Go Pat's!!
From : roy
Q: roy wrote pats by 14 roy rootin for the iggles to lose by less than that maybe even eek out a win. still 0-0 right now. so far so good. .
Replies:
From : roy
knocking sound on a diesel engine theres an oxymoron if i ever saw one!!! ;- well yeah - guess i should have clarified that a little more... an extreme abnormal knocking sound .
From : jerry
on sun 6 feb 2005 141416 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote i just bought a new 2005 3500 with the turbo 600. ill let ya know if something happens.. whats the mileage range of the failures -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- ----------------------------------------------------- mileage does not seem to matter. ive replaced injectors on trucks with only 1500 miles all the way to 80000 miles. if these injectors appear to be limited to this region i will be leaning torward possible poor fuel quality. brent master ase and gold certified chrysler technician looking at the tdr it would seem not to be region sensitive roy and not limited to dodge! look at the chevy and ford ngs. chevy seems to have the worst problems in fact. someone suggested that it may be due to the new injectors being built to handle the new emission requirements. i have no idea but it sounded good. seems with cummins it is #3 its good to be last....sometimes..;-- -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .
From : roy
roy wrote pats by 14 roy well it wasnt pretty but a win is a win. never have seen the pats take so many penaltys. roy you can do better than that. one of us should celebrate. hint- its not going to be me. ;^ .
From : nosey
no entry found for ignorancy. did you mean ignorance if your intent was to show that he has less than average intelligence you started off with the wrong word to begin with. =a0=a0in your defense i dont recall any mechanics ive worked with who could claim to be decent welders and i wouldnt expect it of a mechanic. its not part and parcel of your job. i think that was a cheap shot but this is usenet and youve been accusatory towards the group in general so you should expect some of this. while i understand the points youre making i dont know what you expect us to do about your problems. ive been on both sides of the equation mechanic and customer. my choice was to get out of the business and i dont think i was nearly as unhappy as you purport to be. quite frankly ive had enough of dealers. if i never have to deal with one again it wont disappoint me in the least. buying used is much less hassle used car sellers are amateur liars and when caught typically dont deny theyre lying. =a0=a0since youre aware your posting of alignment specs has been on the tdr perhaps youve perused the site did you also notice the number of people over there attempting to use the word stealership you may have also noticed the site doesnt seem to permit that anymore. is that censorship or sticking your head in the sand do dealers have a customer relationship problem if so why if not why the dissatisfaction amongst the happy properly serviced customers =a0=a0robert ------------------------------------------------ spelling and proper english is a shortcoming of mine - im ignorant in the matter as you might say. as jerry pointed out we are all ignorant to something. remember that i was flamed first for the use of my posting signature my reponse was directed at those individuals wishing to get a rise from me. welding was actually a craft i was roped into when in the army. while i preferred a career in a dealership afterwards i pursued welding as a hobby and attended every vocational course i could afford. the issues you claim to understand are not problems of mine or customer/dealer relationship issues. they were questions i posted to entice conversation from both sides. i thought that is what an ng is about. why shouldnt techs have the right to put warranty kings on the spot in this group better here than on the service drive. not all dealers are right not all customers are right. thats why i ask my questions here. dealer departments have a right to frustration with customers. all businesses do - just keep it out of the work place like i am now. i am simply looking for customer reasoning so i can better understand them example customer rants to the service writer that his $50k vehicle should not have that rattle and wants it fixed now now now! understandable. whats not understandable is why it is no longer a $50k vehicle when taken to the quick lube for service and the sixteen year old kid has his next date on his mind. oops -filter left loose and engine craps. now that customer returns to the dealer and demands warranty coverage on the engine since the oil light should have come on sooner. when the dealer says no warranty - the customer once more rants about the money the vehicle cost and posts that dealers dont know what the hell theyre doing. this is why i post the questions to try and make sense of issues like this that occur too frequently. brent didnt sign my certs hoping to be flamed by others .
From : nosey
pats by 14 roy well it wasnt pretty but a win is a win. never have seen the pats take so many penaltys. roy .
From : denny
dodgeewe wrote its over and im supposed to go to phila tomorrow... good thing were taking someone elses car! phila fans hopefully will stop rioting by tomorrow morning! ya but they usually flip over or burn cop cars or small compacts not rams. .
From : dodgeewe dodgeewe
denny wrote it twas a good game... denny cmbba i didnt care who won. i won $100. yay! .
From : nosey
its over and im supposed to go to phila tomorrow... good thing were taking someone elses car! phila fans hopefully will stop rioting by tomorrow morning! -michele .
From : nosey
i take it that the 48re is a bit more durable than the 47re. or would i be wrong you would be right. more clutches especially in the od area better oiling to the od section and lots of other little improvements. imo the stock converter is still too loose and stalls too high but you cant ask for everything in a stock unit what year did the cad go away that is a good thing. started in 03 for the 2500/3500 trucks. .
From : miles
bigironram wrote from drgn1400@webtv.net brent d date 2/6/2005 424 pm central standard time perhaps i can chose to just sign brent and bring myself down to the level of ignorancy you have displayed. got any information worth sharing or just flaming as an immature child when making a charge that someone else is less than well educated it helps if you dont make up forms of words that dont exist. ignorancy http//dictionary.reference.com/searchq=ignorancy no entry found for ignorancy. did you mean ignorance if your intent was to show that he has less than average intelligence you started off with the wrong word to begin with. in your defense i dont recall any mechanics ive worked with who could claim to be decent welders and i wouldnt expect it of a mechanic. its not part and parcel of your job. i think that was a cheap shot but this is usenet and youve been accusatory towards the group in general so you should expect some of this. while i understand the points youre making i dont know what you expect us to do about your problems. ive been on both sides of the equation mechanic and customer. my choice was to get out of the business and i dont think i was nearly as unhappy as you purport to be. quite frankly ive had enough of dealers. if i never have to deal with one again it wont disappoint me in the least. buying used is much less hassle used car sellers are amateur liars and when caught typically dont deny theyre lying. since youre aware your posting of alignment specs has been on the tdr perhaps youve perused the site did you also notice the number of people over there attempting to use the word stealership you may have also noticed the site doesnt seem to permit that anymore. is that censorship or sticking your head in the sand do dealers have a customer relationship problem if so why if not why the dissatisfaction amongst the happy properly serviced customers robert when brent made his first post a few days ago i started reading it with interest because i understood where he was coming from having seen this kind of treatment from customers. not just in car dealerships but in all areas of customer service. i was in agreement with him for about half his post as i think some people such as the ones you mentioned on the tdr lump all dealerships together in a bad light. however it soon became apparent that all he was doing was whining about all customers that questioned anything concerning the work on their vehicle. first red flag. then he claimed dealers are not reimbursed for warranty work. second red flag. he went on to claim that if he spent more time on a repair because of the customers complaint than the book allowed he lost money. third red flag. as for his signature line well we have several people around here that sign with a qualifying signature such as mike with i think its chrysler service manager. nothing wrong with that as it qualifies the persons post. but when i see things like master gold certified super yada yada prejudice it may be on my part but it kind of throws another red flag but everyone was simply poking a little fun. something he had better get use to around here. anyway brent has now spun off to complaining about independent mechanics doctors and anyone else that offers one word of criticism towards him. so his attempt to question my or anyone elses intelligence carries no weight what so ever. he is defiantly not going to enjoy this group with his attitude. one thing that puzzles me is why is he having face to face confrontations with the all customers in the first place. during one period i bought three trucks and two cars from the same dealership over a 8 year period. now i bought all from the same salesman and there were only two different service managers and 3 different service writers that i dealt with all that time for trouble or warranty repairs. i can only recall once that i was actually asked to enter the shop area to talk to a mechanic. seems to me someone is not doing their job up front. jerry .
From : nosey
brent d wrote re need some advice youre the gold certified mechanic so why are you asking us. a welder isnt in your repertoire of tools thats a claim made only when he puts the word master in front of the title. sometimes he forgets that................. jerry --------------------------------------------------- perhaps i can chose to just sign brent and bring myself down to the level of ignorancy you have displayed. got any information worth sharing or just flaming as an immature child oh okay ............. so anyone that simply signs as jerry roy tom john budd mike denny ........ are simply ignorant because they dont use a fake title like you........okay. by the way little boy everyone on this earth is ignorant about something. maybe you might look up the word so you will know the proper context to use it next time. but you on the other hand are just plan stupid......... and yes flaming a little cry baby like yourself does have its pleasurable side .............maybe you might back up and try entering on the right foot and see what happens................. have a nice day ..... master...... jerry .
From : denny
you may be right there but it doesnt seem to help them with repairs. jam i know it may seem that way but the automotive service industry is one of the most technically challenging you will find. it aint easy repairing vehicles today. i would challenge anyone who is interested to come and spend a week in my or one of my techs shoes.... i think you would change your tune and maybe have a new respect for what we are up against. mike as an electronics technician i have to work on everything from tubes to satellites. on top of that i had to read the service manual and do the research so i could tell my dodge technicians what to do. i guess i shouldnt stereotype all factory techs just because three dealers in pittsburgh suck. jam jam it took to the sixth computer repair person till this damned computer would work and hes just a guy that works on them in his basement in the evenings. the repair industry is all the same no matter what youre working on. you just have to find the right person and it doesnt matter if he works for a dealership or under a shadetree. denny cmbba .
From : nosey
brent d wrote thenewguy wrote brent just curious. are you related to tbone ------------------------------------------------------ since i am not familier with tbone his personality and postings; i assume you will state the nature of your sarcastic post so i can respond to it. t-bone is a unique individual. he has a sound mechanical knowledge of dodge trucks. he is opinionated. he doesnt care who disagrees with him and will debate anything he feels strongly about. he is tenacious and will sacrifice tact to make a bold point without thinking twice about it. perhaps he isnt unique after all. are you guys related .