Liberty For Sale
From : max dodge
Q: recently my 98 durango with 360 auto 4x4 started revving up by 200 rpms instantly when on the interstate or pretty much any other speed as long as the cruise control was on. i first thought the transmission was slipping since when the engine revved up so quickly the forward momentum of the vehicle seemed to stop. just like when the engine revved up the transmission would instantly go into neutral. this intermittent problem would end as quickly as it happened and then start again. like every 30 seconds it would happen and then other times it would go for minutes without doing it.. you could just tell by the tachometer and the loss of forward momentun when it happened.. it does not exhibit any problem as long as i manually control the accelerator. so is some sensor going bad somewhere or how can this be fixed theres around 90k miles on this completely stock durango if that matters. ben in tn .
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From : geekboy
theguy@whatever.net wrote 1 no illegal immigrants. large penalties for companies that break the rules. i understand and to a large degree i agree but this is a bit of a mixed bag. not as simple as it should be. yep. 2 environmental policy based scientific evidence made by the government not corporations and lobbyists. youll never get agreement. come on. you never heard of special interest groups lobbying and money i have ... but a true leader knows the issues and can help guide the lawmakers and industry regardless of the snakes. environmental issues have been ignored for the most part. there have been moments ... but overall a piss poort showing by all leadership on this matter. 3 foriegn policy that will regain the respect we once had. when was that craig america simply has to look out for its own interests. i agree. we should look out for ourselves then our allies. let the rest kill themselves. 5 a method or set of laws to keep american jobs in america. not india china ireland and eastern europe. again........how do you do that we are a consumer nation and we buy the least expensive option that we can. we are buying the foriegn made stuff left and right. how do american companies compete then when the cheap labor is over seas do we require that you buy only american made see my other posts to azwiley and miles about incentive based laws. yeah. right. like we control that. to some degree ... we do control it. afterall we are the leaders of the free world. craig c. .
From : stormin mormon
how about a govenment grant hmmm. i thought conservatives were all against government handouts. yet here you are suggesting the government give you one. interesting. george conservative too fat to run too scared to fight im no runner but im more than happy to stand and fight. ken .
From : geekboy
please dont post photos to a text only group. -- this isnt a text only group. pics are welcome anytime.. it is nice to put pics in the subject line so grumpasses dont have to open them if they dont want to. denny .
From : stormin mormon
i thought i was in your killfile . . . nope you claimed to have killfiled me and ended the friendship. i said neither thing nor would i; i can ignore people the old fashioned way will power and maturity. i dont remember it that way but i wont argue about it. aw mike ya know facts and truth arent important to the liberals. depends on what liberal is doing the talking. not really. the liberal agenda is a religion humanism and some follow it more closely . . . more devotedly if you prefer than others but its the same set of lies. i cannot begin to tell you how wrong you are because its clear that you dont appear to have a concept of the wide range of political opinions out there. oh i know the placebo of the masses the political left fosters off on the unsuspecting and unguarded in the disguise of tolerance and such. i also know the laziness of the human mind that prevents one thinking for themself or reading studying learning for oneself. liberalism has squirmed into society biting at every little thing that stands for honesty truth justice and freedom. it has corrupted our thoughts political views to where if you can justify darn near any action then its to be accepted. so i reject those poisons to society i reject tolerance of that which is evil in the sight of god. i choose to follow a higher standard than mans and for it i am considered to be in the wrong. thats normal. they feed on rumor lies and unproven theories. it certainly wont matter that most if not all the information that g.w. had to work with was from clintons administration. actually its been widely known for some time now that bush ignored the clinton administration advisors on this issue. advisors yes but the evidence scott evidence is what i speak of. bush ignored the evidence until september 11th 2001. why didnt clinton act upon that evidence why did he continue top weaken our armed forces it doesnt matter that the reason were short of military staff is because of the base closings and personel reductions by the liberal congress. except the liberal congress was gone in 1992 and the new version of that congress hasnt convened yet. which administration ordered all the closings some slated for after the administration change ok which will it be administration or congress next you should be aware that base closings have nothing to do with the size of our military in terms of troop strength. really where you gonna stack up all those soldiers and sailors for storage for training what about their equipment ships come on scott youre being dumber than t-bone about this. furthermore the base closings were recommended by the armed services committee and the base closing study/committee dont recall the specific name for it at this time. this committee has been active since the 1980s. lastly if you read up on the orders from bush to close bases in pa youll realize that a republican president ordered the closings based on a recommendation from a republican filled committee and a democratic governor rendell looked seriously at filing suit to keep those bases open due to the jobs that would be lost. and after all of that it still has nothing to do with the iraq issue. what party was in charge of the congress during that time period how many of those congressmen were on that committee and or had influence on it come on scott youre slipping. it dont matter that they lied to the us citizenry to get the majoritry in the congress back. wait how can a liberal congress get the majority back duh!!! they lied to get their seats back so as to regain the majority of power. if they were the majority how would they need to get the majority back sorry budd you are making no sense here. i am but youre not reading it right congress has democrat leadership congress loses democrat leadership democrats lie cheat steal etc. to get leadership back. its the liberal way scott. republicans have controlled both houses since 1992 until 2006. thus all the decisions you blame on a liberal congress were made by republicans. ill freely say that i believe the reps and dems are becoming the opposite of what they were over the past half century but what you are claiming isnt based on my theory. i dont give a darn about your theory. id still need a couple bucks with you theory to by a cup of coffee. ok so you dont see what im saying fine. dont accuse me of being close minded again. get back to me when you have a clearer idea who was in charge over the past 15 years. pompous are we now shove it. all that matter to liberals is how they can ruin a good country and profit from the destruction by getting the government to take care of them from womb if theyre not aborted to grave. all i have to say to the above is halliburton. all i have to say ive said. and its still clear as mud. obviously it is to you. pomposity cause
From : stormin mormon
roy wrote thats what pisses me off there has been no effective plan. that place has been in a civil war for months everybody with a brain seems to be able to grasp rhis but gw. he does as well. lets hope a better plan of action can be developed. ponder the following article http//tinyurl.com/y8hv74 how do you deal with such childishness turn the other cheek is a foreign concept to them. whatever else saddam was he took his punishment like a man. he was ruthless enough to keep these factions at bay political correctness bs is nothing to them. they make the arguments between hard line right and left wingers look like childrens spats. here even most of the wackiest left and right wingers can usually hold their tongues upon the death of a former leader. no form of leadership were tolerant of here is going to work in iraq. i think what you have to remember with these people is that religion is government to them it cant be separated. you can have all the elections you like the candidates are all interchangable nothing will change. so whats your answer oh wise ones cut and run or stay with a new plan what plan do you think might work debate the past with someone else the only way is forward. .
From : denny
on dec 31 751 pm mike simmons mike...@yhti.net wrote still waiting for your evidence of a lie. im still waiting for evidence of wmd and the tie between al qaeda and iraq. where are they mike if you will recall at the beginning i asked for your proof which has not been forthcoming.... i guess because you havent any as i originally suspected. i find it amusing and illuminating that in an earlier post you said.... did bush intentionally mislead the public so he could drum up support for this war. yes he did. as azwiley indicated some of the evidence that he used to go into war was not evidence at all. it was a belief. so by your thinking bush had no evidence but was acting only on his belief which is a no-no... right but then just a paragraph or two down you come back with..... mike i have no desire to fight anyone about anything. i also have no desire to see lies perpetrated. i *believe* that bush intentionally misled i.e. lied to the american public and to the world about just how dangerous the iraqi regime was sooo.... if bush acts on a belief that is a no-no but your belief without evidence on the other hand is perfectly ok. your double standard is remarkable. intentionally misleading = lying on this we agree but show me the evidence that bush intentionally misled the public. unless and until you can im done with you. ive wasted enough time on this idiocy. mike if you do not believe this simple principal then we have nothing to debate. as i said before this will come down to a pissing contest over values. if your values allow you to defend someone that intentionally tells someone one thing when the facts are clearly another thing then perhaps you should be in politics. craig c. .
From : chris thompson
it sure is and bush has sold us out! the liberty i was referencing in the subject is a jeep. oh..when did dodge start making trucks named liberty -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .
From : stormin mormon
on dec 31 159 pm mike simmons mike...@yhti.net wrote where im going is wherever the op wants to go. you gave me the out ... not the op. if he insists that bush lied i can and will prove him to be the fool he is. first of all what is a lie a lie is an intentional untruth. secondly and the crux of the matter acting on faulty intelligence and deliberately promoting a falsehood are two entirely different things. agreed. if he truly believes and i think he doesnt that bush lied then he has a hell of a lot of company because clinton kerry albright et al lied right along with him. no argument there. but to make a statement that bush lied when clearly he didnt well now that depends on your definition of a lie then doesnt it my values wont allow me to split hairs about lying. doesnt matter whether its a white lie a green lie or a black lie ... a lie is a lie. did bush intentionally mislead the public so he could drum up support for this war. yes he did. as azwiley indicated some of the evidence that he used to go into war was not evidence at all. it was a belief. that is why i gave him an out. an opportunity to reconsider his position before he destroys any credibility he once had. mike i have no desire to fight anyone about anything. i also have no desire to see lies perpetrated. i *believe* that bush intentionally misled i.e. lied to the american public and to the world about just how dangerous the iraqi regime was. the evidence that i have access to supports that belief. so unless you are privy to information that i am not this will come down to a pissing contest about values. so how about this im going to let you decide how much credibility gets lost here. craig c. still waiting for your evidence of a lie. mike .
From : craig c
at 1159pm est saddam hussein was hung to death!!!!!!!!! so i guess those of you that think that gw is and has been doing the right thing in the desert support his idea of sending 20000 to 30000 more troops in. would that be a correct guess roy hell no man i never supported that piece of shit bush and damn sure will never suppose this bullshit war. i am however very gald that saddam is dead he was a very sick and twisted bastard. shall we no forget he used mustard gas on the kurds just because he could. i know where you stand larry. it is the others i am curious about. i sorta tagged onto your op. sorta sad that it comes down to liberal conservatives and any other name ya care to use. we are americans who imo find that our leaders have fucked the pooch and now are trying to save face. gerry ford if he had said publicly his feelings when he gave the interview who know what weight it would have carried then. gotta support a policey no matter how flawed. easy to do i guess when ya arent the one being shot at. havent we learned anything from vn roy gothcha man roy .
From : chris thompson
i thought i was in your killfile . . . nope you claimed to have killfiled me and ended the friendship. i said neither thing nor would i; i can ignore people the old fashioned way will power and maturity. aw mike ya know facts and truth arent important to the liberals. depends on what liberal is doing the talking. not really. the liberal agenda is a religion humanism and some follow it more closely . . . more devotedly if you prefer than others but its the same set of lies. i cannot begin to tell you how wrong you are because its clear that you dont appear to have a concept of the wide range of political opinions out there. they feed on rumor lies and unproven theories. it certainly wont matter that most if not all the information that g.w. had to work with was from clintons administration. actually its been widely known for some time now that bush ignored the clinton administration advisors on this issue. advisors yes but the evidence scott evidence is what i speak of. bush ignored the evidence until september 11th 2001. it doesnt matter that the reason were short of military staff is because of the base closings and personel reductions by the liberal
From : miles
on dec 31 159 pm mike simmons mike...@yhti.net wrote where im going is wherever the op wants to go. you gave me the out ... not the op. if he insists that bush lied i can and will prove him to be the fool he is. first of all what is a lie a lie is an intentional untruth. secondly and the crux of the matter acting on faulty intelligence and deliberately promoting a falsehood are two entirely different things. agreed. if he truly believes and i think he doesnt that bush lied then he has a hell of a lot of company because clinton kerry albright et al lied right along with him. no argument there. but to make a statement that bush lied when clearly he didnt well now that depends on your definition of a lie then doesnt it my values wont allow me to split hairs about lying. doesnt matter whether its a white lie a green lie or a black lie ... a lie is a lie. did bush intentionally mislead the public so he could drum up support for this war. yes he did. as azwiley indicated some of the evidence that he used to go into war was not evidence at all. it was a belief. that is why i gave him an out. an opportunity to reconsider his position before he destroys any credibility he once had. mike i have no desire to fight anyone about anything. i also have no desire to see lies perpetrated. i *believe* that bush intentionally misled i.e. lied to the american public and to the world about just how dangerous the iraqi regime was. the evidence that i have access to supports that belief. so unless you are privy to information that i am not this will come down to a pissing contest about values. so how about this im going to let you decide how much credibility gets lost here. craig c. .
From : max dodge
observer article 9/march/1997 fame at last! in an alleged book review in the observer books p16 jay rayner writes about a man called bob one of my many pseudonyms in whom a lot of people have shown an interest. read and ponder! perhaps the chinese curse may you live in interesting times could be re-worded into may you be considered an interesting person. infamy infamy theyve all got it in for me! 1143 -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
From : chris thompson
except the liberal congress was gone in 1992 and the new version of that congress hasnt convened yet. which administration ordered all the closings some slated for after the administration change ok which will it be administration or congress next you should be aware that base closings have nothing to do with the size of our military in terms of troop strength. furthermore the base closings were recommended by the armed services committee and the base closing study/committee dont recall the specific name for it at this time. this committee has been active since the 1980s. lastly if you read up on the orders from bush to close bases in pa youll realize that a republican president ordered the closings based on a recommendation from a republican filled committee and a democratic governor rendell looked seriously at filing suit to keep those bases open due to the jobs that would be lost. and after all of that it still has nothing to do with the iraq issue. it dont matter that they lied to the us citizenry to get the majoritry in the congress back. wait how can a liberal congress get the majority back duh!!! they lied to get their seats back so as to regain the majority of power. if they were the majority how would they need to get the majority back sorry budd you are making no sense here. republicans have controlled both houses since 1992 until 2006. thus all the decisions you blame on a liberal congress were made by republicans. ill freely say that i believe the reps and dems are becoming the opposite of what they were over the past half century but what you are claiming isnt based on my theory. get back to me when you have a clearer idea who was in charge over the past 15 years. all that matter to liberals is how they can ruin a good country and profit from the destruction by getting the government to take care of them from womb if theyre not aborted to grave. all i have to say to the above is halliburton. all i have to say ive said. and its still clear as mud. and that i am fascinated by the rabid bullshit that both extreme left and extreme right can come up with. therein lies the real problem with this country. and im fascinated you think that at all. werent you one of those screaming about accepting diversity um no..... and diversity has nothing to do with this issue so where are ya going on this i have the right to think as i wish like you and you have the right to be wrong like i have been at times. this aint one of them. i assure you if you check the history books youll find that the liberal congress of which you speak does not exist. thus this is one of them. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author . 222 326987 klfgp2l99m6fdobmlds3q9v4hi0h0v1vge@4ax.com on sun 31 dec 2006 170214 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 31 dec 2006 150234 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote at 1159pm est saddam hussein was hung to death!!!!!!!!! so i guess those of you that think that gw is and has been doing the right thing in the desert support his idea of sending 20000 to 30000 more troops in. would that be a correct guess roy hell no man i never supported that piece of shit bush and damn sure will never suppose this bullshit war. i am however very gald that saddam is dead he was a very sick and twisted bastard. shall we no forget he used mustard gas on the kurds just because he could. i know where you stand larry. it is the others i am curious about. i sorta tagged onto your op. sorta sad that it comes down to liberal conservatives and any other name ya care to use. we are americans who imo find that our leaders have fucked the pooch and now are trying to save face. gerry ford if he had said publicly his feelings when he gave the interview who know what weight it would have carried then. gotta support a policey no matter how flawed. easy to do i guess when ya arent the one being shot at. havent we learned anything from vn some but not enough. vn was aslo won in the papers and not in the field roy. huh i disagree with ya there. vn was won in the field and lost in the papers imo. it simply amazes me how many of you know so much more than the military leaders and so much more than gw. i guess if the military leader and not the pols making the descions id be more comfortable. the facts are that we did go into iraq and that we did topple an evil regime. you can debate it all you want that part is over guys. whether or not wmds were in iraq or not is really just fodder for old guys sitting around their computers showing their intellect. we went we fought and now we have to decide what comes next in this war. you all got a whole lot of ideas about what not to do.............what idea
From : geekboy
on sun 31 dec 2006 150234 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote at 1159pm est saddam hussein was hung to death!!!!!!!!! so i guess those of you that think that gw is and has been doing the right thing in the desert support his idea of sending 20000 to 30000 more troops in. would that be a correct guess roy hell no man i never supported that piece of shit bush and damn sure will never suppose this bullshit war. i am however very gald that saddam is dead he was a very sick and twisted bastard. shall we no forget he used mustard gas on the kurds just because he could. i know where you stand larry. it is the others i am curious about. i sorta tagged onto your op. sorta sad that it comes down to liberal conservatives and any other name ya care to use. we are americans who imo find that our leaders have fucked the pooch and now are trying to save face. gerry ford if he had said publicly his feelings when he gave the interview who know what weight it would have carried then. gotta support a policey no matter how flawed. easy to do i guess when ya arent the one being shot at. havent we learned anything from vn some but not enough. vn was aslo won in the papers and not in the field roy. huh i disagree with ya there. vn was won in the field and lost in the papers imo. it simply amazes me how many of you know so much more than the military leaders and so much more than gw. i guess if the military leader and not the pols making the descions id be more comfortable. the facts are that we did go into iraq and that we did topple an evil regime. you can debate it all you want that part is over guys. whether or not wmds were in iraq or not is really just fodder for old guys sitting around their computers showing their intellect. we went we fought and now we have to decide what comes next in this war. you all got a whole lot of ideas about what not to do.............what ideas do you all have about what we should do seeing as you ask. if we are going to keep boots on the ground then disarm the motherfuckers!!! it would seem that every friggin raghead has a ak47 1000 rounds and a couple of rpgs. and they are useing them on our troops. if you get incoming from anywhere you take it out! i dont give a fuck if it is coming from a relgious building a hospital or a friggin school light them the hell up!! ya have to take the restrictions off our troops! screw public opinion it is our people that are being killed. turn them loose. some of you would have us crawl back home and just leave all the problems to the next generation to solve. i dont know maybe thats not a bad idea. maybe they would be more willing to do what needs to be done than the baby boomers. the fabric of this country has changed i think and not for the better. you live in a global fucking world. you cant ignore the middle east. you want to whine about the death now...........where were you when the iraq regime was murdering its woman children and civilians and they were calling for help those deaths were ok those deaths pale when you look at cambodia hell pick a country in africa. we whave been turning our heads the other way for years. .
From : denny
roy wrote thats what pisses me off there has been no effective plan. that place has been in a civil war for months everybody with a brain seems to be able to grasp rhis but gw. he does as well. lets hope a better plan of action can be developed. however what you and i see is only what the media wants you to see. which for the most part is a bomb or death of the day report. the media never reports on anything of good thats has gone on. recently a group of parents who lost sons or daughters in iraq traveled there to learn first hand how their children died. while they didnt make it as far as they wanted do to the war they did make it to northern iraq. there they met with many iraqis on the street. they as well as soldiers in the area were treated as heros. they were routinely thanked for their sacrifices and asked them to bring back the real stories of whats happening rather than only one side reported by the media. yes a better plan is certainly needed but the medias reporting of current activity is deplorable. .
From : geekboy
on dec 31 751 pm mike simmons mike...@yhti.net wrote still waiting for your evidence of a lie. im still waiting for evidence of wmd and the tie between al qaeda and iraq. where are they mike intentionally misleading = lying if you do not believe this simple principal then we have nothing to debate. as i said before this will come down to a pissing contest over values. if your values allow you to defend someone that intentionally tells someone one thing when the facts are clearly another thing then perhaps you should be in politics. craig c. .
From : azwiley1
i think the air pumped just seized today on my dakota squealing belts smoke neighbour looking at me and laughing wife asking me why i dont buy a new truck -- the works -- the thing aint spinning. ok its almost 20 years old. i havent taken the pump off yet. do they just go yes they sure do happened to me as well on my 82 waiting in a drive through.. was there some sort of maintenance i could have done to prevent this no theyre maintenance free. can i fix/rebuild it or should i just swap it for a re-conditioned unit just swap it out with a reman theyre cheap. thx. happy new year. .
From : craig c
at 1159pm est saddam hussein was hung to death!!!!!!!!! so i guess those of you that think that gw is and has been doing the right thing in the desert support his idea of sending 20000 to 30000 more troops in. would that be a correct guess roy .