K&N filter for 04' HEMI

From : badasshemi

Q: does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. .

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From : clyde

on thu 06 may 2004 200024 -0400 badasshemi mixtj@msn.com wrote well i have to say thanks for all the input. i have not heard of the problems with the k&n before. i was looking to boost the power as much as increasing the airflow will allow. since you all know more than i any suggestions on what may help the intake system how about exhaust thanks would you torque that k&n with a needle type or a clicker type torque wrench so many garys ..so.. clyde .

From : cbhvac stephen

not to mention the needle type are far more accurate. -- steve ========= unless....of course you get a digital feedback unit.. clyde wrote would you torque that k&n with a needle type or a clicker type torque wrench with a k&n filter you can hear the inrush of the increased airflow. you torque the air intake cover nut to maximize this inrush sound. you have to use the needle type torque wrench because the inrush is so loud you wont be able to hear the clicker type. .

From : steve barker

not to mention the needle type are far more accurate. -- steve ========= clyde wrote would you torque that k&n with a needle type or a clicker type torque wrench with a k&n filter you can hear the inrush of the increased airflow. you torque the air intake cover nut to maximize this inrush sound. you have to use the needle type torque wrench because the inrush is so loud you wont be able to hear the clicker type. .

From : miles

msyjsy wrote sometimes i think that cost per mile driven is actually less of hardship than it was in the seventies if you take inflation into account the gas prices of the 70s were higher than they are today. .

From : redneck tookover hell

lol well put. because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! cheese and rice!! i wouldnt throw a fram on the ground much less put it in my vehicle. guess all the experts have weighed in next time youre at the drag races and see the fuel cars check out the oil filter they are running then go to the alky guys and take a look at what they are running for oil filters oh and if you cant afford the ticket then consumer reports has some info for you on fram filters happy reading boys politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

whered you crawl out from pussy boner kick you out probably went to ma to get married to your right hand aka mary palm and her five sisters politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : theguy

on 21 may 2004 055251 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote lol well put. because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! cheese and rice!! i wouldnt throw a fram on the ground much less put it in my vehicle. guess all the experts have weighed in next time youre at the drag races and see the fuel cars check out the oil filter they are running then go to the alky guys and take a look at what they are running for oil filters oh and if you cant afford the ticket then consumer reports has some info for you on fram filters happy reading boys no big red now all the experts have weighed in. oh by the way great advise big red. yes sir the drag races and consumer reports. man you are one dialed in son of a bitch. those are certainly excellent choices to determine the worthiness of an oil filter for an every day driving car. now why does it not surprise me that you are a consumer report guy you probably subscribe dont you politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : steve barker

this means nothing. they use what ever is given to them for nothing. they run them a quarter mile for gods sake! then throw them away. they dont even really need a filter. -- steve barker ========= guess all the experts have weighed in next time youre at the drag races and see the fuel cars check out the oil filter they are running then go to the alky guys and take a look at what they are running for oil filters oh and if you cant afford the ticket then consumer reports has some info for you on fram filters happy reading boys .

From : rick blaine

well i was just being a sarcastic smartass but i am sure i can find some info that is a little more accurate then just saying its a big margin. i am not and was not arguing in favor of ether side i really dont care. i have yet to pay $10 to fill the tank on my bike. and that would give me about 200 miles. i am also not afraid of breaking out the old bicycle and peddeling to work. we have showers there! i would not be the only one ether. a little old but still accurate i believe http//money.howstuffworks.com/gas-price2.htm http//www.latinobeat.net/html4/051504dc.htm http//slate.msn.com/id/2100546/ this one i found the most interesting http//moneycentral.msn.com/content/invest/extra/p82771.asp some info on the chain letters going around http//breakthechain.org/exclusives/gasout.html just do a google search for gas profit margin and you will get pages of sites with info .

From : yonzie

theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 22 may 2004 063715 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whered you crawl out from pussy boner kick you out probably went to ma to get married to your right hand aka mary palm and her five sisters ah yes. it is good to know some things never change red. you are one of the constants in this world. lol. missed you too man. and pussy youre just a constant pain in the ass .

From : theguy

on mon 24 may 2004 011113 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 22 may 2004 063715 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whered you crawl out from pussy boner kick you out probably went to ma to get married to your right hand aka mary palm and her five sisters ah yes. it is good to know some things never change red. you are one of the constants in this world. lol. missed you too man. and pussy youre just a constant pain in the ass why thank you yonzie. i try my best and your support helps make it all worth while. .

From : redneck tookover hell

this means nothing. they run them a quarter mile for gods sake! then throw them away. they dont even really need a filter. i think it is interesting that k$n sponsors a fuel funny car which doesnt use any kind of air filter. on the oil filter side next time you are at the drag races check to see what brand of oil filter is on all the high dollar aluminum hemis in alcohol and fuel. you have any idea of how much oil is pumped through one of those engines on their quarter mile pass and while you are at the races hang around the alky pits and see if that oil filter gets changed every pass. then ask them what weight oil they are using and what the oil pressure is during a pass you think the guys that are sponsored by skoal castrol miller beer csk or budweiser etc are going to be using a part that is defective with the amount of money being spent your reality needs to be realigned with reality politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : theguy

on 25 may 2004 160110 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote this means nothing. they run them a quarter mile for gods sake! then throw them away. they dont even really need a filter. i think it is interesting that k$n sponsors a fuel funny car which doesnt use any kind of air filter. yeah you could even say it is more than interesting you could say it is just fascinating. i couldnt but you apparently could. on the oil filter side next time you are at the drag races check to see what brand of oil filter is on all the high dollar aluminum hemis in alcohol and fuel. next time i go to the drag races i will check that out red. that will probably be the day after i go bowling. but stand by it could happen i suppose. at least in the context that anything is possible. you have any idea of how much oil is pumped through one of those engines on their quarter mile pass not even a clue red. not even a clue. that is just one of those really important facts that i have managed to live this long without. and while you are at the races hang around the alky pits and see if that oil filter gets changed every pass. then ask them what weight oil they are using and what the oil pressure is during a pass again i will jump right on this red. i sure will. i will probably hang out at the alky pits about as long as i can. i may even take my new digital camera so that i can record the event. then after i have watched for a sufficient period of time i will call out sir sir can you please tell me what weight oil you are using in your drag car. you think the guys that are sponsored by skoal castrol miller beer csk or budweiser etc are going to be using a part that is defective with the amount of money being spent i dont know red. i have idea what the guys that are being sponsored by cigarettes or beer are thinking. very intuitive post red. your reality needs to be realigned with reality and you red you need to go back to your ping thread and stay with your friends. they seem to be more liberal. they dont seem to be bothered by the fact that you are a moron. politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : rick blaine

next time i go to the drag races i will check that out red. that will probably be the day after i go bowling. but stand by it could happen i suppose. at least in the context that anything is possible. you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! .

From : theguy

on wed 26 may 2004 042004 gmt rick blaine fernjames-nospam@shaw.ca wrote next time i go to the drag races i will check that out red. that will probably be the day after i go bowling. but stand by it could happen i suppose. at least in the context that anything is possible. you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! dont like drag racing i think that may be a tad bit of an understatement but the message is correct. .

From : theguy

on 27 may 2004 230125 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote yeah you could even say it is more than interesting you could say it is just fascinating. i couldnt but you apparently could. i can say you are a fucking idiot and i will very good red. i am so glad for you. you are progressing so well. why you even spelled it correctly. politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

yeah you could even say it is more than interesting you could say it is just fascinating. i couldnt but you apparently could. i can say you are a fucking idiot and i will politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : theguy

on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : travis

there was one dude that did some studies on oil filters. check this site out http//minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html peace out. travis 77 dodge powerwagon 440 4x4 .

From : yonzie

theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends .

From : daniel j stern

on fri 28 may 2004 travis wrote there was one dude that did some studies on oil filters. check this site out http//minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html and therere a lot more oil filter studies at www.bobistheoilguy.com . perhaps most relevant!! to this thread is the k&n-versus-others air filter test. the results are a *real* shocker k&n air filters dont have the magical electrostatic super intergalactic double secret filtration effect their maker claims they do. they let more crap through. they dont flow significantly better than paper filters http//www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm ds sitting back and waiting for the shitstorm to begin... .

From : tbone

sure he does -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends .

From : theguy

on sun 30 may 2004 235408 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 133204 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 101749 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote mu9db093240d2o3hokv04mu0rc2nm4812j@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... your couple of friends are your left and right hand dale hahaha. that was supposed to be funny wasnt it i think it was ya. that was my point yonzie. sad man. very sad. not as sad as your sorry little ass there you go again. talkin about other guys asses. cant you just keep your private life private .

From : yonzie

theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 235408 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 133204 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 101749 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote 30ohb0ha5ucpr4c9bh2l7iu6ln95pfapkl@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote mu9db093240d2o3hokv04mu0rc2nm4812j@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... your couple of friends are your left and right hand dale hahaha. that was supposed to be funny wasnt it i think it was ya. that was my point yonzie. sad man. very sad. not as sad as your sorry little ass there you go again. talkin about other guys asses. cant you just keep your private life private not talking about other guys asses just your sorry little ass .

From : theguy

on mon 31 may 2004 230022 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 235408 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 133204 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 101749 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote 30ohb0ha5ucpr4c9bh2l7iu6ln95pfapkl@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote mu9db093240d2o3hokv04mu0rc2nm4812j@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... your couple of friends are your left and right hand dale hahaha. that was supposed to be funny wasnt it i think it was ya. that was my point yonzie. sad man. very sad. not as sad as your sorry little ass there you go again. talkin about other guys asses. cant you just keep your private life private not talking about other guys asses just your sorry little ass sure yonzie. anyway sorry my ass doesnt measure up to other guys asses in your guy watching ass fetish. or maybe im not. pretty much your problem. just saying. .

From : theguy

on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... .

From : nosey

ds sitting back and waiting for the shitstorm to begin... waiting for it to begin its been raining shit in here for years! ;^ .

From : theguy

on sat 29 may 2004 190316 -0400 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote ds sitting back and waiting for the shitstorm to begin... waiting for it to begin its been raining shit in here for years! ;^ really ya think .

From : redneck tookover hell

you got no friends that should bring both fuckups out of the woodwork t for twiddle dee and twiddle dum politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : theguy

on 30 may 2004 031613 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you got no friends that should bring both fuckups out of the woodwork t for twiddle dee and twiddle dum well it certainly brought red the moron out of the woodwork. it couldnt hardly bring me out of the woodwork red since it was my post that he was answering. you see red that is how it works. if im already involved in the conversation it cant bring me out of the woodwork red. that phrase would be more directed at someone who is not around red......but is drawn in by whatever was said. see red that is how it works. maybe not in peeuuuuwhallop but at least in the real world red. just helping you out red. you know im just here for you man. politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : dale yonz

yes i have another chipped key on my key chain for gm envoy. plus keys for unlocking sheds mailboxkey housekey jd tractor key toolshop key locks for fueltank key ok red got no turkey thought i say that before you do nltplk also mentioned try using just the ignition key for driving could be weight of my keychain im going to just use my dodge key in the ignition have it separate from the rest. plus all that weight is hard on the key tumbler. mike what is a speedpass thankyou for the helpful info dale simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote yonzie do you have another chipped key adjacent to the ram key on your keyring how bout a speedpass both of those will cause the problem you are experiencing. mike thurs morning tried starting 03 diesel would turn over but not start tried again she started but ran for 1 second and shutoff. the security light by the temp guage is just a flashing. tried a few times again finally she started. drove the truck out of the shop was seeding that day and had bags of canola to be unloaded. shut the truck off and she would not start. either she turns over or runs for 1 sec and shuts off. had it towed in to dealership next day they phoned and said truck always started for them. yesterday morning was able to catch a ride to town to get the truck. pick it up and then i drive to an implement dealer to get some parts. get back to the truck and same damn thing wouldnt start. phoned dodge service said wait for 10 minutes and try again. they thought my command start whatever was giving trouble. luck out the truck started drove it to the guy who installed the ultrastart. truck was acting up there but yet using the remote start she started. he said something has to be wrong with the ignition keys i had both of them with me. go back to dodge they cut me two new keys the service rep hooks up the computer to enter the codes or whatever. so far truck has been starting any ideas why the chip in the keys woulld cause this problem next time if she acts up will disconnect the ultrastart. dale .

From : dale yonz

jeffmayner@yahoo.com wrote wife was waiting to turn right at a light probably the 5th or 6th car in line. she had just pulled past an exit to a shopping center and had to stop leaving plenty of room behind her for folks exiting the shopping center parking lot. a lady in a mid-90s nissan wasnt paying attention and pulled out of the exit and whacked into the dodge hitting the hitch area with her right front. she was probably going about 5 mph or so maybe a little more. damage to dodge scratched bumper. small rip in plastic bumper cover top. scratched hitch receiver. total cost to ladys ins. co. $700.00 damage to nissan totaled. watching pieces fall off the nissan inside and out the heater core ended up on the floor of the passenger footwell and the airbag let go. priceless. ;- too bad didnt take pictures then send them off to consumer reports magazine. they always place the jap cars high on their lists dale .

From : theguy

yes i have another chipped key on my key chain for gm envoy. plus keys for unlocking sheds mailboxkey housekey jd tractor key toolshop key locks for fueltank key ok red got no turkey thought i say that before you do nltplk also mentioned try using just the ignition key for driving could be weight of my keychain im going to just use my dodge key in the ignition have it separate from the rest. plus all that weight is hard on the key tumbler. mike what is a speedpass its a little black plastic gizmo that goes on your keyring. it has a chip in it that ids you and has your credit card info in it. it is honored here in the us by exxon and mobil gas stations. when you pull up to the pump you wave it at a sensor in the pump and a lite on the pump lites up indicating its ok to fill your vehicle and voila a month later you get the bill. i think the esso stations in canada have em too. they are pretty slick. the gm chip key could be causing the interference. you can keep em on the same keyring just make sure they arent adjacent to each other. i keep my ram key and mommas jeep key on opposite sides of the key ring and when i start one or the other i make sure that i have the unused chip key shielded in my hand. the very same no start thing happened to me too until i realized what was causing it. the skim sentry key immobilizer module system has been very reliable in spite of what another poster alluded to. at least on chryo vehicles the nissans will mysteriously lose their memory from time to time and have to be towed in..... makes for a verrry happy customer ;^ mike thankyou for the helpful info dale simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote yonzie do you have another chipped key adjacent to the ram key on your keyring how bout a speedpass both of those will cause the problem you are experiencing. mike thurs morning tried starting 03 diesel would turn over but not start tried again she started but ran for 1 second and shutoff. the security light by the temp guage is just a flashing. tried a few times again finally she started. drove the truck out of the shop was seeding that day and had bags of canola to be unloaded. shut the truck off and she would not start. either she turns over or runs for 1 sec and shuts off. had it towed in to dealership next day they phoned and said truck always started for them. yesterday morning was able to catch a ride to town to get the truck. pick it up and then i drive to an implement dealer to get some parts. get back to the truck and same damn thing wouldnt start. phoned dodge service said wait for 10 minutes and try again. they thought my command start whatever was giving trouble. luck out the truck started drove it to the guy who installed the ultrastart. truck was acting up there but yet using the remote start she started. he said something has to be wrong with the ignition keys i had both of them with me. go back to dodge they cut me two new keys the service rep hooks up the computer to enter the codes or whatever. so far truck has been starting any ideas why the chip in the keys woulld cause this problem next time if she acts up will disconnect the ultrastart. dale .

From : theguy

on sun 30 may 2004 101749 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... your couple of friends are your left and right hand dale hahaha. that was supposed to be funny wasnt it .

From : dale yonz

you guys have helped me before thank you now maybe someone can help me again. my trouble is it idles just fine. when i give it gas it revs to a point and will continue at that speed. when i give it more gas it cuts out and runs like crap. i replaced the fuel pump last year when it brought the wife home and wouldnt start the next day. that worked. i guess my question is.... can the pump get to where it doesnt pump enough to operate the engine at a faster revolution because it seems like im just getting a trickle out of it now. seems to me that with the input tube disconected it should shoot fuel across the backyard. it doesnt. am i looking at swapping the fuel pump again thanks for any replys. dave when was the last time you put a filter on it .

From : theguy

cbhvac sales@screweduponpurpose@caroliabreeehvac.com wrote in message you guys have helped me before thank you now maybe someone can help me again. my trouble is it idles just fine. when i give it gas it revs to a point and will continue at that speed. when i give it more gas it cuts out and runs like crap. i replaced the fuel pump last year when it brought the wife home and wouldnt start the next day. that worked. i guess my question is.... can the pump get to where it doesnt pump enough to operate the engine at a faster revolution because it seems like im just getting a trickle out of it now. seems to me that with the input tube disconected it should shoot fuel across the backyard. it doesnt. am i looking at swapping the fuel pump again thanks for any replys. dave when was the last time you put a filter on it i put a filter on the other day. you know thinking it may be clogged. when i pulled the hose off eng

From : denny

i just bought a 3.7 liter durango - 2wd with the 3.7 v6. is this a good motor i had good experiences with the 3.3 in my caravan and the 3.9 in my older dakota but not so good with the 3.0 in the previous caravan. this is my first new vehicle. i was wondering are any of the enhancements out on the market worth it and have any of you all used them things like -performance chips - oil and other additives - high performance airfilters anything to help increase the horsepower a bit that is actually worth the bucks also this low end model durango has the options i wanted except it did not have the molding on the doors to protect them. i could not find aftermarket parts where woudl you all go - back to dodge and order the molding from them thanks. .

From : theguy

on sun 30 may 2004 224403 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 133204 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote gg7kb0l3g07ljon24svstqs9ge89s8f1ip@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 101749 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote 30ohb0ha5ucpr4c9bh2l7iu6ln95pfapkl@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote mu9db093240d2o3hokv04mu0rc2nm4812j@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... your couple of friends are your left and right hand dale hahaha. that was supposed to be funny wasnt it i think it was ya. that was my point yonzie. sad man. very sad. just a thought...... maybe you two could go down and hook up with red and mac. the machine has room for four so ive been told. you all could bond....... vbg denny now you gotta understand i dont understand the machine totally. but from what i have read im just thinking that it is more for yonzie and red. you know they may be much more into that type of male bonding than i am. maybe not i dont know them all that well but just reading about the machine and their appreciation of it it seems that it might be that way. im just saying.........thats all. not casting any aspersions. just saying the obvious........thats all. .

From : yonzie

theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 133204 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 101749 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote mu9db093240d2o3hokv04mu0rc2nm4812j@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... your couple of friends are your left and right hand dale hahaha. that was supposed to be funny wasnt it i think it was ya. that was my point yonzie. sad man. very sad. not as sad as your sorry little ass .

From : mgg

uh oh..... does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. .

From : badasshemi

well i have to say thanks for all the input. i have not heard of the problems with the k&n before. i was looking to boost the power as much as increasing the airflow will allow. since you all know more than i any suggestions on what may help the intake system how about exhaust thanks .

From : steve barker

exactly. what you said. -- steve ========= because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! so has k&n as well as voiding warranties. there you have it just the facts. .

From : big al

does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. oh boy... here we go again! well its your money you can buy what ever you want. now fram has joined the instant horsepower club too. al .

From : miles

mgg wrote uh oh..... does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. lol!! actually a cold air intake isnt a bad idea. just use a decent filter with it. .

From : trey

does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. oh boy... here we go again! well its your money you can buy what ever you want. .

From : miles

badasshemi wrote does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. they do already. but you might try http//www.airaid.com/ instead. .

From : bill hall

uh oh is right! we all know that the k&n will make the truck faster and more powerful right or does it make your engine wear out more quickly or does it do nothing at all but is merely a filtering choice with dubious bragging rights which one is it any help t-bone red tom anyone.... gbfg!!!!! sorry just had to do it! uh oh..... does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. .

From : trey

thats right! the k&n instantly doubles your hp and triples your gas mileage while it cleans your vales and purifies your oil! k&n never posts dino charts or oil analysis charts because everyone knows just how great of a product they are and just know how much they improve power and longevity so they really dont need to. dont forget as long as its pulling air from under the hood its not a cold air intake a drop in replacement in the air box does not open up the air path to make enough of a difference. so tell me why do you want a k&n in your truck what are you looking for by getting one uh oh is right! we all know that the k&n will make the truck faster and more powerful right or does it make your engine wear out more quickly or does it do nothing at all but is merely a filtering choice with dubious bragging rights which one is it any help t-bone red tom anyone.... gbfg!!!!! sorry just had to do it! uh oh..... does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. .

From : steve barker

cheese and rice!! i wouldnt throw a fram on the ground much less put it in my vehicle. -- steve ========= does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. oh boy... here we go again! well its your money you can buy what ever you want. now fram has joined the instant horsepower club too. al .

From : milesh

trey wrote dont forget as long as its pulling air from under the hood its not a cold air intake a drop in replacement in the air box does not open up the air path to make enough of a difference. so tell me why do you want a k&n in your truck what are you looking for by getting one he mentioned the fipk which is their cold air intake i believe and not just a drop in filter. .

From : rick blaine

because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! so has k&n as well as voiding warranties. there you have it just the facts. cheese and rice!! i wouldnt throw a fram on the ground much less put it in my vehicle. -- steve ========= does anyone know when k&n is coming out with a fipk for the 2004 year. i hear is it not the same as the 2003. is that even true how much could have changed with the induction system. oh boy... here we go again! well its your money you can buy what ever you want. now fram has joined the instant horsepower club too. al .

From : trey

if you want maximum air flow get a super charger. that will help push the air along ;- i do not remember if it was the hemi or the 4.7 that actually ran better with the back pressure from the oem exhaust opposed to a cat back or headers can anyone confirm this well i have to say thanks for all the input. i have not heard of the problems with the k&n before. i was looking to boost the power as much as increasing the airflow will allow. since you all know more than i any suggestions on what may help the intake system how about exhaust thanks .

From : steve barker

how bout just drive it as is and leave well enough alone. a lot more serious problems in the world to worry about than power and gas mileage. -- steve ========= well i have to say thanks for all the input. i have not heard of the problems with the k&n before. i was looking to boost the power as much as increasing the airflow will allow. since you all know more than i any suggestions on what may help the intake system how about exhaust thanks .

From : steve w

do not use a k&n ford and gm are voiding warranties on vehicles that are using them. both have issued notices about them. also a few studies have shown that the k&n let much more dirt and dust through than any paper element. info - automatic transmission shift engine driveability concerns or service engine soon ses light on as a result of the installation of an aftermarket reusable excessively oiled air filter #04-07-30-013 - 03/05/2004 automatic transmission shift engine driveability concerns or service engine soon ses light on as a result of the installation of an aftermarket reusable excessively oiled air filter 2004 and prior cars and light duty trucks 2003-2004 hummer h2 first inspect the vehicle for a reusable aftermarket oiled air filter do not repair under warranty if concerns result from the use of a reusable aftermarket oiled air filter. the installation of an aftermarket reusable oiled air filter may result in a.. service engine soon ses light on b.. transmission shift concerns slipping and damaged clutches or bands c.. engine driveability concerns poor acceleration from a stop limited engine rpm range the oil that is used on these air filter elements may be transferred onto the mass air flow maf sensor causing contamination of the sensor. as a result the grams per second gps signal from the maf may be low and any or all of the concerns listed above may occur. when servicing a vehicle with any of these concerns be sure to check for the presence of an aftermarket reusable excessively oiled air filter. the maf gps reading should be compared to a like vehicle with a oem air box and filter under the same driving conditions to verify the concern. transmission or engine driveability concerns that are the result of the installation of an aftermarket reusable excessively oiled air filter are not considered to be warrantable repair items. subj k & n filters john if i wrote subjective i meant objective.. i was responsible for evaluating re-usable air filters for a major construction/mining company that had hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers to pick-up trucks and salesmens cars. this study was embarked upon due to the fact that we were spending upwards of $30000 a month on paper air filters. using them one time then throwing them away.. i inititated the study in that i was convinced that a k&n type filter or oiled foam would save us many dollars per year in filter savings man hour savings and of course engines as these would filter dirt better than paper. yes i had read the k&n ads and was a believer representative test units were chosen to give us a broad spectrum from cars right through large front end loaders. with each unit we had a long history of oil analysis records so that changes would be trackable. unfortunately for me every single unit having alternative re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate large jump in silicon dirt levels with corresponding major increases in wear metals. in one extreme case a unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner the secondary small paper element clogged before even one days test run could be completed. this particular unit had a cummins v-12 engine that had paper/paper one one bank and k&n/paper on the other bank; two completely independent induction systems. the conditions were exactly duplicated for each bank yet the k&n allowed so much dirt to pass through that the small filter became clogged before lunch. the same outcome occured with oiled foams on this unit. we discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost immediately but continued with service trucks formens vehicles and my own company car. analysis results continued showing markedly increased wear rates for all the vehicles mine included. test concluded switched back to paper/glass and all vehicles showed reduction back to near original levels of both wear metals and dirt. i continued with the k&n on my company car out of stubborness and at 85000 miles the chevy 305 v-8 wheezed its last breath. the top end was sanded badly; bottom end was just fine. end of test. i must stress that everyone involved in this test was hoping that alternative filters would work as everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good $85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away each week per machine... so i strongly suggest that depending upon an individuals long term plan for their vehicles they simply run an oil analysis at least once to see that the k&n or whatever alternative air filter is indeed working in that application... it depends on a persons priorities. if you want performance then indeed the k&n is the way to go but at what cost and no i do not work for a paper or glass air filter manufacturing company nor do i have any affiliation with anything directly or indirectly that could benefit george morrison as a result.. http//www.f150online.com/forums/archive/top

From : trey

trey wrote dont forget as long as its pulling air from under the hood its not a cold air intake a drop in replacement in the air box does not open up the air path to make enough of a difference. so tell me why do you want a k&n in your truck what are you looking for by getting one he mentioned the fipk which is their cold air intake i believe and not just a drop in filter. if its anything like the fipk i have on my 99 dak it is not a cold air intake. it simply gets rid of the air labyrinth and take air from the hot engine compartment. accomplishing nothing but making noise and thinning my wallet. zero performance boost. just sounds better at wot. .

From : badasshemi

yeah there may be more serious problems than power... but what the hell is a bad ass truck worth without all the power it is capable of .

From : badasshemi

i would prefer a blower over a super charger .

From : trey

i would prefer a blower over a super charger ok a typo. but honestly i would prefer a twin turbo over a blower. .

From : trey

yeah there may be more serious problems than power... but what the hell is a bad ass truck worth without all the power it is capable of um.... $1000 under sticker .

From : cbhvac stephen

yeah there may be more serious problems than power... but what the hell is a bad ass truck worth without all the power it is capable of then why did you buy a wannabe hot rod .

From : rick blaine

that was sarcasm sweetie. exactly. what you said. -- steve ========= because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! so has k&n as well as voiding warranties. there you have it just the facts. .

From : theguy

on fri 07 may 2004 164805 gmt rick blaine fernjames-nospam@shaw.ca wrote that was sarcasm sweetie. gee thanks for filling us in rick. exactly. what you said. -- steve ========= because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! so has k&n as well as voiding warranties. there you have it just the facts. .

From : theguy

on fri 07 may 2004 171749 gmt theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on fri 07 may 2004 164805 gmt rick blaine fernjames-nospam@shaw.ca wrote that was sarcasm sweetie. gee thanks for filling us in rick. oh by the way rick that was sarcasm. exactly. what you said. -- steve ========= because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! so has k&n as well as voiding warranties. there you have it just the facts. .

From : steve w

one that isnt broke.... -- steve williams yeah there may be more serious problems than power... but what the hell is a bad ass truck worth without all the power it is capable of -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

From : yonzie

denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 133204 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote gg7kb0l3g07ljon24svstqs9ge89s8f1ip@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sun 30 may 2004 101749 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@direcway.com wrote 30ohb0ha5ucpr4c9bh2l7iu6ln95pfapkl@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on sat 29 may 2004 083653 -0600 yonzie yonzie@mac.com wrote mu9db093240d2o3hokv04mu0rc2nm4812j@4ax.com theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on 27 may 2004 230245 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote you dont like drag racing better check your pulse! theguy is just another fucking idiot like his other troll buddy oh man. and i thought we were friends. you got no friends you would be surprised yonzie. very surprised. but then in a place like this i do only have a couple of friends if that is what you meant you were only a little mistaken. that is not a bad thing though yonzie. it is also not an unintended thing yonzie. but never the less............... your couple of friends are your left and right hand dale hahaha. that was supposed to be funny wasnt it i think it was ya. that was my point yonzie. sad man. very sad. just a thought...... maybe you two could go down and hook up with red and mac. the machine has room for four so ive been told. you all could bond....... vbg denny red would definitely hook the guy up to 220 .

From : cbhvac sales

on fri 28 may 2004 travis wrote there was one dude that did some studies on oil filters. check this site out http//minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html and therere a lot more oil filter studies at www.bobistheoilguy.com . perhaps most relevant!! to this thread is the k&n-versus-others air filter test. the results are a *real* shocker k&n air filters dont have the magical electrostatic super intergalactic double secret filtration effect their maker claims they do. they let more crap through. they dont flow significantly better than paper filters http//www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm ds sitting back and waiting for the shitstorm to begin... i think i have a way to deterimine in a very unscientific way using k+ns own unit.... ever see the clear lexan box with the ping pong ball and two axial fans in the case you put the k+n filter in and you watch the ball sail to the top of the tube and then you put what clearly looks to be a fram filter in and the ball bounces around the bottom of the tube easy enough..you just load the air around the box with someting like talcum and filter it through the k+n and thencheck the inside of the tube for powder.. .

From : cbhvac stephen

jelious you cant afford one it is jealous and no...lets see...the durango has one...if you want to call it that...a hemi that is... hondas have hemis if you want to get techy.... also...todays hemi is no elephant and you might be surprised to find out i own a couple of the real deals...not this wannabe hemi. i can afford what i want...right now i am looking for a superbird with a hemi...so far the best deal i have found and am taking serious is a bird up in maryland tor red with 60000 documented miles on it...his price is in the low 6 figures....probably more than your home is worth.....already been offered close to that for the cuda that has a 426 in it and the anglia...isnt for sale...and if it ever goes the kb426 comes out of it...along with all the se fi stuff.. now...pissed that a set of valve covers costs more than your truck payment must be hell to know that some of us have induction systems that cost more than your entire damn truck. .

From : cbhvac stephen

jelious you cant afford one i think you will find that cbhvac has a real hemi not the knock off that dc is pushing now. roy i doubt he can understand that...hes got a hard time with simple things man.....like using msns built in spell checker. hows the vette thinking about a 05...at a dealers meeting last week one of the other owners came up with an 04...in champane..very nice.... cant tell if i want to go that route or a gto or perhaps just maybe another 525...i wanted a 740 but i could not see spending that much on a german chevy... damn shame they killed the f-body line...now...if they bring back the fb with a retro look like a 400...efg.... .

From : steve w

johnnyd wrote if the liberal treehuggers would have allowed the usa to tap our oil resources in alaska we would be paying a whole lot less and not depending on the towel heads. its not just alaska. its nationwide and offshore as well. almost impossible to even do exploratory drilling for the future. .

From : tbone

my 2000 dodge 4x4 dash cracked this spring and so did my buddies same truck we live in south florida and never gets too cold and neither go in rough terrain any body else have this problem and where did you go to get a new one thanks dashes usually crack because of the sun and heat not cold. no the cold will do it as well i ve awoke a few mornings in my life to below zero temps to find my dash split from windshield to ashtray thems was the days of playing hockey at the local outside ice rink! every 20 minutes of play the goalies would do a few laps to keep from freezing! shepherds we shall be for thee my lord for thee power hath decended forth from thy hand so our feet may swiftly carry out thy command we shall flow a river forth to thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti .

From : roy

*cbhvac* stephen@screweduponpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in jelious you cant afford one i think you will find that cbhvac has a real hemi not the knock off that dc is pushing now. roy i doubt he can understand that...hes got a hard time with simple things man.....like using msns built in spell checker. hows the vette thinking about a 05...at a dealers meeting last week one of the other owners came up with an 04...in champane..very nice.... cant tell if i want to go that route or a gto or perhaps just maybe another 525...i wanted a 740 but i could not see spending that much on a german chevy... damn shame they killed the f-body line...now...if they bring back the fb with a retro look like a 400...efg.... i sold the z06 and just picked up a 04 lightning. nice to here the blower whinebfg anyway havent decided on what to do to it first. the thing moves pretty well as it is now so i might let it be for a month of two until it shakes out. if your thinking about a vette you might want to hold off until the 06s come out. there has been a lot of talk about a 500+hp engine being put in the z06 when it comes back from its year of none produced. roy .

From : tbone

*cbhvac* stephen@screweduponpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in jelious you cant afford one i think you will find that cbhvac has a real hemi not the knock off that dc is pushing now. roy i doubt he can understand that...hes got a hard time with simple things man.....like using msns built in spell checker. hows the vette thinking about a 05...at a dealers meeting last week one of the other owners came up with an 04...in champane..very nice.... cant tell if i want to go that route or a gto or perhaps just maybe another 525...i wanted a 740 but i could not see spending that much on a german chevy... damn shame they killed the f-body line...now...if they bring back the fb with a retro look like a 400...efg.... i sold the z06 and just picked up a 04 lightning. nice to here the blower whinebfg anyway havent decided on what to do to it first. the thing moves pretty well as it is now so i might let it be for a month of two until it shakes out. if your thinking about a vette you might want to hold off until the 06s come out. there has been a lot of talk about a 500+hp engine being put in the z06 when it comes back from its year of none produced. roy how much do they sell for -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : cbhvac stephen

*cbhvac* stephen@screweduponpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote in jelious you cant afford one it is jealous and no...lets see...the durango has one...if you want to call it that...a hemi that is... hondas have hemis if you want to get techy.... also...todays hemi is no elephant and you might be surprised to find out i own a couple of the real deals...not this wannabe hemi. i can afford what i want...right now i am looking for a superbird with a hemi...so far the best deal i have found and am taking serious is a bird up in maryland tor red with 60000 documented miles on it...his price is in the low 6 figures....probably more than your home is worth.....already been offered close to that for the cuda that has a 426 in it and the anglia...isnt for sale...and if it ever goes the kb426 comes out of it...along with all the se fi stuff.. now...pissed that a set of valve covers costs more than your truck payment must be hell to know that some of us have induction systems that cost more than your entire damn truck. had a nice superbird near me that went up for sale. it had that ugly orange on it though ! anyway i decided i should go look since a buddy thought he might want it. i get there and start to look it over all looked good on the outside correct wing and bracingcorrect nose interior was in good shape. then i opened the hood... what the hell is a 318 doing in there!!!!!! turns out the original engine was blown and too expensive to repair so this dope traded it for the 318 and made it fit. i just about puked on him. i made him an offer and told him straight up that if the original engine was still in it or at least still available i would have offered a lot more. dont you hate it when you think you have found the ride open the hood and find a bastardized pos happens all the time and i cant imagine the guy that fucked over your guy with the 318..lol...actually hes prob out laughing his ass off every time he fires his phant up.... s -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .

From : yonzie

*cbhvac* stephen@screweduponpurpose@carolinabreezehvac.com wrote jelious you cant afford one it is jealous and no...lets see...the durango has one...if you want to call it that...a hemi that is... hondas have hemis if you want to get techy.... also...todays hemi is no elephant and you might be surprised to find out i own a couple of the real deals...not this wannabe hemi. i can afford what i want...right now i am looking for a superbird with a hemi...so far the best deal i have found and am taking serious is a bird up in maryland tor red with 60000 documented miles on it...his price is in the low 6 figures....probably more than your home is worth.....already been offered close to that for the cuda that has a 426 in it and the anglia...isnt for sale...and if it ever goes the kb426 comes out of it...along with all the se fi stuff.. i got a anglia perfect sitting in my shop taking up room. dale .

From : milesh

clyde wrote would you torque that k&n with a needle type or a clicker type torque wrench with a k&n filter you can hear the inrush of the increased airflow. you torque the air intake cover nut to maximize this inrush sound. you have to use the needle type torque wrench because the inrush is so loud you wont be able to hear the clicker type. .

From : kens nospam 4me

thanks for letting me know ;- ken on fri 07 may 2004 171749 gmt theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on fri 07 may 2004 164805 gmt rick blaine fernjames-nospam@shaw.ca wrote that was sarcasm sweetie. gee thanks for filling us in rick. oh by the way rick that was sarcasm. exactly. what you said. -- steve ========= because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! so has k&n as well as voiding warranties. there you have it just the facts. .

From : theguy

on fri 7 may 2004 181140 -0400 kens nospam@4me wrote thanks for letting me know ;- no problem. thats what im here for you know. ken on fri 07 may 2004 171749 gmt theguy theguy@myplace.com wrote on fri 07 may 2004 164805 gmt rick blaine fernjames-nospam@shaw.ca wrote that was sarcasm sweetie. gee thanks for filling us in rick. oh by the way rick that was sarcasm. exactly. what you said. -- steve ========= because all good usenet experts know fram has ruined many good engines! so has k&n as well as voiding warranties. there you have it just the facts. .

From : steve barker

perhaps but true. darling... -- steve ========= that was sarcasm sweetie. .

From : paul jensen

lol!! actually a cold air intake isnt a bad idea. just use a decent filter with it. what would be a good filter with a cold air intake .

From : rick blaine

on fri 7 may 2004 181140 -0400 kens nospam@4me wrote thanks for letting me know ;- no problem. thats what im here for you know. hey is this a whole new thread its looking better than the time honored k&n debate! .

From : badasshemi

jelious you cant afford one .

From : roy

jelious you cant afford one i think you will find that cbhvac has a real hemi not the knock off that dc is pushing now. roy .