Lift Kit advice..
From : carl saiyed
Q: i want to lift my 80 ramcharger 4x4. its got the 360 and headers. id like to put a monstorous lift on it like 5-6 but i was told this would wear out my u-joints so fast that i would be buying them in bulk. any truth to that i re-considered and a 2-3 lift will do any higher and it wont fit in my garage!. this truck is mostly a wheeling rig. ride comfort unless abolsutley terrible isnt really an issue. niether is gas mileage as this is not a commuter. as of now it sits stock height and the rear leaf springs are sagging pretty badly. i saw that rancho offers an add-a-leaf kit that advertises a 1.5-3 lift. it is rancho # rs60612. should i have the leaf springs re-arched while ive got everything taken apart how much will the re-arching cost do i need to lift the front and the back at the same time should i buy the rancho shocks with longer travel any other advice thanks carl .
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From : toxictavrn
hey carl lift kits are a whole story unto themselfs so i l just give you the shortend version i want to lift my 80 ramcharger 4x4. its got the 360 and headers. id like to put a monstorous lift on it like 5-6 but i was told this would wear out my u-joints so fast that i would be buying them in bulk. any truth to that yes helpful solutions use only dana spicer heavy duty u-joints angling the differentials towards the drivetrain will help offset some of the angle that was created this is done with extended shakles and or shims in the rear or shims only in the front i re-considered and a 2-3 lift will do any higher and it wont fit in my garage!. this truck is mostly a wheeling rig. ride comfort unless abolsutley terrible isnt really an issue. niether is gas mileage as this is not a commuter. as of now it sits stock height and the rear leaf springs are sagging pretty badly. i saw that rancho offers an add-a-leaf kit that advertises a 1.5-3 lift. it is rancho # rs60612. should i have the leaf springs re-arched while ive got everything taken apart how much will the re-arching cost forget re-arching if they are already sagging they are worn out already springs are cheap get all new ones well worth it do i need to lift the front and the back at the same time well yes should i buy the rancho shocks with longer travel yes you will need longer travel shocks best way to do this is measure after the lift kit is in measure the static height of the shock mounts thats the measurement as the truck sits normaly from shock bolt hole to shock bolt hole contact rancho and find a set of shocks that has as close as possible extension and compression ranges from this static height measurement example if the shock holes are 25 apart static height finding say a 20 compression and a 30 extension shock will net you 10 of travelassuming nothing else limits suspension travel such as bump stops this helps you maximize your suspension cuz if your shocks dont go up or down far enough your just limiting your off road capability any other advice yes read and research theres tons of stuff to learn about lift kits dos and donts tricks and tips stuff like dropped pitman arms to correct steering geometry etc etc thanks carl shepherds we shall be for thee my lord for thee power hath decended forth from thy hand so our feet may swiftly carry out thy command we shall flow a river forth to thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti .
From : carl saiyed
thanks jim and kelly is the add-a-leaf the way to go do i need to get the extended travel shocks if i get the add a leaf what about the re-arching thanks carl hi carl.... the u-joints could turn into a real problem.... single cardan joints really dont like too much over 3 or 4 defelction. srarting about 4 and higher and youll start to notice a vibration from them that will soon tear them apart. double cardan joints can take about 6 or 7 before the vibes set in. if you run double cardan joints at the t-case you can adjust the pinion angles some to take care of the other part.... of course shorter trucks make for bigger problems. you could go with about a 2 suspension lift and another 2 on the body... ive never done a dodge but i cant see thses numbers offering any big obstacles. hth i want to lift my 80 ramcharger 4x4. its got the 360 and headers. id like to put a monstorous lift on it like 5-6 but i was told this would wear out my u-joints so fast that i would be buying them in bulk. any truth to that i re-considered and a 2-3 lift will do any higher and it wont fit in my garage!. this truck is mostly a wheeling rig. ride comfort unless abolsutley terrible isnt really an issue. niether is gas mileage as this is not a commuter. as of now it sits stock height and the rear leaf springs are sagging pretty badly. i saw that rancho offers an add-a-leaf kit that advertises a 1.5-3 lift. it is rancho # rs60612. should i have the leaf springs re-arched while ive got everything taken apart how much will the re-arching cost do i need to lift the front and the back at the same time should i buy the rancho shocks with longer travel any other advice thanks carl .
From : jim warman
hi carl.... the u-joints could turn into a real problem.... single cardan joints really dont like too much over 3 or 4 defelction. srarting about 4 and higher and youll start to notice a vibration from them that will soon tear them apart. double cardan joints can take about 6 or 7 before the vibes set in. if you run double cardan joints at the t-case you can adjust the pinion angles some to take care of the other part.... of course shorter trucks make for bigger problems. you could go with about a 2 suspension lift and another 2 on the body... ive never done a dodge but i cant see thses numbers offering any big obstacles. hth i want to lift my 80 ramcharger 4x4. its got the 360 and headers. id like to put a monstorous lift on it like 5-6 but i was told this would wear out my u-joints so fast that i would be buying them in bulk. any truth to that i re-considered and a 2-3 lift will do any higher and it wont fit in my garage!. this truck is mostly a wheeling rig. ride comfort unless abolsutley terrible isnt really an issue. niether is gas mileage as this is not a commuter. as of now it sits stock height and the rear leaf springs are sagging pretty badly. i saw that rancho offers an add-a-leaf kit that advertises a 1.5-3 lift. it is rancho # rs60612. should i have the leaf springs re-arched while ive got everything taken apart how much will the re-arching cost do i need to lift the front and the back at the same time should i buy the rancho shocks with longer travel any other advice thanks carl .
From : kellyj
damn jim!!!!!! you married hehehe hi carl.... the u-joints could turn into a real problem.... single cardan joints really dont like too much over 3 or 4 defelction. srarting about 4 and higher and youll start to notice a vibration from them that will soon tear them apart. double cardan joints can take about 6 or 7 before the vibes set in. if you run double cardan joints at the t-case you can adjust the pinion angles some to take care of the other part.... of course shorter trucks make for bigger problems. you could go with about a 2 suspension lift and another 2 on the body... ive never done a dodge but i cant see thses numbers offering any big obstacles. hth i want to lift my 80 ramcharger 4x4. its got the 360 and headers. id like to put a monstorous lift on it like 5-6 but i was told this would wear out my u-joints so fast that i would be buying them in bulk. any truth to that i re-considered and a 2-3 lift will do any higher and it wont fit in my garage!. this truck is mostly a wheeling rig. ride comfort unless abolsutley terrible isnt really an issue. niether is gas mileage as this is not a commuter. as of now it sits stock height and the rear leaf springs are sagging pretty badly. i saw that rancho offers an add-a-leaf kit that advertises a 1.5-3 lift. it is rancho # rs60612. should i have the leaf springs re-arched while ive got everything taken apart how much will the re-arching cost do i need to lift the front and the back at the same time should i buy the rancho shocks with longer travel any other advice thanks carl .
From : demon
youre joking right you dont seriously think 5-6 is monstrous. do you you wouldnt want to check out some of the local trucks from around here calgary ab and theres alot more like those 2 around here. my p.o.s. pickup has 8 under it with a coil conversion in the rear with humvee rims and 42 swampers and its still street legal around here. white knight- robin & theresa 04 ttc competitors http//www.whiteknight.ca/base.htm wolf359- tim 02 ttc competitor http//www.gohumvee.com/ the others speak the truth about driveshafts though also with bad driveline angles comes vvvviiibbbrrraaattttiioons. i want to lift my 80 ramcharger 4x4. its got the 360 and headers. id like to put a monstorous lift on it like 5-6 .
From : redneck tookover hell
calgary ab and theres alot more like those 2 around here. my p.o.s. pickup has 8 under it with a coil conversion in the rear with humvee rims and 42 swampers and its still street legal around here. only reason its street legal is there arent any streets in ab they are all dirt trails!!!!!!!!! eh jim bg politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : milesh
demon wrote youre joking right you dont seriously think 5-6 is monstrous. do you you wouldnt want to check out some of the local trucks from around here calgary ab and theres alot more like those 2 around here. my p.o.s. pickup has 8 under it with a coil conversion in the rear with humvee rims and 42 swampers and its still street legal around here. i have never understood why people lift their trucks to extremes. im talking about the 1-2 foot lifts i see around town. those things could never go off road for serious rock crawling. seems the things would just tip over. guess theyre great for cruising the city streets on a saturday night though. makes about as much sense as the ultra lowered 4x4s. .
From : mac davis
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From : demon
mayby you all are missing the king coilover suspensions. these are not the leaf sprung -worlds scariest crossover steering- tanks you are refering too. and apparently you missed the pics of them on the rocks. just keep in mind we dont have moab rocks here we have the rocky mountains. now fox air shock suspensions are on our scene for some retarded wheel travel in the local buggies. on 14 jun 2004 112304 edt milesh milesh@nounwantedspam.com wrote demon wrote youre joking right you dont seriously think 5-6 is monstrous. do you you wouldnt want to check out some of the local trucks from around here calgary ab and theres alot more like those 2 around here. my p.o.s. pickup has 8 under it with a coil conversion in the rear with humvee rims and 42 swampers and its still street legal around here. i have never understood why people lift their trucks to extremes. im talking about the 1-2 foot lifts i see around town. those things could never go off road for serious rock crawling. seems the things would just tip over. guess theyre great for cruising the city streets on a saturday night though. makes about as much sense as the ultra lowered 4x4s. pretty simple imo milesh... the big lifts are on the shiny trucks that never get off the pavement the 2 to 6 lifts are for the nasty looking trucks that folks take off road and mudding... i always wonder what theyre compensating for with those monster trucks... they look like some kids remote control toy to me.. kind of like the difference between a farmer and a cowboy... the farmer has the bull shit on the outside of his boots.. mac .
From : redneck tookover hell
mayby you all are missing the king coilover suspensions. probably not now fox air shock suspensions are on our scene for some retarded wheel travel in the local buggies. goes right along with the retard behind the wheel politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : demon
youre almost a funny guy. mayby you all are missing the king coilover suspensions. probably not now fox air shock suspensions are on our scene for some retarded wheel travel in the local buggies. goes right along with the retard behind the wheel politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .