MI5 Persecution: Toronto Freenet supports free speech (4420)

From : Annonymous

Q: suddenly without warning geekboy exclaimed 19-jan-07 702 am suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 19-jan-07 211 am i wont try claim to be able to verify the facts of this but it does closely parallel the chicago suburb gun ban results from many years ago. politicians are incapable of learning from the mistakes of others. budd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ heres a thought to warm some of your hearts... from ed chenel a police officer in australia hi yanks i thought you all would like to see the real figures from down under. it has now been 12 months since gun owners in australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government a program costing australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. first let me say that i do not support gun control. assuming these numbers are true though there are other reasons for the increase of crime at least in the town im in which has nothing to do with gun control. i dont want to get into them though because there is no doubt itll devolve in a flamewar one weve already had. how do i know guns had nothing to do with it because ive been here on and off since 1989 and ive never heard of a crime in this town that was *stopped* by a gun. or perpetrated with one. oh if you thought a criminal had a gun would you attempt to stop them from stealing something or commiting some crime now put that in the other perspective. if you wanted to break into someones home at night and were unsure they had a weapon or not what would the choice be after congress did a weapons bann some years ago in dc crime has sky rocketed and become the murder captiol of the us. oh dont get me wrong read my first sentence i do believe that gun control can raise crime rates. its just that as far as i can see having lived here on and off since 1989 aussies never went in for guns in a big way so gun control doesnt have the effect that it has in the us. at least not here in the outback. maybe in the cities but never lived on the coast. thats practically a different country even to other australians just so were clear on this we own guns tho not here. hubbys an nra member. we like our guns and believe wholeheartedly in the second amendment increasingly so in todays political environment. i was living near dc when it became the murder capitol. fortunately not too near jmc .