Liberty CRD Advice
From : craig c
Q: chris or anyone that would like to chime in my significant other bought a used liberty last night. 2006 liberty limited 4x4 crd 2.8 i4. it has 25000 miles on it. since my truck is ready for the oil diff tranny and transfer case fluid changes i figured i would take care of her liberty at the same time. i have not had a chance to peek at the manual yet but i thought i would see if you had any advice or recommendations. for example the gaskets/seals on the diffs and tranny of my dodge are the reusable kind. is the liberty setup the same way how about the fuel filter easy to change im sure it has never been changed ... the oil in it is 10w-30 which maybe correct but i was under the impression that 5w-40 or 15w-40 was the oil to use in all diesels. tia craig c. .
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From : big al
the oil in it is 10w-30 which maybe correct but i was under the impression that 5w-40 or 15w-40 was the oil to use in all diesels. tia craig c careful with all and never. some diesels do not use 15w-40. the old gm 6.2 was one. use what the manufacturer recommends. al .
From : craig c
big al wrote careful with all and never. some diesels do not use 15w-40. thanks for the advice al. of course i will read the manual before doing any fluid changes. i was really interested more in the tranny and diffs. i just thought it was odd for a diesel to have 10w-30 in it. the old gm 6.2 was one. use what the manufacturer recommends. was that a real diesel or one of gms failed attempts at converting a gasser craig c. .
From : chris thompson
on thu 17 may 2007 093612 -0500 craig c. wrote chris or anyone that would like to chime in my significant other bought a used liberty last night. 2006 liberty limited 4x4 crd 2.8 i4. it has 25000 miles on it. as does mine..ill give you a warning though 5000 and its time for a fuel filter. those arent cheap! $50 give or take is what our local dealer wants for them and last i checked aftermarket parts houses hadnt picked them up yet. ouch!!!!! since my truck is ready for the oil diff tranny and transfer case fluid changes i figured i would take care of her liberty at the same time. havent done mine yet but its a 545rfe trans so it should be the same gasket transfer case should be a drain plug and id suspect the rear diff to use rtv like most of the other chrysler axles ive worked on. i have not had a chance to peek at the manual yet but i thought i would see if you had any advice or recommendations. nor have i on diff/axle/transfer case interval recommendations i was going to go with the standard 30k interval myself. for example the gaskets/seals on the diffs and tranny of my dodge are the reusable kind. is the liberty setup the same way how about the fuel filter easy to change im sure it has never been changed ... the fuel filter is a screw on canister has a water in fuel sensor that screws into the bottom. not easiest to get to but ive done much worse. its really cramped under that hood. youll find your fuel filter next to the brake booster. just remember what i said about the price sheesh! the oil in it is 10w-30 which maybe correct but i was under the impression that 5w-40 or 15w-40 was the oil to use in all diesels. i run rotella 15w40 in mine. buy it the same time as i do the stuff for the big truck. tia craig c. congratulations on the liberty dude. its a fun little truck with a surprising amount of power. i used it to move my farm tractor one time it done better than i expected as far as getting the tractor moving. but that being i think the heaviest thing im going to stick behind it again is the boat. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : roy
on thu 17 may 2007 093612 -0500 craig c. wrote chris or anyone that would like to chime in my significant other bought a used liberty last night. 2006 liberty limited 4x4 crd 2.8 i4. it has 25000 miles on it. as does mine..ill give you a warning though 5000 and its time for a fuel filter. those arent cheap! $50 give or take is what our local dealer wants for them and last i checked aftermarket parts houses hadnt picked them up yet. ouch!!!!! since my truck is ready for the oil diff tranny and transfer case fluid changes i figured i would take care of her liberty at the same time. havent done mine yet but its a 545rfe trans so it should be the same gasket transfer case should be a drain plug and id suspect the rear diff to use rtv like most of the other chrysler axles ive worked on. i have not had a chance to peek at the manual yet but i thought i would see if you had any advice or recommendations. nor have i on diff/axle/transfer case interval recommendations i was going to go with the standard 30k interval myself. for example the gaskets/seals on the diffs and tranny of my dodge are the reusable kind. is the liberty setup the same way how about the fuel filter easy to change im sure it has never been changed ... the fuel filter is a screw on canister has a water in fuel sensor that screws into the bottom. not easiest to get to but ive done much worse. its really cramped under that hood. youll find your fuel filter next to the brake booster. just remember what i said about the price sheesh! the oil in it is 10w-30 which maybe correct but i was under the impression that 5w-40 or 15w-40 was the oil to use in all diesels. i run rotella 15w40 in mine. buy it the same time as i do the stuff for the big truck. tia craig c. congratulations on the liberty dude. its a fun little truck with a surprising amount of power. i used it to move my farm tractor one time it done better than i expected as far as getting the tractor moving. but that being i think the heaviest thing im going to stick behind it again is the boat. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd hey! i wonder if i can buy one in fl. remember last year i was looking at them in ma and the diesel wasnt compliant well time will have changed big time by this time next year. .
From : craig c
0w-40 is required in the 6.1 in my charger. i went through 1/2 quart on the way down here bought a quart at wally world. how big a fuel tank do they have . 222 335137 nj23i.513$h24.184@svr17..prodigy.net roy wrote how big a fuel tank do they have according to the manual 20.5 u.s. gallons. craig c. .
From : chris thompson
on thu 17 may 2007 151551 -0500 craig c. wrote roy wrote how big a fuel tank do they have according to the manual 20.5 u.s. gallons. craig c. youll have about a 350 mile range or so without getting down into the 1/4 tank range the usual buffer i like to leave -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : chris thompson
on thu 17 may 2007 142337 -0400 roy wrote on thu 17 may 2007 093612 -0500 craig c. wrote chris or anyone that would like to chime in my significant other bought a used liberty last night. 2006 liberty limited 4x4 crd 2.8 i4. it has 25000 miles on it. as does mine..ill give you a warning though 5000 and its time for a fuel filter. those arent cheap! $50 give or take is what our local dealer wants for them and last i checked aftermarket parts houses hadnt picked them up yet. ouch!!!!! since my truck is ready for the oil diff tranny and transfer case fluid changes i figured i would take care of her liberty at the same time. havent done mine yet but its a 545rfe trans so it should be the same gasket transfer case should be a drain plug and id suspect the rear diff to use rtv like most of the other chrysler axles ive worked on. i have not had a chance to peek at the manual yet but i thought i would see if you had any advice or recommendations. nor have i on diff/axle/transfer case interval recommendations i was going to go with the standard 30k interval myself. for example the gaskets/seals on the diffs and tranny of my dodge are the reusable kind. is the liberty setup the same way how about the fuel filter easy to change im sure it has never been changed ... the fuel filter is a screw on canister has a water in fuel sensor that screws into the bottom. not easiest to get to but ive done much worse. its really cramped under that hood. youll find your fuel filter next to the brake booster. just remember what i said about the price sheesh! the oil in it is 10w-30 which maybe correct but i was under the impression that 5w-40 or 15w-40 was the oil to use in all diesels. i run rotella 15w40 in mine. buy it the same time as i do the stuff for the big truck. tia craig c. congratulations on the liberty dude. its a fun little truck with a surprising amount of power. i used it to move my farm tractor one time it done better than i expected as far as getting the tractor moving. but that being i think the heaviest thing im going to stick behind it again is the boat. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd hey! i wonder if i can buy one in fl. remember last year i was looking at them in ma and the diesel wasnt compliant well time will have changed big time by this time next year. im sure you can. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : craig c
chris thompson wrote fuel filter. those arent cheap! $50 give or take is what our local dealer wants for them and last i checked aftermarket parts houses hadnt picked them up yet. ouch!!!!! very ouch! i just called the jeep dealer. $36.85. wix shows that they make it part # 33647 but none of the auto-part stores carry it. havent done mine yet but its a 545rfe trans so it should be the same gasket transfer case should be a drain plug and id suspect the rear diff to use rtv like most of the other chrysler axles ive worked on. parts guy said silicone on the diffs. damn it! those reusable gaskets are great. nor have i on diff/axle/transfer case interval recommendations i was going to go with the standard 30k interval myself. normally i would as well but being used im a bit freaked out about waiting any longer. i run rotella 15w40 in mine. buy it the same time as i do the stuff for the big truck. i think i am just going to use the same oil that i use in my cummins. valvoline premium blue synthetic 5w-40. the manual says to use 0w-40 and if unavailable 5w-40 is acceptable. i dont think ive ever seen 0w-40 but then ive never looked either. congratulations on the liberty dude. its a fun little truck with a surprising amount of power. it does have a surprising amount of staying power on the highway. the best part though on the way back from ft. worth to dallas going down i-20 70 mph ... we got 30.1 mpg. thats awesome. craig c. .
From : roy
on thu 17 may 2007 142337 -0400 roy wrote on thu 17 may 2007 093612 -0500 craig c. wrote chris or anyone that would like to chime in my significant other bought a used liberty last night. 2006 liberty limited 4x4 crd 2.8 i4. it has 25000 miles on it. as does mine..ill give you a warning though 5000 and its time for a fuel filter. those arent cheap! $50 give or take is what our local dealer wants for them and last i checked aftermarket parts houses hadnt picked them up yet. ouch!!!!! since my truck is ready for the oil diff tranny and transfer case fluid changes i figured i would take care of her liberty at the same time. havent done mine yet but its a 545rfe trans so it should be the same gasket transfer case should be a drain plug and id suspect the rear diff to use rtv like most of the other chrysler axles ive worked on. i have not had a chance to peek at the manual yet but i thought i would see if you had any advice or recommendations. nor have i on diff/axle/transfer case interval recommendations i was going to go with the standard 30k interval myself. for example the gaskets/seals on the diffs and tranny of my dodge are the reusable kind. is the liberty setup the same way how about the fuel filter easy to change im sure it has never been changed ... the fuel filter is a screw on canister has a water in fuel sensor that screws into the bottom. not easiest to get to but ive done much worse. its really cramped under that hood. youll find your fuel filter next to the brake booster. just remember what i said about the price sheesh! the oil in it is 10w-30 which maybe correct but i was under the impression that 5w-40 or 15w-40 was the oil to use in all diesels. i run rotella 15w40 in mine. buy it the same time as i do the stuff for the big truck. tia craig c. congratulations on the liberty dude. its a fun little truck with a surprising amount of power. i used it to move my farm tractor one time it done better than i expected as far as getting the tractor moving. but that being i think the heaviest thing im going to stick behind it again is the boat. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd hey! i wonder if i can buy one in fl. remember last year i was looking at them in ma and the diesel wasnt compliant well time will have changed big time by this time next year. im sure you can. i know you can buy a wider selection of handguns here. im slling all my ma compliant guns when i get back. all but the sig 239. i like it tooo much. roy chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : roy
chris thompson wrote fuel filter. those arent cheap! $50 give or take is what our local dealer wants for them and last i checked aftermarket parts houses hadnt picked them up yet. ouch!!!!! very ouch! i just called the jeep dealer. $36.85. wix shows that they make it part # 33647 but none of the auto-part stores carry it. havent done mine yet but its a 545rfe trans so it should be the same gasket transfer case should be a drain plug and id suspect the rear diff to use rtv like most of the other chrysler axles ive worked on. parts guy said silicone on the diffs. damn it! those reusable gaskets are great. nor have i on diff/axle/transfer case interval recommendations i was going to go with the standard 30k interval myself. normally i would as well but being used im a bit freaked out about waiting any longer. i run rotella 15w40 in mine. buy it the same time as i do the stuff for the big truck. i think i am just going to use the same oil that i use in my cummins. valvoline premium blue synthetic 5w-40. the manual says to use 0w-40 and if unavailable 5w-40 is acceptable. i dont think ive ever seen 0w-40 but then ive never looked eithe
From : chris thompson
on thu 17 may 2007 144522 -0500 craig c. wrote chris thompson wrote fuel filter. those arent cheap! $50 give or take is what our local dealer wants for them and last i checked aftermarket parts houses hadnt picked them up yet. ouch!!!!! very ouch! i just called the jeep dealer. $36.85. wix shows that they make it part # 33647 but none of the auto-part stores carry it. havent done mine yet but its a 545rfe trans so it should be the same gasket transfer case should be a drain plug and id suspect the rear diff to use rtv like most of the other chrysler axles ive worked on. parts guy said silicone on the diffs. damn it! those reusable gaskets are great. nor have i on diff/axle/transfer case interval recommendations i was going to go with the standard 30k interval myself. normally i would as well but being used im a bit freaked out about waiting any longer. i run rotella 15w40 in mine. buy it the same time as i do the stuff for the big truck. i think i am just going to use the same oil that i use in my cummins. valvoline premium blue synthetic 5w-40. the manual says to use 0w-40 and if unavailable 5w-40 is acceptable. i dont think ive ever seen 0w-40 but then ive never looked either. congratulations on the liberty dude. its a fun little truck with a surprising amount of power. it does have a surprising amount of staying power on the highway. the best part though on the way back from ft. worth to dallas going down i-20 70 mph ... we got 30.1 mpg. thats awesome. yes we see 30+ on trips keeping her round 65 to 70 we reliably see 23 mpg city and my wife lets it idle a lot craig c. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : craig c
on may 18 235 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote the spin on filter goes to the torque converter iirc and the flat filter is the transmission filter. it has the 545rfe trans. if its not too much trouble could you give me a quick set of instructions on changing the fuel filter. its not at all like the cummins ... regards craig c. .
From : craig c
chris thompson wrote on thu 17 may 2007 151551 -0500 craig c. wrote more on the liberty tranny. interestingly according to the parts guy at the jeep dealership the liberty has a multi-speed transmission and actually has two tranny filters. a flat filter like im use to seeing and a spin on cylinder shaped filter. both of which are inside the pan. sounded weird to me. can anyone else confirm this extra filter and give an explanation why it is needed ill take some pictures of the tranny and diffs as i change them and post them to my website. tia craig c. .
From : chris thompson
on fri 18 may 2007 124540 -0500 craig c. wrote chris thompson wrote on thu 17 may 2007 151551 -0500 craig c. wrote more on the liberty tranny. interestingly according to the parts guy at the jeep dealership the liberty has a multi-speed transmission and actually has two tranny filters. a flat filter like im use to seeing and a spin on cylinder shaped filter. both of which are inside the pan. sounded weird to me. can anyone else confirm this extra filter and give an explanation why it is needed ill take some pictures of the tranny and diffs as i change them and post them to my website. tia craig c. the spin on filter goes to the torque converter iirc and the flat filter is the transmission filter. it has the 545rfe trans. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : tom lawrence
interestingly according to the parts guy at the jeep dealership the liberty has a multi-speed transmission and actually has two tranny filters. a flat filter like im use to seeing and a spin on cylinder shaped filter. both of which are inside the pan. true - though that has nothing to do with the fact that its a multi-speed transmission heck arent all transmissions multi-speed what he was probably trying to say was that it had two 2nd gear ratios - one used for the 1-2 upshift and the other used for the 3-2 downshift.... but again nothing to do with the fact that theres two filters. sounded weird to me. can anyone else confirm this extra filter and give an explanation why it is needed the flat filter sits on the end of the suction line of the pump. its screen sits in the pan and sucks fluid in. the spin-on filter filters out the fluid as its returning to the pan from the cooler. they probably did this so they could use a wider more free-flowing filter in the pickup and a finer filter on the return. its usually easier to push fluid through a filter medium than to pull it. plus this way you keep all the metal slag normal wear of clutch steels out of the pan and keep people from freaking out that their transmission is eating itself. .
From : azwiley1
on may 18 635 pm craig c. mcraig...@gmail.com wrote on may 18 235 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote the spin on filter goes to the torque converter iirc and the flat filter is the transmission filter. it has the 545rfe trans. if its not too much trouble could you give me a quick set of instructions on changing the fuel filter. its not at all like the cummins ... regards craig c. first you get a big hammer! next you get a big pry bar! bg .
From : chris thompson
on sat 19 may 2007 130842 -0700 craig c. wrote on may 19 1035 am chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote you should just unplug the sensor on the bottom of the filter then unscrew it. ive got one on order through our local napa and should be in monday if needed ill get ya a few pics and more detailed instructions when i do mine later next week ive got to work nightshift monday and tuesday i purchased two fuel filters for it today. one from napa and one from the jeep dealer. i always like to keep an extra fuel filter around. while i was at the jeep dealer i asked them to print out the service procedure for changing the filter. they did and id be glad to send it to you if you need it. tomorrow is going to busy. diffs tranny transfer case motor oil and fuel filter changes in both the liberty and the ram. they gave me two different kinds of rtv for the liberty. two orange colored im assuming for the diffs and one black silicone which im guessing is for the tranny pan. craig c. yea if ya dont mind since ya have it there. you can email me directly by removing the -obvious *grin* -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : chris thompson
on fri 18 may 2007 183543 -0700 craig c. wrote on may 18 235 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote the spin on filter goes to the torque converter iirc and the flat filter is the transmission filter. it has the 545rfe trans. if its not too much trouble could you give me a quick set of instructions on changing the fuel filter. its not at all like the cummins ... regards craig c. you should just unplug the sensor on the bottom of the filter then unscrew it. ive got one on order through our local napa and should be in monday if needed ill get ya a few pics and more detailed instructions when i do mine later next week ive got to work nightshift monday and tuesday -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : craig c
on may 19 1035 am chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote you should just unplug the sensor on the bottom of the filter then unscrew it. ive got one on order through our local napa and should be in monday if needed ill get ya a few pics and more detailed instructions when i do mine later next week ive got to work nightshift monday and tuesday i purchased two fuel filters for it today. one from napa and one from the jeep dealer. i always like to keep an extra fuel filter around. while i was at the jeep dealer i asked them to print out the service procedure for changing the filter. they did and id be glad to send it to you if you need it. tomorrow is going to busy. diffs tranny transfer case motor oil and fuel filter changes in both the liberty and the ram. they gave me two different kinds of rtv for the liberty. two orange colored im assuming for the diffs and one black silicone which im guessing is for the tranny pan. craig c. .
From : craig c
on may 19 359 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote yea if ya dont mind since ya have it there. you can email me directly by removing the -obvious *grin* i will get those to you asap. i worked on the liberty today. i got the rear diff fluid changed. then i started on the fuel filter. i couldnt get the damn thing off. after following the instructions disconnecting the electrical wires i was ready to actually remove the filter. too tight to do it by hand. since it very much resembles an oil filter i said to myself self get your filter wrench and take this little bastard off. i really did say this ... outloud. well i have the metal style filter wrench. not enough room to get it onto the filter. im assuming i need a filter wrench that uses the cloth/nylon belt. is that what you have used im worn out and right now ... and the engineer that crammed that fuel filter in that tight space can kiss my skinny white ass. craig c. .
From : roy
chris thompson wrote uh ill look around...brooks may have some. ill let ya know what i come up with. i did some looking around. i could not find a source for a tranny reusable gasket or a front diff gasket selectrak. i did however find a gasket for the corp 8.25 rear diff from lube locker. www.lubelocker.com. of course i already changed the rear diff. so it doesnt do me any good this time. a day late and a dollar short. story of craig. perhaps you can make a gasket. roy - craig c. .
From : craig c
chris thompson wrote uh ill look around...brooks may have some. ill let ya know what i come up with. i did some looking around. i could not find a source for a tranny reusable gasket or a front diff gasket selectrak. i did however find a gasket for the corp 8.25 rear diff from lube locker. www.lubelocker.com. of course i already changed the rear diff. so it doesnt do me any good this time. a day late and a dollar short. story of craig. - craig c. .
From : chris thompson
on sun 20 may 2007 195802 -0700 craig c. wrote on may 19 359 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote yea if ya dont mind since ya have it there. you can email me directly by removing the -obvious *grin* i will get those to you asap. i worked on the liberty today. i got the rear diff fluid changed. then i started on the fuel filter. i couldnt get the damn thing off. after following the instructions disconnecting the electrical wires i was ready to actually remove the filter. too tight to do it by hand. since it very much resembles an oil filter i said to myself self get your filter wrench and take this little bastard off. i really did say this ... outloud. well i have the metal style filter wrench. not enough room to get it onto the filter. im assuming i need a filter wrench that uses the cloth/nylon belt. is that what you have used im worn out and right now ... and the engineer that crammed that fuel filter in that tight space can kiss my skinny white ass. craig c. ive got a set of filter plyers from mac tools i use them on all spin on filters. they really did a shoe horn job with that engine. not sure you could have fit anything bigger in there. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : azwiley1
on may 20 758 pm craig c. mcraig...@gmail.com wrote on may 19 359 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote yea if ya dont mind since ya have it there. you can email me directly by removing the -obvious *grin* i will get those to you asap. i worked on the liberty today. i got the rear diff fluid changed. then i started on the fuel filter. i couldnt get the damn thing off. after following the instructions disconnecting the electrical wires i was ready to actually remove the filter. too tight to do it by hand. since it very much resembles an oil filter i said to myself self get your filter wrench and take this little bastard off. i really did say this ... outloud. well i have the metal style filter wrench. not enough room to get it onto the filter. im assuming i need a filter wrench that uses the cloth/nylon belt. is that what you have used im worn out and right now ... and the engineer that crammed that fuel filter in that tight space can kiss my skinny white ass. craig c. careful what you ask/wish for as there are some in here that might do just that .
From : craig c
on may 20 1029 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote ive got a set of filter plyers from mac tools i use them on all spin on filters. ah. ill look for a set of those. do you know of a source for getting reuseable gaskets for the diffs and tranny rtv sucks. craig c. .
From : chris thompson
on mon 21 may 2007 090910 -0700 craig c. wrote on may 20 1029 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@windstream.net wrote ive got a set of filter plyers from mac tools i use them on all spin on filters. ah. ill look for a set of those. do you know of a source for getting reuseable gaskets for the diffs and tranny rtv sucks. craig c. uh ill look around...brooks may have some. ill let ya know what i come up with. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : craig c
roy wrote perhaps you can make a gasket. how would a mechanically challenged person go about doing this - craig c. .
From : tom lawrence
how would a mechanically challenged person go about doing this get a package of instant gasket add water and stir. or do what roy said.... either way .
From : roy
roy wrote perhaps you can make a gasket. how would a mechanically challenged person go about doing this get some gasket material that is made for the rear end fluid. take the cover clean it up put the cover holes down on the material. trace the outer edge of the cover and the bolt holes. pick up the cover determine the width of the mateing surface center a compass and draw the inner edge. now cut it out some use an exacto ive used a ball peen hammer. once you get one that fits correctly make a few for the next time. its not all that difficult. roy - craig c. .
From : craig c
roy wrote get some gasket material that is made for the rear end fluid. that is really what my question pertains to. is the material a cork type of material i had read that they are prone to leaking especially when used for tranny gaskets which is also part of my thought process. if the material you are referring to is a paper type where would i find such a material one that fits correctly make a few for the next time. its not all that difficult. youre talking to a scientist not a mechanic. - craig c. .
From : roy
roy wrote get some gasket material that is made for the rear end fluid. that is really what my question pertains to. is the material a cork type of material i had read that they are prone to leaking especially when used for tranny gaskets which is also part of my thought process. not what i have used. it is a heavy laminate paper really ridgid.. if the material you are referring to is a paper type where would i find such a material any railroad. g i would think a auto parts or a truck parts. one that fits correctly make a few for the next time. its not all that difficult. youre talking to a scientist not a mechanic. - im talking to a guy who bought a truck that i wanted to buy but couldnt due to ma emission laws. so im following this thread along.vbg roy craig c. .