Is English becoming a second language in America?

From : steve b

Q: i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve .

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From : mike simmons

i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve steve your thoughts parallel mine i have many times wondered the same thing. often someone will come here seeking help and cant even describe their problems cogently enough for someone to decipher what they want. it is more than merely chatroomese however it is simply extremely poor speaking/writing skills. their english prowess speaks volumes about the quality or lack of of our education system also as i presume that most are at least high school grads. thanks for your observation and sharing your forthright thoughts with us though i fear some flames will be directed your way for this. mike .

From : stephen king

steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote in i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve this isnt english class. its usenet. lots of shorthand. people tend to type quickly and send prolly w/o reading what they wrote before hand. .

From : steve b

ed h. wrote because were all so interested in nitpicking... just pointing out to a metericious snob complaining about improper grammer metericious that said snobs grammer was incorrect. grammar with two as well ed .

From : steve b

stephen king sking@scary905.com wrote this isnt english class. its usenet. lots of shorthand. people tend to type quickly and send prolly w/o reading what they wrote before hand. i fully agree. it is only a snob and a net nanny who insists on proper english at all times. in conversation we use all sorts of shortcuts vernacular colloquialisms and know whut uh mean vern a good conversationalist can adapt their own speech to match that of their audience. it is only when someone is on an entirely different level that difficulties arise. its no fun talking to a snob and its no fun talking to an idiot. at time in all conversations we have said or someone else has said something totally silly ass backwards or switched around and everyone knew exactly what they were talking about. i am just talking about atrocious posts that leave one scratching ones head and wondering what the person is talking about. many people here cant write that well yet convey their message or question very well. but for the younger ones who have had the benefit of a free public education theres no excuse. and theyre the ones who usually complain the loudest and who are the most racist because someone else has their job. if one cannot write a simple post how in the world are they going to write a jsa or ipe job safety analysis or in progress evaluation theyre not because laborers arent called to do those tasks. steve .

From : steve b

on fri 20 apr 2007 061220 -0400 roy@fhome.net wrote well well our troll is back. things must have become a little slow at the rest area. yeah we saw you already announced yourself in another off topic post to all your butt buddies. you seem to know alot about rest areas. .

From : steve b

theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve .

From : carolina watercraft works

here here or is it hear hear...lol i agree 100%. i encounter numerous individuals that you just described on a daily basis and its almost commonplace. i feel our education environment is severely lacking and needs tweaking. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve .

From : Annonymous

this is an interesting topic. to some degree i have to agree with you. english skills have definately declined. writing skills included. on the other hand i am not quite as anal about it as you are. in fact steve you seem to get pretty stressed about a lot of things. anyway there is a lot of reading that you can do on this very subject and the prevailing opinion seems to be that we are in a transition. writing skills simply will not be as valuable in the future. to some degree steve you are judging a new world with old world rules. technology may very well do your writing for you soon. it already can do quite a bit. for instance steve i could put this post through a software program that would add capitals correct my puncuation correct my spelling errors and make grammar changes. but then what for you would not understand what i wrote any better. it would just fit into your structured rules a little better and as a result your blood pressure would not have to rise as you read it. that however is really your problem. so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. if it wasnt grammar you would just find another source of irritation. you are just one of those stuffy people that ends up blowing an o-ring early in life because you dont have any idea about what is really important and what isnt. just saying steve. thedumbguy on fri 20 apr 2007 134742 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote here here or is it hear hear...lol i agree 100%. i encounter numerous individuals that you just described on a daily basis and its almost commonplace. i feel our education environment is severely lacking and needs tweaking. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve .

From : Annonymous

on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. .

From : steve b

on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. youre welcome. cant come up with a logical lucid counterpoint so you just grab at a racial slur. thoroughly expected and understood. you are so predictable its scary. simply stated those who choose to remain uneducated unmotivated and unimproved can best be described as inferior. it is basic human nature for one to want better for themselves and their families. each generation wants a better life for their progeny. each person wants something better. especially if they are cognizant enough of their own personal situation to realize that they are living a life of settling for less. most rich and successful people in history have not started off that way

From : Annonymous

on fri 20 apr 2007 155701 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. youre welcome. cant come up with the rest of the rant edited out as my service to my fellow man for today. dweeb steve......you are one huge moron. i bet you got picked on as a kid. that makes we wonder........with that many guns how long will it be before we read about you in the paper pretending to be an intellectual after you get out of jr. high school for the day by using your momys computer is going to get you into trouble little boy. .

From : geekboy

with all the millions illegal aliens and million of immigrants in addition to workers with visas the us government is allowing into the us from every single third world country each year yes. i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve .

From : steve b

because you are so interested in grammer i would like to point out that many people here cant write that well should read many people here cant write well sans that or many people here dont write well enough for me steve b.. oh god. nitpicking are we if you want to pick apart something a lot more undecipherable start with azidiots use of the english language. oh i forgot. you rump rangers stick together right steve .

From : azwiley1

because you are so interested in grammer i would like to point out that many people here cant write that well should read many people here cant write well sans that or many people here dont write well enough for me steve b.. oh god. nitpicking are we if you want to pick apart something a lot more undecipherable start with azidiots use of the english language. so it is ok for you to nitpick and blatantly attack me some one you do not know and have never conversed with over something as petty as lack of information in a reply in a thread that was not even directed to you. yet we are not allowed to do the same to you i just love your double standards. .

From : steve b

on fri 20 apr 2007 155701 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. youre welcome. cant come up with the rest of the rant edited out as my service to my fellow man for today. dweeb steve......you are one huge moron. i bet you got picked on as a kid. that makes we wonder........with that many guns how long will it be before we read about you in the paper pretending to be an intellectual after you get out of jr. high school for the day by using your momys computer is going to get you into trouble little boy. still cant discuss the issues and questions posed but have to resort to ad hominem attacks eh come back when you can logically debate the issues posed. and in the meantime work on that spelling and grammar and punctuation. you really suck at it. but hey its never too late to go back to school and graduate. even if it is a ges diploma. do something about your inferiority besides flagrantly demonstrate it. steve .

From : azwiley1

on fri 20 apr 2007 155701 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. youre welcome. cant come up with the rest of the rant edited out as my service to my fellow man for today. dweeb steve......you are one huge moron. i bet you got picked on as a kid. that makes we wonder........with that many guns how long will it be before we read about yo

From : steve b

this is not the eloquent reply i excepted from you professor steve. however im pleasantly surprised you didnt call me names that i wont allow in my house. i guess maybe you too can learn. that doesnt make sense. excepted as to foul language you have me confused with azwiley on that count. steve .

From : fm

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From : tim mcbride a k a numan

your thoughts parallel mine i have many times wondered the same thing. often someone will come here seeking help and cant even describe their problems cogently enough for someone to decipher what they want. it is more than merely chatroomese however it is simply extremely poor speaking/writing skills. their english prowess speaks volumes about the quality or lack of of our education system also as i presume that most are at least high school grads. mike the education system works in most areas. thing is it cant be blamed for lazy students with no drive to learn. cant open up their heads and pour it in. students are lazy these days because they know the government will take care of them because they are stupid. -- tim mcbride a.k.a. numan .

From : tim mcbride a k a numan

it is only a snob and a net nanny who insists on proper english at all times. in conversation we use all sorts of shortcuts vernacular colloquialisms and know whut uh mean vern a good conversationalist can adapt their own speech to match that of their audience. exactly! just like hillary. she has more accents than anyone ive ever seen in my life. -- tim mcbride a.k.a. numan .

From : mike simmons

your thoughts parallel mine i have many times wondered the same thing. often someone will come here seeking help and cant even describe their problems cogently enough for someone to decipher what they want. it is more than merely chatroomese however it is simply extremely poor speaking/writing skills. their english prowess speaks volumes about the quality or lack of of our education system also as i presume that most are at least high school grads. mike the education system works in most areas. thing is it cant be blamed for lazy students with no drive to learn. cant open up their heads and pour it in. students are lazy these days because they know the government will take care of them because they are stupid. -- tim mcbride a.k.a. numan tim you have a valid point! mike .

From : steve b

it is only a snob and a net nanny who insists on proper english at all times. in conversation we use all sorts of shortcuts vernacular colloquialisms and know whut uh mean vern a good conversationalist can adapt their own speech to match that of their audience. exactly! just like hillary. she has more accents than anyone ive ever seen in my life. -- tim mcbride a.k.a. numan hillary reminds me of woody allen in zelig. hes a chameleon who changes instantly to fit in with whatever situation he finds himself. and hillary does too. years ago pat paulson would run for president but only as a farce. in every town he was hosted at he would say something like you know this town is the most beautiful place in the united states somewhere id like to move to some day. or something close to that and he said that word for word in every town that would throw a party or parade for him. it was his swipe at politicians being chameleons. i would describe hillary as a chameleon but i like those little lizards more than to do that. besides chameleons dont have thighs that out of proportion. wow! steve .

From : steve b

this isnt english class. its usenet. lots of shorthand. people tend to type quickly and send prolly w/o reading what they wrote before hand. i fully agree. it is only a snob and a net nanny who insists on proper english at all times. in conversation we use all sorts of shortcuts vernacular colloquialisms and know whut uh mean vern a good conversationalist can adapt their own speech to match that of their audience. it is only when someone is on an entirely different level that difficulties arise. its no fun talking to a snob and its no fun talking to an idiot. at time in all conversations we have said or someone else has said something totally silly ass backwards or switched around and everyone knew exactly what they were talking about. but we are using a medium that doesnt allow for translation of dialect body language local colloquialisms etc. therefore your posts need to be checked for completeness and accuracy if you want your thoughts to be interpreted correctly. typos arent an issue but wrong use of words can completely change the context of a sentence. loose and lose are by far the biggest example i have ever seen of this and do change context when transposed. would you rather the enemy loose his missiles or lose his missiles totally true. my point is that the credibility of these twenty-something morons who dont have a clue that they are using lose/loose and others incorrectly is suspect. if they have such disregard for basic spelling they generally arent too specific about other things either. like facts. and then if that doesnt work they run their potty mouths and end every other word in tard whatever that means. steve .

From : rm v2 0

this isnt english class. its usenet. lots of shorthand. people tend to type quickly and send prolly w/o reading what they wrote before hand. i fully agree. it is only a snob and a net nanny who insists on proper english at all times. in conversation we use all sorts of shortcuts vernacular colloquialisms and know whut uh mean vern a good conversationalist can adapt their own speech to match that of their audience. it is only when someone is on an entirely different level that difficulties arise. its no fun talking to a snob and its no fun talking to an idiot. at time in all conversations we have said or someone else has said something totally silly ass backwards or switched around and everyone knew exactly what they were talking about. but we are using a medium that doesnt allow for translation of dialect body language local colloquialisms etc. therefore your posts need to be checked for completeness and accuracy if you want your thoughts to be interpreted correctly. typos arent an issue but wrong use of words can completely change the context of a sentence. loose and lose are by far the biggest example i have ever seen of this and do change context when transposed. would you rather the enemy loose his missiles or lose his missiles .

From : mike simmons

this isnt english class. its usenet. lots of shorthand. people tend to type quickly and send prolly w/o reading what they wrote before hand. i fully agree. it is only a snob and a net nanny who insists on proper english at all times. in conversation we use all sorts of shortcuts vernacular colloquialisms and know whut uh mean vern a good conversationalist can adapt their own speech to match that of their audience. it is only when someone is on an entirely different level that difficulties arise. its no fun talking to a snob and its no fun talking to an idiot. at time in all conversations we have said or someone else has said something totally silly ass backwards or switched around and everyone knew exactly what they were talking about. but we are using a medium that doesnt allow for translation of dialect body language local colloquialisms etc. therefore your posts need to be checked for completeness and accuracy if you want your thoughts to be interpreted correctly. typos arent an issue but wrong use of words can completely change

From : Annonymous

on wed 25 apr 2007 201144 -0500 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote this isnt english class. its usenet. lots of shorthand. people tend to type quickly and send prolly w/o reading what they wrote before hand. i fully agree. it is only a snob and a net nanny who insists on proper english at all times. in conversation we use all sorts of shortcuts vernacular colloquialisms and know whut uh mean vern a good conversationalist can adapt their own speech to match that of their audience. it is only when someone is on an entirely different level that difficulties arise. its no fun talking to a snob and its no fun talking to an idiot. at time in all conversations we have said or someone else has said something totally silly ass backwards or switched around and everyone knew exactly what they were talking about. but we are using a medium that doesnt allow for translation of dialect body language local colloquialisms etc. therefore your posts need to be checked for completeness and accuracy if you want your thoughts to be interpreted correctly. typos arent an issue but wrong use of words can completely change the context of a sentence. loose and lose are by far the biggest example i have ever seen of this and do change context when transposed. would you rather the enemy loose his missiles or lose his missiles totally true. my point is that the credibility of these twenty-something morons who dont have a clue that they are using lose/loose and others incorrectly is suspect. if they have such disregard for basic spelling they generally arent too specific about other things either. like facts. and then if that doesnt work they run their potty mouths and end every other word in tard whatever that means. steve yeah kind of like get-r-done .

From : Annonymous

you really dont comprehend well do you he repeatedly stated it is not a .357 magnum instead it is a .357 sig. but of course you had already attacked him. you picked a fight because you made an assumption. rather than apologize you stick to the large caliber argument so you can look like the innocent victim. you are an insecure idiotic im retracting my apology sophomoric horses ass. no but i do stick to the argument that anyone who would blast away at any intruder with a .357 anything would be a remarkable idiot with regards to safety. azidiot was the one who originally made the comment that hed blast away at things that go bump in the night including occupants of his own household with his big bad .357 handgun. i hope he does live in arizona. that puts a lot of distance between us. the rest of you better duck. steve . 222 333618 kuli23967ihv0udjna5012942d2s94tc4g@4ax.com on fri 20 apr 2007 163724 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 155701 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. youre welcome. cant come up with the rest of the rant edited out as my service to my fellow man for today. dweeb steve......you are one huge moron. i bet you got picked on as a kid. that makes we wonder........with that many guns how long will it be before we read about you in the paper pretending to be an intellectual after you get out of jr. high school for the day by using your momys computer is going to get you into trouble little boy. still cant discuss the issues and questions posed but have to resort to ad hominem attacks eh come back when you can logically debate the issues posed. i did dweeb. the issue is you. we can discuss you. i did discuss you. once again you dont know what you are talking about. and in the meantime work on that spelling and grammar and punctuation. oh i sure will little boy. you really suck at it. but hey its never too late to go back to school and graduate. even if it is a ges diploma. ged a subject i suspect that you know a great deal about. do something about your inferiority besides flagrantly demonstrate it. lol. you are really reaching now. you been watching reruns of hulk hogan or what dweeb .

From : Annonymous

on fri 20 apr 2007 170020 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 155701 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. youre welcome. cant come up with the rest of the rant edited out as my service to my fellow man for today. dweeb steve......you are one huge moron. i bet

From : Annonymous

kid. that makes we wonder........with that many guns how long will it be before we read about you in the paper pretending to be an intellectual after you get out of jr. high school for the day by using your momys computer is going to get you into trouble little boy. still cant discuss the issues and questions posed but have to resort to ad hominem attacks eh come back when you can logically debate the issues posed. and in the meantime work on that spelling and grammar and punctuation. you really suck at it. but hey its never too late to go back to school and graduate. even if it is a ges diploma. do something about your inferiority besides flagrantly demonstrate it. you know i would just love for you to explain why it is that you have come to the conclusion that you are superior to anyone in this here group he doesnt larry. he knows what a loser he is he is just trying topiss you off. it did not take albert einstein to figure out who you directed this thread at when you started it but for some reason at the age of 58 you felt you had to. ironically though one would believe that at the age of 58 you would be well beyond the school yard games because steve that is about exactly what you are resorting to. im better then you my dad makes more money then you my house is bigger then yours pretty much it. it is fun to watch him degrade into jr. high school crap though. how is it that you have come taken to insulting and attacking us when you know absolutely nothing about the backgrounds education jobs and so on you think that because you dont feel we follow proper grammar that we are uneducated that we are some lower life form then you make a smart assed reply to theguy about his supposed racial remark based of your writings in this here thread if anyone has a hitler type complex it is you. . 222 333620 c8mi23d39t7s3nl7tc2415nec1pp02qokl@4ax.com on fri 20 apr 2007 170726 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 155701 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on fri 20 apr 2007 125545 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote theguy@whatever.net wrote so while to some degree you have a point i still think that you are just a very uptight anal dweeb who just needs to try to find some reason that he can feel that he is in some way superior to others. you confuse two issues feeling superior and being superior. people who disdain details and are sloppy in their writing are very likely to be sloppy about everything else in their lives. therefore inferior beings. steve very nice adolph. youre welcome. cant come up with the rest of the rant edited out as my service to my fellow man for today. dweeb steve......you are one huge moron. i bet you got picked on as a kid. that makes we wonder........with that many guns how long will it be before we read about you in the paper pretending to be an intellectual after you get out of jr. high school for the day by using your momys computer is going to get you into trouble little boy. still cant discuss the issues and questions posed but have to resort to ad hominem attacks eh come back when you can logically debate the issues posed. and in the meantime work on that spelling and grammar and punctuation. you really suck at it. but hey its never too late to go back to school and graduate. even if it is a ges diploma. do something about your inferiority besides flagrantly demonstrate it. you know i would just love for you to explain why it is that you have come to the conclusion that you are superior to anyone in this here group it did not take albert einstein to figure out who you directed this thread at when you started it but for some reason at the age of 58 you felt you had to. ironically though one would believe that at the age of 58 you would be well beyond the school yard games because steve that is about exactly what you are resorting to. im better then you my dad makes more money then you my house is bigger then yours how is it that you have come taken to insulting and attacking us when you know absolutely nothing about the backgrounds education jobs and so on you think that because you dont feel we follow proper grammar that we are uneducated that we are some lower life form then you make a smart assed reply to theguy about his supposed racial remark based of your writings in this here thread if anyone has a hitler type complex it is you. god you really are dense arent you i wasnt the one who came up with the adolph comment. again larry he is resorting to the bottom barrel type of retorts in this case trying to confuse you about who said what. hes got nothing else. you are not lower life forms i am. that is true steve. at least you realize that. i am just inferior and continue to prove it with every post. steve true again sweeb. .

From : azwiley1

you really suck at it. but hey its never too late to go back to school and graduate. even if it is a ges diploma. this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. .

From : ed h

i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. im even more amazed at the poor reading and comprehension skills of you steveb.. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. comprehension is tough for you isnt it not only is it important to state your thoughts in a clear concise manner its also important to understand what others say to you regardless of your perception of their short comings. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. this is a paradox. either they have intellectual potential as i believe or they are dumber than a q-tip. though i would place you in the latter. they are incapable of reading and comprehending given your posts in the guns on campus thread this is a hoot. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. by this i assume you mean your rest stop buddies in the afformentioned guns on campus thread. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. another hoot son. words mean things hoot hoot. and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot ad infinitum. .

From : ed h

because you are so interested in grammer i would like to point out that many people here cant write that well should read many people here cant write well sans that or many people here dont write well enough for me steve b.. many people here cant write that well yet convey their message or question very well. but for the younger ones who have had the benefit of a free public education theres no excuse. and theyre the ones who usually complain the loudest and who are the most racist because someone else has their job. if one cannot write a simple post how in the world are they going to write a jsa or ipe job safety analysis or in progress evaluation theyre not because laborers arent called to do those tasks. steve .

From : azwiley1

because you are so interested in grammer i would like to point out that many people here cant write that well should read many people here cant write well sans that or many people here dont write well enough for me steve b.. ed its ok for him sammy boy and beryl nuts to use incorrect grammar at least in their minds. many people here cant write that well yet convey their message or question very well. but for the younger ones who have had the benefit of a free public education theres no excuse. and theyre the ones who usually complain the loudest and who are the most racist because someone else has their job. if one cannot write a simple post how in the world are they going to write a jsa or ipe job safety analysis or in progress evaluation theyre not because laborers arent called to do those tasks. why in the world would i want or need to write either of those type of documents neither have squat to do with my profession. since you are such an expert on everything including grammar i would love to have you read one of my papers i had to write for my degree programs to see just how much an expert you really are. oh wait now you are going to start thinking incorrectly again that i am twenty something virgin kid well i will point out for you again that you will be incorrect. .

From : ed h

just pointing out to a metericious snob complaining about improper grammer that said snobs grammer was incorrect. as to youre inept attempt at an insult... all my communications with azwily1 are in the public record as they have only been in the public groups. as seems to be more your| youre| you are| yalls| yarse modus operandi when your| youre| you are| yalls| yarse feelings have been hurt you resort to baseless name calling. in case you wonder about my use of ... ... i suggest you read the introduction to any technical manual then look up the definitions of the words within the square brackes that is the and and between the vertical bar that is |. and try to figure out what i wrote you. because you are so interested in grammer i would like to point out that many people here cant write that well should read many people here cant write well sans that or many people here dont write well enough for me steve b.. oh god. nitpicking are we if you want to pick apart something a lot more undecipherable start with azidiots use of the english language. oh i forgot. you rump rangers stick together right steve .

From : beryl

ed h. wrote because were all so interested in nitpicking... just pointing out to a metericious snob complaining about improper grammer metericious that said snobs grammer was incorrect. grammar with two as quote because you are so interested in grammer i would like to point out that many people here cant write that well should read many people here cant write well sans that sans the redundant people too its understood that people do the writing. many here cant write well. as to youre inept attempt at an insult... your all my communications with azwily1 are in the public record as they have azwiley1 comma goes here ^ only been in the public groups. as seems to be more your| youre| you are| yalls| yarse modus operandi when your| youre| you are| yalls| yarse feelings have been hurt you resort to baseless name calling. in case you wonder about my use of ... ... i suggest you read the introduction to any technical manual then look up the definitions of the words within the square brackes that is the and and between the brackets those are the and vertical bar that is |. and try to figure out what i wrote you. bars those are | |... and why did you put a period outside the parentheses before the lowercase and -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .

From : beryl

azwiley1 wrote you really suck at it. but hey its never too late to go back to school and graduate. even if it is a ges diploma. this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. you blurt out the dopiest comments imaginable. -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .

From : roger rabbid

on thu 19 apr 2007 232739 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve actually i did quite poorly with english during my school days and i havent suffered an ounce of consequence for it. do i spell every word in my posts correctly the answer to that would be an emphatic no. do i go out of my way to again no! i work for a very secure company i make top wages in my field and the future for my family and i is secure. have i attended any schools none! everything i know is via hands on. intelligent people dont need college trade schools or anything else of that nature to be intelligent productive members of society making good wages and worrying about the security of their jobs. so what if they use chatroom shorthand big whoop!! were all guilty of it. like the other posters have said. its all in the way they lay out the description of their problems. quit knitpicking and do something more constructive with your perfect punctuation!! ive seen people in high paying positions who cant distinguish the difference between many english words and yet there they are with all of their education constantly making spelling errors in company literature. does it make them dumb as a box of q-tips no. all you have managed to do is point out your own ignorance to what real intelligence is all about. this country wouldnt function if not for the c average english using population. be thankful were here... we keep your shit running for you because youre incapable of doing it for yourself. ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-unrestricted-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .

From : beryl

ed h. wrote i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. im even more amazed at the poor reading and comprehension skills of you steveb.. the skills of you huh we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. comprehension is tough for you isnt it not only is it important to state your thoughts in a clear concise manner its also important to understand what others say to you regardless of your perception of their short comings. how short are your comings ed ever get them past your shoes while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. this is a paradox. either they have intellectual potential as i believe or they are dumber than a q-tip. ah you see they as one cohesive group a group which must be either/or. though i would place you in the latter. the latter what group where did that paradox go they are incapable of reading and comprehending given your posts in the guns on campus thread this is a hoot. hoot and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. by this i assume you mean your rest stop buddies in the afformentioned guns on campus thread. dont make giggly assumptions so based on someone elses giggly remarks say something real here. try. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. another hoot son. hoot words mean things hoot hoot. hoot and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot ad infinitum. great work ed. -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .

From : roger rabbid

on sat 21 apr 2007 021417 -0400 roger rabbid obliterator@comcast.net wrote on thu 19 apr 2007 232739 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve actually i did quite poorly with english during my school days and i havent suffered an ounce of consequence for it. do i spell every word in my posts correctly the answer to that would be an emphatic no. do i go out of my way to again no! i work for a very secure company i make top wages in my field and the future for my family and i is secure. have i attended any schools none! everything i know is via hands on. intelligent people dont need college trade schools or anything else of that nature to be intelligent productive members of society making good wages and worrying about the security of their jobs. so what if they use chatroom shorthand big whoop!! were all guilty of it. like the other posters have said. its all in the way they lay out the description of their problems. quit knitpicking and do something more constructive with your perfect punctuation!! ive seen people in high paying positions who cant distinguish the difference between many english words and yet there they are with all of their education constantly making spelling errors in company literature. does it make them dumb as a box of q-tips no. all you have managed to do is point out your own ignorance to what real intelligence is all about. this country wouldnt function if not for the c average english using population. be thankful were here... we keep your shit running for you because youre incapable of doing it for yourself. i fergitted da dayum spellered cheeker thingermahjiggy. shame on me! ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-unrestricted-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-unrestricted-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .

From : steve b

dont you mean ged yes i did. and d and s are very close on the keyboard. but hey i made the mistake. at least i have my then/than youryoure their/there/theyre and two/to/too usages correct. thanks for bringing that to my attention. steve .

From : ed h

you are correct spelling wasnt one of my best skills in school. but then i didnt go on a tiraid about language skills. ed h. wrote because were all so interested in nitpicking... just pointing out to a metericious snob complaining about improper grammer metericious that said snobs grammer was incorrect. grammar with two as .

From : carolina watercraft works

dont you mean ged -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels you really suck at it. but hey its never too late to go back to school and graduate. even if it is a ges diploma. this explains it all!!! he was home schooled and his mommy made his ges diploma for him out of needle point to go with his pin head and needle dick. .

From : steve b

azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote so it is ok for you to nitpick and blatantly attack me some one you do not know and have never conversed with over something as petty as lack of information in a reply in a thread that was not even directed to you. yet we are not allowed to do the same to you i just love your double standards. i notice your standards are now shifting. now your ignorance of guns is a lack of information were you ever in politics have you ever considered a career in that field you would be good at it the way you change subjects divert focus fail to answer questions answer questions with emotional ad hominem attacks and just do the doublespeak sidestep dance. steve .

From : steve b

ed h. edo.hart@verizon.net wrote i suggest you read the introduction to any technical manual then look up the definitions of the words within the square brackes that is the and and between the vertical bar that is |. and try to figure out what i wrote you. please ed! reading what you post makes me dizzy. rereading it would make me plain nauseous to the point of vomiting. steve .

From : ed h

please ed! reading what you post makes me dizzy. rereading it would make me plain nauseous to the point of vomiting. steve that gives me a small amount of pleasure. .

From : steve b

roger rabbid obliterator@comcast.net wrote i fergitted da dayum spellered cheeker thingermahjiggy. shame on me! your post was most eloquent. i just have trouble giving any credibility to someone who writes something like their are two many trucks inn the road and doesnt have a clue they made a mistake. steve .

From : Annonymous

only great minds can read this this is weird but interesting! fi yuo cna raed tihs yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too cna yuo raed tihs olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg. the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy it dsenot mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. the rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe. azanmig huh yaeh and i awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! so does it really matter just as long as you have the correct letters at the beginning and end of a word the letters in the middle are in the correctly spelled word and its a word that the adult reading it has seen before. still that is a pretty amazing phenomenon. .

From : rm

only great minds can read this this is weird but interesting! fi yuo cna raed tihs yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too cna yuo raed tihs olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg. the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy it dsenot mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. the rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe. azanmig huh yaeh and i awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! so does it really matter i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve .

From : steve b

on sat 21 apr 2007 093243 -0600 rm rmer@cableone.net wrote only great minds can read this this is weird but interesting! fi yuo cna raed tihs yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too cna yuo raed tihs olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg. the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy it dsenot mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. the rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe. azanmig huh yaeh and i awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! so does it really matter scuh a cdonition is arppoiately cllaed typoglycemia . .

From : ed h

ed h. wrote i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. im even more amazed at the poor reading and comprehension skills of you steveb.. the skills of you huh egad i really embarrased my self with that one. composition was another area in school in which i was weak and ive worked to correct it ever since. after a few adult beverages on a friday night i sometimes slip into my old habits. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. comprehension is tough for you isnt it not only is it important to state your thoughts in a clear concise manner its also important to understand what others say to you regardless of your perception of their short comings. how short are your comings ed ever get them past your shoes while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. this is a paradox. either they have intellectual potential as i believe or they are dumber than a q-tip. ah you see they as one cohesive group a group which must be either/or. after re-reading steves remarks i see what he means. sometimes my comprehension is flawed too. at least i can admit it. therefore i retract my paradox statement. though i would place you in the latter. the latter what group where did that paradox go they are incapable of reading and comprehending given your posts in the guns on campus thread this is a hoot. hoot and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. by this i assume you mean your rest stop buddies in the afformentioned guns on campus thread. dont make giggly assumptions so based on someone elses giggly remarks say something real here. try. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. another hoot son. hoot words mean things hoot hoot. hoot and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot ad infinitum. great work ed. -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni thank you beryl for taking the time to correct my mistakes. .

From : steve b

on thu 19 apr 2007 232739 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve actually i did quite poorly with english during my school days and i havent suffered an ounce of consequence for it. do i spell every word in my posts correctly the answer to that would be an emphatic no. do i go out of my way to again no! i work for a very secure company i make top wages in my field and the future for my family and i is secure. have i attended any schools none! everything i know is via hands on. intelligent people dont need college trade schools or anything else of that nature to be intelligent productive members of society making good wages and worrying about the security of their jobs. so what if they use chatroom shorthand big whoop!! were all guilty of it. like the other posters have said. its all in the way they lay out the description of their problems. quit knitpicking and do something more constructive with your perfect punctuation!! ive seen people in high paying positions who cant distinguish the difference between many english words and yet there they are with all of their education constantly making spelling errors in company literature. does it make them dumb as a box of q-tips no. all you have managed to do is point out your own ignorance to what real intelligence is all about. this country wouldnt function if not for the c average english using population. be thankful were here... we keep your shit running for you because youre incapable of doing it for yourself. as a former tradesman i agree with you. theres the guys who sit around and talk about it and plan it and plot it then theres the guys who get out there and get it done. im sorry you were unable to grasp my post. what i said is that it is sad to accept unacceptable behavior and to foster it by not seeking for a higher standard. to wit even azidiots posts have come up a noticeable notch in his use of english since this thread started. he is using upper case letters to start sentences and using more punctuation. he is spelling better and i cant say if that is because he is watching what he posts more or just turned on the spell checker. he is making more sense. before he looked like a crackhead with a typewriter. now he is looking better. and i think its because hes just thinking a little more. i am glad you are successful. i have known many successful men who were lacking in skills. yet in todays world those people are becoming rarer and rarer. and many times i see that people hit the glass ceiling when moving up in a company because of their skill levels which prevent them from going any farther. and a

From : rm

only great minds can read this this is weird but interesting! fi yuo cna raed tihs yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too cna yuo raed tihs olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg. the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy it dsenot mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. the rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe. azanmig huh yaeh and i awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! so does it really matter it only matter in the areas of perception and credibility. people who speak in dialects like street talk and expect others to do the same and to be able to understand are perceived as what they are and are given very little credibility. so yes we can understand whats being said. its just so much nonverbal information is also given. steve .

From : rm

on sat 21 apr 2007 093243 -0600 rm rmer@cableone.net wrote only great minds can read this this is weird but interesting! fi yuo cna raed tihs yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too cna yuo raed tihs olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg. the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy it dsenot mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. the rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe. azanmig huh yaeh and i awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! so does it really matter scuh a cdonition is arppoiately cllaed typoglycemia . .

From : azwiley1

omg...is there a prescription drug for this on sat 21 apr 2007 093243 -0600 rm rmer@cableone.net wrote only great minds can read this this is weird but interesting! fi yuo cna raed tihs yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too cna yuo raed tihs olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. i cdnuolt blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg. the phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at cmabrigde uinervtisy it dsenot mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. the rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe. azanmig huh yaeh and i awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! so does it really matter scuh a cdonition is arppoiately cllaed typoglycemia . .

From : azwiley1

azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote so it is ok for you to nitpick and blatantly attack me some one you do not know and have never conversed with over something as petty as lack of information in a reply in a thread that was not even directed to you. yet we are not allowed to do the same to you i just love your double standards. i notice your standards are now shifting. now your ignorance of guns is a lack of information my standards have not shifted to anything other then what the truth of the matter is the fact that for some reason you jumped in and attacked someone for not providing you all the information you felt should have been provided. i do not have an ignorance of guns but you think what you will assclown. please explain to me you ignorant troll exactly how it is that because i did not specifically state for your edification that it was a .357 sig vice a .357 magnum that i am the child that i am the stupid one that i am the one that has a problem what is it that you repeatedly fail to understand and comprehend you are the only one that has a problem with me over this posting as for why i am still waiting on an explaination. my not adding sig or magnum is absolutely not an issue with anyone else but you and in absolutely no way indicates or as you like to see things preve i have a lack of knowledge in weapon ballistics. it has been pointed out that you have done the very same think concerning the .22 round but it is acceptable for you to do right when and where did i piss in your cheerios to warrant the blatant attack from you were you ever in politics no but if i were i would ensure that self rightous pompus asses like you dont own computers or guns! have you ever considered a career in that field you would be good at it the way you change subjects divert focus fail to answer questions answer questions with emotional ad hominem attacks and just do the doublespeak sidestep dance. steve .

From : azwiley1

so it is ok for you to make mistakes but no one else. it is ok for you to jump on some one for omitting a very small piece of information only to turn around and do the very same thing double standards once again are you related to al sharpton and/or jesse jackson dont you mean ged yes i did. and d and s are very close on the keyboard. but hey i made the mistake. at least i have my then/than youryoure their/there/theyre and two/to/too usages correct. thanks for bringing that to my attention. steve .

From : steve b

azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote what is so ungodly hard about explaining your actions iirc the whole thing started with your statements about jumping up in the middle of the dark and stormy night and shooting at every movement and sound with your .357. and then i took exception of that from a safety standpoint and we were off to the races from there. did you get it that time pookie steve .

From : azwiley1

youll like this go fuck yourself douchebag ya know at least i have enough respect for a lowlife self righteous pompous ass to use his proper screen name. to bad that at the age of 58 you dont have the same respect. on thu 19 apr 2007 232739 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote i am amazed at the low quality writing skills of the average group member. people are incapable of writing complete accurate sentences. their grammar is poor and their spelling is just plain horrible. punctuation and syntax are second thoughts. chatroomese seems to dominate with no rules and substitute words that are harder to type than the actual correct word. they are compound ignorant; so ignorant that they dont know theyre ignorant. we get in all sorts of discussions about our labor being sent overseas and jobs being stolen from real americans. i can understand why corporations outsource their technical help by just speaking with and reading the comments of these twenty something failures. fact is its not an issue of jobs americans do not want its an issue of jobs that many americans just cant do. while it is true that the united states has a great crop of young minds with intellectual potential it is also true that a very high percentage of the young population is dumber than a q-tip. no wonder they are working at marginal careers and still living at home with mom and pop. they are incapable of reading and comprehending technical manuals writing a 1500 word half way decent progress report on a project and wont even use the most basic tools of a thesaurus dictionary or spellchecker. so many do not even comprehend the difference in there/their/theyre type of word usage. and theres the issue of one ignorant fool rushing in to protect and save another. they band together tighter than a bunch of jehovahs witnesses when you challenge one of them on their lack of skills or intelligence. being stupid is a temporary situation and no shame is associated with it. staying stupid is a choice and shame on those who choose to do so. if youre tired of our country being overrun by illegal aliens and our jobs being sent overseas to people who can do them stop accepting less than acceptable behavior. words mean things and when a person is incapable of at least communicating effectively they are worthless in the job market. they come across as immature uneducated juveniles which is exactly what they are. what company is going to invest time and money in them when they show they cant even pay attention in english class steve actually i did quite poorly with english during my school days and i havent suffered an ounce of consequence for it. do i spell every word in my posts correctly the answer to that would be an emphatic no. do i go out of my way to again no! i work for a very secure company i make top wages in my field and the future for my family and i is secure. have i attended any schools none! everything i know is via hands on. intelligent people dont need college trade schools or anything else of that nature to be intelligent productive members of society making good wages and worrying about the security of their jobs. so what if they use chatroom shorthand big whoop!! were all guilty of it. like the other posters have said. its all in the way they lay out the description of their problems. quit knitpicking and do something more constructive with your perfect punctuation!! ive seen people in high paying positions who cant distinguish the difference between many english words and yet there they are with all of their education constantly making spelling errors in company literature. does it make them dumb as a box of q-tips no. all you have managed to do is point out your own ignorance to what real intelligence is all about. this country wouldnt function if not for the c average english using population. be thankful were here... we keep your shit running for you because youre incapable of doing it for yourself. as a former tradesman i agree with you. theres the guys who sit around and talk about it and plan it and plot it then theres the guys who get out there and get it done. im sorry you were unable to grasp my post. what i said is that it is sad to accept unacceptable behavior and to foster it by not seeking for a higher standard. to wit even azidiots posts have come up a noticeable notch in his use of english since this thread started. he is using upper case letters to start sentences and using more punctuation. he is spelling better and i cant say if that is because he is watching what he posts more or just turned on the spell checker. he is making more sense. before he looked like a crackhead with a typewriter. now he is looking better. and i think its because hes just thinking a little more. i am glad you are successful. i have known many successful men who were lacking in skills

From : Annonymous

on sat 21 apr 2007 094829 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote youll like this go fuck yourself douchebag ya know at least i have enough respect for a lowlife self righteous pompous ass to use his proper screen name. to bad that at the age of 58 you dont have the same respect. silly lil boy the following is from one of your posts he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about roy his head is too far up snotard ass to hear read or write in a manner that every one else can understand. about the only thing that we could all understand and slightly agree on was we were all sick of the bible thumping. talk about double standards. now if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. .

From : Annonymous

on sat 21 apr 2007 170446 gmt samstone@aol.com wrote on sat 21 apr 2007 094829 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote youll like this go fuck yourself douchebag ya know at least i have enough respect for a lowlife self righteous pompous ass to use his proper screen name. to bad that at the age of 58 you dont have the same respect. silly lil boy the following is from one of your posts he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about roy his head is too far up snotard ass to hear read or write in a manner that every one else can understand. about the only thing that we could all understand and slightly agree on was we were all sick of the bible thumping. talk about double standards. now if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. shitstone..........it is so nice of you barrell and dweeb to come over here from the home repair groups to help out snotard. maybe we should all go over the home repair groups and continue this there although none of you seem to be real popular over there since you act with the same arrogance there that you do here. never the less you do seem to have more ability with home repair than with guns. somehow that doesnt surprise me. do you three share a home you must. who is the pitcher and who is the catcher not that it is any of my business but i am curious. .

From : steve b

azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote so it is ok for you to nitpick and blatantly attack me some one you do not know and have never conversed with over something as petty as lack of information in a reply in a thread that was not even directed to you. yet we are not allowed to do the same to you i just love your double standards. i notice your standards are now shifting. now your ignorance of guns is a lack of information my standards have not shifted to anything other then what the truth of the matter is the fact that for some reason you jumped in and attacked someone for not providing you all the information you felt should have been provided. i do not have an ignorance of guns but you think what you will assclown. please explain to me you ignorant troll exactly how it is that because i did not specifically state for your edification that it was a .357 sig vice a .357 magnum that i am the child that i am the stupid one that i am the one that has a problem what is it that you repeatedly fail to understand and comprehend you are the only one that has a problem with me over this posting as for why i am still waiting on an explaination. my not adding sig or magnum is absolutely not an issue with anyone else but you and in absolutely no way indicates or as you like to see things preve i have a lack of knowledge in weapon ballistics. it has been pointed out that you have done the very same think concerning the .22 round but it is acceptable for you to do right when and where did i piss in your cheerios to warrant the blatant attack from you were you ever in politics no but if i were i would ensure that self rightous pompus asses like you dont own computers or guns! have you ever considered a career in that field you would be good at it the way you change subjects divert focus fail to answer questions answer questions with emotional ad hominem attacks and just do the doublespeak sidestep dance. steve i can see my efforts are paying off! you are speaking in more complete sentences. your run on sentences are becoming much shorter. your grammatical and spelling errors are becoming fewer. congratulations. you see how easy it is if one just thinks a bit. ill let the vice thing slide as i dont want to criticize an otherwise good piece of writing from you. keep up the good work. i was a little disappointed at the end there though when you said no but if i were i would ensure that self rightous pompus asses like you dont own computers or guns! you were doing good until then. people who are a lot better than you at taking away our rights are out there right now trying to do this very thing. perhaps you could contact them if you think you are qualified to be on their team. theyre always looking for gullible misinformed followers. just remember that youd have to give up your gun and computer too. again kudos on your improved writing. steve .

From : steve b

so it is ok for you to make mistakes but no one else. it is ok for you to jump on some one for omitting a very small piece of information only to turn around and do the very same thing double standards once again are you related to al sharpton and/or jesse jackson a typo of an s for a d pales by your following statement no but if i were i would ensure that self rightous pompus asses like you dont own computers or guns! self rightous pompus congratulations on getting ensure right though is that one of your new spelling words this week steve .

From : azwiley1

so it is ok for you to make mistakes but no one else. it is ok for you to jump on some one for omitting a very small piece of information only to turn around and do the very same thing double standards once again are you related to al sharpton and/or jesse jackson a typo of an s for a d pales by your following statement oh but it is a mistake that is allowed by you but no one else can make them. this is the crux of this situation not the fact that a mistake was made by anyone but that you attacked some one for making an incomplete statement at least as you saw it than you went on to do the same very thing. yet when you were called on it very politely i might add unlike the manner in which you did you retreated with tucked tail and started on the spelling grammar and math skills of others. ironically enough you still have not explained why you felt it necessary to jump in and attack the way you did. is it because you are trying to defend snoman against what there is a huge difference between he and i first my post was not in direct reply to someone asking a question or seeking help as where he has a habit of doing so with useless information. would you like examples second when i do reply directly to someone in need of help the information i provide is not detrimental or harmful as where his on many though not all cases is. again would you like examples again steve what exactly is it that popped your cork about my post other than i omitted either sig or magnum what is so ungodly hard about explaining your actions .

From : Annonymous

on sat 21 apr 2007 101958 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote so it is ok for you to nitpick and blatantly attack me some one you do not know and have never conversed with over something as petty as lack of information in a reply in a thread that was not even directed to you. yet we are not allowed to do the same to you i just love your double standards. i notice your standards are now shifting. now your ignorance of guns is a lack of information my standards have not shifted to anything other then what the truth of the matter is the fact that for some reason you jumped in and attacked someone for not providing you all the information you felt should have been provided. i do not have an ignorance of guns but you think what you will assclown. please explain to me you ignorant troll exactly how it is that because i did not specifically state for your edification that it was a .357 sig vice a .357 magnum that i am the child that i am the stupid one that i am the one that has a problem what is it that you repeatedly fail to understand and comprehend you are the only one that has a problem with me over this posting as for why i am still waiting on an explaination. my not adding sig or magnum is absolutely not an issue with anyone else but you and in absolutely no way indicates or as you like to see things preve i have a lack of knowledge in weapon ballistics. it has been pointed out that you have done the very same think concerning the .22 round but it is acceptable for you to do right when and where did i piss in your cheerios to warrant the blatant attack from you were you ever in politics no but if i were i would ensure that self rightous pompus asses like you dont own computers or guns! have you ever considered a career in that field you would be good at it the way you change subjects divert focus fail to answer questions answer questions with emotional ad hominem attacks and just do the doublespeak sidestep dance. steve i can see my efforts are paying off! your efforts are always appreciated dweeb. you are speaking in more complete sentences. your run on sentences are becoming much shorter. your grammatical and spelling errors are becoming fewer. congratulations. you see how easy it is if one just thinks a bit. ill let the vice thing slide as i dont want to criticize an otherwise good piece of writing from you. keep up the good work. i was a little disappointed at the end there though when you said no but if i were i would ensure that self rightous pompus asses like you dont own computers or guns! you were doing good until then. people who are a lot better than you at taking away our rights are out there right now trying to do this very thing. perhaps you could contact them if you think you are qualified to be on their team. theyre always looking for gullible misinformed followers. just remember that youd have to give up your gun and computer too. again kudos on your improved writing. steve .

From : steve b

on sat 21 apr 2007 170446 gmt samstone@aol.com wrote on sat 21 apr 2007 094829 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote youll like this go fuck yourself douchebag ya know at least i have enough respect for a lowlife self righteous pompous ass to use his proper screen name. to bad that at the age of 58 you dont have the same respect. silly lil boy the following is from one of your posts he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about roy his head is too far up snotard ass to hear read or write in a manner that every one else can understand. about the only thing that we could all understand and slightly agree on was we were all sick of the bible thumping. talk about double standards. now if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. shitstone..........it is so nice of you barrell and dweeb to come over here from the home repair groups to help out snotard. maybe we should all go over the home repair groups and continue this there although none of you seem to be real popular over there since you act with the same arrogance there that you do here. never the less you do seem to have more ability with home repair than with guns. somehow that doesnt surprise me. do you three share a home you must. who is the pitcher and who is the catcher not that it is any of my business but i am curious. we are always happy to help out inferior beings no matter the venue. steve .

From : azwiley1

azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote what is so ungodly hard about explaining your actions iirc the whole thing started with your statements about jumping up in the middle of the dark and stormy night and shooting at every movement and sound with your .357. and then i took exception of that from a safety standpoint and we were off to the races from there. and once again i will ask that you show me where i stated that i would jumped up in the middle of the dark and stormy night and shooting at every movement and sound with your .357. you cant and you know it because i never fucking said it. dont snip it to suit you assclown the fact is those word were never typed by me. you and your fucking faggot ass friends spun it that way to justify your actions! you didnt take exception to shit all that was said you fucking attacked me about something that was none of your fucking concern. as to the safety standpoint dont worry i dont miss what i shoot at and i would be more then happy to demonstrate on your sorry ass. .

From : Annonymous

on sat 21 apr 2007 114439 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on sat 21 apr 2007 170446 gmt samstone@aol.com wrote on sat 21 apr 2007 094829 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote youll like this go fuck yourself douchebag ya know at least i have enough respect for a lowlife self righteous pompous ass to use his proper screen name. to bad that at the age of 58 you dont have the same respect. silly lil boy the following is from one of your posts he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about roy his head is too far up snotard ass to hear read or write in a manner that every one else can understand. about the only thing that we could all understand and slightly agree on was we were all sick of the bible thumping. talk about double standards. now if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. shitstone..........it is so nice of you barrell and dweeb to come over here from the home repair groups to help out snotard. maybe we should all go over the home repair groups and continue this there although none of you seem to be real popular over there since you act with the same arrogance there that you do here. never the less you do seem to have more ability with home repair than with guns. somehow that doesnt surprise me. do you three share a home you must. who is the pitcher and who is the catcher not that it is any of my business but i am curious. we are always happy to help out inferior beings no matter the venue. well........just know that it is appreciated dweeb. steve .

From : ed h

in the sober light of midday i realize i made more than a few grammatical mistakes. i guess i shouldnt sit down at the computer with glass of wine after a long walk with the dogs. youre in place of your is the most embarrasing; i really do know the difference. when i see a mistake as bad as many people here cant write that well i assume that pesky little verb again that professor steve b. must have his grammar mostly correct and didnt see the redundancy of people. why did you not correct him in when you corrected me after all hes the one who wrote such a heart felt essay on the subject of the english language. as to metericious i meant meretricious; i left out an re near the beginning. one day i may actually use a spell checker but for now i choose to live on the wild side as a means to improve my spelling. i disagree with the comma comment but maybe thats because i dont know between which two words you refer because my reader shows your correction in the middle of public. even between record and as i dont think a comma is appropriate because as is a seperator word thus precluding the need for a comma. the period outside the closing parentheses i dont know it must have just been a typographical error. steve b. is allowed at least one per post please extend the same favor to me. to both beryl and steve b. please correct any spelling punctuation and grammar errors. im willing to learn from anyone even those as arrogant as yourselves. ed h. wrote because were all so interested in nitpicking... just pointing out to a metericious snob complaining about improper grammer metericious that said snobs grammer was incorrect. grammar with two as quote because you are so interested in grammer i would like to point out that many people here cant write that well should read many people here cant write well sans that sans the redundant people too its understood that people do the writing. many here cant write well. as to youre inept attempt at an insult... your all my communications with azwily1 are in the public record as they have azwiley1 comma goes here ^ only been in the public groups. as seems to be more your| youre| you are| yalls| yarse modus operandi when your| youre| you are| yalls| yarse feelings have been hurt you resort to baseless name calling. in case you wonder about my use of ... ... i suggest you read the introduction to any technical manual then look up the definitions of the words within the square brackes that is the and and between the brackets those are the and vertical bar that is |. and try to figure out what i wrote you. bars those are | |... and why did you put a period outside the parentheses before the lowercase and -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .

From : ed h

easy steve. let me sleep work in the yard clean my cars do laundry and take care of all the other things non-retired people must do when time permits. believe it or not i dont hang around waiting for your witty posts. ed h. wrote because were all so interested in nitpicking... just pointing out to a metericious snob complaining about improper grammer metericious that said snobs grammer was incorrect. grammar with two as well ed .

From : beryl

ed h. wrote you are correct spelling wasnt one of my best skills in school. but then i didnt go on a tiraid about language skills. but azpunkinpulp did last month. pity he couldnt foresee the snoball pun intended effect. -- in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni .

From : steve b

in the sober light of midday i realize i made more than a few grammatical mistakes. i guess i shouldnt sit down at the computer with glass of wine after a long walk with the dogs. youre in place of your is the most embarrasing; i really do know the difference. when i see a mistake as bad as many people here cant write that well i assume that pesky little verb again that professor steve b. must have his grammar mostly correct and didnt see the redundancy of people. why did you not correct him in when you corrected me after all hes the one who wrote such a heart felt essay on the subject of the english language. as to metericious i meant meretricious; i left out an re near the beginning. one day i may actually use a spell checker but for now i choose to live on the wild side as a means to improve my spelling. i disagree with the comma comment but maybe thats because i dont know between which two words you refer because my reader shows your correction in the middle of public. even between record and as i dont think a comma is appropriate because as is a seperator word thus precluding the need for a comma. the period outside the closing parentheses i dont know it must have just been a typographical error. steve b. is allowed at least one per post please extend the same favor to me. to both beryl and steve b. please correct any spelling punctuation and grammar errors. im willing to learn from anyone even those as arrogant as yourselves. arrogant teachers do get your attention dont they i have learned the most from those types. as for you young man theres nothing wrong with your writing or your writing style. i do have a problem with those who write in chatroomese who use run on sentences and cant even operate a spell checker for the basic words. we all do have typos and momentary lapses and just plain mistakes. its the twelve year olds who spew curse words and cant put their thoughts down that i have trouble with. but because of that theyre the easiest to deal with. steve .

From : steve b

easy steve. let me sleep work in the yard clean my cars do laundry and take care of all the other things non-retired people must do when time permits. believe it or not i dont hang around waiting for your witty posts. it dont get any better after retirement. i do all those things too. many days i wished id go back to work so i wouldnt have to work as hard as i do now. but i usually just go take a nap until the thought passes. steve .

From : steve b

on sat 21 apr 2007 114439 -0700 steve b surdo2diver@neptune.com wrote on sat 21 apr 2007 170446 gmt samstone@aol.com wrote on sat 21 apr 2007 094829 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote youll like this go fuck yourself douchebag ya know at least i have enough respect for a lowlife self righteous pompous ass to use his proper screen name. to bad that at the age of 58 you dont have the same respect. silly lil boy the following is from one of your posts he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about roy his head is too far up snotard ass to hear read or write in a manner that every one else can understand. about the only thing that we could all understand and slightly agree on was we were all sick of the bible thumping. talk about double standards. now if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. shitstone..........it is so nice of you barrell and dweeb to come over here from the home repair groups to help out snotard. maybe we should all go over the home repair groups and continue this there although none of you seem to be real popular over there since you act with the same arrogance there that you do here. never the less you do seem to have more ability with home repair than with guns. somehow that doesnt surprise me. do you three share a home you must. who is the pitcher and who is the catcher not that it is any of my business but i am curious. we are always happy to help out inferior beings no matter the venue. well........just know that it is appreciated dweeb. steve youre welcome and just know we do it for the altruism and for no personal reward other than helping people. look at how much certain people have improved in just a short time. steve .

From : steve b

azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote what is so ungodly hard about explaining your actions iirc the whole thing started with your statements about jumping up in the middle of the dark and stormy night and shooting at every movement and sound with your .357. and then i took exception of that from a safety standpoint and we were off to the races from there. and once again i will ask that you show me where i stated that i would jumped up in the middle of the dark and stormy night and shooting at every movement and sound with your .357. you cant and you know it because i never fucking said it. dont snip it to suit you assclown the fact is those word were never typed by me. you and your fucking faggot ass friends spun it that way to justify your actions! you didnt take exception to shit all that was said you fucking attacked me about something that was none of your fucking concern. as to the safety standpoint dont worry i dont miss what i shoot at and i would be more then happy to demonstrate on your sorry ass. im sorry but this writing essay gets an f-. please rewrite it without curse words and i shall consider reading it. your english goes to heck when you get emotional doesnt it youll need to conquer that before graduating middle school as i hear they are cracking down on angry outbursts in the high schools now. steve .

From : ed h

as for you young man theres nothing wrong with your writing or your writing style. i do have a problem with those who write in chatroomese who use run on sentences and cant even operate a spell checker spell checking software is a crutch. for the basic words. we all do have typos and momentary lapses and just plain mistakes. its the twelve year olds who spew curse words and cant put their thoughts down that i have trouble with. but because of that theyre the easiest to deal with. and you like the easy meat dont you steve .

From : steve b

ed h. edo.hart@verizon.net wrote spell checking software is a crutch. spell check is like a dictionary. they dont do a lot of good unless you know how to use them and have a good idea of how to spell the word in the first place. but they do catch a lot of typos. its funny at times what gets through spell check. like those programs that were available a few years ago that were supposed to type what you spoke they were hilarious at times. but because of that theyre the easiest to deal with. and you like the easy meat dont you huh i fail to follow your homoerotic comments. would you care to explain and whats this thing with esp and your belief that you can tell what other people are thinking if you believe that you are a nut case or are needed in the nsa. dont quit your therapist. steve .

From : azwiley1

as for you young man theres nothing wrong with your writing or your writing style. i do have a problem with those who write in chatroomese who use run on sentences and cant even operate a spell checker for the basic words. we all do have typos and momentary lapses and just plain mistakes. its the twelve year olds who spew curse words and cant put their thoughts down that i have trouble with. what are you doing in here as there are no 12 year olds. let me hear the insults again about my age due to your ignorance and lack of knowledge .

From : steve b

as for you young man theres nothing wrong with your writing or your writing style. i do have a problem with those who write in chatroomese who use run on sentences and cant even operate a spell checker for the basic words. we all do have typos and momentary lapses and just plain mistakes. its the twelve year olds who spew curse words and cant put their thoughts down that i have trouble with. what are you doing in here as there are no 12 year olds. let me hear the insults again about my age due to your ignorance and lack of knowledge im sorry. my comments were to ed h. your part of this conversation is .................. class class .

From : ed h

but because of that theyre the easiest to deal with. and you like the easy meat dont you it is a reference to a line from a pink floyd song. i cant blame you for not catching that. however i notice many mentions of homoerotic and rest stops in your posts. i made one comment actually two after correcting myself by inserting a missing word about your love of sheep. im not particulary proud of that comment but in light of your post that im responding to now i think it rings true. huh i fail to follow your homoerotic comments. would you care to explain and whats this thing with esp and your belief that you can tell what other people are thinking im paraphrasing here but you stated its easier to deal with 12 year olds that cuss a lot. if given the task of finding all your cusses and/or insulting remarks for no reason from those you were responding to over the last few days i will do my best. if you believe that you are a nut case or are needed in the nsa. i wouldnt take the drop in pay the nsa could afford. dont quit your therapist. why would i shes a great lay. steve .

From : azwiley1

as for you young man theres nothing wrong with your writing or your writing style. i do have a problem with those who write in chatroomese who use run on sentences and cant even operate a spell checker for the basic words. we all do have typos and momentary lapses and just plain mistakes. its the twelve year olds who spew curse words and cant put their thoughts down that i have trouble with. what are you doing in here as there are no 12 year olds. let me hear the insults again about my age due to your ignorance and lack of knowledge im sorry. my comments were to ed h. your part of this conversation is ................. just like my comments in the reply where i mention .357 with out anything else were to some one else! you were not involved in the entire thread until you attacked me in a comment to some one else sorry forgot you were all about double standards and the do as i say not as i do rule! .

From : carolina watercraft works

yeah...i know. was jsut giving you a hard time is all. you like that jsut up there -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels dont you mean ged yes i did. and d and s are very close on the keyboard. but hey i made the mistake. at least i have my then/than youryoure their/there/theyre and two/to/too usages correct. thanks for bringing that to my attention. steve .

From : ed h

clueless short dicked eggheads... homoerotic rump rangers but more than that its your general smug attitude that would cause me to escort you to the door if you said those things in my house. this is not the eloquent reply i excepted from you professor steve. however im pleasantly surprised you didnt call me names that i wont allow in my house. i guess maybe you too can learn. that doesnt make sense. excepted typo you have them too. its kind of like another post in which the letters within the words were all jumbled my eyes went right over it. besides i doubt youre confused youre just using it as an excuse to act superior. as to foul language you have me confused with azwiley on that count. steve .

From : steve b

but because of that theyre the easiest to deal with. and you like the easy meat dont you it is a reference to a line from a pink floyd song. i cant blame you for not catching that. how can you have any pudding if you dont eat yer meat youre talking to an old pink floyd fan. early stuff. like meddle. please for my own peace of mind where is the easy meat line in pink floyd steve .

From : steve b

as for you young man theres nothing wrong with your writing or your writing style. i do have a problem with those who write in chatroomese who use run on sentences and cant even operate a spell checker for the basic words. we all do have typos and momentary lapses and just plain mistakes. its the twelve year olds who spew curse words and cant put their thoughts down that i have trouble with. what are you doing in here as there are no 12 year olds. let me hear the insults again about my age due to your ignorance and lack of knowledge im sorry. my comments were to ed h. your part of this conversation is ................. just like my comments in the reply where i mention .357 with out anything else were to some one else! you were not involved in the entire thread until you attacked me in a comment to some one else sorry forgot you were all about double standards and the do as i say not as i do rule! you really need to get your meds refilled. give it a rest. steve .

From : ed h

ill trade you for the information. ill tell you album song and year it was released if you answer the question of why you continued your attack on azwily1 in the guns on campus thread after it was pointed out to you that your assumption and the resulting inappropriate behavior which you rightfully decry in this thread was just that an assumption. but because of that theyre the easiest to deal with. and you like the easy meat dont you it is a reference to a line from a pink floyd song. i cant blame you for not catching that. how can you have any pudding if you dont eat yer meat youre talking to an old pink floyd fan. early stuff. like meddle. please for my own peace of mind where is the easy meat line in pink floyd steve .

From : steve b

ill trade you for the information. ill tell you album song and year it was released if you answer the question of why you continued your attack on azwily1 in the guns on campus thread after it was pointed out to you that your assumption and the resulting inappropriate behavior which you rightfully decry in this thread was just that an assumption. ill make you a deal. any time i have to explain my actions to you you can shoot me. steve .

From : ed h

this is not the eloquent reply i excepted from you professor steve. however im pleasantly surprised you didnt call me names that i wont allow in my house. i guess maybe you too can learn. ill trade you for the information. ill tell you album song and year it was released if you answer the question of why you continued your attack on azwily1 in the guns on campus thread after it was pointed out to you that your assumption and the resulting inappropriate behavior which you rightfully decry in this thread was just that an assumption. ill make you a deal. any time i have to explain my actions to you you can shoot me. steve .

From : Annonymous

please tell me that was 400 miles round trip and not one way. even if you live within a 200 mile radius of southern utah im uncomfortable with your possible proximity to myself. made a quick trip to southern utah this past week. 400 miles big whoop. i know roy made a trip recently. anyone else go anywhere except to work or a beer run steve .