealer to resolve the problem as i only have 2500 miles on it. the response from the dealer appeared very vague and left me uncomfortable. when i went to pick up the truck i made sure i found the service manager to get a better explanation of the problem. i could tell from talking to him it was a problem that was frusterating to him also. the report i get is that i let the truck idle too much. with some recent design changes in the last year or so the cummins trucks apparently shouldnt be left to idle much. it was reported to me an acceptable idle was about 20% of running time where-as my truck showed about 33% idle time while running. apparently idling to much seems to gum up the injector system. cummins wont warranty the problem. the solution according to the dealer is a fuel system cleaning or flush or what-ever. the service guy let me know that cummins didnt consider it their problem so the dealers were having to eat the cost of the fuel system cleaning to the tune of $250. the guy told me this was the third late model cummins diesel to come in in a month with the same problem. according to him cummins was aware of the problem was working on a solution but was being vague in acknowledging the problem as to not accept responsibility. i mentioned to the guy that i thought diesels were generally used in situations where long idle times were normal and that the owners manual encourages owners to let the engines idle in order to properly coold the turbo. i mentioned that in town driving involved lots of idle times. he said cummins response to that was that if thats the type of driving one does you should buy a gas vehicle. anyone have any opinion or input i like my cummins/dodge but its looking like after 2500 miles i might have picked the wrong vehicle. sazrac .
From : miles
budd cochran wrote big snip why was he nailed up to the cross for you and me and t-bone and larry and roy and everyone else. oh no!! you arent blaming me for this!! i wasn;t around yet. you on the other hand must have been. figure it would take ya that many years to become such a stubborn objectioable pia!!! another big snip .
From : miles
yankees drive with their horns theyd be lost without em. ;^ mike we use push bumpers in the south *grin* -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .