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From : scott

Q: on sun 10 sep 2006 093153 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote ack!!!! dell....i will never ever own another dell product as long as i live. i think they are like cars or trucks. you go with what works for you. ive had this dell for about over 5 years and not a problem. roy i used to build computers and would not buy a brand name box until i worked on a few gateways in the mid-90s.. actually used standard drives and stuff so you could put generic parts in em.. ive had 3 gateways since and was happy with them.. nan bought a couple of hi-tech whoopie-do systems from dell a few months ago in preparation for the move and they seem very well made if you dont count the pos micro$oft media center operating system.. *g* btw... we use verizon but you can probably do this with other phone companies... we paid about $30 for a cd and cable from verizon to connect the laptop to our cell... no other charges except minutes used and we have tons of them.. to keep the passenger from getting to bored they can check email browse the web download construction updates and road changes to the gps etc... mac mac i too use a verizon cell phone with the mobile office kit hooked to my gateway laptop... works great! as far as a gps system i have ms streets and trips and it works well too. i puit the laptop on the center console and the gps puck on the i/p and it picks up the sats thru the windshield just fine. i like it for locating campgrounds in strage areas. can you continually update streets and trips if so how often do you no it cannot be updated... but... when you plan a trip it will ask if you want to download new road construction/detour info. the only upgrade is the next years edition which is about $25.00. thanks mike helpful info. almost as good as heated leather seats imho ya had to go there didnt yavbg yup.... figgered id get my licks in before it gets cool and the wabbit starts harrassing me.. heck i thought youd have them turned on now.g roy ;^ mike roy mike https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

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From : mac davis

on sun 10 sep 2006 232922 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote you are 100% correct and i agree with what you have to say about this. my point now as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. though the title of the group indicates one thing as with any un-moderated group any topic is fair game. we both know that we all talk about so much in here that is not dodge truck related it is not funny. agreed and i have in the past joined in and had a heck of a good time teasing den . . the person of interest in the thread. i am not a religious person but i can not and will not fault budd for his feelings thoughts and beliefs and i dont think that it is right that everyone appears to be doing just that. larry i do appreciate your honesty and forthright speaking. i also appreciate your spiritual position. i only hope that if you ever have a spirtual question you will permit a friend who cares about you answer it for you. i will not and its here for all to see demand you join my church or beliefs. fair enough my friend on the other hand though sorry budd not a problem friend i also dont feel that religion need be introduced in every single solitary discussion in here. i dont as seen by my replies to problems and questions with a small teasing about low tech coordinate determination systems. the sig line is one thing correcting some one on a incorrect posting is the right thing to do also but there has to be a line drawn some where right. i think it all should just be left at that. agreed. and its all ive ever asked anyone to do if they would really take the time to read whats in my replies. i wont bring up the subject but i wont back away from defending it. this is a fair position budd. the only other thing that i would ask is that you not take offense so easily. a lot of time people are just teasing you the same way that they are teasing others but you take it seriously and off we go with another huge victim thread. well the problem is that teasing is only fun if its not offensive to the recipient. unfortunately some cannot realize that i take offense at being teased about what is most dear to my soul my beliefs. nor do i tease someone about their beliefs for that reason. to me teasing a person over a misstatement he made many years ago about bunny suits is one thing but teasing a person over what he believes in what gives him comfort in this screwed up world is off limits. one thing i dont quite understand is how im the victim in your eyes. i am not the victim for according to my beliefs i am the winner. does that show you what i mean about how it should be off limits out of courtesy to a fellow human being all the assaults on beliefs are damaging to a persons sense of worth. btw as you and others have mentioned more than once you cant always determine if a statement is in jest from pixels on a screen so you look at that persons track record with you. denny larry nate and others have teased me enough to understand them a bit. you for example in this persona at least have been mostly antagonistic. if a person regularly hits you do you keep letting them hit you without response -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com warning do not use ultimate-anonymity they are worthless spammers that are running a scam. .

From : Annonymous

i have this truck and the trans keeps going in and out of lock up at 37 to 42 mph. is there a way to disingauge the tcc or possibly unplug it $700.00 later and the dealer is saying replace the trans for about $6000.00. .

From : moparman

tom lawrence wrote from my 99 factory service manual... cylinder bore diamater max..........102.116mm 4.0203 in. cylinder bore our of round max .....0.038mm 0.0015 in. piston skirt diameter .........................101.864-101.896mm 4.0104-4.0117 in. sorry i couldnt find anything on piston-to-bore clearance. thats because they hid it bore diameter-piston diameter/2=p-to-b clearance you could calculate the piston-to-bore clearance if the service manual has the bore size with tolerance instead of the max dia.. using the numbers above give an answer that i know isnt correct .252mm max p-to-b. as comparison the current 6.4l itec powerstroke runs 0.0441-0.0909mm piston-to-bore clearance. .

From : mac davis

naw i use the exhaust gas pyro gauge. i have a toggle swicth that allows me to switch between exhaust temp and tush temp. should we even ask where you have the second thermocouple ^ .

From : dick

on mon 11 sep 2006 212918 -0500 mike simmons mikesim@yhti.net wrote do you use the laptop to monitor the temp on the heated seats mac naw i use the exhaust gas pyro gauge. i have a toggle swicth that allows me to switch between exhaust temp and tush temp. mike does it redline at taco bell mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : dale yonz

1157984635.888946.251980@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com craig@metronet.com mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote dale yonz wrote oh take a pill and relax i am relaxed. no pill necessary. thanks for your concern however. you know what relaxes me working on my dodge truck. which without the valuable assistance of this ng would not have been as relaxing. craig c. what really relaxed me was when i traded my rusting 2003 dodge in for a ford powerchoke just kiddin miss that tincan cummins ins some ways dale .

From : tom lawrence

really did you go to the site yep... saw a bunch of cases pertaining to state governments local governments state and federal agencies etc. being sued for 1a violations. nothing on individuals. in another group when this happened i contacted the aclj emailed them a couple examples of the discussions and their response was that no one has the right in an usenet group to tell a christian or a person of any faith or a search of their site turned up zero hits for usenet group online forum etc. about their faith or belief. as a fact the constitution does protect me and others in those situstions. no budd - it does not. the 1st amendment prohibits congress from passing any laws infringing on your right to speech religion assembly etc. there is nothing in the bor that applies to craig me or anyone else from telling you to stop talking about your beliefs. but dont take my word for it go to their site and ask them. nope - youre the one who made the claim - you should be the one to defend it. again wheres the law that prevents craig from calling you a religious nut and to take your religious talk to an appropriate group case in point - person #1 is standing on a soapbox in the middle of a town square going off about who knows what. person #2 walking by utters aw shut up ya blithering idiot!. person #1 most likely flips person #2 the bird and continues on doing what he was doing. true. yes true. usenet is simply the electronic equivalent of the town square. people are free to wander in and out at will - to listen to ignore to rebut or to comment. agreed. but neither example includes the unique characteristics of a usenet group. tom the whole point that im trying to make is just what you are saying. you implied some would say threatened that you could have someone charged with a federal crime for posts they made to you in this group. i never said that.... you did. technically by law i can contrary to craigs opinion start a religious discussion in an unmoderated group by simply adding ot- before the title. of course you can... not by law - by virtue of the fact that no one other than your isp can stop you. youre free to post all you want. others are just as free to tell you to go away. such is the nature of usenet. now if you isp blocked your posts then youd have a case. but because other posters here have no authority over you or control of your posts then they cant be in a position to deny you your rights can they anyway im done with the mess. someone email me if anyone cares enough about religious freedoms to take an unbiased look. im going fishing for a couple days. our discussion here has nothing to do with religion. you made an error in your legal reasoning by stating you could charge craig with a federal crime for his post to you and im simply trying to correct that by providing the truth. isnt that exactly what you say you try and do correct peoples misconceptions .

From : mac davis

azwiley1 wrote hey asshole what the fuck dont you understand! if you dont fucking like it dont fucking read it you dee dee dee! this is an un fucking moderated group! now sit the fuck down shut the fuck up or get the fuck out and stop trying to fucking moderate! im not familiar with dee dee dee. is that purely a redneck term bringing it back to the fucking subject of the ng it does start with a d ... as in dodge. craig c. .

From : hp

anyone here have any experience with any of the larger salt spreaders for pickups for ice/snow control looking at stainless steel models. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels .

From : carolina watercraft works

ya got me. -o just goes to prove that one swallow does not a summer make! anyone seen snoman lol probably soldering up radiators. dave mike simmons wrote mike simmons wrote unless you live in the extreme north never run more than a 50-50 mixture of antifreeze and water. a 50-50 mixture of coolant will give you all the corrosion inhibitors you need to keep your cooling system at peak efficiency if it is maintained properly. a 50-50 mixture will provide freeze protection down to -34 degrees f which is adequate for most of the us and canada. if your climate requires you can go to a maximum of 70-30 antifreeze and water but this is rarely needed and offers no benefit other than additional freeze protection. mike not quite correct check this url... http//www.shadowstuff.com/ look down the left side for technical stuff then antifreeze and you you can see that 60% is the max for minus temps. admittedly 70% is not far from it but since we are tossing around facts i just wanted to get your story absolutely straight for you. dave dave thanks for the reply! it would seem that the folks at prestone have a bit of disagreement with your 60% figure. see http//www.prestone.com/carcare/faq.php#q3 also the folks at peak also indicate that 70% is the max ratio for freeze protection see http//www.peakantifreeze.com/images/artprotectionchart.jpg hmmmmm.... curious.... i read your link and it appears this came from a study by the university of alaska. those folks should know above freeze-ups imho so there is a bit of controversy isnt there suffice it to say that the max ratio is somewhere between 60-70% coolant/water and everyone should be happy except perhaps for snoman who i suspect still maintains that pure antifreeze is ok. thanks for keeping me honest! ;^ mike .

From : dale yonz

and you can only discuss your topics i me myself i first person singular pronoun have never said it is the answer to all mankinds problems but the bible does. shut the fuck up for christs sake. correct. then some unnamed jackass started all of the god talk. ah youre talking about the person that got all bent out of shape when i mentioned my personal beliefs in a thread a couple years ago. shame on you for calling them names. see anything out of place there futher proving the point of many that religion simply ruins everything. no it proves you dont understand christianity and have no desire to thats all. my experiences with christianity aside it still does not change the fact that this is not the forum for such discussions. religious tyranny. bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!! rotflmbo!!!!!! apparently its religious tyranny in your dictionary to be harrassed for having christian beliefs evidently. dwell on it. craig c. . 222 321833 1e6ng.2812$nl2.2518@fed1read02 you are 100% correct and i agree with what you have to say about this. my point now as it was in the beginning with craig was simple. though the title of the group indicates one thing as with any un-moderated group any topic is fair game. we both know that we all talk about so much in here that is not dodge truck related it is not funny. agreed and i have in the past joined in and had a heck of a good time teasing den . . the person of interest in the thread. well you know that damn wabbit is just so furry and dare i say cute! vbfg i am not a religious person but i can not and will not fault budd for his feelings thoughts and beliefs and i dont think that it is right that everyone appears to be doing just that. larry i do appreciate your honesty and forthright speaking. i also appreciate your spiritual position. i only hope that if you ever have a spirtual question you will permit a friend who cares about you answer it for you. i will not and its here for all to see demand you join my church or beliefs. fair enough my friend budd i have no problems with you nor have i ever so it is all good. on the other hand though sorry budd not a problem friend i also dont feel that religion need be introduced in every single solitary discussion in here. i dont as seen by my replies to problems and questions with a small teasing about low tech coordinate determination systems. the sig line is one thing correcting some one on a incorrect posting is the right thing to do also but there has to be a line drawn some where right. i think it all should just be left at that. agreed. and its all ive ever asked anyone to do if they would really take the time to read whats in my replies. i wont bring up the subject but i wont back away from defending it. thank you larry. no worries man. on sun 10 sep 2006 205442 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote hey asshole what the fuck dont you understand! if you dont fucking like it dont fucking read it you dee dee dee! this is an un fucking moderated group! now sit the fuck down shut the fuck up or get the fuck out and stop trying to fucking moderate! larry look the same argument you use against craig he can use against you. this is an unmoderated ng you are correct. that simply means that everyone can say whatever they want including craig. now we would hope that common sense would enter into all of this somewhere but of course common sense is not so common. the deal really is that craig is using some common sense but you want to argue individual rights. in an unmoderated ng i suppose that individual rights rule becuase people can be as moronic as they chose to be. never the less you are using a philosophy that is just as valid for craig as it is for budd. craig isnt trying to moderate any more than he is trying to get budd to stop moderating this ng as a religious debate. in the end though craig and budd can pretty much say whatever the fuck they want to say. obviously common sense has no place here as friendships and emotion prevail. me i got no problem with that. i got no problem with budd. he has every right to be whatever he choses to be. he has made it pretty clear what he choses to be. im willing to let that go but you really got to let craig be what he choses to be. in this case he really is just a fairly sane voice in a fog of stupidity but that is just my opinion. budd cochran wrote primary indicated topic of the group is dodge trucks but by virtue of being unmoderated almost any topic is permitted. your religious topics are unwelcome. are you too ignorant to see that oh btw i only talk about my beliefs when the bible is misquoted misinterpreted or an attack is made on my beliefs all of which have happened in this dodge group. no you spout your shit unlike any victim i have ever seen. were you ass raped by a priest is that the dr

From : ed h

id say your chances of being procescuted or sued are a lot lower than in san franfreako ca than in dallas and if sued your chances are a lot higher of winning. if you should be so lucky as to shoot him ill start a legal defense fund for you and personally contribute at least $1000. osama bin laden has a 25 million us dollar price on his head offered by the us government for him dead or alive. what if i shoot and kill the fucking arab bastard walking down the streets of dallas. whats my odds of not getting prosecuted for murder in dallas whats the odds of his family suing me for wrongful death and getting the 25 mil. plus triple damages in texas. what a bunch of shit this is one reason i only buy throw downs. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .

From : chris thompson

i have a 97 dakota. how involved a job is it to replace the heater core my service manual has been misplaced. thanks ken .

From : snoman

on sun 10 sep 2006 213637 -0400 chris thompson kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net wrote ----------------- thesnoman.com have you found that knock sensor yet just wondering. guess you have not grown up still huh get a life 93 octane was 2.33 today here. 87 was 2.13 diesel still 2.87 ----------------- thesnoman.com .

From : scott

i believe that there is a company in maine called downeaster that makes thse items. anyone here have any experience with any of the larger salt spreaders for pickups for ice/snow control looking at stainless steel models. laz we sub it. found that it was to much of a pia to store it. then ya need to keep a loader there to refill it the loader needs to push too.. we use a company that does highway sanding and he makes a pass through as needed. but fisher has a poly hopper out that you might want to look at. www.fisherplows.com roy ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels .

From : snoman

snoman wrote on sun 10 sep 2006 213637 -0400 chris thompson kf4drr-nospam@alltel.net wrote ----------------- thesnoman.com have you found that knock sensor yet just wondering. guess you have not grown up still huh get a life 93 octane was 2.33 today here. 87 was 2.13 diesel still 2.87 ----------------- thesnoman.com today it came down to $2.45 but diesel is $2.81 .

From : hodad

on mon 11 sep 2006 145357 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote budd cochran wrote no but i do see that you are trying to tell me what ai can or cannot say in an unmoderated group. thats either an attempt to moderate the group or an attempt to deny me freedom of religion federal offense. now according to the american center for law and justice aclj i can do on or more things track your location ask a it about this if you dont believe it can be done and report it to them for filing federal charges federal charges you are one serious dumb fuck. no laws have been broken you moron. go back to the crack pipe. sorry but you might want to look up the website for the american center for law and justice and see what laws youre breaking. look i dont to start out in budds doghouse so i will try to say this in regard to the issue and this is an issue that i am very familiar with. no laws were broken. period. no law was even broached with what craig said or did. now you may not like what he said or did or you may even percieve it to be threatening in some manner but it was not at all illegal. dont play these kinds of games because it only puts the other things that you say in doubt. this is not in any way shape or form a violation of any law wither criminal or civil. killfile you supposedly you already did in the last religious mess you started. i guess you were telling an untruth you know ... that is a sin. if i group is unsubscribed and outlook express re-installed tell me how the killfiles will be retained id rather not in case you have a question i promise ... i wont have any questions to ask. so you can safely remove that burden from you shoulders. famous last words no you spout your shit unlike any victim i have ever seen. were you ass raped by a priest is that the drive behind your constant religious mantra even if this is the case id still like you to understand that this is not the ng for that discussion. try alt.religion.ass.rape.budd.will.he.ever.shut.up my my . . .a few posts ago you jumped azwiley1 for a homosexually oriented remark now you are doing the same. that is called hypocrisy. a comparison. i know someone that was ass raped by a priest. he is obsessed with god talk like you. and you were such a comfort to him . . . . again for the anti-christian bigots the group is unmoderated. feel free to leave if it bothers you so much. or ... you can leave and spread your nonsense to a religious group yes it is and you are attacking my beliefs . . . shut up about my beliefs and i will shut up also. . . .or i will continue to defend them . . .the choice is yours. i have not attacked your beliefs. i am attacking your ability to use a little common sense. lol if you call my religion names religion is more properly defined as ones attempts to earn a place in the hereafter but ill use it for sake of clarity i will respond in defense. as for my common sense dont worry about it its not your concern. it means illuminated pixels on a screen that indicate by physical arrangement determined by a series of program lines in the softwares controlling the monitors electromagnetic deflector coils sending electron beams to selected perforations in the scren mask resulting in the florescing of the screen coatings in a form that represents sigh not much going on upstairs is there budd no just giving your comment more response than it deserved. cant. christ told me to say it for his sake thru his discipless writings approximately 2000 years ago. now who should i follow jesus the christ or an obvious anti-christian youre asking me well then niether. be your own man ... one with just a hint of common sense. so now youre proselytizing me into your beliefs btw when i followed your religion i was not nearly as happy nor as certain of myself. no thanks. my experiences with christianity aside it still does not change the fact that this is not the forum for such discussions. rotflmbo!!!! hey craig show me where i said in the exact words this is the place for religious discussions in full exact context. you are thick skulled. you didnt say it ... you have however no i have defended my beliefs against attacks like yours . . .so it is those that attack me or my beliefs that start the process but havent the guts to admit it. therefore a reasonable person thats one that has a hint of common sense would assume that you have mistaken this ng for a religious one. then you do not fit that discription. you cant because i never have. but i have said i will defend my beliefs the word of god and chrisitanity anywhere well then maybe i will bring some those mysterious federal charges against you. how im following my beliefs and my gods instructions aclj says im not breaking any laws by trying to defend my faith. dwell on this craig.

From : scott

i just bought a dodge ram 2500 with a v10 and automatic transmission. the transmission nearly always slips in going from 1st to 2nd and just about sometimes when i just accelerate at low speeds. it also slips as i am driving on cruise control when i am driving up and down slopes on the freeway i think it is shifting into overdrive not sure. does this sound like a pcm problem or do i need to have the transmission rebuilt has anyone else ever experienced this problem. thanks. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

you still dont seem to have it figured out greg. think back . . . . .i mentioned my beliefs in a post a long time back and got ripped into for it and was accused of proselytizing and forcing my beliefs on others all false accusations and was told i was an idiot for believing. and it hasnt quit. why should i not defend myself and my beliefs greg -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on sun 10 sep 2006 225119 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote man is this crap ever going to end cant we all just get along! budd got bored and picked up his fishing pole. he seems to be getting quite a few bites! even some of the smarter ones have holes in their lips. beekeep johnny conchsell is representing the sting ray that killed crockodile hunter. he says hes gonna get him off the hook. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com warning do not use ultimate-anonymity they are worthless spammers that are running a scam. .

From : paul o

hey i miss 29.9 cents/gallon for 105.5 octane sunoco. . . . . . -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams well finally gas prices are comming down some. i paid $2.49/gallon yesterday the cheapest its been here in north carolina for a while! it only cost $56 to fill up my ram compaired to $74 few weeks ago. they say its comming down to $2 soon! scott i understand your enthusiasm i was glad to see it at $2.29 yesterday myself. but how sad is it that were looking forward to $2/gal ron w. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com warning do not use ultimate-anonymity they are worthless spammers that are running a scam. .

From : carolina watercraft works

budd cochran wrote indicated topic of the group is dodge trucks but by virtue of being unmoderated almost any topic is permitted. your religious topics are unwelcome. are you too ignorant to see that oh btw i only talk about my beliefs when the bible is misquoted misinterpreted or an attack is made on my beliefs all of which have happened in this dodge group. no you spout your shit unlike any victim i have ever seen. were you ass raped by a priest is that the drive behind your constant religious mantra even if this is the case id still like you to understand that this is not the ng for that discussion. try alt.religion.ass.rape.budd.will.he.ever.shut.up again for the anti-christian bigots the group is unmoderated. feel free to leave if it bothers you so much. or ... you can leave and spread your nonsense to a religious group there you go moderating again. why dont you just go start your own group and you can only discuss your topics i me myself i first person singular pronoun have never said it is the answer to all mankinds problems but the bible does. shut the fuck up for christs sake. correct. then some unnamed jackass started all of the god talk. ah youre talking about the person that got all bent out of shape when i mentioned my personal beliefs in a thread a couple years ago. shame on you for calling them names. see anything out of place there futher proving the point of many that religion simply ruins everything. no it proves you dont understand christianity and have no desire to thats all. my experiences with christianity aside it still does not change the fact that this is not the forum for such discussions. religious tyranny. bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!! rotflmbo!!!!!! apparently its religious tyranny in your dictionary to be harrassed for having christian beliefs evidently. dwell on it. craig c. .

From : ron webb

tbone wrote man is this crap ever going to end cant we all just get along! that kinda sounds a bit ironic coming from you! otherwise it sounds like a good idea. .

From : chris thompson

tom that will be up to you. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams man is this crap ever going to end cant we all just get along! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving azwiley1 wrote sadly your stupidity is that you are or at least are giving the appearance of trying to moderate an un-moderated group. oh kiss my ass. i am not trying to moderate anything. however the name of this ng indicates that the discussions should be about dodge trucks ... not god jesus the last days bible theology or other personal choice topics. the sad thing i find here is that a lot of people are trying to moderate the group. if you want a moderated invitation only group start one. and if i want to talk about god ill go to a group that was established for that purpose. again for the slow/religious retards this is not a religious ng. dont like or believe why the fuck dont we all just ignore it no! this is a group for talk of dodge trucks. not theology. at one time this group was full of people that talked shared information and helped people. right ... about dodge trucks. not about whether christianity is the answer for mankind. i would even go so far as to say that at one time each one of us though of the others as friends. correct. then some unnamed jackass started all of the god talk. futher proving the point of many that religion simply ruins everything. what the fuck happen religious tyranny. craig c. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com warning do not use ultimate-anonymity they are worthless spammers that are running a scam. .

From : snoman

well finally gas prices are comming down some. i paid $2.49/gallon yesterday the cheapest its been here in north carolina for a while! it only cost $56 to fill up my ram compaired to $74 few weeks ago. they say its comming down to $2 soon! scott i understand your enthusiasm i was glad to see it at $2.29 yesterday myself. but how sad is it that were looking forward to $2/gal ron w. .

From : azwiley1

censoring is any denial of freedom of speech. so wheres the denial your ability to post has never been pre-empted. theres a difference between joe citizen telling you to shut up and say a judge issuing an order for you to shut up. the latter is certainly censorship.... the former since it has no authority is nothing more than a suggestion - one which you are free to ignore. which i get chewed out for told to take it to a religion group etc. . . . but just watch tom ill be chewed out for anything i post of a christian nature even if im trying to correct a quote. heck - i have people tell me to shut up several times every day... doesnt mean im experiencing censorship. vbg imho since this is an unmoderated group if i or anyone of any faith or denomination makes a comment in reply to a misquote misconception or misunderstanding of that belief then no one has the right or authority to desparage them as it is a form of censorship denying them their right to practice their beliefs. tom unlike theguy you came to me as close as face to face with your concern as the internet allows. for that i cannot consider your words an attack but rather the words of a concerned friend. look at the informational replies to a few posters ive already made since i came back . . wheres the proselytizing the sigline is my signature and the replies are just like old times. i do consider you a friend budd and im glad to see you back and contributing. thank you sir. i do hope i will be glad to be back sometime. i do miss some of you clowns and denny. i just hate to see you letting yourself get drawn into these senseless debates with people whos minds youre never going to change - people for whatever reason enjoy poking you with a stick. weve probably both known the bully types that pull flies wings off steal candy/lunch money and those that start the fights with me are in the same category. i wish you all the best. thanks again. ive got some great friends in this group ive got my family and my beliefs. yep i got the best. budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com warning do not use ultimate-anonymity they are worthless spammers that are running a scam. .

From : tbone

man is this crap ever going to end cant we all just get along! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving azwiley1 wrote sadly your stupidity is that you are or at least are giving the appearance of trying to moderate an un-moderated group. oh kiss my ass. i am not trying to moderate anything. however the name of this ng indicates that the discussions should be about dodge trucks ... not god jesus the last days bible theology or other personal choice topics. the sad thing i find here is that a lot of people are trying to moderate the group. if you want a moderated invitation only group start one. and if i want to talk about god ill go to a group that was established for that purpose. again for the slow/religious retards this is not a religious ng. dont like or believe why the fuck dont we all just ignore it no! this is a group for talk of dodge trucks. not theology. at one time this group was full of people that talked shared information and helped people. right ... about dodge trucks. not about whether christianity is the answer for mankind. i would even go so far as to say that at one time each one of us though of the others as friends. correct. then some unnamed jackass started all of the god talk. futher proving the point of many that religion simply ruins everything. what the fuck happen religious tyranny. craig c. .