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From : mike simmons

Q: for all of my fellow jarheads who have served and are currently serving in the service of this great nation. happy birthday!! november 10 1775 tun tavern pa semper fi!! oohrah!! mike .

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From : budd cochranbudd cochran

amen -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ tomorrow is veterans day so i figured something should be said thank you and welcome home. for those who serve and stand on the wall at night thank you be safe. roy --- outgoing mail is certified virus free by avg and norton checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.537 / virus database 332 - release date 11/6/2003 .

From : budd cochran

ya know you guys dont look a day over 300 . . . . . -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ for all of my fellow jarheads who have served and are currently serving in the service of this great nation. happy birthday!! november 10 1775 tun tavern pa semper fi!! oohrah!! mike --- outgoing mail is certified virus free by avg and norton checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.537 / virus database 332 - release date 11/6/2003 .

From : mac davis

on thu 13 nov 2003 065207 gmt ralph dmaft@comcast.net wrote snip btw do you know why the army has mules and the navy has marines the army had first pick. sorry - couldnt resist. i thought it was because sheep would be too obvious.. *g* .

From : ralph

hey mike do you know what the definition of a marine is its when the shit hits the fan! marrreeeen!! seriously this old salt has a lot of respect for you guys. before i retired a few years ago my last sea command was the uss hue city cg-66. named for the battle of hue. the only ship named for a vietnam battle so far. at any rate the more i learned of that battle the more i came to respect jarheads. each year we held a memorial/reunion onboard and i met some fasinating characters. their stories were stark reminders of the reality of war. every squid on that boat looked at you guys differently from that point on. thanks for keeping us safe on your watch. if you ever need anything from northeast florida holler. semper fi shipmate! ralph btw do you know why the army has mules and the navy has marines the army had first pick. sorry - couldnt resist. for all of my fellow jarheads who have served and are currently serving in the service of this great nation. happy birthday!! november 10 1775 tun tavern pa semper fi!! oohrah!! mike .

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From : mike simmons

hey mike do you know what the definition of a marine is its when the shit hits the fan! marrreeeen!! seriously this old salt has a lot of respect for you guys. before i retired a few years ago my last sea command was the uss hue city cg-66. named for the battle of hue. the only ship named for a vietnam battle so far. at any rate the more i learned of that battle the more i came to respect jarheads. each year we held a memorial/reunion onboard and i met some fasinating characters. their stories were stark reminders of the reality of war. every squid on that boat looked at you guys differently from that point on. thanks for keeping us safe on your watch. if you ever need anything from northeast florida holler. semper fi shipmate! ralph btw do you know why the army has mules and the navy has marines the army had first pick. sorry - couldnt resist. ralph he..he...he... thought id heard em all but thats a new one...... cute! ne fl huh might be down in your neck of the woods come early spring. momma and i are talking about hooking up the rv and heading south for a week or so to get a jump start on spring... if i head that way i may have to look you up and swap sea stories. mike for all of my fellow jarheads who have served and are currently serving in the service of this great nation. happy birthday!! november 10 1775 tun tavern pa semper fi!! oohrah!! mike .

From : ralph

i look forward to it. we have a couple of rv parks right on the beach here in jax. ralph hey mike do you know what the definition of a marine is its when the shit hits the fan! marrreeeen!! seriously this old salt has a lot of respect for you guys. before i retired a few years ago my last sea command was the uss hue city cg-66. named for the battle of hue. the only ship named for a vietnam battle so far. at any rate the more i learned of that battle the more i came to respect jarheads. each year we held a memorial/reunion onboard and i met some fasinating characters. their stories were stark reminders of the reality of war. every squid on that boat looked at you guys differently from that point on. thanks for keeping us safe on your watch. if you ever need anything from northeast florida holler. semper fi shipmate! ralph btw do you know why the army has mules and the navy has marines the army had first pick. sorry - couldnt resist. ralph he..he...he... thought id heard em all but thats a new one...... cute! ne fl huh might be down in your neck of the woods come early spring. momma and i are talking about hooking up the rv and heading south for a week or so to get a jump start on spring... if i head that way i may have to look you up and swap sea stories. mike for all of my fellow jarheads who have served and are currently serving in the service of this great nation. happy birthday!! november 10 1775 tun tavern pa semper fi!! oohrah!! mike .

From : yonzie

mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote on thu 13 nov 2003 065207 gmt ralph dmaft@comcast.net wrote snip btw do you know why the army has mules and the navy has marines the army had first pick. sorry - couldnt resist. i thought it was because sheep would be too obvious.. *g* now thats baaaad dale .

From : nosey

budd cochran wrote ralph if you get over to the hs-7 squadron at jax nas see if you can find my son seaman bryon cochran. seaman i thought he was an airdale! .

From : ralph

no sweat budd. im heading over to nas in the near future. ill see if i cant surprise him. ralph ralph if you get over to the hs-7 squadron at jax nas see if you can find my son seaman bryon cochran. tell him his dad said to straighten up. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i look forward to it. we have a couple of rv parks right on the beach here in jax. ralph hey mike do you know what the definition of a marine is its when the shit hits the fan! marrreeeen!! seriously this old salt has a lot of respect for you guys. before i retired a few years ago my last sea command was the uss hue city cg-66. named for the battle of hue. the only ship named for a vietnam battle so far. at any rate the more i learned of that battle the more i came to respect jarheads. each year we held a memorial/reunion onboard and i met some fasinating characters. their stories were stark reminders of the reality of war. every squid on that boat looked at you guys differently from that point on. thanks for keeping us safe on your watch. if you ever need anything from northeast florida holler. semper fi shipmate! ralph btw do you know why the army has mules and the navy has marines the army had first pick. sorry - couldnt resist. ralph he..he...he... thought id heard em all but thats a new one...... cute! ne fl huh might be down in your neck of the woods come early spring. momma and i are talking about hooking up the rv and heading south for a week or so to get a jump start on spring... if i head that way i may have to look you up and swap sea stories. mike for all of my fellow jarheads who have served and are currently serving in the service of this great nation. happy birthday!! november 10 1775 tun tavern pa semper fi!! oohrah!! mike --- outgoing mail is certified virus free by avg and norton checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.537 / virus database 332 - release date 11/6/2003 .

From : budd cochran

actually being ex-army type i had the ranks confused. hes an aman which i believe is airman. but since airman in the air force is the norm i didnt realize the navy had aspirations on the name. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ budd cochran wrote ralph if you get over to the hs-7 squadron at jax nas see if you can find my son seaman bryon cochran. seaman i thought he was an airdale! --- outgoing mail is certified virus free by avg and norton checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.537 / virus database 332 - release date 11/6/2003 .

From : jason purcelljerry

my dads utility company puts a big steel piece of railroad in all their company trucks... i carry about 300lbs. in my 2500 lwb. i use three rubbermaid totes that i drilled through the handle tab and secured the lids with wire ties. i was going to leave the sand in plastic bags under a tonneau cover. my other option are some free steel lally columns filled with concrete. i also was considering cinder blocks. any idea how much weight would be required i was thinking about 300lbs. this truck is really digging into the highway. it barely rolls on its own when i let go of the gas. the plus side is the larger tires 256/70 17 vs the 245/70 17 that came with the truck make the truck more level and look better. four wheel drive does not mean four wheel stop. ive seen several suvs flipped over off the road or impaled on median strips on my way home down the nj turnpike in the snow. when i purchased the tires i consulted my local tire dealer. he actually could not even get my size i had to order them via the internet he recommended the studs. i did ask the rain question. he had said that they always dig into the highway i guess thats why you cant put them on before nov 15 and have to have them off by april 1 in nj. i hope his recommendation was right. i wish that dodge was not so cheap when it came to abs. they did not include four wheel abs. every gm car and truck comes with four wheel abs. the toyota tundra i passed up also had it. .

From : jerry

budd cochran wrote actually being ex-army type i had the ranks confused. hes an aman which i believe is airman. if the term airman is applied to him then it means he is a non designated e-3. once he is designated or makes e-4 then his title becomes aviation -what ever. such as am which means aviation structural mechanic which may be where you got the aman from as ive never heard of that unless he is a e-2 which means he is a airman apprentice and it a kind of slang term. all personal who work in aviation are called airdales regardless of rank or rate. jerry .

From : mac davis

on mon 17 nov 2003 235939 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote jerry wrote budd cochran wrote actually being ex-army type i had the ranks confused. hes an aman which i believe is airman. if the term airman is applied to him then it means he is a non designated e-3. once he is designated or makes e-4 then his title becomes aviation -what ever. such as am which means aviation structural mechanic which may be where you got the aman from as ive never heard of that unless he is a e-2 which means he is a airman apprentice and it a kind of slang term. all personal who work in aviation are called airdales regardless of rank or rate. jerry not exactly. if he were undesignated and assigned to an aviation unit like hs-7 he would be simply an airman an. bryon is designated as an am and if he is of the paygrade e-3 it would make him officially an aman. if we were to meet on the job it would be acceptable for me to call him airman cochran regardless of the fact that he is a designated am. if he were an e-2 i would call him airman apprentice cochran. this is not slang its official. http//www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ranks/rates/rates2.html his am rating has recently been formed from two of three related but separate ratings. they were ams - aviation structural mechanic s structures amh - aviation structural mechanic h hydraulics and ame - aviation structural mechanic e safety equipment. ams and amh were combined to form the am rating leaving ame unchanged. i am an ame. sounds way too complicated... hey dude works for me... i guess thats one of the many reasons the army and i parted after 3 years.. lol .

From : tango13

excuse me for butting into this marine thread but..... this old swabby 1969 says ever hear of the army/navy mobile riverene force tango boats etc the point being that team work gets the job done. this is a basic marine concept....right anyone ever have their asses saved in a bad firefight by a flight of navy jets.. yeah me too. nothing in this world is prettierthan those planes rolling in laying 20mm & napalm cans on the bad guys. lets all be bros here. many of those navy jets are/were flown by marines and they didnt care if i was a lowly unmanly sailor or not. many thanks to all those ballsy men... tango13...out... on wed 19 nov 2003 032825 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote mike simmons wrote wait-a-minit . . . i thought you were younger than me . . . vbg -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ budd cochran wrote btw i forgot to say thanks jerry. rankings have changed since i was in and i appreciate the assistance. well after my last post i suddenly realized what nosey was saying and he was right. for some reason i kept looking at aman as a word instead of what it was or is which is a acronym for rate/rank. guess ive been away a little longer than i realized or maybe it was one of those senior moments ive heard about. jerry ok boyz..... enough of this swabby talk this is a marine thread.... remember ;^ mike well.... the marine corps does belong to the department of the navy. ;^ yeah were a department of the navy..... the mens department! ;^ mike .

From : mike simmons

wow!! how did this ol thread get resurrected semper fi! mike excuse me for butting into this marine thread but..... this old swabby 1969 says ever hear of the army/navy mobile riverene force tango boats etc the point being that team work gets the job done. this is a basic marine concept....right anyone ever have their asses saved in a bad firefight by a flight of navy jets.. yeah me too. nothing in this world is prettierthan those planes rolling in laying 20mm & napalm cans on the bad guys. lets all be bros here. many of those navy jets are/were flown by marines and they didnt care if i was a lowly unmanly sailor or not. many thanks to all those ballsy men... tango13...out... on wed 19 nov 2003 032825 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote mike simmons wrote wait-a-minit . . . i thought you were younger than me . . . vbg -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ budd cochran wrote btw i forgot to say thanks jerry. rankings have changed since i was in and i appreciate the assistance. well after my last post i suddenly realized what nosey was saying and he was right. for some reason i kept looking at aman as a word instead of what it was or is which is a acronym for rate/rank. guess ive been away a little longer than i realized or maybe it was one of those senior moments ive heard about. jerry ok boyz..... enough of this swabby talk this is a marine thread.... remember ;^ mike well.... the marine corps does belong to the department of the navy. ;^ yeah were a department of the navy..... the mens department! ;^ mike .

From : budd cochran

as a staff sergeant i hated calling everyone in the platoon by their last name. then my platoon leader msgt told me it was bad procedure to get too close to my men. then why did we get the top marks for efficiency -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ on mon 17 nov 2003 235939 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote jerry wrote budd cochran wrote actually being ex-army type i had the ranks confused. hes an aman which i believe is airman. if the term airman is applied to him then it means he is a non designated e-3. once he is designated or makes e-4 then his title becomes aviation -what ever. such as am which means aviation structural mechanic which may be where you got the aman from as ive never heard of that unless he is a e-2 which means he is a airman apprentice and it a kind of slang term. all personal who work in aviation are called airdales regardless of rank or rate. jerry not exactly. if he were undesignated and assigned to an aviation unit like hs-7 he would be simply an airman an. bryon is designated as an am and if he is of the paygrade e-3 it would make him officially an aman. if we were to meet on the job it would be acceptable for me to call him airman cochran regardless of the fact that he is a designated am. if he were an e-2 i would call him airman apprentice cochran. this is not slang its official. http//www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ranks/rates/rates2.html his am rating has recently been formed from two of three related but separate ratings. they were ams - aviation structural mechanic s structures amh - aviation structural mechanic h hydraulics and ame - aviation structural mechanic e safety equipment. ams and amh were combined to form the am rating leaving ame unchanged. i am an ame. sounds way too complicated... hey dude works for me... i guess thats one of the many reasons the army and i parted after 3 years.. lol .

From : dan j sbudd cochran

dan j.s. wrote the thing has got so bloated that it looks like a hemi minivan i agree. the new durango looks like a mini-van. you guys are waay off. it looks nothing like a mini-van. it looks like a big pt cruiser! anyway people have been wanting a full size ramcharger available in places other than mexico for years. i think they are getting closer. ok i was at a bar where there were like 15 people watching that commercial near me and almost everyone said oh look a new minivan. at first glance i thought it was a new mini-van too. only reason i knew it wasnt was because dodge sends me literature and new durango was part of it. i guess it will take some time getting used to it... .

From : jerry

nosey wrote not exactly. if he were undesignated and assigned to an aviation unit like hs-7 he would be simply an airman an. bryon is designated as an am and if he is of the paygrade e-3 it would make him officially an aman. if we were to meet on the job it would be acceptable for me to call him airman cochran regardless of the fact that he is a designated am. if he were an e-2 i would call him airman apprentice cochran. this is not slang its official. http//www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ranks/rates/rates2.html his am rating has recently been formed from two of three related but separate ratings. they were ams - aviation structural mechanic s structures amh - aviation structural mechanic h hydraulics and ame - aviation structural mechanic e safety equipment. ams and amh were combined to form the am rating leaving ame unchanged. i am an ame. the possible slang i was referring to was the word aman which i had never heard used. e-2 or e-3 would generally just be addressed as airman regardless of designator while on the job site. same as in engineering fireman is used for e-2 or e-3 as is seaman in deck department clerks store keepers and so on. if you are or were a e-6 i would not address you as aviation structural mechanic e petty officer first class jones but simply as petty officer jones. if you look at the blue angel site http//www.blueangels.org/rates/ratedesc.html it seems to indicate that the am is a catch all for the three ratings you mentioned but would change as a individual is moved into a specialty. being a snipe myself im not that familiar with the aviation field. jerry .

From : budd cochran

btw i forgot to say thanks jerry. rankings have changed since i was in and i appreciate the assistance. -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ nosey wrote not exactly. if he were undesignated and assigned to an aviation unit like hs-7 he would be simply an airman an. bryon is designated as an am and if he is of the paygrade e-3 it would make him officially an aman. if we were to meet on the job it would be acceptable for me to call him airman cochran regardless of the fact that he is a designated am. if he were an e-2 i would call him airman apprentice cochran. this is not slang its official. http//www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ranks/rates/rates2.html his am rating has recently been formed from two of three related but separate ratings. they were ams - aviation structural mechanic s structures amh - aviation structural mechanic h hydraulics and ame - aviation structural mechanic e safety equipment. ams and amh were combined to form the am rating leaving ame unchanged. i am an ame. the possible slang i was referring to was the word aman which i had never heard used. e-2 or e-3 would generally just be addressed as airman regardless of designator while on the job site. same as in engineering fireman is used for e-2 or e-3 as is seaman in deck department clerks store keepers and so on. if you are or were a e-6 i would not address you as aviation structural mechanic e petty officer first class jones but simply as petty officer jones. if you look at the blue angel site http//www.blueangels.org/rates/ratedesc.html it seems to indicate that the am is a catch all for the three ratings you mentioned but would change as a individual is moved into a specialty. being a snipe myself im not that familiar with the aviation field. jerry .

From : mike simmons

on tue 18 nov 2003 195458 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote ok boyz..... enough of this swabby talk this is a marine thread.... remember ;^ mike hmm... merchant marine or ancient mariner *g* mac as much rain as we have had in these parts lately i think it should be submarine! ^ mike .

From : budd cochran

wait-a-minit . . . i thought you were younger than me . . . vbg -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ budd cochran wrote btw i forgot to say thanks jerry. rankings have changed since i was in and i appreciate the assistance. well after my last post i suddenly realized what nosey was saying and he was right. for some reason i kept looking at aman as a word instead of what it was or is which is a acronym for rate/rank. guess ive been away a little longer than i realized or maybe it was one of those senior moments ive heard about. jerry .

From : tbonemike simmonsmike simmons

tbone wrote there is no such thing as reverse discrimination budd you either discriminate or you dont. really! tell that to the courts as not long ago a law suit at a california college was filed on the grounds that race quotas had created reverse discrimination in denying two white applicants equal opportunity for entrance into the college. the court accepted that term and said same was reported in the as such. just because the courts coined a term doesnt make it a valid one. how do you reverse discrimination now was it reverse discrimination impossible or a reversed discrimination what actually happened -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : nosey

mike simmons wrote wait-a-minit . . . i thought you were younger than me . . . vbg -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ budd cochran wrote btw i forgot to say thanks jerry. rankings have changed since i was in and i appreciate the assistance. well after my last post i suddenly realized what nosey was saying and he was right. for some reason i kept looking at aman as a word instead of what it was or is which is a acronym for rate/rank. guess ive been away a little longer than i realized or maybe it was one of those senior moments ive heard about. jerry ok boyz..... enough of this swabby talk this is a marine thread.... remember ;^ mike well.... the marine corps does belong to the department of the navy. ;^ .

From : budd cochran

shhh! theyve forgotten that over the years and think theyre an independent service . . . . vbg -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ mike simmons wrote wait-a-minit . . . i thought you were younger than me . . . vbg -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ budd cochran wrote btw i forgot to say thanks jerry. rankings have changed since i was in and i appreciate the assistance. well after my last post i suddenly realized what nosey was saying and he was right. for some reason i kept looking at aman as a word instead of what it was or is which is a acronym for rate/rank. guess ive been away a little longer than i realized or maybe it was one of those senior moments ive heard about. jerry ok boyz..... enough of this swabby talk this is a marine thread.... remember ;^ mike well.... the marine corps does belong to the department of the navy. ;^ .

From : mike simmons

mike simmons wrote wait-a-minit . . . i thought you were younger than me . . . vbg -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ budd cochran wrote btw i forgot to say thanks jerry. rankings have changed since i was in and i appreciate the assistance. well after my last post i suddenly realized what nosey was saying and he was right. for some reason i kept looking at aman as a word instead of what it was or is which is a acronym for rate/rank. guess ive been away a little longer than i realized or maybe it was one of those senior moments ive heard about. jerry ok boyz..... enough of this swabby talk this is a marine thread.... remember ;^ mike well.... the marine corps does belong to the department of the navy. ;^ yeah were a department of the navy..... the mens department! ;^ mike .

From : mac davis

on tue 18 nov 2003 195458 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote ok boyz..... enough of this swabby talk this is a marine thread.... remember ;^ mike hmm... merchant marine or ancient mariner *g* .