If you could replace your Cummins 5.9 engine with another diesel...what would it be?

From : stuart

Q: this link http//www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml takes you to a ford site where all the major brands of automotive air filters are tested empirically for filtration and flow. included at the site is a chart that tells how big a filter a given engine displacement needs for a maximum rpm. i am not responsible for the content of the site so dont complain to me if it tells you something you dont want to hear. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. very interesting reading. im glad you posted the link. i didnt see the chart for sizing the filter to the engine. how many cfm filter would the typical stock 5.9l engine require thanks denny #2 the formula for four stroke engine cfm is cid x rpm x ve* / 3456 *ve = volumetric efficiency 100% efficient = 1 no engine is 100% efficient however. therefore... 360 x 5500 x 1 / 3456 = 573cfm that assumes 100% efficiency which aint gonna happen mike it would if you put a blower on it....... g thanks for the formula.. #2 .

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From : max340

there is but youd have to nuke dc from orbit or americans need to start holding congress responsible instead of re-electing them automatically like strom thurman. tell candidates and parties right up front what their platform will be and quit being voting puppets. no one knows better than you what you need not congress not the parties not anyone . . except maybe god. government cannot possibly run your life raise your kids or supply what you need as well as you can because you are there 100% of the time they arent. -- budd ive thought about ways to reform it and there is no way. the politicians are the ones who would have to make new rules and they wont do it for fear of losing their jobs. the incumbents are the ones to get the most money because they know how to manipulate the system. for them to vote for reform they would have to hang themselves and they are not going to do that. there is no answer! dddd i agree far too much money is involved in the election process. any suggestions on how to get candidates to bite the hands that feed them -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. the problem is that the only way to get elected or even nominated is money. its unbelievable the amount of money spent on campaigns now-a-days. all of that money is provided by special interest groups who expect and get something for their money. it is bribery regardless of what you want to callit. the politicians know that they have to cater to those with the money and the real needs of the country are secondary. i dont see a solution so it will only get worse. dddd what weve got for government is the result of complacency among voters. too many have thought for too long their vote doesnt count but it does. i glad to see the drives to get more voters off their butts and into the booths i just hope that political lowlifes are using them to force voters for selected candidates. -- budd im sorta curious do any of you folks that participate in the various political threads actually believe that you will sway anybodies vote it would seem to me that if one was so enthralled with their candidate that their time would be better spent supporting that candidate through phone banks leafleting and other campaign work. i just dont understand how going back and forth with the same 2 or 3 people are advancing your candidates election bid. roy i dont know what those guys are doing except taking out their frustrations. but i do know which one stirred the pot and lit the fire with his kerry kicked ass thread. it was pretty quiet until he pulled that stunt. i blame him for turning this into another pointless polictical group. 16 days until we start the election was stolen crap i cant wait - ive no problem with the threads at all i just dont see it as helping either of the two idiots. this will end in a couple of weeks anyway. with regards to who started it ya gotta figure that if ya dont have a clue about trucks babble about something else it does break up the monotony though. roy agreed. i dont think the level of discourse in here isnt much different from what were seeing on the campaign trail pretty petty. while i disagree with your choice of candidate i havent been less enthused about mine since 1976 who was that anyway oh yeah ford and thats pretty low ill tell ya...i can barely stand to listen to either of them. we have an idiot running against a moron. you put which label on which candidate. i honestly cant vote for either. politics in this country has sunk to new lows in the past several elections. all idiots!!!!!!!!!!!! dddd .

From : stuart

and btw what i said was and is correct. bush is the incumbent and any vote not for his direct opposition equates to a vote for him. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone do you ever have anything to say that isnt just trolling for an argument i told you my opinion on your views on voting based on your statement. take it or leave it. tbone wrote once again you open your mouth and nothing of value comes out. .

From : greg surratt

cant answer any of it can you red. i didnt think so. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol complete bs. the sexual orientation of cheneys daughter is public knowledge and mentioning it is far from an attack. you are really reaching now red. btw it did bring to mind the fact that during the vp debate when edwards blasted the president for trying to make this a constitutional amendment cheney didnt defend him on it. public knowledge yes. however until kerrys attack neither candidate had dragged the others family members into the fray. please define atack. kerry was the first to drag in derogatory information about a member of his opponents family. please define derogatory and then explain to us how what he said was. this speaks volumes about kerrys character as if we didnt know already. the intent of kerrys attack was to shave off support in bushs base. duh no shit. isnt that the purpose of all negative adds in general and all of the comments both candidates make about each other you are just upset because he brought out a division between bush and cheney lol. if you were familiar with the issues and debating tactics you would understand why cheney chose not to respond to edwardss remarks about the constitutional amendment. it would be a waste of value rebuttal time since nationwide polls continually show very strong about 78% support across the nation for a constitutional amendment to protect marriage and prevent liberal activist judges from legislating from the bench by making gay marriage legal. lol i dont know what debate you were watching but he has a full 30 seconds to rebutt edwards and all he did was take a few seconds to thank edwards for his kind words. iow even chenney thinks bush is an idiot on this point and has too much honor to stand up on national tv and lie for the idiot. i would really like to know where these fantasy polls are that you keep referring to. what union are you a member of t-bone most of your rants closely resemble the standard leftist labor union propaganda. lol im not a union member and really dont like them but i understand why they exist do you did you practice your stand up comedy routine yet t-bone john z kerry .

From : max340

you can say it but you would be wasting your time in here. well if my goal were to change everyones mind then yes id be wasting my time. my goal is simply to discuss it in part to make sure that *i* am thinking correctly. nothing wrong with getting some opinions from both sides ... especially since i hover between the right and the left. craig c. .

From : mac davis

you just migt have a blown intake plenuim gasket and its sucking oil from the lifter valley a pinging assocated with this can confirm its taking place matt whiting wrote bob wrote bob wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 john kunkel wrote the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. ...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. but it will get tired at least twice as fast not necessarily. matt if everything else is equal it certainly well. everything else isnt even close to equal. it is pretty well documented that most wear occurs during startup especially when the engine is cold. running at twice the rpm doesnt yield even close to twice the rate of wear. the difference in fact may be virtually negligible. cars that are run long periods at a time and not started all that often especially cold starts tend to have engines that last a lot longer. matt .

From : mike simmons

just bought an 87 dodge pickup. whenever i drive it and its hot outside after i shut it off the truck seems to get vapor lock and refuses to start again. so i popped the hood... and what seems to be happening is the choke closes all the way whenever the engine is shut off.... which makes it darn near impossible to start. my solution is to jam the choke open with a screwdriver until it starts. also im only getting 7 miles to the gallon litterally although the truck seems to run fine. im goin to rebuild the carb but how do i know if the electric choke ever functions correctly i mean how do i test *that* or is it totally screwed up and i should save time by installing a manual choke follow the instructions to the letter on the q-jet rebuild but if your mileage stays that bad after everything is fixed then someone has played around with the air door settings. this is a good carb really but many have been given un-needed adjustments. the electric choke is regulated by a resistor on the manifold and there should be 12 volts available to the choke when cold. if you have the voltage available then the problem is in the choke thermostat. i replaced the one on my 79 with a regular thermostat from about 1968 - 1972 model years. however if you have to have all emissions equipment installed this may not be an option. the trucks an 87 dodge ram 360 engine. the qjets numbers are 17085431 / 1746. from what im reading that may not be the carb that came with the truck. im not a newbie but havent worked on my own cars for about twenty years and the carb thing is a new one for me. relax. its not rocket science just follow the instructions. if you suspect its not the right carb then i suggest you replace it. trying to sort out carb troubles for someone just learning will only add to your frustration. any advice greatly appreciated... and if youre in oregon it might be worth some beer. utah but i dont drink. hoist a cold pepsi for me instead. bg budd .

From : max340

john z kerry wrote as do i but if you even mention anything that is not far right you will probably be labeled as a commie bastard. feeling sorry for yourself today bonehead errrrr t-bone could be wrong but i dont believe ive ever heard anyone call him a commie. jerry .

From : max340

91/4 rear end looking to replace bearings any info 98 1500 4x4 5.9l for the axle bearings you need a slide hammer to remove the old bearings. a bearing installer is preferred to put the new ones in but a socket will work. it helps to have a caliper with a depth gauge on it because you want to seat the bearings .600 in from the end of the axle tube. of course to do this necessitates pulling the axles which requires opening up the differential and removing the c-clips. the axle seals will have to come out and new seals installed after the bearings are replaced. if you mean the main bearings or the pinion bearings in the differential then my advice would be to take it to a shop - this is one of those jobs that if you have to ask how to do it you mostly likely cant do it yourself. .

From : max340

-- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i sure dont understand it. with the condition of most city streets because whatever reason id be afraid of busting rims because theres no room for the sidewall to absorb a pothole impact. that is one nice thing about dallas we have great roads here. of course they are all toll roads .... gasp shudder i dont like toll roads. ah you have to watch out for old ranger walker . . . .well the film crews anyway. ive never been to big d big im not one for big cities anyway .. .too much redneck blood in these veins i guess. vbg when i worked for perot they use to film the street scenes for that show outside of our offices. its comical to see a dodge truck with a camera mounted on the hood blocking all view from the inside being pulled by a cable. incidentally it was a ford powerstroke pulling it ... ; to be honest i just simply didnt like him. tried skiing once . . . then i found out no one makes training wheels for skis. youre right ... but most people catch on pretty quick ... usually before they suffer any broken bones. ; i learned it wasnt my sport . . . . from what i remember of those same presidents i think they spent monies we did not have to begin with on programs for special interest groups. yes some of that happened. sorry craig but go back to the analogy. if any money is spent that we dont really have then it increases our bankruptcy . . . our national debt. i agree ... and i do not think that any president has ever made 100% correct decisions on *anything*. however where we disagree here ... and we will have to leave at that ... is that clinton stopped the deficit spending and *began* to pull us out of debt. baby bush has made no such effort. imho it can be set aside and discussed later only by agreeing on a topic completely can it be left at that. if we just went back on the silver standard which means ever penny of money in circulation has to be redeemable for a equivalent value of silver hundreds of social programs would have to end social security would be instantly broke government sponsored programs and schools would have to close and wages would go back to about seventy five cents an hour for average labor and skilled labor back to $2 / hr. i dont know much about this thats why i made no comment in the prior post. unlike many in this ng i dont attack someones view if i know nothing about it. essentially it means you could walk into a fed reserve bamnk with cash and request it be converted to silver . . .or whatever standard is selected. inflation is self limiting and purchasing power is restored. you seem to know much about the past and that seems to drive your views now. miles seems to be very locked into the present. and i tend to be long term ... at times too long term ... in my thinking. the 3 of our minds put together would make a perfect president ... or perhaps the perfect nut case ; imho the three of us demonstrate why we do need to get away from party line elections and platforms. they prevent the voter from getting the best person for the job and force politicians and lawyers upon us instead. environmental science is mostly a theoretical field little empirical testing iirc. it is one of the younger fields of science. but make no mistake ... the research involved is quite intense. i fact the number of experiments and research projects required drive most would be graduates away from the field. unfortunately forcing experiments that normally require several years or centuries to culminate and not setting up control batches skews the results from the natural process. then the results are questionable and should not be considered as accurate. yet it happens all the time. conservative scientists for example have proposed that the hole in the ozone layer at the south pole has been there for centuries . . .because a source of energy is required to make ozone molecules the sun and down there it doesnt hit the atmosphere as directl as it does farther north. lol no but ability to hold on to a tree with the grip of a log chain might be a qualification. bg perhaps. as i mentioned i dont know the qualifications to become an executive of the epa. to your point the epa by its very nature tends to attract folks that are concerned about the land. you call them tree huggers i call them conservationists. my reasoning for calling them tree huggers that they are the types that as ive mentioned run around in clothes based on oil brandishing signage made from trees and pass gas from their tofu and pollute the atmosphere demanding all insert a chosen agenda be stopped 20 years earlier than it started not realizing they themselves are putting millions to death. some of my medications are oil or pla

From : wayne sikorski

by outside the law i dont mean against the law. this administration has mastered the black arts of a. deceiving without lying and b. defying the spirit of legislation without violating the letter of the law proof that will come on november 2. you are evading the question typical liberal tactics. your reply has no substance much less specific examples. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses the facts i have stated could easily be corroborated by you if you had any intellectual curiosity at all. but i dont care what you think - you can spit them out choke on them or swallow them - as you please. facts lol! any liberal i know runs from facts. judging from the misinformation you post here you wouldnt know a fact if it bit you on the ass. .

From : max340

kurt i have an 04 ho 3500 dually. it has 1200 miles on the clock. the first week i saw 15. i see 16.2 now. i have a 4.10 axle. i have seen 17.5 by being very careful. i expect 18 to 21 when broken in a bit. i have also purchased the banks kit but not yet installed it. i suspect an increase in mileage there as well. steve anybody yet found out the miles per gallon for the new 2004 ho cummins i am disapointed only getting 16 miles per gal. and i am an easy driver not hot roding or having a lead foot. the 1995 i traded in was getting a constant 22 miles per gl. and it had the banks super stinger installed. no wise cracks please if you can not be decent do not bother. emil .

From : kurt

on fri 15 oct 2004 200957 -0400 johnnyg abiigdog@hotmail.com wrote my drink holder latch is broken as well i got the two pieces of the drink holder apart just held by little plastic tabs but i cant figure out how the latch goes back together. wonder if there is an exploded view of that drink holder somewhere anyone know where something like that would be jg my goodness a broken cup holder. time to trade for a ford or gm.; .

From : max340

i think you meant this http//www.iei.net/usa1/www/reaction.html ken yup guess they changed the addy. .

From : max340

is there a specific power steering fluid for a 98 dodge dakota i dont know jack about power steering fluid cause ive never needed it but i discovered this afternoon that my truck had none and is producing an incredibly annoying whine and i cant find my owners manual. any help appreciated kevin .

From : greg surratt

mopaman wrote tonight i reprogrammed the truck for the improved performance for 87 octane changed the speed limit to 140 mph careful dewd- they dont test nopars for anything over 75. -- yrs. ike thats usually when the fords start smokin the hemi is just getting a little above 2000 rpms. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .

From : max340

mopaman scott.hendryx.clothes@sbcglobal.net tue 12 oct 2004 234315 gmt the truck ran great and the new shift points and the improved rev limits were a welcome change from the weird shifting pattern this truck has with the stock program. i actually had to push down on the accelerator some to get the thing to kick into passing gear instead of just barely touching the pedal before i made the change. i was impressed. wait wait wait... you got a sooperpowerrrrful hemi.. in an automatic format -- bryan s. slick yep i am handicapped and donut have the use of my left hip. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .

From : theguy

105 mm recoilless rifle . . . . . -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. on wed 13 oct 2004 000734 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote it was one of these deals where i walked into a conversation at the shop where the subject was how tough a bowling ball is. without thinking ole alligator mouth/hummingbird ass chirps up how his model 500 would drill a half inch hole clean thru it or pop it like a ripe watermelon. this debate went on most of a slow friday afternoon. monday morning the bowling ball mouth was asked where the ball is he didnt bring it in. ole am/ha declared the 500 the winner by default. at approx 930 a bowling ball comes rolling thru by bay along with various put up/shut up chants. at noon out in a 10 ft drainage ditch in the back field from about 25 yds the ole bowling ball laughed at this puny little runt of a pistol. tomorrow im taking three guys out for lunch. i need a bigger gun.......... denny not fair... too many different compositions used in bowling balls rubber plastic urethane etc. you should ave had a choice of ammo... steel jacket dum-dum armor piercing etc. .

From : john kunkel

yea yea yea we will see come election day. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yup latest polls show new joiiiiiiiiizey is now a toss up! bush has closed kerrys lead. better yet bush has closed kerrys lead on the entire left coast to single digits. those 55 electoral votes in california are going to be bushs soon. latest electoral vote count is bush-291 kerry-228 270 electoral votes are required for a win. www.electoral-vote.com john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : stuart

tbone wrote because your comparrison was apples to oranges and you know it. you cant spin out of something that is still in print stupid .....i didnt make a comparison you did. nice try pinhead. you compared your truck to a lightning for a reaction to a boost increase and like you said you cant spin out of something that is still in print electronically. but even forgetting the stupid diesel to gas burner comparrision you are also comparing the programming of a super truck th that of a work truck whic is even more retarded. wow ....... trying to spin again again by making another dumb comparison then say i did it. you dont even have the balls to stick to your own blabbering. you were the one who claimed that the lightning would react poorly to a boost increase and when asked how used your truck and its reaction as an example. that seems like a comparison to me and a bad one at that. put the two of them together and you have a budd. a level you still havent achieved. only in that bitter tiny little mind of yours jerry. i must say i can see why budd likes you so much you two are so much alike. i guess that depends on what is considered as over boost and intent of the vehicle doesnt it pinhead. sure does and you havent a clue what that is do you stupid. every time you open your mouth you prove you are one dumb ass. dont you ever get tired of looking stupid to the world.......... pkb -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : demon

wjvfd.3032$km.1262@read3..pas.earthlink.net jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote tbone wrote i forgive you budd. now lets see if you really mean it. geez ................ even this thread he attempts to turn it into a pissing match. unbelievable.............. jerry should be tboner apologizing not budd dale .

From : demon

oh denny i apologize for teasing you and your pink bunny suit dale simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote i see i should have been more specific. my apologies are specifically offered to jerry beekeeper and theguy . again i apologize gentlemen. what!! you mean i dont get an apology well..... haruuumph! ;^ mike i also offer my apologies to lurkers ive offended. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. in the past i have said things to some of you that have strained if not alienated any friendship we had or could have had. for these terrible words i am sorry. i offer no excuses for i do not know why i said those things. it could have been the onset of some of the more recent health problems . . . i dont know. it could have been problems with my medications . . i dont know and i do not offer these as excuses. i do not even expect any reply to this post and i seek none. i dont ask any of you to accept my friendship as i know i may have destroyed any chance of it and it will truly be my loss. i only offer my sincerest apologies. thank you all. -- budd .

From : john kunkel

i see i should have been more specific. my apologies are specifically offered to jerry beekeeper and theguy . again i apologize gentlemen. i also offer my apologies to lurkers ive offended. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. in the past i have said things to some of you that have strained if not alienated any friendship we had or could have had. for these terrible words i am sorry. i offer no excuses for i do not know why i said those things. it could have been the onset of some of the more recent health problems . . . i dont know. it could have been problems with my medications . . i dont know and i do not offer these as excuses. i do not even expect any reply to this post and i seek none. i dont askany of you to accept my friendship as i know i may have destroyed any chance of it and it will truly be my loss. i only offer my sincerest apologies. thank you all. -- budd .

From : demon

the tsp is mounted on the side ot the fuel injection pump. my guess is that one would only be available from chrysler corp. it is not hard to replace. question where is it located on my engine is it hard to replace or should i take it in again and how much is a sensor and where can i purchase a discounted one thanks in advance for any help i can get! .

From : stuart

http//www.iconoclast-texas.com/columns/editorial/editorial39.htm .

From : stuart

so called conservative republicans are neither conservative or republican in their thinking. the are on the extreme right of the political spectrum. they see compromise as a dirty word and will not tolerate a difference of opinion. they live in a black and white world and make things difficult for the rest of us that live somewhere in the gray area of moderation. its the people on the extream left and the extream right that make the rest of us suffer. jam does anybody know what he is talking about yea hes pointing out a simple fact so simple that it will escape your grasp. .

From : greg surratt

j. a. m. wrote nothing but meaningless wise cracks. is this the best you can do and this means something because ill clue you in on something. its not a contest here to see who can do the best. ah cmon just tell him youre a victim of outcome based education. .

From : max340

sorry i should have said four banger detroits...not cats. which makes a bit more sense given that they are likely supercharged two cycle engines. id still like to see a model number. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : max340

that is frustrating as hell.. i hope somebody hears water dripping all night!! cmon rabbit you should be in the 4s in no time.g roy denny i think you meant this http//www.iei.net/usa1/www/reaction.html ken heres something to play with. www.iei.net/usa1/reaction .

From : stuart

heres something to play with. www.iei.net/usa1/reaction ooops it isnt working. sorry roy .

From : nosey

heres something to play with. www.iei.net/usa1/reaction .

From : stuart

here is a classic example of the liberal myth. that all or even most businesses are corrupt and greedy. if liberals had their way then corporations would be reduced to miniscule profits and the incentive to achieve and grow would be minimized. there is some truth to the greed and corruption issue but what liberals want has great negative impact on far more than just the few corrupt corporations. very simply put liberals are all for having an intrusive big all-knowing all-protective bureaucratic federal government control all facets of our lives. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : greg surratt

mopaman scott.hendryx.clothes@sbcglobal.net tue 12 oct 2004 234315 gmt the truck ran great and the new shift points and the improved rev limits were a welcome change from the weird shifting pattern this truck has with the stock program. i actually had to push down on the accelerator some to get the thing to kick into passing gear instead of just barely touching the pedal before i made the change. i was impressed. wait wait wait... you got a sooperpowerrrrful hemi.. in an automatic format -- bryan s. slick usenet at slick-family dot net to those who serve america in any fashion freedom has a flavor those who just sit by will never know. .

From : max340

http//www.richardreeves.com/columns/latest.html john z kerry wrote a conspiracy theory reeves doesnt make one-tenth the money that rush limbaugh does. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .

From : stuart

well john then youre bigoted toward me. im a fundamental christian conservative living in a mobile home. i had thought you to be better than that. as far as your religion and conservatism all i can say is you have my sympathy. as to your abode obviously you have a problem with colloquial english. think about this the taj mahal exists only in india and most okies have never set foot in oklahoma. im sorry you feel that way but think on this; is there anything in your own past lifestyle or family tree that could be or has been used to degrade you your family or your ethnic group for what really is a very stupid reason sure im fat ugly and have a miniscule penis but wouldnt degrading me be in conflict with your fundamentalist christian beliefs or are you one of those christians who claims to live by the teachings of the bible but ignore them when they become inconvenient from my personal observations that seems to be the norm. then you can imagine how you just made everyone in mobile homes that attend church feel. once again colloquialisms seem to escape you. not all who attend church are bible thumpers and not all who live in mobile homes are trailer trash. for your edification a bible thumper is someone who tries in a forceful or enthusiastic way to persuade other people to believe in the christian religion and the bible or who continually quotes the bible as though lacking the ability to form an original thought. trailer trash is a derogatory term used to describe lower-class whites regardless of where they actually live. .

From : denny

yes but it takes a specific amount of fuel/energy to over come frictional forces/losses working inside the motor. those frictional forces are less in a smaller motor. to a point. in return for a smaller engine you may have to turn more rpm due to different gearing to accomodate the same load capacity. what this comes down to again is that some one this time its you has decided that secondguessing the engineers on the project design of the dodge ram and selection of the cummins because you think you can do better. great. when youve finished your several years of r&d i may actually find merit to your claims. if you take two engines that produce the same amount of torque/hp at a given rpm where you might typically cruise at say 1600 yet one is 3.8 liters and the other is 5.9....the 3.8 will afford you better economy hands down. do you disagree yes i disagree. you have totally cast aside factors of vibration the four will vibrate more and individual part strength con rods in the four would have to be larger than those in the six to accomodate the same load factors over the same durability rating. add in the fact that a six fires 3 times per revolution rather than two which counters the parasitic loss inherent in changing direction of a moving mass such as a piston. ill state this as plainly as i can since we all know its been stated numerous times before the inline six cylinder engine configuration is the most efficient design that uses a reciprocating piston and internal combustion. again quite plainly if your ideas held practical application rather than theory why is it that 95% a guess but its close of otr trucks use an inline six cylinder instead of a four the savings might be marginal but savings are to be had. you dont get something for nothing. pretty soon you might have a truck getting 25mpg or better. i suggest that i could have that this afternoon if my foot werent so heavy. would be dreamy to get 30mpg out of a full size truck no yes. dreamy. your dreamy. perhaps youd have better luck by putting a superbird style nose cone on your truck. with that deutz you could cruise the screw @ 1400rpm too. hardly. with the present gearing you would have to turn the same rpm as the cummins. lots of hassle but were dreaming here right no you are dreaming here. the rest of us with the cummins engine like it. diesel four bangers are found in numberous automobiles. why would the less than perfect balance affect me to the point of being turned off...i love diesels. they may have balance shafts in their design as did many gasoline fours. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : nosey

i love the kumho venture a/t 825s; we have sold 100s of them and they last well ride is excellent and traction is awesum. sells for under $100.00 unstalled quiet -- the uniroyal awt is another great tire open tread and a great quality tire. should sell for around $100 installed --- the cooper discover a/t is the worst tire we have ever experienced. our competition sells them and gets us alot of customers. ---- the winston winner kelly lt is a great economical tire. ride is good and wear rating is good. traction experience is great! ---- .

From : theguy

stuart wrote what you fail to see is this diesel engines will burn only the amount of fuel needed to get the job done. you wont be as efficient as you think once the engine is installed in the same truck as the cummins is. yes but it takes a specific amount of fuel/energy to over come frictional forces/losses working inside the motor. those frictional forces are less in a smaller motor. if you take two engines that produce the same amount of torque/hp at a given rpm where you might typically cruise at say 1600 yet one is 3.8 liters and the other is 5.9....the 3.8 will afford you better economy hands down. do you disagree does this diesel have the same flat power curve as the cummins six i suspect a 3.8 liter four cylinder could produce the same amount of power at a specific rpm but the torque and hp curve would have a more dramatic peak at that rating. a diesel with a pronounced power peak would be fine for use as a marine engine or a generator but not very practical in a real world truck. boats and generators dont need to make much power above or below the target operating rpm. they dont have to deal with traffic towing loads up hills. .

From : john kunkel

on tue 12 oct 2004 170848 gmt john kunkel kunkel.j@shorts.comcast.net wrote remove shorts to reply nope you said a cat; kinda ambiguous since a 3406 would be a tight squeeze in a pickup. so would a c series cummins but thats been done. if i happen to prefer an inefficient 635 c.i. v8 with 400+ hp and physical dimensions favorable to swapping thats just me. i routinely swap out efficient slant sixes in favor of gas guzzling inefficient 440s. which makes sense in the gasoline burning world. it lacks sense in the diesel world. so says you. according to your logic a 4-cylinder perkins could pull a class 8 truck over the rockies so thats the way to go. watch this then http//www.becontrols.com/renault5.wmv .

From : max340

on mon 11 oct 2004 185421 gmt john kunkel kunkel.j@shorts.comcast.net wrote carrying picket signs outside any abortion clinic. i wouldnt want to interrupt them.... so many garys ..so.. clyde .

From : denny

im trying to figure who exactly would have to die before kerry would figure terrorists are no longer a nuisance . . . his wife or his dog -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. craig christian wrote very few companies get away with the kind of price goudging that oil companies do. they get away with it because of the $$ they contribute to the law makers and probably to judges as well. all in my opinion of course. ahh you want more government regulation rather than supply/demand economics for the oil industry in the usa. common misconception that it will help anything. even hinting that bush has a better environmental stand is absolutlely rediculous and his record proves it. if you cant admit that then you are very blinded by the right wing. the public does drive policy in this area ... by electing a leader that will push it! define better bush is more realistic meaning facing reality when it comes to energy/enviromental trade off issues. now how will kerry push it give billions to private industry to fund alternative fuel research wheres that money going to come from if the money wont come from the publics own demand for it then its gotta come from us tax payers and that is not being realistic. kerry talks and the left bites without facing the realities of it. ill be cancelling your vote on 11/2 and i will have a clear conscience that i have made the best decision for myself and my country. will your conscience be clear when you vote for someone that is going to continue kicking ass as he sees fit and alienating us from the world the time for the decades old policy of waiting for disaster and tragedy to hit our shores and then and only then go after someone in a policing action is over. the left wont face the reality of just what terrorism is all about. kerry last week made the statement to the effect that its time to get back to where terrorism was just a nusance similar to prostitution and illegal gambling. this statement of his scares the heck out of me. it is clear that kerry just doesnt understand the dangers of the policies of decades gone by where we treated terrorism as just a nusance to deal with. that time is now over and my conscience will be clear by voting for someone that wont put us back to the days of treating terrorism as simply a nusance like prositution and illegal gambling. what a stupid statement kerry made. as for alienating us from the world what part of the world do you refer russia perhaps they learned recently the hard way. they subscribed to your methods of gaining global support. they got other countries to sign on with them but with one serious condition. resistance fighters cant be labled as terrorists. then russia lost 100s of kids to resistance fighters. now russia will do an about face on the global support issue and will fight any way they have to. that is facing the reality of it all something the left here just hasnt learned yet. someone that will be no closer to a solution on alternative energy or the war on terror in 4 more years frankly i hope he puts a pipeline in your state .. well see how much you like him after that. we have a pipeline in our state. it ruptured a few months ago. we need a new one built asap. so your point is libya has changed for the better afghanistan now has people voting for the first time in history iraq will vote later this year. it might not be perfect but it is closer to a solution. if kerry had his way saddam would still be in power and have control over kuwait kerry voted against the gulf war. we would not have the b2 bomber or much of any new military hardware kerry voted against almost all of it. no way would i call that closer to a solution. .

From : max340

on 10 oct 2004 101910 -0700 montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote finally ive found marks in my bed left from a slide in 5th wheel hitch with matching bolt-holes. this concerns me a little since its got such a tall gear 3.54 with the automatic. since i figure an auto-rebuild is imminent sooner or later i want to start gathering information on how to beef up the 47re so that when i chip the cummins it wont kill the tranny. thanks ive got the 98.5 with cummins/auto/3.55 gears and pull a 12000 lb trailer with no problems whatsoever. i have the tranny serviced every 60k miles as required and they havent found any parts in the bottom of the pan yet. ;- so wants a new trailer that goes 16000 lbs. loaded. i told either i get a new truck or we dump a bunch of money into this one for bd tranny parts and computer enhancements. greg .

From : max340

on second thought hands down my vote would be for a deutz bf4m2013c displacing 3.8 liters and producing 168hp and 457 pounds of torque. it would be until you felt it shake the truck. another inline six advantage is the inherent balance. the hp rating of this deutz is for an rpm of 2500 where as the cummins 5.9 12v might be a little higher. not to mention i dont have an excuse to rev past 2500 rpm. again the knowledge of how a diesel makes power is lacking. while it might be peaked on the hp side its torque you should be looking for. could you imagine the economical benefits of having less displacement what you fail to see is this diesel engines will burn only the amount of fuel needed to get the job done. you wont be as efficient as you think once the engine is installed in the same truck as the cummins is. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .

From : stuart

it is easy to think that any company that is in business to make money is greedy. you demand it they supply it. very few companies get away with the kind of price goudging that oil companies do. they get away with it because of the $$ they contribute to the law makers and probably to judges as well. all in my opinion of course. idealistic ... yes but it is possible and neccessary that we move forward faster than we are. which candidiate is going to see to it i think you know who ... neither will. in the short term we need oil and need to cut foreign dependency. the left will not allow that to happen. in the long term we need alternatives. the president can do very little but offer cheap talk. the public has to drive it. companies are not going to invest billions into new technology unless the public will accept it and buy it. so far the publics demand for it is weak. demand for hybrids electrics etc. are not very strong. it will take alot more time to get the efficiency and cost down. until then we need oil and not from the middle east. which canidate recognizes that i think you know who... ; discussing these topics has been a success. i am more convinced than i was before who the best candidate is of the two choices for the job. even hinting that bush has a better environmental stand is absolutlely rediculous and his record proves it. if you cant admit that then you are very blinded by the right wing. the public does drive policy in this area ... by electing a leader that will push it! ill be cancelling your vote on 11/2 and i will have a clear conscience that i have made the best decision for myself and my country. will your conscience be clear when you vote for someone that is going to continue kicking ass as he sees fit and alienating us from the world someone that will be no closer to a solution on alternative energy or the war on terror in 4 more years frankly i hope he puts a pipeline in your state .. well see how much you like him after that. craig c. .

From : john kunkel

during the 2000 elections many democrats were going around in vans and busses collecting and hauling in potential democratic voters to the polls. i decided to haul in some republicans so i fueled up my suburban and started out .. but .. i couldnt think of anywhere to go. if i had been going for democrats it would have been easy. the flop houses soup lines unemployment offices welfare offices the slums and neighborhoods. there are a lot of democrats there thatll vote for a pack of cigarettes. but i never did think of anywhere to go to collect a load of potential republican voters. any ideas for 2004 carrying picket signs outside any abortion clinic. .

From : stuart

yes roy i have a question about removing the front bumper on a 99 dodge ram 1500 that is posted just a few posts below this one. and for john kerry calling me a fucking nazi im jewish and lost several family members over in the concentration camps so your remark was definitely unappreciated but i realized this is the internet and idiots are in abundance. anyone that can offer an opinion about removing the front bumper concerning my post below would be greatly appreciated. thanks how long have you been on usenet usenet is a rough place. get used to it if you want to stay on usenet. as for your bumper start a new thread and ask your question and maybe the kerry fanatics wont disrupt the thread. alternately go to a dodge blog board or chat room. yet another option if you want to stay here is to use your kill file as a filter to avoid people and crap you dont want to see much less read. dave .

From : stuart

im not high on four valves but deutz makes the best of it. which shows exactly the amount of experience you have in engine design. four valves per cylinder does the following 1. allows for more intake cross-sectional area for higher flow and better use of valve open duration. 2. allows for use of smaller valves which cool faster thus lowering wear on seat and face. 3. allows for the use of a smaller bore while getting the larger cross sectional area. 4. cuts down on valve shrouding effect. max all of your arguments are self evident and in many practical applications proved wonderful but my arguement would be how was the 24-valve design an improvement over the 12-valve design of my current engine where my desires/wants are met of course most will come back with a number of responses of great merit. i would eventually concede that those horsepower/torque loving individuals would be happier with the better breathing design of the 24-v. then to save face time and money i will state for the record i do not need more horsepower/torque than what my 12-valve supplies. with diesel $2.00 a gallon i want economy. my truck gets 23mpg. i would hope that this feat could be surpassed with a deutz or other design. from what ive read and heard the 24v doesnt approach this economy. maybe i should have begun the thread with the heading what motor would you replace your cummins 5.9 with to improve economy while not loosing any performance that would be a great thread no funny how many manufactures make four cylinder engines producing mucho torque 500 foot pounds with much less displacement than the cummins. deutz makes a one that produces i think 180hp and 540 ft.lbs. with a fuel consumption rate of 198 g/kwh! displacement is like 3.8 liters!!! hmmm...that raises my eyebrows. wish i could experience first hand what it would feel like behind the steering wheel of a dodge half ton with that motor...wouldnt you stuart stuart .

From : stuart

on 10 oct 2004 101910 -0700 montanajeeper@aol.com montanajeeper wrote thanks for the tips so far. i still havent figured out that damned squeeking noise but ill get it. couple more questions - wheres the best place to mount a standard chassis cb radio - if using a magnetic mount antenna whats the best way to route the cable - whats the preferred oil filter im using rotella - whats the preferred oil change interval i know 10 different people 10 different answers - is the oil capacity on my 01 the same as my 04.5 finally ive found marks in my bed left from a slide in 5th wheel hitch with matching bolt-holes. this concerns me a little since its got such a tall gear 3.54 with the automatic. since i figure an auto-rebuild is imminent sooner or later i want to start gathering information on how to beef up the 47re so that when i chip the cummins it wont kill the tranny. thanks i wouldnt worry about the gear ratio nate... there ate so many ram/cummins out there pulling 5th wheels and most seem to be the 3.55 gears... id say the truck was built to tow and it does it for years and years as set up.. .

From : max340

are ya sure that it came from the gas station. did you piss anybody off. if i were you i would move quickly on this before they change their pump filters of your gonna have a hell of a time proving it was them. 1-locking caps. 2-checked with the owner today and hes paying for everything. 3-it pays to know the people that you buy from.... turns out i am one of about 50 that have complained in the last week and he found 4 units out in front that didnt have the right filters on them...so its cool...and i was thinking along your lines..hurry the hell up or you eat the bill... we agreed that he would just pay the old mans shop for the parts and labor and wholesale on the parts...so hes getting out easy. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote got a check engine light last night. pulled code with a drb and had a p0302....misfire on cylinder #2. checked cap rotor wire and plug....everythings fine... hummm...at 17000 miles kinda odd...but not out of the realm of possibilities.. so...fire it backup and sure enough..comes back with a 302and a 303.... check a few more items and finally find the problem...fuel pressures dropped considerably...got to love bad gas....lol...dropped the tank and i think the local bp station and i are gonna have a nice long talk about sand.... -- new sig file stolen from alt.autos.corvettes shut up dave. .

From : john kunkel

it was said by the dumocrats that edwards looked and performed like the dashingly young and handsome lawyer he is. we agree and cheney looked and acted every bit the part of the judge. careful with the word we cheney acted and looked like the weasel he is. .

From : john kunkel

john theres a little problem with your phrase bible thumping trailer trash ....it makes you a bigot and thats totally against the publicly divulged liberal platform. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. i am not a kerry supporter i am anti-bush. put another way you are one confused little puppy. perhaps you could do a write-in vote for perot pretty much what id expect from one who worships at the altar of bush. unlike you and the rest of bushs bible thumping trailer trash voter base i realize that the political system has presented two losers who couldnt lead a boy scout with diarrhea to a port-a-potty. .

From : netnews

montanajeeper wrote thanks for the tips so far. i still havent figured out that damned squeeking noise but ill get it. couple more questions - wheres the best place to mount a standard chassis cb radio - if using a magnetic mount antenna whats the best way to route the cable - whats the preferred oil filter im using rotella - whats the preferred oil change interval i know 10 different people 10 different answers - is the oil capacity on my 01 the same as my 04.5 finally ive found marks in my bed left from a slide in 5th wheel hitch with matching bolt-holes. this concerns me a little since its got such a tall gear 3.54 with the automatic. since i figure an auto-rebuild is imminent sooner or later i want to start gathering information on how to beef up the 47re so that when i chip the cummins it wont kill the tranny. thanks if you find the squeeking noise let us know. my 01 ram is doing the same thing. 5 star dealer couldnt find it. bob .

From : montanajeeper

thanks for the tips so far. i still havent figured out that damned squeeking noise but ill get it. couple more questions - wheres the best place to mount a standard chassis cb radio - if using a magnetic mount antenna whats the best way to route the cable - whats the preferred oil filter im using rotella - whats the preferred oil change interval i know 10 different people 10 different answers - is the oil capacity on my 01 the same as my 04.5 finally ive found marks in my bed left from a slide in 5th wheel hitch with matching bolt-holes. this concerns me a little since its got such a tall gear 3.54 with the automatic. since i figure an auto-rebuild is imminent sooner or later i want to start gathering information on how to beef up the 47re so that when i chip the cummins it wont kill the tranny. thanks .

From : max340

on sun 10 oct 2004 153443 gmt jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote clyde wrote no. i was complaining about the fact that roy obviously read this too and failed to come forward with the fact that the timber purchase was made 2 years later and factcheck was admitting to a mistake. i was complaining that roy is distorting the facts. i was merely doing what the 2 idiots have been doing. boy talk about blind loyalty. roy .

From : hattmakr

during the 2000 elections many democrats were going around in vans and busses collecting and hauling in potential democratic voters to the polls. i decided to haul in some republicans so i fueled up my suburban and started out .. but .. i couldnt think of anywhere to go. if i had been going for democrats it would have been easy. the flop houses soup lines unemployment offices welfare offices the slums and neighborhoods. there are a lot of democrats there thatll vote for a pack of cigarettes. but i never did think of anywhere to go to collect a load of potential republican voters. any ideas for 2004 yup go to your nearest rest area most are having their meal of tube steak. bfg roy .

From : redneck tookover hell

tbone wrote you made the point now back it up. no dip shit you did and now you are running..... who was the one that said all you would get is smoke why it was you now either back it up or shut up. it was just another example moron. no it was more attempted bs spin........... iow you are once again wrong and not man enought to admit to it. i guess that you would have to be a man first though so you do have an excuse. gee jerry you really are dumber than dirt. according to you everyone on here is. but that is according to you and you should know by now that no one cares what you think. if you dont realize that by now then dumber than dirt is a good tag for you. lol if you dont care then why are you here caught in your own spin again i love it. i said and ill repeat it again for you if an expensive and time consuming exhaust system change will net a 15hp gain no thats not the way you said it ............ try again tommy troll. yea it is with out the expensive part that is exactly what i said. care to try again. then a simple pully or waste gate change that can in some cases give 40+ hp increases by itself without the exhaust mod this is just a comparrison pinhead would be considered massive. bull shit ............... cite information that proves that. ok changing the pully size in the lightning gives 131+hp depending on the size selected. http//www.rpmoutlet.com/lightaspm.htm notice that they are not requiring any other mods to get here. so much for your fuel and timing concerns you dumb phuck. you really are grasping now and your continued spin attempts continue to show just how dumb you really are. keep going though because the laughs are refreshing. funny i was thinking the same about you. be careful now .............. thinking seems to be a strain on your one cell thinking. which is still twice what you seem to have. i was talking about you not her. but being a conservative i could see with your natural paranoia why you would assume otherwise. back peddling huh ................. little late now asshole as it is already in print but dont worry no one expected less of you. no back peddeling needed. this is you just trying to save face again. really and you have proof of this where are you really that stupid.......... of course you are. typical spin when you cant answer the question. what exactly do you think the computer would do in your overboost situation tell you what it does on my truck sets a code from the ecm and starts defueling. you really are one stupid shit. hahahahahaha hehehehehehehe hohohohohohoho oh stop dumbass your killing me. you are actually trying to compare the combustion process and computer controls of a turbo diesel to that of a gas burner what a complete moron. perhaps you should go to the turbo diesel site and read up a little on how your engine actually runs before making a complete ass out of yourself. lol wrong. i said that if you crank the boost beyond the headroom that the computer or fuel system has you would need to make corrections or modifications. you never said any such thing and you know it. yes i did you were just too stuipid to understand it. once again jerry the waste gate was just a comparison in modification types except you made the stupid claim that a simple boost pressure adjustment with the waste gate would give massive gains ......... wrong as usual. no it wasnt. ive never claimed to know much about turbo chargers and you dont seem to know shit about diesels either if you are trying to compare the combustion process to that of a gas burner. you can go ahead and have the thread tommy troll since you stooped to the maggot position of bringing family members into this. you as usual didnt have a leg to stand on with your normal bull shit so you fell back on your ace card of being the scum ball you really are. ill trade spit balls with you all day long between the two of us but your tactics of throwing out scum ball remarks involving family members are taboo in my book. you can try to spin out of that one anyway you wish but youll fool no none but yourself. youre nothing little man and little man is exactly what you are. yea yea yea feel free to justify your turning tail and running away when you know that you are full of shit. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : john kunkel

just bought an 87 dodge pickup. whenever i drive it and its hot outside after i shut it off the truck seems to get vapor lock and refuses to start again. so i popped the hood... and what seems to be happening is the choke closes all the way whenever the engine is shut off.... which makes it darn near impossible to start. my solution is to jam the choke open with a screwdriver until it starts. also im only getting 7 miles to the gallon litterally although the truck seems to run fine. its not unusual for a choke to close some after shutdown tightly closed doesnt sound right but i would still expect the engine to start. there is a vacuum pot that is supposed to pull the choke open after start. q-jets are notorious for leaking fuel from plugs in the bottom of the fuel bowl the fuel runs into the manifold after shutdown and floods the engine this could be the source of the hot start problem and the lousy mileage. the plugs are located in the bottom of the main body above the baseplate. the accepted procedure is to seal the plugs with a coat of epoxy. .

From : mike simmons

bond market rofl. interest rates plummeted in the 90s. you do know that interest rates are tied to long term bonds dont you as a matter if fact i do. do you have any idea what clinton did with the bond market i didnt think so. you state that i need to look up information ... perhaps taking a bit of your own advice would help here. still invest in high-tech stocks ... the same ones i invested in int he 90s. great whats your point the point i was trying to make is that i still invest and so does everyone else yet we see declines up until recently in our investments. can you explain that where are the investment dollars going my spending habits havent changed and i think that is probably the case with most americans that still have jobs. one problem is that there is a major trade deficit last i looked. we are not exporting like we use to. the bush administration is plummeting the country into record debt. thats what bottoms out the economy. who suffers when the government cant pay its bills yep you got it american companies. when they dont get paid they have less money to invest in r&d and personnel causing a chain reaction all the way down to the middle class. its a bi-product of trickle down economics. we have reagan to thank for that. that doesnt change the fact that in the 90s the market was fueled heavily by trillions invested in high risk stocks that failed. many companies were heavily invested in and never produced a product. true but a lot did produce and continue to produce. thats what the stock market is. so what is your point people saw gold and were suckered in. you or your broker werent one of those...great but doesnt change what happened. to not realize just where the money came from is economic ignorance. i know where it came from. it is still coming from those places. market correction is the nature of the beast. republican economics do not help a failing economy. take your own finances as an example ... when business is slow and you arent making as much do you get all of your credit cards and have a spending spree hell no. that simply makes it worse. fiscal responsibility is the only way to insure a healthy *lasting* economy. bush has not been fiscally responsible. you talk about my supposed lefty way of thinking ... bush is a spending mo-fo. we cannot prosper under his plan. i dont remember who said it but this sums up republican economics republican economics is like me or you deciding that at some point in the future we are going to win the lottery ... so we go ahead and start budgeting and spending now. does it make sense to spend money you dont have the economy is growing rapidly. unemployment is lower now than the average of clintons so called great years. well now that depends on what you call employment. many of my friends that use to write software before their jobs went to india now deliver pizza. riiighhhttt ... great economy miles. statiscally at some point during clintons years i suspect you are talking about the first couple of years there was more unemployment. but the jobs were better and higher paying which fueled the kick ass economy we saw on the mid to late 90s under democratic economic leadership ... not republican. consumer spending is up as well. sure it is everyone is following bushs example ... buy now pay later. im doing much better now so is my company family and friends. you comprise a very small percentage. i am not doing better and i know very few people that are. the 90s sucked and clinton/gore ignored the economists who predicted the market collapse. when the economy was falling in 2000 gore still campaigned saying how great things were looking...opposite of economists predictions. have you ever met a wealthy economist neither have i. what does that tell you read the labor reports. they are publicly available. unemployment is now lower than the average of the clinton years. go on go read it if you want to learn the truth of your propaganda based thinking. i better hurry i have to go deliver a pizza ... labor reports dont mean a damn thing and you know it. earnings are down among the middle class. high paying jobs are down. the indians are doing great. that is the reality of this president republican economics and our piss poor foreign policy. in bush sr.s last year in office the economy grew at 2%. jobs were down when bush sr was in office. that is an economic indicator i look at. the country was in debt before he took office and it was worse when he left. the is an economic indicator i look at. bush srs so-called recession recovery was what economists call upside-down. under bush sr. business profits soared and umemployment and wages lagged. that is the fact. his recovery plan was not sustainable because of the debt. sounds like bab

From : greg surratt

tbone wrote but thats ok for your new buddy right. hell i was his buddy last week now theguy is the new buddy. looks like someone really wants a buddy cant find a buddy crying if someone looks like someone elses buddy and not his buddy. someone please be his buddy ................ lol ya gotta love a consistency even if it is crying and whining. .