Lifetime Warranty!!
From : mike simmons
Q: down here! jmc . 222 337652 20877-46a98df1-1261@storefull-3218.bay.webtv.net i have a 97 dodge dakota i installed dual exhaust and was wanting to know if anyone knew of some simple power mods that can be done to give my weak 3.9 a little more power i saw a spacer that goes between the air intake and the intake manifold in summit catalog that claims a power increase has anyone in here ever installed one of those and recieved the claimed power increase would a hotter ignition coil help maybe thanks ! .
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From : miles
guess we have found the problem then huh thanks for the help! i will try replacing that cable tomorrow.. gosh darn new-fangled copper battry cables ^ let us know how it turns out. .
From : miles
on sun 29 jul 2007 011808 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote you misunderstand. theres shrinkwrap here. theres just no *industrial strength* stuff though. heck theres nothing even normal american strength. its all pretty wimpy stuff. the aluminium foil should be ashamed of itself... got a quick image of trying to wrap my tiny little baby-q grill with one of those rolls of pallet-wrap. jmc no worries... they just call it pallet wrap.. you can get it in sizes from a few inches wide to a foot or so... even putting the grill between 2 sheets of cardboard and using shrink wrap or packing tape around the edges works ok... mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : mike simmons
on sat 28 jul 2007 054037 -0700 thenza@hotmail.com wrote had the van for about 8 months now.. has been working fine. put a few thousand miles on it so far.. one day i went out to drive the thing and now the thing just gives a loud click when you hit the key to start it. i have replaced the negative battery cable service manual said replace if voltage drop is greater than .2 volts. i checked the starter and it works still. i tested the relay -- it works. when i went to test the ignition switch i got a small amount of voltage on one of the legs where it says youre supposed to have no voltage with the key in the run position. the switch has been acting up for a while i.e. - the key can be removed while the switch is in the run position.. so im wondering if that little bit of voltage is telling the brain to not crank the engine. does this sound reasonable anyone else had this problem im not eager to go blow $75 on a switch and have it not work. ive removed the switch from the steering column and it is dangling. i took the cover off and used the wiring diagram to figure out which wire triggers the starter relay... jumping power directly to it still only makes the thing click... i would think that it would make the thing crank. but what do i know lol any help would be greatly appreciated. btw - the van has a
From : mike simmons
tried another known good battery in its stead and same click happens. ive turned the engine about 60 degrees with my hands so im fairly certain that it is not locked up and the flywheel is not at a chewn spot. its probably the key cylinder. they are made out of pot metal and they wear out where they activate the switch assembly. beekeep . 222 337709 zazqi.24380$zz2.1648@fe12.phx mike simmons wrote enough already!! the lifetime warranty is designed to do only one thing..... drive consumer sales. warranty costs have little or nothing to do with the decision. yep! same thing with rebates. .
From : chris thompson
it.. thats because they are already selling quite well and youre right. an extra warranty would not increase sales sufficiently on a vehicle thats already selling well. the exact same reason rebates are low or non existant on the same vehicles. lol sorry miles but once again your logic fails! if i were to buy three of these vehicles with the good rebates and then use them for my new business which lets say is a taxi service would i still get the lifetime power train warranty the answer is no because they would be considered fleet vehicles and fleet vehicles are not covered by it. and you would pay considerably less through fleet sales. already discounted. however if you purchased them at normal retail pricing then yes you would get the warranty regardless of how its used. it makes absolutely no sense at all not to cover vehicles because they are selling well because all that would do is significantly reduce those sales and do it for no reason at all. that makes no sense at all. if something is in high demand and selling well then a manufacture is not going to lower the price through rebates nor offer increased warranties. in essense the price goes up not down. youre not in business are you too funny! anyways glad youre done. enough already!! the lifetime warranty is designed to do only one thing..... drive consumer sales. warranty costs have little or nothing to do with the decision. mike . 222 337707 13aome1inlg9l91@corp.super.com in responce to mike simmons s post. i thought everyone should know in a webcast announcement today tom lasorda announced that effective today all new 06 07 and 08 new chrysler vehicles sold at retail will be covered by a lifetime full powertrain warranty. diesels and srts are excluded. more details as they become available.... mike uh lots of arguments as to why they are doing this incentive. witch for the end consumer will be a good deal. but what about the line mechanic you realize that they will probably cut labor rates again on covered items like the engine/driveline man isnt already getting screwed under warranty rates as is hmmm wonder if im the only one that thought of that *tink* ya know what that is right mike -- chris yup! heard it many times... ;^ mike .
From : tbone
tbone wrote its not what i seem to believe miles it is what it is. the fact that they stated fleet and commercial vehicles being excluded regardless of which ones says it all regardless of your ignorance. except your logic is flawed. if it was just high repairs then there would be rebates. they have neither the rebates nor the warranty on the vehicles in question. fleet sales are already discounted and need no further. the sad thing is that rebates have nothing to do with warranties so the only logic failing here is yours. u both are used to increase sales. its not just a coincidence that the vehicles excluded from the warranty are also the exact same vehicles that lack rebates. once again you talk out of your ass. why would any vehicle that could get an increase in sales be excluded with the exception of limited production vehicles. what are you talking about tbone with your absurd logic manufactures should increase rebates and warranties on all vehicles in order to increase sales. youre not a businessman are you the only reason is the cost and these vehicles are excluded for no other reason than the cost to cover them would exceed the increased revenue from the sales increase iow it would cost way to much to do it.. thats because they are already selling quite well and youre right. an extra warranty would not increase sales sufficiently on a vehicle thats already selling well. the exact same reason rebates are low or non existant on the same vehicles. lol sorry miles but once again your logic fails! if i were to buy three of these vehicles with the good rebates and then use them for my new business which lets say is a taxi service would i still get the lifetime power train warranty the answer is no because they would be considered fleet vehicles and fleet vehicles are not covered by it. and you would pay considerably less through fleet sales. already discounted. however if you purchased them at normal retail pricing then yes you would get the warranty regardless of how its used. it makes absolutely no sense at all not to cover vehicles because they are selling well because all that would do is significantly reduce those sales and do it for no reason at all. that makes no sense at all. if something is in high demand and selling well then a manufacture is not going to lower the price through rebates nor offer increased warranties. in essense the price goes up not down. youre not in business are you too funny! anyways glad youre done. .
From : tbone
suddenly without warning mac davis exclaimed 7/28/2007 213 am on fri 27 jul 2007 232757 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote thanks for the tips! no such thing as industrial strength saran wrap here and dont get me started on the extra-wimpy aluminium foil! wish i had a power washer. then i wouldnt be asking! jmc you should be able to find a roll of shrink wrap.. we bought a few extra rolls when we moved because its such handy stuff... http//store.uhaul.com/masterproductdetail.aspxid=102 my wife used to wrap pallets in a warehouse and shes good with this stuff... we wrapped everything from grills and tools to large wall hangings with it and everything came through the move fine.... mac please remove splinters before emailing you misunderstand. theres shrinkwrap here. theres just no *industrial strength* stuff though. heck theres nothing even normal american strength. its all pretty wimpy stuff. the aluminium foil should be ashamed of itself... got a quick image of trying to wrap my tiny little baby-q grill with one of those rolls of pallet-wrap. jmc .
From : miles
of incentives large rebates etc. they also tend to be abused and also cost $$$$$ to repair. then they excluded just about every type of fleet vehicle which also points to cost of repair and dont even try and say that they dont want to increase fleet sales as that makes the factory big $$$$$. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 337689 5h170af3i9b3du1@mid.individual.net suddenly without warning beekeep exclaimed 7/28/2007 642 pm on fri 27 jul 2007 231456 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote suddenly without warning beekeep exclaimed 7/27/2007 904 pm what no kangaroo on the barbie or buffalo ostrich wings got some kanga bangas roo sausages for later in the week. no ostriches here theyre emus jmc i know that! or at least i should. i raise a few emus years ago. the older i get the better my forgetter works! emu tastes very good! beekeep emus ok. i prefer roo though. good stuff and i can buy it at the grocery store even though its a game meat. less fat than chicken so we can eat red meat without the guilt! jmc .
From : miles
go wrong on your 85. this has nothing to do with electronics. this is a basic electrical problem that can happen on any vehicle that doesnt use a hand crank to start the engine. lol true enough.. still the new one is made with thinner gauge metal and loads more plastic.. and the dashboard is right in your face complete with two safety exploders in the dash as well. i didnt have any notable amount of voltage drop between the starter and the positive terminal of the battery... and the resistance of the positive cable was 4 ohms. right now i wish it *was* hand crankable.. . 222 337700 46ac10fa$0$8064$4c368faf@roadrunner.com tbone wrote the dealers here dont stock them because they dont sell are kinda ugly and somewhat expensive. if they were having trouble selling then they would offer rebates and/or warranties. they offer neither. your logic may apply to warranties but not rebates. therefore your logic is flawed as the sprinter has not had much in the way of rebates. they sell plenty as is. tell me tbone why is there no rebate for the srt8 sprinter or cab chassis diesel which are all excluded from this warranty program. no rebates because of high repair costs how exactly does cost of repair apply to what gets a rebate oh thats right it doesnt so what exactly is your point exactly tbone. you seem to believe that the lack of warranties on certain vehicles is because those vehicles are higher repairs and dodge doesnt want to pay the repair costs. its not what i seem to believe miles it is what it is. the fact that they stated fleet and commercial vehicles being excluded regardless of which ones says it all regardless of your ignorance. your logic fails because those exact same vehicles are also excluded from rebates. the sad thing is that rebates have nothing to do with warranties so the only logic failing here is yours. the ones that are excluded from the rebates are typically used in fleet and commercial applications anyway. now that you mention it the diesel rams at the dodge dealer by me are carrying some rebates and are not covered by this warranty. both of which are tools manufactures use to increase sales and are excluded on vehicles that are already selling well. once again you talk out of your ass. why would any vehicle that could get an increase in sales be excluded with the exception of limited production vehicles. the only reason is the cost and these vehicles are excluded for no other reason than the cost to cover them would exceed the increased revenue from the sales increase iow it would cost way to much to do it.. while you are correct that this new warranty is set up to boost sales you are incorrect and foolish to think that the vehicles excluded from this warranty are excluded because they are selling enough of them already. that is just too funny. your logic fails because those same vehicles also lack rebates where as all the ones with the warranty also have good rebates. lol sorry miles but once again your logic fails! if i were to buy three of these vehicles with the good rebates and then use them for my new business which lets say is a taxi service would i still get the lifetime power train warranty the answer is no because they would be considered fleet vehicles and fleet vehicles are not covered by it. if their sales were poor then they would have rebates comparable to other vehicles. they dont. coincidence that the vehicles with little to no rebates are the ones that are excluded pretty much because even the vehicles that normally would be covered under private use are not if the vehicle is used for fleet or commercial use. the ones that are not covered at all are not because they are typically pushed harder or subject to more abuse than the other vehicles they sell and will probably require much more service work over a much shorter period of time. sorry miles but as usual your arguments hold no water. even your own points support me more than you such as with the sprinter. it makes absolutely no sense at all not to cover vehicles because they are selling well because all that would do is significantly reduce those sales and do it for no reason at all. you can continue arguing and making yourself look like an idiot but im done here. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
on jul 28 153 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote checked the starter and it works still. i tested the relay -- it how exactly did you check the starter is it the click of the relay youre hearing or the louder clunk of the solenoid on the starter if its the solenoid youre hearing then the only problems could be the positive cable from the battery to the starter or the starter itself. actually i took the old starter out and brought it to the store and they tested it... it spun up but was drawing about twice the amperage it was supposed to.. i went ahead and bought a brand new not reman. starter. put the darned thing on and same click of the solenoid on the starter. so i know its not the starter.. lol for grins i took the old starter apart and the solenoid is pretty worn almost to where it wont work any more but it would still work in a pinch or if i renewed the solenoid now - if youre just hearing the starter relay clicking and no action on the starter solenoid id check the small +12v wire to the solenoid and measure there for voltage when trying to crank. if you dont have any voltage there troubleshoot the wiring and/or starter relay. if you do have voltage there id suspect a bad solenoid. i have not checked the trigger wire for voltage at the starter end but i do feel the starter relay click as well as the solenoid when i hit the key so im assuming its getting battery voltage. so im wondering if that little bit of voltage is telling the brain to not crank the engine. does this sound reasonable anyone else had this problem im not eager to go blow $75 on a switch and have it not work. i dont think youre looking at a bad switch. does everything else power up with the switch in the run position radio blower motor wipers etc. if if does you can leave the switch in the run position pull the starter relay and jumper the terminals in the relay socket that match up to the relay terminals labelled #30 and #87. this will energize the solenoid which should then energize the starter motor. if that works but i doubt it will since you said you hear something when turning the key to start but if it does you then either have a problem with the switch or a possible grounding problem. i chased a similar problem on a friends 98 that turned out to be a loose ground at the engine one of the power steering pump bolts provides a grounding location for the wiring harness. everything does come on when in the run position.. i have not tried jumpering the wires where the starter relay plugs in... i will try that... what really stinks is that i have the factory service manual for this piece of poop and it still hasnt helped me find the problem! gives me great confidence in the dodge dealership here... when i went to buy the negative batt. cable i heard the service manager telling someone they couldnt find the problem with your car maam but we went ahead and replaced the battery anyway... to the tune of $150 plus $50 to drop it in the cavity. its too bad the manual tranny bailed on my 85 dodge van... that thing was so much nicer to deal with slant six with 75 carb and ignition.. one of these days im going to pull that one apart fix it and ditch this new piece of crap! .
From : miles
i need a replacement dipstick for a 5.2l magnum in a 1994 ram 1500 4x4. i have found one for the 318 non-magnum engine but didnt buy it yet as im not sure if it will fit. anyone know for sure the dipstick tube is also included but im not planning on replacing that if i dont have to. thanks for any help. .
From : tbone
a rebate or discount apply to warranty coverage. oh thats right once again it doesnt so what exactly is your point oh thats right you dont have one and just like to argue. while you are correct that this new warranty is set up to boost sales you are incorrect and foolish to think that the vehicles excluded from this warranty are excluded because they are selling enough of them already. that is just too funny. they are excluded because the cost to cover them with this warranty would exceed the increased revenue from the added sales it could create. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 337692 ixlqi.1375$xx1.160@fe09.phx tbone wrote you are kidding right!!! i have yet to see a single sprinter on the road around here why would they not want to sell more of them depends on your area. around here sprinters are everywhere. heavily used for cargo couriers and resort shuttles. dealers cant keep them in stock and have backlogs of orders. they also tend to be abused and also cost $$$$$ to repair. then they excluded just about every type of fleet vehicle which also points to cost of repair and dont even try and say that they dont want to increase fleet sales as that makes the factory big $$$$$. tell me tbone why is there no rebate for the srt8 sprinter or cab chassis diesel which are all excluded from this warranty program. no rebates because of high repair costs .
From : miles
what are the restrictions on this warranty iow does all of the service and maintenance need to be done at the dealer or can the owners still do most of it themselves -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving in a webcast announcement today tom lasorda announced that effective today all new 06 07 and 08 new chrysler vehicles sold at retail will be covered by a lifetime full powertrain warranty. diesels and srts are excluded. more details as they become available.... mike pretty straightforward really..... covers the original purchaser who takes delivery on or after 7/26... not transferable even to another family member or business excluded vehicles are diesels srts cab&chassis vehicles rental government postal police ambulance taxi limo and tight-assed beekeeps residing in the state of maryland. covers engine block and all internal parts cylinder heads timing case timing chain timing belt gears and sprockets vibration damper oil pump water pump and housing intake and exhaust manifolds flywheel and starter ring gear freeze plugs valve covers oil pan turbocharger and internal parts turbo wastgate actuator supercharger serpentine belt tensioner and seals and gaskets for above components. transmission case and all internal parts torque converter flex plate range switch tcm bell housing oil pan and seals and gaskets for above. fwd transaxle case axle shaft assemblies cv joints and boots diff cover oil pan speed sensors shift solenoid prndl switch tcm torque converter and seals and gaskets for above awd ptu and all internal parts viscous coupler axle housing and all internal parts cv joints and boots output bearing vacuum motor torque tube seals and gaskets for above rwd axle housing and all internal parts axle shafts shaft bearings drive shaft center bearing u-joints and yokes seals and gaskets for above 4wd transfer case and internal parts tccm and shift motirs axle shafts bearings drive shafts center bearing u-joints and yokes seals and gaskets in the interest of brevity i have omitted some of the minor components all in all a pretty good deal... btw no time limit has been specified for this program mike .
From : tbone
it sounds like you have a bad starter. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving had the van for about 8 months now.. has been working fine. put a few thousand miles on it so far.. one day i went out to drive the thing and now the thing just gives a loud click when you hit the key to start it. i have replaced the negative battery cable service manual said replace if voltage drop is greater than .2 volts. i checked the starter and it works still. i tested the relay -- it works. when i went to test the ignition switch i got a small amount of voltage on one of the legs where it says youre supposed to have no voltage with the key in the run position. the switch has been acting up for a while i.e. - the key can be removed while the switch is in the run position.. so im wondering if that little bit of voltage is telling the brain to not crank the engine. does this sound reasonable anyone else had this problem im not eager to go blow $75 on a switch and have it not work. ive removed the switch from the steering column and it is dangling. i took the cover off and used the wiring diagram to figure out which wire triggers the starter relay... jumping power directly to it still only makes the thing click... i would think that it would make the thing crank. but what do i know lol any help would be greatly appreciated. btw - the van has a new battery that is a couple months old. i also tried another known good battery in its stead and same click happens. ive turned the engine about 60 degrees with my hands so im fairly certain that it is not locked up and the flywheel is not at a chewn spot. .
From : miles
on fri 27 jul 2007 231456 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote suddenly without warning beekeep exclaimed 7/27/2007 904 pm on fri 27 jul 2007 185324 +0930 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus wrote hubbys off on a business trip. weather suddenly decided to get warm its still winter here - equivalent of late january- but it topped 80f today. consoled myself by cooking up these awesome marinated bbq chicken wings from the butcher down the street with a big ol portobello mushroom. next on the grill barramundi a really tasty deep-sea fish and corn-on-the-cob. jmc what no kangaroo on the barbie or buffalo ostrich wings beekeep got some kanga bangas roo sausages for later in the week. no ostriches here theyre emus jmc i know that! or at least i should. i raise a few emus years ago. the older i get the better my forgetter works! emu tastes very good! beekeep .
From : nosey
there is really not much that you can do to that engine to increase its power. im not sure if there is a power programmer available for that engine but if there is that is just about the only simple but not cheap method that i am aware of for that engine. as for those spacers with todays computer controlled fuel injected engines unless there is a flaw in the design of the intake manifold to begin with they have little to no effect. now if you want real power you could always super or turbo charge it and there may be a supercharger kit available for that engine. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i have a 97 dodge dakota i installed dual exhaust and was wanting to know if anyone knew of some simple power mods that can be done to give my weak 3.9 a little more power i saw a spacer that goes between the air intake and the intake manifold in summit catalog that claims a power increase has anyone in here ever installed one of those and recieved the claimed power increase would a hotter ignition coil help maybe thanks ! .
From : kyhighlander
mike simmons wrote in a webcast announcement today tom lasorda announced that effective today all new 06 07 and 08 new chrysler vehicles sold at retail will be covered by a lifetime full powertrain warranty. diesels and srts are excluded. more details as they become available.... mike i heard back in the early 90s that cummins told dodge they would offer a 300000 mile / 30 year warranty on the engine if dodge would match the offer for the rest of the truck. i guess dc doesnt want to take cummins up on the offer either. -- ken .
From : roy
i use easy-off oven cleaner on mine. spray it down leave it soak for 10-15 minutes and hit it with the garden hose. depending on how thick the black stuff is it may take 2-3 cycles to get it down to metal. an old wire brush really helps scrubbing between applications. life just isnt fair......... the old man leaves and you start cooking out......... geesh... vbg denny i agree with denny and i have used this method on other grills. the baby q however has a cast grille made of which may not handle the caustic lye of easy off. what i would do is to turn the grill on high and let it heat up for about 10 minutes and then brush it real good with a steel wire brush. after it cools wrap it in industrial strength saran wrap and put it back in the grille and it should ship ok. if the grill is cast iron which it may be.... check it with a magnet then the easy off wont hurt it. i have used my power washer on mine before with good results. have fun in oz. mike ok im gonna do something really sexist as perhaps the only one in here with two x chromosomes g assume because this place is full of guys with trucks its also full of guys with grills im the griller in the family must be the same gene that makes me a geek girl who likes trucks. the grill part of my baby q is getting a bit grody. i dont really mind for now - i have my grill brush and grill stone and grill scrapers - but when i get ready to ship it itll need to be shiny clean. so id like to keep the layers of crud down a bit to make it easier when the time comes. what works best to clean a grill back down to something resembling its original unused cleanness thanks for any replies! hubbys off on a business trip. weather suddenly decided to get warm its still winter here - equivalent of late january- but it topped 80f today. consoled myself by cooking up these awesome marinated bbq chicken wings from the butcher down the street with a big ol portobello mushroom. next on the grill barramundi a really tasty deep-sea fish and corn-on-the-cob. if youre a grill lover emigrate to australia. you never have to worry about the weather and they love grilling so much that its part of the holidays. turkey for christmas nah! its summer here heats the house up too much. seafood on the barbie is the traditional xmas fare down here! jmc .
From : denny
ok im gonna do something really sexist as perhaps the only one in here with two x chromosomes g assume because this place is full of guys with trucks its also full of guys with grills im the griller in the family must be the same gene that makes me a geek girl who likes trucks. the grill part of my baby q is getting a bit grody. i dont really mind for now - i have my grill brush and grill stone and grill scrapers - but when i get ready to ship it itll need to be shiny clean. so id like to keep the layers of crud down a bit to make it easier when the time comes. what works best to clean a grill back down to something resembling its original unused cleanness thanks for any replies! hubbys off on a business trip. weather suddenly decided to get warm its still winter here - equivalent of late january- but it topped 80f today. consoled myself by cooking up these awesome marinated bbq chicken wings from the butcher down the street with a big ol portobello mushroom. next on the grill barramundi a really tasty deep-sea fish and corn-on-the-cob. if youre a grill lover emigrate to australia. you never have to worry about the weather and they love grilling so much that its part of the holidays. turkey for christmas nah! its summer here heats the house up too much. seafood on the barbie is the traditio
From : mike simmons
i use easy-off oven cleaner on mine. spray it down leave it soak for 10-15 minutes and hit it with the garden hose. depending on how thick the black stuff is it may take 2-3 cycles to get it down to metal. an old wire brush really helps scrubbing between applications. life just isnt fair......... the old man leaves and you start cooking out......... geesh... vbg denny ok im gonna do something really sexist as perhaps the only one in here with two x chromosomes g assume because this place is full of guys with trucks its also full of guys with grills im the griller in the family must be the same gene that makes me a geek girl who likes trucks. the grill part of my baby q is getting a bit grody. i dont really mind for now - i have my grill brush and grill stone and grill scrapers - but when i get ready to ship it itll need to be shiny clean. so id like to keep the layers of crud down a bit to make it easier when the time comes. what works best to clean a grill back down to something resembling its original unused cleanness thanks for any replies! hubbys off on a business trip. weather suddenly decided to get warm its still winter here - equivalent of late january- but it topped 80f today. consoled myself by cooking up these awesome marinated bbq chicken wings from the butcher down the street with a big ol portobello mushroom. next on the grill barramundi a really tasty deep-sea fish and corn-on-the-cob. if youre a grill lover emigrate to australia. you never have to worry about the weather and they love grilling so much that its part of the holidays. turkey for christmas nah! its summer here heats the house up too much. seafood on the barbie is the traditional xmas fare down here! jmc .