Global Warming hits Parish, NY
From : fmb
Q: you forgot the call your buddy floyd in alaska defense. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author reposted and updated from alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks by roys request. snoman says... you know i pick and choose what i respond to because it is not about being shown up but rather not stooping as low as you do especail since i see that you posted 5 responces in a little over a hour in this thread. you must really be awfull insecure. i actually feel abit sorry for you and some of your cohorts at times because it appears that you may never grow up. ----------------- thesnoblower.com here are defenses snoball falls back on everytime he knows hes lost the argument... aside from disappearing. 1. using the child defense 11 times. 1 such a child 2 you are such a child 3 and act like a child 4 you are such a child again 5 to act like a child 6 you must have been a troubled child 7 is such a inmature child 8 you act like a spoiled child 9 stop acting like a spoiled child 10 uou act like a child 11 what a child!keep it up is it makes you feel good andf gives you a cheap thrill like you have never had a typo. 2. used the insecure defense 19 times. 1 you must really be awfull insecure. 2 just like the law of insecure posters causing problems 3 you must be very insecure. 4 these are the ones that are so insecure and threatened 5 you must be really insecure. 6 how this stuff work must really make you feel insecure 7 cause trouble to make yourselfs feel less insecure. 8 what ever makes you feel less insecure 9 you must be awful insecure. 10 and it makes you really insecure 11 you must beone very insecure person! 12 children like yourself that are insecure add to the child list 13 you must be a very insecure person. 14 we do understand that you are very insecure. must have a mouse in his pocket. 15 you must be a very insecure person. 16 boy sombody is really insecure here 17 you must be realy insecure or something. 18 one it show how insecure your really are and 19 you must be realy insecure. 3. using grow up defense 9 times. 1 it appears that you may never grow up. 2 if you want to see a half wit look in the mirror. grow up 3 i am still waiting for you to grow up. 5 some kids never grow up. rec.outdoors.rv-travel 6 we can all hope that you do grow up one day as remote as it seems. that mouse again. 7 i wonder if you will ever grow up 8 do us all a favor *** and grow up some. 9 grow up and get a life! 10 we all hope you do grow up one day mouse in his pocket and finally 4. using the inmature defense 9 times. yeah im not sure what inmature is either. 1-3 ...drool/dribble coming out of a inmature childs mouth that serves no purpose and is unwanted just like most of his inmature statments. you too should think before you try to pass judgement and type because you observations are incorrect. i have a background in electrical and mechnical engineering and a mcse. if it is mechanical i can tell you how and why it does or does not work and calculate yeild strength of axles if you want if i have a weakness it is prehaps i get too complex with some of my explanations and wrongly assume that someone can understand the obvious when inded they infact cannot. also it is a classic inmature responce for... 4 you are the inmature child here 5 keep up the inmature work!!! 6 is such a inmature child 7 you forgot to add that these inmature attempts 8 but you are doing a great job show the web how inmature your are and how threatened you must feel that 9 it is so sad to be so inmature and hide in the shadows. he never got immature right as it never turned up in a search of his post. this took less than 30 minutes to compile. if i ever get enough time to do it the next list will be snoballs follies. yeah that will take long time to compile... might hit a upload limit posting that. .
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From : miles
the way things are going itll soon be illegal to be married at all. and wed all probably be better off! ;- -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com .
From : miles
oh i get it. once the church makes a declaration then history no longer exists. i have not addressed their history that is what it is. youre trying to blame the lds church for what the flds church is doing. no matter what the history your argument is without merit. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com .
From : azwiley1
on sun 11 feb 2007 142601 -0600 greg o goo1959spam@cableone.net wrote i made a trailer and want to get it weighed. went to a truck stop but my trailer was too light for their scales. any other suggestions i check with the guys that haul your scrap. the local yard has a very accurate truck scale. it accurately weighs my 195 pounds! good idea. thanks. i .
From : zapalac
on sun 11 feb 2007 140717 -0600 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote weigh the truck and trailer as a combo and then weigh the truck only. subtract one from the other and voila! this will work but if you want to measure axle load on trailer you need to weigh trailer axle only with it hitched up or with tongue on a stand off of scale with axle still on it. i do this a lot ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : azwiley1
on sun 11 feb 2007 154317 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote it is okay idiot you have no credibility here at this group. you are a riot! you can keep you head in the sand if you want as the choice is yours. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : hk
hk wrote lake ontario - it *is* lake effect. geesh! the heavy snows are not limited to the downwind lake vicinity. try again. .
From : miles
nathan in montana wrote they already have rules against polygamy. they will excommunicate any members who practice polygamy. tell me what more you would have them do they dont actively seek out such offenders. it isnt until an arrest is made despite public complaints prior. how are they supposed to clean up anything outside of their own church/control sigh...you miss the point. the mormon church has failed to take a strong public stance against sex offenders in their church. the outside sects are inside their own state. look who the government leaders and the mormon church leaders are...see any ties i havent mentioned legalities at all you most certainly did just that. you stated several times about how the mormon church abides by the law as part of your arguments here. im simply questioning your blanket criticism for areas in which they have absolutely no control. its not a matter of control. its a public stance an attitude to take. however they could take public complaints more seriously rather than ignore them until arrests are made. what how much more firm can they be than kicking out members who violate the rules against polygamy they only do so after said member is arrested rarely before despite public complaints often for years before an arrest is made. my point is that the church should clean itself up rather than wait for the law to do so for them. i see. youre more interested in symbolism over substance. you want a feel good gesture. well unlike the public school system the mormon church isnt dependent upon popular elections. they gain members by promoting their values. ignoring complaints until an arrest does them more harm than good. with regards to elections i think you need to note the ties between utahs gov. and the church leaders. in many cases they are one in the same. their policy is clear and effective for the most part. youre being unrealistic in your expectations youre blaming the mormon church for what individuals do that is against the mormon church. it makes no sense. ive said no such thing. i dont blame the church for what individuals to. thats you who are bent on that assumption and refuse to listen. i am saying it is in the churches own interest to stop turning its back and become pro-active in stopping these crimes that exist inside their own church. .
From : chad
on sat 10 feb 2007 194545 -0600 greg o goo1959spam@cableone.net wrote as for which religion teaches the truth then why when the scholars put together the books of the bible they leave some out there are many opinions why but unless you were standing in the room 2000 years ago with the catholic fathers i doubt we will ever know. google apocrophy bible if you dont know what i an referring to. i have read some of the books of the apocrophy and wonder why myself! as far as i am concerned we all are given all the information our religious fathers want us to know. pretty much the same as the government but thats another conversation! greg because to be included in the bible they must be inspired by god funny thing about the catholic bible. even it will tell you things that the catholic church believes in that the bible specifically tells you not to do. i find that simply amazing myself. as far as weather or not there was any catholic fathers walking the earth with jesus.... i find that hard to believe especially when jesus himself said to call no man father except him. the catholic church didnt even exist when jesus was walking the earth. the only church that existed in that time was the church. .
From : robertpatrick
wrongly assume that someone can understand the obvious when inded they infact cannot. also it is a classic inmature responce for... 4 you are the inmature child here 5 keep up the inmature work!!! 6 is such a inmature child 7 you forgot to add that these inmature attempts 8 but you are doing a great job show the web how inmature your are and how threatened you must feel that 9 it is so sad to be so inmature and hide in the shadows. he never got immature right as it never turned up in a search of his post. this took less than 30 minutes to compile. if i ever get enough time to do it the next list will be snoballs follies. yeah that will take long time to compile... might hit a upload limit posting that. all you are really proving is how childish you are. anyone with a unbiased veiw can see that in you vain attempt to try to hurt me you are only making yourself look worse. knock yourself out even though it is not have the effect you want it too. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : beekeep
gee - then you should have been following these religious threads a month ago or so. i dont typically follow religous threads. this one caught my attention because it involved the mormon church which i find intriguing because it threatens so many other self-righteous christians for some reason that i cannot explain or understand. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com same here plus i am a utahn. i think utah is a really good place to live. perhaps it is the mormans that make it so nice perhaps it is the isolation that makes it nice i dont know. it burns my ass when i hear people slam mormans as though they are somehow more fucked up than any other religion. a few years ago i was at an irish pub in new york city. the irish band somehow caught wind that i was from utah so the morman jokes immediately began to fly. especially about how many wives i had. the mormans didnt invent the concept of multiple wives but just because they practised it a hundred years ago that is all they are known for. bg .
From : miles
a man with fucked up values. try looking up some info on joseph smith. the bom is regarded as inspired in some segments of the mormon/lds church. are you advocating that i/we take the writings of a morally challenged man as inspired thats what the mormon/lds church advocates ... 3 no i have not read the book of mormon. i have never touched a burner on the stove either. not at all comparable. you cannot possibly debate the merits of any book without first reading the dang book. very comparable. i dont have to read it to know that it is a book written by a loony. i can look at the followers and know that it contains guidance that is in direct violation of good values ... this is exactly what i do. i stated if i were to start going to church. so ... is it the multiple wife thing that turns you on about the mormons craig c. . 222 329898 iylzh.78570$5q6.62774@fe17.lga hk wrote lake ontario - it *is* lake effect. geesh! the last time lake ontario froze was 1976 and before that was 1934. tbones claim of global warming causing lake effect snow because of lack of freezing on lake ontario is pure bs. .
From : miles
on sun 11 feb 2007 135904 -0500 chris thompson kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net wrote if hes got a small utility trailer 3 300lb bathroom scales could do the job. we dont know what size trailer hes trying to weigh. but since its so light that it wont show on a truck scale i would guess that its a small utility trailer or 4 wheeler trailer something of that sort. my guess is that it is about 1700 lbs. i want to know for sure how much it weighs. i .
From : tbone
you cannot hold the mormon church responsible for what those outside the mormon church do. the mormon church does not allow polygamy. what people outside the mormon church claiming to be old-school mormons do is not the responsibility of the mormon church. you missed the point. every few years there are arrests in utah and elsewhere of active mormon church members for polygamy and sexual child abuse. the mormon church needs to be more pro-active in fighting against these people as well as outside sects in order to protect and promote their own. and again i will state that these practices are against the rules of the mormon church. if they are real mormons then they are acting outside of the practices beliefs teachings and rules of the church. every year there are school teachers who are arrested for sleeping with their students. this does not mean the school system itself did anything wrong. every year there are police officers who are arrested for committing all sorts of crimes. this does not mean the police department itself did anything wrong. so long as the mormon church official policy is against polygamy and their teachings are consistant with their rules then you cannot hold them responsible for what people do on their own members or not as they are doing it in contradiction to the teachings practices and beliefs of the church.. as for these other sects not using the same name that would be wrong. they simply add the word fundementalist to the name flds vs. lds flds is not the same church as the lds church. it is an entirely different church founded to promote its own beliefs because the real mormon church abolished the practice of polygamy in order to obey the law. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com .
From : miles
tom- something struck me today after reading a tsb..... the tsb stated that if the clockspring was broken things like the airbag and cruise control would be inoperative leading me to believe that if the clockspring breaks it opens the circuits that it makes up...... in the case of my uncommanded continuously blowing horn that would require a closed circuit.....failure of the clockspring...from what i read....creates an open circuit.....even though i did the troubleshooting and it showed good.....should i look harder at the horn relay or the horn switch assy the ultra conservative route would be....replace the horn relay clockspring and horn switch assy.....my new question is is the horn switch assy and airbag cover available as a separate part or am i in for a complete airbag assy..... thoughts rich i dont think its the horn relay because i said earlier....the horn just started blowing by itself when i turned the wheel left so in my mind it is either the horn switch assy or clockspring assy. thats what had me suspecting the clockspring... the fact that it happened as you were turning the wheel. i just didnt want you to go ahead and replace it without checking the other simpler causes first. unfortunately it sounds like the other possible causes have been ruled out by your troubleshooting. i have been having intermittant trouble getting the cruise control activated/deactivated green cruise light to come on and go off so maybe it is the clockspring.... pretty safe bet at this point... .
From : miles
roy wrote i finally got fed up messing with this and called alpine. the tech guy says nope it does what it does. not like a garmin. have to continually reprogram it. oh well better than nothing. thats odd. i have not tried it but i can clearly see a menu option to avoid a road on mine. that would certainly cause it to reroute another way. most of the time it routes correctly but i have seen some mess ups. the ae revision i have does work better than the older ad mostly because the maps have been updated at least in my area. .
From : miles
azwiley1 wrote oh here we go extracted from http//lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ online/ccd/snowfall.html my point was that on average the west averages far more snow than the east. take a look at the ski areas which are all in the mountains in both the east and the west. the east has to rely on snow making for most areas and ski on hard pack and ice most of the time. not so for most of the west. alta ut with its 500 a year is tops!! .
From : azwiley1
on feb 13 655 am roy r...@home.net wrote looking at the weather you are going to get your ass kicked. reading about blizzard warnings. this is where diesel comes in handy. hope ya have gas stored. remember never get out of the truck.g i guess with this snow and all the money ya make we can upgrade the meal from wc.vbg roy maybe good ole blowjob err opps i mean snojob will have to come service him! .
From : azwiley1
on feb 13 732 am nosey kfre...@removethis.hotmail.com wrote miles wrote azwiley1 wrote stick around if you can handle it. not only will it get better but it will get worse. it used to be that 20% of the time it would get worse. now its 30% of the time that things get worse. thats a 50% increase. its only a 10% *increase* but that 10% increase /is/ 50% *more*. -- ken it is not your math is convoluted! bg besides its a k&n and they siad it was worth 15 more hp with its use so it has to be correct! .
From : miles
nathan in montana wrote the about.com link does just that. it does no such thing. it only states what their policy says. not what theyve done to enforce that policy. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fundamentalistchurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints the cities were once known as short creek founded in 1913 as a ranching community; however it soon became a gathering place for polygamist members of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints.citation needed in 1935 1935 yes in the 1930s through 1950s law enforcement went after polygamists in utah and arizona. after the shootout in the 50s in arizona they came under pressure from the public to stop such enforcement. both the law and the lds started turning their backs and continue to do so today. about.com says they do. they gave no examples of such since the raids stopped in the 1950s. none! just quoting a policy is not evidence of enforcement. .
From : miles
nathan in montana wrote ive found no other religion that places such an intense emphasis on family values. theyre all the same in that regard. move to mexico. the family values in the catholic church there are far above whats found here in mormon families. .
From : tbone
because one of their biggest revelations and fundemental religious practices and foundation has been denounced. bah. they reversed their policy happens all the time. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com .
From : azwiley1
nathan in montana wrote flds is not the mormon church! they are an entirely different church made up of former members who were excommunicated from the real mormon church. except they practice what the real church taught them show me something anything to substantiate your statements. you cant and that says it all about your argument. you are anti-mormon and you wont let the facts stand in your way. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com smith had revelations about. the two prophecies smith and young and based a large part of their religion on. how can a religion change based on outside public influence maybe a fake religion can. .
From : mike simmons
on feb 12 421 pm electric...@xo.com electrician wrote ignoramus18...@nospam.18738.invalid says... i made a trailer and want to get it weighed. went to a truck stop but my trailer was too light for their scales. any other suggestions this thread is unbelievable as to how much conversation it has generated. to weigh a trailer you do what has been done for the last 50 years - you go to a truck stop weigh the truck and trailer together unhook the trailer and then weigh just the truck. with just the trailer on the scale and the truck off the scale gives you trailer axle weight. this thread is unbelievable as to how much conversation it has generated. and yet... to weigh a trailer... lol! wolfie .
From : roy
either that or converted to lds and is living in a missionary home waiting to be baptized ive also wondered when budd was going to check in. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. what i find very odd is that the rabid fanatic has been silent the past few days. maybe he checked in to some hosp. .
From : stephen harding
most problems turn out to be the simple stuff. water in the gas ignition parts going bad that kind of thing. my next try would be a bottle or two of alcohol dry gas. also called gas line antifreeze. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. hows everyone doing ive got a little issue with my truck and i was wondering if anyone might have some sort of an idea of what might be some possible causes and maybe some tips to correct it. the truck spits sputters and hiccups occasionally while accelerating. it seems to be getting worse as time goes by but it is gradual. i did try injector cleaner to no avail... im not exactly a mechanic but i am quite handy with a knife fork and spoon. just kidding... i do need a little input though. thanks jeff .
From : tom lawrence
hows everyone doing ive got a little issue with my truck and i was wondering if anyone might have some sort of an idea of what might be some possible causes and maybe some tips to correct it. the truck spits sputters and hiccups occasionally while accelerating. it seems to be getting worse as time goes by but it is gradual. i did try injector cleaner to no avail... im not exactly a mechanic but i am quite handy with a knife fork and spoon. just kidding... i do need a little input though. thanks jeff .
From : stephen harding
water pump check it out. i remember replacing my water pump for my 5.2l dodge ram 96. not hard to do. i may be mistaken dude. larry ramby wrote this truck surges a few hundred rpms during warm up. it also takes a very long time for the truck to warm up. engine temp. will hard start to climb after 15 minutes of running. engine is 3.9l fuel injected and our mornings around here have been about 0 degrees f. changed out the thermostat and even checked the old one in a pan of boiling water. thermostat opened just before water boiled and is marked 195 degrees same as the one i replaced it with. .
From : tbone
the problem is ignorance on this subject. the mormon church denounces polygamy. that simply is not true. ive now provided you with multiple links that state the mormon church denounces polygamy. youve given me nothing beyond your good word to substantiate your statements to the contrary. i keep asking you to substantiate your statements as i have done. yes they have a policy against it but they pretty much look the other way unless it becomes a public issue. please give me something from a valid source to substantiate that claim. anything. please. they need to start being pro-active rather than reactive. that is not a specific recommendation. that you cannot even come up with a plan tou out all these polygamists that you claim exists says it all about your expectation. you complain about the problem and say that they should do somethying but you cannot even tell me what it is that you think they should do specifically. they do not go after polygamists at all. they turn their back and look the other way. exactly the same as the law enforcement does. and then they join law enforcement in their black helicopters to laugh about it all. ;- ........give me something substantial. they have not set an example showing their members they will be tough against polygamists. the excommunicate members for it. again what more can they do show me proof of how they have really cracked down on the problem. sure! just as soon as you show me that is problem exists in the first place within the real mormon church. polygamy has been growing in utah the past several decades. it is a growing issue not one thats shrinking as you seem to think. i dont doubt that its growing in utah. i do however doubt that its happening within the real mormon church. why would members risk it when the fdls supports their beliefs and is right next door to the real lds church http//lds.about.com/library/weekly/previousyears/aa042799a.htm thats it a bunch of words i asked you to show me proof of enforcement in the modern times mormon church. not just a bunch of meaningless words devoid of action. about.com clearly states that the church excommunicates polygamists. what more do you want the only ones ever excommunicated for polygamy are those arrested by law enforcement first. can you substantiate that at all besides they have to know about it before they can punish for it. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com got any idea how long its been since even that occurred in utah its been a long long time. .
From : tbone
either that or converted to lds and is living in a missionary home waiting to be baptized ive also wondered when budd was going to check in. hes reading it. a lot has to do with who makes the comments christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . what i find very odd is that the rabid fanatic has been silent the past few days. maybe he checked in to some hosp. .
From : tbone
tbone wrote no but record warm water temps for this time of year are and warm water releases far more humidity into the air than cold water. could you back peddal any faster. noaa and doa readings show 33-34f which is about the statistical average. any colder and it would be frozen which it rarely does. statistical average hahahahahahahahahahahaha more right wing bullshit half truths. those statistics are meaningless unless associated with the air temps at the time but you knew that right really please list all of the areas dealing with 9 feet of snow. colorado for starters. they have a huge lake that didnt freeze over because of global warming as well and how much more snow did they get -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : miles
any man who goes to a truck stop and cant get weighed is doing something wrong. youre pathetic. if you know the joke the above statement is funny. happy to tell the joke if someone asks. speech impediment g .
From : miles
robertpatrick wrote the miles character making all the dumb statements knows nothing about lake effect and how it all works and what happens. right ontario doesnt freeze over. i see. guess im wrong. the snow is the result of a lack of ice on lake ontario. good grief you and tbone are hilarious!! next thing that miles will claims is that hes the father of anna nicoles baby. ya i did her. shes ok but wasnt worth the money she paid me. .
From : miles
nathan in montana wrote lol...youre pathetic. take a hint from the mormons which you fucking deify so damn much. translation -- i cannot substantiate anything ive claimed you have yet to show any proof of the mormon church enforcing policies against polygamy. instead you just ask what the heck are they supposed to do guess in your view nothing because thats all they do. .
From : miles
tbone wrote face it miles your wrong. get over it. no tbone. it is you who were proven wrong. you tried to claim the lack of ice is why its been snowing. when you realized you were wrong you then claimed warmer water temps. how about looking some of this info up before you make more bonehead claims. .
From : mike simmons
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From : tbone
lol...youre pathetic. take a hint from the mormons which you fucking deify so damn much. translation -- i cannot substantiate anything ive claimed no kidding. -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com .
From : tbone
on feb 11 1013 pm nathan in montana montanajee...@aol.com wrote lol...youre pathetic. take a hint from the mormons which you fucking deify so damn much. translation -- i cannot substantiate anything ive claimed no kidding. uh no. the translation is go ask a mormon or go move to utah where i live and see if your opinions change. a town with a mormon temple is a lot different than a state controlled by them. given this i will repeat to your pig headed self i like mormons. maybe i will sift through the internet and send you some relavant links. im trying to complete a chem 6890 take home exam right now and am using your moronic misguided enthusiasm as a much needed break every now and then... but like i said...go ask a mormon. theyll confirm what im saying. or you could just sit behind your computer like the midguided elitist that you come off as. suit yourself. .
From : roy
any man who goes to a truck stop and cant get weighed is doing something wrong. youre pathetic. if you know the joke the above statement is funny. happy to tell the joke if someone asks. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. ignoramus18738 ignoramus18738@nospam.18738.invalid wrote in on sun 11 feb 2007 214152 -0500 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote scrap yard or recycling center. the one near me has a scale which reads in 20 pound increments. drive on. detach trailer. drive on again. subtract. you went to a truck stop and couldnt get weighed thats pathetic man! do you mean that i am pathetic or the truck scale i anyone remember the want to get weighed joke ill tell it if you ask. .
From : tbone
azwiley1 wrote miles he is not wrong. they are getting the lake effect snows from lake ontario which does not freeze over like lake erie does. fyi erie has just recently froze over in late jan which is extremely odd for being so late a freeze. i realize that but the severe winter conditions are not isolated to just that one area. my response was to the claims regarding global warming causing the severe winters. as you pointed out ontario doesnt freeze over anyways. the lack of ice coverage isnt because of global warming as tbone tried to claim. no but record warm water temps for this time of year are and warm water releases far more humidity into the air than cold water. could you back peddal any faster. talk to people in plain states and rocky mountain states! many areas have been hit hard with both heavy snows and frigid temps. really please list all of the areas dealing with 9 feet of snow. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : azwiley1
nathan in montana wrote you have nothing beyond loose blanket statements and most of those concern an entirely different church all-together. you have nothing beyond loose policy statements to back up your claims that the mormon church does everything it can to stop polygamy within its ranks. words in a policy are worthless. the only enforcement is at the hands of law enforcement and in that case polygamy is the least of the problem. many members have been excommunicated when it became known they were practicing polygamists ah yes your knowledge comes from the discovery channel rather than first hand as you want. none the less the issue was more with underage women rather than polygamy itself. .
From : robertpatrick
gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there is lake effect snow every year. no that is not true. there have been numerous years where western/upstate ny has not seen a lake effect storm. oh as i am sure you will want to prove me wrong for your edification i was born and raised in buffalo my entire family still resides there my son and biotch of an ex-wife still reside there and i am there just about every year for the holidays. stop picking apart each and every little word. geesh! stop being so damn sensitive! .
From : robertpatrick
nathan in montana wrote these two incidents are simply not comparable. a priest sexually molesting an alter-boy is in no way comparable to a rare church member who violates church policy in the privacy of his own home. now here lies the problem in your thinking. you see the issue as benign polygamy. the church and the law pretty much looks the other way with regards to polygamy. neither really care. its the exploitation of underage girls thats at issue. its not as rare as you may think. you have yet to tell me specifically what it is that you expect the mormon church to do in order to check to make sure none of its members have more than one wife. the mere suggestion is silly. start by listening to warnings from the public rather than attempts to cover it up. show me where polygamy is widespread within the mormon church. polygamy has been growing steadily throughout utah for decades nathan. to say its a problem just outside the church would be absurd. the problem with the catholic priests is indeed an inside problem. the mormon issue is entirely different. their policy is clear it is enforced show me where it is enforced beyond just words or a result of large scale public outcrying you cant. the mormon church has done the same as law officials. they have turned their backs on it. as you keep maintaining there is nothing they can do about it. their published policy states otherwise. published policies are meaningless without action. they do absolutely nothing unless some outside influence law officials or general public forces them too. .
From : azwiley1
please nathan it is you who is being ridiculous. this same mentality exists with the catholic church for which they have come under increased pressure to change their policies. you seem to be under the assumption there is absolutely nothing the churches can do to stop the sexual predator practices found within. these two incidents are simply not comparable. a priest sexually molesting an alter-boy is in no way comparable to a rare church member who violates church policy in the privacy of his own home. just let the police take care of it one case at a time huh you have yet to tell me specifically what it is that you expect the mormon church to do in order to check to make sure none of its members have more than one wife. the mere suggestion is silly. when the problems become widespread show me where polygamy is widespread within the mormon church. the real mormon church. you cant because it isnt. the problem is inside not outside. the catholics came underfire from the public because they did not excommunicate all offenders on the 1st offense. instead they moved them out of the publics attention. they still do so today. the problem with the catholic priests is indeed an inside problem. the mormon issue is entirely different. their policy is clear it is enforced what more do you want i keep asking you for a specific recommendation but you cannot come up with anything beyond continued criticism for a problem that you cannot substantiate to begin with. im not going to debate the fdls because that is another church entirely. they are not lds mormons and the lds church is not responsible in any way for anything that they may do. .....they have. their rules and policy is clear as is their willingness to enforce them through excommunication. they have no such willingness. their published policy states otherwise. unless you have something.......anything to substantiate that statement -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com .
From : miles
azwiley1 wrote besides as the topic reads the thread is about ny not the plains. so their weather really has little bearing or relevance. thats true but the lack of ice on lake ontario because of global warming isnt the cause for the lake effect snow in ny. you are correct. being that lake o almost never freezes g.w. has no bearing on things. now to say that lake e has taken so long to freeze could be related to g.w. .
From : miles
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