HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDD!

From : nathan w collier

Q: like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com .

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From : tbone

the problem budd is that im not sure you even know what the word means. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hey i agree with both of you but the key word is friend wouldnt you agree -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on mon 27 feb 2006 093727 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg roy ive always joked around like that with my friends... we all know its a joke and seems natural i guess.. exactly! always remember rule #1 never let friendship stand in the way of a good cheap shot.bfg roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : azwiley1

on feb 20 1240 am nathan in montana montanajee...@aol.com wrote .....beat ya again my friend. - i hope you enjoy your day as i will mine. -- nathan in montanahttp//concealedcarryforum.comhttp//1911talk.comhttp//glockcarry.com ok nate wises budd happy birthday and budd doesnt reply to his friend... hmmmm .

From : marsh monster

nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. ========= ========= who brought the cake....... marshmonster drinks one to budd.....while wrapping the tornado and putting on the bow .

From : tbone

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : theguy

on 20 feb 2006 162301 -0800 marsh monster marshmonster2624@aol.com wrote nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. ========= ========= who brought the cake....... i did. better check it for fuses. vbg marshmonster drinks one to budd.....while wrapping the tornado and putting on the bow .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

its yours too ya big bag of overdeveloped muscle. vbg hope ya had a good one. i did. i got some parts for my old motor scooter some tools and a big old birthday cake but thanks to my diabetes i could only have a little tiny piece . . . . . .bummer. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

im 59 and nates young enough to be my son if i had sired one at age 20 that is. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 i got the beer and i am drinking one now toasting these two people i consider friends on their b-day. lets see this make nate what about 75 and budd about 30 vbfg nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. who brought the cake....... marshmonster drinks one to budd.....while wrapping the tornado and putting on the bow never mind the cake... who brought the beer! = *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

then i would suggest not lighting the candles. happy birthday budd and nate -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on 20 feb 2006 162301 -0800 marsh monster marshmonster2624@aol.com wrote nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. ========= ========= who brought the cake....... i did. better check it for fuses. vbg marshmonster drinks one to budd.....while wrapping the tornado and putting on the bow .

From : azwiley1

i got the beer and i am drinking one now toasting these two people i consider friends on their b-day. lets see this make nate what about 75 and budd about 30 vbfg nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. who brought the cake....... marshmonster drinks one to budd.....while wrapping the tornado and putting on the bow never mind the cake... who brought the beer! = .

From : bryan

nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. who brought the cake....... marshmonster drinks one to budd.....while wrapping the tornado and putting on the bow never mind the cake... who brought the beer! = .

From : beekeep

ah the old keep getting older. looks like were both february babies. beekeep on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

when is your birthday greg it sure looks like great people were born in feb. you nate two presidents my cat . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 ah the old keep getting older. looks like were both february babies. beekeep on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : beekeep

actually 3 great presidents wahington lincoln reagan i believe. mine was on the 7th. i hit a young 54. beekeep on tue 21 feb 2006 051502 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote when is your birthday greg it sure looks like great people were born in feb. you nate two presidents my cat . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 ah the old keep getting older. looks like were both february babies. beekeep on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mac davis

on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. happy b-day budd... do roman numerals go that high *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. and its yours too isnt it nate you old enough to drink yet mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : tbone

damn a day away from me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving actually 3 great presidents wahington lincoln reagan i believe. mine was on the 7th. i hit a young 54. beekeep on tue 21 feb 2006 051502 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote when is your birthday greg it sure looks like great people were born in feb. you nate two presidents my cat . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 ah the old keep getting older. looks like were both february babies. beekeep on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

checked wikipedia and he was born the day before you the 6th. so that means i was born after you reagan and lincoln but before washington. one of my birthday presents was a pair of fish tail pipes for my cushman from j.c. whitney but at nearly 2 diameter and being mounted below but close to the scooter body i fear ill be scratching the chrome on corners. with one on each side itll look kinda like a pair of the big old chrome bumper guards on cars. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 actually 3 great presidents wahington lincoln reagan i believe. mine was on the 7th. i hit a young 54. beekeep on tue 21 feb 2006 051502 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote when is your birthday greg it sure looks like great people were born in feb. you nate two presidents my cat . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 ah the old keep getting older. looks like were both february babies. beekeep on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

which way tom but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 damn a day away from me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving actually 3 great presidents wahington lincoln reagan i believe. mine was on the 7th. i hit a young 54. beekeep on tue 21 feb 2006 051502 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote when is your birthday greg it sure looks like great people were born in feb. you nate two presidents my cat . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 ah the old keep getting older. looks like were both february babies. beekeep on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

yeah ya really got to lean that thing when going around turns at 90 mph. beekeep if it gets up to 90 id better be wearing a parachute because it just went over a bi-i-i-i-g cliff. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : beekeep

yeah ya really got to lean that thing when going around turns at 90 mph. beekeep on tue 21 feb 2006 074009 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote checked wikipedia and he was born the day before you the 6th. so that means i was born after you reagan and lincoln but before washington. one of my birthday presents was a pair of fish tail pipes for my cushman from j.c. whitney but at nearly 2 diameter and being mounted below but close to the scooter body i fear ill be scratching the chrome on corners. with one on each side itll look kinda like a pair of the big old chrome bumper guards on cars. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 actually 3 great presidents wahington lincoln reagan i believe. mine was on the 7th. i hit a young 54. beekeep on tue 21 feb 2006 051502 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote when is your birthday greg it sure looks like great people were born in feb. you nate two presidents my cat . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 ah the old keep getting older. looks like were both february babies. beekeep on mon 20 feb 2006 160925 -0700 nathan w. collier nathan@nospam.com wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. -- nathan w. collier http//utilityoffroad.com http//7slotgrille.com http//inlinediesel.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com http//concealedcarryforum.com *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

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From : tbone

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : mac davis

on thu 23 feb 2006 031625 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. yep... ill testify to that... probably for the prosecution though.. *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on thu 23 feb 2006 050542 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. be nice budd.... ts a legend in his own mind... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : tbone

on thu 23 feb 2006 050542 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. be nice budd.... ts a legend in his own mind... and thats really all that matters now isnt it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on thu 23 feb 2006 050542 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. be nice budd.... ts a legend in his own mind... and thats really all that matters now isnt it. only in your mind tom only in your mind . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mike

dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. .

From : theguy

on thu 23 feb 2006 192917 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. hmmm. interesting comment considering the source. sometimes tolerance is warranted. you must consider the source in relation to the comment. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : dale yonz

theguy theguy@notebook.com wrote on 20 feb 2006 162301 -0800 marsh monster marshmonster2624@aol.com wrote nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. ========= ========= who brought the cake....... i did. better check it for fuses. vbg hell with the cake wheres the booze happy birthday bud and i hope you have many more to come dale .

From : dale yonz

nates birthday also happy birthday nathan does that make you and budd twins dale 43fa68e6$0$9162$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote its yours too ya big bag of overdeveloped muscle. vbg hope ya had a good one. i did. i got some parts for my old motor scooter some tools and a big old birthday cake but thanks to my diabetes i could only have a little tiny piece . . . . . .bummer. .

From : mac davis

on thu 23 feb 2006 212720 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote be nice budd.... ts a legend in his own mind... and thats really all that matters now isnt it. ya got that one right... *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : dale yonz

arent they twins somehow they got separated at birth. azwiley1@cox.net wrote i got the beer and i am drinking one now toasting these two people i consider friends on their b-day. lets see this make nate what about 75 and budd about 30 vbfg nathan w. collier wrote like the subject line says this is budds birthday. who brought the cake....... marshmonster drinks one to budd.....while wrapping the tornado and putting on the bow never mind the cake... who brought the beer! = .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

of course not dale. nate would have to become much better looking for us to be twins. how ya been friend -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 nates birthday also happy birthday nathan does that make you and budd twins dale 43fa68e6$0$9162$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote its yours too ya big bag of overdeveloped muscle. vbg hope ya had a good one. i did. i got some parts for my old motor scooter some tools and a big old birthday cake but thanks to my diabetes i could only have a little tiny piece . . . . . .bummer. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : dale yonz

i have been doing ok healh wise. farming has been the shits poor poor grain prices. heres a joke my farming neighbour friend took a thousand dollars out of his bank account all in loonies our dollar coin is called a loonie. i seen him standing on a busy street corner with a lot of people gathered around him. i went over to see what was going on. here the fool had set up a money exchange. he was selling his $1 coins for 75. man did he have a line up. i asked him what was he thinking of. how in the hell are you making any money doing this. he looked at me and says this is better then farming dale 43fef4cb$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote of course not dale. nate would have to become much better looking for us to be twins. how ya been friend .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

compared to the two ol boys i saw buying melons for a $1 each and selling them for $0.50 each he was making a fortune! sorry to hear about the grain prices. i think us farmers have been doing poorly as well. my health has been better of late but i think its because ive lost about 50 pounds . . . .and no i dont plan to go looking for them. vbg -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 i have been doing ok healh wise. farming has been the shits poor poor grain prices. heres a joke my farming neighbour friend took a thousand dollars out of his bank account all in loonies our dollar coin is called a loonie. i seen him standing on a busy street corner with a lot of people gathered around him. i went over to see what was going on. here the fool had set up a money exchange. he was selling his $1 coins for 75. man did he have a line up. i asked him what was he thinking of. how in the hell are you making any money doing this. he looked at me and says this is better then farming dale 43fef4cb$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote of course not dale. nate would have to become much better looking for us to be twins. how ya been friend *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compared to the two ol boys i saw buying melons for a $1 each and selling them for $0.50 each he was making a fortune! sorry to hear about the grain prices. i think us farmers have been doing poorly as well. my health has been better of late but i think its because ive lost about 50 pounds . . . .and no i dont plan to go looking for them. vbg -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 i have been doing ok healh wise. farming has been the shits poor poor grain prices. heres a joke my farming neighbour friend took a thousand dollars out of his bank account all in loonies our dollar coin is called a loonie. i seen him standing on a busy street corner with a lot of people gathered around him. i went over to see what was going on. here the fool had set up a money exchange. he was selling his $1 coins for 75. man did he have a line up. i asked him what was he thinking of. how in the hell are you making any money doing this. he looked at me and says this is better then farming dale 43fef4cb$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote of course not dale. nate would have to become much better looking for us to be twins. how ya been friend *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on sat 25 feb 2006 121350 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. of all the people i have ever been around even just on a ng you are the most likely to blow an o-ring. tom was making a joke and you have to take it personally. first the joke was a common one i have heard people say that same thing tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized that..........but no you are always just spoinling for a fight. of course you can never finish the fight because you end up whining like a baby. anyway back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it never hurts to laugh a little even if you think you might be laughing at yourself. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compared to the two ol boys i saw buying melons for a $1 each and selling them for $0.50 each he was making a fortune! sorry to hear about the grain prices. i think us farmers have been doing poorly as well. my health h

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sat 25 feb 2006 121350 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. of all the people i have ever been around even just on a ng you are the most likely to blow an o-ring. tom was making a joke and you have to take it personally. if you tease a dog long enough it will bite. consider yourself bit. first the joke was a common one i have heard people say that same thing tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized that..........but no you are always just spoinling for a fight. of course you can never finish the fight because you end up whining like a baby. im sorry where is it written that i cant be offended by people like the two of you i dont have to accept anything either of you say as a joke. anyway back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it never hurts to laugh a little even if you think you might be laughing at yourself. stop acting like i should be stuffed in a closet and ignored. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on sat 25 feb 2006 180222 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 121350 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. of all the people i have ever been around even just on a ng you are the most likely to blow an o-ring. tom was making a joke and you have to take it personally. if you tease a dog long enough it will bite. consider yourself bit. lol. ok. im just almost speechless. what an idiot. first the joke was a common one i have heard people say that same thing tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized that..........but no you are always just spoinling for a fight. of course you can never finish the fight because you end up whining like a baby. im sorry where is it written that i cant be offended by people like the two of you i dont have to accept anything either of you say as a joke. i suppose you can be as big an idiot as you want to be. you dont even have to try. anyway back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it never hurts to laugh a little even if you think you might be laughing at yourself. stop acting like i should be stuffed in a closet and ignored. budd that is sort of the point except that it is you that acts like you should bbe stuffed in a closet and/or ignored. i dont do that you do it all by yourself. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : roy

dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy .

From : dale yonz

talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. .

From : dale yonz

440051c1$0$17684$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote compared to the two ol boys i saw buying melons for a $1 each and selling them for $0.50 each he was making a fortune! sorry to hear about the grain prices. i think us farmers have been doing poorly as well. my health has been better of late but i think its because ive lost about 50 pounds . . . .and no i dont plan to go looking for them. vbg thats great budd i could lose a few lbs myself. im 220 i would like to be 190. just like the old joke my friend lost 110 lbs his wife left him dale .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sat 25 feb 2006 180222 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 121350 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. of all the people i have ever been around even just on a ng you are the most likely to blow an o-ring. tom was making a joke and you have to take it personally. if you tease a dog long enough it will bite. consider yourself bit. lol. ok. im just almost speechless. what an idiot. yes you are. first the joke was a common one i have heard people say that same thing tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized that..........but no you are always just spoinling for a fight. of course you can never finish the fight because you end up whining like a baby. im sorry where is it written that i cant be offended by people like the two of you i dont have to accept anything either of you say as a joke. i suppose you can be as big an idiot as you want to be. you dont even have to try. and you can be as unsociable as you want to be just dont expect me to roll over and play dead for it. anyway back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it never hurts to laugh a little even if you think you might be laughing at yourself. stop acting like i should be stuffed in a closet and ignored. budd that is sort of the point except that it is you that acts like you should bbe stuffed in a closet and/or ignored. i dont do that you do it all by yourself. wrong wrong wrong. you and tom have taken a simple report on the status of my health and a mention of physical limitations and turned it into an insult directed towards me. it shows the depths of your intolerance and uncaring attitudes. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

i was never a big fan of sellers or martin so ill probably skip it. i liked zathura when we rented it the other night. great special effects. budd talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. yes at one time i considered yours and toms remarks to be teases but you both went beyond that and thats were things are today. congratulations im your fault and toms. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy roy in spite of our differences and maybe because of them i do consider you to be a friend and i appreciate the advice. thank you. however t-bone and theguy are not friends as they continue to prove daily. so i can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as good advice. i would not ask them to do so it is their choice in the end. ill probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two but here it is as a type 2 diabetic diet is important to controlling my blood sugars. for example normal blood glucose bgs denny not bs. i measure my bgs ranges from 85-120. diabetes is when your body because of lack of insulin type 1 or inability to process insulin type 2 cannot deliver glucose to your cells so it goes into fat. and if your bgs go over 140 for example your body stops healing itself and yes that can be deadly. when i was diagnosed my bgs were in the high 600s. i should have been in a coma. i watch what i eat these days but more importantly i watch how much. im heavy into proteins meats and lentils but not the atkins diet and zero carb vegetables and restrict high carb foods like potatoes and 99% of the snack foods. heart health and diabetes have strong links as well since ldl cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process and then hdl cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. i use splenda im allergic to all the others in place of 90% of my sugar. some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable so read the labels and go for low carb and sugars / high fiber foods. dietary fiber is a carbohydrate but an indigestible carb. you subtract it from the total carbs to find net carbs. i consume about 2000 calories a day now or less as compared to 6000+ three years ago. then i exercise as much as time weather and general aches and pains allow. i am finally getting my car back together because cold weather and arthritis has limited how long i can be outside no garage just an awning type carport. i walk as much as i can and my younger brother and i go fishing which means long walks around the lake about 40 acres surface area between stops for vigorous fishing caught 6 rainbows yesterday largest about 3 pounds. the point is you dont need tai-bo or bowflex or anything just get out and do something. keep busy. the 50 pounds lost isnt quite right. when i was diagnosed i weighed 307 pounds. i weighed myself yesterday i get my weight only a couple times a week at 249. by summers end im shooting for 210. this morning my glucose was low enough to give myself a treat toaster waffles with butter and 2 tablespoons of real mrs. butterworths syrup two eggs over easy please and two strips of bacon. yes it was way over my limit of 45 carbs for breakfast but lunch is almost always under on carbs 45 allowed ill probably have 20-30. my normal breakfast two eggs two slices of toast coffee / milk / splenda comes to 25-27 carbs. email me if you have any questions. that goes for anyone. im not an expert but ive learned an awful lot in two years. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

440051c1$0$17684$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote compared to the two ol boys i saw buying melons for a $1 each and selling them for $0.50 each he was making a fortune! sorry to hear about the grain prices. i think us farmers have been doing poorly as well. my health has been better of late but i think its because ive lost about 50 pounds . . . .and no i dont plan to go looking for them. vbg thats great budd i could lose a few lbs myself. im 220 i would like to be 190. just like the old joke my friend lost 110 lbs his wife left him dale i had a friend years ago that told me his wife was a perfect 40-25-36. . . .. .and her other leg was even better. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on sun 26 feb 2006 012144 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@mac.com wrote talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale i am glad to hear you say that. i loved the original and i like steve martin. so far the critics have really panned that movie so i am glad to hear that you liked it. 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. .

From : theguy

on sun 26 feb 2006 062558 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180222 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 121350 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. of all the people i have ever been around even just on a ng you are the most likely to blow an o-ring. tom was making a joke and you have to take it personally. if you tease a dog long enough it will bite. consider yourself bit. lol. ok. im just almost speechless. what an idiot. yes you are. first the joke was a common one i have heard people say that same thing tongue in cheek many times. even you should have realized that..........but no you are always just spoinling for a fight. of course you can never finish the fight because you end up whining like a baby. im sorry where is it written that i cant be offended by people like the two of you i dont have to accept anything either of you say as a joke. i suppose you can be as big an idiot as you want to be. you dont even have to try. and you can be as unsociable as you want to be just dont expect me to roll over and play dead for it. anyway back to my point. stop acting like like an ignorant fool. it never hurts to laugh a little even if you think you might be laughing at yourself. stop acting like i should be stuffed in a closet and ignored. budd that is sort of the point except that it is you that acts like you should bbe stuffed in a closet and/or ignored. i dont do that you do it all by yourself. wrong wrong wrong. you and tom have taken a simple report on the status of my health and a mention of physical limitations and turned it into an insult directed towards me. it shows the depths of your intolerance and uncaring attitudes. what are you talking about .

From : theguy

on sun 26 feb 2006 063947 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. what 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale now you got me laughing. man you are amazing. what a waste. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. then why do you whine when it is brought up fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. again what are you talkiing about i dont make fun of any suffering or anguish you mention here. in fact i am really not sure what suffering and anguish you are even talking about. you have an incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity which you dont acknowledge. in fact at first i actually tried to help you out budd but you went spastic and refused to listen........to me or to several others that have written the same thing. as is usual you are your own worst enemy. i dont know what physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever they are. it is your stupidity that amazes me budd. i think that you said that you were 59 the other day that isnt that old. it isnt old at all. you got a lot of life in front of you but with your attitude you are going to walk backward through the whole thing. yes at one time i considered yours and toms remarks to be teases but you both went beyond that and thats were things are today. congratulations im your fault and toms. no you are your own fault budd. nobodyand i mean nobodycan control the way you think and what you say and how you confront life except you. once again it is a victims mantality to put responsiblity for your own actions at someone elses feet. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

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From : roy

dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy roy in spite of our differences and maybe because of them i do consider you to be a friend and i appreciate the advice. thank you. it is the grouchy old men thing. however t-bone and theguy are not friends as they continue to prove daily. so i can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as good advice. i would not ask them to do so it is their choice in the end. when i see a gbggbggbfg gbmfg or anything along those lines i figure what has been written has been done so in jest. no matter who writes it. ill probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two but here it is as a type 2 diabetic diet is important to controlling my blood sugars. for example normal blood glucose bgs denny not bs. i measure my bgs ranges from 85-120. diabetes is when your body because of lack of insulin type 1 or inability to process insulin type 2 cannot deliver glucose to your cells so it goes into fat. and if your bgs go over 140 for example your body stops healing itself and yes that can be deadly. when i was diagnosed my bgs were in the high 600s. i should have been in a coma. i watch what i eat these days but more importantly i watch how much. im heavy into proteins meats and lentils but not the atkins diet and zero carb vegetables and restrict high carb foods like potatoes and 99% of the snack foods. heart health and diabetes have strong links as well since ldl cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process and then hdl cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. i tried a modified akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep i needed all the carbs and caffiene. now this year as ive aged a bit i find that if i knock of the junk food snack stuff and the crap that you know isnt really good for you i can at least maintain. boy i can picture denny and mac all over this. friggin jackals. also as i get older i find that my appetite isnt what it was few years ago. i use splenda im allergic to all the others in place of 90% of my sugar. some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable so read the labels and go for low carb and sugars / high fiber foods. dietary fiber is a carbohydrate but an indigestible carb. you subtract it from the total carbs to find net carbs. i consume about 2000 calories a day now or less as compared to 6000+ three years ago. then i exercise as much as time weather and general aches and pains allow. i am finally getting my car back together because cold weather and arthritis has limited how long i can be outside no garage just an awning type carport. i walk as much as i can and my younger brother and i go fishing which means long walks around the lake about 40 acres surface area between stops for vigorous fishing caught 6 rainbows yesterday largest about 3 pounds. the point is you dont need tai-bo or bowflex or anything just get out and do something. keep busy. exercise! yup that is the thing. i cant stay on a tread mill im bored to tears in about 5 minutes. around here from nov. to april i dont want to be out walking around freezeing my ass off. friends of mine that work inside all year think it is the the balls to go for a 2 mile walk when it is 10 above. i work outside all year the last friggin thing i want to do is spend more time outside in the damn cold. actually it has gotton to the point that when i can retire in about 13 months im thinking really hard about moving to florida. at

From : tbone

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sun 26 feb 2006 063947 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. what read it again but more slowly. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale now you got me laughing. man you are amazing. what a waste. the internet is a two way street. your insults are also being spread world wide and show what you are really like to others. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. then why do you whine when it is brought up i call it self -defense. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. again what are you talkiing about i dont make fun of any suffering or anguish you mention here. in fact i am really not sure what suffering and anguish you are even talking about. rotflmbo!!!! go on denial is the first step towards admission. you have an incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity which you dont acknowledge. so you admit to being deliberately insulting how unsociable. in fact at first i actually tried to help you out budd but you went spastic and refused to listen........to me or to several others that have written the same thing. one difference between you tom and the others . . . .you two have never been my friends as far as i can tell from your lack of identity. i dont listen to enemies. as is usual you are your own worst enemy. really that would be your worthless-to me opinion of course. i dont know what physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever they are i dont believe you. you have made the situation such that i cannot believe you. it is your stupidity that amazes me budd. i think that you said that you were 59 the other day that isnt that old. it isnt old at all. you got a lot of life in front of you but with your

From : tbone

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg yea i know but mac is kind of mellow compared to the two of you although i can see that a high degree of respect is maintained. it is similar to the things said between me and my friends and is quite entertaining to read. how is the leg doing -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy roy in spite of our differences and maybe because of them i do consider you to be a friend and i appreciate the advice. thank you. it is the grouchy old men thing. well quit being an old grouch then. vbg however t-bone and theguy are not friends as they continue to prove daily. so i can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as good advice. i would not ask them to do so it is their choice in the end. when i see a gbggbggbfg gbmfg or anything along those lines i figure what has been written has been done so in jest. no matter who writes it. sorry roy but from those two those acronyms mean nothing to me based on their past treatments of me. its like back when we were kids if i punched you on the shoulder everytime i walked by you would be surprised and cautious if i didnt punch your shoulder. ill probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two but here it is as a type 2 diabetic diet is important to controlling my blood sugars. for example normal blood glucose bgs denny not bs. i measure my bgs ranges from 85-120. diabetes is when your body because of lack of insulin type 1 or inability to process insulin type 2 cannot deliver glucose to your cells so it goes into fat. and if your bgs go over 140 for example your body stops healing itself and yes that can be deadly. when i was diagnosed my bgs were in the high 600s. i should have been in a coma. i watch what i eat these days but more importantly i watch how much. im heavy into proteins meats and lentils but not the atkins diet and zero carb vegetables and restrict high carb foods like potatoes and 99% of the snack foods. heart health and diabetes have strong links as well since ldl cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process and then hdl cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. i tried a modified akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep i needed all the carbs and caffiene. now this year as ive aged a bit i find that if i knock of the junk food snack stuff and the crap that you know isnt really good for you i can at least maintain. boy i can picture denny and mac all over this. friggin jackals. also as i get older i find that my appetite isnt what it was few years ago. from talking with other diabetics and my doctor its just eating like we should have a long time ago. type-2 diabetes otoh shows strong signs of being genetic and a major cause of heart diseases which signs are also surfacing that those are genetic as well. i use splenda im allergic to all the others in place of 90% of my sugar. some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable so read the labels and go for low carb and sugars / high fiber foods. dietary fiber is a carbohydrate but an indigestible carb. you subtract it from the total carbs to find net carbs. i consume about 2000 calories a day now or less as compared to 6000+ three years ago. then i exercise as much as time weather and general aches and pains allow. i am finally getting my car back together because cold weather and arthritis has limited how long i can be outside no garage just an awning type carport. i walk as much as i can and my younger brother and i go fishing which means long walks around the lake about 40 acres surface area between stops for vigorous fishing caught 6 rainbows yesterday largest about 3 pounds. the point is you dont need tai-bo or bowflex or anything just get out and

From : tbone

anything negative to you is degrading. that makes any discussion with you very shallow. either people have to say mundane nothings they have to agree with you or they have to be degrading you. that doesnt leave a lot of room for honest discussion. i think you hit the nail right on the head here well said. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. only because you cant. i didnt attack you and used the standard ng indication that it was a joke and a well known one at that. sorry budd but your reaction was unexpected and only serves to show your true feelings that you have lied about many times already. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : theguy

on sun 26 feb 2006 132654 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote what are you talking about something beyond your capacity to comprehend apparently. or 1. yours to explain or 2. there is no explaination. and it is door number two budd. thats because you dont even know what the explaination is. you dont know what you are even talking about once again. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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whatever. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on sun 26 feb 2006 132654 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote what are you talking about something beyond your capacity to comprehend apparently. or 1. yours to explain or 2. there is no explaination. and it is door number two budd. thats because you dont even know what the explaination is. you dont know what you are even talking about once again. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on sun 26 feb 2006 134135 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sun 26 feb 2006 063947 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. what read it again but more slowly. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale now you got me laughing. man you are amazing. what a waste. the internet is a two way street. your insults are also being spread world wide and show what you are really like to others. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. then why do you whine when it is brought up i call it self -defense. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. again what are you talkiing about i dont make fun of any suffering or anguish you mention here. in fact i am really not sure what suffering and anguish you are even talking about. rotflmbo!!!! go on denial is the first step towards admission. you have an incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity which you dont acknowledge. so you admit to being deliberately insulting how unsociable. in fact at first i actually tried to help you out budd but you went spastic and refused to listen........to me or to several others that have written the same thing. one difference between you tom and the others . . . .you two have never been my friends score one for tom and i. as far as i can tell from your lack of identity. i dont listen to enemies. as is usual you are your own worst enemy. really that would be your worthless-to me opinion of course. i dont know what physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever they are i dont believe you. you have made the situation such that i cannot believe you. it is your stupidity that amazes me budd. i think that you said that you were

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sun 26 feb 2006 134135 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sun 26 feb 2006 063947 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. what read it again but more slowly. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale now you got me laughing. man you are amazing. what a waste. the internet is a two way street. your insults are also being spread world wide and show what you are really like to others. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. then why do you whine when it is brought up i call it self -defense. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. again what are you talkiing about i dont make fun of any suffering or anguish you mention here. in fact i am really not sure what suffering and anguish you are even talking about. rotflmbo!!!! go on denial is the first step towards admission. you have an incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity which you dont acknowledge. so you admit to being deliberately insulting how unsociable. in fact at first i actually tried to help you out budd but you went spastic and refused to listen........to me or to several others that have written the same thing. one difference between you tom and the others . . . .you two have never been my friends score one for tom and i. as far as i can tell from your lack of identity. i dont listen to enemies. as is usual you are your own worst enemy. really that would be your worthless-to me opinion of course. i dont know what physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever they are i dont believe you. you have made the situation such that i cannot believe you. it is your stupidity that amazes me budd. i think that you said t

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. from you there can be no jokes as far as im concerned. and you insulted me over my condition a long time before roy. dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. only because you cant. i didnt attack you and used the standard ng indication that it was a joke and a well known one at that. sorry budd but your reaction was unexpected and only serves to show your true feelings that you have lied about many times already. after all the insults im supposed to accept a joke from one that has proved he does not like me think again if you can. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. please define this intolerance you speak of and please give examples. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. oh give us a break. yes at one time i considered yours and toms remarks to be teases but you both went beyond that and thats were things are today. congratulations im your fault and toms. really when sorry budd but you have always acted this way and while i fully admit that i was an asshole over a year ago toward you it most certainly was not one sided. the difference now is that it is one sided and it is on you this time. now you have a choice. you can grow up or continue to be an asshole choose! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : mike

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale i was raised on the greats of comedy; red skelton joe e. brown milton berle and the like. much of what passes for comedy today isnt at all funny to me. i find it degrading and too sexually explicit. i dont care for the three stooges either. i also prefer science fiction and action adventures movies. one recent favorite was adapted from a book by a favorite author clive cussler. sahara is considerably different than the book yet kept the basic story line. clive was the advisor for this film unlike with his other book raise the titanic where he had no influence and the story was chopped to shreds. another series of books id like to see made into films but the author has set down specific rules about their filming is the dragons of pern series by anne mccaffery.

From : theguy

on sun 26 feb 2006 201634 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sun 26 feb 2006 134135 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sun 26 feb 2006 063947 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. what read it again but more slowly. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale now you got me laughing. man you are amazing. what a waste. the internet is a two way street. your insults are also being spread world wide and show what you are really like to others. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. then why do you whine when it is brought up i call it self -defense. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. again what are you talkiing about i dont make fun of any suffering or anguish you mention here. in fact i am really not sure what suffering and anguish you are even talking about. rotflmbo!!!! go on denial is the first step towards admission. you have an incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity which you dont acknowledge. so you admit to being deliberately insulting how unsociable. in fact at first i actually tried to help you out budd but you went spastic and refused to listen........to me or to several others that have written the same thing. one difference between you tom and the others . . . .you two have never been my friends score one for tom and i. as far as i can tell from your lack of identity. i dont listen to enemies. as is usual you are your own worst enemy. really that would be your worthless-to me opinion of course. i dont know what physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever they are i dont believe you. you have made the situation such that i cannot be

From : dale yonz

last week i was at costcos. they had the old pink panther collection set six dvds $38 cdn dollars. theguy theguy@notebook.com wrote on sun 26 feb 2006 012144 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@mac.com wrote talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale i am glad to hear you say that. i loved the original and i like steve martin. so far the critics have really panned that movie so i am glad to hear that you liked it. 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale i was raised on the greats of comedy; red skelton joe e. brown milton berle and the like. much of what passes for comedy today isnt at all funny to me. i find it degrading and too sexually explicit. i dont care for the three stooges either. i also prefer science fiction and action adventures movies. one recent favorite was adapted from a book by a favorite author clive cussler. sahara is considerably different than the book yet kept the basic story line. clive was the advisor for this film unlike with his other book raise the titanic where he had no influence and the story was chopped to shreds. another series of books id like to see made into films but the author has set down specific rules about their filming is the dragons of pern series by anne mccaffery. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of.

From : dale yonz

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale 4401bab9$0$944$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i was never a big fan of sellers or martin so ill probably skip it. i liked zathura when we rented it the other night. great special effects. budd talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 313451 qowmf.41857$no3.4747@tornado.southeast.rr.com ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. it doesnt and i never claimed it did. the whining comes from your bogus claims that people attack you based on your health which is a complete fallacy. second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. more complete lies but i guess if you keep repeating it to yourself and us it must be true. heres an idea budd how about you for once actually back up one of these bogus accusations. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. from you there can be no jokes as far as im concerned. and you insulted me over my condition a long time before roy. not true. i made fun of your senility and incontinence long before i knew anything of your real conditions based on how old you made it seem that you were. once i found out that you were not all that old and not in the best of health i stopped. i dont find it funny making fun of anothers actual disabilities especially growing up with a severely retarded brother. the true fact budd is that you hate me because i said and proved you wrong a few times but are not man enough to admit to it and have to resort to bogus justifications for your childish actions. dont worry i wont accuse you on hones

From : dale yonz

roy@home.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy roy in spite of our differences and maybe because of them i do consider you to be a friend and i appreciate the advice. thank you. it is the grouchy old men thing. however t-bone and theguy are not friends as they continue to prove daily. so i can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as good advice. i would not ask them to do so it is their choice in the end. when i see a gbggbggbfg gbmfg or anything along those lines i figure what has been written has been done so in jest. no matter who writes it. ill probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two but here it is as a type 2 diabetic diet is important to controlling my blood sugars. for example normal blood glucose bgs denny not bs. i measure my bgs ranges from 85-120. diabetes is when your body because of lack of insulin type 1 or inability to process insulin type 2 cannot deliver glucose to your cells so it goes into fat. and if your bgs go over 140 for example your body stops healing itself and yes that can be deadly. when i was diagnosed my bgs were in the high 600s. i should have been in a coma. i watch what i eat these days but more importantly i watch how much. im heavy into proteins meats and lentils but not the atkins diet and zero carb vegetables and restrict high carb foods like potatoes and 99% of the snack foods. heart health and diabetes have strong links as well since ldl cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process and then hdl cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. i tried a modified akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep i needed all the carbs and caffiene. now this year as ive aged a bit i find that if i knock of the junk food snack stuff and the crap that you know isnt really good for you i can at least maintain. boy i can picture denny and mac all over this. friggin jackals. also as i get older i find that my appetite isnt what it was few years ago. i use splenda im allergic to all the others in place of 90% of my sugar. some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable so read the labels and go for low carb and sugars / high fiber foods. dietary fiber is a carbohydrate but an indigestible carb. you subtract it from the total carbs to find net carbs. i consume about 2000 calories a day now or less as compared to 6000+ three years ago. then i exercise as much as time weather and general aches and pains allow. i am finally getting my car back together because cold weather and arthritis has limited how long i can be outside no garage just an awning type carport. i walk as much as i can and my younger brother and i go fishing which means long walks around the lake about 40 acres surface area between stops for vigorous fishing caught 6 rainbows yesterday largest about 3 pounds. the point is you dont need tai-bo or bowflex or anything just get out and do something. keep busy. exercise! yup that is the thing. i cant stay on a tread mill im bored to tears in about 5 minutes. around here from nov. to april i dont want to be out walking around freezeing my ass off. friends of mine that work inside all year think it is the the balls to go for a 2 mile walk when it is 10 above. i work outside all year the last friggin thing i want to do is spend more time outside in the damn cold. actually it has gotton to the point that when i can retire in about 13 months im thinking really hard abou

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. how long will it take for you to learn that each individual has the right to be offended and to choose who offends them what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. then you should demand your money back as well. are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. it doesnt and i never claimed it did. the whining comes from your bogus claims that people attack you based on your health which is a complete fallacy. no it isnt fallacy. second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. more complete lies but i guess if you keep repeating it to yourself and us it must be true. heres an idea budd how about you for once actually back up one of these bogus accusations. why how about you look up where ive whined as you call it . . .or will you find instead where ive responded to one of your insults please a link only i dont trust you to copy accurately. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. from you there can be no jokes as far as im concerned. and you insulted me over my condition a long time before roy. not true. i made fun of your senility and incontinence long before i knew anything of your real conditions based on how old you made it seem that you were. once i found out that you were not all that old and not in the best of health i stopped. no you didnt and never will. that woulf require a modicum of respect for me as a person and you cant do it. i dont find it funny making fun of anothers actual disabilities especially growing up with a severely retarded brother. the true fact budd is that you hate me because i said and proved you wrong a few times but are not man enough to admit to it and have to resort to bogus justifications for your childish actions. link to the proof tom. ive admitted my errors far more often than you. ive never attacked to try and defame the person that caught the errors like you do. dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. only because you cant. i didnt attack you and used the standard ng indication that it was a joke and a well known one at that. sorry budd but your reaction was unexpected and only serves to show your true feelings that you have lied about many times already. after all the insults im supposed to accept a joke from one that has proved he does not like me think again if you can. sorry budd but once again it is you who dislikes not me. funny how you can dish out the insults though. youve never done anything to prove yourself to otherwise. the times ive tried to get along with you you resort to insults. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. and your unproven point is -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the internet possibly the universe . . . . yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. please define this intolerance you speak of and please give examples. im sorry did you miss that class in your liberal studies fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. oh give us a break. how about you give me a break yes at one time i considered yours and toms remarks to be teases but you both went beyond that and thats were things are today. congratulations im your fault and toms. really when sorry budd but you have always acted this way and while i fully admit that i was an asshole over a year ago toward you it most certainly was not one sided. the difference now is that it is one sided and it is on you this time. now you have a choice. you can grow up or continue to be an asshole choose! no you are still the same and i am still defending my faith my health and my knowledge because you are still the same if not worse. of course to you defending oneself is what you call whining

From : roy

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg roy .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy if i busted mine that would be about 70 pounds.. *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sun 26 feb 2006 201634 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sun 26 feb 2006 134135 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sun 26 feb 2006 063947 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. what read it again but more slowly. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale now you got me laughing. man you are amazing. what a waste. the internet is a two way street. your insults are also being spread world wide and show what you are really like to others. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. then why do you whine when it is brought up i call it self -defense. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. again what are you talkiing about i dont make fun of any suffering or anguish you mention here. in fact i am really not sure what suffering and anguish you are even talking about. rotflmbo!!!! go on denial is the first step towards admission. you have an incredible victims mentality. i only make fun of your stupidity which you dont acknowledge. so you admit to being deliberately insulting how unsociable. in fact at first i actually tried to help you out budd but you went spastic and refused to listen........to me or to several others that have written the same thing. one difference between you tom and the others . . . .you two have never been my friends score one for tom and i. as far as i can tell from your lack of identity. i dont listen to enemies. as is usual you are your own worst enemy. really that would be your worthless-to me opinion of course. i dont know what physical problems you have and honestly wish you well with whatever they are i dont believe you. you have made the situation such that i

From : roy

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers now that is a real funny movie!!!! roy dale 4401bab9$0$944$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i was never a big fan of sellers or martin so ill probably skip it. i liked zathura when we rented it the other night. great special effects. budd talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : roy

roy@home.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy roy in spite of our differences and maybe because of them i do consider you to be a friend and i appreciate the advice. thank you. it is the grouchy old men thing. however t-bone and theguy are not friends as they continue to prove daily. so i can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as good advice. i would not ask them to do so it is their choice in the end. when i see a gbggbggbfg gbmfg or anything along those lines i figure what has been written has been done so in jest. no matter who writes it. ill probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two but here it is as a type 2 diabetic diet is important to controlling my blood sugars. for example normal blood glucose bgs denny not bs. i measure my bgs ranges from 85-120. diabetes is when your body because of lack of insulin type 1 or inability to process insulin type 2 cannot deliver glucose to your cells so it goes into fat. and if your bgs go over 140 for example your body stops healing itself and yes that can be deadly. when i was diagnosed my bgs were in the high 600s. i should have been in a coma. i watch what i eat these days but more importantly i watch how much. im heavy into proteins meats and lentils but not the atkins diet and zero carb vegetables and restrict high carb foods like potatoes and 99% of the snack foods. heart health and diabetes have strong links as well since ldl cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process and then hdl cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. i tried a modified akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep i needed all the carbs and caffiene. now this year as ive aged a bit i find that if i knock of the junk food snack stuff and the crap that you know isnt really good for you i can at least maintain. boy i can picture denny and mac all over this. friggin jackals. also as i get older i find that my appetite isnt what it was few years ago. i use splenda im allergic to all the others in place of 90% of my sugar. some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable so read the labels and go for low carb and sugars / high fiber foods. dietary fiber is a carbohydrate but an indigestible carb. you subtract it from the total carbs to find net carbs. i consume about 2000 calories a day now or less as compared to 6000+ three years ago. then i exercise as much as time weather and general aches and pains allow. i am finally getting my car back together because cold weather and arthritis has limited how long i can be outside no garage just an awning type carport. i walk as much as i can and my younger brother and i go fishing which means long walks around the lake about 40 acres surface area between stops for vigorous fishing caught 6 rainbows yesterday largest about 3 pounds. the point is you dont need tai-bo or bowflex or anything just get out and do something. keep busy. exercise! yup that is the thing. i cant stay on a tread mill im bored to tears in about 5 minutes. around here from nov. to april i dont want to be out walking around freezeing my ass off. friends of mine that work inside all year think it is the the balls to go for a 2 mile walk when it is 10 above. i work outside all year the last friggin thing i want to do is spend more time outside in the damn cold. actually it has gotton to the point that when i can retire in about 13

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

mac i appreciate the advice but to me it wasnt a joke just another insult. sorry. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd take your meds budd... he was making a friendly joke.. he didnt call you a name say you were wrong insult you or whatever else you have a problem with... at least find a little bump before going off the deep end making a new mountain... sheesh.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mac davis

on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends like ive said before budd... its a matter of how serious you take this stuff... to me humor is humor... some of the best shots ive received in groups are from people that i dont know or have never seen their posts.. no use taking it too seriously youre not getting out of it alive... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on sat 25 feb 2006 121350 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. hey budd... if you cant grow a thicker skin at least research what t meant by bfg... pair-a-noy-a strikes again mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd take your meds budd... he was making a friendly joke.. he didnt call you a name say you were wrong insult you or whatever else you have a problem with... at least find a little bump before going off the deep end making a new mountain... sheesh.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

snip sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. i tried a modified akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep i needed all the carbs and caffiene. now this year as ive aged a bit i find that if i knock of the junk food snack stuff and the crap that you know isnt really good for you i can at least maintain. boy i can picture denny and mac all over this. friggin jackals. also as i get older i find that my appetite isnt what it was few years ago. hey bro.. im becoming somewhat of a 2nd hand diet expert.. *g* nan has been on a weight watchers diet since april... lost about 85 pounds so far and fits in jeans sizes that i havent seen since high school.. her diet isnt rocket science but works very well.. first diet in her life that worked for her and i think its because its not a diet really but a lifestyle change.. instead of a list of stuff you can eat theres a list of stuff to avoid like fats and starches... nothing new there... but shes eating more now than ever in her life and feeling great... ive even lost about 25 without really trying because were eating better and healthier.. and getting a lot more exercise like morning walks and stuff.. she joined a gym but i just dont have the discipline for that.. *sigh* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on mon 27 feb 2006 093727 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg roy ive always joked around like that with my friends... we all know its a joke and seems natural i guess.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

nope . . .no way . . .gonna have to let denny comment on this one ... -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 roy@home.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy roy in spite of our differences and maybe because of them i do consider you to be a friend and i appreciate the advice. thank you. it is the grouchy old men thing. however t-bone and theguy are not friends as they continue to prove daily. so i can never accept much of anything they write as a joke or as good advice. i would not ask them to do so it is their choice in the end. when i see a gbggbggbfg gbmfg or anything along those lines i figure what has been written has been done so in jest. no matter who writes it. ill probably catch flack for telling you in public forum from those two but here it is as a type 2 diabetic diet is important to controlling my blood sugars. for example normal blood glucose bgs denny not bs. i measure my bgs ranges from 85-120. diabetes is when your body because of lack of insulin type 1 or inability to process insulin type 2 cannot deliver glucose to your cells so it goes into fat. and if your bgs go over 140 for example your body stops healing itself and yes that can be deadly. when i was diagnosed my bgs were in the high 600s. i should have been in a coma. i watch what i eat these days but more importantly i watch how much. im heavy into proteins meats and lentils but not the atkins diet and zero carb vegetables and restrict high carb foods like potatoes and 99% of the snack foods. heart health and diabetes have strong links as well since ldl cholesterol moves the glucose to the cells for the insulin to process and then hdl cholesterol scrubs it out of the arteries. sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. i tried a modified akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep i needed all the carbs and caffiene. now this year as ive aged a bit i find that if i knock of the junk food snack stuff and the crap that you know isnt really good for you i can at least maintain. boy i can picture denny and mac all over this. friggin jackals. also as i get older i find that my appetite isnt what it was few years ago. i use splenda im allergic to all the others in place of 90% of my sugar. some sugar in processed and canned food is unavoidable so read the labels and go for low carb and sugars / high fiber foods. dietary fiber is a carbohydrate but an indigestible carb. you subtract it from the total carbs to find net carbs. i consume about 2000 calories a day now or less as compared to 6000+ three years ago. then i exercise as much as time weather and general aches and pains allow. i am finally getting my car back together because cold weather and arthritis has limited how long i can be outside no garage just an awning type carport. i walk as much as i can and my younger brother and i go fishing which means long walks around the lake about 40 acres surface area between stops for vigorous fishing caught 6 rainbows yesterday largest about 3 pounds. the point is you dont need tai-bo or bowflex or anything just get out and do something. keep busy. exercise! yup that is the thing. i cant stay on a tread mill im bored to tears in about 5 minutes. around here from nov. to april i dont want to be out walking around freezeing my ass off. friends of mine that work inside all year think it is the the balls to go for a 2 mile walk when it is 10 above. i work outside all y

From : mac davis

on sat 25 feb 2006 223527 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd it was a joke not a original one but still a joke. try taking it for that and letting it go. if i managed to loose 50 pounds ya could bust my balls all day. shut the fuck up denny mac et al howd you do it roy if i busted mine that would be about 70 pounds.. *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was what would that do for you budd i would still be the same guy that posts here. so what difference does it make and why do you spend so much time whining about it and why should it be any your business budd as you would say. and your unproven point is .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 002101 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@mac.com wrote you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale we saw that one. my wife and my son liked it. it was just ok to me. movies are like politics there is no general agreement. 4401bab9$0$944$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i was never a big fan of sellers or martin so ill probably skip it. i liked zathura when we rented it the other night. great special effects. budd talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** . 222 313474 44031bde$0$20702$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com time to get out the chest waders . . . . . . hey didja ever here about the new species of bird found in the amazon jungles its called the ohno bird. a short legged five pound male bird with three pound testicles . . . . . . ill bet it doesnt land often. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on sat 25 feb 2006 223527 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of

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on mon 27 feb 2006 060123 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. geez score one more for tom. im falling behind. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the internet possibly the universe . . . . yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. please define this intolerance you speak of and please give examples. im sorry did you miss that class in your liberal studies fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take delight in anothers suffering or anguish. oh give us a break. how about you give me a break yes at one time i considered yours and toms remarks to be teases but you both went beyond that and thats were things are today. congratulations im your fault and toms. really when sorry budd but you have always acted this way and while i fully admit that i was an asshole over a year ago toward you it most certainly was not one sided. the difference now is that it is one sided and it is on you this time. now you have a choice. you can grow up or continue to be an asshole choose! no you are still the same and i am still defending my faith

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mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on sat 25 feb 2006 121350 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. hey budd... if you cant grow a thicker skin at least research what t meant by bfg... pair-a-noy-a strikes again mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was iirc you told everybody who you were when you came back. roy .

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snip sounds a little bit of the south beach diet. i tried a modified akins and found that to be able to put in 16 hours days and live on 4 hours sleep i needed all the carbs and caffiene. now this year as ive aged a bit i find that if i knock of the junk food snack stuff and the crap that you know isnt really good for you i can at least maintain. boy i can picture denny and mac all over this. friggin jackals. also as i get older i find that my appetite isnt what it was few years ago. hey bro.. im becoming somewhat of a 2nd hand diet expert.. *g* nan has been on a weight watchers diet since april... lost about 85 pounds so far and fits in jeans sizes that i havent seen since high school.. her diet isnt rocket science but works very well.. first diet in her life that worked for her and i think its because its not a diet really but a lifestyle change.. instead of a list of stuff you can eat theres a list of stuff to avoid like fats and starches... nothing new there... but shes eating more now than ever in her life and feeling great... ive even lost about 25 without really trying because were eating better and healthier.. and getting a lot more exercise like morning walks and stuff.. she joined a gym but i just dont have the discipline for that.. *sigh* why is it the woman that always does good with a diet sue is the same way can drop 15 pounds in a couple of weeks. i tell her it is because she is younger. you are right about the exercise bro. this morning it was 5 above and with the wind chill about 20 below. will be the same when i get into work tonight. i aint going for a walk.g actually that is the reason i want out of here and to fl when i retire. if you dont join a gym you are limited to what you can do 5-6 months of the year. roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 093727 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg roy ive always joked around like that with my friends... we all know its a joke and seems natural i guess.. exactly! always remember rule #1 never let friendship stand in the way of a good cheap shot.bfg roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 122820 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was iirc you told everybody who you were when you came back. roy ok i didnt remember. i stand corrected. anyway the anonymity is not a big deal to me. i didnt realize that i was trying to keep it a big secret. i also didnt realize that anyone really wondered or honestly really cared who i was and i dont understand what difference it would make to budd to know my real name. i still type what i have to say whatever name i use. fwiw when i first came here many years ago i did use my real name and email address. then a couple people on this ng got into a heated fight imagine that and started sending some pretty nasty emails to each others homes posting each others home addresses and the like. it was several of the regulars here that commented about how stupid it was to use your real name and email address. it made sense to me back then. anyway if it makes you all more comfortable i can post using my real first name but it is still just a label same as theguy. makes no difference to me. i imagine it wouldnt to budd either but it would take away one more thing that he has to constantly complain about. .

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hey i agree with both of you but the key word is friend wouldnt you agree -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on mon 27 feb 2006 093727 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg roy ive always joked around like that with my friends... we all know its a joke and seems natural i guess.. exactly! always remember rule #1 never let friendship stand in the way of a good cheap shot.bfg roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. and btw if youre always honest you have no need to try to be or stay honest. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. weird or very conservative you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep nope you can continue to dislike me if you choose. and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was what would that do for you budd duh!!!! i would know with whom i am arguing maybe i would still be the same guy that posts here. yeah so would i. so what difference does it make and why do you spend so much time whining about it and why should it be any your business budd as you would say. because i want to know who you are and if we were once friends what happened to that friendship. if not to reapir it to know what went wrong to avoid it if possible. iow to try and be a better person if possible. is that too hard for you to comprehend *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 122820 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote in mess

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 125332 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote you are such a wierd guy budd. weird or very conservative wierd. i am quite sure about that. i dont have any issue with conservative. i have several opinions that would be seen as very conservative. but then i have several opinions that would be seen as liberal and a few that would be viewed as moderate i think. i decide issues on the issue. i do not stick myself into one single philosophy. that only limits ones options to use their mind. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

if he did roy i missed it somehow. could it have been while i was offline during my move to ut -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote in message which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was iirc you told everybody who you were when you came back. roy *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote in message which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was iirc you told everybody who you were when you came back. roy ok i didnt remember. i stand corrected. anyway the anonymity is not a big deal to me. i didnt realize that i was trying to keep it a big secret. i also didnt realize that anyone really wondered or honestly really cared who i was and i dont understand what difference it would make to budd to know my real name. i still type what i have to say whatever name i use. if you took psychology then you know it can matter to some people and not to others. we are not all cut from the same cloth. fwiw when i first came here many years ago i did use my real name and email address. then a couple people on this ng got into a heated fight imagine that and started sending some pretty nasty emails to each others homes posting each others home addresses and the like. it was several of the regulars here that commented about how stupid it was to use your real name and email address. it made sense to me back then. anyway if it makes you all more comfortable i can post using my real first name but it is still just a label same as theguy. makes no difference to me. i imagine it wouldnt to budd either but it would take away one more thing that he has to constantly complain about. tell you what just post with what ever you want for a screen name. it dont matter anymore. i wasnt part of that group doing the addresses and such but it apparently doesnt matter to you. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** . 222 313494 rum6029ahpc0ehav1q170fiedoqdhm4btl@4ax.com on mon 27 feb 2006 124804 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both des

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 125332 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. weird or very conservative you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep nope you can continue to dislike me if you choose. and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was what would that do for you budd duh!!!! i would know with whom i am arguing maybe i would still be the same guy that posts here. yeah so would i. so what difference does it make and why do you spend so much time whining about it and why should it be any your business budd as you would say. because i want to know who you are and if we were once friends what happened to that friendship. if not to reapir it to know what went wrong to avoid it if possible. iow to try and be a better person if possible. is that too hard for you to comprehend budd i heard what you just said but it makes no sense therefor i dont comprehend it. what difference does it make for you to know who you are arguing with do you judge peoples opinions based on whether or not you like the person that made them or based upon the content of the message you see budd this is more proof of your serious problem of personalizing everything that goes on here or is said written. that is what causes you so much frustration. budd argue with the ideas and the words that form them. dont argue with the person. dont personalize everything. the ideas and opinions exist seperate of the person. even when that person is gone the ideas still exist. when you can seperate the pperson and the issue it is easier to listen to ideas are in conflict with your own. budd tom and i are not the only ones that have said this. just try it for a while and see if your life isnt more relaxed and your time on the ng more fun. if it doesnt work out you can always go back to being the way that you were. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 125815 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 122820 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote in message which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was iirc you told everybody who you were when you came back. roy ok i didnt remember. i stand corrected. anyway the anonymity is not a big deal to me. i didnt realize that i was trying to keep it a big secret. i also didnt realize that anyone really wondered or honestly really cared who i was and i dont understand what difference it would make to budd to know my real name. i still type what i have to say whatever name i use. if you took psychology then you know it can matter to some people and not to others. we are not all cut from the same cloth. not the point budd. everything matters to someone somewhere. i do not run my life by what matters to everyone else. fwiw when i first came here many years ago i did use my real name and email address. then a couple people on this ng got into a heated fight imagine that and started sending some pretty nasty emails to each others homes posting each others home addresses and the like. it was several of the regulars here that commented about how stupid it was to use your real name and email address. it made sense to me back then. anyway if it makes you all more comfortable i can post using my real first name but it is still just a label same as theguy. makes no difference to me. i imagine it wouldnt to budd either but it would take away one more thing that he has to constantly complain about. tell you what just post with what ever you want for a screen name. it dont matter anymore. i wasnt part of that group doing the addresses and such but it apparently doesnt matter to you. ok. well..................i would like to use theguy. i mean budd or roy or dale or tom or miles or nate................those would have all been my first choice but they were taken already. besides i have been called much worse bg. .

From : mac davis

on tue 28 feb 2006 021225 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. if you feel this way then why do you keep replying it sounds to me like you very much would miss our replies because without them you would have a hard time remaining the center of attention and would have to resort to attacking the ones you still call friends. oh wait a minute you are already doing that never mine. if you dont want to read what i have to say then as you keep saying killfile me but i bet you wont do it. ouch! some real hits home analysis there... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on mon 27 feb 2006 113412 -0800 theguy theguy@notebook.com wrote snip ok i didnt remember. i stand corrected. anyway the anonymity is not a big deal to me. i didnt realize that i was trying to keep it a big secret. i also didnt realize that anyone really wondered or honestly really cared who i was and i dont understand what difference it would make to budd to know my real name. i still type what i have to say whatever name i use. fwiw when i first came here many years ago i did use my real name and email address. then a couple people on this ng got into a heated fight imagine that and started sending some pretty nasty emails to each others homes posting each others home addresses and the like. it was several of the regulars here that commented about how stupid it was to use your real name and email address. it made sense to me back then. anyway if it makes you all more comfortable i can post using my real first name but it is still just a label same as theguy. makes no difference to me. i imagine it wouldnt to budd either but it would take away one more thing that he has to constantly complain about. to me that would be like being the artist formerly known as prince... i know you handle screen name or whatever and it works for me.. *g* youd have to use your name plus some kind of disclaimer about who you were or get flamed for it.. *lol* there must have been some reason for aohell starting the screen name in the 90s.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 125332 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep nope you can continue to dislike me if you choose. and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was what would that do for you budd duh!!!! i would know with whom i am arguing maybe i would still be the same guy that posts here. yeah so would i. so what difference does it make and why do you spend so much time whining about it and why should it be any your business budd as you would say. because i want to know who you are and if we were once friends what happened to that friendship. if not to reapir it to know what went wrong to avoid it if possible. you know budd it occurs to me that we may have a whole different definition of friend and that may be a part of the issue. to me if we had once been friends you would know who i was. i dont walk away from friends. and if our friendship had gone bad we would know that because it would involve our personal lives. maybe i have not been fair to you in using my world to judge how you are viewing this. i have a lot of friends in my life. people on this ng are not my friends. they are acqaintances all of whom seem like pretty decent people who like to get onto the internet once in a while to talk about dodge trucks and argue about whatever the prevailing topic is. all of whom like me get some fun out of doing that. but my life is not very involved in this ng so i dont see the people here as part of my family. i suppose that if this ng is a much larger part of your life to the point that you achieve some type of personal identity out of being here then you could feel different. if your circle of friends and family is dependant on this ng then i suppose you could see this as some sort of a real social circle. in that case it is easier for me to understand the soap opera that is called budd. i still think that you would be happier and less stressed on the ng if you would be able to take the personal feelings out of the debates. maybe you need to find a stronger life outside of the ng iow to try and be a better person if possible. is that too hard for you to comprehend .

From : tbone

which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. ok and you keep lying about it. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. really what is maxs full name. and your unproven point is read above and btw even you son does not use his real name. why is that budd -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. the problem is budd that it is not just my opinion it is the opinion of your friends in here as well. of course you find me offensive that is your hatred of me showing through. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. what does this incorrect statement have to do with anything thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and btw this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. no need to point to a link as you just did it again lol! 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the internet possibly the universe . . . . it is not paranoia just intelligence. there are some in here with a sufficiently low enough noise level such as tom l and mac that can use their real names with a fair amount of safety but i am the first to admit that i am not one of them but am trying to move more toward that type but in todays world with the current level of id theft and the international level of usenet it simply is not worth the risk. the thing is budd that you really have nothing to lose but i and many others do. yes i know that if i tell a friend about a health problem that its broadcast internationally. do you think your intolerance is only read here in the states guess what i dont put anything on these pixels that i need worry about. i have nothing to hide. please define this intol

From : mike

dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health youre kidding right this is usenet! damned thread can go on forever. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they would you like me to fully delurk rip the idiots a new asshole so they can call me names making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! -- some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

nope but you are. ok and you keep lying about it. childish. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. really what is maxs full name. the same as its been since his birth as far as i know. hes posted it and still does occasionally. and your unproven point is read above and btw even you son does not use his real name. why is that budd dont know for sure. it is his decision to do so being 27 years old of course but unlike you he doesnt panic and threaten lawsuits if his name gets posted. and your unproven point is -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. how long will it take for you to learn that each individual has the right to be offended and to choose who offends them you are just making it personal now budd probably due to your hatred. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. then you should demand your money back as well. i would say the same to you but it is more than obvious that you never attended. are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. it doesnt and i never claimed it did. the whining comes from your bogus claims that people attack you based on your health which is a complete fallacy. no it isnt fallacy. then back it up for a change. second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. more complete lies but i guess if you keep repeating it to yourself and us it must be true. heres an idea budd how about you for once actually back up one of these bogus accusations. why how about you look up where ive whined as you call it . . .or will you find instead where ive responded to one of your insults please a link only i dont trust you to copy accurately. i hate to break it to you budd but you are doing it in this thread as well. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. from you there can be no jokes as far as im concerned. and you insulted me over my condition a long time before roy. not true. i made fun of your senility and incontinence long before i knew anything of your real conditions based on how old you made it seem that you were. once i found out that you were not all that old and not in the best of health i stopped. no you didnt and never will. that woulf require a modicum of respect for me as a person and you cant do it. back this lie up budd if you can. dont worry ill wait. i dont find it funny making fun of anothers actual disabilities especially growing up with a severely retarded brother. the true fact budd is that you hate me because i said and proved you wrong a few times but are not man enough to admit to it and have to resort to bogus justifications for your childish actions. link to the proof tom. ive admitted my errors far more often than you. ive never attacked to try and defame the person that caught the errors like you do. hahahahahahaha what a complete lie. talk about selective memory. did you forget when you went so far as to change your sig line for no other purpose but to defame me and for nothing more than me catching your errors like when you claimed my telling a poster to disconnect the vacuum line to the front axle servo to allow for a temporary 2 wd low setup for positioning a trailer would cause an engine failure. dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. only because you cant. i didnt attack you and used the standard ng indication that it was a joke and a well known one at that. sorry budd but your reaction was unexpected and only serves to show your true feelings that you have lied about many times already. after all the insults im supposed to accept a joke from one that has

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ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. aha and you said previously you never insult me any more you damned liar. how long will it take for you to learn that each individual has the right to be offended and to choose who offends them you are just making it personal now budd probably due to your hatred. so what if i am you made it personal just a few lines ago. how do you know denny or roy would be insulted you presume too much when you speak for others. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. then you should demand your money back as well. i would say the same to you but it is more than obvious that you never attended. true i never did but not for the reason you think. i had a four year scholarship from my high school to john herron art school in indiananpolis in and went to work to care for my ailing mother instead. by the time her cancer went into remission my hands were ruined for art. btw i was the only second year high school art student in that school to ever be given a scholarship of any kind. are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. it doesnt and i never claimed it did. the whining comes from your bogus claims that people attack you based on your health which is a complete fallacy. no it isnt fallacy. then back it up for a change. why still waiting for you to back up about 250 things. second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. more complete lies but i guess if you keep repeating it to yourself and us it must be true. heres an idea budd how about you for once actually back up one of these bogus accusations. why how about you look up where ive whined as you call it . . .or will you find instead where ive responded to one of your insults please a link only i dont trust you to copy accurately. i hate to break it to you budd but you are doing it in this thread as well. i hate to break it to you but youre wrong as usual. im defending myself. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. from you there can be no jokes as far as im concerned. and you insulted me over my condition a long time before roy. not true. i made fun of your senility and incontinence long before i knew anything of your real conditions based on how old you made it seem that you were. once i found out that you were not all that old and not in the best of health i stopped. no you didnt and never will. that woulf require a modicum of respect for me as a person and you cant do it. back this lie up budd if you can. dont worry ill wait. already did. look back up a few lines.you proved my point for me again. i dont find it funny making fun of anothers actual disabilities especially growing up with a severely retarded brother. the true fact budd is that you hate me because i said and proved you wrong a few times but are not man enough to admit to it and have to resort to bogus justifications for your childish actions. link to the proof tom. ive admitted my errors far more often than you. ive never attacked to try and defame the person that caught the erro

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on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. the problem is budd that it is not just my opinion it is the opinion of your friends in here as well. of course you find me offensive that is your hatred of me showing through. rotflmbo!!!! i dont hate you theres nothing to hate. . . . . . . btw my friends know they can speak for themselves. they sure dont need you to do it for them. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. what does this incorrect statement have to do with anything thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and btw this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. no need to point to a link as you just did it again lol! spin twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the internet possibly the universe . . . . it is not paranoia just intelligence. rotflmbo!!!!!! there are some in here with a sufficiently low enough noise level such as tom l and mac that can use their real names with a fair amount of safety but i am the first to admit that i am not one of them but am trying to move more toward that type but in todays world with the current level of id theft and the international level of usenet it simply is not worth the risk. the thing is budd that you really have nothing to lose but i and many others do. rotflmbo!!!!!!! thou fool! jes

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you sure dont. here ya go not-friend http//education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/friend -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 the problem budd is that im not sure you even know what the word means. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 124804 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. why do you keep bringing your health into the discussion here is another example as tom and i have both pointed out as well as others. why does it bother you and tom if i do is there a new constitutional amendment that says i cant to explain to you its a comparison; i would miss not reading yours and toms insults no more than i would miss my health problems if they were all gone. and btw if youre always honest you have no need to try to be or stay honest. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 125815 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 122820 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 063126 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote in message budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote in message which way tom after and they seem to come faster and faster. you aint seen nuttin yet. thats what im afraid of. but we are recording birthdays for only the famous not the infamous ya know. bg i know why do you think i replied ;- i dont know . . . . .your egos running around without a leash maybe ego what ego im the most modest guy you know just ask me. we tried but couldnt get it to stop bragging long enough to answer. oh well i guess that complete lack of patients is a character flaw that we will just have to learn to live with ;- to paraphrase doc mccoy star trek im a mechanic tom not a doctor. i have no patients. besides three years is too long for anyone to have to have patience when it comes to your ego. or your insecurities. rotflmbo!!!!!! the one thats insecure is the one that drags up admitted errors to defame his opponent in an argument / debate in an effort to bolster his failing position. hahahahahaha yea right. in what way was my position failing this alone completely supports my position. you say you admitted to an error when you really did no such thing and then you claim that my position was failing when in fact i was completely correct. the thing that really pisses you off here is that you were completely wrong and know it. you were in such a rush to prove me wrong that you didnt bother to read everything and made a fool out of yourself with a completely incorrect answer and have no defense for it because admitting the truth would only prove to the world what a shallow petty man you have become. in your bigoted opinion tom. i made full admission in public forum and you dragged it out to weild as a weapon in an effort to dicredit me the result was you lost the discussion. thats something you do with regularity and then lie about the other person having admitted to the error. really budd it looks like you are confusing my posts with yours again. nope but you are. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. you are such a wierd guy budd. you have been whining lately about how it is your persoanl choice as to what you say who you like who you whatever. but apparently choice ends at your doorstep and what so pisses you off about my anonymity if i told you who i was iirc you told everybody who you were when you came back. roy ok i didnt remember. i stand corrected. anyway the anonymity is not a big deal to me. i didnt realize that i was trying to keep it a big secret. i also didnt realize that anyone really wondered or honestly really cared who i was and i dont understand what difference it would make to budd to know my real name. i still type what i have to say whatever name i use. if you took psychology then you know it can matter to some people and not to others. we are not all cut from the same cloth. not the point budd. everything matters to someone somewhere. i do not run my life by what matters to everyone else. no man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent. john donne we all affect others some positively. you and tom affect me negatively by your own choice it seems. fwiw when i first came here many years ago i did use my real name and email address. then a couple people on this ng got into a heated fight imagine that and started sending some pretty nasty emails to each others homes posting each others home addresses and the like. it was several of the regulars here that commented about how stupid it was to use your real name and email address. it made sense to me back then. anyway if it makes you all more comfortable i can post using my real first name but it is still just a label same as theguy. makes no difference to me. i imagine it wouldnt to budd either but it would take away one more thing that he has to constantly complain about. tell you what just post with what ever you want for a screen name. it dont matter anymore. i wasnt part of that group doing the addresses and such but it apparently doesnt matter to you. ok. well..................i would like to use theguy. i mean budd or roy or dale or tom or mile

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dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health youre kidding right this is usenet! damned thread can go on forever. true. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they would you like me to fully delurk rip the idiots a new asshole so they can call me names that would be your choicewouldnt it making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! that would be your opinion wouldnt it -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 160140 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 124804 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. why do you keep bringing your health into the discussion here is another example as tom and i have both pointed out as well as others. why does it bother you and tom if i do is there a new constitutional amendment that says i cant to explain to you its a comparison; i would miss not reading yours and toms insults no more than i would miss my health problems if they were all gone. well...................it doesnt bother me it is just that just a day ago you were accusing tom and i of being the only ones that bring it up. my point was that you are the one that brings it up and then whines like a baby about it having beenrought up. that was the point. just relax and try to follow it. you see............if you bring it up...........then it really makes you look stupid to whine about it having been brought up. and btw if youre always honest you have no need to try to be or stay honest. .

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ill put all the answers back into one reply. ill probably snip a bunch also. is that too hard for you to comprehend budd i heard what you just said but it makes no sense therefor i dont comprehend it. i suggest a remedial reading program. what difference does it make for you to know who you are arguing with do you judge peoples opinions based on whether or not you like the person that made them or based upon the content of the message what does it matter to you if i want to know who im arguing with its my choice to want to know or not. you see budd this is more proof of your serious problem of personalizing everything that goes on here or is said written. that is what causes you so much frustration. budd argue with the ideas and the words that form them. dont argue with the person. dont personalize everything. the ideas and opinions exist seperate of the person. even when that person is gone the ideas still exist. when you can seperate the pperson and the issue it is easier to listen to ideas are in conflict with your own. once again i argue as i choose to argue. i dont argue with ideas or intangibles just people. to argue with an idea is to chase rainbows. budd tom and i are not the only ones that have said this. just try it for a while and see if your life isnt more relaxed and your time on the ng more fun. if it doesnt work out you can always go back to being the way that you were. no thanks. i will be who i am. no one is forcing you to speak to me. weird or very conservative wierd. i am quite sure about that. in your opinion. i dont have any issue with conservative. yeah you do you just deny it. i have several opinions that would be seen as very conservative. but then i have several opinions that would be seen as liberal and a few that would be viewed as moderate i think. in your opinion. i decide issues on the issue. huh and you call me confusing i do not stick myself into one single philosophy. that explains your confusion. you know budd it occurs to me that we may have a whole different definition of friend and that may be a part of the issue. i use standard dictionary definitions. and you use . . . what one you dreamed up to me if we had once been friends you would know who i was. i dont walk away from friends. and if our friendship had gone bad we would know that because it would involve our personal lives. did a google search for the earliest post in this group by theguy . . .you werent a friend then either. from what i read you changed you screen name to hide your identity from . . . .who maybe i have not been fair to you in using my world to judge how you are viewing this. thats an understatement!!!! i have a lot of friends in my life. good. im glad. i hope they are the kind of friend that would die for you. i would for mine. people on this ng are not my friends. wait!!! better contact cnn!!!!! they are acqaintances all of whom seem like pretty decent people who like to get onto the internet once in a while to talk about dodge trucks and argue about whatever the prevailing topic is. all of whom like me get some fun out of doing that. but my life is not very involved in this ng so i dont see the people here as part of my family. that would be to your loss in my opinion. i suppose that if this ng is a much larger part of your life to the point that you achieve some type of personal identity out of being here then you could feel different. if your circle of friends and family is dependant on this ng then i suppose you could see this as some sort of a real social circle. there ya go making assumptions again. in that case it is easier for me to understand the soap opera that is called budd. more degrading references i still think that you would be happier and less stressed on the ng if you would be able to take the personal feelings out of the debates. maybe you need to find a stronger life outside of the ng maybe you need to keep your amature psychologist advice to yourself if you had taken more than a token course for college credit youd be making too much money listening to hypochondriacs to waste time in this group. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

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on mon 27 feb 2006 155548 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. aha and you said previously you never insult me any more you damned liar. now that was wierd. how long will it take for you to learn that each individual has the right to be offended and to choose who offends them you are just making it personal now budd probably due to your hatred. so what if i am you made it personal just a few lines ago. how do you know denny or roy would be insulted you presume too much when you speak for others. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. then you should demand your money back as well. i would say the same to you but it is more than obvious that you never attended. true i never did but not for the reason you think. i had a four year scholarship from my high school to john herron art school in indiananpolis in and went to work to care for my ailing mother instead. by the time her cancer went into remission my hands were ruined for art. btw i was the only second year high school art student in that school to ever be given a scholarship of any kind. are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. it doesnt and i never claimed it did. the whining comes from your bogus claims that people attack you based on your health which is a complete fallacy. no it isnt fallacy. then back it up for a change. why still waiting for you to back up about 250 things. second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. more complete lies but i guess if you keep repeating it to yourself and us it must be true. heres an idea budd how about you for once actually back up one of these bogus accusations. why how about you look up where ive whined as you call it . . .or will you find instead where ive responded to one of your insults please a link only i dont trust you to copy accurately. i hate to break it to you budd but you are doing it in this thread as well. i hate to break it to you but youre wrong as usual. im defending myself. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. from you there can be no jokes as far as im concerned. and you insulted me over my condition a long time before roy. not true. i made fun of your senility and incontinence long before i knew anything of your real conditions based on how old you made it seem that you were. once i found out that you were not all that old and not in the best of health i stopped. no you didnt and never will. that woulf require a modicum of respect for me as a person and you cant do it. back this lie up budd if you can. dont worry ill wait. already did. look back up a few lines.you proved my point for me again. i dont find it funny making fun of anothers actual disabilities especially growing up with a severely retarded brother. the true fact budd is that you hate me because i said and proved you wrong a few times but are not man enough to admit to it and have to resort to bogus justifications for your childish actions. link to the proof tom. ive admitt

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 154113 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. the problem is budd that it is not just my opinion it is the opinion of your friends in here as well. of course you find me offensive that is your hatred of me showing through. rotflmbo!!!! i dont hate you theres nothing to hate. . . . . . . btw my friends know they can speak for themselves. they sure dont need you to do it for them. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. what does this incorrect statement have to do with anything thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and btw this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. no need to point to a link as you just did it again lol! spin twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the internet possibly the universe . . . . it is not paranoia just intelligence. rotflmbo!!!!!! there are some in here with a sufficiently low enough noise level such as tom l and mac that can use their real names with a fair amount of safety but i am the first to admit that i am not one of them but am trying to move more toward that type but in todays world with the current level of id theft and the international level of usenet it simply is not worth the risk. the thing is budd that you really

From : tbone

on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. if you feel this way then why do you keep replying it sounds to me like you very much would miss our replies because without them you would have a hard time remaining the center of attention and would have to resort to attacking the ones you still call friends. oh wait a minute you are already doing that never mine. if you dont want to read what i have to say then as you keep saying killfile me but i bet you wont do it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 160652 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote not the point budd. everything matters to someone somewhere. i do not run my life by what matters to everyone else. no man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent. john donne we all affect others some positively. you and tom affect me negatively by your own choice it seems. no it is by your choice budd. the affect that anyone has on you is entirely your choice. now i do agree that our affect on you is negative but the problem is that we dont try. you just personalize everything either of us says and then get into a huff about it. that is your choice. you say a fair amount of negative stuff about me and tom. as for me you are free to say whatever you would like and i will put the appropriate amount of importance on it. doesnt bother me budd. it is your choice budd. you seem to have a great deal of trouble getting your head around this choice thing. thge choice is how you control your own actions not those of others. it is really the only choice that you have but you have to accept responsiblity first and that is going to be difficult when you are blaming your actions on other people. fwiw when i first came here many years ago i did use my real name and email address. then a couple people on this ng got into a heated fight imagine that and started sending some pretty nasty emails to each others homes posting each others home addresses and the like. it was several of the regulars here that commented about how stupid it was to use your real name and email address. it made sense to me back then. anyway if it makes you all more comfortable i can post using my real first name but it is still just a label same as theguy. makes no difference to me. i imagine it wouldnt to budd either but it would take away one more thing that he has to constantly complain about. tell you what just post with what ever you want for a screen name. it dont matter anymore. i wasnt part of that group doing the addresses and such but it apparently doesnt matter to you. ok. well..................i would like to use theguy. i mean budd or roy or dale or tom or miles or nate................those would have all been my first choice but they were taken already. besides i have been called much worse bg. arent you glad i dont use such language -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : tbone

nope but you are. ok and you keep lying about it. childish. yea you are but i tried to refrain from saying it. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. really what is maxs full name. the same as its been since his birth as far as i know. that is not what i asked but you knew that didnt you. hes posted it and still does occasionally. really then he shouldnt mind you saying it should he but hey just supply a link to where he did. i bet you cant and if not then you are once again full of shit and a liar. and your unproven point is read above and btw even you son does not use his real name. why is that budd dont know for sure. it is his decision to do so being 27 years old of course but unlike you he doesnt panic and threaten lawsuits if his name gets posted. well you should he is your son and you seem to have a real problem when people dont or is it only the people that you dont like and your unproven point is your level of denial does not make my point unproven it just makes you look stubborn and ignorant. what makes it sad is that you are doing it for the whole world to see but i guess that if you have no pride and nothing to lose.... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. the problem is budd that it is not just my opinion it is the opinion of your friends in here as well. of course you find me offensive that is your hatred of me showing through. rotflmbo!!!! i dont hate you theres nothing to hate. . . . . . . lol and everything else you say says different. it is ok for friends to say what they want but not me or theguy. you didnt say not anyone else you named us specifically. the funny thing is not all that long ago you were calling theguy a friend. what happened budd do you even know what a friend is beyond the dictionary definition btw my friends know they can speak for themselves. they sure dont need you to do it for them. i am doing no such thing. they are speaking for themselves and in this thread. you are just in too deep a level of denial to see it. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. what does this incorrect statement have to do with anything thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and btw this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. no need to point to a link as you just did it again lol! spin twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know sorry budd there is no spin or twist here and the only denial is comming from you! 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the int

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 27 feb 2006 154113 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom rotflmbo!!!!!!! thou fool! jesus of nazareth circa 30 a.d. do you really believe that id theives strike only those with something to lose now you are quoting the bible to support an argument on a ng with a guy named tbone. ok budd that is perfectly normal perfectly healthy. not. according to an unaccredited amateur psychologist. the quote fit the point being made so you object to the source and you claim to have never bashed my religious beliefs. thou viper!!! hypocrite!!!!!! jesus of nazareth book of matthew holy bible -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 27 feb 2006 155548 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. aha and you said previously you never insult me any more you damned liar. now that was wierd. no he made a vicious insult. unfortunately it requires a modicum of social skills to recognize it ... skills you lack apparently. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mac davis

on mon 27 feb 2006 122220 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote snip why is it the woman that always does good with a diet sue is the same way can drop 15 pounds in a couple of weeks. i tell her it is because she is younger. there is that too.. shes 12 years younger than i am.. *g* it was mainly motivation though and her refusal to go the surgery route thats so popular here... i think she just got to a point where she was ready to lose the weight and committed to it.. i wish i had that much willpower you are right about the exercise bro. this morning it was 5 above and with the wind chill about 20 below. will be the same when i get into work tonight. i aint going for a walk.g actually that is the reason i want out of here and to fl when i retire. if you dont join a gym you are limited to what you can do 5-6 months of the year. roy thats part of our equation also.. we hope to have the house in baja finished in 6 months and retire there a year after that... well retirement for her ill still do my web and wood stuff we walked this morning before she went to work.. 38 degrees and raining.. yuk.. its year round walk the neighborhood weather there and we want to be in shape to do it.. and enjoy it.. especially the 3 mile walk to the beach an cantina.. *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : tbone

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. aha and you said previously you never insult me any more you damned liar. lol it was a gentile tease and you call it an insult. anything to support your weak argument i guess. how long will it take for you to learn that each individual has the right to be offended and to choose who offends them you are just making it personal now budd probably due to your hatred. so what if i am you made it personal just a few lines ago. how do you know denny or roy would be insulted you presume too much when you speak for others. get a life budd. a simple low key tease is hardly making anything personal. as for knowing if they would be insulted i cannot speak for denny but simply going by roys vain attempts to get you to act reasonably and like an adult in the past few threads i think that he would be insulted if someone accused him of acting just like you are right now. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. then you should demand your money back as well. i would say the same to you but it is more than obvious that you never attended. true i never did but not for the reason you think. how do you know what i think are you a mind reader now i had a four year scholarship from my high school to john herron art school in indiananpolis in and went to work to care for my ailing mother instead. by the time her cancer went into remission my hands were ruined for art. sounds like another reason to blame something other than yourself for your failures. taking care of your mother was the right thing to do but i doubt that it ruined your hands for art. talented artists can paint with their teeth if they have to. btw i was the only second year high school art student in that school to ever be given a scholarship of any kind. then why didnt you really take it or pursue it after are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. it doesnt and i never claimed it did. the whining comes from your bogus claims that people attack you based on your health which is a complete fallacy. no it isnt fallacy. then back it up for a change. why still waiting for you to back up about 250 things. that is not a reason budd just another lame excuse not to do something. how about you name 10 of these things. second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. more complete lies but i guess if you keep repeating it to yourself and us it must be true. heres an idea budd how about you for once actually back up one of these bogus accusations. why how about you look up where ive whined as you call it . . .or will you find instead where ive responded to one of your insults please a link only i dont trust you to copy accurately. i hate to break it to you budd but you are doing it in this thread as well. i hate to break it to you but youre wrong as usual. im defending myself. you can redefine whining as defending if you wish but it really doesnt change anything. i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this lol sorry budd but you need to keep those that you accuse in order. i am not the one who accused you of this that would be roy in the union thread and he was 100% correct about it. as for what i will do with this nothing at all. it was a simple joke and an old one at that along with the bfg to indicate thats all it was. if you want to act like a baby about it go ahead i cant stop you. from you there can

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 180707 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ill put all the answers back into one reply. ill probably snip a bunch also. is that too hard for you to comprehend budd i heard what you just said but it makes no sense therefor i dont comprehend it. i suggest a remedial reading program. what difference does it make for you to know who you are arguing with do you judge peoples opinions based on whether or not you like the person that made them or based upon the content of the message what does it matter to you if i want to know who im arguing with its my choice to want to know or not. bad use of the concept of choice. if you play it this way then it is equally true that it is my choice as to whether to say or not. that makes a stalemate budd and not a solution. anyway your curiosity has nothing to do with choice. choice is a concept not a rule. you see budd this is more proof of your serious problem of personalizing everything that goes on here or is said written. that is what causes you so much frustration. budd argue with the ideas and the words that form them. dont argue with the person. dont personalize everything. the ideas and opinions exist seperate of the person. even when that person is gone the ideas still exist. when you can seperate the pperson and the issue it is easier to listen to ideas are in conflict with your own. once again i argue as i choose to argue. i dont argue with ideas or intangibles just people. to argue with an idea is to chase rainbows. and to argue with people is an incredibly dishonest philosophy. to argue with people is all about control. to argue with ideas is all about exploration of the truth. budd tom and i are not the only ones that have said this. just try it for a while and see if your life isnt more relaxed and your time on the ng more fun. if it doesnt work out you can always go back to being the way that you were. no thanks. i will be who i am. no one is forcing you to speak to me. i know. i honestly am trying to get through to you. i hope that you will stop and think at some point. i guess i am an optimist bfg weird or very conservative wierd. i am quite sure about that. in your opinion. come on budd that goes without saying. it is all our opinions. your mine and everyone elses. some are formed more from free thought than others. some are based more on bias than others. but never the less they are all opinions. i dont have any issue with conservative. yeah you do you just deny it. how do you know that budd i mean how do you really know that you dont because as you have said you dont know me. this is nothing more than you lashing out and saying something again that is not supported in fact. that is what i have been saying. i have several opinions that would be seen as very conservative. but then i have several opinions that would be seen as liberal and a few that would be viewed as moderate i think. in your opinion. yes again. i decide issues on the issue. huh and you call me confusing i do not stick myself into one single philosophy. that explains your confusion. yes consistancy the tool of weak minds. you know budd it occurs to me that we may have a whole different definition of friend and that may be a part of the issue. i use standard dictionary definitions. and you use . . . what one you dreamed up to me if we had once been friends you would know who i was. i dont walk away from friends. and if our friendship had gone bad we would know that because it would involve our personal lives. did a google search for the earliest post in this group by theguy . . .you werent a friend then either. from what i read you changed you screen name to hide your identity from . . . .who maybe i have not been fair to you in using my world to judge how you are viewing this. thats an understatement!!!! i have a lot of friends in my life. good. im glad. i hope they are the kind of friend that would die for you. i would for mine. why do you define friends in this way why do you jump right into a definition that is so sensationalized so extreme that it makes the whole discussion disgusting people on this ng are not my friends. wait!!! better contact cnn!!!!! they are acqaintances all of whom seem like pretty decent people who like to get onto the internet once in a while to talk about dodge trucks and argue about whatever the prevailing topic is. all of whom like me get some fun out of doing that. but my life is not very involved in this ng so i dont see the people here as part of my family. that would be to your loss in my opinion. i suppose that if this ng is a much larger part of your life to the point that you achieve some type of personal identity out of being here then you could feel different. if your circle of friends a

From : tbone

on mon 27 feb 2006 154113 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. the problem is budd that it is not just my opinion it is the opinion of your friends in here as well. of course you find me offensive that is your hatred of me showing through. rotflmbo!!!! i dont hate you theres nothing to hate. . . . . . . btw my friends know they can speak for themselves. they sure dont need you to do it for them. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. what does this incorrect statement have to do with anything thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and btw this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. no need to point to a link as you just did it again lol! spin twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you getting the picture yet gee mr nobody since you refuse to identify yourself thats who you are to me nobody shove it someplace dark and smelly. i know very well what this group is. do you do you realize the scope of every insult you make towards me on an international scale lol! the sad thing here budd is that your childish whining is also on a international scale. your paranoia about your name has exceeded the limits of the internet possibly the universe . . . . it is not paranoia just intelligence. rotflmbo!!!!!! there are some in here with a sufficiently low enough noise level such as tom l and mac that can use their real names with a fair amount of safety but i am the first to admit that i am not one of them but am trying to move more toward that type but in todays world with the current level of id theft and the international level of usenet it simply is not worth the risk. the thing

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on sat 25 feb 2006 180954 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dont worry budd you dont have to look for them they are all behind you. bfg ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28 dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health oh for crying out loud. he makes a joke one that anyone else here would have laughed about...........except you. one that anyone else here wouldnt have whined about like a baby..........except you. which proves i am not everyone else. i have the right to be offended. sure you do but in this case you are just looking for attention and making a fool out of yourself doing it this way. in your bigoted opinion. actually i find you extremely offensive. an anti-social cur to be exact. the problem is budd that it is not just my opinion it is the opinion of your friends in here as well. of course you find me offensive that is your hatred of me showing through. rotflmbo!!!! i dont hate you theres nothing to hate. . . . . . . lol and everything else you say says different. it is ok for friends to say what they want but not me or theguy. im sorry what part of youre not a friend so leave me alone dont you understand do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world can i not do the same in a virtual world you didnt say not anyone else you named us specifically. yes that is true. like i said there is nothing to hate. you are insignificant. the funny thing is not all that long ago you were calling theguy a friend. what happened budd things change. he stepped over as line. do you even know what a friend is beyond the dictionary definition do you btw my friends know they can speak for themselves. they sure dont need you to do it for them. i am doing no such thing. they are speaking for themselves and in this thread. you are just in too deep a level of denial to see it. then how was it that i conversed with them on the topics hmm you missed that part quite well. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd i have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about when you whine about people making fun of your health and that type of shit. ah you have short medium and long term memory problems. but never the less if you dont want it discussed or mentioned two pieces of advise for you take your advice and shove it. 1. quit talking about it. you seem to be the only one that brings it up. you seem to be the only one that even notices the fucking issue. you do it you bring it up you discuss it and then you whine about it being brought up. no brainer here. stop bringing it up. you could not be more stupid budd. i only mention it when one of you two decide to start with the insults. that you are in denial of your guilt is obvious. there is a big difference between insults and joking budd. the only one talking about your health for years is you. ah yes i forget you never are in error. what does this incorrect statement have to do with anything thats why whenever anyone points out your errors you attack them personally. in my case you attack my health. btw those attacks as far as im concerned are insults. once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and btw this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. no need to point to a link as you just did it again lol! spin twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know sorry budd there is no spin or twist here and the only denial is comming from you! in your bigoted opinion. 2. stop bringing it up on a public group. do you realise that anyone can read the shit posted here has that ever occurred to you it is a public group budd. think about that. no password required to get on. you bring it up in a public group it is pretty much fair game. you brought it up. you make it an issue. you

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 213113 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 154113 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom rotflmbo!!!!!!! thou fool! jesus of nazareth circa 30 a.d. do you really believe that id theives strike only those with something to lose now you are quoting the bible to support an argument on a ng with a guy named tbone. ok budd that is perfectly normal perfectly healthy. not. according to an unaccredited amateur psychologist. the quote fit the point being made so you object to the source and you claim to have never bashed my religious beliefs. thou viper!!! hypocrite!!!!!! jesus of nazareth book of matthew holy bible budd thank you. i have not had this good a laugh in this ng for a long time. wow! .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 212609 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i dont hate you theres nothing to hate. . . . . . . lol and everything else you say says different. it is ok for friends to say what they want but not me or theguy. im sorry what part of youre not a friend so leave me alone dont you understand do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world can i not do the same in a virtual world stop reading what he writes then. it is very simple. you run around reading every post he writes then scream for him to leave you alone. now i dont care who you are that is funny. you didnt say not anyone else you named us specifically. yes that is true. like i said there is nothing to hate. you are insignificant. the funny thing is not all that long ago you were calling theguy a friend. what happened budd things change. he stepped over as line. darn. i tried to walk the line. i really did. i tried to speak to you with some good advise while walking the line. speaking of that i love johny cash and cant wait to see that movie. do you even know what a friend is beyond the dictionary definition do you spin twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know sorry budd there is no spin or twist here and the only denial is comming from you! in your bigoted opinion. holy cow. coming from almost anyone but you i could understand. but man them is fightin words considering the source. just kiddin not actually fighting words but they are very funny. rotflmbo!!!!!! is this the laugh of ignorance i see no just laughing heartily at a small joke. that is good. laughter is good. most of the time. there are some in here with a sufficiently low enough noise level such as tom l and mac that can use their real names with a fair amount of safety but i am the first to admit that i am not one of them but am trying to move more toward that type but in todays world with the current level of id theft and the international level of usenet it simply is not worth the risk. the thing is budd that you really have nothing to lose but i and many others do. rotflmbo!!!!!!! thou fool! jesus of nazareth circa 30 a.d. do you really believe that id theives strike only those with something to lose of course not talk about twist and spin. the difference is that if you dont have much to lose there is not much risk either. id still like to know how you know my total worth. might be a legal issue. uh oh budd is talking l e g a l i t y again. look out if he doesnt have you arrested for his definition of internet harassment he is gonna sue you for figuring out that he dont have a pot to piss in. just kiddin again budd. i am at as much risk as anybody but a little internet invesrtigation shows it to be far less rampant than you fear. for identity theft maybe. that would depend on what they were after now wouldnt it and here comes the denial since it is far more wide spread than you would care to believe. prime reason for id theft money. that outweighs the rest by several times. true. normally to buy drugs...........they sort of go hand in hand with those folks.........but i would agree that it is money. my bank gets notified if im leaving town or making a large purchase and will be using a debit card. the credit card companys get the same notification. its easy and it protects me. everything else is replaceable / repairable. btw your phrasing once again says you consider yourself to be better than me. id also like to know how you know how much i have. maybe youre an id thief . . . . . . once again your paranoia strikes again along with the false accusations. i dont know how much you have other than what you have said many times in this international ng. perhaps you have a lot of money packed away somewhere and i hope that you do for your sake alone. the point is tom your phrasing could get you in deep legal trouble. the point is that you are literally blowing wind out your ass. this is beyond stupid. it is beyond a normal udd exageration. what he said would not get him in an once of trouble. in fact put up this time. go see an attorney. lets see you sue.. better yet call the internet cops and show them the thread. tell them to haul tom off to the jail. i want to see this one. you keep going in deeper and deeper. gads. besides your legal name is as well known as your screen name. if you are going to be struck again it will happen. youre too well known. so the paranoia would be yours. dont have define anything your phrasing is rank with it today. like i said you cant and there are still no examples imagine that. like i said you keep writing fresh ones i dont need to. im sure theyll continue as long as you post anything regarding me. fair game to whom it woild only be fair game to those that take de

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. aha and you said previously you never insult me any more you damned liar. lol it was a gentile tease and you call it an insult. anything to support your weak argument i guess. no since you are not a friend as you keep forgetting i do not consider your childish commets to be teases only insults. how long will it take for you to learn that each individual has the right to be offended and to choose who offends them you are just making it personal now budd probably due to your hatred. so what if i am you made it personal just a few lines ago. how do you know denny or roy would be insulted you presume too much when you speak for others. get a life budd. a simple low key tease is hardly making anything personal. why because you say so who are you to tell me how to respond to your insults i will respond as i will. as for knowing if they would be insulted i cannot speak for denny but simply going by roys vain attempts to get you to act reasonably and like an adult in the past few threads i think that he would be insulted if someone accused him of acting just like you are right now. that would be their choice to make as it is mine to make about your insults. from what ive seen you have insulted them as well in the past but that would be my viewpoint and not necessarily theirs.. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. then you should demand your money back as well. i would say the same to you but it is more than obvious that you never attended. true i never did but not for the reason you think. how do you know what i think are you a mind reader now funny you sure think you know how i should think. . . . .dont you i had a four year scholarship from my high school to john herron art school in indiananpolis in and went to work to care for my ailing mother instead. by the time her cancer went into remission my hands were ruined for art. sounds like another reason to blame something other than yourself for your failures. it would to you. taking care of your mother was the right thing to do but i doubt that it ruined your hands for art. talented artists can paint with their teeth if they have to. here again you make assumptions stupid assumptions. btw i was the only second year high school art student in that school to ever be given a scholarship of any kind. then why didnt you really take it or pursue it after you really have a short term memory problem dont you are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health first of all how would a report on successful weight loss ever be considered as whining im still trying to figure out how reporting my current state of health to friends or how a physical condition limits me is whining. it doesnt and i never claimed it did. the whining comes from your bogus claims that people attack you based on your health which is a complete fallacy. no it isnt fallacy. then back it up for a change. why still waiting for you to back up about 250 things. that is not a reason budd just another lame excuse not to do something. how about you name 10 of these things. i have in the past few threads and then some. oh forgot your short term memory problems . . . . second it was not me who accused you of doing that although it is true that you do and every chance that you get like right now. it was you but youre memory is once again selective. more complete lies but i guess if you keep repeating it to yourself and us it must be true. heres an idea budd how about you for once actually back up one of these bogus accusations. why how about you look up where ive whined as you call it . . .or will you find instead where ive responded to one of your insults please a link only i dont trust you to copy accurately. i hate to break it to you budd but you are doing it in this thread as well.

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 215001 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote be offended and to choose who offends them you are just making it personal now budd probably due to your hatred. so what if i am you made it personal just a few lines ago. how do you know denny or roy would be insulted you presume too much when you speak for others. get a life budd. a simple low key tease is hardly making anything personal. why because you say so who are you to tell me how to respond to your insults i will respond as i will. yes you will. as only you can. .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 215706 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. if you feel this way then why do you keep replying it sounds to me like you very much would miss our replies because without them you would have a hard time remaining the center of attention and would have to resort to attacking the ones you still call friends. oh wait a minute you are already doing that never mine. if you dont want to read what i have to say then as you keep saying killfile me but i bet you wont do it. why do you two think i want or need your advice about my health my religion or anything because you are too stubborn to stop listen and take some decent advise. and that is putting it as nicely as i am able to. i reply because i see a need to defend my position on these matters. stop telling me what to say believe how to live or vote and i will have nothing to reply to will i .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 27 feb 2006 160140 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 124804 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. why do you keep bringing your health into the discussion here is another example as tom and i have both pointed out as well as others. why does it bother you and tom if i do is there a new constitutional amendment that says i cant to explain to you its a comparison; i would miss not reading yours and toms insults no more than i would miss my health problems if they were all gone. well...................it doesnt bother me it is just that just a day ago you were accusing tom and i of being the only ones that bring it up. and you have repeatedly. my point was that you are the one that brings it up and then whines like a baby about it having beenrought up. no i may mention a health situation to my friends but you and tom call it whining. that was the point. just relax and try to follow it. you see............if you bring it up...........then it really makes you look stupid to whine about it having been brought up. it makes you really look intolerant to call a casual mention of a health related item whining then continue with all the advice about my having mentioned it. dont read the post if you dont like it. and certainly dont give me any of your advice. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 213347 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. aha and you said previously you never insult me any more you damned liar. now that was wierd. no he made a vicious insult. unfortunately it requires a modicum of social skills to recognize it ... skills you lack apparently. a vicious insult huh. well he is pretty naughty. of course the fact that you then with such excellent indignation at the vicious insult directed at you proceded to follow that up with a visious insult directed at me should be ignored. because if we dont ignore that then the hypocracy of your post would be so very evident that it would make your persona much too clear. -- budd cochran .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. if you feel this way then why do you keep replying it sounds to me like you very much would miss our replies because without them you would have a hard time remaining the center of attention and would have to resort to attacking the ones you still call friends. oh wait a minute you are already doing that never mine. if you dont want to read what i have to say then as you keep saying killfile me but i bet you wont do it. why do you two think i want or need your advice about my health my religion or anything i reply because i see a need to defend my position on these matters. stop telling me what to say believe how to live or vote and i will have nothing to reply to will i -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 215437 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 160140 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 124804 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. why do you keep bringing your health into the discussion here is another example as tom and i have both pointed out as well as others. why does it bother you and tom if i do is there a new constitutional amendment that says i cant to explain to you its a comparison; i would miss not reading yours and toms insults no more than i would miss my health problems if they were all gone. well...................it doesnt bother me it is just that just a day ago you were accusing tom and i of being the only ones that bring it up. and you have repeatedly. my point was that you are the one that brings it up and then whines like a baby about it having beenrought up. no i may mention a health situation to my friends but you and tom call it whining. that was the point. just relax and try to follow it. you see............if you bring it up...........then it really makes you look stupid to whine about it having been brought up. it makes you really look intolerant to call a casual mention of a health related item whining then continue with all the advice about my having mentioned it. dont read the post if you dont like it. and certainly dont give me any of your advice. lmao. thats all. just lmao. stop please. your killing me. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 27 feb 2006 160652 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote not the point budd. everything matters to someone somewhere. i do not run my life by what matters to everyone else. no man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent. john donne we all affect others some positively. you and tom affect me negatively by your own choice it seems. no it is by your choice budd. im sorry did i hold a gun to your head and force you to advise me the affect that anyone has on you is entirely your choice. agreed. ive made my choice and so have you. mines more socially involved as i react to persons not pixels. now i do agree that our affect on you is negative but the problem is that we dont try. thank you for not trying. you just personalize everything either of us says and then get into a huff about it. that is your choice. i agree you stick your nose in then expect me to follow your advice. you say a fair amount of negative stuff about me and tom. yep but one difference i do it after you start trying to give unrequested advice or telling me how to live. as for me you are free to say whatever you would like and i will put the appropriate amount of importance on it. doesnt bother me budd. it is your choice budd. you seem to have a great deal of trouble getting your head around this choice thing. no that would be you two as my choices are unacceptable to you. hence your need to correct me. thge choice is how you control your own actions not those of others. it is really the only choice that you have but you have to accept responsiblity first and that is going to be difficult when you are blaming your actions on other people. i blame you two for only those things you have done to me none of which you have fully admitted to...but you did try to dance around the issues. fwiw when i first came here many years ago i did use my real name and email address. then a couple people on this ng got into a heated fight imagine that and started sending some pretty nasty emails to each others homes posting each others home addresses and the like. it was several of the regulars here that commented about how stupid it was to use your real name and email address. it made sense to me back then. anyway if it makes you all more comfortable i can post using my real first name but it is still just a label same as theguy. makes no difference to me. i imagine it wouldnt to budd either but it would take away one more thing that he has to constantly complain about. tell you what just post with what ever you want for a screen name. it dont matter anymore. i wasnt part of that group doing the addresses and such but it apparently doesnt matter to you. ok. well..................i would like to use theguy. i mean budd or roy or dale or tom or miles or nate................those would have all been my first choice but they were taken already. besides i have been called much worse bg. arent you glad i dont use such language -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : roy

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg yea i know but mac is kind of mellow compared to the two of you mellow roll me some of whatever yer smokin vbg although i can see that a high degree of respect is maintained. kinda been there done that deal. it is in the eyes. it is similar to the things said between me and my friends and is quite entertaining to read. humor is always good. how is the leg doing a month and 1/2 out and the swelling is down but there is still some inflamation around some of the tendons. not the leg but the ankle. doc says im to old to be dropping 600 pound atvs on it and expect it to heal in a week or two. hes right this sucks. but i managed to put 10 miles on it this weekend. i just wrap the hell out of the ankle and lace it real tight. roy .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

nope but you are. ok and you keep lying about it. childish. yea you are but i tried to refrain from saying it. im surprised you had the self-control. whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. really what is maxs full name. the same as its been since his birth as far as i know. that is not what i asked but you knew that didnt you. hes posted it and still does occasionally. really then he shouldnt mind you saying it should he but hey just supply a link to where he did. i bet you cant and if not then you are once again full of shit and a liar. no i would need his permission to do so according to your rules. see im playing your rules and you dont like it hypocrite. and your unproven point is read above and btw even you son does not use his real name. why is that budd dont know for sure. it is his decision to do so being 27 years old of course but unlike you he doesnt panic and threaten lawsuits if his name gets posted. well you should he is your son and you seem to have a real problem when people dont or is it only the people that you dont like im sorry what part of adulthood dont you understand all of it my son is an adult and if i do say so myself far more mature than either of you. and your unproven point is your level of denial does not make my point unproven it just makes you look stubborn and ignorant. look at you own denials tom. you cant see the forest for the trees. what makes it sad is that you are doing it for the whole world to see but i guess that if you have no pride and nothing to lose.... that is one major difference between us tom i am not prideful. i have succeeded in many things including four businesses but i dont worry about what anyone thinks oif them. they like my health issues are only facts and truths about the human being called charles l. budd cochran. youre taking pride in something you posses and now youre panicky about someone stealing it. i would give what i have to someone in need even to where i would have to start all over. keep what you have tom take lots of pride in it but it wont save you. legend has it that a passenger on the titanic tried to take several pounds of gold and jewelry with them when the ship sank. and in reality they did take it with them to the bottom of the sea. . . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 27 feb 2006 180707 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ill put all the answers back into one reply. ill probably snip a bunch also. is that too hard for you to comprehend budd i heard what you just said but it makes no sense therefor i dont comprehend it. i suggest a remedial reading program. what difference does it make for you to know who you are arguing with do you judge peoples opinions based on whether or not you like the person that made them or based upon the content of the message what does it matter to you if i want to know who im arguing with its my choice to want to know or not. bad use of the concept of choice. no doubt. if you play it this way then it is equally true that it is my choice as to whether to say or not. no argument with that but the request offered you a chance to let me know privately via a working email address in the post either your name or the reason. instead you got all defensive in public . .another bad choice on your part. that makes a stalemate budd and not a solution. anyway your curiosity has nothing to do with choice. choice is a concept not a rule. choice is a concious definitive decision not a concept. you see budd this is more proof of your serious problem of personalizing everything that goes on here or is said written. that is what causes you so much frustration. budd argue with the ideas and the words that form them. dont argue with the person. dont personalize everything. the ideas and opinions exist seperate of the person. even when that person is gone the ideas still exist. when you can seperate the pperson and the issue it is easier to listen to ideas are in conflict with your own. once again i argue as i choose to argue. i dont argue with ideas or intangibles just people. to argue with an idea is to chase rainbows. and to argue with people is an incredibly dishonest philosophy. no its human nature. do you argue with soda machines do you argue with the spirit realm to argue with people is all about control. aha!!!!!! now you face the truth that you argue with me and give unrequested advice to exert control. to argue with ideas is all about exploration of the truth. truth is an absolute truth is truth. budd tom and i are not the only ones that have said this. just try it for a while and see if your life isnt more relaxed and your time on the ng more fun. if it doesnt work out you can always go back to being the way that you were. no thanks. i will be who i am. no one is forcing you to speak to me. i know. i honestly am trying to get through to you. i hope that you will stop and think at some point. i guess i am an optimist bfg no youre a manipulative overbearing control seeking ass that thinks i should jump when you holler frog. you got thru to me a long time ago looking at old posts . . . and i refused it then i refuse it now. give up. weird or very conservative wierd. i am quite sure about that. in your opinion. come on budd that goes without saying. it is all our opinions. your mine and everyone elses. some are formed more from free thought than others. some are based more on bias than others. but never the less they are all opinions. gee opinions you accept are all hunky-dory personal opinoions that differ are to be corrected mighty communistic of you. i dont have any issue with conservative. yeah you do you just deny it. how do you know that budd i mean how do you really know that duh!!! how about the issues you have with my non-conforming-to-your-standards you dont because as you have said you dont know me. no longer have any desire to either. this is nothing more than you lashing out and saying something again that is not supported in fact. that is what i have been saying. the trouble is you wont admit you dont know me. instead you make assumptions then tell me how i should act say or respond to you and tom. well give up. it aint workin. i have several opinions that would be seen as very conservative. but then i have several opinions that would be seen as liberal and a few that would be viewed as moderate i think. in your opinion. yes again. i decide issues on the issue. huh and you call me confusing i do not stick myself into one single philosophy. that explains your confusion. yes consistancy the tool of weak minds. how many books have you written copy wrighted and published have you ever beat a professional artist with a few pieces of your high school work how many skills have you developed so as to give yourself the opportunity to teach your children how to think outside the box how many things in your life that you dreamed of doing have you ever done you know budd it occurs to me that we may have a whole different definition of friend and that may be a part of the issue. i use standar

From : mike

dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health youre kidding right this is usenet! damned thread can go on forever. true. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they would you like me to fully delurk rip the idiots a new asshole so they can call me names that would be your choicewouldnt it yes it would but i already know the consequences if i do. making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! that would be your opinion wouldnt it youre real talkative all of a sudden. understand im not badgering you. ive lurked here since 02 when i bought my first durango. ive been posting to groups since 97. im already familiar with the trolls here. youre not one of them. im just saying you should chill out. assholes are allowed to make goodhearted jokes too. btw i like your weight loss program but i have you beat. i lost 90 lbs. without batting an eyelash. i was diagnosed with esophageal cancer dec 04. i was operated on and finished my chemo and radiation by may 05. i started out at 210 and im currently up to 165 after being down as low as 120. im 49. now i posted this personal information because i feel if someone here feels theyre brave enough to attack me with this they may just have to deal with it themselves. simple eh -- some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. .

From : mike

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale i was raised on the greats of comedy; red skelton joe e. brown milton berle and the like. much of what passes for comedy today isnt at all funny to me. i find it degrading and too sexually explicit. i dont care for the three stooges either. i also prefer science fiction and action adventures movies. one recent favorite was adapted from a book by a favorite author clive cussler. sahara is considerably different than the book yet kept the basic story line. clive was the advisor for this film unlike with his other book raise the titanic where he had no influence and the story was chopped to shreds. another series of books id like to see made into films but the author has set down specific rules about their filming is the dragons of pern series by anne mccaffery. budd see budd you really do have some redeeming qualities. i agree with everything you posted except the three stooges. you have to be a bitch-in-heat not to like them. do you wear dresses when no ones looking - -- some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. .

From : theguy

on mon 27 feb 2006 224151 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote once again i argue as i choose to argue. i dont argue with ideas or intangibles just people. to argue with an idea is to chase rainbows. and to argue with people is an incredibly dishonest philosophy. no its human nature. arguable but maybe to you that is true. do you argue with soda machines do you argue with the spirit realm you can not be this stupid. i was pretty clear about what i meant and i hope that you got it. if you didnt...........well.........you are an idiot. i mean that literally. to argue with people is all about control. aha!!!!!! now you face the truth that you argue with me and give unrequested advice to exert control. to argue with ideas is all about exploration of the truth. truth is an absolute truth is truth. there are absolute truths budd. that is true but what starts so many arguments is that we humans see it as perceptual. budd tom and i are not the only ones that have said this. just try it for a while and see if your life isnt more relaxed and your time on the ng more fun. if it doesnt work out you can always go back to being the way that you were. no thanks. i will be who i am. no one is forcing you to speak to me. i know. i honestly am trying to get through to you. i hope that you will stop and think at some point. i guess i am an optimist bfg no youre a manipulative overbearing control seeking ass that thinks i should jump when you holler frog. you got thru to me a long time ago looking at old posts . . . and i refused it then i refuse it now. give up. weird or very conservative wierd. i am quite sure about that. in your opinion. come on budd that goes without saying. it is all our opinions. your mine and everyone elses. some are formed more from free thought than others. some are based more on bias than others. but never the less they are all opinions. gee opinions you accept are all hunky-dory personal opinoions that differ are to be corrected mighty communistic of you. i dont have any issue with conservative. yeah you do you just deny it. how do you know that budd i mean how do you really know that duh!!! how about the issues you have with my non-conforming-to-your-standards you dont because as you have said you dont know me. no longer have any desire to either. this is nothing more than you lashing out and saying something again that is not supported in fact. that is what i have been saying. the trouble is you wont admit you dont know me. instead you make assumptions then tell me how i should act say or respond to you and tom. well give up. it aint workin. i too have come to this conclusion. in spite of everyone that has posted in this thread telling you to relax and look at things differently you continue to be an asshole. i honestly started out trying to get your attention to give you what i honestly thought was some advise that could help you out. as you said no man is island. and this would be in context rather than the way that you said it. anyway it has denegrated to nothing more than childish stuff as all threads where you get your feelings hurt do. while you do that to yourself it was never my intent to go there. so i am done with it. go ahead and be an asshole budd. it seems to make you happy. goodnight. .

From : mac davis

on mon 27 feb 2006 122030 -0800 theguy theguy@notebook.com wrote snip ok. well..................i would like to use theguy. i mean budd or roy or dale or tom or miles or nate................those would have all been my first choice but they were taken already. besides i have been called much worse bg. damn.. he never even considered mac in my aohell days i was maconpc mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on tue 28 feb 2006 011013 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote you really need to get you accusations in order. and you just need to admit to the truth. and what would that be budd the real truth or your imagined one i guess it would be too obvious if i suggested that budd is loving this as much as you and theguy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on mon 27 feb 2006 212609 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote im sorry what part of youre not a friend so leave me alone dont you understand do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world can i not do the same in a virtual world hint read what you just said.... try choosing not to speak to them budd.. it might even make you appear a bit more rational... if people bother you kill file or block them or just dont read their posts... or you can continue having these silly tantrums in public and continue embarrassing yourself... and those of us that are embarrassed for you.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on mon 27 feb 2006 213113 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote now you are quoting the bible to support an argument on a ng with a guy named tbone. ok budd that is perfectly normal perfectly healthy. not. according to an unaccredited amateur psychologist. the quote fit the point being made so you object to the source and you claim to have never bashed my religious beliefs. thou viper!!! hypocrite!!!!!! jesus of nazareth book of matthew holy bible wow... now commenting that you quoted the bible is bashing your religious beliefs this might break a previous record... what are you going to find offensive next budd.. the type font he uses youre not paranoid budd... the world is out to get you... *roflmbo* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

on mon 27 feb 2006 122220 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote snip why is it the woman that always does good with a diet sue is the same way can drop 15 pounds in a couple of weeks. i tell her it is because she is younger. there is that too.. shes 12 years younger than i am.. *g* that age difference wasnt a big deal when we went into this. but now out the other side it can be a bit troublesome. it was mainly motivation though and her refusal to go the surgery route thats so popular here... i think she just got to a point where she was ready to lose the weight and committed to it.. i wish i had that much willpower you are right about the exercise bro. this morning it was 5 above and with the wind chill about 20 below. will be the same when i get into work tonight. i aint going for a walk.g actually that is the reason i want out of here and to fl when i retire. if you dont join a gym you are limited to what you can do 5-6 months of the year. roy thats part of our equation also.. we hope to have the house in baja finished in 6 months and retire there a year after that... well retirement for her ill still do my web and wood stuff we walked this morning before she went to work.. 38 degrees and raining.. yuk.. im totally into a move to fl at this point. wind chill was 10 below at work yesterday and this morning when i would have liked to go out for a walk it was 15 above. hell i had to through the dog out and shes built for this weather. its year round walk the neighborhood weather there and we want to be in shape to do it.. and enjoy it.. especially the 3 mile walk to the beach an cantina.. *g* well bro seems we are on pretty much the same page only on different coasts.g oh id be remiss if i didnt comment on the number of posts by you this morning. xtra coffee purple hazebfg roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale i was raised on the greats of comedy; red skelton joe e. brown milton berle and the like. much of what passes for comedy today isnt at all funny to me. i find it degrading and too sexually explicit. i dont care for the three stooges either. i also prefer science fiction and action adventures movies. one recent favorite was adapted from a book by a favorite author clive cussler. sahara is considerably different than the book yet kept the basic story line. clive was the advisor for this film unlike with his other book raise the titanic where he had no influence and the story was chopped to shreds. another series of books id like to see made into films but the author has set down specific rules about their filming is the dragons of pern series by anne mccaffery. budd see budd you really do have some redeeming qualities. i agree with everything you posted except the three stooges. you have to be a bitch-in-heat not to like them. do you wear dresses when no ones looking - now thatd a picture!! bfg roy some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. .

From : roy

on mon 27 feb 2006 002101 -0600 dale yonz yonzie@mac.com wrote you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale we saw that one. my wife and my son liked it. it was just ok to me. movies are like politics there is no general agreement. thats the truth! roy 4401bab9$0$944$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote i was never a big fan of sellers or martin so ill probably skip it. i liked zathura when we rented it the other night. great special effects. budd talkin about cracks butt crack jokes went to see the pink panther movie last night i really enjoyed it. steve martin did ok just imagine in your mind its peter sellers with white hair check the movie out dale 4400ad6c$0$20000$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to an old friend in the group about my current health i know you have used my admissions to physical limitations due to my health as you have called whining so what will you do with this dont worry i wont accuse you on honesty no matter how you respond. *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on mon 27 feb 2006 212609 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote im sorry what part of youre not a friend so leave me alone dont you understand do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world can i not do the same in a virtual world hint read what you just said.... i did read it a couple times before posting it mac. try choosing not to speak to them budd.. it might even make you appear a bit more rational... im trying to get them to give me the same respect they want thats all. if people bother you kill file or block them or just dont read their posts... or you can continue having these silly tantrums in public and continue embarrassing yourself... and those of us that are embarrassed for you.. mac i do appreciate your advice. im sorry it embarrasses you and the others. it embarrasses me as well because i ask no more than they ask for themselves to be respected for who they are and they cannot do it. im ashamed there are such individuals in this world with all the communication available. i will try to ignore them in the future. my friends are more important to me than my enemies though i would rather have all friends and no enemies. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale i was raised on the greats of comedy; red skelton joe e. brown milton berle and the like. much of what passes for comedy today isnt at all funny to me. i find it degrading and too sexually explicit. i dont care for the three stooges either. i also prefer science fiction and action adventures movies. one recent favorite was adapted from a book by a favorite author clive cussler. sahara is considerably different than the book yet kept the basic story line. clive was the advisor for this film unlike with his other book raise the titanic where he had no influence and the story was chopped to shreds. another series of books id like to see made into films but the author has set down specific rules about their filming is the dragons of pern series by anne mccaffery. budd see budd you really do have some redeeming qualities. i agree with everything you posted except the three stooges. you have to be a bitch-in-heat not to like them. do you wear dresses when no ones looking - now thatd a picture!! bfg roy no roy what would be scary would be if you wanted the picture for a pin-up next to a fat old rabbit . . . . budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale i was raised on the greats of comedy; red skelton joe e. brown milton berle and the like. much of what passes for comedy today isnt at all funny to me. i find it degrading and too sexually explicit. i dont care for the three stooges either. i also prefer science fiction and action adventures movies. one recent favorite was adapted from a book by a favorite author clive cussler. sahara is considerably different than the book yet kept the basic story line. clive was the advisor for this film unlike with his other book raise the titanic where he had no influence and the story was chopped to shreds. another series of books id like to see made into films but the author has set down specific rules about their filming is the dragons of pern series by anne mccaffery. budd see budd you really do have some redeeming qualities. i agree with everything you posted except the three stooges. you have to be a bitch-in-heat not to like them. do you wear dresses when no ones looking - i just never was amused by slapstick so rough it left the participants bruised. then as a foster parent i had a child in my home that thought that was the normal way to act. . . . . oh and the one wearing the dress thats my sister. -- some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

dammit bud! yes hes a bothersome know-it-all pita but he was just joking. -- darn it mike!!!! how many times do i have to put up with their crap about my health youre kidding right this is usenet! damned thread can go on forever. true. but then theyre not calling anyone else names are they would you like me to fully delurk rip the idiots a new asshole so they can call me names that would be your choicewouldnt it yes it would but i already know the consequences if i do. lol making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! that would be your opinion wouldnt it youre real talkative all of a sudden. its the irish in me. . . . . vbg understand im not badgering you. ive lurked here since 02 when i bought my first durango. ive been posting to groups since 97. im already familiar with the trolls here. youre not one of them. im just saying you should chill out. assholes are allowed to make goodhearted jokes too. well they can certainly and repeatedly fart . . . . . btw i like your weight loss program but i have you beat. i lost 90 lbs. without batting an eyelash. i was diagnosed with esophageal cancer dec 04. i was operated on and finished my chemo and radiation by may 05. i started out at 210 and im currently up to 165 after being down as low as 120. im 49. now i posted this personal information because i feel if someone here feels theyre brave enough to attack me with this they may just have to deal with it themselves. simple eh lol i would be honored to have you for a friend if i may call you friend i commend your courage and strength during your illness. are you considered to be in remission yet i had never given a second thought to my weight before my dm diagnosis and heart problems because i was active enough with work and family to stay around 200- 220 im the runt in my family btw at 5 9 but after my first heart attack i couldnt exert myself enough to keep the weight off . .. .then add to that i had married a fabulous cook. . . . . . -- some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. some people are like a destroyed slinky because they never learned the simple joys in life called playing. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mike

that would be your choicewouldnt it yes it would but i already know the consequences if i do. lol making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! that would be your opinion wouldnt it youre real talkative all of a sudden. its the irish in me. . . . . vbg im a full-blooded so.philly sicilian but i married irish. understand im not badgering you. ive lurked here since 02 when i bought my first durango. ive been posting to groups since 97. im already familiar with the trolls here. youre not one of them. im just saying you should chill out. assholes are allowed to make goodhearted jokes too. well they can certainly and repeatedly fart . . . . . ....which in the world of the internet means not-a-damned-thing! btw i like your weight loss program but i have you beat. i lost 90 lbs. without batting an eyelash. i was diagnosed with esophageal cancer dec 04. i was operated on and finished my chemo and radiation by may 05. i started out at 210 and im currently up to 165 after being down as low as 120. im 49. now i posted this personal information because i feel if someone here feels theyre brave enough to attack me with this they may just have to deal with it themselves. simple eh lol i would be honored to have you for a friend if i may call you friend never on a first date. i commend your courage and strength during your illness. are you considered to be in remission yet i need another year under my belt to be considered c-free. my type is very aggressive and usually returns in 2 to 2 1/2 yrs. so far all my scans and tests came back fine. i had never given a second thought to my weight before my dm diagnosis and heart problems because i was active enough with work and family to stay around 200- 220 im the runt in my family btw at 5 9 but after my first heart attack i couldnt exert myself enough to keep the weight off . . .then add to that i had married a fabulous cook. . . . . . ummmm.....there are many *other* ways to keep weight off. some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. some people are like a destroyed slinky because they never learned the simple joys in life called playing. budd those people need to air condition their skulls with whatever caliber bullet they deem proper. p.s. lemme tell you how easy it is to purchase a new car when youre wearing a chemo bag. bmfeg .

From : tbone

on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. if you feel this way then why do you keep replying it sounds to me like you very much would miss our replies because without them you would have a hard time remaining the center of attention and would have to resort to attacking the ones you still call friends. oh wait a minute you are already doing that never mine. if you dont want to read what i have to say then as you keep saying killfile me but i bet you wont do it. why do you two think i want or need your advice about my health my religion or anything i reply because i see a need to defend my position on these matters. stop telling me what to say believe how to live or vote and i will have nothing to reply to will i if you dont like what i have to say then ignore it. if i am as insignificant as you say why do you feel the need to defend your position against me face it budd i am either not all that insignificant or you just need to be the center of attention and never wrong about anything. i would say that it is a little of both but mostly your need for attention. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on mon 27 feb 2006 212609 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote im sorry what part of youre not a friend so leave me alone dont you understand do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world can i not do the same in a virtual world hint read what you just said.... i did read it a couple times before posting it mac. try choosing not to speak to them budd.. it might even make you appear a bit more rational... im trying to get them to give me the same respect they want thats all. complete bs. respect earns respect and you have yet to offer any. if people bother you kill file or block them or just dont read their posts... or you can continue having these silly tantrums in public and continue embarrassing yourself... and those of us that are embarrassed for you.. mac i do appreciate your advice. im sorry it embarrasses you and the others. gee it looks like i was right about that after all. it embarrasses me as well because i ask no more than they ask for thems

From : tbone

i dont hate you theres nothing to hate. . . . . . . lol and everything else you say says different. it is ok for friends to say what they want but not me or theguy. im sorry what part of youre not a friend so leave me alone dont you understand do you not choose to whom you speak in the real world can i not do the same in a virtual world sure you can budd by ignoring the people that you dont want to hear from and not replying every chance you get just like in the real world. you didnt say not anyone else you named us specifically. yes that is true. like i said there is nothing to hate. you are insignificant. if this is so why do you keep replying the funny thing is not all that long ago you were calling theguy a friend. what happened budd things change. he stepped over as line. in what way by not agreeing with you on every issue like i said you have no clue what friend really means. do you even know what a friend is beyond the dictionary definition do you yep but this is not an answer to the question. btw my friends know they can speak for themselves. they sure dont need you to do it for them. i am doing no such thing. they are speaking for themselves and in this thread. you are just in too deep a level of denial to see it. then how was it that i conversed with them on the topics hmm you missed that part quite well. no you pretty much ignored what they had to say and just went about justifying your actions. once again you make claims you cannot ever hope to back up and btw this is the very whining about your health that you were asking me to prove. no need to point to a link as you just did it again lol! spin twist and denial . . . . .is that all you know sorry budd there is no spin or twist here and the only denial is comming from you! in your bigoted opinion. bigoted opinion lol where do you come up with this stuff there are some in here with a sufficiently low enough noise level such as tom l and mac that can use their real names with a fair amount of safety but i am the first to admit that i am not one of them but am trying to move more toward that type but in todays world with the current level of id theft and the international level of usenet it simply is not worth the risk. the thing is budd that you really have nothing to lose but i and many others do. rotflmbo!!!!!!! thou fool! jesus of nazareth circa 30 a.d. do you really believe that id theives strike only those with something to lose of course not talk about twist and spin. the difference is that if you dont have much to lose there is not much risk either. id still like to know how you know my total worth. might be a legal issue. i dont and it isnt. i gave no actual number or any personal information that you did not post yourself. i am at as much risk as anybody but a little internet invesrtigation shows it to be far less rampant than you fear. for identity theft maybe. that would depend on what they were after now wouldnt it and here comes the denial since it is far more wide spread than you would care to believe. prime reason for id theft money. that outweighs the rest by several times. yes it does and many times you have claimed that you are on disability do to your health and that medicade does not fully cover your medications. you have also stated many times the size and location of your home and your description does not indicate a huge estate. as you say the primary reason for id theft is money and you have indicated many times that you are not a good target for that so as i said your risk level is several times lower. my bank gets notified if im leaving town or making a large purchase and will be using a debit card. the credit card companys get the same notification. its easy and it protects me. it really doesnt. unless your credit rating is quite low with the proper information someone could apply for and get another credit card with your name on it and max it out before you knew anything about it. everything else is replaceable / repairable. sure it is but why go through the trouble or put yourself at an unnecessary risk when it is easily avoided. btw your phrasing once again says you consider yourself to be better than me. id also like to know how you know how much i have. maybe youre an id thief . . . . . . once again your paranoia strikes again along with the false accusations. i dont know how much you have other than what you have said many times in this international ng. perhaps you have a lot of money packed away somewhere and i hope that you do for your sake alone. the point is tom your phrasing could get you in deep legal trouble. it could do no such thing. i have given no actual information at all. besides your legal name is as well known as your screen name. if you are going to be struck again

From : tbone

oh really and saying that i am insignificant shows any respect how im ashamed there are such individuals in this world with all the communication available. and dont forget to count yourself as one of us budd. i will try to ignore them in the future. my friends are more important to me than my enemies though i would rather have all friends and no enemies. just another lie. you are the one that makes your enemies. theguy has done nothing to you and yet you call him one for no valid reason. why is that budd even i have tried multiple times to put an end to these childish actions but when you reply it is always with some type of insult and if i reply in kind then you whine and cry again that im insulting you. if you want only friends then the first step has to start with you. lets see if that ever happens. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving . 222 313611 bu2nf.27354$915.13700@southeast.rr.com ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. you are just being a baby starved for attention. i am not roy nor am i denny. do not assume i should be like them or like you. dont worry i would never insult them or myself that way. aha and you said previously you never insult me any more you damned liar. lol it was a gentile tease and you call it an insult. anything to support your weak argument i guess. no since you are not a friend as you keep forgetting i do not consider your childish commets to be teases only insults. even still if you are really this thin skinned then you really dont belong here. how long will it take for you to learn that each individual has the right to be offended and to choose who offends them you are just making it personal now budd probably due to your hatred. so what if i am you made it personal just a few lines ago. how do you know denny or roy would be insulted you presume too much when you speak for others. get a life budd. a simple low key tease is hardly making anything personal. why because you say so who are you to tell me how to respond to your insults i will respond as i will. and continue to make a fool out of yourself. as for knowing if they would be insulted i cannot speak for denny but simply going by roys vain attempts to get you to act reasonably and like an adult in the past few threads i think that he would be insulted if someone accused him of acting just like you are right now. that would be their choice to make as it is mine to make about your insults. from what ive seen you have insulted them as well in the past but that would be my viewpoint and not necessarily theirs.. im sure that i have as have you. they have done the same to me but im no the one crying about it you are. what is it tom is it that guys like you cant stand to hear of another persons successes or achievements what in the hell are you talking about ah you must have gone to the same college as theguy. no neither one of us can decipher your bs but i would bet that is your intention. then you should demand your money back as well. i would say the same to you but it is more than obvious that you never attended. true i never did but not for the reason you think. how do you know what i think are you a mind reader now funny you sure think you know how i should think. . . . .dont you yep but that is not the same thing now is it i had a four year scholarship from my high school to john herron art school in indiananpolis in and went to work to care for my ailing mother instead. by the time her cancer went into remission my hands were ruined for art. sounds like another reason to blame something other than yourself for your failures. it would to you. yea but not just me. taking care of your mother was the right thing to do but i doubt that it ruined your hands for art. talented artists can paint with their teeth if they have to. here again you make assumptions stupid assumptions. then back up your claim. oh never mind you never back up anything. btw i was the only second year high school art student in that school to ever be given a scholarship of any kind. then why didnt you really take it or pursue it after you really have a short term memory problem dont you i am talking about after or maybe at nights. are you going to use the comment against me in the future claiming i was whining about it when all it really was is a report to a

From : tbone

on tue 28 feb 2006 011013 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote you really need to get you accusations in order. and you just need to admit to the truth. and what would that be budd the real truth or your imagined one i guess it would be too obvious if i suggested that budd is loving this as much as you and theguy of course he is probably much more so. i just made a simple joke in the hopes of lightening up things between us. i really didnt expect this. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on tue 28 feb 2006 021225 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on mon 27 feb 2006 083304 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote mac havent you noticed that i have no trouble accepting teasing from my friends i havent. just saying budd. trying to stay honest. then open your eyes. its you and tom that i will not accept any teasing or joking from. neither of you are my friend. you both destroyed the possibility and as far as im concerned i would miss your replies if you never spoke to me again like i would miss my current health if i were completely healed right now iow not at all. if you feel this way then why do you keep replying it sounds to me like you very much would miss our replies because without them you would have a hard time remaining the center of attention and would have to resort to attacking the ones you still call friends. oh wait a minute you are already doing that never mine. if you dont want to read what i have to say then as you keep saying killfile me but i bet you wont do it. ouch! some real hits home analysis there... and the sad thing is and i think that you and others can see im really not trying to attack him. im just laying the truth out on the line in the hopes that he will see it and mellow out. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

nope but you are. ok and you keep lying about it. childish. yea you are but i tried to refrain from saying it. im surprised you had the self-control. if you actually got to know me instead of just hating me..... whos the insecure ones that are afraid to use their real names on the internet the same can be said for many of your friends as well. can it nate dropped the sandman moniker many years ago and everyone else has revealed themselves and they dont threaten lawsuits if their name comes out. . . .like you. none of them refuse to identify themselves like theguy has. ive posted full name and hometown and have never had it hijacked. really what is maxs full name. the same as its been since his birth as far as i know. that is not what i asked but you knew that didnt you. hes posted it and still does occasionally. really then he shouldnt mind you saying it should he but hey just supply a link to where he did. i bet you cant and if not then you are once again full of shit and a liar. no i would need his permission to do so according to your rules. see im playing your rules and you dont like it hypocrite. lol if you need his permission then he must have a reason for not wanting his name known which puts him into the same category you put me into. i also asked for a link to one of his posts where he gave his name and you were unable to do that either. sorry budd but either way your accusations of me are once again fabricated and baseless. and your unproven point is read above and btw even you son does not use his real name. why is that budd dont know for sure. it is his decision to do so being 27 years old of course but unlike you he doesnt panic and threaten lawsuits if his name gets posted. well you should he is your son and you seem to have a real problem when people dont or is it only the people that you dont like im sorry what part of adulthood dont you understand all of it my son is an adult and if i do say so myself far more mature than either of you. this once again has nothing to do with the question just more senseless spin and lame insults. if you have such a problem with people not using their real names why is it ok for your son to use a handle and your unproven point is your level of denial does not make my point unproven it just makes you look stubborn and ignorant. look at you own denials tom. you cant see the forest for the trees. more baseless accusations. what makes it sad is that you are doing it for the whole world to see but i guess that if you have no pride and nothing to lose.... that is one major difference between us tom i am not prideful. i have succeeded in many things including four businesses but i dont worry about what anyone thinks oif them. they like my health issues are only facts and truths about the human being called charles l. budd cochran. more bs and spin. every chance you get you talk about your successes and blame others for all of your failures. sounds like pride to me. youre taking pride in something you posses and now youre panicky about someone stealing it. as would anyone with something to lose. i would give what i have to someone in need even to where i would have to start all over. i really doubt that. keep what you have tom take lots of pride in it but it wont save you. wont save me from what budd legend has it that a passenger on the titanic tried to take several pounds of gold and jewelry with them when the ship sank. and in reality they did take it with them to the bottom of the sea. . . . . . what does this have to do with anything since the titanic did not have enough life boats to begin with they would be just as dead either way. as much fun as this was it is getting pointless to continue. if you wish to reply go for it but i am done here. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg yea i know but mac is kind of mellow compared to the two of you mellow roll me some of whatever yer smokin vbg perhaps im mixing the two of them up. you know those damn hippies all type alike bfg although i can see that a high degree of respect is maintained. kinda been there done that deal. it is in the eyes. it is similar to the things said between me and my friends and is quite entertaining to read. humor is always good. yea it lightens up the day. how is the leg doing a month and 1/2 out and the swelling is down but there is still some inflamation around some of the tendons. not the leg but the ankle. doc says im to old to be dropping 600 pound atvs on it and expect it to heal in a week or two. hes right this sucks. but i managed to put 10 miles on it this weekend. i just wrap the hell out of the ankle and lace it real tight. whatever works. how much pulling power do those atvs have. i have about 2 acres that i need to clean up and am trying to decide between that and a garden tractor. while the atv looks like a hell of a lot more fun the pulling capability has to take priority and i really cant afford to get both right now. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

that would be your choicewouldnt it yes it would but i already know the consequences if i do. lol making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! that would be your opinion wouldnt it youre real talkative all of a sudden. its the irish in me. . . . . vbg im a full-blooded so.philly sicilian but i married irish. so the kids are half-perfect ; im mostly scotch / irish but its still drying out and english but i blame my dad for the english part. so. philly . . .isnt that were the philly cheese steak sandwich was invented btw im in moab ut. home of the arches national park. understand im not badgering you. ive lurked here since 02 when i bought my first durango. ive been posting to groups since 97. im already familiar with the trolls here. youre not one of them. im just saying you should chill out. assholes are allowed to make goodhearted jokes too. well they can certainly and repeatedly fart . . . . . ...which in the world of the internet means not-a-damned-thing! but does add to the aroma of the internet dont you think btw i like your weight loss program but i have you beat. i lost 90 lbs. without batting an eyelash. i was diagnosed with esophageal cancer dec 04. i was operated on and finished my chemo and radiation by may 05. i started out at 210 and im currently up to 165 after being down as low as 120. im 49. now i posted this personal information because i feel if someone here feels theyre brave enough to attack me with this they may just have to deal with it themselves. simple eh lol i would be honored to have you for a friend if i may call you friend never on a first date. well i wont tell if you dont. i commend your courage and strength during your illness. are you considered to be in remission yet i need another year under my belt to be considered c-free. my type is very aggressive and usually returns in 2 to 2 1/2 yrs. so far all my scans and tests came back fine. keep on keeping on mike. i had never given a second thought to my weight before my dm diagnosis and heart problems because i was active enough with work and family to stay around 200- 220 im the runt in my family btw at 5 9 but after my first heart attack i couldnt exert myself enough to keep the weight off . . .then add to that i had married a fabulous cook. . . . . . ummmm.....there are many *other* ways to keep weight off. i mentioned not long ago that i did have a little depression when i was first diagnosed but with my younger brothers help and a whole lot of fishing for rainbows and channel cats its coming off slowly. some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. some people are like a destroyed slinky because they never learned the simple joys in life called playing. budd those people need to air condition their skulls with whatever caliber bullet they deem proper. id rather they learn to play. tell me to go fly a kite for example and im going to the store to pick one out. p.s. lemme tell you how easy it is to purchase a new car when youre wearing a chemo bag. bmfeg i can bet its a real fun time not. . . .ive worked in senior care assisted living and with the handicapped. having taken people to various appointments and seeing the stares because of the accessories needed to live makes you want to slap a few eyeballs back into heads... with a baseball bat. the last time i went to buy a new car 72 i went in old jeans and t-shirt picked out the car to order and when the salesdrone tried to ignore me waved my checkbook under his nose. his boss the owner walked by as i was filling out the order form and saidhi budd hows your mom and family suddenly i got a lot of attention from him. . . . . . vbg budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mike

see budd you really do have some redeeming qualities. i agree with everything you posted except the three stooges. you have to be a bitch-in-heat not to like them. do you wear dresses when no ones looking - i just never was amused by slapstick so rough it left the participants bruised. huh the blood and bruises are the best part!!! pseudo-shocked facial expression you vicious person !!! need to send you to remedial gladiator school!!! i was the first person to crack an anger management instructor. then as a foster parent i had a child in my home that thought that was the normal way to act. . . . . you have a legit excuse. you win this discussion. not trying to win anything mike. its a fact and in truth i prefer peace but willing fight to gain it. 12 years national guard 49 years so.philly survivor. gat ya beat. oh and the one wearing the dress thats my sister. tell her to shave her ass and start walking backwards. g cant she passed away in 88. but dont feel embarrassed i pulled her into the discussion. as long as you didnt pull her out of her resting place. -- you cant fix stupid. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

you have to rent the movie wedding crashers dale i was raised on the greats of comedy; red skelton joe e. brown milton berle and the like. much of what passes for comedy today isnt at all funny to me. i find it degrading and too sexually explicit. i dont care for the three stooges either. i also prefer science fiction and action adventures movies. one recent favorite was adapted from a book by a favorite author clive cussler. sahara is considerably different than the book yet kept the basic story line. clive was the advisor for this film unlike with his other book raise the titanic where he had no influence and the story was chopped to shreds. another series of books id like to see made into films but the author has set down specific rules about their filming is the dragons of pern series by anne mccaffery. budd see budd you really do have some redeeming qualities. i agree with everything you posted except the three stooges. you have to be a bitch-in-heat not to like them. do you wear dresses when no ones looking - i just never was amused by slapstick so rough it left the participants bruised. huh the blood and bruises are the best part!!! pseudo-shocked facial expression you vicious person !!! need to send you to remedial gladiator school!!! then as a foster parent i had a child in my home that thought that was the normal way to act. . . . . you have a legit excuse. you win this discussion. not trying to win anything mike. its a fact and in truth i prefer peace but willing fight to gain it. 12 years national guard oh and the one wearing the dress thats my sister. tell her to shave her ass and start walking backwards. g cant she passed away in 88. but dont feel embarrassed i pulled her into the discussion. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mike

that would be your choicewouldnt it yes it would but i already know the consequences if i do. lol making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! that would be your opinion wouldnt it youre real talkative all of a sudden. its the irish in me. . . . . vbg im a full-blooded so.philly sicilian but i married irish. so the kids are half-perfect ; actually 3/4. wife is 1/2 irish. the rest would make a mutt blush. im mostly scotch / irish but its still drying out and english but i blame my dad for the english part. so. philly . . .isnt that were the philly cheese steak sandwich was invented oh yeah! ten minutes from pats & genos. two blocks away from nicks roast beef. youd weigh 700 lbs. if you lived here. eg btw im in moab ut. home of the arches national park. hows donny & marie understand im not badgering you. ive lurked here since 02 when i bought my first durango. ive been posting to groups since 97. im already familiar with the trolls here. youre not one of them. im just saying you should chill out. assholes are allowed to make goodhearted jokes too. well they can certainly and repeatedly fart . . . . . ...which in the world of the internet means not-a-damned-thing! but does add to the aroma of the internet dont you think you can never have the good without the bad. btw i like your weight loss program but i have you beat. i lost 90 lbs. without batting an eyelash. i was diagnosed with esophageal cancer dec 04. i was operated on and finished my chemo and radiation by may 05. i started out at 210 and im currently up to 165 after being down as low as 120. im 49. now i posted this personal information because i feel if someone here feels theyre brave enough to attack me with this they may just have to deal with it themselves. simple eh lol i would be honored to have you for a friend if i may call you friend never on a first date. well i wont tell if you dont. i commend your courage and strength during your illness. are you considered to be in remission yet i need another year under my belt to be considered c-free. my type is very aggressive and usually returns in 2 to 2 1/2 yrs. so far all my scans and tests came back fine. keep on keeping on mike. is there any other way i had never given a second thought to my weight before my dm diagnosis and heart problems because i was active enough with work and family to stay around 200- 220 im the runt in my family btw at 5 9 but after my first heart attack i couldnt exert myself enough to keep the weight off . . .then add to that i had married a fabulous cook. . . . . . ummmm.....there are many *other* ways to keep weight off. i mentioned not long ago that i did have a little depression when i was first diagnosed but with my younger brothers help and a whole lot of fishing for rainbows and channel cats its coming off slowly. viagra dammit!!! that is if the doctor allows. some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. some people are like a destroyed slinky because they never learned the simple joys in life called playing. budd those people need to air condition their skulls with whatever caliber bullet they deem proper. id rather they learn to play. tell me to go fly a kite for example and im going to the store to pick one out. i gave up looking for the best in people. prove it to me or kiss my ass. im a nasty bastard in real life. p.s. lemme tell you how easy it is to purchase a new car when youre wearing a chemo bag. bmfeg i can bet its a real fun time not. . . .ive worked in senior care assisted living and with the handicapped. having taken people to various appointments and seeing the stares because of the accessories needed to live makes you want to slap a few eyeballs back into heads... with a baseball bat. the last time i went to buy a new car 72 i went in old jeans and t-shirt picked out the car to order and when the salesdrone tried to ignore me waved my checkbook under his nose. his boss the owner walked by as i was filling out the order form and saidhi budd hows your mom and family suddenly i got a lot of attention from him. . . . . . vbg in feb 05 we brought the 02 durango in for the ball joint recall. while there in full cancer regalia the salesman who sold me the 02 told me flat out id be taking the 04 floor model home that day. i told him i couldnt negotiate because the chemo had me weak and had dulled my senses which it had to a certain extent. he came back 20 minutes later and tried again. i took off my hat most of my hair had already fallen out and told him

From : mac davis

on wed 1 mar 2006 024611 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote found it here www.buykawasaki.com says it will tow 1250lbs. im betting that is very conservative. roy damn! thats about a bunny and a half isnt it mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

see budd you really do have some redeeming qualities. i agree with everything you posted except the three stooges. you have to be a bitch-in-heat not to like them. do you wear dresses when no ones looking - i just never was amused by slapstick so rough it left the participants bruised. huh the blood and bruises are the best part!!! pseudo-shocked facial expression you vicious person !!! need to send you to remedial gladiator school!!! i was the first person to crack an anger management instructor. lol i took a course in the nat guard for the position of race relations nco and when the 65 major called me an s.o.b. i stood up to my full 59 and looked right in the eye and tolds him that was one name i would not take from any man of any race and he had two seconds before i ripped his heart out and fed it to him. he apologized. then as a foster parent i had a child in my home that thought that was the normal way to act. . . . . you have a legit excuse. you win this discussion. not trying to win anything mike. its a fact and in truth i prefer peace but willing fight to gain it. 12 years national guard 49 years so.philly survivor. gat ya beat. lol in some towns that should count as combat time... like indianapolis in l.a. chicago jacksonville fl. oh and the one wearing the dress thats my sister. tell her to shave her ass and start walking backwards. g cant she passed away in 88. but dont feel embarrassed i pulled her into the discussion. as long as you didnt pull her out of her resting place. naw but no one would notice. she was always a stinker to me. -- you cant fix stupid. but dont you wish it had a no questions refund policy budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

that would be your choicewouldnt it yes it would but i already know the consequences if i do. lol making fun of their physical limitations etc. just because they admitted to some physical limitations aches and pains reported their health condition to friends when asked. budd youve been around long enough to know theres nothing personal on the internet! that would be your opinion wouldnt it youre real talkative all of a sudden. its the irish in me. . . . . vbg im a full-blooded so.philly sicilian but i married irish. so the kids are half-perfect ; actually 3/4. wife is 1/2 irish. the rest would make a mutt blush. im mostly scotch / irish but its still drying out and english but i blame my dad for the english part. so. philly . . .isnt that were the philly cheese steak sandwich was invented oh yeah! ten minutes from pats & genos. two blocks away from nicks roast beef. youd weigh 700 lbs. if you lived here. eg ah but what a way to go . . . . . maybe i should get a bumper sticker that says if heaven doesnt have philly sandwiches gyros or choclate i dont wanna go. btw im in moab ut. home of the arches national park. hows donny & marie who oh them . . .alive i think. understand im not badgering you. ive lurked here since 02 when i bought my first durango. ive been posting to groups since 97. im already familiar with the trolls here. youre not one of them. im just saying you should chill out. assholes are allowed to make goodhearted jokes too. well they can certainly and repeatedly fart . . . . . ...which in the world of the internet means not-a-damned-thing! but does add to the aroma of the internet dont you think you can never have the good without the bad. butt . . .uh er but one can hope . . .or have a clothespin handy. btw i like your weight loss program but i have you beat. i lost 90 lbs. without batting an eyelash. i was diagnosed with esophageal cancer dec 04. i was operated on and finished my chemo and radiation by may 05. i started out at 210 and im currently up to 165 after being down as low as 120. im 49. now i posted this personal information because i feel if someone here feels theyre brave enough to attack me with this they may just have to deal with it themselves. simple eh lol i would be honored to have you for a friend if i may call you friend never on a first date. well i wont tell if you dont. i commend your courage and strength during your illness. are you considered to be in remission yet i need another year under my belt to be considered c-free. my type is very aggressive and usually returns in 2 to 2 1/2 yrs. so far all my scans and tests came back fine. keep on keeping on mike. is there any other way depends on who you ask . . . . i had never given a second thought to my weight before my dm diagnosis and heart problems because i was active enough with work and family to stay around 200- 220 im the runt in my family btw at 5 9 but after my first heart attack i couldnt exert myself enough to keep the weight off . . .then add to that i had married a fabulous cook. . . . . . ummmm.....there are many *other* ways to keep weight off. i mentioned not long ago that i did have a little depression when i was first diagnosed but with my younger brothers help and a whole lot of fishing for rainbows and channel cats its coming off slowly. viagra dammit!!! that is if the doctor allows. lol im not a candidate for the presidency. some people are like a slinky.....not really good for anything but you still cant help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. some people are like a destroyed slinky because they never learned the simple joys in life called playing. budd those people need to air condition their skulls with whatever caliber bullet they deem proper. id rather they learn to play. tell me to go fly a kite for example and im going to the store to pick one out. i gave up looking for the best in people. prove it to me or kiss my ass. im a nasty bastard in real life. i have been got better though. p.s. lemme tell you how easy it is to purchase a new car when youre wearing a chemo bag. bmfeg i can bet its a real fun time not. . . .ive worked in senior care assisted living and with the handicapped. having taken people to various appointments and seeing the stares because of the accessories needed to live makes you want to slap a few eyeballs back into heads... with a baseball bat. the last time i went to buy a new car 72 i went in old jeans and t-shirt picked out the car to order and when the salesdrone tried to ignore me waved my checkbook under his nose. his boss the owner walked by as i was filling out the order form and saidhi budd hows your mom and family suddenly i got a lot of attention from him. . . . . . vbg in feb 05 we brought the 02 durango in for the ball joint re

From : roy

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg yea i know but mac is kind of mellow compared to the two of you mellow roll me some of whatever yer smokin vbg perhaps im mixing the two of them up. you know those damn hippies all type alike bfg although i can see that a high degree of respect is maintained. kinda been there done that deal. it is in the eyes. it is similar to the things said between me and my friends and is quite entertaining to read. humor is always good. yea it lightens up the day. how is the leg doing a month and 1/2 out and the swelling is down but there is still some inflamation around some of the tendons. not the leg but the ankle. doc says im to old to be dropping 600 pound atvs on it and expect it to heal in a week or two. hes right this sucks. but i managed to put 10 miles on it this weekend. i just wrap the hell out of the ankle and lace it real tight. whatever works. how much pulling power do those atvs have. how much pulling power kind of a tough one to answer. let me try it this way. mine is a kawasaki prairie 700 4x4 it is automatic belt driven two gears forward low and high. it has oversized tires with a much more aggressive tread than the stock tire. a friend has the identical machine and popped a cooling line he weighs 235 pounds and the machine weighs about 625 pounds wet. i dragged him about 5 miles through woods over trees through mud without a bit of trouble. although it was on wheels a dead stop was required befor it was pulled over fallen trees rocks and other stuff. i would think that it would pull easily twice that. i gotta have figures for that someplace. if i find them ill postem. i have about 2 acres that i need to clean up and am trying to decide between that and a garden tractor. i doubt a garde tractor would do what a atv would unless you went with a big buck one while the atv looks like a hell of a lot more fun they are a ball. i sorta look at it as you can do things on a atv that youd love to do in a 4x4 pick up but cant afford the damage that would follow. the pulling capability has to take priority and i really cant afford to get both right now. ill try to find the exact figures for ya. roy if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : roy

ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg yea i know but mac is kind of mellow compared to the two of you mellow roll me some of whatever yer smokin vbg perhaps im mixing the two of them up. you know those damn hippies all type alike bfg although i can see that a high degree of respect is maintained. kinda been there done that deal. it is in the eyes. it is similar to the things said between me and my friends and is quite entertaining to read. humor is always good. yea it lightens up the day. how is the leg doing a month and 1/2 out and the swelling is down but there is still some inflamation around some of the tendons. not the leg but the ankle. doc says im to old to be dropping 600 pound atvs on it and expect it to heal in a week or two. hes right this sucks. but i managed to put 10 miles on it this weekend. i just wrap the hell out of the ankle and lace it real tight. whatever works. how much pulling power do those atvs have. i have about 2 acres that i need to clean up and am trying to decide between that and a garden tractor. while the atv looks like a hell of a lot more fun the pulling capability has to take priority and i really cant afford to get both right now. found it here www.buykawasaki.com says it will tow 1250lbs. im betting that is very conservative. roy if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : theguy

on wed 1 mar 2006 015235 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote a month and 1/2 out and the swelling is down but there is still some inflamation around some of the tendons. not the leg but the ankle. doc says im to old to be dropping 600 pound atvs on it and expect it to heal in a week or two. hes right this sucks. but i managed to put 10 miles on it this weekend. i just wrap the hell out of the ankle and lace it real tight. whatever works. how much pulling power do those atvs have. how much pulling power kind of a tough one to answer. let me try it this way. mine is a kawasaki prairie 700 4x4 it is automatic belt driven two gears forward low and high. it has oversized tires with a much more aggressive tread than the stock tire. a friend has the identical machine and popped a cooling line he weighs 235 pounds and the machine weighs about 625 pounds wet. i dragged him about 5 miles through woods over trees through mud without a bit of trouble. although it was on wheels a dead stop was required befor it was pulled over fallen trees rocks and other stuff. i would think that it would pull easily twice that. i gotta have figures for that someplace. if i find them ill postem. i have about 2 acres that i need to clean up and am trying to decide between that and a garden tractor. i doubt a garde tractor would do what a atv would unless you went with a big buck one while the atv looks like a hell of a lot more fun they are a ball. i sorta look at it as you can do things on a atv that youd love to do in a 4x4 pick up but cant afford the damage that would follow. oh yeah. i have only played around with each one dont own either but if i was going to buy it would be atv all the way. just the fun factor alone would make it a done deal for me. the pulling capability has to take priority and i really cant afford to get both right now. ill try to find the exact figures for ya. roy if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : mac davis

on wed 1 mar 2006 062458 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote roy it could be rated low on purpose to prevent lawsuits. theres at least one post on usenet iirc about a person complaining because either hitch world or u-haul would not put a hitch on a jeep with a soft top. the reason given was because of the roll-over dangers again iirc. and youve sorta proved that was a possibility with an atv though the local er gets them all the time especially during practice weekends for jeep safari. ^ how much weight is on the front axle divide that by the ratio of the wheelbase to the rear axle center line to hitch point and you have the absolute maximum weight on the tongue. that figure times 10 gives maximum theoretical trailer weight. then id suggest towing no more than 75% of that figure just to be safe. yes it might tow more but is it smart to tow that much ok.. make that just 1 bunny to be safe.. *eg* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on tue 28 feb 2006 112750 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote there is that too.. shes 12 years younger than i am.. *g* that age difference wasnt a big deal when we went into this. but now out the other side it can be a bit troublesome. i hear that! nan tends to think of us as the same age... but when she was in law school a few years ago she mentioned that after her student loans came due she couldnt retire until she was 70... i mentioned that i wasnt willing to bet that id be around and up to a move to baja at 82... you could see the light go on and she decided that 3 more years of law school was a bad idea.. *g* im totally into a move to fl at this point. wind chill was 10 below at work yesterday and this morning when i would have liked to go out for a walk it was 15 above. hell i had to through the dog out and shes built for this weather. imho the only thing built for that weather are ice cubes! well bro seems we are on pretty much the same page only on different coasts.g ours is probably a bit less expensive... the lot was 30k and the house and shop will be another $160... 2nd lot was also $30 but that house will only be about $125k and will rent for about $10k a year after expenses... should be pretty comfortable there... you can live well on $1000 a month if your home is paid for.. oh id be remiss if i didnt comment on the number of posts by you this morning. xtra coffee purple hazebfg maybe adrenalin i feel like a hall monitor in romper room... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

yeah but with 2.5 ton pulling and the atv plus your weight holding it down .. . . . . i dont see a problem . . . ; vbg seriously imho the winch is way too powerful but its probably the smallest electric unit available and then theres the mines bigger factoring and . . . . -- budd cochran roy it could be rated low on purpose to prevent lawsuits. theres at least one post on usenet iirc about a person complaining because either hitch world or u-haul would not put a hitch on a jeep with a soft top. the reason given was because of the roll-over dangers again iirc. yup as i said it is probably very rated low. the hitch is on the rear end attached to the swing arm so it is fairly beefy. but how the hell much are you going to pull clearing property. most of them offer a 2.5 ton winch for the front anyway. roy *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

roy it could be rated low on purpose to prevent lawsuits. theres at least one post on usenet iirc about a person complaining because either hitch world or u-haul would not put a hitch on a jeep with a soft top. the reason given was because of the roll-over dangers again iirc. and youve sorta proved that was a possibility with an atv though the local er gets them all the time especially during practice weekends for jeep safari. ^ how much weight is on the front axle divide that by the ratio of the wheelbase to the rear axle center line to hitch point and you have the absolute maximum weight on the tongue. that figure times 10 gives maximum theoretical trailer weight. then id suggest towing no more than 75% of that figure just to be safe. yes it might tow more but is it smart to tow that much -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 ya know as i wrote those words i just knew someone would have to make a disparaging crack about it. thanks for being predictable as always. if you knew it and were worried about it then why did you post it sounds kinda dumb to me. nope just proves my point that you will be unkind toward me as much as possible. bullshit. it was a simple joke and not a bad one either far kinder than the attacks denny and roy throw at each other. ya left out mac . what are you talking about attacks it is called tough love. vbg yea i know but mac is kind of mellow compared to the two of you mellow roll me some of whatever yer smokin vbg perhaps im mixing the two of them up. you know those damn hippies all type alike bfg although i can see that a high degree of respect is maintained. kinda been there done that deal. it is in the eyes. it is similar to the things said between me and my friends and is quite entertaining to read. humor is always good. yea it lightens up the day. how is the leg doing a month and 1/2 out and the swelling is down but there is still some inflamation around some of the tendons. not the leg but the ankle. doc says im to old to be dropping 600 pound atvs on it and expect it to heal in a week or two. hes right this sucks. but i managed to put 10 miles on it this weekend. i just wrap the hell out of the ankle and lace it real tight. whatever works. how much pulling power do those atvs have. i have about 2 acres that i need to clean up and am trying to decide between that and a garden tractor. while the atv looks like a hell of a lot more fun the pulling capability has to take priority and i really cant afford to get both right now. found it here www.buykawasaki.com says it will tow 1250lbs. im betting that is very conservative. roy if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : stephen harding

gee what happened aadt has become the happy birthday budd group but with the usual acrimonious birthday discussions of course! things can change so quickly on the internet... and happy b too btw. smh .

From : roy

on tue 28 feb 2006 112750 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote there is that too.. shes 12 years younger than i am.. *g* that age difference wasnt a big deal when we went into this. but now out the other side it can be a bit troublesome. i hear that! nan tends to think of us as the same age... but when she was in law school a few years ago she mentioned that after her student loans came due she couldnt retire until she was 70... i mentioned that i wasnt willing to bet that id be around and up to a move to baja at 82... you could see the light go on and she decided that 3 more years of law school was a bad idea.. *g* the age difference is a hassel. sue will get a piece of my pension when she hits 60 although it is reduced a bit by a percentage of what her teaching pension will be. the real pia is medical i have her on mine at minimal cost when i retire she picks hers it up for a about $500 @month iirc. of course she is covered under champus or whatever it is called now. it would be nice to hit her 401k and mine at the same time. im totally into a move to fl at this point. wind chill was 10 below at work yesterday and this morning when i would have liked to go out for a walk it was 15 above. hell i had to through the dog out and shes built for this weather. imho the only thing built for that weather are ice cubes! nah shes a 90 pound german sheperd. gotta watch out for her ears though wind the wind chill is that low. well bro seems we are on pretty much the same page only on different coasts.g ours is probably a bit less expensive... the lot was 30k and the house and shop will be another $160... 2nd lot was also $30 but that house will only be about $125k and will rent for about $10k a year after expenses... wow!!!!! that is nice. im trying to keep things under 300k house and lot. should be pretty comfortable there... you can live well on $1000 a month if your home is paid for.. we did some figureing last week while on vacation. took us all week to get it all together and im sick. to live in this house heat water elec propane real estate tax home insurance car insurance cable phoneexcise tax on autos everything came to $1000@ month. then comes everything else food clothes and so on. thats to freeze my ass off. i can cut that by 1/3 or better and put about 150k in my pocket selling this place and doing the move and being warm on the beach. oh id be remiss if i didnt comment on the number of posts by you this morning. xtra coffee purple hazebfg maybe adrenalin i feel like a hall monitor in romper room... for sure. roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

lol!!!!!!!! -- budd cochran on wed 1 mar 2006 062458 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote roy it could be rated low on purpose to prevent lawsuits. theres at least one post on usenet iirc about a person complaining because either hitch world or u-haul would not put a hitch on a jeep with a soft top. the reason given was because of the roll-over dangers again iirc. and youve sorta proved that was a possibility with an atv though the local er gets them all the time especially during practice weekends for jeep safari. ^ how much weight is on the front axle divide that by the ratio of the wheelbase to the rear axle center line to hitch point and you have the absolute maximum weight on the tongue. that figure times 10 gives maximum theoretical trailer weight. then id suggest towing no more than 75% of that figure just to be safe. yes it might tow more but is it smart to tow that much ok.. make that just 1 bunny to be safe.. *eg* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : roy

roy it could be rated low on purpose to prevent lawsuits. theres at least one post on usenet iirc about a person complaining because either hitch world or u-haul would not put a hitch on a jeep with a soft top. the reason given was because of the roll-over dangers again iirc. yup as i said it is probably very rated low. the hitch is on the rear end attached to the swing arm so it is fairly beefy. but how the hell much are you going to pull clearing property. most of them offer a 2.5 ton winch for the front anyway. roy .

From : roy

on wed 1 mar 2006 062458 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote roy it could be rated low on purpose to prevent lawsuits. theres at least one post on usenet iirc about a person complaining because either hitch world or u-haul would not put a hitch on a jeep with a soft top. the reason given was because of the roll-over dangers again iirc. and youve sorta proved that was a possibility with an atv though the local er gets them all the time especially during practice weekends for jeep safari. ^ how much weight is on the front axle divide that by the ratio of the wheelbase to the rear axle center line to hitch point and you have the absolute maximum weight on the tongue. that figure times 10 gives maximum theoretical trailer weight. then id suggest towing no more than 75% of that figure just to be safe. yes it might tow more but is it smart to tow that much ok.. make that just 1 bunny to be safe.. *eg* be careful that furry wide ride is spending his time at gun shows. g roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

lol its an old tradition ok not old but about 9 years now between me and nate who has the same birthday as i feb. 20th to see who can wish the other happy b-day first. when he lived back east he had an unfair advantage due to the time zones but now thats not so much a problem. and thank you for the belated condolences. vbg -- budd cochran gee what happened aadt has become the happy birthday budd group but with the usual acrimonious birthday discussions of course! things can change so quickly on the internet... and happy b too btw. smh *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mac davis

on wed 1 mar 2006 110427 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote the age difference is a hassel. sue will get a piece of my pension when she hits 60 although it is reduced a bit by a percentage of what her teaching pension will be. the real pia is medical i have her on mine at minimal cost when i retire she picks hers it up for a about $500 @month iirc. of course she is covered under champus or whatever it is called now. it would be nice to hit her 401k and mine at the same time. were paying almost $600 a month right now for minimal kaiser with max deductible and co-pay... goes up every 6 months too.. most expensive quote weve had so far for baja was $125 for full coverage for the 2 of us including helo transport if needed... imho the only thing built for that weather are ice cubes! nah shes a 90 pound german sheperd. gotta watch out for her ears though wind the wind chill is that low. ill bet that shell adjust to florida winters faster than you will.. *g* ours is probably a bit less expensive... the lot was 30k and the house and shop will be another $160... 2nd lot was also $30 but that house will only be about $125k and will rent for about $10k a year after expenses... wow!!!!! that is nice. im trying to keep things under 300k house and lot. we could have gone a lot cheaper.... most houses down there are 1100 to 1300 sq foot 2 bedroom 2 bath... we went with a 1600 ft house with the 18 x 20 3rd bedroom being the shop when we move in... it should rent for $150 a night about 200 nights a year... figure $100 a night after management & taxes.. the 2nd house will be 2 bedroom and rent for about $120 gross... were looking at it being our safety net income.... just to be a tiny bit on topic the dakota is paid for and the ram will be in about 6 months so they can both go with us... we did some figureing last week while on vacation. took us all week to get it all together and im sick. to live in this house heat water elec propane real estate tax home insurance car insurance cable phoneexcise tax on autos everything came to $1000@ month. then comes everything else food clothes and so on. thats to freeze my ass off. i can cut that by 1/3 or better and put about 150k in my pocket selling this place and doing the move and being warm on the beach. i hear that... so far our house has gone up almost as fast as baja has... well sell it to build the 2nd house and put whats left into investment income... we figure that our total per month for the stuff you list will be about 1/2 of what were paying now for both houses... were averaging $500 a month now for utilities... people with 4000 sq ft homes down there are paying less that $120 if they run the a/c all summer... the utilities are subsidized so the average mexican citizen can afford them.. the only real downside that ive found so far is that you cant have guns... kind of a bummer there... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on wed 1 mar 2006 111350 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote yes it might tow more but is it smart to tow that much ok.. make that just 1 bunny to be safe.. *eg* be careful that furry wide ride is spending his time at gun shows. g roy i noticed his absence from the thread and thought that might bring him in.. *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : nosey

the only real downside that ive found so far is that you cant have guns... kind of a bummer there... you would like gun law in the town that i live in kennesaw ga. im *required* to own a gun. this is from our city code of ordinances sec. 34-1. heads of households to maintain firearms. a in order to provide for the emergency management of the city and further in order to provide for and protect the safety security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm together with ammunition therefor. b exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine or persons convicted of a felony. code 1986 4-3-10 -- ken .

From : roy

on wed 1 mar 2006 110427 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote the age difference is a hassel. sue will get a piece of my pension when she hits 60 although it is reduced a bit by a percentage of what her teaching pension will be. the real pia is medical i have her on mine at minimal cost when i retire she picks hers it up for a about $500 @month iirc. of course she is covered under champus or whatever it is called now. it would be nice to hit her 401k and mine at the same time. were paying almost $600 a month right now for minimal kaiser with max deductible and co-pay... goes up every 6 months too.. most expensive quote weve had so far for baja was $125 for full coverage for the 2 of us including helo transport if needed... thats nice. helo tranport huh been there done that.g imho the only thing built for that weather are ice cubes! nah shes a 90 pound german sheperd. gotta watch out for her ears though wind the wind chill is that low. ill bet that shell adjust to florida winters faster than you will.. *g* she will be fine. as long as there is a pool or ocean for her to cool off in. she still whines when we are visiting the people that bought our other house with the pool. she wants in. ours is probably a bit less expensive... the lot was 30k and the house and shop will be another $160... 2nd lot was also $30 but that house will only be about $125k and will rent for about $10k a year after expenses... wow!!!!! that is nice. im trying to keep things under 300k house and lot. we could have gone a lot cheaper.... most houses down there are 1100 to 1300 sq foot 2 bedroom 2 bath... we went with a 1600 ft house with the 18 x 20 3rd bedroom being the shop when we move in... we need at least 2000 we found over the years that we both need our own space. shut up denny it should rent for $150 a night about 200 nights a year... figure $100 a night after management & taxes.. the 2nd house will be 2 bedroom and rent for about $120 gross... were looking at it being our safety net income.... yup gotta have a net. just to be a tiny bit on topic the dakota is paid for and the ram will be in about 6 months so they can both go with us... we did some figureing last week while on vacation. took us all week to get it all together and im sick. to live in this house heat water elec propane real estate tax home insurance car insurance cable phoneexcise tax on autos everything came to $1000@ month. then comes everything else food clothes and so on. thats to freeze my ass off. i can cut that by 1/3 or better and put about 150k in my pocket selling this place and doing the move and being warm on the beach. i hear that... so far our house has gone up almost as fast as baja has... well sell it to build the 2nd house and put whats left into investment income... things have slowed down here. the houseing market my correct itself. we figure that our total per month for the stuff you list will be about 1/2 of what were paying now for both houses... were averaging $500 a month now for utilities... people with 4000 sq ft homes down there are paying less that $120 if they run the a/c all summer... the utilities are subsidized so the average mexican citizen can afford them.. sounds like your into a real comfortable deal. the only real downside that ive found so far is that you cant have guns... kind of a bummer there... dont ask dont tell. roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

dare i ask what the crime rate is ... if any -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 the only real downside that ive found so far is that you cant have guns... kind of a bummer there... you would like gun law in the town that i live in kennesaw ga. im *required* to own a gun. this is from our city code of ordinances sec. 34-1. heads of households to maintain firearms. a in order to provide for the emergency management of the city and further in order to provide for and protect the safety security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm together with ammunition therefor. b exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine or persons convicted of a felony. code 1986 4-3-10 -- ken *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : denny

on wed 1 mar 2006 111350 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote yes it might tow more but is it smart to tow that much ok.. make that just 1 bunny to be safe.. *eg* be careful that furry wide ride is spending his time at gun shows. g roy i noticed his absence from the thread and thought that might bring him in.. *g* mac im really glad yall missed me so damned much...rabbit jokes where ever i look.....fat ass comments everywhere. id hate to think what itd be like if we werent friends... bg denny .

From : nosey

lol that would be all well and good except that daimler is not and has never been a us auto maker and now neither is chrysler since daimler took it over. which except for the fact that dc maintains several assembly plants and chrysler headquarters in michigan making the chrysler division a disctinctly american operation tbone would actually be correct. sorry max but i am correct. where a company builds its product has no effect on who owns it and since chrysler is now owned by a german manufacturer it is a german manufacturer regardless of where some of its plants are located. you are aware are you not that the new chairman of dc was hand picked because of his success in the chrysler division of dc and this means what oh yea not a damn thing. it is also worth mention that none of the listed major shareholders of dcx as of 12/31/05 was uae or any company from there. however since two months have elapsed and deutsch bank has long been interested in divesting itself of dcx stock its possible uae was a buyer. but then it would have hit at least one financial service site on the web right -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving over. -- if at fi

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

uh oh . . . . thats gonna make the anti-gun people very unhappy. and if you can send the city a note in my name congratulating them. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 budd cochran wrote dare i ask what the crime rate is ... if any when they passed the law in 1982 the crime rate dropped 89%. the crime rate here is still very low. -- ken *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mac davis

on thu 02 mar 2006 234411 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote im really glad yall missed me so damned much...rabbit jokes where ever i look.....fat ass comments everywhere. id hate to think what itd be like if we werent friends... bg denny wed probably just ignore your furry butt... who are you btw *rofl* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on thu 2 mar 2006 111616 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote most expensive quote weve had so far for baja was $125 for full coverage for the 2 of us including helo transport if needed... thats nice. helo tranport huh been there done that.g i havent since scenic southeast asia and hope never to need it again but its nice to know that the health plan includes it.. we could have gone a lot cheaper.... most houses down there are 1100 to 1300 sq foot 2 bedroom 2 bath... we went with a 1600 ft house with the 18 x 20 3rd bedroom being the shop when we move in... we need at least 2000 we found over the years that we both need our own space. shut up denny well were in a 4 bedroom 1600 foot here... i spend time in the shop and office she is on the patio or in the shop... in baja a lot of time is spent on the roof so square footage can be deceptive... about 1/3 of the roof will be tiles and the water and propane and 220v will be up there for the hot tub and bbq.. as to space... she loves the beach and ocean.. ok sea of cortez im more into having a beer on the roof and looking at it..so that works.. yup gotta have a net. i figure on taking my ss at 62 and we can live on that and my web work.. rental income from the 2nd house and bowls that i sell will be our cushion.. things have slowed

From : mac davis

on thu 2 mar 2006 125811 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dare i ask what the crime rate is ... if any very low in our area but im sure thats the exception.... were in a gringo community and our association fee pays for both local police and private security to patrol the area.. afaik there is much less violent crime but knowing that probably 80% of the guns used in crimes in calif. arent registered to the person that used it doesnt make me a gun control freak.. if nothing else id like to have a shotgun for home security and snakes.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on thu 2 mar 2006 125811 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dare i ask what the crime rate is ... if any sorry budd... you didnt quote nosey so i thought you were responding to the no guns thing.... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : denny

talk about being paranoid . . . . . nope....just scared they aint gonna get any easter eggs this year. denny .

From : mac davis

same here but prices are still going up.. just not crazy like the last 2 or 3 years where our house doubled in value... sounds like your into a real comfortable deal. weve done a lot of research... and it helps that the friends that took us down there are building their house near ours.. i never thought i could afford to retire until we went there with friends and fell in love with the place... and i damn sure never planned on living in any other state much less another country! the only real downside that ive found so far is that you cant have guns... kind of a bummer there... dont ask dont tell. major shit in mexico for weapon possession... hell our cc&rs even prohibit bows and slingshots.. lol just got pictures this morning from our friends who are down there this week... they poured our foundation and have started the walls... sort of exciting! never had a home built or lived in a new house before mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm . 222 313833 l0rg02h1krn9ta31cm9r12q4iuvdrhe9om@4ax.com on thu 2 mar 2006 144712 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote my first instinct was far out! then i started thinking about some of the lug nuts in our neighborhood and whether id feel good about them having guns.. *shudder* the only real downside that ive found so far is that you cant have guns... kind of a bummer there... you would like gun law in the town that i live in kennesaw ga. im *required* to own a gun. this is from our city code of ordinances sec. 34-1. heads of households to maintain firearms. a in order to provide for the emergency management of the city and further in order to provide for and protect the safety security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm together with ammunition therefor. b exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine or persons convicted of a felony. code 1986 4-3-10 mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

on thu 2 mar 2006 111616 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote most expensive quote weve had so far for baja was $125 for full coverage for the 2 of us including helo transport if needed... thats nice. helo tranport huh been there done that.g i havent since scenic southeast asia and hope never to need it again but its nice to know that the health plan includes it.. sure is handy to have. we could have gone a lot cheaper.... most houses down there are 1100 to 1300 sq foot 2 bedroom 2 bath... we went with a 1600 ft house with the 18 x 20 3rd bedroom being the shop when we move in... we need at least 2000 we found over the years that we both need our own space. shut up denny well were in a 4 bedroom 1600 foot here... i spend time in the shop and office she is on the patio or in the shop... in baja a lot of time is spent on the roof so square footage can be deceptive... about 1/3 of the roof will be tiles and the water and propane and 220v will be up there for the hot tub and bbq.. sounds real nice. as to space... she loves the beach and ocean.. ok sea of cortez im more into having a beer on the roof and looking at it..so that works.. im with her. i could spend the rest of my life on a beach with a supply of books. yup gotta have a net. i figure on taking my ss at 62 and we can live on that and my web work.. rental income from the 2nd house and bowls that i sell will be our cushion.. things have slowed down here. the houseing market my correct itself. same here but prices are still going up.. just not crazy like the last 2 or 3 years where our house doubled in value... sounds like your into a real comfortable deal. weve done a lot of research... and it helps that the friends that took us down there are building their house near ours.. i never thought i could afford to retire until we went there with friends and fell in love with the place... and i damn sure never planned on living in any other state much less another country! nice when aplan comes together. the only real downside that ive found so far is that you cant have guns... kind of a bummer there... dont ask dont tell. major shit in mexico for weapon possession... hell our cc&rs even prohibit bows and slingshots.. lol just got pictures this morning from our friends who are down there this week... they poured our foundation and have started the walls... sort of exciting! never had a home built or lived in a new house before bro post the pics. roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

on thu 02 mar 2006 234411 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote im really glad yall missed me so damned much...rabbit jokes where ever i look.....fat ass comments everywhere. id hate to think what itd be like if we werent friends... bg denny wed probably just ignore your furry butt... i think it will be damn hard to ignore anything that large.g who are you btw *rofl* why he is the man wearing the steel butt plate! bfg roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : nosey

mac davis wrote on thu 2 mar 2006 144712 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote my first instinct was far out! then i started thinking about some of the lug nuts in our neighborhood and whether id feel good about them having guns.. *shudder* im not sure how current this the most recent homicide was in 1989 and that was committed with a knife. the last gun homicide was in 1986 and it involved two young men from out of state who were staying in a hotel. since the law was passed in 1982 the number of burglaries per 1000 has dropped from 11 to under 3 it seems that burglars arent too keen on breaking into an armed persons house. furthermore since the law was passed there have been no cases of domestic violence involving guns nor any injuries to children caused by firearms. from http//www.u-turn.net/3-1/oxen.html -- ken .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

oh i like that sign. a red carpet and a chrome wheelbarrow would be a bit much though . . .whaddaya think -- budd cochran on fri 3 mar 2006 132930 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote mac davis wrote on thu 2 mar 2006 144712 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote my first instinct was far out! then i started thinking about some of the lug nuts in our neighborhood and whether id feel good about them having guns.. *shudder* im not sure how current this the most recent homicide was in 1989 and that was committed with a knife. the last gun homicide was in 1986 and it involved two young men from out of state who were staying in a hotel. since the law was passed in 1982 the number of burglaries per 1000 has dropped from 11 to under 3 it seems that burglars arent too keen on breaking into an armed persons house. furthermore since the law was passed there have been no cases of domestic violence involving guns nor any injuries to children caused by firearms. from http//www.u-turn.net/3-1/oxen.html i hear that about burglaries... i tell anti-gun folks that if the really believe that guns should be banned they should post a sign in front of their house that says gun free home or something like that.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

anybody got a welder -- budd cochran on sat 04 mar 2006 002546 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote talk about being paranoid . . . . . nope....just scared they aint gonna get any easter eggs this year. denny if that plate is covering the source you can keep those umm... eggs bugs... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

yeah i did. i top posted like i did just now. vbg but thats ok i was trying to bring out that gun ownership does reduce the crime potential . . . whos dumb enough to break into a house if you know you can get killed before you can run back out btw is that no legged or two legged snakes -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on thu 2 mar 2006 125811 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote dare i ask what the crime rate is ... if any sorry budd... you didnt quote nosey so i thought you were responding to the no guns thing.... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

and to think the last two items are the most popular reasons for banning gun ownership . . . . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 mac davis wrote on thu 2 mar 2006 144712 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote my first instinct was far out! then i started thinking about some of the lug nuts in our neighborhood and whether id feel good about them having guns.. *shudder* im not sure how current this the most recent homicide was in 1989 and that was committed with a knife. the last gun homicide was in 1986 and it involved two young men from out of state who were staying in a hotel. since the law was passed in 1982 the number of burglaries per 1000 has dropped from 11 to under 3 it seems that burglars arent too keen on breaking into an armed persons house. furthermore since the law was passed there have been no cases of domestic violence involving guns nor any injuries to children caused by firearms. from http//www.u-turn.net/3-1/oxen.html -- ken *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

talk about being paranoid . . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on thu 02 mar 2006 234411 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote im really glad yall missed me so damned much...rabbit jokes where ever i look.....fat ass comments everywhere. id hate to think what itd be like if we werent friends... bg denny wed probably just ignore your furry butt... i think it will be damn hard to ignore anything that large.g who are you btw *rofl* why he is the man wearing the steel butt plate! bfg roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

i was talking about you furry friend. vbg -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 talk about being paranoid . . . . . nope....just scared they aint gonna get any easter eggs this year. denny *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : denny

----- original message ----- from roy roy@home.net sent friday march 03 2006 105 pm subject re happy birthday budd! on thu 02 mar 2006 234411 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote im really glad yall missed me so damned much...rabbit jokes where ever i look.....fat ass comments everywhere. id hate to think what itd be like if we werent friends... bg denny wed probably just ignore your furry butt... i think it will be damn hard to ignore anything that large.g while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... who are you btw *rofl* why he is the man wearing the steel butt plate! bfg feels like the sucker is embedded in my shoulder. that ole mosin will kick if ya dont hold it tight. going to go over to a show in ft wayne tomorrow and see if i can find something other that steel. denny .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

talk about being paranoid . . . . . -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 on thu 02 mar 2006 234411 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote im really glad yall missed me so damned much...rabbit jokes where ever i look.....fat ass comments everywhere. id hate to think what itd be like if we werent friends... bg denny wed probably just ignore your furry butt... i think it will be damn hard to ignore anything that large.g who are you btw *rofl* why he is the man wearing the steel butt plate! bfg roy mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mac davis

on sat 04 mar 2006 002546 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote talk about being paranoid . . . . . nope....just scared they aint gonna get any easter eggs this year. denny if that plate is covering the source you can keep those umm... eggs bugs... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on fri 3 mar 2006 120020 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote just got pictures this morning from our friends who are down there this week... they poured our foundation and have started the walls... sort of exciting! never had a home built or lived in a new house before bro post the pics. roy cant do pictures here ill have to start a web page.. damn i hate web pages.. lol mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on fri 3 mar 2006 132930 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote mac davis wrote on thu 2 mar 2006 144712 -0500 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote my first instinct was far out! then i started thinking about some of the lug nuts in our neighborhood and whether id feel good about them having guns.. *shudder* im not sure how current this the most recent homicide was in 1989 and that was committed with a knife. the last gun homicide was in 1986 and it involved two young men from out of state who were staying in a hotel. since the law was passed in 1982 the number of burglaries per 1000 has dropped from 11 to under 3 it seems that burglars arent too keen on breaking into an armed persons house. furthermore since the law was passed there have been no cases of domestic violence involving guns nor any injuries to children caused by firearms. from http//www.u-turn.net/3-1/oxen.html i hear that about burglaries... i tell anti-gun folks that if the really believe that guns should be banned they should post a sign in front of their house that says gun free home or something like that.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on fri 3 mar 2006 121638 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote yeah i did. i top posted like i did just now. vbg but thats ok i was trying to bring out that gun ownership does reduce the crime potential . . . whos dumb enough to break into a house if you know you can get killed before you can run back out btw is that no legged or two legged snakes im only afraid of 3 kinds of snakes.. big ones little ones and live ones.. *yuk* id much rather deal with the 2 legged kind.. more experience with em and easier targets.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : mac davis

on sat 04 mar 2006 002741 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... hmm... beware of cuban whale hunters mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

on sat 04 mar 2006 002741 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... hmm... beware of cuban whale hunters mac here it is the jackals are united again! is there no honor among cheap shot artists i guess not. this is where the refugee from brokeback mountain with his trusty butt plate joins forces the gray haired friggin hippy. probably will build a catapult to bust through his buddies butt plate. sounds like a movie to me. probably filmed in mexico. gbmfg hey bro did ya get the pics up on you w/site roy https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : denny

anybody got a welder i got a couple of them but you aint gonna use either one on my ass!! bg denny .

From : denny

on sat 04 mar 2006 002741 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... hmm... beware of cuban whale hunters mac here it is the jackals are united again! is there no honor among cheap shot artists i guess not. ya got that right!! bg this is where the refugee from brokeback mountain with his trusty butt plate joins forces the gray haired friggin hippy. it seems like right now its more than you can handle.... probably will build a catapult to bust through his buddies butt plate. sounds like a movie to me. probably filmed in mexico. gbmfg we gotta work a whale on a fla. beach into the theme before the shooting starts. denny .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on fri 3 mar 2006 121638 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote yeah i did. i top posted like i did just now. vbg but thats ok i was trying to bring out that gun ownership does reduce the crime potential . . . whos dumb enough to break into a house if you know you can get killed before you can run back out btw is that no legged or two legged snakes im only afraid of 3 kinds of snakes.. big ones little ones and live ones.. *yuk* im only afraid of the poisonous ones rattlers cobras vipers cottonmouths congress. . . . . . id much rather deal with the 2 legged kind.. more experience with em and easier targets.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm everything an easy target to a scatter gun. budd *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : roy

on sat 04 mar 2006 002741 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... hmm... beware of cuban whale hunters mac here it is the jackals are united again! is there no honor among cheap shot artists i guess not. ya got that right!! bg this is where the refugee from brokeback mountain with his trusty butt plate joins forces the gray haired friggin hippy. it seems like right now its more than you can handle.... probably will build a catapult to bust through his buddies butt plate. sounds like a movie to me. probably filmed in mexico. gbmfg we gotta work a whale on a fla. beach into the theme before the shooting starts. beach!! you both wont go near a beach. rabbits dont swim especially with a 20 pound hunk of steel butt plate tied to its wide ass. the hippy nah youd never get him to the east side. you two have probably spent too much time hooked up to the machine to come up with any theme. but have at it.vbg roy denny .

From : denny

on sat 04 mar 2006 002741 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... hmm... beware of cuban whale hunters mac here it is the jackals are united again! is there no honor among cheap shot artists i guess not. ya got that right!! bg this is where the refugee from brokeback mountain with his trusty butt plate joins forces the gray haired friggin hippy. it seems like right now its more than you can handle.... probably will build a catapult to bust through his buddies butt plate. sounds like a movie to me. probably filmed in mexico. gbmfg we gotta work a whale on a fla. beach into the theme before the shooting starts. beach!! you both wont go near a beach. rabbits dont swim especially with a 20 pound hunk of steel butt plate tied to its wide ass. the hippy nah youd never get him to the east side. face it...were just scared of spotting the beached whale....... you two have probably spent too much time hooked up to the machine to come up with any theme. but have at it.vbg and this coming from the inventor of the machine. you havent been the same since ole red snuck it away from you. i got to touch my next hog plinker today. a barrett .50 i dont know if i can talk the wife into this just yet. http//www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles82a1.htm donations accepted!! vbg denny .

From : roy

on sat 04 mar 2006 002741 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... hmm... beware of cuban whale hunters mac here it is the jackals are united again! is there no honor among cheap shot artists i guess not. ya got that right!! bg this is where the refugee from brokeback mountain with his trusty butt plate joins forces the gray haired friggin hippy. it seems like right now its more than you can handle.... probably will build a catapult to bust through his buddies butt plate. sounds like a movie to me. probably filmed in mexico. gbmfg we gotta work a whale on a fla. beach into the theme before the shooting starts. beach!! you both wont go near a beach. rabbits dont swim especially with a 20 pound hunk of steel butt plate tied to its wide ass. the hippy nah youd never get him to the east side. face it...were just scared of spotting the beached whale....... cmon when you were in maine green peace tried to drag you into the water every time you stepped on the sand. you two have probably spent too much time hooked up to the machine to come up with any theme. but have at it.vbg and this coming from the inventor of the machine. you havent been the same since ole red snuck it away from you. no no. the last time anybody heard a report about the machine was when it was in macs truck headed for washington to meet up with red. also at the same time there was a report of a floppy eared creature haulin ass west bound on i-90. now it is between the three of ya! bfg i got to touch my next hog plinker today. a barrett .50 i dont know if i can talk the wife into this just yet. they are quite a weapon. fire that thing at your local gun club.g http//www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles82a1.htm link wouldnt work for me. donations accepted!! vbg in the mail.g roy denny .

From : denny

they are quite a weapon. fire that thing at your local gun club.g i dont think theyd let me. http//www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles82a1.htm link wouldnt work for me. go to barrettrifles.com then click on rifles then on competion and then on 82a1. donations accepted!! vbg in the mail.g i havent recieved it yet. send some more denny roy denny .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

what are you talking about i was thinking of welding that steel buttplate true but why are you worried about your butt do you have something to confess my friend ok just say hi my name is denny and its been a short time since i put on my buttplate. see now you feel better. always glad to help my friends. -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 anybody got a welder i got a couple of them but you aint gonna use either one on my ass!! bg denny *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : mac davis

on sat 4 mar 2006 135410 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote here it is the jackals are united again! is there no honor among cheap shot artists i guess not. who was it that said never resist a cheap sot of something like that.... this is where the refugee from brokeback mountain with his trusty butt plate joins forces the gray haired friggin hippy. probably will build a catapult to bust through his buddies butt plate. sounds like a movie to me. probably filmed in mexico. gbmfg hey bro did ya get the pics up on you w/site roy hell no probably wouldnt do it that fast on a clients site... lol ill mail ya a couple of small pics... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on sat 04 mar 2006 002741 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote while were on the subject of large.........have ya thought of the consequences of your big belly laying out on that beach your thinking about think of the poor innocent kids.. the trauma.... hmm... beware of cuban whale hunters mac here it is the jackals are united again! is there no honor among cheap shot artists i guess not. ya got that right!! bg this is where the refugee from brokeback mountain with his trusty butt plate joins forces the gray haired friggin hippy. it seems like right now its more than you can handle.... probably will build a catapult to bust through his buddies butt plate. sounds like a movie to me. probably filmed in mexico. gbmfg we gotta work a whale on a fla. beach into the theme before the shooting starts. beach!! you both wont go near a beach. rabbits dont swim especially with a 20 pound hunk of steel butt plate tied to its wide ass. the hippy nah youd never get him to the east side. face it...were just scared of spotting the beached whale....... cmon when you were in maine green peace tried to drag you into the water every time you stepped on the sand. you two have probably spent too much time hooked up to the machine to come up with any theme. but have at it.vbg and this coming from the inventor of the machine. you havent been the same since ole red snuck it away from you. no no. the last time anybody heard a report about the machine was when it was in macs truck headed for washington to meet up with red. also at the same time there was a report of a floppy eared creature haulin ass west bound on i-90. now it is between the three of ya! bfg now that was a mental picture i didnt need . . . . . . . i got to touch my next hog plinker today. a barrett .50 i dont know if i can talk the wife into this just yet. they are quite a weapon. fire that thing at your local gun club.g http//www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles82a1.htm link wouldnt work for me. donations accepted!! vbg in the mail.g roy denny -- budd cochran romans 323 romans 623 john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 *** free account sponsored by secureix.com *** *** encrypt your internet usage with a free vpn account from http//www.secureix.com *** .

From : craig c

on feb 21 550 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote he is punishing us by leaving the group once again hell be back. like a raging case of the clap. craig c. .

From : roy

on feb 20 1240 am nathan in montana montanajee...@aol.com wrote .....beat ya again my friend. - i hope you enjoy your day as i will mine. -- nathan in montanahttp//concealedcarryforum.comhttp//1911talk.comhttp//glockcarry.com ok nate wises budd happy birthday and budd doesnt reply to his friend... hmmmm probably email. .

From : beekeep

on wed 21 feb 2007 152904 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on feb 20 1240 am nathan in montana montanajee...@aol.com wrote .....beat ya again my friend. - i hope you enjoy your day as i will mine. -- nathan in montanahttp//concealedcarryforum.comhttp//1911talk.comhttp//glockcarry.com ok nate wises budd happy birthday and budd doesnt reply to his friend... hmmmm probably email. more likely ignorance. beekeep .

From : tbone

on feb 20 1240 am nathan in montana montanajee...@aol.com wrote .....beat ya again my friend. - i hope you enjoy your day as i will mine. -- nathan in montanahttp//concealedcarryforum.comhttp//1911talk.comhttp//glockcarry.co m ok nate wises budd happy birthday and budd doesnt reply to his friend... hmmmm he is punishing us by leaving the group once again or possibly trying to avoid being blamed for the creation of the very long winded and pointless mormon lies thread. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .