Kerry Kicked Ass

From : tbone

Q: stirring up trouble again tom -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. need i say more -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

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From : jerry

on fri 08 oct 2004 232723 -0700 barry largecarcass@comcast.net wrote just bought an 87 dodge pickup. whenever i drive it and its hot outside after i shut it off the truck seems to get vapor lock and refuses to start again. so i popped the hood... and what seems to be happening is the choke closes all the way whenever the engine is shut off.... which makes it darn near impossible to start. my solution is to jam the choke open with a screwdriver until it starts. also im only getting 7 miles to the gallon litterally although the truck seems to run fine. im goin to rebuild the carb but how do i know if the electric choke ever functions correctly i mean how do i test *that* or is it totally screwed up and i should save time by installing a manual choke the trucks an 87 dodge ram 360 engine. the qjets numbers are 17085431 / 1746. from what im reading that may not be the carb that came with the truck. im not a newbie but havent worked on my own cars for about twenty years and the carb thing is a new one for me. any advice greatly appreciated... and if youre in oregon it might be worth some beer. no just back off the choke heater coil cover undo screws clamping it to adjust the choke butterly to the full off when it is running and just on turn off when hot. then wait till it gets cold and see if the choke butterly is shut at all after a stab of the gas before starting if not then your choke heater is possibly dead and at least youve backed off the choke and can give it a pump on the gas to start cold till you can test / replace the choke heater. .

From : tbone

on sat 9 oct 2004 071615 -0500 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote and i buy american! mike how there are no 1 nation trucks anymore mike... between suing parts from several countries and so many companies being owned by multinational groups its a tough chore.. the closest might be ford trucks built in north canada america... .

From : tbone

on 08 oct 2004 183207 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote i remember that one. i think i got it from mac and forwarded to you. i figured it would hit home with you.. vbfg denny damn denny.. that was a sheep youre right denny i do remember mac did drive to nd through mont a a a a a ah and bitched about having to give up his regular zippered jeans for button ones with velcro !!!!!!!! if i remember correctly he also almost got in trouble for taking up with the local sheriffs girlfriend as well as insisting that he wanted the sheepherders special at the local eatery on san francisco sourdough bread bg damn red.. youve been up in the rain to long and your brain rusted... the last person that i know about that got emotionally involved with livestock lives in wash-ing-ton and burns the excess crisco from his hot tub in his cummins.. .

From : jerry

just bought an 87 dodge pickup. whenever i drive it and its hot outside after i shut it off the truck seems to get vapor lock and refuses to start again. so i popped the hood... and what seems to be happening is the choke closes all the way whenever the engine is shut off.... which makes it darn near impossible to start. my solution is to jam the choke open with a screwdriver until it starts. also im only getting 7 miles to the gallon litterally although the truck seems to run fine. im goin to rebuild the carb but how do i know if the electric choke ever functions correctly i mean how do i test *that* or is it totally screwed up and i should save time by installing a manual choke the trucks an 87 dodge ram 360 engine. the qjets numbers are 17085431 / 1746. from what im reading that may not be the carb that came with the truck. im not a newbie but havent worked on my own cars for about twenty years and the carb thing is a new one for me. any advice greatly appreciated... and if youre in oregon it might be worth some beer. .

From : jerry

this link http//www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml takes you to a ford site where all the major brands of automotive air filters are tested empirically for filtration and flow. included at the site is a chart that tells how big a filter a given engine displacement needs for a maximum rpm. i am not responsible for the content of the site so dont complain to me if it tells you something you dont want to hear. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. very interesting reading. im glad you posted the link. i didnt see the chart for sizing the filter to the engine. how many cfm filter would the typical stock 5.9l engine require thanks denny #2 the formula for four stroke engine cfm is cid x rpm x ve* / 3456 *ve = volumetric efficiency 100% efficient = 1 no engine is 100% efficient however. therefore... 360 x 5500 x 1 / 3456 = 573cfm that assumes 100% efficiency which aint gonna happen mike .

From : budd cochran

ah nimby thinking . . .and where does the oil for your cross trainers your cell phone case all the dang plastic in your life including the thin little sheet in your windshield that protects you in an impact from flying glass come from the plastic fairy maybe someday it will be drilled. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. budd cochran wrote im curious as to why no drilling in alaska do you live there the cost far outweighs the benefit both in $s and environment destruction. jeff .

From : budd cochran

must be a liberal thing . . .you know the arguing indecision confusion idiocy ad nauseum. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i guess i cant argue that..... denny if you were t boner you would politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : john smith

craig christian wrote i would purchase the gas engine and give more money to the oil companies. if i buy the diesel i give more money to dodge/cummins and less to the oil companies ... better check the pumps again ............... in my area diesel costs more than low grade gas. jerry .

From : budd cochran

with your childish behavior hell have to devolve a bit to come down to your level. it takes some doing to make him look good but youve managed it. i crown you the new champion of the is too is not ive got to have the last word game. i hope its not too heavy for your pinhead. .

From : tbone

you can say it but you would be wasting your time in here. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving im curious as to why no drilling in alaska do you live there i am trying to purchase some land there now actually. but no at this instant i live in dallas and have no vested interest in alaska other than trying to keep the greedy oil companies out. the amount of oil under alaska is not worth the time to drill for it and definately not worth the environmental destruction it causes. the solution ... is to get off of fossil fuel and try to save our land ... dare i say it ... for future generations. craig c. .

From : tbone

craig christian wrote before spending any money do the math. how much does it cost to buy and operate your truck for 50k miles and how much to buy and operate a new diesel. around here the fuel price is close so its almost a wash. last time i was in ma diesel was more expensive than regular gas but a little cheaper than mid grade. so the diesel was much more expensive. while this reasoning makes sense ... heres the issue i have with it i would rather spend the extra $$ and get somethig for it. i.e. if i went by your logic i would purchase the gas engine and give more money to the oil companies. if i buy the diesel i give more money to dodge/cummins and less to the oil companies ... and i actually have a truck that will serve me longer and more reliably. seems to me that everyone wins if i buy a diesel ... except the oil companies and the ragheads that sell us the oil. craig c. hey who am i to argue with that if your goal is to save as much money as possible a big diesel may not be the way to go. but with your goals a diesel works. different goals require different approaches. now if you could only get a small diesel in a dakota........ -- ..bob 01 dakota quad cab 5.9/auto/4x4 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged! 84 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 65 427sc cobra ffr replica - project 66 mustang coup - daily driver .

From : tbone

tbone wrote you really do have your head up your ass jerry. i used the turbo waste gate as nothing more than another example of how an easy change can have massive gains in boost and power in a force fed engine. damn it took you almost three days to put together your usual dribble and bull shit and then you still get everything wrong. lol unlike you jerry i do have better things to do with my time. now lets see how much deeper you can dig yourself in today. simply changing a waste gate setting will give you nothing except maybe more smoke. lol if you say so. massive gains in power by simply adjusting the waste gate for boost huh............. better get back to you little search engine stupid. perhaps you should crack open a book and read a little before sticking your head completely up your ass. maybe you might like to explain how just the boost setting change can give you these massive gains in power. the word is can not always will and massive is a realitive term. if you get 15 hp by replacing the entire exhaust then 40 from tweeking the boost is massive. never mind the fact that without a timing and/or fuel increase adjustment must also be done. you are a fucking idiot. do you kiss your mother with that mouth oh thats right you never met her. lucky for her i guess. the fuel and timing adjustments will be handled by the computer just like it was prior to the boost adjustment up to the limits of the fuel system and the computer tables. how do you think it works in the lightning moron. if you need more then you can flash the computer and upgrade the fuel system. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

i told ya that thing was making power!! g hey denny do you know anything about the wheelhorse 414-8 tractors i just bought one and im looking for any facts i can find. its used so i dont have the factory manuals. im interested in finding those and a plow or blower for it since it has the axle mounts for the plow but no plow or frame for the plow. max might be able to use a plow for a atv. not all that expensive might need a bit of adjustment though. roy max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : budd cochran

in my honest personal opinion t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. sure troll-boy in your dreams . . so how come you have 3 or more people pointing out your screw ups all the time and i rarely get corrected by anyone gee its because you dont know anything. what 3 are you talking about as if you dont know another lie troll-boy spin and duck troll boy but you still made the implication. nope that was you but if you say im wrong prove it. this is not a long thread show me where. you claim youre not implying it so you prove youre not. no tommy-troll you lose. drag racing generally only allows one hour between rounds to make repairs re-tune or whatever. the turbo enthusiates will change a compressor a scroll a core a complete turbo or adjust a wastegate in that time period. a supercharger car has the same restrictions. heck aa/fd guys do a complete overhaul in that time frame. that is exactly my point they can do an entire overhaul in an hour. are you now saying that a pulley swap is at the same difficulty level and requires the same tools as an engine overhaul. who is talking about drag racing anyway we are talking about street cars here and the people who own them. sorry budd but you really tangled yourself up in your spin this time. no troll-boy in your effort to cover your butt you missed the point that changing a turbos output is doable at home and it doesnt take a rocket scientist . . .with training you could even do it. point its not as difficult as you in your lack of knowledge or experience claim. i didnt say that it was. what i said despite your spin was that rebuilding a turbo is more difficult than swapping out a set of pulleys. and my point is that you dont know what youre talking about again. lol where did i say i worked for dodge tommy-troll oh my error sorry about that. you said that you spent 6 months as the mopar v-8 tech on a turbocharging site. i thought that you had actual experience. i guess thats why you are hear now not knowing what actually regulates boost pressure. did that site shut down now please explain how the waste gate effects spool up times. unlike you i know of more than one way to regulate boost on turbo centrifugal and positive displacement systems. explain why you think it doesnt effect spooling time. and your knowledge of automotive mechanics is as usual underwhelming. and yet superior to yours in many areas. lol name a couple dozen troll-boy. i have yet to see any praises for your answers to questions. then go buy a mirror . . i suggest a stainless steel one for durability. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : jerry

before spending any money do the math. how much does it cost to buy and operate your truck for 50k miles and how much to buy and operate a new diesel. around here the fuel price is close so its almost a wash. last time i was in ma diesel was more expensive than regular gas but a little cheaper than mid grade. so the diesel was much more expensive. while this reasoning makes sense ... heres the issue i have with it i would rather spend the extra $$ and get somethig for it. i.e. if i went by your logic i would purchase the gas engine and give more money to the oil companies. if i buy the diesel i give more money to dodge/cummins and less to the oil companies ... and i actually have a truck that will serve me longer and more reliably. seems to me that everyone wins if i buy a diesel ... except the oil companies and the ragheads that sell us the oil. craig c. .

From : jerry

steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote lets see....clinton had the same info that bush had.... what did clinton do kept the peace and gave us 8 years of kick ass economic reform. even paid down the deficit. not even... in the last 2 years we have prospered while no small business did under clinton. what a complete load of crap. before bush you were saying that you were not taking on new customers because you couldnt handle what you already had. was that a lie -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tbone wrote you really do have your head up your ass jerry. i used the turbo waste gate as nothing more than another example of how an easy change can have massive gains in boost and power in a force fed engine. damn it took you almost three days to put together your usual dribble and bull shit and then you still get everything wrong. simply changing a waste gate setting will give you nothing except maybe more smoke. massive gains in power by simply adjusting the waste gate for boost huh............. better get back to you little search engine stupid. maybe you might like to explain how just the boost setting change can give you these massive gains in power. never mind the fact that without a timing and/or fuel increase adjustment must also be done. you are a fucking idiot. jerry .

From : tbone

sorry miles but you are just reaching now. just about everything you are saying turns out to be nothing more than assumptions and crap from unnamed sources. the facts are the facts we went in there to get the wmds and they didnt exist. yea yea he had them in the past but doesnt now and he was no threat to us in the short term. we should have put our money and men where they belonged in afghanistan hunting down the people who actually did attack us instead of diverting our strength and allowing our enemies to rebuild. wrong war wrong time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote only if the evidence didnt back it up sorta like iraq now. im seeing more and more come out recently that shows otherwise. but then youd have to read the reports past the medias one line headlines to know that. .

From : budd cochran

on thu 7 oct 2004 213158 -0400 steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote like i said you either believe that saddam should still be in power or you dont..there isnt any middle ground. tom were still waiting for an answer on this. why do you keep ignoring this question if you are going to ask a single question then edit the garbage away. and there is in fact middle ground. yes saddam needed to be dealt with but no we shouldnt have done it not the way we did anyway. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote really what exactly did bush do to stop terror prior to 9/11. oh thats right spending money prior to an actual attack on his watch would have made it difficult for him to institute his tax cut for the wealthy. even a was and sending in our troops without the proper equipment isnt enough to stop him from making his friends richer still. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lets see....clinton had the same info that bush had.... what did clinton do who caresclinton isnt president anymore and never based his entire career as president on a bs war. btw clinton did not have the information that bush had. he was sitting president over the war then...yes..he was. get your history clear....the gulf war never ended...we had a cease-fire in 91 yet we averaged one attack on them every three days... then i guess that he was doing something wasnt he. you really ought to care as i can bet that hillary will run in the next election possibly with billy as her vice... i doubt that she is not going to run against kerry and the country is not ready for a woman president yet. then you know he can run again as president.. we could only be so lucky. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

in my honest personal opinion t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. lol really miles please list some specific examples. face it the president screwed up not that is would matter to you. your greed blinds you to everything besides your wallet. .

From : tbone

budd cochran wrote what i find bothersome is that the report came out now after over 4 years. pres. bush only acted as hes promised saddam when saddam refused to let the un investigators look around . . .could it be he was hiding or destroying his wmds do you think if the report had come out in a timely manner if the investigators hadnt been delayed from doing their jobs would pres. bush have attacked iraq at all why hasnt any of the media noticed this the media has noticed this but only report one line of the report and skip all the rest. the report made it clear that saddam had worked on plans to create wmds but had put it on hold awaiting lifting of sanctions. it was clear saddam wanted to restart the program asap. the report also did say saddam created small chemical weapons to be used for assasinations etc. the media knows all this but goes against its views to report it. .

From : budd cochran

miles wrote kevin wrote i think monroe has discontinued the sensa trac and replaced it with the reflex. how long have you had the reflexs and are you just as satisfied with them as the last set when i bought my sensa-tracs last year they also sold the reflexs. the reflexs can also be bought under the rancho label as the rsxs. monroe reflex and sensa-trac shocks can also be bought under the napa label. for a 98 dakota 2wd napa sensa-trac front and rear $38.99 each napa sensa-trac rear load adjuster $114.00 for the pair napa reflex front and rear $47.99 each .

From : budd cochran

wrong!!! wrong!!! wrong!!! turbo manufacturer engineers work with vehicle manufacturer engineers to determine a workable dependable configuration which can still be changed for more or less boost. look at some of the ricer sites. they swap turbines compressors and housings all the time. look at some turbo manufacturer sites and see the options listed troll-boy. btw did you forget i spent about 6 mos as the mopar v-8 tech on a turbocharging site i spent many hours looking over turbo configurations and how they worked with mopar engines. in my honest personal opinion t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. tom if you really knew anything about turbocharging youd know the size relationship between turbine and compressor sections also affects output volume and pressure. a waste gate only limits max pressure and affects spool up time somewhat. if you really had a clue you would know just how stupid what you just said sounds and how much farther off the topic you are from what im accuse of being. the relationship between the turbine and compressor section is optimized for the turbo size and design type at its factory and is not adjustable without tearing down the turbo and swapping housings so it has no meaning here. the waste gate regulates boost pressure as you said but has no effect whatsoever on spool up time turbo lag. spool up time is effected by the rotating mass and the configuration of the turbine housing so i guess that you dont know as much as you think you do. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

by the way its a metric allen head not sure exactly what size since i dont have metric allen wrenches. so im off to buy a set. thanks for the helpful information! you wasted all your precious time sitting on your ass at your computer when you could have just looked you really are stupid politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

tom if you really knew anything about turbocharging youd know the size relationship between turbine and compressor sections also affects output volume and pressure. a waste gate only limits max pressure and affects spool up time somewhat. if you really had a clue you would know just how stupid what you just said sounds and how much farther off the topic you are from what im accuse of being. the relationship between the turbine and compressor section is optimized for the turbo size and design type at its factory and is not adjustable without tearing down the turbo and swapping housings so it has no meaning here. the waste gate regulates boost pressure as you said but has no effect whatsoever on spool up time turbo lag. spool up time is effected by the rotating mass and the configuration of the turbine housing so i guess that you dont know as much as you think you do. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

jeff mayner wrote yeah. bush is one honest dude. lol... jeff the most shocking thing discovered in my life has been the gullability of bush supporters. if youre a liar at least you now know whom you can lie to and get away with it. .

From : budd cochran

mac davis wrote on mon 17 jan 2005 225248 -0600 william. boyd william@cowboy.net wrote hey bill! havent seen you post since shortly after you got your ram... how ya been mac please remove splinters before emailing i have been doing ok thanks. got the fifth wheel camper and preping for southern travels. bill p. cool.. we decided on a 27 tt and keeping the ram 1500 for now.. which 5er did you get mac 03 tahoe widelite 26gt travel trailer 99 dodge ram qq 2wd - 5.9l auto 355 gears you will not have any problems with that combination. i had a tt about that same size behind my 94 gmc 1500 took it across texas at 70 mph. only problem i had was when i added more than 15 gallons of water in the tank located under the bed at the back it did not want to stay steady simple didnt carry much water cross country. if you ever plan an upgrade i can pass along some of what i have learned in this episode; 1. dodge offers tow package good choice however it does not include the wide mirrors. when you decide to add them it cost $400. when you get them with the new ram it is only $100. 2. first thing out of the dealers lot is the rhino spray in liner no substitutes. 3. get the 2500 diesel ho 5.9 fuel mileage is between 16.5 and 19.5 with out towing. my gmc never performed better than 15mpg gas usually was 10mpg with the tt. i have not had a long enough run with the ram under towing conditions. i am expecting some where around 14mpg and that will be a small payment on the diesel engine each trip. i expect to make enough trips that can add up to the extra cost for the ho engine. -- bill p. 2004 2500 slt quad cab dodge ram swb 2wd 5.9 ho turbo diesel 48re auto trans anti-spin dif. rhino liner husky 16k. voyager controller 2005 27rl wildcat dt/pc wi-fi. just me and dog .

From : jerry

miles wrote ricky york wrote lol oh yeah thats a credible source of . name a source that is credible and unbiased. http//www.factcheck.org/ at least so it seems. jerry .

From : theguy

oh i dont really care actually. just thought it was a good topic! i also need someone who speaks edwards language that can translate. he keeps saying stuff like we needa nah leada in da whithause. rotf-lmao you want to make fun of the way edwards talks ... at least he doesnt say nukuler. as a side i also find it funny that for 4 years daddy bush got ridiculed by democrats and republicans for choosing quayle as his running mate. 8 years later we elect someone that is less qualified and less polished/articulate than quayle for president. that begs the question did we simply settle ... or did baby bush get in because of his name craig c. not bush 2004 ah say say you entiah campaign staff an a an a close ahh ahhh advisahs all looka like a vanilla shake! whadaya whadaya gone do fuh mah peeble ifn yall spects dem to come on ahh out anahhh vote fo yall ===the right rev. dr. jesse jackson speaking to kerry at kerrys campaign hq. .

From : budd cochran

t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. -- budd but old bonehead...errrrr t-bone is a well-trained puppy dog! john z kerry president t-bone steak houses 67 restaurants in new joiiiiiiiizey ! .

From : budd cochran

jeff mayner wrote you didnt actually watch much of the debate but you feel cheney kicked ass or are you just trying to stir it up ;- oh i dont really care actually. just thought it was a good topic! i also need someone who speaks edwards language that can translate. he keeps saying stuff like we needa nah leada in da whithause. .

From : tbone

t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. tom if you really knew anything about turbocharging youd know the size relationship between turbine and compressor sections also affects output volume and pressure. a waste gate only limits max pressure and affects spool up time somewhat. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. tbone wrote yup typical. then he posts a statement compareing a boost increase on a blower. to a wastegate adjustment on a turbo. how exactly do you think you control the boost on a turbocharged engine roy come on you can look it up. maybeee ....... change the pulley size please show me any turbo that is belt driven and ill show you what is actually a centrifical supercharger. you want to change the boost pressure from a turbocharger you work with the waste gate. since you were commenting on over driving the blower you couldnt have been talking about a exhaust driven turbo which i dont think can be over driven so you must have been actually talking about a supercharger right. wrong. i was just using it as another example of a simple change causing dramatic results. you guys really need to stop reading more into things that what was there. roy seems to have the idea as i took it that just because a change is simple like changing the pully size the results can cause no harm or are minor. this is simply not always true especially in a motor that is already being pushed beyond its origional design parameters. thats all i was saying nothing more. just trying to get it straight here so i can follow.............. jerry -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

i took it to the shop and they could find nothing wrong with it. they indicated that the relays can stick due to low voltage and 3 of them were stuck. they charged the battery and reseated the relays. we will see... sounds like the infamous fan relay a small $75 solid state device located on the frame just underneath the air filter. you can install it in 15-20 minutes with an 8mm nut driver or pay the dealer $60 labor. johnb johnbsgenerator@hotmail.com wrote my wife went to work today and the engine light came on our dodge 2000 grand caravan. when i arrived to check it out it would not start and the 2 radiator fans were spinning. it appears that the battery was drained none of the electrical components work windows locks etc. has anyone had a similar experience any ideas what might be going on with the van i took it to a shop that indicated that they needed to charge the battery up before they could troubleshoot the van. .

From : tbone

t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. where am i a confessed troll oh thats right because you took my sarcasm and twisted it into what you want it to say. the funny thing is that you outright admitted to trolling and editing what i say to suit your needs. like i said your double standard comes shining through once again. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no double standards at all tom. hes not a confessed troll like yourself. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. now lets see if he gets called a troll by his buddy budd and other for doing exactly what i did and for pretty much the same reason to have a little fun or will we just have another go at the typical budd double standard. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving miles wrote didnt actually watch much of this debate but sounded like a good topic to post. you didnt actually watch much of the debate but you feel cheney kicked ass or are you just trying to stir it up ;- jeff .

From : tbone

because everybody wants to be a lexicographer & wordsmith & punner & time-waster everybody would thus be vastly uninterested in thrashing this note. when i hear em/yall talking about the birdhouse or whatever ya call the large console latched thing in my 86 250 ram van covering the carb & air filter i am thus wondering about other silly names for various things that ive never heard for instance perhaps a steering wheel is playfully called ...helm or rudder or wheel or turning device or the place to temporarily enplace saw-off the semi-clever lock thing or the muffler might be called the silencer or the hollywood or the cut-outs or just a real dumb thing to annoy the neigbors with or the darkened window or sun-defender or the glove compartment is you dont get my exact idea but exact is not exactly the wide-open inquiry .

From : tbone

where am i a confessed troll oh thats right because you took my sarcasm and twisted it into what you want it to say. the funny thing is that you outright admitted to trolling and editing what i say to suit your needs. like i said your double standard comes shining through once again. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no double standards at all tom. hes not a confessed troll like yourself. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. now lets see if he gets called a troll by his buddy budd and other for doing exactly what i did and for pretty much the same reason to have a little fun or will we just have another go at the typical budd double standard. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving miles wrote didnt actually watch much of this debate but sounded like a good topic to post. you didnt actually watch much of the debate but you feel cheney kicked ass or are you just trying to stir it up ;- jeff .

From : theguy

a friend thinks they have torx heads on the caliper bolt. does anyone out there know exactly what i need to remove the bolt i guess you cant take a wheel off and take a look should be an interesting brake job you do know the wheel has to come off to do the brake job politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

didnt actually watch much of this debate but sounded like a good topic to post. he definately did better than his running mate ... craig c. not bush 2004 .

From : budd cochran

jeff mayner wrote yeah. bush is one honest dude. lol... jeff the most shocking thing discovered in my life has been the gullability of bush supporters. if youre a liar at least you now know whom you can lie to and get away with it. bill clinton educated us in these ways. now we just say so what .

From : budd cochran

t-bone is a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything he offers as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. but that only works if the servers honor the request and they dont always do and even then it takes time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving what program are you using ive got outlook express and under edit it says delete. thats what i did with the screwed up post i got from my sis-in-law a short time back. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i was playing around trying to cancel a post. i see it didnt work so i guess im still stupider than my remaining teenage female. life goes on................ think snow.. denny i will not ignore it and you cant make me. you are not the boss of me. you do not own this group. this is the same type of thing you are always doing. if you wanted it ignored you should not have posted it here. ...and now that i have opened it there is nothing but a simple hi. unbelievable. ..some people! sorry denny i just finished my hi octane coffee while reading one of the nomex threads and got carried away. - btw hi. back at ya ken hi .

From : tbone

-- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. no tom my morals didnt change . . .you just dont realize what it takes to keep from becoming the foulmouthed troll you are. really where is all teh cursing that im doing as for the troll part you are every bit as bad as you accuse me of being and you know it. oh the cursing will come . . eventually. it dominates your speech patterns. yea yea sure it will. and it wont be long either. as for trolling point out where i placed a post with the intent to troll. the one i retracted not long ago does not count as i did withdraw it even though you tried to troll me anyway. lol how old are you 5 sorry budd but you cant retract it so it does count whether you like it or not. well id need to check the google archives but it was retracted here and apologized for. whether you accept that is of no consequence. the majority have apparently accepted it. no budd the just dont give a crap anymore. and retraction or not it was still trolling because if it were valid you would have left it and the intent was initially the same regardless of the validity of the post. lol of course it was who signed such a stupid contract. only an idiot would sign a contract with that type of clause and no protection. i doubt that it would have held up in court anyway unless it had a clear maximum on it that they were meeting and even then it is still your fault for setting the maximum too low. really lol your lack of business acumen haunts you even now. you think because laws are the way they are today concerning contracts they were always that way. how narrow minded of you. it is not narrow minded of me at all. you were the idiot that signed a contract that put you out of buisness and were to wimpy to fight it. how about too broke then the buisness was failing prior to the contract problem or you let it go too long. either way the failure was yours. tell me something tom would you consider a mans word as trustworty as a legal contract in todays world you must be kidding. ah well that little sentence tells much about you. like they say budd a fool and his money. otoh there are several including a few ive not gotten along with but youre not in the group that i feel i could take a handshake from as a bonded contract. i hope a few feel that way about me. can you claim that nope a verbal contract isnt worth the paper its written on. this is sarcasm budd a written contract serves to clearly outline what is expected from the other person and there is no insult in signing one. you just have to understand what is written in it something that you failed to do in that one buisness. the second one which went to an employee is still going afaik. i was fourteen when i had it tom and when my family decided to move to indiana i didnt have a choice to stay so my employees got it. he licensed it as a business when he turned 18 and the law required it to be licensed. it wasnt a failure and may still be operating. that is no excuse as you could have reopened it in the new area that you moved too. i didnt want to clear enough why not too much established competition as i mentioned in another post. now any further questions on the matter or has it finally sunk into your skull it sounds more like you couldnt match the new competition. i wouldnt count a business that you ran when you were 14 as successful or failed since it wasnt a legal business anyway unless the labor laws were different way back then. lol not a legal business then the department of social services really screwed up by claiming the pittiance i made mowing a few lawns as sufficient to deny a family of 6 their welfare disbursments. your assumtions are getting worse and worse. boy you seem to be on welfare often. is this a family thing you would have to be a real idiot to report that income. it would appear that you were born into a far more wealthy lifestyle than i was. . .whos fault is that tom fault how can it be anyones fault. i was a 14 year old kid that would give his mom about $80 / week for necessities . . what did i know of welfare i was trying to get a motorscooter. if your family was getting $80 / week in 1961 what did you need welfare for. that sounds like someone trying to cheat the system. and you wonder why it is so screwed up now. tom do you even have the foggiest idea of what a good hourly wage was in 1961 do you even know if a fourteen year old child in 61 could privately own a business i do recall you saying that you were making more than the president of the local bank or was that just your hourly rate both. hourly wages in 61 were less than $1.25 / hr in that community las animas colorado . . look up the populat

From : jerry

now lets see if he gets called a troll by his buddy budd and other for doing exactly what i did and for pretty much the same reason to have a little fun or will we just have another go at the typical budd double standard. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving miles wrote didnt actually watch much of this debate but sounded like a good topic to post. you didnt actually watch much of the debate but you feel cheney kicked ass or are you just trying to stir it up ;- jeff .

From : roy

craig christian wrote hi i am in the market for my first diesel. i currently own a 2002 ram 1500 360 cid. and have loved everything about it except the fuel economy. i have a few questions for those of you that own a cummins. i will be purchasing a 4x4 quad cab. 1 i drive 140 miles per day. about 80 hwy and 60 city. i have heard all manner of b.s. regarding the mpg i can expect. i have heard from as low as 15 mpg to 24 mpg i dont believe this for a second mainly because it came from the dealer. i dont drive like a maniac but i dont drive like granny either. what is reasonable to expect i live in dallas texas btw. mostly flat. 2 the dealer also told me that the automatic did not get any better milage than the 6-speed. i find this difficult to believe. what is the difference in mpg between the trannys 3 right now dodge is offering 1000.00 cash back until 11/1/2004. are the factory rebates towards the end of the year usually more than this thanks craig c. before spending any money do the math. how much does it cost to buy and operate your truck for 50k miles and how much to buy and operate a new diesel. around here the fuel price is close so its almost a wash. last time i was in ma diesel was more expensive than regular gas but a little

From : tbone

i dunno what time do you get up in the morning -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. sure i can. watcha gonna do come beat me up g denny now he cant blame me for opening it first. vbg -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i will not ignore it and you cant make me. you are not the boss of me. you do not own this group. this is the same type of thing you are always doing. if you wanted it ignored you should not have posted it here. ...and now that i have opened it there is nothing but a simple hi. unbelievable. ..some people! sorry denny i just finished my hi octane coffee while reading one of the nomex threads and got carried away. - btw hi. back at ya ken hi .

From : tbone

a mechanic twisted off #7 spark plug on my 96 dodge ram 1500 5.7 liter v-8. furthest back on left and obstructed by master cylinder vacuum chamber steering column and several brake-lines. at least it sloped forward instead of rearward. he then sent me on my way to have it dealt with somewhere else. and yes it was a champion plug as has been criticized by some on the web rc12yc..14mm 3/4 reach. i wasnt quick enough to challenge him when he used only a simple ratchet handle and socket which exerts extra side-pressure on the threads and a harmful side-tilting force on the plug. he ovbviously should have used an extension using any method to insure that the extension only exerted pure rotational force on the spark plug. he had advised against using an impact tool on it. in fairness i had removed the other 7 plugs and another one was extremely tight and i had thought it might twist off. i took the last one to the mechanic because i thought he might have some better method. some of my initial ideas for removing the threads failed wasting a period of time ..lucky i didnt need the truck....including a few careless maneuvers that cost me a lot of wasted time and effort...especially because of waiting almost a day every time i used jb-weld epoxy that needed to cure. its possible some of my attempts may have helped a little but here is what finally worked based on a web- posters success using an oxy/acetyln torch for heating. i bought a square-type tapered bolt remover usually called easy-outs sized for 5/16 hole. then bought a can of some kind of freezing spray at radio shack that can chill to -50 degree f. also available at www.mcminone.com envi-ro-tech freezer #20-2200 1-800-543-4330 or 1-877-626-3532. i then went back to the mechanic and he used his oxy/acetlyn torch with a very small tip to heat the the remaining spark plug shell to a cherry- red. i then immediately sprayed it with the cold-spray after which he was able to use the square easy-out to remove the remains of the spark plug. actually we repeated the heating chilling sequence a second time. he admitted that he had never been able to get them out before and had initially sent me away to a machine shop when he first broke it off. i of course got my suggestions from posters on the internet. in hindsight i might try an alternate approach first i bought a left hand thread tap 3/8-16 that can be hand-turned thru the existing hole strongly magnetized to retain the metal particles...the shell spark gap electrode only bent it did not separate and fall into the cylinder. this provides two things...it thins or weakens the shell a little and when a left-hand thread bolt is screwed in it bottoms out counter-clockwise after which force is now applied to turning the plug shell out....without any outward pressure to the sides such as a tapered square easy-out must have heating cherry red as before. unfortunately i only thought of this after i had earlier run a right-hand tap through...and as i suspected the threads were too weak to avoid stripping out. i was only able to buy a grade 5 bolt strength left-hand so a judgement would have to be made whether it would twist off. of course we had the same worry with the tapered square easy-out. ....so its possible my earlier misadventure cutting the threads did help in the final success. needless to say i used anti-seize paste on the threads although some claim that changes the heat-range value. .

From : roy

i was playing around trying to cancel a post. i see it didnt work so i guess im still stupider than my remaining teenage female. life goes on................ think snow.. denny i will not ignore it and you cant make me. you are not the boss of me. you do not own this group. this is the same type of thing you are always doing. if you wanted it ignored you should not have posted it here. ...and now that i have opened it there is nothing but a simple hi. unbelievable. ..some people! sorry denny i just finished my hi octane coffee while reading one of the nomex threads and got carried away. - btw hi. back at ya ken hi .

From : roy

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From : roy

roy wrote roy wrote although i dont get why jerrys idiot is cutting funding for the va when their case load is increasing but thats another story. actually he didnt cut it roy. what he did was not give the amount the va was asking for and the democrats jumped on it as a tax cut. you can read about it here ....... http//www.factcheck.org/article.aspxdocid=144 now leave my idiot alone will ya ............ okay how about the the idiots junior idiots debate talk about a contrast in style. should be entertaining. roy that will be interesting to watch. watch out for that hunched back old man though.............. can he stay awake though roy jerry .

From : tbone

hi .

From : tbone

i dont know about dodge but gm has taken a few steps backward with its 2005 silverado and sierra 1500-series trucks there are 3 differences in standard equipment for 2005 2004 2005 4-wheel disk brakes front disc/rear drum brakes i dont think the rear disc brake is all its cracked up to be. iirc at maximum braking the front brakes are providing 90% of the stopping power and the rears down to 10% which is also why i believe rear anti-lock was first put on trucks. i remember before rear abs stopping an empty pickup in the rain was exciting to say the least. the rear end would come around in a heartbeat. so if youre down to 10% at max braking i dont see why rear drums arent entirely satisfactory. and after paying over $100 ea. for rear calipers im even less excited about rear discs. i couldnt get rebuilts or kits let alone stainless steel pistons for my 01 had to go with new and the phenolic pistons i dislike so much. p235/75r16 tires p245/70r17 tires max rating 2271 lbs. max rating 2205 lbs. dodge has already gone with 17s even on the duallies. i dont know why it seems to be the coming thing. i also remember when the standard big truck tire was 10.00x20 now were putting 20s on pickups. heck medium duty trucks use 19.5 and 22.5s these days. big trucks use 22.5 and 24.5s rear axle 3.42 ratio rear axle 3.23 ratio the other difference is the epa rating of the 2005 truck with the following equipment 4-spd automatic transmission vortec 4800 v8 sfi gas engine 2004 2005 city 17/highway 20 city 16/highway 21 theres no optional axle ratio just because im old and remember this stuff in the 60s we considered 3.23s to be highway gears no need for overdrive. if gm hasnt changed it recently their od ratio was 0.7 making for a final drive ratio of 2.26. that ratio reminds me of bonneville racers and the automakers using ratios like this to keep their tons of pollutants per mile down. if a 4.8 liter engine pulls this ratio in a full size truck with acceptable performance im pretty impressed. after 6 years of using rear disc brakes gm made the decision to go back to antiquated drum brakes on the rear of its 2005 1500-series trucks to save money. even though drum brakes have more parts than disc brakes and are harder to service they are less expensive to manufacture. i dont know for certain how chevy handled the parking brake situation but dodge did it just like the mid 70s imperial they machined a brake drum inside the rear rotors its just like a minature drum brake built inside a rotor they didnt save on the piece count as near as i can tell. well i didnt mean to bore anyone just some random thoughts on the presented material. in a feeble attempt to give some credibility to its decision to reinstate the old fashioned rear drum brake system gm has made the brake drums bigger. this improvement was undoubtedly done to increase stopping power and heat dissipation. now gm would like us to believe that its rear drum brakes are superior to its earlier rear disk brakes. however gm has stopped short of putting drum brakes on the front of its trucks -- at least for the 2005 model year. unfortunately the newly-designed rear drum brake system of the 2005 1500-series trucks has a drum which is now so large that it requires the use of a 17-inch rim in order to give it adequate clearance. the use of this larger rim necessitates the use of lower profile tires so the load capacity of the 4 standard-equipment tires of the 2005 truck is reduced by 264 pounds when compared to the standard tires which were on the 1999-2004 1500-series trucks with 16-inch rims. it appears that gm has used the new 3.23 rear axle ratio to obtain higher highway mileage in the 2005 truck. there will now be a decrease of 4th-gear power of around 6% and the lower city rating indicates that there will also be an increase in down-shifting. in my opinion this is another big step backward. heres what the gmc website has to say in regard to technological advances what is professional grade its a commitment to a higher standard of innovative engineering design and performance. as of the 2005 model year this statement became total bullshit. so what does gms backward technology and product degradation have to do with dodge plenty! dodge may have followed suite and downgraded its trucks as well. watch out! http//www.gmc.com/index.jspversion=flash .

From : budd cochran

on 04 oct 2004 200311 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote somebody told me a good trick for this i believe it was here on this board. anyway when the tongue drops two inches your load balance is just about right. i must be doing something wrong even with the 28 foot enclosed car trailer loaded the tongue doesnt drop 2 inches when i hook it up to the dually whats wrong politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. take a couple hundred pounds of that jc whitney shit off of the truck and it might red.. *eg* mac .

From : budd cochran

greg surratt wrote why are you waiting until your engine bogs down on a grade to hit the tow/haul button just hit the button when you start the engine and leave it there. it should adjust the shift points before you remember to turn it on. when towing i would but im talking about not towing as well. tow/haul mode does not appear to lock out 5th. was wondering if others had knowledge on just what it does. for me it does very little. on my 2001 the od button works as it should quite different than this new tow/haul button. .

From : budd cochran

the point is tom you dont like it when it happens to you but think its just hunky dory for you to do it . . .a classic liberal double standard. sit on it and spin. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. lol. and how many times have you whined about others butting into your conversations fess up troll! .

From : tbone

i took it to a shop that indicated that they needed to charge the battery up before they could troubleshoot the van. has anyone had a similar experience any ideas what might be going on with the van yep dead battery politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

i have a 95 b2500 van 318ci which hasnt been putting out proper heat since i had the radiator flushed and thermostat changed in the spring. youve had this problem since last spring and now youre getting worried wtf politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : greg surrattdenny

there are no assumptions about it budd. you said it yourself many times which again shows poor planning. you still havent proved i failed yet you assumed i did. thats poor planning tom and its still an assumption.. how is this poor planning is this just another desperate spin nope just you forgetting id ask you to back up your claim . . poor planning by you. now are you going to back it up btw the business i turned over to an employee was still in business the last time i was in that community. have you forgotten why i turned it over or does the truth not fit your agenda yea you moved. ok il let you slide on this one although i do wonder why you didnt reopen it in your new location. perhaps you did and it failed although you would never admit to that. either way one out of three aint good. lol indiana where we moved to was saturated with established adult owned services. what a business moron you are tom. what claims youve admitted in public forum to being the group troll-boy. dont like it stop trolling and grow up. pkb there buddy. i am not referring to you calling me a troll and you have admitted to doing it yourself and not all that long ago either when you said thatr you just like to play with me. in your warped mind maybe but responding to a known troll for the fun of it isnt trolling. generally and especially with you its a waste of time. and yet you keep doing it. i like providing the group with laughs as you demonstrate often and well what a liberal whiney lying spin-doctoring nincompoop you are. i am referring to your constant unfounded attacks on what i know and dont know and the funny thing is i prove you wrong far more than you do to me. unfounded rotflmbo!!!! you want to put that to an opinion poll in this group tom come on i dare you. gee i wonder what your friends would say about me. that still doesnt change the fact that every time i ask you to back up this crap you never do. why is that budd how about i have knowledge that you dont from experience and that cant be linked to on the web. or why shopuld i until you start backing up your claims. and who was the one who got suckered into amway not once but twice. wheres your proof that i was suckered in your previous posts about what a scam it was and your hatred for all mlms. asumptions assumptions assumptions. gee tommy-troll do you think obviously you dont but . . . that maybe i was young foolish and desperate to provide for my family and that i figured out the scam during the second go round the fact is it still took you a second go around to figure it out oh master of buisness. so you were there in both states co and ut at those times and witnessed everything heard all the lies and so on the fact is that at the time i was still inexperienced and desperate enough to fall for false advertising. you probably arent old enough to remember the passing of the truth in advertising law which came into effect afterid learned the hard way. it sounds more like you were unable to keep up with amways standards and are not bitter about that. what exactly does the truth in advertising law have to do with amway it was what started the first lawsuits against them iirc. and youre still making assumptions even when given the truth. tom youre pathetic. i figured it out before the first one when i was approached at 19 or so. and youre how old now not as old as you but older than you think. oh cowardly about telling your age why too young to have done whay you claim simple math shows that it will only work for the people at the top and that i wasnt one of them. i did buy a few of their products though because they worked well especially for the price. lol i cant freaking believe you just saidsimple math after all your objections to the simple math in the k$n threads. because all that was is the typical right wing misleading fuzzy math. third grade level percentages math is right wing misleading fuzzy math . . . .. only a complete liberal puppet could say that. i agree the products are great but just try to find them in any kind of a retail establishment. amway now claims to be a mlm and you still have to join the system become a distributor to get products. not true you can buy them from any distributer. how do you think that i got them you dont have to join unless you want their catalog. why does amway forbid a bottom level distributor from opening a retail outlet his sales volume would be much greater than most of his lower level upline combined. why because it would destroy the cash flow to the higher levels of the mlm system . . and that proves its a pyramid tom. if it advocates bringing in downline membership over engaging in retail sales its apyramid and most mlms are pyramids for thay very reason. wrong. a pyramid doesnt sell a produc

From : tbone

there are no assumptions about it budd. you said it yourself many times which again shows poor planning. you still havent proved i failed yet you assumed i did. thats poor planning tom and its still an assumption.. how is this poor planning is this just another desperate spin btw the business i turned over to an employee was still in business the last time i was in that community. have you forgotten why i turned it over or does the truth not fit your agenda yea you moved. ok il let you slide on this one although i do wonder why you didnt reopen it in your new location. perhaps you did and it failed although you would never admit to that. either way one out of three aint good. what claims youve admitted in public forum to being the group troll-boy. dont like it stop trolling and grow up. pkb there buddy. i am not referring to you calling me a troll and you have admitted to doing it yourself and not all that long ago either when you said thatr you just like to play with me. in your warped mind maybe but responding to a known troll for the fun of it isnt trolling. generally and especially with you its a waste of time. and yet you keep doing it. i am referring to your constant unfounded attacks on what i know and dont know and the funny thing is i prove you wrong far more than you do to me. unfounded rotflmbo!!!! you want to put that to an opinion poll in this group tom come on i dare you. gee i wonder what your friends would say about me. that still doesnt change the fact that every time i ask you to back up this crap you never do. why is that budd and who was the one who got suckered into amway not once but twice. wheres your proof that i was suckered in your previous posts about what a scam it was and your hatred for all mlms. asumptions assumptions assumptions. gee tommy-troll do you think obviously you dont but . . . that maybe i was young foolish and desperate to provide for my family and that i figured out the scam during the second go round the fact is it still took you a second go around to figure it out oh master of buisness. so you were there in both states co and ut at those times and witnessed everything heard all the lies and so on the fact is that at the time i was still inexperienced and desperate enough to fall for false advertising. you probably arent old enough to remember the passing of the truth in advertising law which came into effect afterid learned the hard way. it sounds more like you were unable to keep up with amways standards and are not bitter about that. what exactly does the truth in advertising law have to do with amway i figured it out before the first one when i was approached at 19 or so. and youre how old now not as old as you but older than you think. simple math shows that it will only work for the people at the top and that i wasnt one of them. i did buy a few of their products though because they worked well especially for the price. lol i cant freaking believe you just saidsimple math after all your objections to the simple math in the k$n threads. because all that was is the typical right wing misleading fuzzy math. i agree the products are great but just try to find them in any kind of a retail establishment. amway now claims to be a mlm and you still have to join the system become a distributor to get products. not true you can buy them from any distributer. how do you think that i got them you dont have to join unless you want their catalog. if it advocates bringing in downline membership over engaging in retail sales its apyramid and most mlms are pyramids for thay very reason. wrong. a pyramid doesnt sell a product. that is why it is called an mlm instead. lol semantics tom semantics. heck youre the one always complaining when a term changes and now you get all upset over this one and youre the one doing the changing. lol not really. but why am i telling you because you are an idiot that hates to be told that they are wrong even more than i do and thats saying something thanks guy - really i think archival history would prove you wrong but since you made the claim you search thru what is going on 9 years of my attendance in this group. for what point i have seen it first hand in the shorter time that i have been here. i have seen it first hand in the past week. you dont want to learn anything you already know it all. quite sophomoric of you. i at least know the difference between a mlm and a pyramid. when are you going to figure it out. no you dont youre just playing with semantics. sorry to dissapoint you budd but semantics have nothing to do with it. and you still havent learned a thing. shame on you. in order for me to learn i would need to be talking to someone who knows more than i do and be willing to share it. you fail on th

From : budd cochran

pacesetter headers my main question is do these require a custom y pipe or should the factory y pipe work why dont you ask pacesetter headers or read the directions politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : miles

john smith wrote john smith wrote http//.myway.com/politics/article/id/430390|politics|10-01-20040627|reuters.html i wonder if kerry can run for president of iraq too if i could vote in the french election id vote for saddam! i hope insanity isnt catching through usenet. too late you replied! shit! - jeff .

From : kevin

that directive doesnt mean crap. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving davison wrote tbone wrote really what exactly did bush do to stop terror prior to 9/11. he and his co-horts were pushing missile defense as they still are. pretty damn clueless! bush was in office only 8 months before 9/11. none the less he signed a directive to destroy al queda one month before 9/11 something his predecessor never got around to over 8 years. 8 months in office to create such a directive is fast but unfortunatly not fast enough. .

From : budd cochran

thanks for all the info so far. a couple more questions is any modification required to run 285/75r16s how much weight can the tailgate realistically hold my big ford and the new dodge have no problem hauling my 1200 pound rhino around http//www.hosting-hub.com/filedeposit/uploads/04102004/rt1.jpg but if i put it in the back of the 01 shortbed the back tires would be on the tailgate unless i build a rack for it. 600 pounds to much on the tailgate thanks. .

From : denny

hmm then the old chevy claim is double bogus 283 hp / 283 cubes in 56 had to have been a prototype engine and not a production model like the hemi. no idea but there was a 283 fuelie that was rated at 315hp that made its way into the black widow 57 chevys for circle track racing. it was an ass kicking engine back then the cars had to be stock course those southern boys always adhered to the letter of the law on their cars!!!!! politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : jerry

no tom my morals didnt change . . .you just dont realize what it takes to keep from becoming the foulmouthed troll you are. really where is all teh cursing that im doing as for the troll part you are every bit as bad as you accuse me of being and you know it. oh the cursing will come . . eventually. it dominates your speech patterns. as for trolling point out where i placed a post with the intent to troll. the one i retracted not long ago does not count as i did withdraw it even though you tried to troll me anyway. lol of course it was who signed such a stupid contract. only an idiot would sign a contract with that type of clause and no protection. i doubt that it would have held up in court anyway unless it had a clear maximum on it that they were meeting and even then it is still your fault for setting the maximum too low. really lol your lack of business acumen haunts you even now. you think because laws are the way they are today concerning contracts they were always that way. how narrow minded of you. tell me something tom would you consider a mans word as trustworty as a legal contract the second one which went to an employee is still going afaik. i was fourteen when i had it tom and when my family decided to move to indiana i didnt have a choice to stay so my employees got it. he licensed it as a business when he turned 18 and the law required it to be licensed. it wasnt a failure and may still be operating. that is no excuse as you could have reopened it in the new area that you moved too. i didnt want to clear enough i wouldnt count a business that you ran when you were 14 as successful or failed since it wasnt a legal business anyway unless the labor laws were different way back then. lol not a legal business then the department of social services really screwed up by claiming the pittiance i made mowing a few lawns as sufficient to deny a family of 6 their welfare disbursments. your assumtions are getting worse and worse. tom do you even have the foggiest idea of what a good hourly wage was in 1961 do you even know if a fourteen year old child in 61 could privately own a business the last business was to have only been a hobby business and not a primary income supplier. when it got too demanding because of its success i closed it. that makes no sence at all and sounds more like you are lying. why would you close it it sounds more like you couldnt meet demand or your work got shoddy from rushing and you customers got pissed and stopped ordering from you. you should have increased your prices to reduce demand and if that didnt work you would have had the money to hire someone to help you. sorry budd still sounds like failure on your part. and more unsupportable assumptions on your part tom. keep digging the hole and youll bury yourself. if you decided to close a business even if it were making an income you would call yourself a failure did you forget it was after my first heart attack and i wasnt released for going back to work full time since when is health problems a reason for failure in this case it was prudent to my health to close. i doubt that and your health problems were not the reason for your failure just your excuse for it. lol right. let me ask you something does any of the following run in your family on either side diabetes high blood pressure cholesterol probs obesity or dying younger than the national average if so then you are a candidate for a heart attack. lets see what happens when you have one. lets see who makes excuses then. so tom you dead freaking wrong with your assumptions and wild guesses .. . . .as usual. how many times more will i have to explain this to you how many more times will you corrupt truth to wield this things as weapons how many times will you lie about what you know to save face lol how do your failures help me to save face. how do your successes diminish me either for that matter. the correct answer is neither do either. there is no competition here budd at least not on my side. perhaps you feel the need to justify your life by trying to be better than others but i dont. i dont have to justify anything to you troll-boy but i do have to correct your incorrect assumptions and outright lies about me. you are the one that corrupts what ive said and then claims its a weakness on my part or a sign im a failure in a very uncivil immature anti-social degrading attack on my character. all ive ever said about you has been supported by others that have a whole lot more knowledge about the subjects than you do. so tom which of us is more likely telling the truth which of us has no support in the form of parallel commentary from others that regularly post here which of us deliberately trolls the group and which of us has to lie and corrupt facts to try and win arguments it isnt me. so from now on ill be

From : tbone

too much hot air in the drivers seat...... bg denny damn a guy asks a question around here and look what happens!!!!!!!! the hot air is over at mt st helens this week bg politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : roy

somebody told me a good trick for this i believe it was here on this board. anyway when the tongue drops two inches your load balance is just about right. i must be doing something wrong even with the 28 foot enclosed car trailer loaded the tongue doesnt drop 2 inches when i hook it up to the dually whats wrong put yer fat ass in the back of the truck if ya want a few inch drop! bfg roy .

From : tbone

somebody told me a good trick for this i believe it was here on this board. anyway when the tongue drops two inches your load balance is just about right. i must be doing something wrong even with the 28 foot enclosed car trailer loaded the tongue doesnt drop 2 inches when i hook it up to the dually whats wrong too much hot air in the drivers seat...... bg denny .

From : roy

iow you know that i am right and have no valid responce. i guess that its better than your typical editing of what i said. no tom it was the only response that stayed within the limits of my moral values . . .a foreign topic to you undoubtably. ive noticed you lean heavily on assumptions when my replies strike a nerve. hmmm. what nerve budd and what reply for that matter you just deleted it and ran away again. i do love you magical shifing moral values that always seem to appear when you need something to hide behind and vanish as soon as an oppertunity to attack comes to light. no tom my morals didnt change . . .you just dont realize what it takes to keep from becoming the foulmouthed troll you are. really where is all teh cursing that im doing as for the troll part you are every bit as bad as you accuse me of being and you know it. lol so how did my businesses fail two were too successful and the third one was turned over to an employee. my businesses my choices tom. none failed. hahahahahahaha now you have me laughing at you again. too successful lol give me a break. there is no such thing. in reality you failed them at best because you were not smart enough to plan properly but they probably just died out on their own. once again you show your failure to understand business and tendency to make derogatory assumptions. the problem budd is that i do understand business. you did not plan properly and that caused your businesses to fail period. a good businessman plans for both up and downturns so that they can deal with the needs of both and you simply didnt any way that you want to spin it. there are no assumptions here budd just the facts provided by you! lol youre still assuming things tom. and ignoring facts you were given. example one business closed because we could not get our supplier to keep up with our orders and provide quality products. you also ignored that we were trapped in a contract with them and it had a clause preventing us from continuing with another supplier. what you opinion of that matters not a bit as it is now history and at the time a requirement for the contract acceptance. sit on it tom it wasnt a failure on my part. lol of course it was who signed such a stupid contract. only an idiot would sign a contract with that type of clause and no protection. i doubt that it would have held up in court anyway unless it had a clear maximum on it that they were meeting and even then it is still your fault for setting the maximum too low. the second one which went to an employee is still going afaik. i was fourteen when i had it tom and when my family decided to move to indiana i didnt have a choice to stay so my employees got it. he licensed it as a business when he turned 18 and the law required it to be licensed. it wasnt a failure and may still be operating. that is no excuse as you could have reopened it in the new area that you moved too. i wouldnt count a business that you ran when you were 14 as successful or failed since it wasnt a legal business anyway unless the labor laws were different way back then. the last business was to have only been a hobby business and not a primary income supplier. when it got too demanding because of its success i closed it. that makes no sence at all and sounds more like you are lying. why would you close it it sounds more like you couldnt meet demand or your work got shoddy from rushing and you customers got pissed and stopped ordering from you. you should have increased your prices to reduce demand and if that didnt work you would have had the money to hire someone to help you. sorry budd still sounds like failure on your part. did you forget it was after my first heart attack and i wasnt released for going back to work full time since when is health problems a reason for failure in this case it was prudent to my health to close. i doubt that and your health problems were not the reason for your failure just your excuse for it. so tom you dead freaking wrong with your assumptions and wild guesses . .. . .as usual. how many times more will i have to explain this to you how many more times will you corrupt truth to wield this things as weapons how many times will you lie about what you know to save face lol how do your failures help me to save face. how do your successes diminish me either for that matter. the correct answer is neither do either. there is no competition here budd at least not on my side. perhaps you feel the need to justify your life by trying to be better than others but i dont. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

ok folks hes got the info and hopefully hell get the changes made soon. when he calls ill let you know what happened. thanks again. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. just got a phone call from my son at wyotech and hes having a little trouble with the old d-150 79 with 318 auto. engine is also equipped with a carter engine knock eliminator laramie is at 7200 ft asl and moab where the truck was last tuned up is at 4300 ft. hes running into a problem of low idle rpm 350 in gear and engine warmed up 425 out of gear and sluggish acceleration. i suggested resetting the idle to 625 rpm out of gear about 550 in gear but i drew a blank on if the timing needs reset and which way. i havent had to adjust a vehicle to high altitude since 82. tia -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : budd cochran

iow you know that i am right and have no valid responce. i guess that its better than your typical editing of what i said. no tom it was the only response that stayed within the limits of my moral values . . .a foreign topic to you undoubtably. ive noticed you lean heavily on assumptions when my replies strike a nerve. hmmm. what nerve budd and what reply for that matter you just deleted it and ran away again. i do love you magical shifing moral values that always seem to appear when you need something to hide behind and vanish as soon as an oppertunity to attack comes to light. no tom my morals didnt change . . .you just dont realize what it takes to keep from becoming the foulmouthed troll you are. lol so how did my businesses fail two were too successful and the third one was turned over to an employee. my businesses my choices tom. none failed. hahahahahahaha now you have me laughing at you again. too successful lol give me a break. there is no such thing. in reality you failed them at best because you were not smart enough to plan properly but they probably just died out on their own. once again you show your failure to understand business and tendency to make derogatory assumptions. the problem budd is that i do understand business. you did not plan properly and that caused your businesses to fail period. a good businessman plans for both up and downturns so that they can deal with the needs of both and you simply didnt any way that you want to spin it. there are no assumptions here budd just the facts provided by you! lol youre still assuming things tom. and ignoring facts you were given. example one business closed because we could not get our supplier to keep up with our orders and provide quality products. you also ignored that we were trapped in a contract with them and it had a clause preventing us from continuing with another supplier. what you opinion of that matters not a bit as it is now history and at the time a requirement for the contract acceptance. sit on it tom it wasnt a failure on my part. the second one which went to an employee is still going afaik. i was fourteen when i had it tom and when my family decided to move to indiana i didnt have a choice to stay so my employees got it. he licensed it as a business when he turned 18 and the law required it to be licensed. it wasnt a failure and may still be operating. the last business was to have only been a hobby business and not a primary income supplier. when it got too demanding because of its success i closed it. did you forget it was after my first heart attack and i wasnt released for going back to work full time since when is health problems a reason for failure in this case it was prudent to my health to close. so tom you dead freaking wrong with your assumptions and wild guesses . . .. .as usual. how many times more will i have to explain this to you how many more times will you corrupt truth to wield this things as weapons how many times will you lie about what you know to save face -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : max340

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From : budd cochran

oh yea budd miles gary max and a few others are completely innocent of that lol! lately i am innocent of that since ive posted like 5 times since may. stop using others habits as an excuse for your own. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : budd cochran

i know that all of us are wrong at one time or another but some in here make it a big deal if im not absolutely correct. why is that roy as for the lightning a perfect example of above i was not completely wrong. i said that you needed numbers close to that of the srt10 to beat it and your link pretty much confirms that. putting a fairly high overdrive on the blower and reprogramming the computer and a high flow filter does add some considerable hp to that engine but it does it without increasing the durability of either the engine or drive train. at least one person on that group made these changes and was supproized that it is still running without failure after 10 months. not exactly the definition of reliability there and most of the ones with these mods indicate that they are not using them for towing anymore. now while it does appear to be less expensive to get them to this point than i thought they are not there and completely dependable either and they are at the top of what they can be. the srt10 is only at its beginning. tom with those minor mods if you lost the motor you could by a new short block and do it again and still have saved money. astually you could buy a couple of short blocks. sorry for the piggyback response on budds reply but rrs worthless servers really suck and i never saw this one from you. sure you probably could buy a few stock short blocks for less and save money but you really wouldnt be any better off than you were to begin with. then you forgot to add the time and fun of yanking the dead engine out swapping parts putting the new one back in and hoping that you didnt miss or break something in the process and having no vehicle in the mean time. a mechanic has the ability to do a job correctly and not break things in the amount you imply. iirc that engine was designed to put out around 260 hp stock without the blower and ford already added 100+ hp to it and i doubt that they made any significant changes internally or they simply wouldnt be able to sell that truck so cheap. the fact that you can only get it with the automatic shows that they didnt invest in a modified standard shift and that automatic was all that they had to handle the massive torque that engine puts out. add another 100hp and put a load on it towing and you may be replacing more than that engine. and you got your automotive engineering degree where from a wal mart discontinued items stand thought so. you really dont know what engines are capable of do you you really dont understand what it takes to do the job discussed do you if what you said were true then aa/fd dragsters wouldnt be running in the 4s and the old hemi from the 50s would never have handled 95% nitromethane loads and wed still be driving model ts. this is the reason the srt10 cannot tow its trans cannot handle the torque of that engine and a towing load together. really how about pressure from the hierarchy demanding a match for the lightning be on the market this model year instead of waiting till a trans is ready thats the possibility you choose to ignore. has it ever happened yes many times. the 64 pontiac gto had a hot engine and 9 /2 drum brakes. the early turbo corvairs had a dangerous turbo lag and would die if you kicked it too had at too low of rpm and no braking improvements the first barracudas had a 273 engine that loved 6000 rpms even with the two-barrel but 9 drum brakes and thats just the tip of the iceberg. if you really understood business then you would know that pressure from the top has caused many companies to go belly up when poorly engineered products hit the market . -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : tom lawrence

i know that all of us are wrong at one time or another but some in here make it a big deal if im not absolutely correct. why is that roy i cant answer for roy if not then why are you butting into a conversation between me and him. rest of meaningless drivvel snipped ***** -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

thanks for all the responses people. appreciate it! .

From : tbone

iow you know that i am right there you go again... fair and balanced... .

From : tbone

1999 dodge 1500 4 x 4. i see a discussion about a problem that is very similar to one a friend is experiencing. instrument/dash lights illimination for speedo tach etc and tail running lights are out. tail light has three bulbs upper middle reverse light and lower. the upper light still comes on for brakes hazzards and blinkers. middle section still comes on for reverse. lower section never comes on. my friend and i really dont know much about electrical systems testing hunting problems reading schematics etc. so well probably end up at a shop or possibly turning to another friend for assistance. but first i would like to at least find a burnt fuse and try changing it it may have blown when he tried hooking up a trailer a few weeks ago. i have looked at all of the fuses on the side of the dash and in the fuse compartment under the hood. i cant find a bad fuse nor one that is labeled such that it looks like it would be the fuse that these circuits are on at least not in the owners manual that came with the truck. can anyone tell me for sure what fuse should be out if this is occuring or if it could possibly be the light switch or thanks .

From : tbone

tbone wrote pyramid schemes dont sell products either but that is not the point. bull. the ftc defines what is a pyramid and what makes them illegal vs. a legal mlm and they most certainly can and do sell products. youre incorrectly thinking of the scams that have no product which is only one form of an illegal pyramid. mlms such as amway were once considered an illegal pyramid by the ftc and were forced to alter how they pay commissions and recruit distributors. the point is that he shouldnt claim to be the all knowing master of business and then get even these simple terms wrong. then you should not either as you got them very wrong. but will never admit to that. just about any distributition network will also take the shape of a triangle if you draw it on paper but that does not make them pyramids or mlms either. in most mlms an individual distributor does not make money selling products. in an mlm verticle growth is required to survive. .

From : tbone

lol not to worry. i dont take most of this personally. if i did i would probably kill myself lol! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on sun 03 oct 2004 191919 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on sun 03 oct 2004 161311 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on sat 02 oct 2004 204037 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote i just want to let you know how sorry i am to dissapoint you. it means so much to me. well that much is obvious. tom not really meant directly at you just sort of my philosophy in general. you know i ams what i am. sorry about the way that it came across. .

From : tbone

montanajeeper wrote it should be rated 460 lb-ft from 1600-2700 rpm peak hp 235 at 2700 rpm. thanks. whats the best way to get it to run identical or close to my cummins 600 chip i havent done any performance mods to mine so i have no first hand advice. i know the gear ratio was a concern of yours so i included this handy comparison chart http//www.dodgeram.org/tech/specs/axle/47auto.htm look on the drivers side of the timing case for the cpl data plate. thanks. whats a cpl data plate http//www.dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/facts/cpl.htm how much of a load will you be pulling i have a 99 2500 qc 4x4 short bed auto with the 215 hp 420 lb-ft cummins and the same gears. it tows 6000 lbs in the mountains of tennessee very well. i dont expect to tow very often with the truck but sometime next spring im going back to north carolina to move my brother and his family out here with us. my wife will drive one of my dodges and ill drive the other one and well both tow 24 enclosed trailers back with everything that my brother and his family owns. i could put the heavy stuff on the trailer being pulled by the new dodge if i need to but on the other hand i dont want to feel like the 01 is handicapped and be afraid to load it down also. thanks! here is some additional information you should know when towing from the cummins website. cummins engines are designed to operate successfully at full throttle under transient conditions down to peak torque engine speed. this is consistent with recommended operating practices. do not operate the engine at full throttle operation below peak torque rpm refer to engine dataplate for peak torque rpm for more than 30 seconds. operating the engine at full throttle below peak torque will shorten engine life to overhaul can cause serious engine damage and is considered engine abuse. do not operate the engine beyond the maximum engine speed. operating the engine beyond the maximum engine speed can cause severe engine damage. use proper operating techniques for the vehicle vessel or equipment to prevent engine overspeed. .

From : roy

mikeygmoed@aol.com mikeygmoed wrote just so you folks are aware toyota won this past weekeknd in the fontana truck race beating dodge chevy and ford !! is that 3 or 4 wins so far...... thats three for toyota. which is the *least* amount of wins of any manufacturer this year. dodge has -- gee look at that -- the *most* wins this year with eight followed by chevy with five ford with four and toyota with three. what was your point again bodine had a great truck. he ran musgrave down in a hurry after it looked like musgrave was going to dominate the race at the end. .

From : theguy

on sun 03 oct 2004 161311 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on sat 02 oct 2004 204037 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote i just want to let you know how sorry i am to dissapoint you. it means so much to me. well that much is obvious. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

gees budd with your living conditions you should be the last person to say that anybody doesnt know how big business works. and what does my choice of living conditions have to do with it its economical comfortable and when i move i dont have to buy all new furniture learn a new floorplan or re-hang my pictures. and its all that you can afford. now there is nothing wrong with that but stop claiming to be some sort of business genious and superior to me in every way when the proof is in the pudding. if it werent for your idiotic assumtions about people tom and your closet bigotries youd have to act human. there are no assumptions about it budd. you said it yourself many times which again shows poor planning. one could presume you were run out of where was it new jersey couldnt they and it would be no more presumptuous than your vicious comment troll-boy. run out lol. more like i ran out while the gettin was good. as for a vicious comment it is no worse that the ones you make about me every chance that you get. what claims youve admitted in public forum to being the group troll-boy. dont like it stop trolling and grow up. pkb there buddy. i am not referring to you calling me a troll and you have admitted to doing it yourself and not all that long ago either when you said thatr you just like to play with me. sorry budd but that is trolling any way you want to spin it. i am referring to your constant unfounded attacks on what i know and dont know and the funny thing is i prove you wrong far more than you do to me. and who was the one who got suckered into amway not once but twice. wheres your proof that i was suckered in your previous posts about what a scam it was and your hatred for all mlms. asumptions assumptions assumptions. gee tommy-troll do you think obviously you dont but . . . that maybe i was young foolish and desperate to provide for my family and that i figured out the scam during the second go round the fact is it still took you a second go around to figure it out oh master of buisness. i figured it out before the first one when i was approached at 19 or so. simple math shows that it will only work for the people at the top and that i wasnt one of them. i did buy a few of their products though because they worked well especially for the price. i was trying to make a living in a democrat congress controlled economy and i admitted getting involved with that pyramid plan was a mistake but i was also a lot younger then and had a family to feed and shelter. yea it was the democrates fault lol. btw a pyramid and an mlm are not the same thing. perhaps you should look them up. if it advocates bringing in downline membership over engaging in retail sales its apyramid and most mlms are pyramids for thay very reason. wrong. a pyramid doesnt sell a product. that is why it is called an mlm instead. but why am i telling you because you are an idiot that hates to be told that they are wrong even more than i do and thats saying something thanks guy - you dont want to learn anything you already know it all. quite sophomoric of you. i at least know the difference between a mlm and a pyramid. when are you going to figure it out. sorry budd but i am fully aware how big business works and it survives the way it does because of ignorant people like yourself. rotflmbo!!!!! sure you understand tom. you understand you dont want anyone to pop your little liberal bubbles about how life the universe and everything works in reality. ok budd keep spinning in you land of denial. the right wing has you so brainwashed that they can feed you cold shit on a paper plate which they pretty much did and you would thank them for their precious offerings like they were god himself. i laugh when i here the conservative candidates claim that they want to give even more unconditional tax breaks to big business to create more jobs here when everyone with a functioning brain knows that it will never happen unless those tax brakes are fully conditional on the type and number of jobs. and you still havent learned a thing. shame on you. in order for me to learn i would need to be talking to someone who knows more than i do and be willing to share it. you fail on the first count more times than not and fail on the second count with me at a clean 100%. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

iow you know that i am right and have no valid responce. i guess that its better than your typical editing of what i said. no tom it was the only response that stayed within the limits of my moral values . . .a foreign topic to you undoubtably. ive noticed you lean heavily on assumptions when my replies strike a nerve. hmmm. what nerve budd and what reply for that matter you just deleted it and ran away again. i do love you magical shifing moral values that always seem to appear when you need something to hide behind and vanish as soon as an oppertunity to attack comes to light. lol so how did my businesses fail two were too successful and the third one was turned over to an employee. my businesses my choices tom. none failed. hahahahahahaha now you have me laughing at you again. too successful lol give me a break. there is no such thing. in reality you failed them at best because you were not smart enough to plan properly but they probably just died out on their own. once again you show your failure to understand business and tendency to make derogatory assumptions. the problem budd is that i do understand business. you did not plan properly and that caused your businesses to fail period. a good businessman plans for both up and downturns so that they can deal with the needs of both and you simply didnt any way that you want to spin it. there are no assumptions here budd just the facts provided by you! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

really where did i ask for an open opinion. dont like getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar do ya lol! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving because you were asking for opinions in open forum as you love to remind others about. sit on it and spin tommy-troll-boy. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i know that all of us are wrong at one time or another but some in here make it a big deal if im not absolutely correct. why is that roy i cant answer for roy if not then why are you butting into a conversation between me and him. rest of meaningless drivvel snipped ***** -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

iow you know that i am right and have no valid responce. i guess that its better than your typical editing of what i said. no tom it was the only response that stayed within the limits of my moral values . . .a foreign topic to you undoubtably. ive noticed you lean heavily on assumptions when my replies strike a nerve. hmmm. lol so how did my businesses fail two were too successful and the third one was turned over to an employee. my businesses my choices tom. none failed. hahahahahahaha now you have me laughing at you again. too successful lol give me a break. there is no such thing. in reality you failed them at best because you were not smart enough to plan properly but they probably just died out on their own. once again you show your failure to understand business and tendency to make derogatory assumptions. .

From : budd cochran

nosey wrote mryooneek@webtv.net wrote hi i have a 2001 ram 1500 318 2wd with a factory towing pakage and am going to pull a u haul 8 ft. trailer with some furniture from cincinnati to mishawaka indiana about 250 miles. besides double checking the tire pressures tranny fluidand coolant and keeping it out of overdrive climbing any upgrades any other tips for a newbie at pulling a trailer when im on flat terrian can i keep it in overdrive i also need a receiver i heard of a weight distribution type is this necessary for a small trailer like this thanks in advance! 1971 dodge challenger 1978 chrysler le baron 1989 rusty t-bird sport 2001 dodge ram 1500 slt 1989 dodge ram sltspare be sure to load the front of the trailer heavier than the back to reduce swaying at highway speed. you need at least 10% of the total loaded weight of the trailer on the tongue. somebody told me a good trick for this i believe it was here on this board. anyway when the tongue drops two inches your load balance is just about right. -- ..bob 01 dakota quad cab 5.9/auto/4x4 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged! 84 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 65 427sc cobra ffr replica - project 66 mustang coup - daily driver .

From : miles

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From : tbone

the un useless network of diplomats had 12 years to do its job. all they did was prattle on and on and say oh thats a presidential palace we wont look there where do you think we should look please dont shoot down our u2s the truth is we should never had started this war until the un was totally finished and all the troop that went into iraq should have been sent to afghanistan instead. also the old saying keep your enemy on your side is oh so true. that way you always know what they are up to. bush must go read our home land security documents and it will make you shit in our pants. flip-flop kerry wrote the facts for debate 1 thursday september 30th 2004 question one safety & security kerrys claim the bush administration has shown disdain for allies treaties and international organizations. the facts kerry dismissed coalition partners as window dressing and claimed theyre not sharing burden of war and reconstruction. cnns american morning 3/2/04 kerry mocked coalition as coerced and bribed. herbert a. sample kerry blasts bush on iraq effort sacramento bee 3/14/03 a multinational force of some 30 nations continues to help secure a free iraq. president bush the multinational force of some 30 nations continues to help secure a free iraq and we are grateful for the service and sacrifice of all. presidents radio address 9/25/04 in addition to the united states other coalition members are providing approximately 25000 troops to assist our efforts in iraq. robert burns u.s. offensive hinges on iraq elections the associated press 9/29/04 37 nations are contributing troops to the nato-led force in afghanistan. nato in afghanistan factsheet nato http//www.nato.int/issues/afghanistan/040628-factsheet.htm nato is training iraqi security forces and the united nations is helping iraq prepare for elections. presidents radio address 9/25/04 kerrys claim the president is fueling anger at america. the facts in first dem debate kerry strongly supported presidents action in iraq. sen. john kerry i said at the time i would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity but i think it was the right decision to disarm saddam hussein and when the president made the decision i supported him and i support the fact that we did disarm him. abc democrat presidential candidate debate columbia sc 5/3/03 british prime minister tony blair called the war on terror an effective multilateral action against wmd. britain america and our partners are determined to stop the threat of weapons of mass destruction. we have played a leading role in the international atomic energy agency with our closest allies on the issue of iran and nuclear weapons. we strongly support the six party talks on north korea. we have enforced security council resolutions relating to iraq. we have played a leading role in the proliferation security initiative designed to interdict the passage of cargoes which could be used in wmd programs. these actions show that we are serious about effective multilateral action against wmd. text of blairs address concerning libya the associated press 12/19/03 the 9/11 commission judged that international cooperation in the war on terror is now on a vastly enlarged scale. 9/11 commission report p. 365 kerrys claim too few iraqi security personnel have been trained. the facts the u.s. army general in charge of training effort in iraq says there are 164000 iraqi police and soldiers of which about 100000 are trained and equipped and an additional 74000 facility protection forces. today approximately 164000 iraqi police and soldiers of which about 100000 are trained and equipped and an additional 74000 facility protection forces are performing a wide variety of security missions. equipment is being delivered. training is on track and increasing in capacity. infrastructure is being repaired. command and control structures and institutions are being reestablished. lt. gen. david h. petraeus us army battling for iraq washington post 9/26/04 the 5000 number kerry cites is just the number of the iraqi army that have been trained and excludes the iraqi national guard intervention force special ops air force and coastal defense forces. .

From : tbone

mryooneek@webtv.net wrote hi i have a 2001 ram 1500 318 2wd with a factory towing pakage and am going to pull a u haul 8 ft. trailer with some furniture from cincinnati to mishawaka indiana about 250 miles. besides double checking the tire pressures tranny fluidand coolant and keeping it out of overdrive climbing any upgrades any other tips for a newbie at pulling a trailer when im on flat terrian can i keep it in overdrive i also need a receiver i heard of a weight distribution type is this necessary for a small trailer like this thanks in advance! 1971 dodge challenger 1978 chrysler le baron 1989 rusty t-bird sport 2001 dodge ram 1500 slt 1989 dodge ram sltspare be sure to load the front of the trailer heavier than the back to reduce swaying at highway speed. you need at least 10% of the total loaded weight of the trailer on the tongue. .

From : tbone

whats the matter tom upset that your right wing idiot got beat. tom - youre the one with the obsession here. and if you doubt that take a look at the amount of posts from you since the debate and how many of them relate to the intended subject of this group. as for me i dont really have an opinion one way or the other - certainly not enough to spend a good chunk of my time debating away on a freakin truck group. if this is true then wtf are you posting in it now then if you didnt have an opinion you should have minded you own business. and according to you everyone should mind their own business except you. nice double standard tom even for a liberal troll like you. and here you are again budd in another part of the thread that has nothing to do with you. now who is it that just wants to argue my point in all this youve pretty much proved over this past year that you dont know what youre talking about when it comes to trucks... now youre hell-bent to prove the same about your political knowledge. and in that youre making astounding progress. keep up the good work. lol really tom then please list a few instances in the past year where i was wrong and dont pussy out of it again like you did in the transmission pump thread. i have never seen anyone with a semi-normal psyche that as much an obsession with remembering the errors of others as you but then as a troll you cant be even semi-normal. perhaps you should look into the mirror oh thats right you can never seem to remember any either. yes once again tom you wield someones error as a weapon against them . .. .it really must suck to have to live like that. what are you babbling about what error am i wielding against who i simply asked him a question before you once again butted in. if he really doesnt have an opinion then why is he in here posting one and if im doing such a good job proving that i know nothing lets see some examples. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

gees budd with your living conditions you should be the last person to say that anybody doesnt know how big business works. and what does my choice of living conditions have to do with it its economical comfortable and when i move i dont have to buy all new furniture learn a new floorplan or re-hang my pictures. and its all that you can afford. now there is nothing wrong with that but stop claiming to be some sort of business genious and superior to me in every way when the proof is in the pudding. one could presume you were run out of where was it new jersey couldnt they and it would be no more presumptuous than your vicious comment troll-boy. run out lol. more like i ran out while the gettin was good. as for a vicious comment it is no worse that the ones you make about me every chance that you get. and who was the one who got suckered into amway not once but twice. wheres your proof that i was suckered in your previous posts about what a scam it was and your hatred for all mlms. i was trying to make a living in a democrat congress controlled economy and i admitted getting involved with that pyramid plan was a mistake but i was also a lot younger then and had a family to feed and shelter. yea it was the democrates fault lol. btw a pyramid and an mlm are not the same thing. perhaps you should look them up. sorry budd but i am fully aware how big business works and it survives the way it does because of ignorant people like yourself. rotflmbo!!!!! sure you understand tom. you understand you dont want anyone to pop your little liberal bubbles about how life the universe and everything works in reality. ok budd keep spinning in you land of denial. the right wing has you so brainwashed that they can feed you cold shit on a paper plate which they pretty much did and you would thank them for their precious offerings like they were god himself. i laugh when i here the conservative candidates claim that they want to give even more unconditional tax breaks to big business to create more jobs here when everyone with a functioning brain knows that it will never happen unless those tax brakes are fully conditional on the type and number of jobs. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

roy wrote although i dont get why jerrys idiot is cutting funding for the va when their case load is increasing but thats another story. actually he didnt cut it roy. what he did was not give the amount the va was asking for and the democrats jumped on it as a tax cut. you can read about it here ....... http//www.factcheck.org/article.aspxdocid=144 now leave my idiot alone will ya ............ this is a good place that cuts down the middle and gives no favorites on either side ............. http//www.factcheck.org/ jerry .

From : tbone

whats the matter tom upset that your right wing idiot got beat. tom - youre the one with the obsession here. and if you doubt that take a look at the amount of posts from you since the debate and how many of them relate to the intended subject of this group. as for me i dont really have an opinion one way or the other - certainly not enough to spend a good chunk of my time debating away on a freakin truck group. if this is true then wtf are you posting in it now then if you didnt have an opinion you should have minded you own business. my point in all this youve pretty much proved over this past year that you dont know what youre talking about when it comes to trucks... now youre hell-bent to prove the same about your political knowledge. and in that youre making astounding progress. keep up the good work. lol really tom then please list a few instances in the past year where i was wrong and dont pussy out of it again like you did in the transmission pump thread. wtf!! all of us are wrong at one time or another. the deal with you is you seem to think that you arent. hell you were dead wrong about the lightning /srt10. i know that all of us are wrong at one time or another but some in here make it a big deal if im not absolutely correct. why is that roy as for the lightning a perfect example of above i was not completely wrong. i said that you needed numbers close to that of the srt10 to beat it and your link pretty much confirms that. putting a fairly high overdrive on the blower and reprogramming the computer and a high flow filter does add some considerable hp to that engine but it does it without increasing the durability of either the engine or drive train. at least one person on that group made these changes and was supproized that it is still running without failure after 10 months. not exactly the definition of reliability there and most of the ones with these mods indicate that they are not using them for towing anymore. now while it does appear to be less expensive to get them to this point than i thought they are not there and completely dependable either and they are at the top of what they can be. the srt10 is only at its beginning. tom with those minor mods if you lost the motor you could by a new short block and do it again and still have saved money. astually you could buy a couple of short blocks. roy .

From : theguy

i know that all of us are wrong at one time or another but some in here make it a big deal if im not absolutely correct. why is that roy i cant answer for roy naturally but i can give my side of it . . . .id just like for you to learn something . . . heck anything about automotive mechanics before you give answers. as for the lightning a perfect example of above i was not completely wrong. i said that you needed numbers close to that of the srt10 to beat it and your link pretty much confirms that. putting a fairly high overdrive on the blower and reprogramming the computer and a high flow filter does add some considerable hp to that engine but it does it without increasing the durability of either the engine or drive train. but you refused the input from persons with racing experience that know you dont always need as much as you claimed. at least one person on that group made these changes and was supproized that it is still running without failure after 10 months. not exactly the definition of reliability there what definition of reliability are you using if its still working as required without any failures from then till now its reliable. face it tom you love to argue or debate over anything. oh yea budd miles gary max and a few others are completely innocent of that lol! never claimed i am innocent but im not as guilty as you. ive never deliberately posted anything to start an argument or flame war which is something you cannot claim. i find it amusing that when others post the political shit it is ok but when i do it and in my case it was really nothing but a header i am the only one doing it. the difference is you posted it to start a flame war troll and have admitted to it. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many tim es he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : roy

i could probably do a better job than bush because frankly he sucks at it. rotflmbo!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am glad that i could bring some joy into your life there buddy. for being the person that refuses to learn anything this has to be the most idiotic thing you could have said. sure budd too bad this is really a case of pkb. the fact is that we were attacked on his watch started a war in iraq for what appears to be no valid reason and with no real plan or strategy no way to pay for it and have lost well over 1000 soldiers so far for no gain at all. actually iraq is more dangerous than ever to its own people never mind us. yea thats the way to build trust and make friends in the mid-east. how would you run a country when you still havent learned how a business operates lol i know full well how business operates. i am not the one who had three failed businesses and got suckered into amway twice. you are the one who is the sheep being led to slaughter and being grateful for the privilege. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

hi i have a 2001 ram 1500 318 2wd with a factory towing pakage and am going to pull a u haul 8 ft. trailer with some furniture from cincinnati to mishawaka indiana about 250 miles. besides double checking the tire pressures tranny fluidand coolant and keeping it out of overdrive climbing any upgrades any other tips for a newbie at pulling a trailer youre not hauling a great deal of weight or an exceptionally difficult trailer. so dont worry a whole lot about it. the truck will tow that just fine; thats what it was built for. just hook it up and go. your turning radius will be a little bit larger so dont cut those right turns too tight. practice backing up in an empty parking lot. first straight then in the turns. use only the mirors dont try looking out the back window. it takes a little practice but quickly becomes easy. when im on flat terrian can i keep it in overdrive i also need a receiver i heard of a weight distribution type is this necessary for a small trailer like this thanks in advance! yes you can. but youll most likely find its a little better to keep it in 3rd. it will run easier because the engine gets up in to its power band a little better and fuel mileage wont change much it will still suck. remember that every time it down shifts under a load it puts a little more strain/wear on the trans. its only 250 miles or so. dont sweat it. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : tbone

bill yea i will agree to all of that it is probably just going to take some getting used to. thanks for your comments good luck with your truck. what i have noticed is that it is more important to have the rpms in a certain range when making your shift and letting the clutch out. takes a little more finesse at feathering the throttle than the fords new process 435 required. i havent noticed what i would call a slap but get more of a thunk in the drive train when it isnt happy with my rpms. usually because my rpms are too low. also the clutch seems to have a longer area in the upper part of the pedal travel where it engages. the bottom third of the pedal travel doesnt seem to effect clutch engagement as much as the upper portion. you can tell its just starting to grab in the lower portion but is halfway up when it really starts to grab. i think we have to learn to shift a little differently with these dodges as they are not as forgiving as the old fords. i still stick by my opinion that our transmissions are a bit weak probably due to the aluminum case. the 3/4 tons come with a cast iron case on the manual transmission. i have no concerns with the clutch. i still love my truck though even if it doesnt have a bullet proof tranny. mine is flame red with the work group package. dark grey bumpers and grill. i havent seen another one like it anywhere. i did see a dark blue one with a utility bed a few months ago that had the work package. bill thanks for your information glad to see someone else is also experiencing some of what im seeing. now that you mention it i will say that 1st-3rd gears are louder than the ford gears but one could only hope that the noise is some of that dodge power pushing that transmission... wishful thinking! ive thought more about what i said regarding the transmission and i did some playing yesterday and i will say the clutch engage point doesnt seem to be on the floor as you would find in other vehicles after a new clutch is installed. the way i see it and maybe you can comment on what you are feeling but i know the clutch is contacting the flywheel the truck is rolling but if i dont take it slow from that point i can feel a slap like something else is slapping the clutch or pressure plate. if i release real slow and easy everything shifts very nicely. i drove a 1987 ford f-150 single cab with the newprocess 4-speed and a inline 6 for 2 years defiantly different than this one. .

From : budd cochran

whats the matter tom upset that your right wing idiot got beat. tom - youre the one with the obsession here. and if you doubt that take a look at the amount of posts from you since the debate and how many of them relate to the intended subject of this group. as for me i dont really have an opinion one way or the other - certainly not enough to spend a good chunk of my time debating away on a freakin truck group. if this is true then wtf are you posting in it now then if you didnt have an opinion you should have minded you own business. my point in all this youve pretty much proved over this past year that you dont know what youre talking about when it comes to trucks... now youre hell-bent to prove the same about your political knowledge. and in that youre making astounding progress. keep up the good work. lol really tom then please list a few instances in the past year where i was wrong and dont pussy out of it again like you did in the transmission pump thread. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : montanajeeperbudd cochran

the only well-known weak link on those engines 98.5 to 02 24v engines is the factory lift pump. any recommended links to teach me more about a lift pump never heard of one as well as links to aftermarket replacements recommendations thanks .

From : budd cochran

i could probably do a better job than bush because frankly he sucks at it. rotflmbo!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am glad that i could bring some joy into your life there buddy. laughing at you not with you troll. for being the person that refuses to learn anything this has to be the most idiotic thing you could have said. liberal drivel snipped how would you run a country when you still havent learned how a business operates lol i know full well how business operates. i am not the one who had three failed businesses and got suckered into amway twice. you are the one who is the sheep being led to slaughter and being grateful for the privilege. lol so how did my businesses fail two were too successful and the third one was turned over to an employee. my businesses my choices tom. none failed. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .

From : budd cochran

on flat roads a 3.54 screw will drag a balanced 7-ton 5th wheel down the highway just fine. out here in montana we dont have to many flat roads. id really hate to start a climb to 11000 feet and run out of power. 90k on the clock of an 01 is about twice where it oughtta be dont you think i figure that many miles on an 01 it has to be highway miles. judging by how immaculate the entire truck is the owner obviously cared about it hopefully enough to properly maintain it. is there some reason you think you -need- a 4 x 4 other than the fact it sits high and looks cool one word - montana. - so long as you stay inside the city limits and even then on the main roads only you can get around with 2 wheel drive most of the time anyway but out here when you leave the city limits or even just the downtown part you are in the middle of nowhere. the unmaintained dirt road is at least just as common as the paved road and even the paved roads arents plowed when it snows. the only roads plowed out here are the main streets through downtown so 4 wheel drive is required. .

From : tbone

how can you make the first statement if you dont know the answers to the questions that follow because engine superiority has nothing to do with the final drive ratio behind it. my ford would probably pull more than my dodge right now because it has superior numbers on paper thanks to chipping and a 4.11 gear ratio but id still rather tow with the big dodge just because the cummins torque curve is more predictable and consistant. theyre both great trucks i just really prefer the cummins at 11000 feet. i thought about putting a cummins in my ford and just keeping it http//fordcummins.com but the expense wouldnt be worth it. .

From : tbone

hey roy what type of atv do you have and what is the average price range for them. i have plenty of area to ride one here in nc and a huge driveway that really would hate to have to hand shovel. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving how do you know did you try it of course. unlike yourself i usually dont make a statement unless it is based on experience. g so tell us all about your machine experiences before the west coast took it over... bg howd i know youd show up here! next we will have that old hippy and red.vbg regards the machine ive yet to see it. iirc red had it up in the nw and wasnt shareing. or was it dale im not too sure. having said that i had screwed up had a bunch of people over a few days ago and they were playing with the putor and somebody had blocked the cookies. no cookies no msn. that is why none of the programs ad-aware spysweeper spybot or stopzilla could do anything. a case of improper operation by the operator. thanks to you and the others who offered solutions. no cookies.... damn sounds like my house. no chocolate chip cookies in months....... i know what ya mean with this diet i havent eaten a cookie since april. chocolate chip cookies and a big wide mouth glass of milk to dunk them in!! you got your blade on the atv yet we got frost on the pumpkins this morning so its getting closer. why did you have to mention that the guy i was telling you about is still on my ear about buying him out and getting back into it. as for the atvnope. it only takes a second to put on. am going to put it on sues machine this winter she doesnt have the full skid plate that id have to remove to put the mounting bracket on mine. roy denny .

From : tbone

hi i have a 2001 ram 1500 318 2wd with a factory towing pakage and am going to pull a u haul 8 ft. trailer with some furniture from cincinnati to mishawaka indiana about 250 miles. besides double checking the tire pressures tranny fluidand coolant and keeping it out of overdrive climbing any upgrades any other tips for a newbie at pulling a trailer practice turning with the trailer in a deserted parking lot so you can get a feel on how you have to turn. maybe even practice backing it up in case you have to on the road. dont speed. slow down if you get in a cross wind. get a set of towing mirrors to hang on your regular mirrors. keep in mind your stopping distances are going to longer even if this small trailer has brakes. when im on flat terrian can i keep it in overdrive i also need a receiver i heard of a weight distribution type is this necessary for a small trailer like this thanks in advance! a standard class 3 hitch should be sufficient for this. good luck. denny 1971 dodge challenger 1978 chrysler le baron 1989 rusty t-bird sport 2001 dodge ram 1500 slt 1989 dodge ram sltspare .

From : tbone

hi i have a 2001 ram 1500 318 2wd with a factory towing pakage and am going to pull a u haul 8 ft. trailer with some furniture from cincinnati to mishawaka indiana about 250 miles. besides double checking the tire pressures tranny fluidand coolant and keeping it out of overdrive climbing any upgrades any other tips for a newbie at pulling a trailer when im on flat terrian can i keep it in overdrive i also need a receiver i heard of a weight distribution type is this necessary for a small trailer like this thanks in advance! 1971 dodge challenger 1978 chrysler le baron 1989 rusty t-bird sport 2001 dodge ram 1500 slt 1989 dodge ram sltspare .

From : theguy

self-admitted troll tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com lol yea i did it. if all of the idiots didnt respond to it nothing would have happened //drivelsnipped// this troll is so dumb he even admits he is a troll a real bonehead. rotflmao! .

From : tom lawrence

dont think that the rims will fit the tyres should tho my grandfather just got in an accident in is 1996 dodge ram 1500 and pretty much totalled the truck. the thing is that he just recently put new tires on it and the insurance agency said that he could switch out those tires for any other ones as long as it has wheels. now i own a 1995 chevy c1500 by any chance would i be able to use the wheels off his dodge justin measure the bolt pattern and offset. if they match then yes. doc .

From : jerry

tbone wrote that was sarcastic budd try reading and comprehending for a change. i notice that none of you are making any comments to lip gloss gigolo flip flop who is doing far more trolling than anything you can accuse me of. oh thats right the crap he is posting over and over with different handles agrees with your idiotic thinking. seems to me all they are doing for the most part is posting stupid quotes from other sources. you on the other had continue to post your own stupid thoughts. yep...... like it or not that makes you the group troll. jerry .

From : tbone

and your usable input into this group is what sad to say the same as yours. johnny .

From : budd cochran

it can be downloaded. it costs $19.95 but they let you download it and try it for free. it works so well my sister bought it. the are also having some type of sale that brings the price down to about $10.00 -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving can stopzilla be found at any software store or can it be downloaded denny add aware will not fix it. stopzilla will. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hi roy try ad-aware from lavasoft. its the best spyware removal tool in my opinion. free software too. it should fix your problem. here is a link http//www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html -- -- regards computer-guru pctech@fdn.com comptia a+ certified professional microsoft certified professional ==================== something keeps hijacking my home page. any page with msn in it gets a message object moved to here clicking here results in nothing. ive run adaware spysweeper spybot and have norton firewall and anti virus all up to date. i know i can use any home page other than msn without any problem but.... any thoughts roy .

From : tbone

as much or more than yours. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. and your usable input into this group is what -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving self-admitted troll tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com lol yea i did it. if all of the idiots didnt respond to it nothing would have happened //drivelsnipped// this troll is so dumb he even admits he is a troll a real bonehead. rotflmao! .

From : theguy

i really hope that if you intend to stay in troll mode that you can do better than this. whats the matter your daddy withhold your allowance again and you had to stay home. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving t-bone fancies himself as somewhat of a political analyst and commentator of sorts which is why he started the political b.s. in this group by posting the comment about his hero kerry. why well ole bonehead errrr t-bone just finished a night class in civics which counts toward his g.e.d. certificate. seems ole bonehead errrr t-bone was asked by the teacher to explain the roe v. wade decision. t-bone said sure and gave the following astute summary of roe v. wade. it was an important decision george washington had to make when he crossed the delaware. johnny .

From : budd cochran

yeah all america needs is someone like kerry who plays games with american lives because he doesnt want people to keep more of the money that they earned! bwaahahahaha! bush has this locked up! yea right! if you actually believed that you wouldnt have bothered to post all of this crap. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

john z kerry wrote what motivates conservative republicans three things ignorance hatred greed no fair! you copied hatred. make up your own words. errrr while were at it what motivates moderate republicans conservative democrats liberal republicans moderate democrats libertarians communists socialists i am waiting with baited breath for your esteemed reply. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses what motivates my employees is more pay so called conservative republicans are neither conservative or republican in their thinking. the are on the extreme right of the political spectrum. they see compromise as a dirty word and will not tolerate a difference of opinion. they live in a black and white world and make things difficult for the rest of us that live somewhere in the gray area of moderation. its the people on the extream left and the extream right that make the rest of us suffer. jam jam .

From : tbone

will do...thanks again gone...i dont see any on the ground though to indicate a leak...does this just get consumed by the truck at a standard pace no it shouldnt. some designs of steering gears will puke fluid out if cycled back and forth without the pump running ie. wheels off the ground turning the steering wheel back and forth. other than that i dont know how you could have lost any fluid outside of a leak. keep an eye on it especially the area around the pitman arm - the seal on the shaft can wear and will cause a leak. .

From : jerry

n971 wrote what can 1 of 100 senators do in comparison to 1 of 1 presidents apples and oranges. write laws vote on laws ........... last i checked the president cant do either. what do you think affects your life more the president saying he wants congress or the senate to do something or the senator that makes laws that that will affect you. jerry .

From : budd cochran

hmm you never did prove i was a failure but everytime you post your insecurity shows. yes i did. i doubt that the grass cutting buisness ever existed and if it did and you were really givng your family that much money and they were still trying to collect welfare that shows what kind of stock you come from. as for the other two both failures were yours for both signing an idiotic contract and the other for not planning ahead. whether you believe or not that i had a lawn service doesnt matter your word has less than zero value for truthfulness. as for the others fine believe what ever your little mind can handle. i hope someday you find yourself in the same situtations. that doesnt sound very christian like of you. and you make the common error of think christians are not allowed to defend themselves or their families. the scripture says to turn the other cheek and god only gave me two. but i doubt you will learn from it. i doubt that i would ever let it happen. ah finally an admission that you are unwilling to learn. thanks! the incident with the post from my sis-in-law no but good point and not even 24 hrs after attacking me for doing the same thing lol. i guess that its ok when you do it though. the difference was i retracted the post and actually learned a bit from the incident. you still argued yours was right. no i didnt and you know it. i actually said the same thing that you did that i got it froma trusted source and didnt check it. that is far from defending it or saying that i was right. and you were the first one to start crap with me about it saying that i dont believe in accuracy and you do and then less than 24 hrs later do the same damn thing. retraction or not you still did it and we all saw it and it wouldnt have mattered at all if you didnt complain about someone else doing it first lol. thats not how i remember it but then you never remember things as i do. are you dredging up about that incident with roy that everyone would forget if you didnt keep dragging it up troll. but then troublemaking is your entire life and joy isnt it wuss lol yep thats the one and why should we forget it. if you were everything that you claim to be then it never should have happened. hell you followed him around posting crap sorta like you tries to do to me. the difference is that i have no problem stooping down to your level while roy did. if you dont want me to bring it up then stop trying to make yourself out to be better than me because history says it aint so. lol history says im better than you when im at my worst and youre just a little idiotic troll. only in that tiny little mind of yours. ditto but your mind on pin point would look like a quark lost in the entire universe. btw this is the first time i ever brought the topic of that incident up. the last 3 or twenty times has always been you throwing in my face little boy. 3 or twenty huh. is this more of that fuzzy math of yours again you also said that you would never bring it up again and here it is. i guess that makes you a liar as well. only because you forced the issue. still your fault. unlike you i dont keep score on things like how many times i show you to be a an idiot. come on tom is that all the better you can do come on see if you can find more to make yourself look like a childish ass. its so funny watching you kicking your heels against the floor like a baby having a temper tantrum. lol now that would be you. every post we are in turns into a crying match started by you. trying to spin out by changing the subject troll what subject would that be your complete idiocy. come on you show us even better what an immature brain dead little idiot you are. youre such a pathetic little crybaby. you havent had the maturity to even comment on the ford website that proves you were wrong about the k$n filters. lol what for. when i do comment you complain when i dont you complain anyway. make up your mind already. i did notice that ford rated k&n as one of the highest flowing filters and iirc said you could see a few extra hp with it in a high performance engine. they even said that economically it could be better because of its reusable nature. and nothing about them destroying an engine. there is that better. so if you really looked at it at all and i doubt you did how did you miss the evidence that said k$n filters pass more dirt which means more wear. i know it doesnt say anything about destroying an engine but it does say the engine will wear faster really where exactly does it say that you are a complete braindead idiot. read the freaking site if you want the answer. im not your mommy and ill not read it to you. which is what i have said all along. you are the one that keeps throwing out the destroying word. no

From : tbone

on wed 13 oct 2004 125229 -0500 john robertson johndanielrobertson@cox-internet.com wrote hi i have a 2003 dodge ram 1500 reg cab 4x2 17 inch wheels and 28000 miles on it. while applying the brake i get a slight jerk in the front. buddy of mine said it could be the brakes are going out but i thought they usually have a device on the pads that will squeek when the brakes are starting to go out. thanks for any advice john re-word your subject line john.. sounds too self effacing.. *g* do you think the jerk is from the brakes or possibly the front end/suspension it should still be under warranty take it in to the jerk.. umm.. i mean the nice man at the dodge dealer and if the truck will reproduce the noise with a tech around a near impossibility let him deal with it.. .

From : tbone

on wed 13 oct 2004 220607 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote then why do you act like one lol act like what budd i forgot with you its not acting when youre an idiotic troll its just the real you peeking thru. do you mean like the old bitter failure that shows in you. hmm you never did prove i was a failure but everytime you post your insecurity shows. yes i did. i doubt that the grass cutting buisness ever existed and if it did and you were really givng your family that much money and they were still trying to collect welfare that shows what kind of stock you come from. as for the other two both failures were yours for both signing an idiotic contract and the other for not planning ahead. kind of bending over that line here arent we just getting a tad on the too personal side tom. i know budd does it too but either one of you could step back a little. ya think so i doubt that. i tried to end this weeks ago but he just refuses to let it happen. if he wants to dish it out then he had better be prepared to get it back. my offer still stands all he has to do is agree to it but we both know that it will never happen. he simply cant resist starting shit with me and he knows it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

lol no more childish than you are for posting it in the first place. its not childish to post a warning about a potentially dangerous source of incorrect information its a public service. lol with all of the incorrect things that you are comming out with you should keep it at the top of all of yur posts as a disclaimer. its funny how you get corrected about 100 times more often than i do. if i were as incorrect as you think the numbers would be reversed but theyre not troll-boy because you are a total mecha

From : budd cochran

went out for lunch only to find the roads leading from my work blocked off by police. kerry and co. are staying at a nearby hotel. had to return back to work hungry! this is 20 miles from the debate center. there are plenty of hotels closer! .

From : jerry

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From : tbone

the african-american middle class is larger than ever and they resent the liberal dumocrats calling them victims. african-american christians are sickened and disgusted by kerrys position on abortion and gay marriage. african-americans look to bushs administration and see the black faces of condoleeza rice and colin powel in the nations highest positions of trust. they look to kerrys inner circle of advisors and campaign staff and see a what jessee jackson calls a vanilla shake. african-americans registering to vote as republicans is at an all time high in the history of the united states. bad for kerry and the liberal dumocrats. just 15 % of the black vote going to bush will cause one of the largest upsets in the american political history of presidential elections. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses african-american owned and operated .

From : tbone

nope. the bengles are going to come alive any week now.............. are they still a member of the nfl ; craig c. .

From : jerry

that bonehead t-bone is responsible for all this political crap. johnny .

From : tbone

lol yea i did it. if all of the idiots didnt respond to it nothing would have happened. and then there is all of the posts from flip flop and lip gloss although they are the same person. sorry to burst the group bubble but i only posted one thread and all it really was is a header. the rest of you took it from there and beyond. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you might want to bear in mind what began this flood of crap the kerry kicked ass thread by our very own t-bone. had he not done that id wager this flood wouldnt have begun. ill be glad when this election is over. dam bonehead errrr t-bone brought all the ot political crap here with his stupid kerry post. johnny .

From : budd cochran

i dont remember kerry saying this. i do remember bush saying it about 6 times. kerry has said it numerous times in various ways. more importantly its been a cornerstone of his campaign and his total concept of the iraq situation is described by that line. im not saying he is wrong ion saying that. however saying that and holding that view doesnt solve the problem. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : budd cochran

sarcasm on true youve never even admitted to it when youve lied. how could i imagine you admitting your savior might not be truthful. sarcasm off -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i have no reason to admit to a lie. bush is just not bright enough to spin it properly and got caught with his pants down pretty much like he did in iraq. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no tom he spun around it ducked it then finally lied. but youll never admit it. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. not really just right wing spin and kerry cleared a lot of that up last night. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving truthfull though. tbone wrote lol like that retarded sig line of yours is any different. .

From : theguy

yes but bush doesnt wear shoes. nobody has told him he needs to. lip gloss kerry wrote this man isnt fit to polish george bushs shoes. how can anyone in their right mind vote for him http//www.republicanandproud.com/kerrylies.htm kerry - the losers candidate. .

From : jerry

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From : max340

check for vacuum leaks i have had this problem ever since i bought this van except that it didnt happen frequently enough for me to notice it but this weekend on my way to santa barbara while travelling at 70mph the thing downshifted! the only way i can correct this problem is to pull over to a complete stop kill the engine and starting it all over again. any of you know anything about this problem .

From : jerry

you might want to bear in mind what began this flood of crap the kerry kicked ass thread by our very own t-bone. had he not done that id wager this flood wouldnt have begun. ill be glad when this election is over. these are irregulars posting. they care even less than us regulars about etiquette and the finer points of group threads. it would be nice if our irregular regulars regular regulars and regular irregulars did not feed these trolls but you didnt hear that from me. besides in this group ot means on topic ;- hey people what happened to using ot- my filter cant work without it. -- .

From : roy

these are irregulars posting. they care even less than us regulars about etiquette and the finer points of group threads. it would be nice if our irregular regulars regular regulars and regular irregulars did not feed these trolls but you didnt hear that from me. besides in this group ot means on topic ;- hey people what happened to using ot- my filter cant work without it. -- .

From : tbone

my daughter has a 1990 d-150 pickup the drivers side wiper has quit passenger side still works . the motor is good and i can see by looking into the cowl grill that the rod to the drivers side has come off the wiper assy. anyone give me the instruction and any gotyas on removing the cowl grill and what parts i may need to repair this thing daily driver for her so she needs to get it repaired soon. replies via email are okay. thanks have a nice day. ldpoos@nopants.juno.com remove nopants to reply by direct e-mail; support the right to privacy and anti-spam projects. .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote the debates are not over and the election hasnt happened yet. then your excitement is a little premature ............. jerry .

From : roy

something keeps hijacking my home page. any page with msn in it gets a message object moved to here clicking here results in nothing. ive run adaware spysweeper spybot and have norton firewall and anti virus all up to date. i know i can use any home page other than msn without any problem but.... any thoughts roy .

From : tbone

having now owned both a powerstroke and a cummins http//www.imageark.net/0002/ykdh9p.jpg ive determined the cummins is far superior. since im not ready to work out of the new dodge ive sold the ford and bought agreed to buy anyway will pick it up monday when the bank opens an 01 2500 cummins 4x4 quad cab short bed auto with 90000 miles to work out of. i wanted a long bed but at $19000 for an extremely clean truck i couldnt let this one get away. im wondering about the stock specs on the 01 cummins. hp/torque/mileage etc. any known problems or other issues any recommendations im also a bit concerned about the 3.54 gear ratio. while it seems very powerful unloaded i wonder how well such a tall gear will pull a load thanks .

From : denny

on 1 oct 2004 205834 -0700 montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote im also a bit concerned about the 3.54 gear ratio. while it seems very powerful unloaded i wonder how well such a tall gear will pull a load i wouldnt worry about it. i pull a 12k 12 ft high 5er with a 98 model ram. ive seen 85 on the flat and only got down to 40 mph coming up the grade from las cruces to alamogordo. .

From : jeff mayner

montanajeeper wrote having now owned both a powerstroke and a cummins http//www.imageark.net/0002/ykdh9p.jpg ive determined the cummins is far superior. since im not ready to work out of the new dodge ive sold the ford and bought agreed to buy anyway will pick it up monday when the bank opens an 01 2500 cummins 4x4 quad cab short bed auto with 90000 miles to work out of. i wanted a long bed but at $19000 for an extremely clean truck i couldnt let this one get away. im wondering about the stock specs on the 01 cummins. hp/torque/mileage etc. any known problems or other issues any recommendations it should be rated 460 lb-ft from 1600-2700 rpm peak hp 235 at 2700 rpm. look on the drivers side of the timing case for the cpl data plate. it will tell you the torque and hp rating and peak rpm. im also a bit concerned about the 3.54 gear ratio. while it seems very powerful unloaded i wonder how well such a tall gear will pull a load thanks how much of a load will you be pulling i have a 99 2500 qc 4x4 short bed auto with the 215 hp 420 lb-ft cummins and the same gears. it tows 6000 lbs in the mountains of tennessee very well. .

From : theguy

at least cite the place you dig-up this crap. debatefacts lol... you are to be ridiculed and then ignored. jeff flip-flop kerry did not write he stole snipped .

From : tbone

says... just checked for that and it is right by the battery on a durango i unplugged it and they went out. thanks alot for the help. if you remember how much was it to replace if you did. check the daytime running light module. unplug it and see if they turn off. if they do and all works like normal it is most likely bad. did this on my grand voyageur. the module was located on the firewall behind engine. if that module is the same one or similar to my 98 caravans headlight relay it is about $35. at least yours got stuck on. ours got stuck off! not good in the dark! i had to drive home with only the drls on! i put in a drl turn signal flasher a while go so at least i could see with the bright turn signal bulbs. chas .

From : tbone

the most truthful thing you can say about kerry is that he is consistently inconsistent. really he seemed fairly consistant during the debate unlike the president. ive never seen a liberal allow his lack of leadership and inconsistency be so publicly exposed. that is because it isnt true just right wing spin and lies. usually its a better kept secret than anything our military has. bush has more than proven his lack in leadership. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

ot in this group are you serious -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hey people what happened to using ot- my filter cant work without it. -- .

From : tom lawrence

lol!!! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yes but bush doesnt wear shoes. nobody has told him he needs to. lip gloss kerry wrote this man isnt fit to polish george bushs shoes. how can anyone in their right mind vote for him http//www.republicanandproud.com/kerrylies.htm kerry - the losers candidate. .

From : theguy

user@domain.invalid wrote so who really knows for sure what happened. this drivel has already been debunked. as usual the righties just regurgitate old false accusations hoping to slip one by. how about the fact that alawi was coached extensively and his speech to congress which bush mentioned last night and pointed to repeatedly as evidence of allawis courage and resolve was in fact written by the wh speechwriters. yeah. bush is one honest dude. lol... jeff flip-flop kerry wrote did kerry write own report of disputed clash october 1 2004 by thomas lipscomb a faded 35-year-old operations order recovered from the naval historical center in washington bears directly on the ongoing dispute between sen. john kerry and the swift boat veterans for truth about who wrote the key after-action report that ended kerrys service in vietnam. the report appears in the official navy records and is posted on kerrys presidential campaign web site. the report details kerrys participation in a naval operation on the bay hap river on march 13 1969 in such glowing terms that he was awarded a purple heart and a bronze star for pulling special forces officer james rassmann out of the water while under heavy enemy fire. this third purple heart allowed kerry to cut short his vietnam tour after only four months. the report in question described a mission of five swift boats ambushed by a mine explosion that seriously damaged one boat while the swift boats received heavy fire from both banks. the fire continued for three miles the report said. roy hoffman the admiral who commanded the swift boats in vietnam finds that detail alone absurd. hoffman a member of the anti-kerry swift boat veterans group says there was never an incident under my command in all of vietnam where my boats were engaged by continuous fire from both banks of a half mile in length much less three. it never happened the report mentions two other mines detonating as well. so according to this report which now stands as the official navy record this swift boat mission concluded by running a three-mile gantlet of enemy fire from both banks the detonation of three mines and yet the only casualties occurred on the boat that hit the first mine. the boats managed to escape and even more miraculously retrieve the sinking boat pcf-3 without getting a single bullet hole in any vessel or crew member. it is miraculous all right because it never happened recalls larry thurlow a kerry critic who commanded the mission. pcf-3 hit a mine; all of my boats directed suppressing fire on both banks expecting the mine to be followed up by gunfire. but after a couple of minutes we ceased firing and took steps to aid the sinking pcf-3 and its injured crew members. there was never a shot fired at us and no additional mines went off either. and if we had been facing gunfire from both sides of three miles of riverbank i would have called in the standby air support. i didnt. after he returned to the united states the following month thurlow was surprised to find that he had received a bronze star himself because of his activities described in the after-action report. when thurlow first saw the report last july he didnt recognize the mission it described. the kerry campaign pointed to thurlows own citation referring to his being under constant enemy small arms fire when the swift boat veterans for truth first contested kerrys account in august. as the commander of the mission normally thurlow would have filed the disputed after-action report. but he denies writing it. and the after-action report supports his denial. it was written by someone designated te 194.5.4.4/1. an operations order by adm. hoffman two months earlier set the format for the designation. the operations order procedures originated by the operational commander of the coastal 11 an thoi unit kerry served with cmdr. adrian lonsdale was the basis for the terms of designation used in this kind of report subsequently. upon seeing the report lonsdale a swift boat veterans for truth member recognized it and recalled the procedures it required as being followed in his command. te refers to a task element which is defined by the numbers to the right which show the command structure over the task element in action. 194 is adm. elmo zumwalt commander of u.s. naval forces in vietnam; 5 is hoffmans swift boat command; 4 is lonsdales command and the last 4 is capt. george elliots swift boat base at an thoi where the boats on this mission were based. the last 1 indicates someone other than the commander of the mission. if the report had been submitted by the mission commander in this case thurlow according to the operations order it would have begun with a c for commander of the task element and the sender would have been cte 194.5.4.4. according to a navy communications expert chief petty officer troy jenkins who has examined the mes

From : tbone

lol yea you keep saying that but it is obvious that you are scared. bush flopped big time and you know it and now it is a race again and all of these post from you shows just how desperate you have become lol! whats the matter not man enough to use a real name or handle. first you were flip flop kerry and now lip gloss kerry. i think that the only one needing lip gloss is you so that you dont chafe georges privates. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving http//www.worldnetdaily.com//article.asparticleid=38535 kerry - the losers candidate. .

From : budd cochran

on sat 02 oct 2004 011025 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote sorry miles but you really are an idiot. everyone is biased to one level or another but fox is way over the top. the fact that they have to tell you that its fair and balanced reporting shows it to be a complete load of shit. tom ill tell you what is a load. really. this whole thread. doesnt matter who won the debate. seems there are a lot of different opinions. will only matter who wins the deal in november. well talk more then. im sure that we will - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : Annonymous

yeah . . .wheres the honey truck * when ya need it -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. * septic tank cleaning truck on fri 01 oct 2004 170014 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote please guy just come out of that full blown conservative closet already nobody is going to get mad at you. bush is simply an idiot and he made that clear in the debate. the constant looks of anger the hesitation in answering questions and his own shift during the debate that he tried to hide by saying he would support a shift in tactics. the funny thing is that all kerry wants to do is change the tactics which is something that bush was up to now unwilling to even consider. you say that he is brave and consistent i say that he is stubborn and stupid. as kerry clearly said iraq didnt attack us and we should have dealt with the taliban afghanistan and bin laden completely before worrying about iraq and saddam but bush rushed in while he could still con the congress and the american people. we rushed into that war with no game plan or exit strategy and are now paying the price for it and so are the people of iraq and this is the man that you want to support if he is so damn good at protecting us then why did 9/11 happen on his watch to begin with if you think that it cant happen again you are either an idiot or just scared and are trying to fool yourself. you support of bush shows it to be the latter. whew! now that is a load. .

From : max340

as my wife keeps saying over and over that bush is catering to the mocho males and females of the us and not the free thinking people of the us that truly want to live in a better world us included. how about a list of g. w. bushs flip flops there are a lot of them. like everytime he goes to the bathroom he has to figure out which way to sit on it. lip gloss kerry wrote kerry vs. kerry kerrys top ten iraq flip flops from first debate view the kerry vs. kerry debate video here http//media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/100104v1.wmv one claimed ill never give a veto to any country over our security. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 preemption must pass global test first. no president though all of american history has ever ceded and nor would i the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the united states of america. but if and when you do it jim you have to do it in a way that passes the test that passes the global test where your countrymen your people understand fully why youre doing what youre doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry would wait on french and russians to defend america. sen. john kerry i would have done what was necessary to know that you had exhausted the available remedies with the french and the russians. msnbcs hardball 10/20/03 two claimed reason for going to war was weapons of mass destruction not the removal of saddam hussein. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry said greatest threat was saddams miscalculation not actual wmds. kerry i would disagree with john mccain that its the actual weapons of mass destruction he may use against us its what he may do in another invasion of kuwait or in a miscalculation about the kurds or a miscalculation about iran or particularly israel. those are the things that - that i think present the greatest danger. he may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the united states. its the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat. cbs face the nation 9/15/02 three claimed this president has made i regret to say a colossal error of judgment. and judgment is what we look for in the president of the united states of america. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry questioned judgment of those claiming saddams capture didnt help u.s. security. those who doubted whether iraq or the world would be better off without saddam hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture dont have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president. cnns capital gang 12/20/03; anne q. hoy dean faces more criticism new york day 12/17/03 four complained we are 90 percent of the casualties and 90 percent of the cost $200 billion - $200 billion that could have been used for health care for schools for construction for prescription drugs for seniors and its in iraq. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry pledged to fund reconstruction with whatever number of dollars it took. nbcs tim russert do you believe that we should reduce funding that we are now providing for the operation in iraq sen. john kerry no. i think we should increase it. russert increase funding kerry yes. russert by how much kerry by whatever number of billions of dollars it takes to win. it is critical that the united states of america be successful in iraq tim. nbcs meet the press 8/31/03 five claimed you dont send troops to war without the body armor that they need. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry said it would be reckless and irresponsible to vote against funding for troops. los angeles times doyle mcmanus if that amendment does not pass will you then vote against the $87 billion kerry i dont think any united states senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. thats irresponsible. what is responsible is for the administration to do this properly now. and i am laying out the way in which the administration could unite the american people could bring other countries to the table and i think could give the american people a sense that they re on the right track. theres a way to do this properly. but i dont think anyone in the congress is going to not give our troops ammunition not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves. were not going to cut and run and not do the job. cbs face the nation 9/14/03 kerry voted against senate passage of iraq/afghanistan reconstruction package that included money for body armor for soldiers. s. 1689 cq vote #400 passed 87-12 r 50-0; d 37-11; i 0-1 10/17/03 ker

From : max340

on sat 02 oct 2004 011025 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote sorry miles but you really are an idiot. everyone is biased to one level or another but fox is way over the top. the fact that they have to tell you that its fair and balanced reporting shows it to be a complete load of shit. tom ill tell you what is a load. really. this whole thread. doesnt matter who won the debate. seems there are a lot of different opinions. will only matter who wins the deal in november. well talk more then. .

From : tbone

finally the only reason that kerry did well at all is that he changed his position one more time. he realized that bush was kickin his ass on his lack of his commitments to a middle eastern solution and he also realized that americans support the bush action in huge numbers. yup you saw that same exact thing i did. suddenly when bush pressed the issue kerry was hammering the ill kill the terrorists button as hard as he could. but mr. kerry what happened to our weapon of negotiation max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : tbone

this man isnt fit to polish george bushs shoes. how can anyone in their right mind vote for him http//www.republicanandproud.com/kerrylies.htm kerry - the losers candidate. .

From : mike simmons

http//www.worldnetdaily.com//article.asparticleid=38535 kerry - the losers candidate. .

From : tbone

kerry vs. kerry kerrys top ten iraq flip flops from first debate view the kerry vs. kerry debate video here http//media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/100104v1.wmv one claimed ill never give a veto to any country over our security. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 preemption must pass global test first. no president though all of american history has ever ceded and nor would i the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the united states of america. but if and when you do it jim you have to do it in a way that passes the test that passes the global test where your countrymen your people understand fully why youre doing what youre doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry would wait on french and russians to defend america. sen. john kerry i would have done what was necessary to know that you had exhausted the available remedies with the french and the russians. msnbcs hardball 10/20/03 two claimed reason for going to war was weapons of mass destruction not the removal of saddam hussein. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry said greatest threat was saddams miscalculation not actual wmds. kerry i would disagree with john mccain that its the actual weapons of mass destruction he may use against us its what he may do in another invasion of kuwait or in a miscalculation about the kurds or a miscalculation about iran or particularly israel. those are the things that - that i think present the greatest danger. he may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the united states. its the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat. cbs face the nation 9/15/02 three claimed this president has made i regret to say a colossal error of judgment. and judgment is what we look for in the president of the united states of america. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry questioned judgment of those claiming saddams capture didnt help u.s. security. those who doubted whether iraq or the world would be better off without saddam hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture dont have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president. cnns capital gang 12/20/03; anne q. hoy dean faces more criticism new york day 12/17/03 four complained we are 90 percent of the casualties and 90 percent of the cost $200 billion - $200 billion that could have been used for health care for schools for construction for prescription drugs for seniors and its in iraq. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry pledged to fund reconstruction with whatever number of dollars it took. nbcs tim russert do you believe that we should reduce funding that we are now providing for the operation in iraq sen. john kerry no. i think we should increase it. russert increase funding kerry yes. russert by how much kerry by whatever number of billions of dollars it takes to win. it is critical that the united states of america be successful in iraq tim. nbcs meet the press 8/31/03 five claimed you dont send troops to war without the body armor that they need. sen. john kerry first presidential debate miami fl 9/30/04 kerry said it would be reckless and irresponsible to vote against funding for troops. los angeles times doyle mcmanus if that amendment does not pass will you then vote against the $87 billion kerry i dont think any united states senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. thats irresponsible. what is responsible is for the administration to do this properly now. and i am laying out the way in which the administration could unite the american people could bring other countries to the table and i think could give the american people a sense that they re on the right track. theres a way to do this properly. but i dont think anyone in the congress is going to not give our troops ammunition not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves. were not going to cut and run and not do the job. cbs face the nation 9/14/03 kerry voted against senate passage of iraq/afghanistan reconstruction package that included money for body armor for soldiers. s. 1689 cq vote #400 passed 87-12 r 50-0; d 37-11; i 0-1 10/17/03 kerry voted nay; highlights of iraq afghanistan measures the associated press 10/17/03 i actually did vote for the $87 billion before i voted against it kerry said.glen johnson kerry blasts bush on protecting troops the boston globe 3/17/04 six said americans in iraq not dying for mistake. pbs jim lehrer are americans now dying in iraq for a mistake kerry no and they dont have to

From : miles

those are called cat back systems and are not factory standard equipment. those kits are available from just about any performance shop or catalog and if you want the same sound look on the mufflers to see who made it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i bought a 99 ram last year. v8 4x4 quad cab. first dodge i have ever owned. it has a dual exhaust system and it sounds rough and mean... actually it ends up being a dual system but comes off the engine as one pipe and then splits into two pipes near the middle of the truck. its in bad shape and i need to get it replaced soon. is this a normal set up or was this piping fabricated by the previous owner i mean if i walk into a muffler shop are they going to be able to put the same piping in with the same sound or is it going to be so unique thats its gonna cost me dearly which then i will probably not be able to convince my wife to spend this extra cash to get a mean sounding dual exhaust truck again!!! is it standard equipment thanks .

From : Annonymous

kerry spot http//www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp blogger and navy seal corpsman matthew heidt of froggy ruminations http//tinyurl.com/4nwr6 writes as to the tora bora issue kerry said that we outsourced the job and therefore missed an opportunity to kill ubl. tell that to the sf a-teams that had infiltrated afghanistan trained and led the northern alliance into battle within a month of 9/11. the unconventional warfare operation conducted by the army in afghanistan will serve as a textbook example of how to conduct uw ops into perpetuity. tell that to the command and control technology guys that were dumping air on tora bora stacking up close air support 10 layers deep. tell that to the seals who spent 9 days searching the caves for signs of osama and finding only fingernails and tooth chips left from the bombing. wrong answer bitch! the invasion of afghanistan by sof affiliated with local fighters will go down in history as a marvel of military strategy and execution. what was kerry thinking that bush was orbiting tora bora in an ac-130 making radio calls and personally directing troops in the field those comments were a slap in the face to the sof community and to general tommy franks. he should definitely be called on this because this is more conclusive proof of his utter disdain for our military. .

From : miles

funny how a wise man needs but one person to inform him of the truth an average person needs but a couple of people and you need a whole country. tom it is you that is in the fantasy land. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. msnbc unbiased what planet are you from fox at least had left leaning critics on the review panel and let them speak . . .except when they only wanted to go into bash mode and not give a review. lol do you sell tickets to that fantasy land that you live in. funny how on fox the right can bash all that they want but if their cowardly representation of the left says anything negative at all they are shut up. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote not really just right wing spin and kerry cleared a lot of that up last night. no he didnt. he again blasted bush for not spending enough in iraq. kerry didnt mention that he voted against the funding for which he now says is needed. is it too much or not enough depends on what month you ask kerry. kerry said bush is not spending enough on homeland security. that budget has been tripled even though kerry voted against any such increases. is it too much or not enough depends on what month you ask kerry. .

From : Annonymous

guess whos endorsing john kerry the communist party of the united states of america cpusa is publicly supporting the election of john kerry. no this is not a typo...you read it correctly. the cpusa has made available on its web site www.cpusa.org an advertisement entitled top ten reasons to defeat bush. this advertisement can be downloaded. the communist party urges readers to place this ad in local papers throughout the country to defeat president bush. .

From : Annonymous

you must understand everything take was taking place when kerry says somethingk. changing ones mind when one has new inputs is not a bad thing that a very good thing. miles wrote tbone wrote the funny thing is that all kerry wants to do is change the tactics bullcrap! kerry is now saying this is the wrong war not just the wrong tactics. two months ago count them two kerry said that had he known what he knows today he still would have voted for this war. two count them two months later he says its the wrong war. two count them two faced kerry and yet he is consitent to you lefties. rofl .

From : Annonymous

i believe maybe bush should have went to the bathroom before he started the debate. oh i forgot thats the end that bush thinks with. theguy wrote on fri 01 oct 2004 170014 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote please guy just come out of that full blown conservative closet already nobody is going to get mad at you. bush is simply an idiot and he made that clear in the debate. the constant looks of anger the hesitation in answering questions and his own shift during the debate that he tried to hide by saying he would support a shift in tactics. the funny thing is that all kerry wants to do is change the tactics which is something that bush was up to now unwilling to even consider. you say that he is brave and consistent i say that he is stubborn and stupid. as kerry clearly said iraq didnt attack us and we should have dealt with the taliban afghanistan and bin laden completely before worrying about iraq and saddam but bush rushed in while he could still con the congress and the american people. we rushed into that war with no game plan or exit strategy and are now paying the price for it and so are the people of iraq and this is the man that you want to support if he is so damn good at protecting us then why did 9/11 happen on his watch to begin with if you think that it cant happen again you are either an idiot or just scared and are trying to fool yourself. you support of bush shows it to be the latter. whew! now that is a load. .

From : tbone

tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote those are called cat back systems and are not factory standard equipment. those kits are available from just about any performance shop or catalog and if you want the same sound look on the mufflers to see who made it. -- thanks for the info. so would i have to install that myself which i wouldnt be able to do or drag all the stuff i ordered from the magazine to a muffler shop and say could you put this on for me these things are actually easier to install than you think the good ones anyway and only require a few tools. the hardest part is getting the old one out but if you haul all of the stuff to the muffler shop most of them will install it for you. i would call ahead though to make sure. they can also custom build one for you if you know what mufflers that you want. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : kens

tbone wrote of course you would discredit this debate your guy lost and every poll says so. muhahaha! two key questions in weekly polls. who is best to handle iraq and who is best to handle war on terrorism bush leads polls strongly on both issues and ya thats what the debate was centered on. in debates every election both sides claim victory. this one is no different. unfortunatly youre hatred blinds you to that fact. http//www.fox.com/story/0293313331600.html lol perhaps you should actually read the fox spin that you posted the link for. the numbers that they are giving are for the national election polls not last nights debate. like i said they are the most biased station on the air in tv. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : jerry

chrome taken from 1998 ram 1500 quad cab. good condition full bumper supports and fog lights included all plastic bits as well. i replaced the front end of my 98 with the front end of a 1999 sport. pick up in sterling or northern va area only. make me an offer i am looking for $100 or so. if i get no responses i will put it on ebay. need to clean out the garage! thanks george 1998 ram 1500 00 sv650 .

From : john smith

well said jim -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. as a catholic i am embarrassed of mr. kerry. in the debate he said he was a catholic and an altar boy lest i remind you that satin was an angel before he was a devil. was his proclamation supposed to mean something like another ribbon on his chest you can trust me im a catholic... you cannot be a true catholic and support abortion period. mr. kerry has stated he doesnt like abortion but cant push his views on the citizens of the us. then i say dont vote at all abstain. but mr. kerry has voted to continue abortion and for state funded abortions. even partial-birth abortions. do you people really know what a partial-birth abortion is let me explain first you do know abortion even full term 9 months is legal in this country. do you know what breach birth is thats when the baby comes out of the womb feet first.. this is a very dangerous for both the baby and the mother. since recorded time doctors would do all they could to turn the baby so it comes out head first. its like dragging a christmas tree through the forest while holding it from the top of the tree each branch gets caught on every other tree. in partial-birth abortion the baby is forced to come out feet first again this can be life threatening for the mother once the baby is completely out of the womb except for its head it is held there while the doctor inserts a scissors like instrument through the back of the neck into the childs brain killing the child. then inserts a suction vacuum cleaner tube in and sucks out the brain then they pull the baby the rest of the way out of the mothers womb. if the doctor slips and the babys head comes out of the womb before he sucks the brain out legally he can not then kill the baby the baby is legally born. .but i am to understand this happens frequently in abortion clinics. i ask you how can any one defend this out right murder of an innocent child can anyone justify this no certainly not. dont believe me ask any doctor to show you where i am wrong. he cant. the catholic faith as well as natural law instructs us that this is immoral and wrong and a grievous sin. no true catholic can participate in an abortion not a mother doctor nurse boyfriend not even a elected official who just votes in a positive way that allows abortions to occur a n d if you are a true catholic you can not vote for a candidate who publicly supports or votes in favor of abortions. otherwise you aint a catholic a real catholic. god bless jim +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ john z kerry wrote kerry was asked to state his position on abortion. as expected in order not to anger his base kerry spun dodged bobbed distorted misrepresented and outright lied all so as not to anger his base. kerry never did state his position just made excuses and lied. bushs reply was a zinger did anybody understand what he kerry just said bush then clearly in so many words stated his position against abortion. is that sound i hear catholic democrats staying home this time or maybe even voting for bush poor dems sooooooo many special interest groups they are terrified of angering. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote and it is ignorant to think that greed is never involved either. there is greed in all walks of life. its ignorance that leads you to believe that most of it exists in businesses. and wh can do that quickly if we want to. true but the left wont allow us to use our own oil. no we need them now. but we do not have them now. and as long as we keep drilling that will never happen that is until we run out when it will be too late. so who pays for your alternatives and as long as we keep oil cheap it will remain that way. not so. in england and elsewhere gas is $6+ a gallon. hybrids and electrics are not popular choices there just as they arent here. more complete bs. americans are simply spoiled and dont want to give up anything unless they are forced to. if you want new technologies you have to make the old way more expensive or more restrictive and that will not happen if we keep exploiting the worlds resources the way that we are until it is too late. bs. you have to make the alternatives work for people the way they need it. hybrids and electrics do not provide the funtionality people need. .

From : tbone

yes roy i have a question about removing the front bumper on a 99 dodge ram 1500 that is posted just a few posts below this one. and for john kerry calling me a fucking nazi im jewish and lost several family members over in the concentration camps so your remark was definitely unappreciated but i realized this is the internet and idiots are in abundance. anyone that can offer an opinion about removing the front bumper concerning my post below would be greatly appreciated. thanks you still holding a grudge 60 years later ....altho..what would i know im just american indian...and german.... just curious...ever been to germany its usenet...grow some skin and nuts or kill your connection. .

From : tbone

on mon 11 oct 2004 191838 -0400 jonathan kaplan insure10@yahoo.com wrote at the yacht club gun club nra meeting country club nascar rallye no offense but we northerners just dont get it us southerners dont get it why you liberal northerners enjoy sitting behind doors and windows with bars and three or four locks in subdivisions that have locked gates and are so restricted that you cant even have a car parked in the driveway. we dont get it walking down streets afraid to make eye contact with people we meet and being afraid to say good morning to them. we dont get it how anybody could be stupid enough to vote for ted kennedy john kerry or hillary clinton or any other tax and spend liberal particularly ted kennedy. i know all of my neighbors names as well as the names of their wives and children and most of their immediate relatives and im not afraid to look at or speak to a single one of them. the house that i have lived in for 18 years has never had a door locked. if a neighbor needs to borrow something they come on in and get it even if we are not at home. the only time that i lock my car doors is in the summer time because i know that if i dont somebody will stack the back seat full of garden vegetables and ive already got more than i can deal with. i dont get it living any other way find any of that in any of the places that i named where democrats are abundant. i do get it why you northerners retire down south in droves and you hardly ever hear of a southerner retiring up north. no offence but im so glad and happy that you dont get it. maybe you will be a northerner wholl stay up there instead of transplanting your yankee-talking ass down here so ill have to start locking my doors sooner. you know what we say about yankees.... no offence a yankee is like a hemorrhoid.... they come down they wont go back up and they are a continuous pain in the ass. so many garys ..so.. clyde .

From : tbone

on mon 11 oct 2004 115216 -0700 azguy jimnazspamout@cox.net wrote on mon 11 oct 2004 072715 gmt nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote ...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. speaking from experience you are wrong. i had a 350 that in normal around town and commuting use would go 1000 miles on a quart. but if i ran it on a high speed trip even for only 200 miles and assuming it was probably already half a quart low to start it would use nearly another quart in that 200 miles. it was like that since i bought it at 24000 miles and it stayed exactly like that up till the time i sold it at 124000 miles. read the comment again. he said a non-tired engine. it wasnt tired. using over a quart of oil every 200 highway miles is not an acceptable consumption rate even by 1967 standards. your 350 engine had significant problems at 24000 miles. this thing must have smoked like a freight train on the highway. it neither smoked nor leaked. it just used quite a bit of oil about a quart every 400 if you read my comments again youll see thats what it adds up to when running long distances at 75 mph.. it sounds like you had the exact same problem outlined in the original question. using one quart of oil in 200 highway miles adds up to using 4 quarts in 800 miles. i suck at math and even i could figure that one out. yup but as my post said it was about a half quart used on the trip not the entire quart. in any case i think you are missing the point i was putting forth which is that its possible for an engine with nothing wrong other then using more oil then is typical with it to burn that much oil and not smoke. i put 100000 additional miles on mine and it never changed in how it performed and always ran like a top it just used more oil then it should. oil is a heck of a lot cheaper then an engine rebuild that will do nothing but save you the cost of a quart of oil a month. would you spend $2000-3000 to rebuild an engine that didnt foul its plugs or fail emissions or do anything bad but use a little too much oil maybe you would. i certainly wouldnt. vertually all manufacturers consider anything over 1 quart in 750 miles to be excessive oil consumption and at that rate an engine will fail an emmission test at least here in ontario. also it will eventually kill the catalytic converter. one quart in 1500km killed the cat on my 3.0 mits and with the cat removed smoke was very evident. with the damaged cat still in the system no smoke was seen - and the engine failed the e-test miserably. with new valve guides reducing the oil consumption and a new cat it passed nicely. .

From : tbone

jerry wrote lolololol .................... come on steve. i lived in phoenix for awhile and made a few trips to nogales and gas smokes and tylenol were never on my shopping list. hell i didnt even carry a shopping list. let me guess. you crossed the border and went a bit to the east where the little red lamps hang on the side of the stores. .

From : budd cochran

well at least the guy was honest. i wonder how the sand got into their tanks at such a high volume to begin with hes thinking possibly a couple of weeks ago when we had all the flooding and such...several stations in charlotte that were underwater are actually getting new tanks installed.. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote are ya sure that it came from the gas station. did you piss anybody off. if i were you i would move quickly on this before they change their pump filters of your gonna have a hell of a time proving it was them. 1-locking caps. 2-checked with the owner today and hes paying for everything. 3-it pays to know the people that you buy from.... turns out i am one of about 50 that have complained in the last week and he found 4 units out in front that didnt have the right filters on them...so its cool...and i was thinking along your lines..hurry the hell up or you eat the bill... we agreed that he would just pay the old mans shop for the parts and labor and wholesale on the parts...so hes getting out easy. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote got a check engine light last night. pulled code with a drb and had a p0302....misfire on cylinder #2. checked cap rotor wire and plug....everythings fine... hummm...at 17000 miles kinda odd...but not out of the realm of possibilities.. so...fire it backup and sure enough..comes back with a 302and a 303.... check a few more items and finally find the problem...fuel pressures dropped considerably...got to love bad gas....lol...dropped the tank and i think the local bp station and i are gonna have a nice long talk about sand.... -- new sig file stolen from alt.autos.corvettes shut up dave. .

From : jerry

miles wrote chauncey gardiner wrote im getting ready to replace the oem tires on this truck p265/70 r17 which have never handled very well in the snow. we live in the sierras in california so we need to deal with snow occasionally but it isnt as much of an issue as it would be if we lived in montana. the snow rarely gets any more than about a foot deep. wed be looking to get some good all-seasons rather than a dedicated snow tire. economy is a concern- at least if a tire were fairly pricey wed want to be sure we could get decent wear out of it. i do plan to check tirerack.com for some ratings but any advice you all could give me would be appreciated as well. the truck has an automatic transmission 4wd has the smaller engine 4.7 and is usually driven with the bed empty. i have had excellent results from the michelin ltx m/s tires. they are not noisy on highway handle great and last along time 60k+. ill second that. great mud a snow traction too. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : roy

gerald levin wrote geez guys isnt this suppose to be a discussion group for dodge trucks only whats with all the political crap there is more crap on this board than information. would someone please get rid of the junk as its taking too long to view discussions about dodges vs. all the b.s. that is floating around. i think there must not be any monitor or hes on vacation but its very frustrating for me and im sure many many others. this group is not moderated. if you have been around very long you will see these things come and go and right now with the elections so close that politics are on everyones minds so this was bound to appear. as soon as the elections are over it will go away. fact is it sometimes gets very boring in small groups like this if a few ot posts arent thrown in sometimes. you could do what most people with more than 24 hours experience with groups do skip over what you dont want to read mark it read or what ever. nobody is forcing anyone to read anything............. jerry .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote how is that cobra coming. did you get it back from paint yet no its still in paint shop prison. every time i talk to him he tells me two weeks. starting to sound like a parakeet. been driving the car around the neighborhood a little. thats pretty fun. it looks like a giant go cart right now -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : jerry

fullname wrote on thu 23 sep 2004 000123 -0400 nospam.clare.nce@snyder.on.ca wrote on wed 22 sep 2004 170802 -0700 the other kevin in san diego skiddz *at* adelphia *dot* net wrote on wed 22 sep 2004 153915 gmt trey treydog90spam@hotmail.com wrote i usually park my truck over night before i crawl under it and let the oil all over my face and half the driveway. and then i always enjoy finding out the oil catch bucket is full from some other dipshit in my house that used it and didnt take it down and empty it at the recycler. tell me. why do they put the oil filter sideways i think i spend more on the clean up then the oil and filter! hehe i feel your pain. i live at the end of a cul-de-sac and have a constant breeze blowing perpendicular to my driveway. with my truck equipped with a 6 lift and big tires the oil pan is a couple feet in the air. without exception each time i drain the oil regardless of how high up i prop the drain pan the breeze blows the oil all over the friggin place. ive started laying down a 10x12 sheet of 4mil plastic and parking the truck on it when i change oil to catch the blowoff. drain and replace the filter takes less than 30 mins. prep and cleanup is well over an hour. hehe you need a drain valve in place of the drain plug with a threaded cap to prevent accidental oil loss. then you remove the plug slip on a chunk of hose and open the drain directing asll of the oil into a jug for disposal/recycling. could be wrong but i think hes referring to the strategic location most oil filters are in usually between a smoking hot exhaust manifold a few sharp metal edges placed at an odd angle with no clear line of sight down and so deep that you can only reach it by either disassembling 1/2 of the vehicle shrouding or burying your arm up to your shoulder inside the engine bay so that when you invariable burn your hand you also twist your shoulder scratch your back & bang your head trying to pull your arm back from the branding its getting. those dumb jerk off engineers probably did it purposely to ensure most people get their cars serviced back at a gm dealer. what a plan eh danyelita .

From : tbone

how is that cobra coming. did you get it back from paint yet -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving stuart wrote guys why doesnt cummins list the fuel consumption by power like g/kwh or g/hph ive been looking everywhere trying to compare cummins efficiency with that of navistar isuzu cat & deutz. nothing! not one single reference to fuel consumption to power ratios. can someone help this kind of information is the key to all worth knowing about diesel engines as far as im concerned. dont you stuart because the number wouldnt mean anything. so dodge lists theirs as 3 g/hph at a steady rpm under a certain load. does that tell you what your mileage will be no it doesnt. and then ford will list theirs as 2.8 g/hph. but it will be at a slightly lower load. and then chevy will list theirs as 2.7 g/hph but at a different rpm. etc. etc. etc. its a useless number that looks good in advertising but anybody with a lick of sense would just ignore anyway. what you want is for the epa to use their standardised test of fuel mileage. does it tell you what your mileage will be again no it doesnt. but at least you have a standardized test for comparison that actually has a reasonable basis in the real world. -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : tbone

in my honest personal opinion i am a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything i offer as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. sure troll-boy in your dreams . . so how come you have 3 or more people pointing out your screw ups all the time and i rarely get corrected by anyone gee its because you dont know anything. what 3 are you talking about as if you dont know another lie troll-boy i simply asked who and once again you were unable to answer how typical. i know who they are and so do you. no i dont now answer the question. spin and duck troll boy but you still made the implication. nope that was you but if you say im wrong prove it. this is not a long thread show me where. you claim youre not implying it so you prove youre not. lol sorry budd but you were the one who made the accusation. i simply said that you were once again lying and wrong. in this countyr people are innocent until proven guilty. you accused me i denied it and now you must either prove it or shup up. well as your so fond of pointing out when you need to cover your butt again this is the internet. now just for the fun of oit back up your point for once troll. oh i see you are trying to cover your butt. from what i can see you have a hell of a lot to cover. no tommy-troll you lose. drag racing generally only allows one hour between rounds to make repairs re-tune or whatever. the turbo enthusiates will change a compressor a scroll a core a complete turbo or adjust a wastegate in that time period. a supercharger car has the same restrictions. heck aa/fd guys do a complete overhaul in that time frame. that is exactly my point they can do an entire overhaul in an hour. are you now saying that a pulley swap is at the same difficulty level and requires the same tools as an engine overhaul. who is talking about drag racing anyway we are talking about street cars here and the people who own them. sorry budd but you really tangled yourself up in your spin this time. no troll-boy in your effort to cover your butt you missed the point that changing a turbos output is doable at home and it doesnt take a rocket scientist . . .with training you could even do it. the only one twisting to cover their butt is you. i never said that it couldnt be done only that it was harder than changing a set of pulleys and therefore not in the same modificatin class. spin all you want you are still full of it and wrong. thats exactly where you lose the point and the discussion . . .it isnt any harder to do. hahahahahaha yea right. please give a step by step description of each. point its not as difficult as you in your lack of knowledge or experience claim. i didnt say that it was. what i said despite your spin was that rebuilding a turbo is more difficult than swapping out a set of pulleys. and my point is that you dont know what youre talking about again. but the only point you have budd is on the top of your head. i said that the two are not in the same modification class and you know it but feel free to keep spinning its fun to watch. yes they are no matter how you try to spin it. stay on topic troll or shut up. you are really beginnig to show your lack of knowlege here budd. lol where did i say i worked for dodge tommy-troll oh my error sorry about that. you said that you spent 6 months as the mopar v-8 tech on a turbocharging site. i thought that you had actual experience. i guess thats why you are hear now not knowing what actually regulates boost pressure. did that site shut down now please explain how the waste gate effects spool up times. unlike you i know of more than one way to regulate boost on turbo centrifugal and positive displacement systems. lol really name a few and stick with turbos. lol ok one radiator pressure caps. figure out how. hahahahahahahaha complete bs. explain why you think it doesnt effect spooling time. i knw why it doesnt. explain why you think it does. and why doesnt it like i said before you made the claim. now eother nback it up or admit to your error. and you say that i dont learn lol. and your knowledge of automotive mechanics is as usual underwhelming. and yet superior to yours in many areas. lol name a couple dozen troll-boy. i have yet to see any praises for your answers to questions. a couple dozen what i hve been thanked by many newbies in here. lol yeah right ... and they disappear because your inaccuracy cost them a ton of money and they got mad enough to not come back again. no they either got what they came for or they got tired of hearing shit from people like you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not

From : budd cochran

maxpower wrote you r wrong bill i already said that i didnt realize in my previous post that john was talking about different gearing. is that what you are referring to if so whats your point if not then what exactly are you referring to that i was wrong about bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter x ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 100000 groups ---= east/west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =--- .

From : philip

beekeep wrote on fri 01 oct 2004 032457 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote need i say more if he did why the long face beekeep - .

From : miles

tbone wrote lol do you sell tickets to that fantasy land that you live in. funny how on fox the right can bash all that they want but if their cowardly representation of the left says anything negative at all they are shut up. -- it simply amazes me how otherwise intelligent people cannot see that. .

From : theguy

budd cochran wrote of course you did not watch the fox channel report on it . . . it was the only unbiased report. lol!!! good one!!! .

From : miles

john smith wrote http//.myway.com/politics/article/id/430390|politics|10-01-20040627|reuters.html i wonder if kerry can run for president of iraq too if i could vote in the french election id vote for saddam! i hope insanity isnt catching through usenet. .

From : tbone

dodgeram2500 wrote nosey wrote small snip misc.activism.progressive where this message originated from. guess again. alt.political.spamming.whackos .

From : tbone

oh gee your just sooo tuff. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you probably only have two. one would be just at the input of the converter usually on top and the other one is where you found it. shut the fuck up troll .

From : philip

these things are actually easier to install than you think the good ones anyway and only require a few tools. the hardest part is getting the old one out but if you haul all of the stuff to the muffler shop most of them will install it for you. i would call ahead though to make sure. they can also custom build one for you if you know what mufflers that you want. shut the fuck up troll .

From : tbone

tbone wrote the funny thing is that all kerry wants to do is change the tactics bullcrap! kerry is now saying this is the wrong war not just the wrong tactics. two months ago count them two kerry said that had he known what he knows today he still would have voted for this war. two count them two months later he says its the wrong war. two count them two faced kerry and yet he is consitent to you lefties. rofl .

From : tbone

on fri 01 oct 2004 170014 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote please guy just come out of that full blown conservative closet already nobody is going to get mad at you. bush is simply an idiot and he made that clear in the debate. the constant looks of anger the hesitation in answering questions and his own shift during the debate that he tried to hide by saying he would support a shift in tactics. the funny thing is that all kerry wants to do is change the tactics which is something that bush was up to now unwilling to even consider. you say that he is brave and consistent i say that he is stubborn and stupid. as kerry clearly said iraq didnt attack us and we should have dealt with the taliban afghanistan and bin laden completely before worrying about iraq and saddam but bush rushed in while he could still con the congress and the american people. we rushed into that war with no game plan or exit strategy and are now paying the price for it and so are the people of iraq and this is the man that you want to support if he is so damn good at protecting us then why did 9/11 happen on his watch to begin with if you think that it cant happen again you are either an idiot or just scared and are trying to fool yourself. you support of bush shows it to be the latter. whew! now that is a load. .

From : jerry

john smith wrote http//.myway.com/politics/article/id/430390|politics|10-01-20040627|reuters.html i wonder if kerry can run for president of iraq too if i could vote in the french election id vote for saddam! what a crock. keep your silly head in the sand like the rest of your right-wing-whacko buddies. bush sends mixed signals on terrorism at last nights debate president bush said that we could not hope to defeat terrorists if we have a leader who sends mixed signals. bush said you cannot lead if you send mixed messages. mixed messages send the wrong signals to our troops. mixed messages send the wrong signals to our allies.1 but throughout his presidency bush has sent mixed messages on fundamental terrorism-related issues. for example in september 2001 bush said that he was determined to capture osama bin laden dead or alive.2 six months later bush said i dont know where he is. you know i just dont spend that much time on him... i truly am not that concerned about him.3 in april of this year bush said that we could win the war on terrorism.4 then on august 30 he said i dont think you can win the war on terror.5 the next day he said make no mistake about it we are winning and we will win the war on terror.6 sources 1. transcript does bush see kerry character flaws cnn.com 10/01/04 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=60179. 2. wanted dead or alive abc 9/17/01 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=60180. 3. president bush holds press conference the white house 3/13/02 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=60181. 4. president addresses the nation in prime time press conference the white house 4/13/04 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=60182. 5. bush you cannot show weakness in this world today show 8/30/04 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=60183. 6. remarks by the president of the american legion the white house 8/31/04 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=60184. .

From : philip

bush misled nation in last debates as president bush takes the stage tonight for the 2004 presidential debates america will be reminded of all the promises bush made - and subsequently broke - in his debate performances throughout 2000. in a 2000 debate bush said that by far the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the economic ladder. according to the nonpartisan citizens for tax justice when his tax cuts are fully implemented in 2010 the top 5 percent of income earners will get more than half the tax cuts while the bottom half of americans will receive less than 8 percent of the benefits.1 in a 2000 debate bush said he believed gay marriage is a state issue.2 then in 2004 he proposed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.3 in a 2000 debate bush promised not to overuse the military saying if we dont stop extending our troops all around the world and nation building missions then were going to have a serious problem coming down the road and im going to prevent that.4 now because of bushs actions in iraq and efforts to cut soldiers pay5 the military is facing recruitment gaps6 morale problems7 and troops who are stretched far too thin.8 sources 1. details on the bush tax cuts so far citizens for tax justice fall 2003 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59934. 2. transcript of the south carolina republican debate cnn.com 2/15/00 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59935. 3. president calls for constitutional amendment protecting marriage the white house 2/24/04 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59936. 4. the first presidential election debate australianpolitics.com 10/03/00 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59937. 5. troops in iraq face pay cut pentagon says tough duty bonuses are budget-buster san francisco chronicle 8/14/03 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59938. 6. numbers challenge abc.com 6/02/04 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59939. 7. troop morale in iraq hits rock bottom christian science monitor 6/07/03 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59940. 8. is the army stretched too thin nbc nightly 3/09/04 http//daily.misleader.org/ctt.aspu=2937329&l=59941. .

From : budd cochran

lol you only say that because they dont agree with your heavily biased views like fox does but the funny thing is that most of them are owned by conservatives so i doubt that they could be all that heavily biased and still keep their jobs. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote lol perhaps you should actually read the fox spin that you posted the link for. the numbers that they are giving are for the national election polls not last nights debate. like i said they are the most biased station on the air in tv. all media is heavily biased and you seem blind to that fact. cbs is by far the most biased and they got caught red faced too. cnn abc and msnbc are only slightly better. .

From : budd cochran

lol -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i think only part of the conversation was captured by c-span. here is the transcript of the actual conversation. mccurry what were your impressions of the debate lockhart kerry kicked his can it was great. i am hungry. i want to go to wendys for dinner. mccurry i want to go to mcdonalds besides you know kerry cant stand wendys after that marine incident. lockhart then it is a draw. the consensus is it was a draw. mccurry kerry will break the tie with his strong leadership when he is finished giving interviews about how he thrashed bush in the debate. lockhart great idea kerry is very decisive. mccurry i hope we go to mcdonalds. they spell their name real cool like me. need i say more ill bear that in mind when im looking for a good debater. oh and then theres another unbias opinion. lockhart debate consensus a draw unbeknownst to kerry adviser mike mccurry a c-span camera quietly followed mccurry as he found kerry adviser joe lockhart on spin alley floor and asked him his impression of the debate. lockhart candidly said to mccurry the consensus is it was a draw. .

From : budd cochran

no tom he spun around it ducked it then finally lied. but youll never admit it. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. not really just right wing spin and kerry cleared a lot of that up last night. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving truthfull though. tbone wrote lol like that retarded sig line of yours is any different. .

From : tbone

everythings is unscrewed and unbolted but the windings seem like they are welded to the diode pack and dont allow enough room to unbolt the pack. is there a secret way to do this tanks.. .

From : tbone

need i say more ill bear that in mind when im looking for a good debater. .

From : tbone

stirring up trouble again tom actually hes just a common garden variety troll and not a really good one either. ten on the troll scale. a lower troll reading indicates more thought went into a sophisticated troll. is this the best that you can do maggot -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

please guy just come out of that full blown conservative closet already nobody is going to get mad at you. bush is simply an idiot and he made that clear in the debate. the constant looks of anger the hesitation in answering questions and his own shift during the debate that he tried to hide by saying he would support a shift in tactics. the funny thing is that all kerry wants to do is change the tactics which is something that bush was up to now unwilling to even consider. you say that he is brave and consistent i say that he is stubborn and stupid. as kerry clearly said iraq didnt attack us and we should have dealt with the taliban afghanistan and bin laden completely before worrying about iraq and saddam but bush rushed in while he could still con the congress and the american people. we rushed into that war with no game plan or exit strategy and are now paying the price for it and so are the people of iraq and this is the man that you want to support if he is so damn good at protecting us then why did 9/11 happen on his watch to begin with if you think that it cant happen again you are either an idiot or just scared and are trying to fool yourself. you support of bush shows it to be the latter. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on fri 01 oct 2004 130637 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote no he was just upset because he also knows that kerry won that debate. if you believe that tom they you have really bought in to the art of deception of reality that the political machines call spin. no one wins a debate like that. according to the independent polls as a result of the debate the people that were going to vote for bush are still going to vote for bush. the people that were leaning toward bush are now more likely to vote for bush. the people that were going to vote for kerry the poor lost souls are still going to vote for kerry. the people that were leaning toward kerry are no more likely to vote for kerry. the truly undecideds are still truly undecided. it really didnt change a thing. it is very rare when a debate changes a thing. listening to the political experts they are all over the place about who won. really seems to depend on whom they supported before the debate. this was really a non event. finally the only reason that kerry did well at all is that he changed his position one more time. he realized that bush was kickin his ass on his lack of his commitments to a middle eastern solution and he also realized that americans support the bush action in huge numbers. so now he would have just done a better job at protecting america from terrorists than bush did. he would just be a better bush in the middle east. that guy is such a fuckin joke. how can you even support him hes a ghost man. he is nothing he stands for nothing he says nothing. .

From : miles

lol and what about bush saying that there are currently 100000 well iraqi police men when the said immediately after the debate that the actual figure is more like 50000 and nobody is sure just how well trained they are. mistakes happen miles. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote but he did look far more presidential than bush and held his own and shut down quite a few of bushs attempts at spin. what no mention of kerrys spin and flat out fups plutonium in n. korea bushs embargo on iran kerry is clueless but look above tbone you note only what kerry shut down. bush corrected kerry on many flat out goof ups. i mentioned 2 but of course they mean nothing to you. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote not really just right wing spin and kerry cleared a lot of that up last night. no he didnt. he again blasted bush for not spending enough in iraq. kerry didnt mention that he voted against the funding for which he now says is needed. is it too much or not enough depends on what month you ask kerry. kerry said bush is not spending enough on homeland security. that budget has been tripled even though kerry voted against any such increases. is it too much or not enough depends on what month you ask kerry. lol no he voted against funding when there was no way to pay for it iow bush didnt plan anything he just rushed into it. now you claim that he tripled the budget on homeland security but how much are we spending on it when compared to this war in iraq. it is not a matter of what month you ask it is a matter of the right wing spin of the month. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote lol you only say that because they dont agree with your heavily biased views like fox does but the funny thing is that most of them are owned by conservatives so i doubt that they could be all that heavily biased and still keep their jobs. oh really you really do listen to propaganda as the left does so often. do some research on sumner redstone kirk pickerel rick kaplan and scott moore just to name a few of the medias ceos. geez some peoples kids should not be allowed to vote. .

From : tbone

http//.myway.com/politics/article/id/430390|politics|10-01-20040627|reuters.html i wonder if kerry can run for president of iraq too if i could vote in the french election id vote for saddam! .

From : tbone

not really just right wing spin and kerry cleared a lot of that up last night. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving truthfull though. tbone wrote lol like that retarded sig line of yours is any different. .

From : theguy

the most truthful thing you can say about kerry is that he is consistently inconsistent. ive never seen a liberal allow his lack of leadership and inconsistency be so publicly exposed. usually its a better kept secret than anything our military has. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. on fri 01 oct 2004 130637 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote no he was just upset because he also knows that kerry won that debate. if you believe that tom they you have really bought in to the art of deception of reality that the political machines call spin. no one wins a debate like that. according to the independent polls as a result of the debate the people that were going to vote for bush are still going to vote for bush. the people that were leaning toward bush are now more likely to vote for bush. the people that were going to vote for kerry the poor lost souls are still going to vote for kerry. the people that were leaning toward kerry are no more likely to vote for kerry. the truly undecideds are still truly undecided. it really didnt change a thing. it is very rare when a debate changes a thing. listening to the political experts they are all over the place about who won. really seems to depend on whom they supported before the debate. this was really a non event. finally the only reason that kerry did well at all is that he changed his position one more time. he realized that bush was kickin his ass on his lack of his commitments to a middle eastern solution and he also realized that americans support the bush action in huge numbers. so now he would have just done a better job at protecting america from terrorists than bush did. he would just be a better bush in the middle east. that guy is such a fuckin joke. how can you even support him hes a ghost man. he is nothing he stands for nothing he says nothing. .

From : miles

on fri 01 oct 2004 130637 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote no he was just upset because he also knows that kerry won that debate. if you believe that tom they you have really bought in to the art of deception of reality that the political machines call spin. no one wins a debate like that. according to the independent polls as a result of the debate the people that were going to vote for bush are still going to vote for bush. the people that were leaning toward bush are now more likely to vote for bush. the people that were going to vote for kerry the poor lost souls are still going to vote for kerry. the people that were leaning toward kerry are no more likely to vote for kerry. the truly undecideds are still truly undecided. it really didnt change a thing. it is very rare when a debate changes a thing. listening to the political experts they are all over the place about who won. really seems to depend on whom they supported before the debate. this was really a non event. finally the only reason that kerry did well at all is that he changed his position one more time. he realized that bush was kickin his ass on his lack of his commitments to a middle eastern solution and he also realized that americans support the bush action in huge numbers. so now he would have just done a better job at protecting america from terrorists than bush did. he would just be a better bush in the middle east. that guy is such a fuckin joke. how can you even support him hes a ghost man. he is nothing he stands for nothing he says nothing. .

From : tbone

truthfull though. tbone wrote lol like that retarded sig line of yours is any different. .

From : tbone

steve k wrote i bought a 99 ram last year. v8 4x4 quad cab. first dodge i have ever owned. it has a dual exhaust system and it sounds rough and mean... actually it ends up being a dual system but comes off the engine as one pipe and then splits into two pipes near the middle of the truck. its in bad shape and i need to get it replaced soon. is this a normal set up or was this piping fabricated by the previous owner i mean if i walk into a muffler shop are they going to be able to put the same piping in with the same sound or is it going to be so unique thats its gonna cost me dearly which then i will probably not be able to convince my wife to spend this extra cash to get a mean sounding dual exhaust truck again!!! is it standard equipment thanks its not standard equipment. take a close look at the muffler ans see what the brand is that affects sound quality more than anything else. a good custom muffler shop should be able to easily reproduce what you have. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : tbone

lol like that retarded sig line of yours is any different. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving by political trolling which you tend to do. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. how is this stirring up trouble -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving stirring up trouble again tom -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. need i say more -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

no he was just upset because he also knows that kerry won that debate. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving actually he was questioning if it was the best you can do tom. lol -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. stirring up trouble again tom actually hes just a common garden variety troll and not a really good one either. ten on the troll scale. a lower troll reading indicates more thought went into a sophisticated troll. is this the best that you can do maggot -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

msnbc unbiased what planet are you from fox at least had left leaning critics on the review panel and let them speak . . .except when they only wanted to go into bash mode and not give a review. lol do you sell tickets to that fantasy land that you live in. funny how on fox the right can bash all that they want but if their cowardly representation of the left says anything negative at all they are shut up. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran

tbone wrote please budd even fox itself admits to their bias. funny how the most right wing station in history is the only one with an unbiased report. tell ya what budd go onto msns web page and look at the voting results there. while is is not a scientifically valid survey as they say it is unbiased since they have no control over who goes there and see what their results are and btw msnbc is almost as right wing as fox. too funny. do equal numbers of dems and reps go to msnbc or cnn or fox for that matter results of so called experts is mixed too. heck even heavily biased cbs says it as a draw. http//www.cbs.com/stories/2004/10/01/politics/main646711.shtml .

From : budd cochran

by political trolling which you tend to do. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. how is this stirring up trouble -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving stirring up trouble again tom -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. need i say more -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

msnbc unbiased what planet are you from fox at least had left leaning critics on the review panel and let them speak .. . .except when they only wanted to go into bash mode and not give a review. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. of course you did not watch the fox channel report on it . . . it was the only unbiased report. -- budd please budd even fox itself admits to their bias. funny how the most right wing station in history is the only one with an unbiased report. tell ya what budd go onto msns web page and look at the voting results there. while is is not a scientifically valid survey as they say it is unbiased since they have no control over who goes there and see what their results are and btw msnbc is almost as right wing as fox. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving of course you would discredit this debate your guy lost and every poll says so. the fact is that kerry kept his cool and answered clearly while bush looked angry at times and avoided some questions and this was his bushs strongest subject. i now look forward to the next two debates. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hard core dems/kerry fans will always say that and reps will say bush kicked ass. same as every debate. two points cracked me up though. kerrys talk about n. koreas plutonium and kerrys talking about bushs iran embargo. plutonium bushs embargo lol but bush had his moments too. same as any debate just a bunch of nothing from both sides. tbone wrote need i say more -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : zell

i bought a 99 ram last year. v8 4x4 quad cab. first dodge i have ever owned. it has a dual exhaust system and it sounds rough and mean... actually it ends up being a dual system but comes off the engine as one pipe and then splits into two pipes near the middle of the truck. its in bad shape and i need to get it replaced soon. is this a normal set up or was this piping fabricated by the previous owner i mean if i walk into a muffler shop are they going to be able to put the same piping in with the same sound or is it going to be so unique thats its gonna cost me dearly which then i will probably not be able to convince my wife to spend this extra cash to get a mean sounding dual exhaust truck again!!! is it standard equipment thanks .

From : beekeep

tbone wrote of course you would discredit this debate your guy lost and every poll says so. muhahaha! two key questions in weekly polls. who is best to handle iraq and who is best to handle war on terrorism bush leads polls strongly on both issues and ya thats what the debate was centered on. in debates every election both sides claim victory. this one is no different. unfortunatly youre hatred blinds you to that fact. http//www.fox.com/story/0293313331600.html .

From : ramworker

you are forgetting the key point here jeff do as they say not as they do. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving nosey wrote dodgeram2500 wrote nothing. president bush continues to big snip 8------------------------------------ if i wanted to read this spam i would have already subscribed to misc.activism.progressive where this message originated from. maybe you shouldnt have replied since it was marked ot jeff this crap is always infiltrating non political groups and consistently spawns the most absurd discussions. please do not reply to this post. you just did. ;- jeff .

From : ramworker

need i say more ill bear that in mind when im looking for a good debater. oh and then theres another unbias opinion. lockhart debate consensus a draw unbeknownst to kerry adviser mike mccurry a c-span camera quietly followed mccurry as he found kerry adviser joe lockhart on spin alley floor and asked him his impression of the debate. lockhart candidly said to mccurry the consensus is it was a draw. .

From : tbone

dakota wrote dakota wrote ok so going back to my original question... does anyone know what the gear ratios are in the 1997 dakota v6 manual transmission http//dodgeram.org/tech/transmission/nv3500spec.htm thanks for posting this link. they mention that the nv3500 was used with the 3.9l v6 but that was in the ram application. im still not entirely sure if thats whats in my 1997 v6 dakota. there was another 5-speed manual transmission used in the late 90s dodge trucks called ax-15 which may be what i have. if anyone knows for sure please let me know... http//www.dakota-truck.net/infosheet.html says ax-15 through 1996. http//www.truckworld.com/truck-tests/1996-dodge-dakota/1996-dodge-dakota.html says the five-speed manual choices are the as82 and heavier-duty nv3500 v-8 only for 1997. so youve made progress its an as82. .

From : budd cochran

nosey wrote dodgeram2500 wrote nothing. president bush continues to big snip 8------------------------------------ if i wanted to read this spam i would have already subscribed to misc.activism.progressive where this message originated from. maybe you shouldnt have replied since it was marked ot jeff this crap is always infiltrating non political groups and consistently spawns the most absurd discussions. please do not reply to this post. you just did. ;- jeff .

From : hen

i also have the same occasional noise on my 96 club cab. dont know about you but i have those plastic window shades around the front windows they have a small hole that allows air to blow thru so as not to blow them off ..i assume. when driving into a wind or at high speeds it will sometimes vibrate or sound like blowing across a bottle but it doesnt do it all the time. not sure if there is a fix hi all anyone ever hear of this problem i just picked up the sweetest 96 dakota club cab with a real nice leer canopy. no problems i even hassled the dealer until he replaced the front brakes before i bought it. so then im driving home on the freeway and above 75mph i hear this crazy vibrating moaning/groaning sound. i knew it wasnt a mechanical noise because it was just too resonant. at first i figured it was harmonics from the wind beating between cab & canopy. but then i put a hand on the drivers side window and it was vibrating like the reed in a woodwind instrument. as soon as i cracked the window it went away. put it back up and at speeds above 75 this is l.a. after all - if the freeway is clear people are known to do 90 the window hums like the paper in a kazoo. any ideas on a fix the window channel felt is in great shape and the power window regulator seems to be pushing the window all the way up. no sounds of wind leaking thru just a crazy resonance with the wind. also im selling the leer canopy. its white and will fit a short-bed or a club cab model. $150 pick it up in the l.a. area. email me at patbsutton@hotmail.com .

From : hen

of course you did not watch the fox channel report on it . . . it was the only unbiased report. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. of course you would discredit this debate your guy lost and every poll says so. the fact is that kerry kept his cool and answered clearly while bush looked angry at times and avoided some questions and this was his bushs strongest subject. i now look forward to the next two debates. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hard core dems/kerry fans will always say that and reps will say bush kicked ass. same as every debate. two points cracked me up though. kerrys talk about n. koreas plutonium and kerrys talking about bushs iran embargo. plutonium bushs embargo lol but bush had his moments too. same as any debate just a bunch of nothing from both sides. tbone wrote need i say more -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

stirring up trouble again tom actually hes just a common garden variety troll and not a really good one either. ten on the troll scale. a lower troll reading indicates more thought went into a sophisticated troll. .

From : budd cochran

of course you would discredit this debate your guy lost and every poll says so. the fact is that kerry kept his cool and answered clearly while bush looked angry at times and avoided some questions and this was his bushs strongest subject. i now look forward to the next two debates. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hard core dems/kerry fans will always say that and reps will say bush kicked ass. same as every debate. two points cracked me up though. kerrys talk about n. koreas plutonium and kerrys talking about bushs iran embargo. plutonium bushs embargo lol but bush had his moments too. same as any debate just a bunch of nothing from both sides. tbone wrote need i say more -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

most of the aftermarket radios have a wire that provides 12 volts to actuate the power antenna and/or amplifier contactor relay. it is limited to about 160 milliamperes 1/6 amp of load. if your antenna or amp requires direct application of 12 volts youll need a relay to handle the current. the last one i bought was a 30-amp relay actuated by 120 milliamperes. theyre about an inch square and $5.65 from radio shack. if you need the part number let me know. rick hi i must have the same problem. just changed to an aftermarket radio and the sound in the back is now only thru the tweeters. i suspect that my infinity amp isnt being powered on. there is a 2 wire plug with 3v on both wires. and a black ground type plug that went on a quick connect terminal but it is not continuous with ground. how do i wire the amp connector doesnt seem to be any mention in the reciever manual. - miles .