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From : roy
Q: you said all you had to do was remove the airbag. there must be more to it. can you explain please .
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From : john smith
ive never seen any clips that hold the rotors on. ive seen the orange wheel stud clips holding my brake drums on. are they the same thing yep .
From : bob
john wrote i dont think he has an aftermarket headlight/bulb. the oem wiring is fine for the oem bulb. it sounds more like you have a bad ground wire to the dim bulb. trace the headlights ground wire back to where it is grounded to the chassis and check the quality of the connection. john good point john. it could be a simple ground problem causing the trouble. imho this harness is a worthwhile upgrade to the oem headlight wiring even if you arent having any problems. it does apply to oem headlights/bulbs. it reduces the voltage drop at the headlights that dodge designed into the system to begin with as well as any voltage drop caused by dirty connections and aging wiring. the result is brighter headlights and longer bulb and headlight switch life. -- ken .
From : miles
lol well ya. depends on what you use as the base line. christopher thompson wrote ah but havent we been in a state of global warming since the last ice age thenewguy wrote around the northwest we are seeing warmer than usual weather. there have been a lot of local conferences and articles from the scientists warning us that global warming is a real deal and that we are starting to see the weather shifts and trends associated with that. who know i was just reading an article stating that the current prediction for this coming winter is for average temps in the usa to be about .8f lower than the 30 year average. whats more is that prior to the mid 1930s temperatures were steadily rising. then they started falling until about 15 years ago when they started rising again. so far temps have not exceeded the peak of the mid 30s and the rate of increase is no higher than prior to that peak. there are scientists that say no evidence of global warming exists. only relatively short term cyclical data that doesnt tell a very big picture. heck the past few years the ozone hole has been shrinking which goes against the global warming theories. i just dont think anyone really knows. .
From : bob
i never realized that this post would sounds so much like an advertisement!!! woohoo!! jmc wrote what a difference new tires can make! finally got my new michelins ltx m/s installed today and its like driving a new truck - smoother ride that annoying little braking shudder is gone handles much better especially on the turns. the new tires arent particularly noisy either. woohoo! heres hoping it actually *snows* this winter here in england! jmc -- message posted via carkb.com http//www.carkb.com/uwe/forums.aspx/dodge-truck/200510/1 .
From : jmc
bob wrote i never realized that this post would sounds so much like an advertisement!!! woohoo!! if you had been around for awhile you would have realized it wasnt an ad. go top post elsewhere. i agree its not an advertisement. hes posting from a web based forum. i dont think they have any choice where the post is placed. -- ken .
From : miles
hi all i wanted to invite you to check out ontarios new and free classified advertisement site www.eyardsale.com its fast free and you can upload pictures of your truck. additional internet exposure will aid in selling your item faster! thanks lori .
From : tbone
steve scott wrote because speculators are betting the price will go up even more due to world conditions. miles is right. the futures market has been driving the price of oil the past few months. yep for starters they are betting that china will continue to increase its demand and willingness to bid prices higher. .
From : steve scott
i have a spark knock that is consistantly making noise when accelerating. ive had the engine tuned up timing checked fuel rails cleaned and the spark knock went away for about 3000 miles. it is back. after talking with a couple of other owners of 1999 dodge durangos it seems they are experiencing the same problem. anybody have any wisdom theyd like to offer help! .
From : denny
on mon 29 aug 2005 231444 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote get off his case denny... rofl mac groan bg denny .
From : mac davis
on tue 13 sep 2005 214834 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote denny.. i actually have a serious question for you! youre joken right bg is the mopar stuff any better than barrymens sp chemtool or gumout different chemicals for different applications. the berrymens chem-tool and gumout are carb/throttle body cleaners that do a fine job removing varnish build up and light carbon deposits from the throttle plate area. there are probably a hundred other uses for the stuff because they desolve petrolum so well. the carbon deposits that build up on the back of the intake valves and in the combustion chamber are usually harder than a rock and have to be chipped off or a wire wheel works good on the valves. the combustion chamber cleaner soakes into these deposits and softens them up so when you run the dog shit out it the deposits will break apart and get spit out of the exhaust. and it does seem to work fairly well. denny mac please remove splinters before emailing thanks de
From : jmc
denny.. i actually have a serious question for you! youre joken right bg is the mopar stuff any better than barrymens sp chemtool or gumout different chemicals for different applications. the berrymens chem-tool and gumout are carb/throttle body cleaners that do a fine job removing varnish build up and light carbon deposits from the throttle plate area. there are probably a hundred other uses for the stuff because they desolve petrolum so well. the carbon deposits that build up on the back of the intake valves and in the combustion chamber are usually harder than a rock and have to be chipped off or a wire wheel works good on the valves. the combustion chamber cleaner soakes into these deposits and softens them up so when you run the dog shit out it the deposits will break apart and get spit out of the exhaust. and it does seem to work fairly well. denny mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : mac davis
on fri 02 sep 2005 095712 -0700 chauncey gardiner cgardiner@removethis.myrealbox.com wrote the verdict is in... i didnt buy the 5th wheel but did pick up a 25 travel trailer at 4400 lbs dry. we loaded it lightly- probably just barely over 5000 lbs. as some of the posters predicted its pretty slow up steep grades 7% at high altitude 7000+ feet; we drop down to about 35 mph. but there are turnouts so we can get out of other peoples way and- whats the hurry where the grade is not so steep it isnt hard to keep the speed up but you can only go so fast with a 25 trailer behind you anyway if there are any curves in the road. i did follow macs advice and got a weight distribution hitch which seems to steady things quite a bit. on the other hand we are beginning to look longingly at a 2500 with the cummins which might be nice for added confidence on cross-country trips and would open things up in the future for a larger rv. thanks again to all who responded... chauncey... enjoy the trailer rving is a great way to travel see cool things and spend lot of money on gas.. *g* btw i missed the end of the movie did you get elected president mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : rm
jmc wrote on and off ive been asking questions about tires since my 2001 dak is due for a new set. ive pretty much decided on michelin ltx m/s... we thought we were going back to the us but now theres a possibility we may be going elsewhere so i have a new question how are these tires on sand and how do they stand up to really really hot pavement i have not driven much in soft sand but they have good traction on dirt/gravel roads. i live in the desert with really really hot pavement. i have always gotten at least 60k miles out of a set. you might also look at the ltx a/ts not a/s. they have a more agressive tread for off roading. .
From : roy
and wheee i get to go to a party where a bunch of closed minders will be tonight...... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. novak was not the author of the commentary in question sigh...... as i said their minds are made up ins spite of the facts. mike -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. food for thought........ http//realclearpolitics.com/commentary/com-9405ds.html http//realclearpolitics.com/commentary/com-9405sc.html http//www.investors.com/editorial/ibdarticles.aspartsec=20 although it will likely make no difference since many have already made their minds up in spite of the facts.. bob novak theres a truly unbiased reporter/commentator; not. .
From : jmc
ladeedadeedaadaa sep 3 750 pm show options groups rec.autos.tech from ladeedadeedaadaa ladeedadeedaa...@hotmail.com - find messages by this author date 3 sep 2005 165034 -0700 local sat sep 3 2005 750 pm subject 95 doge ram fuel pressure issue reply | reply to author | forward | print | individual message | show original | remove | report abuse question for you all... ive got a 95 dodge ram 1500 v8 believe its a 5.2 liter.. it idles fine but when driving it studders while accelerating... seems to happen at all speeds and any rpms. the spark plugs/wires dist. cap and roter fuel and air filter have been replaced. relieved fuel pressure hooked up a fuel pressure guage to the test port. turned key to on position.. very minimal pressure supposed to read 31-33psi with regulator with regulator hose unhooked 39-41psi. tried starting the engine. would turn over but not start. waited.. psi never really reached high enough. unhooked the hose connected to the regulator and it started up immediately. went to 40psi. plugged regulator hose back in and the gauge stayed at 40 didnt shut off in between. now it wont seem to start with the regulator hose plugged in. does this prove that the regulator is bad the local discount auto wants $180 for the fuel pressure regulator.. does this sound right dont want to buy it if it isnt it. thanks a lot for any suggestions or insight you guys may have!!!!! .
From : jmc
novak was not the author of the commentary in question sigh...... as i said their minds are made up ins spite of the facts. mike -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. food for thought........ http//realclearpolitics.com/commentary/com-9405ds.html http//realclearpolitics.com/commentary/com-9405sc.html http//www.investors.com/editorial/ibdarticles.aspartsec=20 although it will likely make no difference since many have already made their minds up in spite of the facts.. bob novak theres a truly unbiased reporter/commentator; not. .
From : chauncey gardiner
suddenly without warning jmc exclaimed 04-sep-05 1038 pm suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 03-sep-05 117 am why cant amtrack make a profit on their own because it wasnt designed to do so. amtrak is the orphan of the rail bankruptcy of the ne u.s. in the 1970s. amtrak started with junk facilities and a promise to fund rehab work until it could survive on its own. this has never been fully realized because the feds consistantly underfund it. compared to what it began with amtrak is shorter on routemiles barely more modern and headed for complete bankruptcy. well said. meanwhile conrail the freight entity created at the same time was funded consistantly until it was able to turn itself into a profitable corporation owned by the federal government. since the government in theory isnt supposed to own something where the private sector would be in competition conrail was offered to the highest bidder in the 90s iirc. it was eventually split between two railraods csx corp and norfolk southern. amtraks biggest problem imo has been the lack of trackage it can call its own usually sharing route miles with freight rail. in many cases it uses the rail lines owned by freight railroads. thus it is at the mercy of the freight roads in terms of scheduling stations and at times motive power. very true especially in ct they are stuck behind locals all the time. if this country changes its attitude towards how amtrak is structured and towards energy policies that dont have long term goals maybe amtrak will work. very true but they need some people in there that know how to run a railroad. a politically appointed board of directors that changes with administrations does it no good either. for steve scott this is where i first ran into haley barbour he was appointed to the amtrak bod. didnt know shit about railroad but that didnt stop him from fucking it up. roy hey why doesnt someone just offer a boatload of money for someone competent from the uk or europe to help fix the us train system. oh wait. maybe europe. im impressed with the breadth of the british rail system but not the quality. for example 40 minute train ride once took nearly two hours because there were *leaves on the tracks*. in fall. in england. duh! did that incident this summer where a couple of passenger trains got stranded and they wouldnt let people out of the cars until they started passing out from the heat sigh tho usually weve had no problems. it was smooth sailing to/from york today beautiful sunny hot for here weather. ive had few problems on the london train no more than ive had travelling by air anyway. jmc duh. what i meant to say is did that incident this summer where a couple of passenger trains got stranded and they wouldnt let people out of the cars until they started passing out from the heat *make the in the us* hump. jmc .
From : max dodge
bzzzz ... sorry max. monday evening louisiana mississippi and alabama called for help. even if they hadnt we should have been better prepared at the federal level. not one single person at fema doubted that this was going to be a national disasater 24 hours before it happened. it does not take 24 hours to assess the situation. less than 4 hours. i agree on 24 hours for gathering of supplies. now were at approximately 30 hours. 24 hours for deployment are they having a deployment party too much of the equipment and supplies came from right here in good ole texas. doesnt take 24 hours to get to no even when its under water. i say 12 hours. thats 42 hours ... lets round up to 48. at the latest ... thursday morning. thats if you do everything by road. it amazes me that anyone can defend the response time. if clinton were still in office and he had dragged his ass like this youd be on fire. craig c. craig c. .
From : max dodge
bush and his federal response which he is responsible for including the national guard keyword national were wrong in the the reason you got labelled is because of statements like the above. as many of us have pointed out bush can do nothing on a federal level until asked to do so by the governors of the states. as a recent lawsuit so obviously pointed out the ng is under the command of the governor and cannot be disbanded moved sent ordered called up etc without the governor being involved. perhaps if you stopped blaming bush for something he had no control over your words would get more respect. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. my labeling which was colorful was a hurried response. doesnt make it right ... but god damnit everytime the slightest political discussion gets mentioned here there is always some asshole that swings in with the looney leftie bullshit if it happens to put bush in slightest negative light. have you ever considered that perhaps your overly conservative view might be a bit too far to the right and void of reason no of course not. frankly many of the people in this group are intolerant left and right. its unfortunate however that someone jon and you make judgements without knowing anything about the poster. for example jon called me a looney leftie and you called me a leftie. both of you are wrong although i expect you would never admit it even if the proof were shoved down your throat. thats what happens when you believe in a club/good-ole-boy-network as opposed to an idea. imo there are two sides ... not right and left ... rather right and wrong. bush and his federal response which he is responsible for including the national guard keyword national were wrong in the timing of their response. as i said previously if you had family or friends there youd drop your prideful right view and see the facts. bush let us down ... again. any overly right person that disagrees with the facts can naw on my overly large left nut. americans should get the royal treatment and immediate response when a disaster occurs. the people of louisiana mississippi and alabama are part of what makes this country great. anyone that disagrees is damn fool. they deserve better than theyve gotten. craig c. .
From : max dodge
theyll actually fly that thing that low and that slow hell theyre lucky someone didnt shoot at it. yeah no kidding. fortunately the areas gun shops didnt have any shoulder-fired missiles up for grabs. even so i bet the secret services pucker factor was relatively high. but hey ya gotta see whats going on and theres no way in hell he was going anywhere near downtown n.o. on the ground... .
From : jmc
you crack me up. always there with the facts. ; craig c. .
From : steve scott
lets try to keep the politics out of this question. lets make it yes or no!! do you feel the response was late yes or no!! not having read the other thread yet yes it took too long for help to arrive. but in all fairness did they have to let the water go down before they could get much in the water hasnt dropped that much. helicoptors and the trucks that showed today. also if what i read was correct with idiots taking pot shots at the copters that were trying to take people out id say fuck-em and let them swim. i agree. but do you let 60000 suffer because of 20 no you put some folks in the air and light them the fuck up. but if you dont have the assets then you get what happened. nothing. and if the birds were armed and returned fire could you imagine the crying and whining that would happen its a no-win situation. id have to let them soak a little while longer till they calmed down. in every situation its always a few idiots that ruin it for the many. denny .
From : roy
just have to put labels on people dont you is that part of the contract when you become a registered republican im not a democrat or a leftie as you put it. anyone too far to the right is just as mis-informed as someone that is too far left. and yes bush could have done more! to day is friday ... got that friday ... the storm hit monday! ng and supplies got there today. once again today is friday. it does not take 4-5 days to get relief to a location outside the u.s. so why did it take that long inside the u.s. i can tell you ... lack of leadership. before you go off the deep end you should consider how the government works in relation to the states. first yes the prez got aid off to indonesia in a hell of a hurry! why then could he not get aid to nawlins that fast simple it is not a federal issue until the states specifically request federal assistance. the prez has control of the us military for foreign operations and thus could order them into action immediately after the tsunami hit indonesia. the prez has zero control over the national guard when it operates in the us. the several states governors are the ngs cinc thus it is incumbent upon the governors to order them into action. in the event of a natural disaster within the borders of the us the federal government has no jurisdiction until help is requested by the affected states. that is why you always hear that such and such governor has requested that the president declare the area a national disaster area. then and only then can the feds rush in to help. now having clarified that point which many dont stop to consider i dont think three days is too damned bad to get a huge bureaucracy like the federal gummint moving. have you ever served in the military do you know how long it takes to plan prepare and provision for a major operation probably not. go ahead and bush bash all you want but trust me imho he is doing all he can and rather than carp second-guess and otherwise bitch about a bad situation we should pray for the folks in the affected area and find a way to help however we can. mike mike did your dealer get the d-mail from dc today that states dc will match any $$$ the dealer contributes to the red cross. it came to ours about 10 am today. i thought that was a helluva gesture from dc denny .
From : max dodge
just have to put labels on people dont you is that part of the contract when you become a registered republican im not a democrat or a leftie as you put it. anyone too far to the right is just as mis-informed as someone that is too far left. and yes bush could have done more! to day is friday ... got that friday ... the storm hit monday! ng and supplies got there today. once again today is friday. it does not take 4-5 days to get relief to a location outside the u.s. so why did it take that long inside the u.s. i can tell you ... lack of leadership. i cant believe you are actually defending his leadership in this situation. perhaps if you were there or had family there you would feel differently. but then that would require you and jon to think of someone else other than yourselves. what do you care ... your taxes are lower. in your minds bush can do no wrong correct again i say un-fricken-believable. craig c. .
From : jmc
i guess everybody has been watching the coverage. i figure it is time to put some serious troops in with a no bs set of orders. roy .
From : tbone
usg just agreed to build a new plant here. more jobs and plenty of market for the product. i bought some stock in usg a couple of months ago it has gone up over $20 a share since. not a bad return thus far. the plant is around $180 million quite a investment. sadly there is one hell of a need for its products roy .
From : steve scott
get up on the wrong side of the bed face it theres nothing bush could do to please you or the other lefties. and those of us on the right are getting a good chuckle watching you all go insane. rfkjr claiming its haley barbours fault katrina hit mississippi and that the uss failure to ratify the kyoto treaty was the cause of katrina. too funny. on 2 sep 2005 140356 -0700 craig@metronet.com wrote eat me you prick. i can tell you this anyone else would have lead in this instance. being leader is more than sitting on the fucking phone giving orders. it requires that you give the appearance of leading so that people can see that you concerned and are on top of the situation. so you tell me ... was bush giving the appearence of leading while he was shit kicking in crawford right wing dickhead. craig c. .
From : max dodge
hey bush flew over the area jeez..... and at 550mph and 25000 feet thats all the closer he wanted to get. wonder what he saw from up there wow thats a lot of water......... what body of water is that......... the pahtomic oh......we passed pochertran back a ways ok........ couldnt have been much. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. it was time about 72 hours ago saw a pic of a fire truck from i believe la as in calif. it arrived with the ng convoy. they drove from friggin calif. was the ng out in calif too would love to hear the mayor of new orleans brief bush today. any bets that bush will avoid him roy i guess everybody has been watching the coverage. i figure it is time to put some serious troops in with a no bs set of orders. roy .
From : tbone
roy wrote i guess everybody has been watching the coverage. i figure it is time to put some serious troops in with a no bs set of orders. ive heard reports of 20000 to 40000 being deployed by this weekend. its a logistics nightmare to get it all organized. that is what i find troubleing. imo it has taken waaaay to long to get assistance into the area. we have flown aid to other countries in 1/2 the time. they have been given arrest powers and marshal law has been established in some areas. too bad more people didnt heed the warnings to evacuate. while some couldnt for a variety of reasons i dont think 200000 people have such reasons other than stupidity. most of those folks dont have transportation. they were initially told to go to the dome for the duration of the storm. iirc they were sorta trapped after the water came in. i think your 200000 might be a bit on the high side the evacuation of the hospitals didnt take place until this morning. roy .
From : miles
tbone wrote lol you really need to pull your head out of the sand miles. you keep saying global and yet refuse to admit that we are not only part of the global economy but the biggest user of it. china is not the only country on the rise when it comes to use and are not the only ones to blame for the increase. the funny thing is that you and maxi but mostly you keep claiming that there is no shortage or even strain on the supply and if that were true how would china or anyone else cause this steep rise youre mixing two things up. supply of oil and supply of gas. chinas use of oil has skyrocketed the past couple of years. thats by far the single biggest cause of oil price rises. the gas supply in the usa has been steady. there have not been shortages at gas storage facilities. usa usage of gas or oil is not why oil prices have shot up. the gas supply has not been steady and over the past three months has dropped to record lows for this time of year. perhaps that has to do with the automotive manufacturers employee pricing and a huge bunch of idiots buying the biggest suvs and trucks that they can. while chinas use of oil has significantly increased ours has gone up more than usual as well so we in fact are to blame for the increase in the price of oil just like any other significant user. but that still doesnt answer the question i asked you. if the supply of oil is not strained how would china us or any one elses increase in demand cause the price to shoot up that way .
From : max dodge
why is this not possible in the us seems to me it should be. damn right it should be. why not because president after president democrat and republican alike with congressional blessing urging even has screwed amtrak until it had just enough to survive on. this country at one time had a massive passenger rail system. with the advent of air travel and then the interstates rail travel became obsolete. this rail system was imo the single biggest factor in keeping this country productive and able to out produce its enemies in wwii. said a german pow held in the mid west as he looked out and saw a up big boy 250 tons or so pulling what seemed a never ending train if this country can make that there must be more and if so germany will lose. the northeast corridor boston to d.c. basically paralleling i-95 is the backbone of amtrak in the east. this corridor is literally one disaster away from being inoperable due to cuts in funding. not helping the cause were the acela trainsets which in june turned up with 30% failure rate in the brake rotors. if we funded passenger rail between cities enough to keep the service dependable for two years maximum ran it at rates and times which made it worth the lack of independance given by a personal vehicle we could actually have a rail system worth talking about. whats more since it runs on freight trackage the upgrades for passenger trains would improve the service of hotshot freights such as mail ups fresh produce etc. union pacific has entered a multi year plan to upgrade and build new terminals. this began as a result of having to give up a contract with united parcel service due to more traffic than the major lines in its system could handle. the track was fine but the amount of room for all the freight cars was just not there. if amtrak were in a position to do so they could contract with up to assist in the improvements if given trackage rights. however in the case of amtrak it has always been a struggle between free enterprise and governmental subsidy of passenger rail. its time government took its we know better attitude and used it to improve not only our rail system but our energy policy as well. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. suddenly without warning miles exclaimed 02-sep-05 646 am jmc wrote yikes! too bad the us doesnt have the nearly all-encompassing public transport system they have here. bet lots of people would use it now. the usa is a huge country with vast distances between major cities. its 250 miles from phoenix to the nearest major city for instance. mass transportation does work in some cities where large populations are centralized and travel to/from large job centers. san franscisco is a good example. people travel from the east bay to s.f. where the jobs are. doesnt work so well in other cities were housing and jobs are scattered everywhere. well i realize that. i am an american after all. ive even taken the greyhound across most of the country in my youth. i often hear this excuse but im not really buying it especially since i understand that europes public transport system is equally robust but having little experience with public transport there i cant say for sure. im talking about local munincipalities with their own bus system connecting to others. not one all-encompassing monopoly or govt run system. i dont really see any reason why this wouldnt work well at least along most of the east coast if you needed to go west youd still get on a greyhound. im posted in the uk which is about the size of oregon. i live in a town of about 25k it cant be a city doesnt have a university or a cathedral has the same sort of bus system as any major city and covers a much wider area than the city itself - ive come across buses on tiny little country roads that are probably 15-20 miles from any major population center. ive seen bus stops on these same roads with one farm within a mile or two of it. buses run regular to towns with populations that can probably be counted in the dozens. for myself i live on the very edge of town theres a bus stop about a 10 minute walk away buses run every 12 minutes. from the bus station and the adjacent train station i can if i want take public transport to johnogroats on the north edge of this island or to any major ferry port in any direction. heck i can take a train all the way to france now before long ill be able to do it with only two changes why is this not possible in the us seems to me it should be. oh and with the gas prices you can bet im taking public transport a lot more now. or better yet walking. its only 2 miles to the high street from here. augh been here too long. 2 miles to downtown. next thing you know ill be complaining about the cost of petrol which is 93.6p per litre for petrol - diesel is 96.
From : miles
roy wrote i guess everybody has been watching the coverage. i figure it is time to put some serious troops in with a no bs set of orders. ive heard reports of 20000 to 40000 being deployed by this weekend. its a logistics nightmare to get it all organized. they have been given arrest powers and marshal law has been established in some areas. too bad more people didnt heed the warnings to evacuate. while some couldnt for a variety of reasons i dont think 200000 people have such reasons other than stupidity. .
From : geekboy
tbone wrote lol you really need to pull your head out of the sand miles. you keep saying global and yet refuse to admit that we are not only part of the global economy but the biggest user of it. china is not the only country on the rise when it comes to use and are not the only ones to blame for the increase. the funny thing is that you and maxi but mostly you keep claiming that there is no shortage or even strain on the supply and if that were true how would china or anyone else cause this steep rise youre mixing two things up. supply of oil and supply of gas. chinas use of oil has skyrocketed the past couple of years. thats by far the single biggest cause of oil price rises. the gas supply in the usa has been steady. there have not been shortages at gas storage facilities. usa usage of gas or oil is not why oil prices have shot up. .
From : roy
suddenly without warning miles exclaimed 01-sep-05 206 am tbone wrote actually much of that taxation is used to fund their national health system. england has high gas taxes for the main reason to reduce the number of cars on the road. ever drive in london oh yes that wonderfull socialized health care fiasco in the uk. no thanks. actually london has a congestion charge to reduce driving in the city. dont remember the exact amount but i think it just went up to 8 per day about $15. no wonder the queen has so much money ;- dont know the answer as to where the gas tax goes. i do know that at least out here in the boonies roads are repaired *before* they turn into a pothole-laden nightmare. though i sometimes wonder if its makework because ive seen roads repaired that didnt look damaged at all. predictive road repair. that looks like its gonna pothole lets get it boys! jmc .
From : tbone
suddenly without warning miles exclaimed 02-sep-05 646 am jmc wrote yikes! too bad the us doesnt have the nearly all-encompassing public transport system they have here. bet lots of people would use it now. the usa is a huge country with vast distances between major cities. its 250 miles from phoenix to the nearest major city for instance. mass transportation does work in some cities where large populations are centralized and travel to/from large job centers. san franscisco is a good example. people travel from the east bay to s.f. where the jobs are. doesnt work so well in other cities were housing and jobs are scattered everywhere. well i realize that. i am an american after all. ive even taken the greyhound across most of the country in my youth. i often hear this excuse but im not really buying it especially since i understand that europes public transport system is equally robust but having little experience with public transport there i cant say for sure. im talking about local munincipalities with their own bus system connecting to others. not one all-encompassing monopoly or govt run system. i dont really see any reason why this wouldnt work well at least along most of the east coast if you needed to go west youd still get on a greyhound. im posted in the uk which is about the size of oregon. i live in a town of about 25k it cant be a city doesnt have a university or a cathedral has the same sort of bus system as any major city and covers a much wider area than the city itself - ive come across buses on tiny little country roads that are probably 15-20 miles from any major population center. ive seen bus stops on these same roads with one farm within a mile or two of it. buses run regular to towns with populations that can probably be counted in the dozens. for myself i live on the very edge of town theres a bus stop about a 10 minute walk away buses run every 12 minutes. from the bus station and the adjacent train station i can if i want take public transport to johnogroats on the north edge of this island or to any major ferry port in any direction. heck i can take a train all the way to france now before long ill be able to do it with only two changes why is this not possible in the us seems to me it should be. oh and with the gas prices you can bet im taking public transport a lot more now. or better yet walking. its only 2 miles to the high street from here. augh been here too long. 2 miles to downtown. next thing you know ill be complaining about the cost of petrol which is 93.6p per litre for petrol - diesel is 96.6. our gas prices on base went up again too. 70.6 cents per liter. the brits are really jealous that we pay so little for fuel. and i do understand that their fuel and high tax - vat is 17.5%! is there to pay for their socialistic economy. i had a guy tell me that it was cheaper for him buy a round-trip airline ticket to nyc and buy a laptop there than to go to the local computer shop to purchase the same laptop. but i digress. jmc .
From : max dodge
day and it is pinging because it is so bad that the ecm cannot retard spark enough to control it. how many times do i have to tell you there is no spark retard in response to knocking in the 3.9/5.2/5.9/8.0l engines. difference and forget about the smoke and mirrors to make 87 work on ahot day. fixing a blown plenum gasket is not smoke and mirrors and ignoring it in favor of a higher-than-needed octane fuel will only allow the problem to worsen. .
From : miles
jmc wrote yikes! too bad the us doesnt have the nearly all-encompassing public transport system they have here. bet lots of people would use it now. the usa is a huge country with vast distances between major cities. its 250 miles from phoenix to the nearest major city for instance. mass transportation does work in some cities where large populations are centralized and travel to/from large job centers. san franscisco is a good example. people travel from the east bay to s.f. where the jobs are. doesnt work so well in other cities were housing and jobs are scattered everywhere. .
From : miles
tbone wrote like i said it is not perfect but unless you have money or insurance here you get nothing at all. not true. all states have a hcccs if you know what that is. plus they have the county drs and hospitals that provide free or low cost care. there are numerous other programs for those that bother to seek it. decent health care for most is better than lousy health care for all. $3.24 a gallon for regular unleaded here. will probably be higher tomorrow. as of tonight regular runs $2.65 to $3.09 across metro phoenix. .
From : miles
tom lawrence wrote you do understand your v8 assuming youre driving a dodge truck of course has no knock sensor and therefore no ability to retard timing and therefore as mike says premium fuel offers no benefit over mid-grade gasoline. and since the op has a 5.2l v8 mikes statement is 100% correct. you mean like the engineers who wrote the owners manual that states the vehicle was designed to run on 87 octane fuel it is not 100% correct and the only reason it says 87 in manual minimum too is because it is a sales death sentence to have 89 in manual not because it is best fuel. youdo not that when they run epa mpg tests that they have long used 93 not 87 when testing because tests do not require the use of 87 octane fuel. they can do it because manuals say 87 minimum not 87 only -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-milage-premium-fuel-ftopict136209.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=661525 .
From : roy
tbone wrote is it the whole reason of course not and my statement says no such thing but if you think that it has no or even just a small effect the true boneheaded statement is comming from you. is the rapid rise in oil since jan. mostly caused by usa use tbone you need to follow whats been happening globally. its not the usa thats been driving up the prices world wide. you might want to do your research on chinas rise of oil consumption. .
From : rm
tbone wrote show me some stats that back up your claims. lol youre the one that spewed claims that small cars just bounce off. youre the one that claims that small cars are much stronger and big suvs just turn into blobs. tbone youre the one claiming these small little tin cans are saver than larger trucks and suvs in accidents. so back up your claims. .
From : tbone
rm wrote thats why i bought a 5speed civic that gets 33 mpg. i drive my 4x4 360 only on weekends now. ive looked into doing that but then i passed a small vehicle squished like a bug in an accident. not worth the gas savings. i dont get the logic of a econo car while prices are high. i figure all the expense associated with another vehicle initial cost taxs title insurance and up keep. would think that the gettin isnt worth the goin. roy not in the short term roy. i drive 70 miles roundtrip each day to work cant move refuse to live in houston limits or get another job 10 years there. i was burning way too much in gas and didnt want to have a car payment again truck is paid for. car cost me $6500 total. i bought it for all my daily driving even before gas went up. this includes chauffeuring my 8 yr old around which would cost me $150at least a week in gas at todays prices. the honda is running me about $40 a week on average. lets break down your question taxes run me $50 a year title was $210 one time fee insurance costs me $85 a year just liability upkeep not much it is a honda after all. i can guarantee it will cost a hell of a lot more to maintain my big ass dodge than it will to maintain the civic. i love my dodge but she is a bitch to maintain tranny goes out dashes crack pinging requires new wires and plugs every year to correct etc. maybe in the short term it wouldnt make sense and i agree with you there but this was a long term plan and the longer it goes to more it swings the cost effectiveness the other way. truck doesnt cost a dime as long as it just sits in the driveway but it is there if i need it. i work nights so fear of getting squished is a little bit mitigated but still there. .
From : max dodge
yep thats right. since roy posted about the gas prices going up prices in this area went from $2.54 on monday to $2.69 on tuesday to $3.10 today. i figure we all should head east if we have the bucks for the gas hunt down ole roy and stick his head in one of his beagle holes. vbfg denny stop yer bitchin! i was at $2.79 on monday a day ahead of you ya must be use to that.g on vacation this week and i aint turning a wheel. with that wide load you carry around id feel guilty if i didnt give you a days headstart..... love to see ya bring yer chubby ass this way. hell old orchard beach is still recovering from your last visit. roy ill make it back that way in another year or so. a friend of mine moved to vt. a couple of months ago so i got a couple of guys to mooch a free supper from and i still got to make it into northern maine to see some moose. this summer had too much shit going on and then i got to buy a new furnace/ac system so vacation go put on the back burner. im a wishing for a nice snowy winter to get caught up..bg denny where in vt. did he move roy ill have to get back with you on the name of the town. its hell to get old.. g i know its on the eastern side about half way up but damned if i can remember it. denny .
From : tbone
suddenly without warning tbone exclaimed 01-sep-05 1000 pm to get back on topic our gas prices jumped again as well. our cheap gas is now $2.85 per gallon. $3.24 a gallon for regular unleaded here. will probably be higher tomorrow. yikes! too bad the us doesnt have the nearly all-encompassing public transport system they have here. bet lots of people would use it now. its pretty amazing. seems like no matter how microscopic the town up here in northern england theres a bus that goes through there at least once a day. i can take a train to london and be there faster than i can drive even on the motorway with no traffic and a 70mph speed limit. theres even a dirt-cheap bus service to/from the airport for those who cant afford a taxi. even more amazing the cut rate airlines. were paying - no kidding - 19p each to fly to ireland. even with all the airport fees thats still about 50 for two people. round trip. the distance might be about equivalent to flying from albany ny to washington dc. i noticed that katrina has had an effect on the exchange rate too. jumped from 1.80 to 1.83 today... somebodys getting rich i imagine. the rest of us just get poorer faster even if were making more money. jmc .
From : max dodge
gee now look at the one who responds to posts that have nothing to do with them lol. like i said before max and tom commented on stop accusing me of the things that you do. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea and you have had such useful input in the group. now gfy. tbone chokes on the truth........ -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. tell us why gore wanted to tap the reserves when gas prices rose during his campaign tell us how it wasnt pure politics. i know this one! from http//www.rednova.com//science/204323/asuperfluouspetroleumreserve/ in september of 2000 president bill clinton ordered the release of 30 million barrels of oil from the spr to offset a spike in heating oil prices in the northeast. the decision came one day after an appeal from vice-president al gore who was locked in a tight and ultimately unsuccessful presidential campaign. the political motivations for clintons decision are worrisome as is the minimal effect. at the time refineries were operating at full capacity so the excess crude did little to lower heating oil prices. there was simply a shortage of heating oil on the market not crude. even the white house admitted that only about 40 percent of the released oil would eventually be converted to heating oil. now the president has said that he will tap the strategic reserves which would if the price was driven up by pure speculation cause a major price drop and again that didnt happen. a $2.00 price drop means nothing and today the price held at $70 a barrel. geez tbone are you that ignorant hes proven it more times than i can count. yea and you have had such useful input in the group. now gfy. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
im not so sure there isnt enough oil to last forever. well at least for the foreseeable future. however the limitations are getting it out of the ground and refining it into the various products we use. these are huge limitations at this point that we need to address immediately by additional drilling for our own resources and new refineries. it wont help today or tomorrow but a few years down the road. in addition there are already known deposits that previously were too expensive to pump due to minimal return on the investment. with higher prices on a barrel of oil now it may be profitable to pump it out. also a study done jointly by a texas university and oil companies claims to have used radar and found that at least one well that started pumping more than expected appears to have flow in from beyond the penetration of the radar. what this says to me is we dont know how much oil is actually there and neither the doomsayers nor the oil forever types are likely to be correct. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. im not so sure there isnt enough oil to last forever. well at least for the foreseeable future. however the limitations are getting it out of the ground and refining it into the various products we use. these are huge limitations at this point that we need to address immediately by additional drilling for our own resources and new refineries. it wont help today or tomorrow but a few years down the road. on thu 01 sep 2005 032006 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote now steve stop confusing max and miles with such things as facts. as long as they keep their heads in the sand everything is fine and there is enough oil to last forever at an ever increasing rate of consumption. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving from ft.com today us gasoline futures surged to a record high on wednesday after the department of energy reported a 500000 barrel drop in gasoline inventories to 194.4m barrels as stocks fell for a ninth week in succession. this was through august 26 before katrina. .
From : steve scott
suddenly without warning geekboy exclaimed 31-aug-05 350 am suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 30-aug-05 726 pm diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy here in the uk youre just now catching up to our normal on-base gas station prices both gas and diesel. gas on the economy is close to $7.00/gallon now. yick. not really. if i am not mistaken the fuel there is artificially inflated due to taxation to help curb excessive driving and poultion not really yes much of the gas price is tax but we still have to pay it. and as far as excessive driving goes i guess its working. a high percentage of folks in this town dont even *own* cars trains and buses are quite heavily used. that said if prices keep going up when we go back to the us in the spring i can see the dak making a nice lawn ornament. i could plant a vegetable garden in the bed jmc .
From : tbone
tbone wrote and where exactly are these tankers going to unload and how is that going to help the midwest what they arent stuck out there you know. crude has changed in value on ships since crude was first loaded on a ship. you think these tankers drive up a river or something. they can unload in any port with storage just like they always have. sure you can unload it provided that the other ports have room for it but many of these other ports already have a full load of ships coming in and the real problem is getting the crude to where it is needed not just getting it off of the ship. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
over the last couple of months the gearbox has gotten progressively stiffer and stiffer. at first it was only when cold now it is difficult to shift between any gears. this crewcab 4x4 with the 4.7l and 5-spd box has about 65k miles. has anyone dealt with this issue before any suggestions .
From : jmc
yea and you have had such useful input in the group. now gfy. tbone chokes on the truth........ -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. tell us why gore wanted to tap the reserves when gas prices rose during his campaign tell us how it wasnt pure politics. i know this one! from http//www.rednova.com//science/204323/asuperfluouspetroleumreserve/ in september of 2000 president bill clinton ordered the release of 30 million barrels of oil from the spr to offset a spike in heating oil prices in the northeast. the decision came one day after an appeal from vice-president al gore who was locked in a tight and ultimately unsuccessful presidential campaign. the political motivations for clintons decision are worrisome as is the minimal effect. at the time refineries were operating at full capacity so the excess crude did little to lower heating oil prices. there was simply a shortage of heating oil on the market not crude. even the white house admitted that only about 40 percent of the released oil would eventually be converted to heating oil. now the president has said that he will tap the strategic reserves which would if the price was driven up by pure speculation cause a major price drop and again that didnt happen. a $2.00 price drop means nothing and today the price held at $70 a barrel. geez tbone are you that ignorant hes proven it more times than i can count. yea and you have had such useful input in the group. now gfy. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning tbone exclaimed 01-sep-05 241 am it is not a guess miles from the idiotic crap you say it is fact. while their medical system is far from perfect it is one hell of a lot better than what we have unless you are rich of course. my father in law passed away from a form of leukemia a few years ago over there and while he was alive they took damn good care of him including weekly transfusions and other medications which cost him all of nothing for three years from the time of diagnosis until his death. now where does your knowledge come from oh thats right it doesnt. tbone im going to have to disagree with you here. nhs sucks. i *live* here have health issues. im sure some nhs doctors are fine and actually im quite impressed with the local hospital here but my local clinic *sucks*. the two times i needed tests took three months before i got an appointment. nhs thinks its doing a good job if the average wait for a procedure is less than 90 days received a brochure on this i once went in and told the gp i was having nearly debilitating headaches - headaches that arent helped by any otc meds ive tried. i have damage in my shoulders and neck which cause tension but the headaches have gotten bad enough i thought maybe they were migraine. what was i told take 3 ibuprofen. if it helps the headache at all its a migraine. if not its a tension headache. and what to do if its a tension headache relax. i could go on but since this is way off topic... our us healthcare system may not be the greatest but at least i dont see the absolute apathy i get from both my nhs gps. like i said it is not perfect but unless you have money or insurance here you get nothing at all. to get back on topic our gas prices jumped again as well. our cheap gas is now $2.85 per gallon. $3.24 a gallon for regular unleaded here. will probably be higher tomorrow. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
suddenly without warning tbone exclaimed 01-sep-05 241 am it is not a guess miles from the idiotic crap you say it is fact. while their medical system is far from perfect it is one hell of a lot better than what we have unless you are rich of course. my father in law passed away from a form of leukemia a few years ago over there and while he was alive they took damn good care of him including weekly transfusions and other medications which cost him all of nothing for three years from the time of diagnosis until his death. now where does your knowledge come from oh thats right it doesnt. tbone im going to have to disagree with you here. nhs sucks. i *live* here have health issues. im sure some nhs doctors are fine and actually im quite impressed with the local hospital here but my local clinic *sucks*. the two times i needed tests took three months before i got an appointment. nhs thinks its doing a good job if the average wait for a procedure is less than 90 days received a brochure on this i once went in and told the gp i was having nearly debilitating headaches - headaches that arent helped by any otc meds ive tried. i have damage in my shoulders and neck which cause tension but the headaches have gotten bad enough i thought maybe they were migraine. what was i told take 3 ibuprofen. if it helps the headache at all its a migraine. if not its a tension headache. and what to do if its a tension headache relax. i could go on but since this is way off topic... our us healthcare system may not be the greatest but at least i dont see the absolute apathy i get from both my nhs gps. to get back on topic our gas prices jumped again as well. our cheap gas is now $2.85 per gallon. .
From : tbone
every 318 or 360 i ave ever owned 3 360s or driven over a dozen pinged a little or in the case of the 2000s and 2001s a lot. i didnt buy a 2000 ram and that was one of the main reason. bdk 2003 hemi ram.. ive only owned two. a 90 and a 92. both pinged until i put colder plugs in. the 92 tows everything and has most of its life. i run 87 in it and it never pings. with the factory plugs it would ping under medium power output. give it more or less throttle and it would quit. al 92 w250 360 5 speed. .
From : max dodge
.... tbone wrote lol. actually because they are lighter they tend to bounce off unlike your 2 ton suvs that tend to turn into a blob especially when they hit each other. yeah the car crashes out there look like pin ball games anymore dont they dont you remember crumple zones theyre whats supposed to make small cars safer. crumples dont bounce worth a shit. i think im going to get a couple of bumper stickers for my 68 and 69 model cars saying your car is my crumple zone. .
From : jmc
on a hot day when your ecm has to retard the spark to control fuel knock. you do understand your v8 assuming youre driving a dodge truck of course has no knock sensor and therefore no ability to retard timing and therefore as mike says premium fuel offers no benefit over mid-grade gasoline. and since the op has a 5.2l v8 mikes statement is 100% correct. they know more than automotive engineers and engine designers and that 87 is the fuel to use. you mean like the engineers who wrote the owners manual that states the vehicle was designed to run on 87 octane fuel i ran 91 in my dakota 5.2 for a while... after getting the cat replaced i stuck with 87 and have not had any problems since. .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning miles exclaimed 01-sep-05 206 am tbone wrote actually much of that taxation is used to fund their national health system. england has high gas taxes for the main reason to reduce the number of cars on the road. ever drive in london oh yes that wonderfull socialized health care fiasco in the uk. no thanks. actually london has a congestion charge to reduce driving in the city. dont remember the exact amount but i think it just went up to 8 per day about $15. dont know the answer as to where the gas tax goes. i do know that at least out here in the boonies roads are repaired *before* they turn into a pothole-laden nightmare. though i sometimes wonder if its makework because ive seen roads repaired that didnt look damaged at all. jmc .
From : tbone
lol can you really be this stupid. hurricanes are just about impossible to predict as to exact path and strength. yeah thats why they are able to put a five day track on them and pretty much nail the track dead on. if they are within 100 miles and they were on such a storm they nailed it. lol yea within their 100 mile cone of uncertainty. the problem with that is that 100 miles makes a huge difference in the amount of damage. you do know that right and on top of that do you really want tankers in port with an approaching hurricane until it got there into the gulf they had no idea where it would wind up and when it did cross over florida it entered the gulf as a weak category 1. yeah and everyone knows a hurricane over water gathers strength. lol that is not true. hurricanes over warm water gain strength but that is not the only condition and although they gain strength there is no way of knowing how much. they predicted a strong 3 or possibly a 4 not the 5 that it became. except you apparently. weak category 1 shows how much you actually know about this sort of thing. still apparently far more than you do. then after it got there they still had no idea how much stronger it would get or its path back out. it tracked almost exactly as noaa had it on their websites. yea within their 100 mile possible deviation and no idea of how strong it might become. the other ones are already under maximum proguction so what exactly do you expect them to do and even if they could produce more how exactly do you expect to get the product to where it needs to go you seem to think trucks and trains are the answer so why ask me because you claim to know everything. trucks and trains are an emergency solution but you keep saying that the impact is minimal so perhaps you know something that everyone else doesnt. the and the president. let me get this straight you believe the president on this issue but everything else from the economy to the iraq war you say h has no clue and doesnt have the facts. is that how it works and you claim that he is right about everything and now he is lying lol. that door swings both ways maxi. the difference here is that the damage is obvious and the reports back him up this time. i know more about this than you do. apparently not. wrong again but why spoil a near perfect record. the key word being believed. that is correct and that belief has to be based on some facts and figures. the people that can afford to make these investments didnt get that money by being foolish. has to be yeah im sure all the day traders know exactly what they are looking at. and im sure all the info sources have it right. just like the president does this one time with your beliefs. that is right the belief has to be based of some facts and figures or they are fools and would be soon parted from that money. having some facts and figures does not mean that they know everything and things can change and the can simply be wrong but playing the futures market is much more involved than just making lucky guesses as you seem to indicate. dont tell me talk to shell. they made the comment on cnbc today. did you forget about the evacuations on those platforms and shell owns all the platforms right why would they be any different than the rest of them lol just look at the area and the aerial pictures. the place is a disaster with no housing power or water. where are these people going to live who operate these refineries and how are they going to more the refined materials with the pipeline down the roads under water and no fuel for the trucks to transport it youd be surprised what large industry can do when they see a profit opportunity. all those questions and more will be answered by the close of business friday. bet on it. of course they are going at it for all that they are worth but there are limits to even what the big oil companies can do and it all costs money. people still need food water and shelter and until a temporary infrastructure can be set up to support these needs not much is going to happen and i doubt that business is going to close for them on friday. try cnbc the local the president cnn.... yeah i listed cnn as one of my sources and here you are contradicting it. you list the president as a reliable source which contradicts anything youve said about the man in recorced history and expect me to believe what you say. laughable at best. lol believe what you want to max you are still wrong. as of 1000am on cnbs 91% of crude production in the gulf has been reported as stopped which is considered significant to me. reports now indicate that up to 20 platforms are missing and the ones still there are just beginning to undergo inspections. so much for minor damage. please post 25 times in response to this i w
From : john smith
... tbone wrote lol. actually because they are lighter they tend to bounce off unlike your 2 ton suvs that tend to turn into a blob especially when they hit each other. yeah the car crashes out there look like pin ball games anymore dont they dont you remember crumple zones theyre whats supposed to make small cars safer. crumples dont bounce worth a shit. i think im going to get a couple of bumper stickers for my 68 and 69 model cars saying your car is my crumple zone. you are right they do have crumple zones and because of their lighter weight they are highly effective but if the damage goes beyond the crumple zones to the structural members they do tend to bounce off. those safe suvs have so much mass unless they hit a light vehicle there crumple zones are not as effective and if the damage extends into the structural members they tend to become the new unintended crumple zone along with the passengers. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : john smith
tell us why gore wanted to tap the reserves when gas prices rose during his campaign tell us how it wasnt pure politics. i know this one! from http//www.rednova.com//science/204323/asuperfluouspetroleumreserve/ in september of 2000 president bill clinton ordered the release of 30 million barrels of oil from the spr to offset a spike in heating oil prices in the northeast. the decision came one day after an appeal from vice-president al gore who was locked in a tight and ultimately unsuccessful presidential campaign. the political motivations for clintons decision are worrisome as is the minimal effect. at the time refineries were operating at full capacity so the excess crude did little to lower heating oil prices. there was simply a shortage of heating oil on the market not crude. even the white house admitted that only about 40 percent of the released oil would eventually be converted to heating oil. now the president has said that he will tap the strategic reserves which would if the price was driven up by pure speculation cause a major price drop and again that didnt happen. a $2.00 price drop means nothing and today the price held at $70 a barrel. geez tbone are you that ignorant hes proven it more times than i can count. yea and you have had such useful input in the group. now gfy. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
tell us why gore wanted to tap the reserves when gas prices rose during his campaign tell us how it wasnt pure politics. i know this one! from http//www.rednova.com//science/204323/asuperfluouspetroleumreserve/ in september of 2000 president bill clinton ordered the release of 30 million barrels of oil from the spr to offset a spike in heating oil prices in the northeast. the decision came one day after an appeal from vice-president al gore who was locked in a tight and ultimately unsuccessful presidential campaign. the political motivations for clintons decision are worrisome as is the minimal effect. at the time refineries were operating at full capacity so the excess crude did little to lower heating oil prices. there was simply a shortage of heating oil on the market not crude. even the white house admitted that only about 40 percent of the released oil would eventually be converted to heating oil. now the president has said that he will tap the strategic reserves which would if the price was driven up by pure speculation cause a major price drop and again that didnt happen. a $2.00 price drop means nothing and today the price held at $70 a barrel. geez tbone are you that ignorant hes proven it more times than i can count. a puny release of us oil reserves to help a few local refineries isnt going to affect the global futures price of oil more than the $2 it did. domestic oil prices flucuate only short term and will always follow the global futures market for the longer term. .
From : tbone
gee - i havent seen the i know you are but what am i retort in quite a while... with the huge number of replies hes posted to this thread it had to show up eventually. i lost count but its gotta be over 30 by now. probably be over 50 before he gets played out. hell hell probably reply to this even thought its not directed at him nor is it on topic for the thread. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. whatever youll just spew more garbage. stop accusing me of your actions. gee - i havent seen the i know you are but what am i retort in quite a while... .
From : tbone
tbone wrote lol we are part of the global community and our waste of resources has a huge affect on the global price of oil. so you think the current oil escalation in price since january is because of us waste of resources another bonehead statement. is it the whole reason of course not and my statement says no such thing but if you think that it has no or even just a small effect the true boneheaded statement is comming from you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tom lawrence
good one ted.. ... i am certainly with you.. if it holds for the 1st day i also would expect it to outlast the rest of the system at this point !!! if he wants to take it to the dealer and have the car rebuilt around it.... bully for him.. agree the only way to fix it is yank it all and pitch it.. maybe find a u-pull with low miles and good shape.. hell if the guy wanted to spend $2500 on the car he wouldnt have been here in the first place !! my guess also is that the op should start frequenting car washes that wash the undercarriage on a regular basis. or do it himself. its a nasty job but necessary in some climates. ted .
From : miles
a couple of other owners of 1999 dodge durangos it seems they are experiencing the same problem. anybody have any wisdom theyd like to offer help! checked for an intake plenum gasket leak pull the pcv valve out of the valve cover and cover the hole with your thumb. check for vacuum there with the engine running. if you feel vacuum your plenum gasket is leaking and the knocking is from carbon deposits caused by burning oil in the combustion chambers. the fix involved removing the intake manifold replacing the gasket and cleaning the combustion chambers with cc cleaner then changing the plugs as the cc treatment usually fouls em pretty bad .
From : miles
justaskit wrote over the last couple of months the gearbox has gotten progressively stiffer and stiffer. at first it was only when cold now it is difficult to shift between any gears. this crewcab 4x4 with the 4.7l and 5-spd box has about 65k miles. has anyone dealt with this issue before any suggestions change the gear oil and make sure its the right viscosity. when was it last changed .
From : tbone
tbone wrote lol. actually because they are lighter they tend to bounce off unlike your 2 ton suvs that tend to turn into a blob especially when they hit each other. oh now thats pretty funny. most tin can cars are safer in accidents than most larger suvs and trucks according to you. now theres a bonehead statement from you. wrong again. those little tin cans as you call them are much stronger than you think and many times your big top heavy suvs hit them climb up on them and overturn. there ya go again trying to explain that tin can cars are safer in accidents. too funny. like i said just excuses to justify your desires. ya i desire to protect my family rather than cramming them all into a tin can. .
From : tbone
lol can you really be this stupid. hurricanes are just about impossible to predict as to exact path and strength. yeah thats why they are able to put a five day track on them and pretty much nail the track dead on. if they are within 100 miles and they were on such a storm they nailed it. until it got there into the gulf they had no idea where it would wind up and when it did cross over florida it entered the gulf as a weak category 1. yeah and everyone knows a hurricane over water gathers strength. except you apparently. weak category 1 shows how much you actually know about this sort of thing. then after it got there they still had no idea how much stronger it would get or its path back out. it tracked almost exactly as noaa had it on their websites. the other ones are already under maximum proguction so what exactly do you expect them to do and even if they could produce more how exactly do you expect to get the product to where it needs to go you seem to think trucks and trains are the answer so why ask me the and the president. let me get this straight you believe the president on this issue but everything else from the economy to the iraq war you say h has no clue and doesnt have the facts. is that how it works i know more about this than you do. apparently not. the key word being believed. that is correct and that belief has to be based on some facts and figures. the people that can afford to make these investments didnt get that money by being foolish. has to be yeah im sure all the day traders know exactly what they are looking at. and im sure all the info sources have it right. just like the president does this one time with your beliefs. dont tell me talk to shell. they made the comment on cnbc today. did you forget about the evacuations on those platforms and shell owns all the platforms right lol just look at the area and the aerial pictures. the place is a disaster with no housing power or water. where are these people going to live who operate these refineries and how are they going to more the refined materials with the pipeline down the roads under water and no fuel for the trucks to transport it youd be surprised what large industry can do when they see a profit opportunity. all those questions and more will be answered by the close of business friday. bet on it. try cnbc the local the president cnn.... yeah i listed cnn as one of my sources and here you are contradicting it. you list the president as a reliable source which contradicts anything youve said about the man in recorced history and expect me to believe what you say. laughable at best. please post 25 times in response to this i want to see you top 100 worthless posts to this thread. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. lol a reserve for how long max. these refineries could be down for months and who knows how long it will take to fully repair the infrastructure. and btw they had days not weeks to prepare. um no they had weeks its hurricane season and they knew a week in advance that katrina was coming into the gulf. thus they had at least ten days to figure it out maybe more. im sure they have their own meteorological staff that helps them keep track of such things. lol can you really be this stupid. hurricanes are just about impossible to predict as to exact path and strength. until it got there into the gulf they had no idea where it would wind up and when it did cross over florida it entered the gulf as a weak category 1. then after it got there they still had no idea how much stronger it would get or its path back out. at first they thought it would turn ne and hit florida again. like i said at best they had days and either way and until it actually made landfall they still didnt know exactly where it was going to hit. btw refineries under water dont produce much and pipelines without power to their pumps transport nothing. as to the damage im still not seeing anything that says the damage was more than minor to these refineries. while the damage may be minor they dont have the power or personel to restart right away and many are still under water and cannot restart until the water is removed. what kills me is yall act like there are no refineries anywhere else in the u.s. the other ones are already under maximum proguction so what exactly do you expect them to do and even if they could produce more how exactly do you expect to get the product to where it needs to go typically dozens of tankers sit waiting for a place to offload. sure and where are they going to offload too its a big country and since texas has terminals as do states along the east coast. if the oil companies felt they had a problem you can bet the tankers would be sent elsewhere to
From : tbone
tbone wrote if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. because of oil prices globally tbone!! not too low of gas supplies. gas prices here arent because of us issues. its global issues. lol we are part of the global community and our waste of resources has a huge affect on the global price of oil. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
tbone wrote as to the president we all know why hes considering it. political favor insurance in keeping a good economy etc. tell us why gore wanted to tap the reserves when gas prices rose during his campaign tell us how it wasnt pure politics. since i dont believe that bush is running for any type of office at this time what does what gore may have done have anything to do with now now the president has said that he will tap the strategic reserves which would if the price was driven up by pure speculation cause a major price drop and again that didnt happen. a $2.00 price drop means nothing and today the price held at $70 a barrel. geez tbone are you that ignorant a puny release of us oil reserves to help a few local refineries isnt going to affect the global futures price of oil more than the $2 it did. domestic oil prices flucuate only short term and will always follow the global futures market for the longer term. but what you seem to be missing is the fact that global futures are going up and unless the supply is strained that simply would not happen at least no to the level that it currently is. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
lol a reserve for how long max. these refineries could be down for months and who knows how long it will take to fully repair the infrastructure. and btw they had days not weeks to prepare. um no they had weeks its hurricane season and they knew a week in advance that katrina was coming into the gulf. thus they had at least ten days to figure it out maybe more. im sure they have their own meteorological staff that helps them keep track of such things. lol can you really be this stupid. hurricanes are just about impossible to predict as to exact path and strength. until it got there into the gulf they had no idea where it would wind up and when it did cross over florida it entered the gulf as a weak category 1. then after it got there they still had no idea how much stronger it would get or its path back out. at first they thought it would turn ne and hit florida again. like i said at best they had days and either way and until it actually made landfall they still didnt know exactly where it was going to hit. btw refineries under water dont produce much and pipelines without power to their pumps transport nothing. as to the damage im still not seeing anything that says the damage was more than minor to these refineries. while the damage may be minor they dont have the power or personel to restart right away and many are still under water and cannot restart until the water is removed. what kills me is yall act like there are no refineries anywhere else in the u.s. the other ones are already under maximum proguction so what exactly do you expect them to do and even if they could produce more how exactly do you expect to get the product to where it needs to go typically dozens of tankers sit waiting for a place to offload. sure and where are they going to offload too its a big country and since texas has terminals as do states along the east coast. if the oil companies felt they had a problem you can bet the tankers would be sent elsewhere to off load. lol yea and they will get there when in a week or so. and if these east coast and texas refineries are already operating at maximum capacity what exactly is this extra crude going to do for them yea a buffer for a few days or even weeks not months. ok so who says itll be months the and the president. not only do you have to look at the futures market max you actually have to understand it and from what you are saying you dont. ahh yes the ol you dont know what youre talking about and neither do i so ill just insult you and leave my defense of my statements at that. i know more about this than you do. how original. if it were only this simple. it is that simple. nope. first of all the only way that people could drive uip the price this way is if the supplies are limited which according to you they are not. wrong. you obviously dont know how the market works. these people are buying a stake in the future of oil production expecting that their investment will bear a return. they arent buying a supply they are buying and risking on a product yet to be produced. that is correct and that risk has to be founded in something. if as you and miles say that the supply is just fine there would be no justification in taking that risk and at the first sign of trouble like the president opening the national reserves the price would crash just like it did with the tech bubble. then there is a significant risk of loss driving up the price in a market that has a ready supply because someone else can sell below what you even paid for it is supplies are plentyful. this is only the beginning and i really dont have the time to list out point by point why this is wrong and you really need to do a little reading. i have but it seems you have not. if you read it you didnt understand what you were reading. the only thing that i will say that the only way for the futures of something to be driven up like this is because the near future availability of of the item is believed to be in short supply. the key word being believed. that is correct and that belief has to be based on some facts and figures. the people that can afford to make these investments didnt get that money by being foolish. the price is always determined by the market max. if people will not pay the price that you want then you lose money. but in the case of fuel they keep buying dont they thus the spiral goes on. sure they keep buying but they tend to buy less and buy more fuel efficient vehicles and if the reserves of gas increase the price falls and these investors lose money. the futures market tells me all i need to see. unless supplies in the near future are going to be strained the price cannot be driven up like that and the today backs me up. except for that little word you used believed ..to be in sh
From : tbone
as to the president we all know why hes considering it. political favor insurance in keeping a good economy etc. the above are my words. regardless there are two reasons for a president to tap the reserves 1 political favor 2 economic gain or stability. you forgot one how about need. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : steve scott
lol but they dont have to and there are no rules when it comes to price gouging well hooray for mr. economics. you lose. what i suggested was that one station should hold its price under another station thus selling more fuel at its rate of gouge than the other guys profiting on volume not percentage. because with the comming panic they are probably going to sell out anyway so why not sell it for the most money possible. so no they dont have to but why wouldnt they read above. whatever youll just spew more garbage. stop accusing me of your actions. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
its both really. anticipated increases in global demand while current world oil production is near its peak have driven up the oil futures. nine consecutive weeks of a decrease in us gas stockpiles has also helped to drive up us gas prices. on thu 01 sep 2005 014643 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote apparently pre-kat the refineries in the us have been running darned near to capacity. there havent been any new refineries built in the us in far too long. too many nimbyers. terrific but to use that logic a drop of 10% in production in the past week is being blamed for a 60% rise in cost over the past year. simply isnt so. fact is global demand has driven the speculative market over the past year not lack of refinery capacity in the past week. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. apparently pre-kat the refineries in the us have been running darned near to capacity. there havent been any new refineries built in the us in far too long. too many nimbyers. on wed 31 aug 2005 233739 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote what kills me is yall act like there are no refin
From : steve scott
tbone wrote and where exactly are these tankers going to unload and how is that going to help the midwest what they arent stuck out there you know. crude has changed in value on ships since crude was first loaded on a ship. you think these tankers drive up a river or something. they can unload in any port with storage just like they always have. .
From : tbone
actually yes it does but are you able to figure out how or why -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving nine weeks does not explain 9 months of rising prices. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. from ft.com today us gasoline futures surged to a record high on wednesday after the department of energy reported a 500000 barrel drop in gasoline inventories to 194.4m barrels as stocks fell for a ninth week in succession. this was through august 26 before katrina. apparently demand is exceeding supply and we know what happens next. on thu 01 sep 2005 013836 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. good question tbone. too bad what youve said doesnt answer that question. face it the prices were climbing fast before the gulf storm. yet you continue to blame it on refinery shut downs and storm damage. sure thats part of it but it wasnt part of the price climb prior to august 28th. prices are up by 60% over the past year yet demand isnt up that much. nor is supply down by that much. refinery capacity isnt down that much 7 or 11% depending on which story you read on cnn money nor is production in the field. opec has volunteered to pump the hell out of the stuff so no shortage of crude. btw cnn also says the price of futures sank by $1.81 upon of the feds release of reserve. i guess they think $2 is a pretty good drop. so what is it if miles and i are wrong about the specualtive market driving this rise in prices .
From : max dodge
now steve stop confusing max and miles with such things as facts. as long as they keep their heads in the sand everything is fine and there is enough oil to last forever at an ever increasing rate of consumption. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving from ft.com today us gasoline futures surged to a record high on wednesday after the department of energy reported a 500000 barrel drop in gasoline inventories to 194.4m barrels as stocks fell for a ninth week in succession. this was through august 26 before katrina. apparently demand is exceeding supply and we know what happens next. on thu 01 sep 2005 013836 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. good question tbone. too bad what youve said doesnt answer that question. face it the prices were climbing fast before the gulf storm. yet you continue to blame it on refinery shut downs and storm damage. sure thats part of it but it wasnt part of the price climb prior to august 28th. prices are up by 60% over the past year yet demand isnt up that much. nor is supply down by that much. refinery capacity isnt down that much 7 or 11% depending on which story you read on cnn money nor is production in the field. opec has volunteered to pump the hell out of the stuff so no shortage of crude. btw cnn also says the price of futures sank by $1.81 upon of the feds release of reserve. i guess they think $2 is a pretty good drop. so what is it if miles and i are wrong about the specualtive market driving this rise in prices .
From : steve scott
nine weeks does not explain 9 months of rising prices. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. from ft.com today us gasoline futures surged to a record high on wednesday after the department of energy reported a 500000 barrel drop in gasoline inventories to 194.4m barrels as stocks fell for a ninth week in succession. this was through august 26 before katrina. apparently demand is exceeding supply and we know what happens next. on thu 01 sep 2005 013836 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. good question tbone. too bad what youve said doesnt answer that question. face it the prices were climbing fast before the gulf storm. yet you continue to blame it on refinery shut downs and storm damage. sure thats part of it but it wasnt part of the price climb prior to august 28th. prices are up by 60% over the past year yet demand isnt up that much. nor is supply down by that much. refinery capacity isnt down that much 7 or 11% depending on which story you read on cnn money nor is production in the field. opec has volunteered to pump the hell out of the stuff so no shortage of crude. btw cnn also says the price of futures sank by $1.81 upon of the feds release of reserve. i guess they think $2 is a pretty good drop. so what is it if miles and i are wrong about the specualtive market driving this rise in prices .
From : tbone
the u.s. . 222 305170 jmqch19jb24h6f8g3bsav7dhn2d2e8ifn4@4ax.com from ft.com today us gasoline futures surged to a record high on wednesday after the department of energy reported a 500000 barrel drop in gasoline inventories to 194.4m barrels as stocks fell for a ninth week in succession. this was through august 26 before katrina. apparently demand is exceeding supply and we know what happens next. on thu 01 sep 2005 013836 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. good question tbone. too bad what youve said doesnt answer that question. face it the prices were climbing fast before the gulf storm. yet you continue to blame it on refinery shut downs and storm damage. sure thats part of it but it wasnt part of the price climb prior to august 28th. prices are up by 60% over the past year yet demand isnt up that much. nor is supply down by that much. refinery capacity isnt down that much 7 or 11% depending on which story you read on cnn money nor is production in the field. opec has volunteered to pump the hell out of the stuff so no shortage of crude. btw cnn also says the price of futures sank by $1.81 upon of the feds release of reserve. i guess they think $2 is a pretty good drop. so what is it if miles and i are wrong about the specualtive market driving this rise in prices .
From : tbone
tbone wrote complete bs and nothing more than a justification of ignorance. just as many people die when one of those larger vehicles flips over or hits another large vehicle and as max pointed out a while ago most of the deaths in these smaller vehicles occurs in single vehicle accidents which i would attribute to the drivers thinking that they are slot cars and can turn at any speed. complete bs. small tin can cars crush easier than bigger cars. lol. actually because they are lighter they tend to bounce off unlike your 2 ton suvs that tend to turn into a blob especially when they hit each other. as to your flipping over bs thats somewhat limited to certain suvs and is very attibutable to drivers lack of skills and over reaction. wrong again. those little tin cans as you call them are much stronger than you think and many times your big top heavy suvs hit them climb up on them and overturn. also you need to realize that the newer suvs have a substantially improved handling and are far less prone to roll overs even with the idiot drivers behind them. they are still overweight and top heavy and statistics show them to be no safer than any other vehicle actually they tend to be less so. point is tbone. no way am i going to cram my family into a tiny tin can just to save a little gas. my family is worth more. like i said just excuses to justify your desires. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : transurgeon
once again you talk out of your ass. how about the demand steadily going up against an already strained supply. the supply can be strained without shortages and his theory is completely valid and correct. many gas stations in the midwest are now charging over $3 a gallon for regular and many are simply out of fuel. sounds like a shortage to me. i dont know of any area that is without fuel thus no shortage. i dont see reports of any stations running out of fuel. then i guess that you are not watching the . talking out my ass lol you keep claiming things that would make national but yet ive seen no reports. read above. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : transurgeon
if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. good question tbone. too bad what youve said doesnt answer that question. lol that depends on what question. face it the prices were climbing fast before the gulf storm. yet you continue to blame it on refinery shut downs and storm damage. i did no such thing. i said the current sudden increase was due to supply and demand and the supply was cut down by the storm. sure thats part of it but it wasnt part of the price climb prior to august 28th. never said that it was. that increase is caused by a strain on supply due to increasing demand something that miles says doesnt exist. prices are up by 60% over the past year yet demand isnt up that much. really got proof. nor is supply down by that much. refinery capacity isnt down that much 7 or 11% depending on which story you read on cnn money nor is production in the field. a major pipeline is now down due to power failures so supply is much more greatly affected than you think. then you can add to that the fact that most of our refineries are already at 100% and a 7 to 11 percent reduction is major. opec has volunteered to pump the hell out of the stuff so no shortage of crude. getting more crude does not help when you cant get it where it needs to go. btw cnn also says the price of futures sank by $1.81 upon of the feds release of reserve. i guess they think $2 is a pretty good drop. yep and i would say that is close to the increase from pure speculation. gee i wounder where the rest of the increase is comming from. so what is it if miles and i are wrong about the specualtive market driving this rise in prices it is that the supply is not what you think it is. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
lol but they dont have to and there are no rules when it comes to price gouging well hooray for mr. economics. you lose. what i suggested was that one station should hold its price under another station thus selling more fuel at its rate of gouge than the other guys profiting on volume not percentage. well theres the problem..........you used percentage trying to explain something to the bonehead .
From : tbone
simply isnt so. fact is global demand has driven the speculative market over the past year not lack of refinery capacity in the past week. dont neglect the media fueling the feeding frenzy if the media would stfu for a few days prices would stabilize; instead their constant harping leads operators to think hey the people have the general public believing it will go still higher lets raise it another 20 cents........ .
From : tbone
lol but they dont have to and there are no rules when it comes to price gouging well hooray for mr. economics. you lose. what i suggested was that one station should hold its price under another station thus selling more fuel at its rate of gouge than the other guys profiting on volume not percentage. so no they dont have to but why wouldnt they whatever youll just spew more garbage. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. lol but they dont have to and there are no rules when it comes to price gouging -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yup ive seen stations around here upping the price on fuel they already bought. if they were smart theyd up the price but still undercut the other guys... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. max dodge wrote i dont know of any area that is without fuel thus no shortage. i dont see reports of any stations running out of fuel. the past couple days there were some stations here saying they were out of fuel. they were not. they knew the price would climb this week so they held it. the proved this point by showing delivery schedules indicating no new deliveries yet stations one day had none and today have plenty...at substantially higher selling prices. .
From : max dodge
lol but they dont have to and there are no rules when it comes to price gouging -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yup ive seen stations around here upping the price on fuel they already bought. if they were smart theyd up the price but still undercut the other guys... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. max dodge wrote i dont know of any area that is without fuel thus no shortage. i dont see reports of any stations running out of fuel. the past couple days there were some stations here saying they were out of fuel. they were not. they knew the price would climb this week so they held it. the proved this point by showing delivery schedules indicating no new deliveries yet stations one day had none and today have plenty...at substantially higher selling prices. .
From : tbone
tbone wrote if the price is being driven up purely by speculation any release from the stragic oil reserves will just about erase it due to investor fear. geez the ignorance on your part is just unbelievable. you really seem to think a puny amount of us domestic oil released is going to change global futures speculation. damn right just like a slight bad report can cause a stock to crash. if the supply was not strained the risk would be way to high to push the prices to the level that they currently are and at the first sign of something that could cause the price to fall would cause a selloff. the reason that the selloff isnt happening is because they know that the supply is limited and will soon be exceeded by demand especially in the light of this storm damage. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
apparently pre-kat the refineries in the us have been running darned near to capacity. there havent been any new refineries built in the us in far too long. too many nimbyers. terrific but to use that logic a drop of 10% in production in the past week is being blamed for a 60% rise in cost over the past year. simply isnt so. fact is global demand has driven the speculative market over the past year not lack of refinery capacity in the past week. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. apparently pre-kat the refineries in the us have been running darned near to capacity. there havent been any new refineries built in the us in far too long. too many nimbyers. on wed 31 aug 2005 233739 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote what kills me is yall act like there are no refineries anywhere else in the u.s. .
From : max dodge
tbone wrote lol because the midwest and the southeast are still going to need fuel and where do you think that it is going to come from how about the areas that have not been damaged or directly effected by this storm which puts further pressure on strained supplies in the areas that you mentioned so the supply in your area will not remain constant. care to try again ok wizard. tell us what pipeline goes from the refineries in l.a. or anywhere else in the region to the midwest and east coast how is this fuel going to get there all trucked lol thats alot of trucks! lol that is exactly how it is going to get there trucks and trains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
tbone wrote complete bs miles. my wife is from gb and most of her family still lives there. i go there about twice a year what about you nice try at bluffing there tbone. yes i go there as well and have relatives there. sure you do. high taxes on gas are to reduce cars. sure it may go to healthcare. they need every penny they can get from taxes to pay for social services. yes they do need the money and get it from the gas tax and while they do not have the number of cars per family that many americans do their streets are far from empty. lol once again you talk out of your ass with no actual knowledge. try again. i do have actual knowledge. prove it how many relatives and where in the country. why do you make such stupid statements based on guessing about someone or something you know nothing about it is not a guess miles from the idiotic crap you say it is fact. while their medical system is far from perfect it is one hell of a lot better than what we have unless you are rich of course. my father in law passed away from a form of leukemia a few years ago over there and while he was alive they took damn good care of him including weekly transfusions and other medications which cost him all of nothing for three years from the time of diagnosis until his death. now where does your knowledge come from oh thats right it doesnt. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : steve scott
as to the president we all know why hes considering it. political favor insurance in keeping a good economy etc. the above are my words. regardless there are two reasons for a president to tap the reserves 1 political favor 2 economic gain or stability. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. tbone wrote as to the president we all know why hes considering it. political favor insurance in keeping a good economy etc. tell us why gore wanted to tap the reserves when gas prices rose during his campaign tell us how it wasnt pure politics. now the president has said that he will tap the strategic reserves which would if the price was driven up by pure speculation cause a major price drop and again that didnt happen. a $2.00 price drop means nothing and today the price held at $70 a barrel. geez tbone are you that ignorant a puny release of us oil reserves to help a few local refineries isnt going to affect the global futures price of oil more than the $2 it did. domestic oil prices flucuate only short term and will always follow the global futures market for the longer term. .
From : jerry
and if current history in metals is any indicator they would be right in thinking so. on wed 31 aug 2005 182504 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote steve scott wrote because speculators are betting the price will go up even more due to world conditions. miles is right. the futures market has been driving the price of oil the past few months. yep for starters they are betting that china will continue to increase its demand and willingness to bid prices higher. .
From : miles
tbone wrote actually much of that taxation is used to fund their national health system. england has high gas taxes for the main reason to reduce the number of cars on the road. ever drive in london oh yes that wonderfull socialized health care fiasco in the uk. no thanks. .
From : miles
tbone wrote if the price is being driven up purely by speculation any release from the stragic oil reserves will just about erase it due to investor fear. geez the ignorance on your part is just unbelievable. you really seem to think a puny amount of us domestic oil released is going to change global futures speculation. .
From : steve scott
if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. good question tbone. too bad what youve said doesnt answer that question. face it the prices were climbing fast before the gulf storm. yet you continue to blame it on refinery shut downs and storm damage. sure thats part of it but it wasnt part of the price climb prior to august 28th. prices are up by 60% over the past year yet demand isnt up that much. nor is supply down by that much. refinery capacity isnt down that much 7 or 11% depending on which story you read on cnn money nor is production in the field. opec has volunteered to pump the hell out of the stuff so no shortage of crude. btw cnn also says the price of futures sank by $1.81 upon of the feds release of reserve. i guess they think $2 is a pretty good drop. so what is it if miles and i are wrong about the specualtive market driving this rise in prices -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote not only do you have to look at the futures market max you actually have to understand it and from what you are saying you dont. the futures market for anything is based on speculation. like the stock market they go up and down daily. when oil futures go up gas prices climb almost instantly. when they go down gas prices take a considerable time to drop. all through this year the oil supply has been steady and stocks fairly constant. so as you say do some reading on this. .
From : tbone
hes not so far off with his assessment. do you know of anyone in gb over 60 getting kidney dialysis not available to those over 60. on thu 01 sep 2005 011452 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote tbone wrote actually much of that taxation is used to fund their national health system. england has high gas taxes for the main reason to reduce the number of cars on the road. ever drive in london complete bs miles. my wife is from gb and most of her family still lives there. i go there about twice a year what about you oh yes that wonderfull socialized health care fiasco in the uk. no thanks. lol once again you talk out of your ass with no actual knowledge. .
From : max dodge
steve scott wrote because speculators are betting the price will go up even more due to world conditions. miles is right. the futures market has been driving the price of oil the past few months. yep for starters they are betting that china will continue to increase its demand and willingness to bid prices higher. but if there is no problem with supply why would chinas increased demand have any effect on the price of oil i must admit it is funny to watch you disprove yourself. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : miles
sure they can put one in my backyard. sell them the whole property and they can have the front yard too. seriously there are many locations in the us where a refinery could be placed and the impact would be minimal. on thu 01 sep 2005 012440 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote while you are correct would you want one in your backyard -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving apparently pre-kat the refineries in the us have been running darned near to capacity. there havent been any new refineries built in the us in far too long. too many nimbyers. on wed 31 aug 2005 233739 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote what kills me is yall act like there are no refineries anywhere else in the u.s. .
From : tbone
yup ive seen stations around here upping the price on fuel they already bought. if they were smart theyd up the price but still undercut the other guys... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. max dodge wrote i dont know of any area that is without fuel thus no shortage. i dont see reports of any stations running out of fuel. the past couple days there were some stations here saying they were out of fuel. they were not. they knew the price would climb this week so they held it. the proved this point by showing delivery schedules indicating no new deliveries yet stations one day had none and today have plenty...at substantially higher selling prices. .
From : miles
while you are correct would you want one in your backyard -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving apparently pre-kat the refineries in the us have been running darned near to capacity. there havent been any new refineries built in the us in far too long. too many nimbyers. on wed 31 aug 2005 233739 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote what kills me is yall act like there are no refineries anywhere else in the u.s. .
From : miles
yep thats right. since roy posted about the gas prices going up prices in this area went from $2.54 on monday to $2.69 on tuesday to $3.10 today. i figure we all should head east if we have the bucks for the gas hunt down ole roy and stick his head in one of his beagle holes. vbfg denny stop yer bitchin! i was at $2.79 on monday a day ahead of you ya must be use to that.g on vacation this week and i aint turning a wheel. with that wide load you carry around id feel guilty if i didnt give you a days headstart..... love to see ya bring yer chubby ass this way. hell old orchard beach is still recovering from your last visit. roy ill make it back that way in another year or so. a friend of mine moved to vt. a couple of months ago so i got a couple of guys to mooch a free supper from and i still got to make it into northern maine to see some moose. this summer had too much shit going on and then i got to buy a new furnace/ac system so vacation go put on the back burner. im a wishing for a nice snowy winter to get caught up..bg denny where in vt. did he move roy .
From : steve scott
tbone wrote if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. because of oil prices globally tbone!! not too low of gas supplies. gas prices here arent because of us issues. its global issues. .
From : miles
apparently pre-kat the refineries in the us have been running darned near to capacity. there havent been any new refineries built in the us in far too long. too many nimbyers. on wed 31 aug 2005 233739 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote what kills me is yall act like there are no refineries anywhere else in the u.s. .
From : miles
tbone wrote complete bs miles. my wife is from gb and most of her family still lives there. i go there about twice a year what about you nice try at bluffing there tbone. yes i go there as well and have relatives there. high taxes on gas are to reduce cars. sure it may go to healthcare. they need every penny they can get from taxes to pay for social services. lol once again you talk out of your ass with no actual knowledge. try again. i do have actual knowledge. why do you make such stupid statements based on guessing about someone or something you know nothing about .
From : miles
tbone wrote which part of just to keep up dont you understand miles. just because they can keep up now doesnt mean that they can continue to do so if problems arise. so tell me tbone. here in az and all of the southwest northwest and pacific states get their oil and gas from the west coast and not the gulf region. yet gas prices here have gone up just the same as anywhere else in the country. supply remained constant. the storage center here in phoenix that supplies all gas stations is not running out. summer is ending so demand is dropping off slightly. so economic wizard you are tell us why prices here go up when nationally they do lol because the midwest and the southeast are still going to need fuel and where do you think that it is going to come from how about the areas that have not been damaged or directly effected by this storm which puts further pressure on strained supplies in the areas that you mentioned so the supply in your area will not remain constant. care to try again -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
max dodge wrote i dont know of any area that is without fuel thus no shortage. i dont see reports of any stations running out of fuel. the past couple days there were some stations here saying they were out of fuel. they were not. they knew the price would climb this week so they held it. the proved this point by showing delivery schedules indicating no new deliveries yet stations one day had none and today have plenty...at substantially higher selling prices. .
From : steve scott
because speculators are betting the price will go up even more due to world conditions. miles is right. the futures market has been driving the price of oil the past few months. on thu 01 sep 2005 010201 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote not only do you have to look at the futures market max you actually have to understand it and from what you are saying you dont. the futures market for anything is based on speculation. like the stock market they go up and down daily. when oil futures go up gas prices climb almost instantly. when they go down gas prices take a considerable time to drop. all through this year the oil supply has been steady and stocks fairly constant. so as you say do some reading on this. .
From : miles
tbone wrote complete bs and nothing more than a justification of ignorance. just as many people die when one of those larger vehicles flips over or hits another large vehicle and as max pointed out a while ago most of the deaths in these smaller vehicles occurs in single vehicle accidents which i would attribute to the drivers thinking that they are slot cars and can turn at any speed. complete bs. small tin can cars crush easier than bigger cars. as to your flipping over bs thats somewhat limited to certain suvs and is very attibutable to drivers lack of skills and over reaction. also you need to realize that the newer suvs have a substantially improved handling and are far less prone to roll overs even with the idiot drivers behind them. point is tbone. no way am i going to cram my family into a tiny tin can just to save a little gas. my family is worth more. .
From : miles
i belong to an hvac list with a few hundred members from all over the country. a couple of them today said there were stations closing in their area and that the folks there said they wouldnt have gas till monday. i think one of them was in nc but i couldnt swear to it. on wed 31 aug 2005 234227 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote once again you talk out of your ass. how about the demand steadily going up against an already strained supply. the supply can be strained without shortages and his theory is completely valid and correct. many gas stations in the midwest are now charging over $3 a gallon for regular and many are simply out of fuel. sounds like a shortage to me. i dont know of any area that is without fuel thus no shortage. i dont see reports of any stations running out of fuel. .
From : tbone
tbone wrote which part of just to keep up dont you understand miles. just because they can keep up now doesnt mean that they can continue to do so if problems arise. so tell me tbone. here in az and all of the southwest northwest and pacific states get their oil and gas from the west coast and not the gulf region. yet gas prices here have gone up just the same as anywhere else in the country. supply remained constant. the storage center here in phoenix that supplies all gas stations is not running out. summer is ending so demand is dropping off slightly. so economic wizard you are tell us why prices here go up when nationally they do .
From : miles
if the supply is so damn steady why has the price been rising steadily for the last few months. it appears to be you that need to do a little reading as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote not only do you have to look at the futures market max you actually have to understand it and from what you are saying you dont. the futures market for anything is based on speculation. like the stock market they go up and down daily. when oil futures go up gas prices climb almost instantly. when they go down gas prices take a considerable time to drop. all through this year the oil supply has been steady and stocks fairly constant. so as you say do some reading on this. .
From : max dodge
yep thats right. since roy posted about the gas prices going up prices in this area went from $2.54 on monday to $2.69 on tuesday to $3.10 today. i figure we all should head east if we have the bucks for the gas hunt down ole roy and stick his head in one of his beagle holes. vbfg denny stop yer bitchin! i was at $2.79 on monday a day ahead of you ya must be use to that.g on vacation this week and i aint turning a wheel. with that wide load you carry around id feel guilty if i didnt give you a days headstart..... love to see ya bring yer chubby ass this way. hell old orchard beach is still recovering from your last visit. roy ill make it back that way in another year or so. a friend of mine moved to vt. a couple of months ago so i got a couple of guys to mooch a free supper from and i still got to make it into northern maine to see some moose. this summer had too much shit going on and then i got to buy a new furnace/ac system so vacation go put on the back burner. im a wishing for a nice snowy winter to get caught up..bg denny .
From : max dodge
you didnt miss it you simply didnt understand it. $2 is chump change and means nothing. thanks for jumping through the same hoop twice. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. you seem to miss something here max. there was over a million barrels per day refining production shut down along the coast prior to the hurricane hitting. that is lost gas/diesel/jet/ production prior to the storm. didnt miss it at all and apparently neither did the market as the price on the trading day before landfall hit a high just over $70 and then dropped back just below $68 a barrel. if you read what i wrote youd see that i didnt miss that part since i used that pricing to rebut a comment exactly like yours. you didnt miss it you simply didnt understand it. $2 is chump change and means nothing. then the storm hits and does whatever damage to the facilities it does. if it were heavy damage it would take months to repair. if it were minor damage then they only have to do system checks and get rid of the gators and snakes and make it safe to operate again. this could be days of inspection testing and repair if you had full crews and extra contractors. true but days of inspection are better than months of no production. according to what i was hearing mid afternoon damage was minor. again i said that before. then you heard wrong. until they get the flood water out of the way there is no way to inspect and no idea how bad the damage really is so most of the reports that you hear right now are wishful thinking and simply bullshit. in the days of a regular plant shutdown/turnaround all this workforce worked there butts off and went home after their shift or to the motel. hello the homes are gone. there are no hotels. most of the infrastructure is gone. it is difficult to start a refinery with nobody to run it. lots of companies are helping the communities by bringing in basic needs. without that people wont be able to work. ok so the companies spend some of their profits and create the services needed to support employees. not a huge hardship given the size and resources of these companies. it is a huge hardship as much of the area is still under water and there is no way to get building supplies into these areas. then you can add the facts that there is no electricity drinking water or shelter nearby for the construction crews either and the problem becomes much larger than you want to see. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
once again you talk out of your ass. how about the demand steadily going up against an already strained supply. the supply can be strained without shortages and his theory is completely valid and correct. many gas stations in the midwest are now charging over $3 a gallon for regular and many are simply out of fuel. sounds like a shortage to me. i dont know of any area that is without fuel thus no shortage. i dont see reports of any stations running out of fuel. talking out my ass lol you keep claiming things that would make national but yet ive seen no reports. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. units are aready running at full capacity just to keep up with current demand. one goes offline the demand cannot be met. hence prices go up. interesting then that the prices have been going up since january. do they shut down a refinery or two each month they must if your theory is completely true. once again you talk out of your ass. how about the demand steadily going up against an already strained supply. the supply can be strained without shortages and his theory is completely valid and correct. many gas stations in the midwest are now charging over $3 a gallon for regular and many are simply out of fuel. sounds like a shortage to me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
good one ted.. ... i am certainly with you.. if it holds for the 1st day i also would expect it to outlast the rest of the system at this point !!! if he wants to take it to the dealer and have the car rebuilt around it.... bully for him.. agree the only way to fix it is yank it all and pitch it.. maybe find a u-pull with low miles and good shape.. hell if the guy wanted to spend $2500 on the car he wouldnt have been here in the first place !! my $.02 with yours .
From : tbone
mwarren wrote the truck belongs to my sister who will not run cheaper gas in it despite my reasoning with her that all she is doing is spending more money. i know that in certain applications i believe older vehicles obdi that chips and such may help fuel economy when using premium gas... didnt know if this was the case with late model trucks or older ones for that matter. thanks matt i used a hypertech programmer on mine. i set it to the mid grade program and power and mileage actually went up. then i set it to the premium fuel programm. power went up just a little but not much. fuel mileage went down. if she insists on using premium fuel anyway might as well use the hypertech and set it mid grade. i gained about 2mpg on steady highway driving and about 1mpg around town. the hypertech cost about $275-300. ill let you do the math on this one. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - finally on the road! .
From : tbone
you seem to miss something here max. there was over a million barrels per day refining production shut down along the coast prior to the hurricane hitting. that is lost gas/diesel/jet/ production prior to the storm. didnt miss it at all and apparently neither did the market as the price on the trading day before landfall hit a high just over $70 and then dropped back just below $68 a barrel. if you read what i wrote youd see that i didnt miss that part since i used that pricing to rebut a comment exactly like yours. you didnt miss it you simply didnt understand it. $2 is chump change and means nothing. then the storm hits and does whatever damage to the facilities it does. if it were heavy damage it would take months to repair. if it were minor damage then they only have to do system checks and get rid of the gators and snakes and make it safe to operate again. this could be days of inspection testing and repair if you had full crews and extra contractors. true but days of inspection are better than months of no production. according to what i was hearing mid afternoon damage was minor. again i said that before. then you heard wrong. until they get the flood water out of the way there is no way to inspect and no idea how bad the damage really is so most of the reports that you hear right now are wishful thinking and simply bullshit. in the days of a regular plant shutdown/turnaround all this workforce worked there butts off and went home after their shift or to the motel. hello the homes are gone. there are no hotels. most of the infrastructure is gone. it is difficult to start a refinery with nobody to run it. lots of companies are helping the communities by bringing in basic needs. without that people wont be able to work. ok so the companies spend some of their profits and create the services needed to support employees. not a huge hardship given the size and resources of these companies. it is a huge hardship as much of the area is still under water and there is no way to get building supplies into these areas. then you can add the facts that there is no electricity drinking water or shelter nearby for the construction crews either and the problem becomes much larger than you want to see. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
rm wrote thats why i bought a 5speed civic that gets 33 mpg. i drive my 4x4 360 only on weekends now. ive looked into doing that but then i passed a small vehicle squished like a bug in an accident. not worth the gas savings. complete bs and nothing more than a justification of ignorance. just as many people die when one of those larger vehicles flips over or hits another large vehicle and as max pointed out a while ago most of the deaths in these smaller vehicles occurs in single vehicle accidents which i would attribute to the drivers thinking that they are slot cars and can turn at any speed. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
which part of just to keep up dont you understand miles. just because they can keep up now doesnt mean that they can continue to do so if problems arise. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving geekboy wrote units are aready running at full capacity just to keep up with current demand. one goes offline the demand cannot be met. hence prices go up. current us inventories have been steady and not lacking at all. .
From : tbone
units are aready running at full capacity just to keep up with current demand. one goes offline the demand cannot be met. hence prices go up. interesting then that the prices have been going up since january. do they shut down a refinery or two each month they must if your theory is completely true. once again you talk out of your ass. how about the demand steadily going up against an already strained supply. the supply can be strained without shortages and his theory is completely valid and correct. many gas stations in the midwest are now charging over $3 a gallon for regular and many are simply out of fuel. sounds like a shortage to me. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
somehow i just dont believe that a few days of interrupted service will suddenly cause gas supplies to dwindle so low as to cause a panic. in my opinion its nothing more than price gouging. units are aready running at full capacity just to keep up with current demand. one goes offline the demand cannot be met. hence prices go up. exactly! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 30-aug-05 726 pm diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy here in the uk youre just now catching up to our normal on-base gas station prices both gas and diesel. gas on the economy is close to $7.00/gallon now. yick. not really. if i am not mistaken the fuel there is artificially inflated due to taxation to help curb excessive driving and poultion actually much of that taxation is used to fund their national health system. .
From : tbone
how much oil do you believe are in the reserves anyways 654 million barrels. since the usa uses 19.5 million barrels a day for everything the small amount released from the strategic reserves just might drop the price at the pump a half cent per gallon or so. there are hundreds of ships still on the high seas loaded with crude that havent even reached port yet but their cargo continues to gain in value because of market speculation. and where exactly are these tankers going to unload and how is that going to help the midwest -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net says... bdk wrote bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net says... mwarren wrote 2001 1500 5.2l not mine but curious if youre burning premium fuel all the time anyway would it be beneficial to install a chip or other modification designed for premium fuel i dont know that much about perf chips but from my understanding they are designed to get the most out of premium fuel... but will it on an 01. any advice appreciated.. it seems that opinions on these things vary widely. matt why are you burning premium all the time now i would imagine to keep the normally pinging 318 or 360 from sounding like its got a bag of ball bearings in it. bdk well i run mid grade in mine but only because i used a hypertech programmer. prior to that i used the cheap stuff without a problem. every 318 or 360 i ave ever owned 3 360s or driven over a dozen pinged a little or in the case of the 2000s and 2001s a lot. i didnt buy a 2000 ram and that was one of the main reason. bdk 2003 hemi ram.. .
From : tbone
roy wrote also was part backhoe would dig a whole ya could loose a vw in. i dont know how he managed the size of the hole given he was such a runt. ever notice how you can never find all that dirt to fill the hole back in yup. roy .
From : jerry
i think he was reincarnated as t-bone. well if he was it was an improvement if you can believe that.......... .
From : nosey
on 30 aug 2005 062646 -0700 craig@metronet.com wrote like i said ... its your $$$. so if you want to trade its your business but i dont see how that helped your situation since the ford dealership is perfectly capable of the same b.s. ssdd same shit different dealer. and your dodge was likely assembled in mexico. the engine was made in the good ole usa. thanks for the contribution. craig c. my dodge was made in canada. beekeep .
From : tbone
somehow i just dont believe that a few days of interrupted service will suddenly cause gas supplies to dwindle so low as to cause a panic. in my opinion its nothing more than price gouging. well said. denny .
From : tbone
diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy i didnt pay any attention to the stinky prices but gas went from $2.54 to $2.69 today. id guess our diesel is about the same as yours. just try to get me to believe somebody aint making big bucks this summer. denny .
From : jmc
lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy .
From : rm
were heading off on a trip next week. im going to see how the truck pulls and then make a decision. we are definitely going to move up to a larger 5th wheel. but we will likely wait now until spring. thanks for all your help. its really opened my eyes. and i sure as blazes know what questions to ask next time we buy a truck. by the way my last name is lawrence too. dennis tom i am not going to drag this out any further. believe me its a lot better than some of the other discussions going on here. at least this one pertains to a dodge truck came from chrysler canada as a response to another enquiry i sent them. theve got to be on something. oh... ok. corporate desk jockeys. no wonder theyre confused ah well... have you decided what youre going to do to the engine be mindful of your transmission - its an early re model which were the most susceptible to failure primarily in the overdrive section when turning up the power. .
From : geekboy
looks interesting who will be the guinea pig i want one. on mon 29 aug 2005 074644 gmt nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote what is the procedure for removing just the top piece you mean the piece thats cracked you cant - the entire instrument panel is molded as a single piece. youd have to remove the entire panel a fairly involved job - get a factory service manual before attempting and replace it. the top of the dash is called a top cover i know because i just paid $334.92 for it! thats just the part not the labor! i did the work myself i wouldnt recommend this to a novice! it took me about 7 hours. the dash cover screws are facing the windshield the only way to reach them is too removed the dash completely period! chilton book is ok but doesnt go in great detail just shows the basics. you will end up removing everything from front of the dash and droping the steering wheel column. hope this helps. wink has anyone tried this one its less than $120. my 99 dash is cracked in 3 different places. i want to fix it but i dont want to remove the whole dash out to do it. http//tinyurl.com/cc3p6 as another owner of a 99 ram with cracked dash id be interested in this if it glues on or something to stop that #*!&$! rattle of the cracked dash and maybe suspend the cracks from spreading more.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : geekboy
somehow i just dont believe that a few days of interrupted service will suddenly cause gas supplies to dwindle so low as to cause a panic. in my opinion its nothing more than price gouging. units are aready running at full capacity just to keep up with current demand. one goes offline the demand cannot be met. hence prices go up. lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy .
From : j
lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - that might be true if... it was true. here we go again. supply is fine and demand is steady according to all reports ive read. lol unless those reports were written today they really dont mean shit. if the supply is fine as you say why would the president be considering opening some of the national oil reserve this years surge is being driven by the futures market not the consumer market. if the price was purely based on people in the futures market speculating to drive the price up the possibility of the president opening up the reserves would cause the price to plummet and that didnt happen. perhaps you missed that hurricane yesterday and the damage it caused to some major supply lines. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
im trying to get self prepared for a power steering pump replacement on a 1999 dodge grand caravan v6 3.0l. heres my recommendation. drain all power steering fluid from the pump clean off the bottom of the pump as best you can with laquer thinner or some other solvent that doesent leave a residue. fashion a metal plate out of an old tin can. obtain some long wire ties from the hardware store these are sold for holding flexible ventilation tubing to vents. liberally apply jb weld to the bottom of the pump. press the plate to the jb weld. use the ties to secure the plate. once it hardens refill the pump and flush the system with clean ps fluid. ie put the return line in a bucket and run the car while pouring new fluid in the system and having an assistant turn the wheels right and left you have a very good chance that this repair will hold and if it does then you probably wont need to go through the hassle of r&r the pump. also its likely the pump rotted from inside out you probably got water in the ps fluid and its only a matter of time before the entire rack itself rots and starts leaking. ted .
From : tbone
disabling the switch in my case disconnecting it from the truck means od cannot be switched off. pcm automatically assumes the truck will be operated in od capable mode. thus a broken switch would likely be lack of od lock out. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. hi 1992 5.2l d150. was just wondering if anyone had any info about the od off/on switch on the automatic tranny. i recently lost o/d on my still fantastic running truck and was wondering about that switch on the dash. have you checked fuse #2 in the fuse panel below the steering column .
From : roy
mac davis mac.davis@splinters.comcast.net wrote on mon 29 aug 2005 231444 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on mon 29 aug 2005 002201 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote i just poked ny nose into a ff-fff-ff i cant bring myself to type it group and found somebody here got rid of their rusted ole dodge and bought a power stroked f-word. the shock..... the pain..... next hell be trading in the deere equipment for case-ih. denny and whats wrong with ca$e beekeep its red!! denny get off his case denny... rofl mac please remove splinters before emailing thats a good one mac i will dodge that comment .
From : miles
1125408406.154698.255390@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com craig@metronet.com craig@metronet.com wrote like i said ... its your $$$. so if you want to trade its your business but i dont see how that helped your situation since the ford dealership is perfectly capable of the same b.s. ssdd same shit different dealer. and your dodge was likely assembled in mexico. the engine was made in the good ole usa. thanks for the contribution. craig c. i still kept the window sticker info assembly point fenton missouri your welcome for what ever contribution. .
From : miles
rm wrote thats why i bought a 5speed civic that gets 33 mpg. i drive my 4x4 360 only on weekends now. ive looked into doing that but then i passed a small vehicle squished like a bug in an accident. not worth the gas savings. i dont get the logic of a econo car while prices are high. i figure all the expense associated with another vehicle initial cost taxs title insurance and up keep. would think that the gettin isnt worth the goin. roy .
From : max dodge
rm wrote thats why i bought a 5speed civic that gets 33 mpg. i drive my 4x4 360 only on weekends now. ive looked into doing that but then i passed a small vehicle squished like a bug in an accident. not worth the gas savings. .
From : max dodge
geekboy wrote units are aready running at full capacity just to keep up with current demand. one goes offline the demand cannot be met. hence prices go up. current us inventories have been steady and not lacking at all. .
From : geekboy
almost makes me wish i had my little honda prelude back. almost. still love my durango though. maybe i could just have my prelude back to drive during the week - thats why i bought a 5speed civic that gets 33 mpg. i drive my 4x4 360 only on weekends now. .
From : fmb
diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy wow!! and i thought $2.59/gal was bad here... mike .
From : geekboy
snip you missed it the price did drop over $2 a barrel on that and despite the hurricane not suddenly disappearing. damage to major supply lines maybe but all the refinery spokespeople are claiming minor damage. -- max you seem to miss something here max. there was over a million barrels per day refining production shut down along the coast prior to the hurricane hitting. that is lost gas/diesel/jet/ production prior to the storm. then the storm hits and does whatever damage to the facilities it does. if it were heavy damage it would take months to repair. if it were minor damage then they only have to do system checks and get rid of the gators and snakes and make it safe to operate again. this could be days of inspection testing and repair if you had full crews and extra contractors. in the days of a regular plant shutdown/turnaround all this workforce worked there butts off and went home after their shift or to the motel. hello the homes are gone. there are no hotels. most of the infrastructure is gone. it is difficult to start a refinery with nobody to run it. lots of companies are helping the communities by bringing in basic needs. without that people wont be able to work. some of you out there think all you have to do is turn a key and a refinery starts. this aint your sweet dodge ram ctd. lol! depending on the particular unit it may take a week to 10 days to come up online and make on-test product. that is when no problems occur during startup. some facilities took most of a month after the last hurricane went through mississippi. i remember my younger days i did a temp job on a mobil oil turnaround. they had to wait a while before crews could start work on it. 2 weeks later they turned the unit back on and after about 10 days it was too hot for anyone to work on it anymore. end of job gasoline shortage you will get your gasoline after the refiners outbid someone else for the tanker load of gas. maybe you ought to feel good that you have a vehicle to put it in. thousands in the south no longer do. -- fmb only one b in fmb cindy slither home .
From : miles
lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - that might be true if... it was true. supply is fine and demand is steady according to all reports ive read. supply of oil is fine. its the production side that is not keeping up with demand. the only way to curb the prices is to build more fuel refineries. this years surge is being driven by the futures market not the consumer market. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. lack of current supply and ever increasing demand - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy .
From : max dodge
suddenly without warning roy exclaimed 30-aug-05 726 pm diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! roy here in the uk youre just now catching up to our normal on-base gas station prices both gas and diesel. gas on the economy is close to $7.00/gallon now. yick. not really. if i am not mistaken the fuel there is artificially inflated due to taxation to help curb excessive driving and poultion that said if prices keep going up when we go back to the us in the spring i can see the dak making a nice lawn ornament. i could plant a vegetable garden in the bed jmc .
From : mike simmons
bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net says... mwarren wrote 2001 1500 5.2l not mine but curious if youre burning premium fuel all the time anyway would it be beneficial to install a chip or other modification designed for premium fuel i dont know that much about perf chips but from my understanding they are designed to get the most out of premium fuel... but will it on an 01. any advice appreciated.. it seems that opinions on these things vary widely. matt why are you burning premium all the time now i would imagine to keep the normally pinging 318 or 360 from sounding like its got a bag of ball bearings in it. bdk .
From : j
snip you missed it the price did drop over $2 a barrel on that and despite the hurricane not suddenly disappearing. damage to major supply lines maybe but all the refinery spokespeople are claiming minor damage. -- max you seem to miss something here max. there was over a million barrels per day refining production shut down along the coast prior to the hurricane hitting. that is lost gas/diesel/jet/ production prior to the storm. then the storm hits and does whatever damage to the facilities it does. if it were heavy damage it would take months to repair. if it were minor damage then they only have to do system checks and get rid of the gators and snakes and make it safe to operate again. this could be days of inspection testing and repair if you had full crews and extra contractors. in the days of a regular plant shutdown/turnaround all this workforce worked there butts off and went home after their shift or to the motel. hello the homes are gone. there are no hotels. most of the infrastructure is gone. it is difficult to start a refinery with nobody to run it. lots of companies are helping the communities by bringing in basic needs. without that people wont be able to work. some of you out there think all you have to do is turn a key and a refinery starts. this aint your sweet dodge ram ctd. lol! depending on the particular unit it may take a week to 10 days to come up online and make on-test product. that is when no problems occur during startup. some facilities took most of a month after the last hurricane went through mississippi. gasoline shortage you will get your gasoline after the refiners outbid someone else for the tanker load of gas. maybe you ought to feel good that you have a vehicle to put it in. thousands in the south no longer do. -- fmb only one b in fmb cindy slither home .
From : big al
tom i am not going to drag this out any further. believe me its a lot better than some of the other discussions going on here. at least this one pertains to a dodge truck came from chrysler canada as a response to another enquiry i sent them. theve got to be on something. oh... ok. corporate desk jockeys. no wonder theyre confused ah well... have you decided what youre going to do to the engine be mindful of your transmission - its an early re model which were the most susceptible to failure primarily in the overdrive section when turning up the power. .
From : max dodge
diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! $2.579 here same as it was last week actually it came down from $2.629 a week ago. i expect it to be up tomorrow but hey - what can you do its $2.79 at the independents and $2.89 at the big stations in tucson. 8/30/05 just put $65 in my truck al .
From : max dodge
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From : tom lawrence
on the 96 model removing the pump is easy....getting it out of the vehicle is not. id expect the 99 to be similar. in a nutshell the pump has to come out the tunnel where the exhaust pipe runs to the manifold....so the exhaust has to be taken loose and dropped out of the way. remember to disconnet the harness to the o2 sensor first. ive never had any luck removing and reusing the pulley even with the proper tool. go to the dealer and buy a new pulley....theyre about 25 bucks. most rebuilt pumps will come with an installation tool. changing the hoses without removing the rack is next to impossible so dont unless you have to. like many of these jobs the first one is a pita the next one goes much faster. .
From : denny
diesel jumped 20 cents to 2.79 from sunday night to monday morning. unfuckingbelievable! $2.579 here same as it was last week actually it came down from $2.629 a week ago. i expect it to be up tomorrow but hey - what can you do .