Michelin Bit the Dust! NO ROAD HAZARD WARRANTY EITHER!

From : scanman

Q: well the vehicle has needed almost no maintenance for 120000 miles. until the check engine light problem it has only needed a belt tensioner replaced. otherwise it has been a reliable if deadly boring vehicle. regards ed white ronm wrote my best advice this coming from a guy who bought and still have a 78 chysler cordoba get rid of that problem chysler product dont do as i did!!!!!!!!!!! ronm c. e. white wrote for six months i have been trying to help my so fix her mini-van. the mini-van is a 1998 plymouth grand voyager 3.0l v-6 automatic with around 128000 miles. several months back her check engine light illuminated however the car ran ok and the mileage seemed normal. round one - local dodge dealer performed a tune up. mostly new new plugs. light stayed out for a few days. round two - local western auto replaced plugs and wires. light stayed out for a few days. round three - western auto again - replaced plugs again. light was out for a few days. round four - yours truly - used ignition switch method to trigger code read out. got code 43. checked coil resistance compared to manual decided it was not quite right so i replaced it. disconnected battery and the light stayed out for almost a week. round five - used code reader and got p0300 and p0305 codes random misfire and misfire on #5 cylinder. checked plugs they looked fine. i decided that maybe the plug wire was not on correctly. reset light. the light stayed out for almost a week. round six - same codes as before. replaced wires and #5 plug. reset light. stayed out for a couple of days. round seven - same codes as before plus p0306. decided problem might be leaking intake manifold gaskets so i replaced them. reset the light and it stayed out for about three days. round eight - p0300 and p0305 codes again. in desperation i replaced plug #5 with another brand ngk and replaced the o2 sensor with a genuine chrysler part. light stayed out for 3 days but the vehicle did not complete the obdii driving cycle. round nine - dodge dealer again. same codes. dealer performs compression test and says the compression is fine. performs a leak down test and says based on this test the engine is shot and should be replaced - for $4000. round ten - help! $4000 is a lot to but into this van. it is only worth around $4500 in good condition. i am suspicious of the diagnosis that the van needs a new engine. it runs ok. not perfect but no oil usage no smoke idle is little rough but runs smooth at speed. p0305 code usually shows up with a couple of days after resetting the computer. i have certainly driven vehicles that run worse. if i leave the code reader connected to the engine i never see the mis-fire condition. the problem is almost always the same p0300 along with p0305. once p0306 was also found but this was a typical. not fixing the problem is not an option since this is an obdii inspection area. i am willing to try miracle cures...... regards ed white .

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From : david

laddercapt wrote im the proud owner of a 2002 ram quad cab that hasnt caused me any concern for the last 42000 miles until this week. seems the radio just stops playing when it feels the urge. for the most part the radio comes on and sounds fine for about 5 seconds and then stops. i can turn it off and back on and again it plays for 5 seconds and quits. occasionally it will treat me to 5 minutes or more of music before the volume drops about in half and then the radio quits. then the 5 second playing thing occurs again. this happens when the truck is running or while the key is turned to the accesory mode so im not thinking it is a connection being vibrated loose. anyone have any experience looking for the culprit or am i better off just throwing in a new radio from some electronics store thanks for any insight. isnt it still under warranty if so let the dealer take care of it. when you say it quits playing does it appear to have lost all power no lights on the radio since turning it off and back on seems to get it working i see two possibilities. the power switch on the radio may be bad or more likely the radios amp is messed up and shutting down. the stock radio imho is junk. even the so called premium stereo. when i bought my 2001 qc new the 1st thing i did was take out the stereo and put in a decent alpine deck from my local store. sorry...forgot to mention i had the 3 year/36000 warranty so that rules out dealer repair at no cost to me. when it quits playing the digital clock still shows the correct time so there is still power going to the radio. if i read your 2 choices for possible problems correctly neither is something i could fix myself. maybe ill swing by an electronics store and price another radio. ill assume that there are enough radio shapes that manufacturers offer some type of face plate to fit my vehicle and radio choice. thanks for your answer. .

From : joe beakley

david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote david l. moffitt wrote i have been reading this string for the last couple of days and have found the conversations both interesting and knowledgeable although i must take exception with this statement. personally i think its the lack of school uniforms in american schools that causes problems - last thing you want in education is independent individuals! independent thought is what leads to creativity. the last thing that i would want for a gifted child is to put him/her into a situation where they were expected to follow the flock and stay at the same level as those around them. i know uniformity takes away individuality but isnt it individuals with independent thought that create and discover the soviet union and other communist states tried the mass mentality idea and look what it got them. %%%% that opinion was posted by a well known lib/dem and as we all know they want socialism to control our lives and country. you guys kill me! complete inability to spot an oxymoronic comment! you must be a salemans dream! %%%% sorry but your propaqganda didnt work. socialist like you just want to make us thoughtless drones for the state. -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . hahaha - socialist! you guys get dumber and dumber! so dumb you cant even tell when you are being made fun of! you respond just like a pre-programmed drone incapable of independent thought! %%%% spoke the socialist drone. tell me oh great intellectual one - which bit of what i said was socialist or is thinking beyond your remit %%%% re-read your posts and become enlightened! im afraid that wont work old boy - my definition of socialism nationalisation of industries redist. of wealth state control of the economy etc are all things i actively campaign against as a member of the conservative party so youll have help me out and tell me exactly where this right wing politically active member of a right wing political party espoused socialism except in an ironic sense followed by and exclamation mark. i await your wisdom with baited breath. %%%% i am referring to the lib/dem/socialist.... o -- julian. ---------- general melchett from blackadder describing his regiments coat of arms . . . .two dead frenchmen atop a pile of dead frenchmen. . . . . well thats not me then - you must have your wires crossed. %%%% apparently. as a wire gets longer and start missing you can lose track of who said what in a thread!! splendid - wouldnt want to be thought of as a socialist! and david admitted to a mistake so im assuming he is a fellow conservative .

From : jacob suter

@twister.southeast.rr.com steve the springs in your new ride are quite a bit stiffer than your gm. put a bit of weight at the tailgate and youll be surprised at the difference. the old chevy/gmc heavy half had the same issue the standard gm 1500 springs are very soft - to give a more car-like ride - but dont provide the payload capacity whereas the heavier springs really need a bit of weight on them. i put over 250k miles on an 81 gmc heavy half and made a point of keeping some weight in it for that very reason. oh yeah - that truck had an 85 hp 250 cid i-6 3 on the column and a 2.72 rear end with oversize 7.00-15 tires. knowing what that truck would do and what i did with it its not surprising that yours will out-perform it in almost every way. enjoy your truck and ignore those who think that you have to have a monster engine to pull a small boat. .

From : jacob suter

welcome to reality. when was the last time you purchased a car was it a studebaker were there dinosaurs running around you can do two things when you purchase a new car. you can purchase road hazard warranty on the tires for some exorbinant fee or take the car to a tire shop and ask to purchase a road hazard warranty from them. ive done this once at a private firestone shop and more recently at discount tire. i bought free replacement certificates at discount tire - any problems they replace them for free. be glad you didnt get the goodyear wrangler aps like my 99 got stuck with - blew one at 4200 miles two others were showing really weird wear. goodyear replaced the tires under their defect warranty. upgraded me to the wrangler rt/s - and they just wore out in 25k you just cant win with badyear. js today with 2547 miles on my 2003 quad cab i ended up hitting a piece of disintegrating semi truck tire at 55mph. within 30 seconds i heard a loud constant noise and no one was around me but me so i pulled off to the side and low and behold the left rear tire is flat! so i get the jack out and change it with the spare. no problem the tires must be warranted right i mean they only been in use 30 days for 2547 miles. wrong!! ntb says they are not covered. the michelin warranty book which i finally read says road hazards are excluded in the coverage. what the hell is going on i never buy tires without a road hazard warranty where do these people from michelin have their heads when they sold dodge these tires! ntb will sell me another p245/70 r-17 with balancing mouting etc for $185.14. then the ntb guy has the audacity to try to sell me a road hazard warranty for $14.00 additional. why didnt the dodge dealer provide or sell me an additional road hazard warranty why didnt michelin provide the road hazard warranty why didnt i know this before i finally contacted the ntb dealer and read the tire warranty book i feel screwed not by dodge by michelin! crap like this shouldnt happen when less than a month ago i shell out over $20k for my quad cab! michelin claims they are #1 in customer satisfaction but certainly not in my book!! i am now looking for other tires i just may get rid of all the michelins. a very unhappy consumer! .

From : jerry

today with 2547 miles on my 2003 quad cab i ended up hitting a piece of disintegrating semi truck tire at 55mph. within 30 seconds i heard a loud constant noise and no one was around me but me so i pulled off to the side and low and behold the left rear tire is flat! so i get the jack out and change it with the spare. no problem the tires must be warranted right i mean they only been in use 30 days for 2547 miles. wrong!! ntb says they are not covered. the michelin warranty book which i finally read says road hazards are excluded in the coverage. what the hell is going on i never buy tires without a road hazard warranty where do these people from michelin have their heads when they sold dodge these tires! ntb will sell me another p245/70 r-17 with balancing mouting etc for $185.14. then the ntb guy has the audacity to try to sell me a road hazard warranty for $14.00 additional. why didnt the dodge dealer provide or sell me an additional road hazard warranty why didnt michelin provide the road hazard warranty why didnt i know this before i finally contacted the ntb dealer and read the tire warranty book i feel screwed not by dodge by michelin! crap like this shouldnt happen when less than a month ago i shell out over $20k for my quad cab! michelin claims they are #1 in customer satisfaction but certainly not in my book!! i am now looking for other tires i just may get rid of all the michelins. a very unhappy consumer! .

From : m g

thanks for the help!!! i searched the net but couldnt find anything!!! good sites!!! i hope to get my truck to look as good as yours!!! thanks aarcuda george bush wrote does any produce after market steering shaft for the older dodge four wheel drive pickups my shaft is in pretty bad shape. i ordered a new coupler kit from dodge but the end of the shaft and the coupler is pretty beat. does any body recondition these shafts i want to put some type of lift on the truck. what happens to the steering shaft if it is a body lift any help would be appreciated aarcuda borgeson http//www.borgeson.com/ and flaming river http//www.flamingriver.com/ and i think a few more. i bought a borgeson for my 92 w150 power ram and i am happy with it. it is probably the same shaft your truck takes. i think there about $190 through summit racing or other similar companies. -dave 91 dodge ram d150 92 dodge ram w150 http//www.geocities.com/matt4982/mytruck.html .