Lets Start a GAS WAR

From : william boyd

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From : trey

transurgeon wrote transurgeon wrote as a starting point 3% / 2 % = 150% i still say 3% is only 1% more than 2%. ;^ 0.03 / 0.02 = 1.5 think about it i didnt intend to stir it up again it was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek reminder. at least its in a k&n thread again. i believe we agreed to disagree on this one the last time around. .

From : tbone

on thu 28 apr 2005 215010 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote --killer dowel pin. this is an alignment pin located inside the --front gear case thats used during assembly. the problem is it can work --itself out and fall into the gear train often with catastrophic results. --fortunately its also pretty simple to fix. tst products --http//www.tstproducts.com sells a repair kit to secure the dowel pin and --prevent it from falling out. tom yes i read that article. but isnt that just with the nv4500 what i was figuring is if the condition of the truck is less than expected i would go for the nv5600 conversion and either a total overhaul or rebuilt engine from the local cummins shop here in bloomington ca. if the truck is inspected prior to purchase and is found to be very sound then the less expensive upgrades would be in order. jmc also made a reply to my post but like i originally stated... im in california and i would never purchase a new vehicle in this state or a used one for that matter that was conforming to the 5 state carb requirements. we plan to have a second or what some may call a vacation home place of residence out of california thats the 5th wheeler. we are deeply into genealogy and will probably register all our vehicles within that state. here in california this massive emigration is being referred to as white flight. our taxes gasoline property registrations... everything is being over taxed. thanks for the reply and just because you only mentioned two faults with the 97/98 12 valve i believe im on the right track. later.... g. hedlund zip 92404 researching hedlund anderson nyrn jansson heggi laszlo tako taney luchinger toensing and haufle. .

From : miles

ok al have you check the back of the intake manifold .

From : miles

does any one have a power rear sliding window in there truck am thinking of buying one think it would be handy seeing as i have a quad cab and a long reach. am wonder how hard it is to install or if i should just pay the price and have it installed .

From : tbone

hobart duncan wrote i have a question that i can not find an answer to within this group or googled on the web.... but first the background of my question. i am now retired and my wife and i want to travel. we do have the funds to purchase a new dodge w/cummins to pull a 5th weel toy-box to carry my jeep and live in... and have been looking for both units here in california where we now live. new dodges in our area go for 38 to 42k and the trailers are in the 20 to 25k price ranges. i want a manual hard to find and a ram 3500 seems to provide what i may need. the question to save money.... i believe i can purchase a used manual 3500 with 12 valves 1997 or 98 for under 15k and poke an instant 8 to 10k into it and come out with a very reliable truck that will last the x number of years we have left. ive been reading within this group the major advantages of the pre 24valve engines and have been persuaded in this direction. my major question is the difference between the 1997 and the early 1998 cummins 12 valves are the 97 dodges the same as the 1998s prior to the 24 valve and for either the 97 or 98 what is the most effective engine mods to perform i plan on purchasing and registering the vehicle outside california because the trailer will be located in another state maybe missouri. the 5th wheels length will be just long enough to carry my jeep and provided the necessary space to cook and sleep while on the road 26 to 30 foot max. once a destination is reached the jeep comes out and will be parked under an attached awning like a car port. also i understand that new regs will be governing the fuel in the near future. will the mods made to a 12 valve be compatible with the new fuel regs anything you can help me with will be appreciated. if im barking at the wrong tree..... let me know that too..... reliability strength and economy are the major factors.... speed of the vehicle is of no major concern..... we will get where were going when we get there.... great source for info on the various ram models http//www.dodgeram.org be sure to explore the tech menu specs and the diesel engine section. .

From : tbone

trey wrote http//money.cnn.com/2005/04/26/autos/toyota.reut/index.htm found this in my other ng thought it was interesting. check out time magazine dont know which issuebut ann coulters picture is on front page good article about toyota how they are trying to get into the truck market. also their quality control is coming slightly down the hyundi is getting to be a better qualtiy built vehicle according to jd powers i think thats the name dale .

From : miles

what book might that be i guess our model year didnt have the diagnostic code feature. the dodge book we bought clearly states it. damn! thanks anyway though. .

From : tbone

on wed 27 apr 2005 041424 -0500 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote i will check coolant availability tomorrow. maybe i am running out of coolant. it is too late right now. coolant hmmmm.... yall were on a roll til he mentioned coolant... he lost me there too tom. i mean antifreeze. there was no antifreeze in the excess antifreeze tank although there was plenty in the radiator. i added water and antifreeze today. well see how it goes. i doubt that this is it but well see. i .

From : tbone

what ever you say brent.you perverted porn freak get real and stop hating. .

From : miles

honeybs@radix.net wrote on tue 26 apr 2005 004748 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote just got home from work a little bit ago. was about 60 degrees today a little breezy and the sun was trying to come out. i saw two neighbors mowing their grass near my home. what is wrong with this yesterday it was 30 friggen degrees and a couple of inches of snow on the grass. this sucks... denny i feel your pain! i have about 20 or so virgin queens that need to go on their mating flights just sitting in the hives waiting for the weather to warm up. beekeep dont be so damn tight go buy them some clothes bundle them up and send them on their way dale .

From : peter

i had a 96 plymouth voyager with the 3.3l engine that would do this every once in awhile. a throttle body cleaning always made it go away. on mon 25 apr 2005 174150 -0400 cjl cjl@invalid.com wrote hello i have a 2001 caravan 2.4 engine 49k miles that only stalls when stopped other than that it runs fine. the problem is very intermittent some time it idles fine. when it does stall the engine will not start for about five minutes and when you try to start it during that time it sounds like it is backfiring through the intake manifold. when i do have to stop if i increase the idle buy pressing down on the gas peddle and braking at the same time its ok. normal cruising speeds on the highway and around town if runs just fine. also i am getting no error codes at all. thanks for any help. chris ** due to spam i no longer receive email responses to ** group postings so dont bother. .

From : tbone

lucky you im grateful if i can get my truck out of the driveway. of course its not a 4x4 dakota just 2x4 ive been thinking about putting a blade on my 2000 just to keep the drive clear. interested in hearing from people who have moved snow with a dakota and how it does. .

From : tbone

does anyone know if the hemi or diesel will be an option on the dakota next year i had heard rumors that they were holding that off for another year or two. something about a larger displacement possibly 6.3 instead of the 5.7. dont know if it was true but thats what i heard. kevin .

From : miles

transurgeon wrote saying that 3 is 50% more than 2 is imprecise instead say that 3 is fifty percent larger than 2 and yes 3 % is 1 % more than 2 % more than indicates that all numbers in a statement are in the same units; subtraction in other words larger than indicates that a comparison has been made; usually by way of a ratio i can live with that. wholly shit we agree on something! or shoud that be we agree about something holy f*ing shit ! how about we agree amongst ourselves about something now...........................can you explain the concept to bonehead yawn... i understand the concept and never said that it was mathematically wrong. what i said was that it was fuzzy math because you were using it to make the k&n look much worse than it really is and you know it. and btw many times you did say the k&n lets in 150% more dirt which i pointed out was every way wrong. although you tried to hide you mistake behind semantics i see that you are now careful not to make that mistake anymore so at least you are capable of learning something. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

when i changed rear gears in my old 94 dakota i had to change a gear on a sensor in the transmission also but someone told me that you dont have to do that on the later models. i have an 04 now and am changing from a 3.55 to a 4.10. do i have to do anything special like reprogram the pcm or will it pick up the vehicle speed off of the axle speed sensor .

From : peter

says... whats the matter with you a person wililing to help you with your problem you are bad mouthing. are you rying to get him to quit helping people that can fix thier own cars but dont know the problem based upon his poor attitude i wouldnt want his help. he seems to be the type of individual who would purposely give you incorrect information in the hopes of you taking your vehicle to his service department to be ripped off. .

From : miles

on thu 21 apr 2005 181310 gmt electrician@xo.com electrician wrote drgn1400@webtv.net says... i respond to those in the ng that have legitimate conerns to their e-mails. this prevents half of you shade-tree yahoos from arguing proven repairs and causing a potential accident. people like you are why the u.s. auto manufacturers are going belly up. treat the users of your product like dirt and make sure their next purchase is a superior quality truck from a japanese company that treats their customers with respect. so keep bad mouthing us all the way to the unemployment line. whats the matter with you a person wililing to help you with your problem you are bad mouthing. are you rying to get him to quit helping people that can fix thier own cars but dont know the problem i know it takes a genius to replace a oxygen sensor. are you the dealer owner that thinks youre missing out on $85.00 an hour fee. as you will soon see china will start making fuel efficent cars. a econmy model 40-50 miles per gallon or a deluxe 30-40 miles per gallon. they will be sold at wall-mart for 5-10 thousand dollars. it is not slave labor the people are willing to work for less and they are free to do as they please with the money they make its a fortune to them. 100 years of usa growth gone to china in a couple of years. they are happy there not concerned about the lack of polution laws. the disease that will follow those that will travel to other countrys & take it with them those that buy from wall-mart support jobs going to china and that which will come in the years to follow.. if you couldnt buy american youd pay a fortune for foriegn. ps i already know im an idiot tank u .

From : tbone

larry wrote i got a 79 holiday rambler motorhome with a 440 dodge engine. how can i get info so i can but parts and repair the engine i need any help i can get!!!! thnaks!!!! try posting to rec.outdoors.rv-travel or alt.rv hd in ny .

From : miles

you fucking pig get a life brent d. .

From : miles

this ng has become a group of warranty kings and queens looking for free advice dont look now brent... but every group is full of people looking for free advice!!! every group i participate in... people are always asking for advice on their network configurations in comp.dcom.sys.cisco... always looking for advice on how to set up their mill in rec.crafts.metalworking... always asking what process/settings to use for welding particular metals in sci.engr.joining.welding.... the list goes on. you seem to be the only one with a bug up his ass about this. well heres some free advice for you stop participating. i guarantee you no one not a single warranty king or warranty queen here will miss you... not for a second. .

From : tbone

us wrote ive got the 03 with hemi and auto havent noticed the noise. i also pull a 28 trailer and havent noticed it unlocking and locking i assume you mean some sort of hunting type feeling unless i forget to lock out the od. snipped thanks. ive got to get the oil and filter changed again soon. guess im going to have to pursue this again with the service manager. ive checked to see if there was a computer update for it but havent found any. the noise isnt real loud but is annoying plus any noise from a transmission or engine is cause for concern. wish mike s. would chip in on this. hd in ny hd i just saw your post... email me with your details. mike .

From : tbone

stephen harding wrote still some serious problems with fuel cell technology for automotive purposes though. the volume problem seems fairly serious. how do you pack enough h2 in the car to get a reasonable distance how do you store the h2 safely where do you get the h2 from its energy intensive to produce but i think this technology is going to fly! maybe 10 years and not just in cars. instead of those aa batteries powering all your electronics youll have a refillable miniature fuel cell that will do the job. in the meantime perhaps the prospect of $3/gal gasoline will get america more serious about alternative energy. its only been 30 years since the first wake up call gas crisis! i think h2 is the next fuel for cars but i agree there are issues to resolve before it becomes mainstream. hybrids arent a technology that will last or have much effect. they arent replacing gas guzzling suvs on the road. and neither will fuel cell vehicles especially since they will be completely dependent on their electric motors and batteries. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

roy wrote i saw that some people out there were in line for 5-10. sorta late dont ya think bg roy its that damn k&n 1% thats to blame !!!! im not going to touch it.g roy .

From : miles

hi i have a 1970 w200 4x4 that runs quite a bit better smoother when there is moisture in the air. is there anything i can do in the way of tuning to make it run as if it is humid all of the time oh by the way it has a rebuilt 318 in it with a stock small carb. im not looking for any fancy mods just better operation. .

From : stephen harding

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From : miles

if you plan on working on it your self id look for a pre-98 dodge. the old 12 valve is a breeze to work on. i searched these forums and cant find a decent thread talking about fuel mileage and reliability. i want to buy a used150000miles or sodiesel pickup mainly because ive always wanted one and secondly for the fuel mileage and engine life span. i wont be pulling a trailer nor carry abnormally large loads. i am a sales rep who is going to be driving a lot more. i am a big ford fan but i need a long lasting good fuel mileage vehicle regardless of the brand. i hope i can get an objective opinion from you guys. here is what ive come up with so far dodge worst mileage best overall engine reliability. ford better mileage not as good reliability. chevy/gmc best mileage worst reliability. these results are based on what ive read concerning 1983 and up vehicles. keep in mind im using brand generalities not engine specifics. im coming here to get opinions from you as to specific engine axle combinations and brands for my needs. please dont start arguments with each other im looking for all opinions and discussions. ford is my preference but if chevy is better for me then chevy it is or dodge. all discussions are welcome if two points are made your opinion of best mileage reliability and best fuel economy. keep in mind diesel info only. thanks clay ps. if you know of a site which covers this in detail i apologize in advance and ask that you point me to it! also i have posted this on other sites as well. -- there are 10 kinds of people in the world those who understand binary and those who dont. .

From : langerhans

bostik never-seez works well on the caliper slides .

From : miles

peter wrote can i put in aftermarket fog light assemblies rated at 55w in 99 durango will relay & wiring take it thx peter i did it last year. i had them on as long as 4 hours at a stretch without any problems. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : miles

a diesel should sound like a diesel - yes but a diesel shouldnt also sound obnoxious. there are noise standards as well as emission standards. i can open the hood of my 04 duramax at idle and have a conversation in a normal tone of voice while standing next to it. my friends cummins powered dodge requires you to nearly scream at each other in order to be heard with the hood open. just an observation but it seems like you are contradicting yourself by saying the 6.0l ford has inadequate injectors and then go on to say it doesnt have any problems. i never did have any serious problems with the 7.3l powerstroke motors at work although it did seem that the performance fell off faster over the years than comparable cummins powered units. it was the ford tranny that was a nightmare but i understand they dont use the e4od behind a diesel any more and with good reason. cheers - jonathan arent both the cummins and international engines now using rail injection i was thinking they went that way to compete with the durmax performance. with my durmax my wifes only comment has been it sounds like the wind blowing as the turbo winds down. .

From : tbone

btw guys...dont know about where you are at but fuel is dropping like a rock here. reg unlead was $2.45 a week ago... now its 1.99-$2.10 wow... its working already! keep up the good work guys!!! yeah yeah... i know.... .

From : tom lawrence

on mon 18 apr 2005 192753 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote nothing fuzzy about it you might want to pull out the 4th grade math book the one with dick and jane and spot on it and do some reading from what i am reading from you here i can see that dick and jane is about as far as you got in your education. then ask yourself is this a true statement 0.03 / 0.02 = 1.5 yes or no sure it does but the real question is what does .03 and .02 stand for on their own and the answer is nothing at all. and if they stand for nothing as is what in the hell does the 1.5 you get by dividing them stand for i think that you will find the answer is the same as the last one nothing. for this reason alone it either shows a failure in your logic or that you are a graduate in the gwb fuzzy math academy. your calculation is nothing more than a percentage of a percentage and when you do that you lose just about all valid meaning. for the momory-impaired such as yourself 0.03 stands for amount of dirt 3 % allowed to pass by a k&n and 0.02 2% is the amount passed by an oem filter therefore a k&n pases 150 % or 50 % more dirt than an oem get up to speed will ya once again your logic fails. as i said you are taking a percentage of percentages which has no valid meaning in itself. then on top of that your wording is wrong. if we were to use your logic it would let in 150% as much dirt as a paper filter not more than a paper one. if it was 150% more then it would be allowing 2 .5 times the dirt as paper and this is not true. it lets in up to 1.5 times as much dirt but when you look at how little dirt the paper element lets in 1.5 times just about nothing is still just about nothing. any way that you want to look at it from a valid baseline the k&n will allow up to 1% more dirt in than a high quality paper filter big deal. fwiw i fully understand transsurgeons math and logic it is correct. how you choose to interpret and apply it is up to you. i can hardly believe you are arguing about it... you are showing either ignorance or a closed mind when you say a percentage of a percentage is meaningless. how about a fraction of a fraction or a decimal divided by a decimal. a percentage is simply a fraction where the denominator is 100 and as such can be divided multiplied added and subtracted. if the paper element allows 2% and the k&n 3% the k&n will allow 50% more dirt than the paper. if the paper element allows n amount of dirt to pass the k&n will allow n x 1.5 or 150% when compared to the *total* allowed by the paper element. what could be simpler dj .

From : Annonymous

thats ok son im can still use basic and remember most dos commands. not even trying to understand hex. hex can be a little confusing.. 0 0 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 10 a 11 b 12 c 13 d 14 e 15 f that would be why i like the higher level languages like c++ adding and subtracting in binary is a real brain twister too! .

From : tbone

i think that i will stay right here at $1.99 for now anyway if you dont mind. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving come to the demecratic republic of washington state. we will gladly provide you with regular at 2.40 avg 2.35 to 2.60 or diesel at 2.75avg. and this is where the state legislature is saying we need another 15 cents a gallon gas tax. so come on up and enjoy. .

From : nosey

tbone wrote denny wrote rickn7hj@gmail.com wrote double bounce by gmail. they foudn the wire to the sensor near the clock spring they replaced to have a splice pulled loose yea right and they respliced it what were they doing under the dash if they were repairing front end components if and this is a big if they by some chance had the steering shaft unfastened and turned the shaft too much they could have pulled a wire apart inside the clockspring. if this had happened it shouldnt have been repaired it should have had a new clockspring installed. denny im going to show my ignorance now. what is the clockspring the clockspring is the connection between the steering wheel controls and air bag and the fixed part of the column. it loops around inside of the column many times to be able to expand and contract to deal with the right and left rotation of the steering wheel and looks like a clock spring hence its name. great answer. thanks. .

From : tbone

come on folks. boycotting one supplier when there is a limited supply only hurts yourself. we need to decrease the quantity demanded. in other words just plain buy less gas from everyone! thats right you are endorsing these high gas prices when you buy these gas guzzling suvs and giant trucks that never hauls anything more then your fat butt. you are trying to play the supply and demand game with the people that set the supply. it wont work. refinery production will be balanced with whatever demand the consumer sets. prices are not high because mother earth ran out of oil. i know oil is a limited natural resource but when are we going to run out i dont think any time in the immediate future. if we reduce the demand the refineries who you want to boycott will reduce production to balance the demand then raise prices to make up for lost sales volume. if you think they will keep refining just to store the products and create a supply overstock you are kidding yourself. .

From : bryan

of course it is. as you know the price of fuel seems to have little to do with the days price of oil. it seems that the oil execs are getting scared with the recent rapid shift of americans to more fuel efficient vehicles as seen by rapid market share loss of gm and ford and are trying to lull us back into being the selfish ignorant people we are so good at being with lower prices for a while. fuel price by me is now back to $1.99 form $2.24 a week ago but it will be for a short time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving steve@carolinabreezehvac.com webmaster@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in bs snipped... btw guys...dont know about where you are at but fuel is dropping like a rock here. reg unlead was $2.45 a week ago... now its 1.99-$2.10 .

From : tbone

p done usually indicates the end of the display codes so it appears that your vehicle can do it. iirc there was one year that could not. your best bet would be to wait for a check engine light to come on and try it again. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving one of my kids has a 2000 ram. i was curious if cycling the ignition switch would show trouble codes on the digial odometer. some say it will and some say say it wont. i talked to a dodge dealership they said that wouldnt work. i cycled the ignition switch three times the digital odometer did change it read p done i dont know if that meant there were no codes i was tempted to unplug an engine sensor and run the engine just to see if a code would show-up i didnt. anybody ever read codes this way on this vehicle thanks .

From : tbone

this goes along with what i have been saying for years we either conserve it now or pay big for what is left of it later. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving these hybrids are rather costly so no real savings from the better mpg. lol you really need to start thinking long term miles. while i agree that they will save little to no money now the demand will push for the further development of the vehicles to where they both get getter mileage and cost less. i recently came across http//www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ id say its too believable to be true... but would love to hear any arguments against the theory... peter .

From : peter

drgn1400@webtv.net says... i respond to those in the ng that have legitimate conerns to their e-mails. this prevents half of you shade-tree yahoos from arguing proven repairs and causing a potential accident. people like you are why the u.s. auto manufacturers are going belly up. treat the users of your product like dirt and make sure their next purchase is a superior quality truck from a japanese company that treats their customers with respect. so keep bad mouthing us all the way to the unemployment line. .

From : nosey

i respond to those in the ng that have legitimate conerns to their e-mails. this prevents half of you shade-tree yahoos from arguing proven repairs and causing a potential accident. like....a mashed finger to those that feel i am a troll why are you reading this post. cause....i thought it had something to do that was of importance. troll or not i thought you actually had a moment of clarity. either 1; you feel i will give you some free info how cheap of you; information is free you dolt. its the ability and the expertese to be able to use that information as its ment to be used that you pay for. 2 you are one of the idiotic customers i have described that has not opened their warranty manual; boy...now if that just didnt make us all feel warm and fuzzy about your ablities.... 3 or you just cant wait to flame a dealership employee which makes you a troll in it self. as a former service manager...and current company owner and son of a dealership owner.. you just got issues man. however its nothing that you cant fix. you are the repair god......go fix it. brent .

From : webmaster carolinabreezehvac com

oh god..why do you go there then because i bought the truck there ... it had some problems in the front end. i wouldnt have but i was forced. does it always have to be a damn conspiracy no just incompantancy point is the dealer made it right. why cry about it god....when i worked at a dealership we had customers like this one and we cringed everytime they came in. ahh so you have issues you need to deal with. anger management. i notice that your answers to anyone posting to this group is never an answer but a slam. but thats yours to deal with. my dealer is something i had to deal with. lol...far from it. im one of the easiest to get along with people you could meet... nate knows...several in here know me in real life..not as words on a screen. ok here is why it built up. my salesman didnt take your stance however and is bringing this all up in the morning meeting this morning between the salesmen and service. at least my salesman is trying to change some of the practices back there. your saleman is bsn you. several things have built up to this. we bought a van there .. 2003 with 10k miles. our salesman took it back to service for a complete inspection report. came back with everything listed out. one of the things i wondered about is 10k miles on brakes and they listed them at 80% .. odd but if they say so. we take the van back with 17k on it with a brake noise. they say the front have to be replaced and oh brakes are not warrenty its a maintenance item. fine i figure wife been hard on the brakes. replace them ... fool me once. i didnt ask how much and when i went to pick the van up i was hit with a $310 buck bill to replace the two front brake pads. no other task was accomplished. ouch hard lesson learned. did they tell you that there are four brake pads on the van keep going man..this is why i seem to be a hard ass...sugar coating ignorance isnt my cup of tea... bought truck from same salesman ... has 37k on it. i specifically told the salesman to have the brakes checked and to personally have it verified. came back at 80% again ... he said the previous owner must have replaced them. ill come back to this. another proof positive that the dealer you deal with is not the one you should be dealing with. 2 weeks ago i took my truck in for oil/lube they sent me a coupon for a price noone could beat fool me twice. got truck in and was told 45 min. after an hour i very nicely ask service guy if truck is done. he says to wait back in waiting room he will check on it. after another hour i go back and ask again and he says oh didnt no one tell you we were done an hour ago ... great. now i take it in for this front end things. among other things they had replaced the clock spring idler arm couple others .... when he called at 1pm i said i would be there at 430 after work. i arrive and was told to wait for the paperwork to be completed could they not have done that then ... i waited another 45 min while they did paperwork. expecting to pay the 100 deductible ... i get presented with a 225 buck bill. asking whats up .... i get told that the front end alignment after the replaced the parts is not covered by warrent. its a maintenance item. umm....37000 miles on the truck...basic warranty is 3-36....... however if they replaced parts under warranty that would effect the alignment then its up to the dealer to cover it since its covered onthe green sheets... so there is my story. i dont bitch to them i have learned to be very polite. the groups i try to be polite too and not hammer people with comments such as yours. you may have yelling and screaming customers but with your attitude i can see why. geese.. ok...sorry you dont like being told in a point blank manner that your dealer sucks and your overall attitude that for whatever reason drives you to return to them for the same old song and dance is creating your issues. i have issues lol...what was it you said fuck me once looks like they have taken you for a ride over and over and over...and you dont get it. as far as my customers went....i was in the top 10 rated serice managers in the country with 2 of the franchies that we dealt with and in the top 20 for 3 years after i left. nope...customers came in screaming normally cause they were fuckin nuts. kinda like the same guy that goes for his weekly lube at a dealer that wont let him down. hint. me ill talk to my salesman and see if he was able to get anywhere. if not ill see if a better dodge dealer is around for all other maintenance and will only go back for warrenty if i have to. all you have to do is go to the website punch in your zip and you can get a listing of dealers around you. .

From : miles

steve wrote transurgeon wrote as a starting point 3% / 2 % = 150% i still say 3% is only 1% more than 2%. ;^ your still wrong. look at the equation another way 2 *x = 3 x would equal 1.5 or 2 x 150%=3 try both of these on your calculator and you will see that transurgeon was right all along. 3% is 1% more than 2%. prove it on your own calculator. 0.02 + 0.01 = 0.03 nope while 0.02 + 0.01 = 0.03 the phrase more than implies that the larger is divided by the smaller to give a ratio not fuzzy math fuzzy definitions 3 is 50% more than 2 but 3% is only 1% more than 2%. see the difference wrong again 3 is 50% more than 2....so far so good now divide the 3 by 100 to get 3 % and the 2 by 100 to get 2 % since you have divided both by hte same number the ratio remains the same a percent is an expression of per 100. saying that 3% is 50% more than 2% is just as wrong as saying that three cents is fifty cents more than two cents. that makes three wrongs just as wrong as saying that three cents is fifty cents more than two cents incorrect interpretation you sued fifty cents instead of 50 per cent .

From : tbone

tbone wrote sorry miles but you got either your math or logic all wrong here. the one percent is in relation to the total volume not what the oem blocks. if the oem blocked passed 1000 grams at 2% then it faced a total of 50000 grams in your given period of time. if the k&n was 1% less efficient iow 3% it would pass 1500 grams during the same period of time. like i said over and over and over and over.... there is nothing wrong with garys math as far as math goes it is just fuzzy in the fact that it make the k&n seem much worse than it really is like in holy crap 50% worse. i do have one but i doubt that i will buy another. i guess that depends on what vehicle i get next and how efficient the stock air filtration system is. 1500 vs 1000 is significant. the fuzzy math is trying to base it on a total amount. you do know that these numbers are ridicules right i assumed that you used 1000 grams for mathamatical simplicity since 1000 grams is a hell of a lot of dirt never mind 1500. it would probably be more like 1 gram or .1 gram and in that case 1.5 grams or .15 grams suddenly doesnt seem so bad. if the factory spec for the engine allows for 2.5 or .25 either filter would do. the only thing i care about is how much got into my engine. not how much didnt. comparing two cars the one with a k&n will have 50% more dirt in it than the other. i dont care how much they were exposed to. in all honesty miles i know that in the past hat we have gone round and round on some rather idiotic topics but this makes no sense to me. how can you not care how much was blocked if you dont know the total volume involved then the amount that gets through is meaningless and even if 1 is 50% more efficient than the other if they are both within spec then who cares. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

dale yonz wrote now paper filters at 2% lets say theres 100 dirt particles 98 will be stopped and 2 will pass through the filter. k&n at 3% with 100 dirt particles 97 will be stopped and 3 will pass through the filter. tbone is right whats the big deal 98-97=1 or 3-2=1 because i dont care about the dirt that didnt get through. i look at the dirt that did. you cant really have one without the other. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : nosey

tbone wrote come on folks. boycotting one supplier when there is a limited supply only hurts yourself. we need to decrease the quantity demanded. in other words just plain buy less gas from everyone! thats right you are endorsing these high gas prices when you buy these gas guzzling suvs and giant trucks that never hauls anything more then your fat butt. you are trying to play the supply and demand game with the people that set the supply. it wont work. refinery production will be balanced with whatever demand the consumer sets. prices are not high because mother earth ran out of oil. i know oil is a limited natural resource but when are we going to run out i dont think any time in the immediate future. if we reduce the demand the refineries who you want to boycott will reduce production to balance the demand then raise prices to make up for lost sales volume. if you think they will keep refining just to store the products and create a supply overstock you are kidding yourself. lol where do you guys come up with this crap. the market is what it is and if demand goes down so will the price. even now the price of gas is falling fast in many areas because the oil companies see people rapidly moving toward better mileage cars. if they tried to raise prices in response to lower demand it would drive even more people to even smaller better mileage vehicles and reduce demand even further and then the government would have to get involved since that would be price gouging and the last thing the oil companies want is price regulations. btw do you happen to work for the oil company no i dont work for any of the oil companies. are you saying that last week there was a mad rush of people buying fuel efficient cars resulting in the gas prices going down i think not. lol not hardly. what they look at is what the consumer is buying over time and those reports are not released every day. despite what you might think they are restricted by the same sales forces that effect everyone else and they can only sell it for what the market will bare. the price of gas at the pumps is set by the cost of foreign crude oil. lol now you are really dreaming but if this were true how could they raise the price when we use less. less demand translates into lower crude prices the us is the largest user of crude oil but we are not the only users. north america us mexico and canada consumes 30% of the global market. if the entire continent got together and cut our oil use overnight by a staggering 50% the global market would only see a 15% reduction in sales. operating and materials costs of the oil companies are recovered in the price of the product. when the sales volume goes down the percentage of those costs recovered in the product goes up. there is less product being sold to recover the portion of overhead that does not change with production levels. a 50% volume loss will have less than a 15% lowering effect on the global market pricing of the crude oil and crude oil is only 54% of the end product price. thats an 8% operating cost break for a 50% reduction in sales. volume goes down price goes up. .

From : nosey

i respond to those in the ng that have legitimate conerns to their e-mails. this prevents half of you shade-tree yahoos from arguing proven repairs and causing a potential accident. to those that feel i am a troll why are you reading this post. either 1; you feel i will give you some free info how cheap of you; 2 you are one of the idiotic customers i have described that has not opened their warranty manual; 3 or you just cant wait to flame a dealership employee which makes you a troll in it self. brent keep up the good work brent ill appreciate your help when i need it. some people know about bees and some people know about trucks...you should stick with what ya know -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .

From : miles

thanks for that piece. i had not considered that. clay if you plan on working on it your self id look for a pre-98 dodge. the old 12 valve is a breeze to work on. i searched these forums and cant find a decent thread talking about fuel mileage and reliability. i want to buy a used150000miles or sodiesel pickup mainly because ive always wanted one and secondly for the fuel mileage and engine life span. i wont be pulling a trailer nor carry abnormally large loads. i am a sales rep who is going to be driving a lot more. i am a big ford fan but i need a long lasting good fuel mileage vehicle regardless of the brand. i hope i can get an objective opinion from you guys. here is what ive come up with so far dodge worst mileage best overall engine reliability. ford better mileage not as good reliability. chevy/gmc best mileage worst reliability. these results are based on what ive read concerning 1983 and up vehicles. keep in mind im using brand generalities not engine specifics. im coming here to get opinions from you as to specific engine axle combinations and brands for my needs. please dont start arguments with each other im looking for all opinions and discussions. ford is my preference but if chevy is better for me then chevy it is or dodge. all discussions are welcome if two points are made your opinion of best mileage reliability and best fuel economy. keep in mind diesel info only. thanks clay ps. if you know of a site which covers this in detail i apologize in advance and ask that you point me to it! also i have posted this on other sites as well. -- there are 10 kinds of people in the world those who understand binary and those who dont. .

From : nosey

oh yeah i also picked up a bunch of tune-up stuff including a fuel filter. this is an 88 ram 50 with a 2.0 liter mitsubishi engine. ive crawled all over and under the thing and cant find the fuel filter. checked the glove compartment for the manual and found a fuel filter; i guess the previous owner couldnt find it either. any pointers appreciated. hope is isnt part of a submerged pump assembly. if so its going back to restock. scott .

From : mike simmons

jonathan race wrote i can open the hood of my 04 duramax at idle and have a conversation in a normal tone of voice while standing next to it. my friends cummins powered dodge requires you to nearly scream at each other in order to be heard with the hood open. being able to have a conversation while standing next to an open hood while the engine is running isnt on my list of requirements for a diesel or any other type of engine for that matter. .

From : nosey

i can send you a copy of the pages out of the factory dodge dakota 02 manual. it will be a mdi file and you will need to have microsoft office 2003 on your computer to read it. im unable to send it as a pdf file. one more thing it will be 4-5mb so if you dont have broadband it will take some time to download. tom i am positive the caliper is sticking. i was able to free the brake by putting presure on the pins with a screw driver. after the brake was free i test applied the brakes and everything worked well. i have driven it several miles with consistant stop and go braking with no problems since. should i go ahead and replace the caliper or drive it until it does it again is there a safety concern to worry about if i continue to drive it i know the rotor will need to be replaced due to the overheating or at least turned but cost is an issue at this point. how hard is it for a novice to replace the calipers brake pads and rotors at home i checked pricing and oriellys auto parts can supply all the above parts for less than a brake & rotor job at a brake shop. please advise. .

From : trey

not sure about ford diesels but i driven both chevy and dodge diesels. we use chevys at work and they all have automatic transmissions. the latest model is a 2002 and we get around 20 mph on the highway. i drove the dodge trucks while playing porter for my wife who sells dodge trucks. i picked up and drove back to the dealership three in the last year. the best mph came from a 2004 dodge 2500 quad cab long wheel base with auto transmission. i got 26 on the highway. this vehicle was brand new when picked up with only 3 miles on it. i had to drive it back from tennessee to louisiana so most of the driving was interstate with the cruise control set at 70 mph. sarge .

From : bryan

transurgeon wrote as a starting point 3% / 2 % = 150% i still say 3% is only 1% more than 2%. ;^ that is because it is. he never got past 2nd grade math or even first grade logic when you look at this. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .