MSD wires for a 99 Dak 5.2

From : jacob suter

Q: agreed. +4s dont seem to work well on anything. im having no problems with my champion truck plugs. the regular ones werent in stock that day. the champion truck plugs are essentially a normal plug with slightly wider electrode. hoody hoo. not worth twice the cash. js have seen many problems with putting anything but what is called for by the emisions sticker. if the vehicle was not engineered for platinum plugs there is a good chance you are going to cause some wierd side affects like poor gas mileage or run rough or misfires at idle. i have also seen problems with the champion truck spark plugsthe black and gold ones causing similar problems. should have spent the eight dollars and got the champs copper plugs. good luck bryan just did a routine tune up and decided to give these new fangled bosch +4 platinum plugs a try. they have twice the spark and the gap is pre-set at the factory. they were pretty expensive 8 of them was $30 at walmart. but....now it seems to me my mpg has dropped quite a bit. i have not calculated it but it just seems this last tank of gas went awful quick. does anyone else have experience with these plugs good or bad i am thinking i may need to go back to champion plugs. mark .

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From : trey

way of the instrument panel also had to sorta look hard to locate it and read felt i was taking my eye off the road too long. went to the pillar mount and no problem. ymmv roy i intend to install a trans temp gauge permanently when i drop the pan to service the trans for the first time. how do you do it i . 222 262179 urcdnqhxyn8cwmwjxtwjga@comcast.com any proof to this well first you claim there is no direct contact of metal or something to that effect. thats wrong. in fact the pump doesnt even have bearings its flat steel on steel. as are the rings on a piston against the cylinder walls and yet they seem to survive these conditions very well. second the tc bushing depends on pressure from the pump to force fluid onto the neck/bushing surface for lubrication. no pressure no lube bushing gets fried. in 5 seconds i doubt that. where is your proof and maybe its not bad enough that you notice anything.... except for that leak that suddenly appeared dripping from the bellhousing. i doubt that could happen in 5 seconds unless the bushing was already scored and about to fail. third assuming there is a film of oil left when its spun dry youve effectively forced air throughout the trans circuits including to all the bearings. fun huh i imagine that is also the case when they are first rebuilt and empty. how do they survive the initial startup. also with what he suggested how much air would really be forced through the trans circuits unless the pump is as effective pumping air as it is pumping fluid which we both know that it is not the pressure would effectivly drop off as soon as the pan emptied out and long before the trans circuits were emptied out. yes the *engagement* of the transmission with low oil levels will damage the transmission for one reason - unable to build up enough pressure to keep bands and clutches engaged this will rapidly increase temperatures fluid breakdown occurs and all hell breaks loose.. not to mention starving the bearings and bushings. true but unless you can prove that they are dry they are unlikley to be damaged. when the shifter is in park or neutral nothing is engaged therefore no heat buildup and no transmission failure. the layer of lubricant that is on those parts should last for at least 5 seconds... in park you arent pumping a damn thing out of that trans. oh really why not as to the five seconds.... well if you want to gamble it thats your trans go for it. five seconds at 750 rpm thats 62 revolutions at a fair speed that you are hoping a film of oil with no pressure will remain stable and not be forced aside or vaporized. good luck. i believe that this is where you were asked to prove your point. unless you can prove that the fluid will be pushed aside or vaporized in 5 seconds causing serious damage your entire argument is once again smoke and mirrors. the pump itself should be under very little mechanical load since its building no pressure and the inner gear of the pump is held by the torque converter and the outer gear should be a perfect fit with the pump housing... perfect fit wtf is that there is a clearance spec on that rotor dont have it immediately available but there is enough clearance that without fluid the rotor could score the housing. hell ive seen trannies that did have enough fluid score the outer gear and housing. and how long were these transmissions running low on fluid before this damage occured i bet that it was considerably longer then 5 seconds in park. the teeth are precision - its not like the gears bang together... wrong. they are precision but they are not a perfect fit in the traditional gear to gear sense. they cannot be they rotate one inside the other. hell unless theyve changed radically in the new ones the mopar gear pumps dont even have gear shaped teeth in the normal sense. now all bets are off if the pump is half full of metal filings or some other bad situation... then again if theres that much metal about your transmission is just an anchor waiting to happen anyways.... so invite trouble by sucking the last drop of fluid out of it isnt that why the filter is there -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .