Fan for intake on carbed 87 Dakota?
From : jack
Q: on mon 14 jun 2004 jack wrote does anyone have an opinion on whether i can expect any improvement in power or gas mileage from an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds air into the air filter housing this is a carbed engine jack *please*. youve been asking such good and sound questions...this clinker sounds like youve been getting too many whiffs of gasoline as you work on your carburetor. no you wont get any improvement in anything from any such electric fan. -stern .
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From : daniel j stern
anyone have any ideas on how i can raise the frt end of my 00 dakota qc 2wd about 1 1/2-2 ive seen these spacer things in jc whitney and also these rubber boots that go on the end of the coil springs. just want to raise the frt to level it out with the rear. thanks. .
From : daniel j stern
my driver side blinker is sticking. when i activate it it stayes solid. what i scauseing this thanks for your help! .
From : mark w s o
dan if i remember right i do believe that there was a device that had a big weighted flywheel on it and once you spun it it would spin for a day under its own power hmm henry ford museum ....but if you fitted it to a car you would probably notice a gyroscopic effect of some kind! .
From : denny
my driver side blinker is sticking. when i activate it it stayes solid. what i scauseing this thanks for your help! normally a burned out bulb on that side.. .
From : jazzman
on tue 15 jun 2004 robert hancock wrote such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist but i believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a ridiculously high-speed fan motor.. ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle. you sure i thought it used a long-assed extension cord. g denny .
From : bob
does anyone have an opinion on whether i can expect any improvement in power or gas mileage from an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds air into the air filter housing this is a carbed engine jack a bit of google searching found this link. http//www.turbodyne.com/ ken .
From : napalm heart
and just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan move ill give you a little hint..... not nearly enough. bob i recently read of an actual install of a leaf blower/supercharger. the guy claimed it worked-- somewhat. .
From : chas hurst
i usually replace them at 50k. change it out for a new one and keep the old one under the seat as an emergency spare. cheap insurance. .
From : cbhvac same as it was com
since the whole object of an internal combustion engine is to draw a fuel-air mixture into the cylinders it seems reasonable that anything that helps move air into the system would bring some benefit especially at higher rpms. iow air is being pulled in by the descending cylinder. why not help by giving it a push it would be helpful if you could include some reasons why with your pronoucements. perhaps the fan could be vaccuum controlled so that it only kicked in when vacuum was below a certain level or by a switch in the cab that would allow driver control. there is not a fan made that will move enough air at a high enough velocity to work.. unless you call that fan a supercharger or a turbocharger.. but an electric fan lol..no..wont work. hell...i got to thinking about this...and not even the squirrel cages on these 50 ton rtu units can do what a supercharger can... daniel j. stern wrote on mon 14 jun 2004 jack wrote does anyone have an opinion on whether i can expect any improvement in power or gas mileage from an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds air into the air filter housing this is a carbed engine jack *please*. youve been asking such good and sound questions...this clinker sounds like youve been getting too many whiffs of gasoline as you work on your carburetor. no you wont get any improvement in anything from any such electric fan. -stern .
From : daniel j stern
on wed 16 jun 2004 mic canic wrote dan if i remember right i do believe that there was a device that had a big weighted flywheel on it and once you spun it it would spin for a day under its own power a flywheel is not a perpetual-motion machine and does not spin under its own power because it doesnt generate any power. -stern .
From : jack
on mon 14 jun 2004 130351 -0700 jack zzz@xxx.net wrote does anyone have an opinion on whether i can expect any improvement in power or gas mileage from an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds air into the air filter housing this is a carbed engine jack i doubt seriously if there is a 12v electric fan manufactured that will fit into that air duct and supply the air volume that you would need. instead of helping it would obstruct the air flow. read the k&n filter threads about what awful things happen if you obstruct the air flow .... if the fan existed it would draw so many amps that it would put an additional load on your alternator that would eat up any boost that you are thinking about. if you did manage to pressurize that duct it would blow air backwards through the carburetor jets and blow the fuel out on to the top of the engine and probably catch on fire and ..... it wont work... you can probably buy one from j. c. whitney though! so many garys ..so.. clyde .
From : clyde
on mon 14 jun 2004 143452 gmt msyjsy abc@123.com wrote you dont want just anybody putting their fingers in your rear-end. you said that correctly!! so many garys ..so.. clyde .
From : jack
engine and probably catch on fire and ..... it wont work... you can probably buy one from j. c. whitney though! so many garys ..so.. clyde .
From : daniel j stern
on mon 14 jun 2004 jack wrote since the whole object of an internal combustion engine is to draw a fuel-air mixture into the cylinders it seems reasonable that anything that helps move air into the system would bring some benefit especially at higher rpms. such devices are called superchargers and theyre considerably more forceful than an electric fan chunked into the air snorkel. an electric fan chunked into the air snorkel will not only severely restrict intake air at high rpms but it will also sap off more engine power via the alternator than it will provide due to any supercharging effect. tanstaafl there aint no such thing as a free lunch. -stern .
From : nate nagel
sounds like youre describing a supercharger which will give you some performance improvement but youre going to need something larger than a small electric fan to get any noticeable gain. even the big centrifugal paxtons max out at maybe 7-10 psi nate jack wrote since the whole object of an internal combustion engine is to draw a fuel-air mixture into the cylinders it seems reasonable that anything that helps move air into the system would bring some benefit especially at higher rpms. iow air is being pulled in by the descending cylinder. why not help by giving it a push it would be helpful if you could include some reasons why with your pronoucements. perhaps the fan could be vaccuum controlled so that it only kicked in when vacuum was below a certain level or by a switch in the cab that would allow driver control. daniel j. stern wrote on mon 14 jun 2004 jack wrote does anyone have an opinion on whether i can expect any improvement in power or gas mileage from an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds air into the air filter housing this is a carbed engine jack *please*. youve been asking such good and sound questions...this clinker sounds like youve been getting too many whiffs of gasoline as you work on your carburetor. no you wont get any improvement in anything from any such electric fan. -stern -- go dry to reply. http//www.toad.net/njnagel .
From : robert hancock
such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist but i believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a ridiculously high-speed fan motor.. -- robert hancock saskatoon sk canada to email remove nospam from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca home page http//www.roberthancock.com/ since the whole object of an internal combustion engine is to draw a fuel-air mixture into the cylinders it seems reasonable that anything that helps move air into the system would bring some benefit especially at higher rpms. iow air is being pulled in by the descending cylinder. why not help by giving it a push it would be helpful if you could include some reasons why with your pronoucements. perhaps the fan could be vaccuum controlled so that it only kicked in when vacuum was below a certain level or by a switch in the cab that would allow driver control. daniel j. stern wrote on mon 14 jun 2004 jack wrote does anyone have an opinion on whether i can expect any improvement in power or gas mileage from an electric fan placed inside the flexible plastic duct that feeds air into the air filter housing this is a carbed engine jack *please*. youve been asking such good and sound questions...this clinker sounds like youve been getting too many whiffs of gasoline as you work on your carburetor. no you wont get any improvement in anything from any such electric fan. -stern .
From : thomas tornblom
hey jerry nice to see you around. hey thanks for the thought but not lonely at all. world isnt so little either jerry. just look around. the homeys put their little crack bitch thepussy on on the streets again i see politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : redneck tookover hell
you should be able to pull it no problem. just remind her that she is towing a trailer. longer braking slower accelleration etc... hey mac this guy sounds like the saleman you were telling me about when you were buying your travel trailer yep that 4.7 will pull that no problem trust me sir !!!!!!!!!!! lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!! politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : bill putney
....and it is possible that the extra power supplied by forcing a higher air/fuel charge density will be more than the extra electrical load. a turbocharger does the same thing by stealing power off of the exhaust - but the amount it steals is less than that gained but its not free - it costs in more fuel being crammed in - again - no perpetual motion. even more fuel costs come into play too due to the inefficiency losses of the alternator. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with x -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .
From : nosey
bill putney wrote daniel j. stern wrote on tue 15 jun 2004 robert hancock wrote such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist but i believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a ridiculously high-speed fan motor.. ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle. there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine. however they can provide bursts of power from the energy stored in the battery. then that energy loss in the battery is made up over a period of time later by the alternator with some lower increased load on the alternator during the burst. so in theory they can provide bursts of power greater than without them but not sustained hence dans perpetual motion comment. this does not mean i buy into this fan blower thing as a useful device. do you think it could be a useful device with the new 42 volt electrical systems .
From : bruce chang
on tue 15 jun 2004 142822 -0400 chas hurst !hurst1@comcast.not wrote || || || || and just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan ||move || ill give you a little hint..... not nearly enough. || bob || ||i recently read of an actual install of a leaf blower/supercharger. the guy ||claimed it worked-- somewhat. but the driveway stayed clean! texas parts guy .
From : rex b
on tue 15 jun 2004 031400 gmt jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote sigh i here this load of crap about any subject. some guy writes in he has been running synthetic oil for 150000 miles without an oil change. so therefore the conclusion is that oil changes are pointless. good grief. good use of foul language to make yourself more credible in your ability to debate and substantiate your claims. maybe when you grow up your mommy will allow you to use big words too. not if his mommy raises him correctly. jerry why jerry will he be arrested if he doesnt use words correctly just because you dont like a word like fuck cunt shit piss or douchebag does not mean it bothers everybody. they are just words. .
From : chas hurst
and just how many cubic feet of air per minute does your proposed fan move ill give you a little hint..... not nearly enough. bob i recently read of an actual install of a leaf blower/supercharger. the guy claimed it worked-- somewhat. if i read the same article the leaf blower was powered by 110v from a wall socket via an extension cord. thats the one. i remember there was a hitch to it. wonder how a gas engine powered leaf blower would work .
From : bruce chang
dan if i remember right i do believe that there was a device that had a big weighted flywheel on it and once you spun it it would spin for a day under its own power hmm henry ford museum thats still not a perpetual motion machine thats just a flywheel. it stops spinning after a day.. if it kept spinning forever then you got something there. .
From : redneck tookover hell
it stops spinning after a day.. if it kept spinning forever then you got something there. use to be a couple trolls in here who came damn close to perpetual spinning politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : mic canic
dan if i remember right i do believe that there was a device that had a big weighted flywheel on it and once you spun it it would spin for a day under its own power hmm henry ford museum daniel j. stern wrote on tue 15 jun 2004 robert hancock wrote such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist but i believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a ridiculously high-speed fan motor.. ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle. there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine. .
From : clyde
on wed 16 jun 2004 153128 -0400 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote do you think it could be a useful device with the new 42 volt electrical systems - so many garys ..so.. clyde .
From : bill putney
daniel j. stern wrote on tue 15 jun 2004 robert hancock wrote such a device would be an electric supercharger - these do exist but i believe they can only produce a few pounds of boost with a ridiculously high-speed fan motor.. ...powered by the alternator on the vehicle. there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine. however they can provide bursts of power from the energy stored in the battery. then that energy loss in the battery is made up over a period of time later by the alternator with some lower increased load on the alternator during the burst. so in theory they can provide bursts of power greater than without them but not sustained hence dans perpetual motion comment. this does not mean i buy into this fan blower thing as a useful device. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with x -----= posted via feeds.com uncensored usenet =----- http//www.feeds.com - the #1 group service in the world! -----== over 100000 groups - 19 different servers! =----- .
From : redneck tookover hell
a turbocharger does the same thing by stealing power off of the exhaus a turbocharger steals power off the exhaust wow!!!!!!!!!! - but the amount it steals is less than that gained but its not free - double wow!!!!!!!!!! it costs in more fuel being crammed in - triple wow!!!!!!!!!!! i half way thought this guy actually knew something when he posted initially now turbochargers stealing power from the exhaust whats next ufos stealing power from high voltage lines politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .