Election Results

From : roy

Q: on wed 8 nov 2006 095047 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote wow!! it would seem that a pretty strong message was sent nationally. here in ma we have a d for gov. first time in 16 years. also a black man who did some impressive things during the campaign. he is a strong advocate of stem cell research. so that bodes well. hopefully this country gets turned around. r i agree with you as far as a strong message being sent. i am surprised at the volume! lets hope the politicos listen. .

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From : miles

roy wrote i cant believe you two are still at it!! gbmfg hes a toy!! predictable as all hell and extremely humorous much of the time. its all meaningless entertainment. what his reply to this itll be funny as all hell. .

From : roy

honestly that is a lot of work. being that i used to do the car audio installation stuff for a living for many years i learned to do it fast and clean. to clarify on my 1st post. place the antenna on the roof just above the weather seal centered on the rear view mirror wire running down the windshield. with your finger or a small flat head pull back the seal tuck the wire down and run it across the to and down the drivers side. at this point you will be able to run the wire around into the cab through the door tucking it under the door seal. when you run the wire under the door seal leave a hair of slack in it and make sure you fold the wire over the metal channel before you put the seal back in place. dont wire this will not damage the wire or cause a problem down the road. from there how you run it is up to you. i had a dakota and ran out two wires for satellite radio and navigation ran them behind the dash up along the column along the windshield into thehead liner and then pulled out the rear mount brake light and ran them out there.. its a nice neat run and all i did was place a dab of silicone where the wire met the body to prevent drips from going behind the light... just made the jump to satellite radio does any know the best way to mount antenna on a dakota or should i leave to the pros tyrone .

From : forester yahoo com

i had a dakota and ran out two wires for satellite radio and navigation ran them behind the dash up along the column along the windshield into thehead liner and then pulled out the rear mount brake light and ran them out there.. its a nice neat run and all i did was place a dab of silicone where the wire met the body to prevent drips from going behind the light... just made the jump to satellite radio does any know the best way to mount antenna on a dakota or should i leave to the pros tyrone .

From : roy

i have an aluminum truck tool box in my truck bed and i was wondering if it is ok to store a 1 gallon plastic blitz gas can in it. the box isnt completely air tight and there should be enough ventalation but i was wondering if there was some danger of explosion due to heat. has anybody else stored gas in their truck box more importantly are they still alive raul .

From : tbone

it would seem that our do nothing mia gov is serious about running for president. he has to have been the most ineffective person we have had in that position. roy .

From : tbone

tbone wrote that is because he is still a democrat but the fact remains the same that even though he is a democrat and loyal to his party he will still vote against the party line if he feels it is important he stated he would caucus with the democrats. yes he did go against his party. he has been a strong supporter of the iraq war. so why are you defending him lol he is actually not a strong supporter. he simply understands that we are stuck there until we can come up with a valid exit plan and setting a time limit without one is a stupid idea. i agree with that completely. we were sent their by a retard and it will take a genus to get us out of there intact. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote i have never said i was innocent but i am a sinner that has been forgiven. you are still sinning. it hasnt stopped. denying that makes you blind and arrogant. .

From : roy

on fri 10 nov 2006 134354 gmt bill allemann custom4173@sbcglobal.netinvalid wrote just curious yeah it is. as well as the just about anything else that comes to mind ng. just a one stop shopping ng. pretty convenient and a pretty decent place most of the time. that sums it up prudy good.... and it didnt even mention nothing about rabbits.... denny .

From : roy

i got a short letter today from one of my new customers along with her check for more bees. it read thanks so much for just being available. i just want to scream i can walk again!!! im not getting rich selling bees but i do o.k. i find the letters are worth more the the money. okay hers your letter. now send me some money.vbg r beekeep .

From : Annonymous

i got a short letter today from one of my new customers along with her check for more bees. it read thanks so much for just being available. i just want to scream i can walk again!!! im not getting rich selling bees but i do o.k. i find the letters are worth more the the money. beekeep .

From : miles

hey tbone... marxism communism socialism... rename it as often as you like it has never worked...and never will. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote lieberman ran as an independant because the idiots in the democratic party ran someone else and did it because he did vote as an individual so yes miles he is an excelent example. he stated publicly that he will not be voting in congress as an individual independent. nice try. .

From : tbone

is there any way to eliminate this . by computer or whatever it doesnt seem to save much fuel at all .

From : tbone

suddenly without warning dingy101 exclaimed 20-nov-06 1016 am 2000 ram 1500 5.9 auto headers k&n filter system computer chip mod i have headers that come into one cat then split out into dual flowmasters what needs to be done to the front or rear o2 sensor if the cat were removed gary how did you get a feline stuck in your o2 sensor badump - bum. jmc .

From : tbone

john kunkel wrote generally its easier to prove something isnt rather than something is so deriving a proof that there isnt a god should be an easier task to accomplish. your pedantic utterings are the epitome of verbal masturbation. nice big words apparently in search of a point to be made. smh .

From : tbone

amsoil1230 wrote i have a 2001 dodge diesel 2500 and thinking about installing the kn intake but have not seen the installed kn on the dodge diesel. if you have done the install please provide your feedback and pictures if available. email is futchd@adelphia.net. thanks for the ctd i would not recommend the k&n filter they flow good air flow but they allow to much dirt to pass through to the turbo. i run the afe 2 stage intake system will be changing the afe oil air filter to the new dry amsoil induction air filter. who makes the filter for amsoil .

From : miles

the point here is that there isnt anything to read and yet he expects to sell an engine upstatre ny is a big place shipping an 800 lb engine is costly; no price mentioned yet hell sell to the best offer.... but whats it worth i still say he isnt very serious about selling it and that was the point. but i guess i shouldnt actually expect anyone to have enough intellect to pick up on that detail after having mentioned it repeatedly. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author you guys dont actually expect max to read a post before he replies *wink* terrific ill just randomly select a zip code for shipping purposes. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author max dodge wrote ok so next we need a location and perhaps a starting bid and shipping snip --------------------------------------------------- the title of the message says hes in upstate new york. mark .

From : miles

you guys dont actually expect max to read a post before he replies *wink* terrific ill just randomly select a zip code for shipping purposes. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author max dodge wrote ok so next we need a location and perhaps a starting bid and shipping snip --------------------------------------------------- the title of the message says hes in upstate new york. mark .

From : miles

check the pickup coil distributor larman hghg wrote it starts smooth after 10 or 15 minutes it srarts to back fire and eventualy stops alltogether. i know you already changed the valve but it still sounds to me like an egr problem. check all the hardware hoses and tubes on and around the egr system again. check /all/ the vacuum hoses under the hood too. -- ken .

From : miles

the front passenger side abs reluctor ring is broken on my 1996 ram 1500 4x4. i have not been able to locate an aftermarket replacement. someone suggested that the reluctor ring is not a replacement item. inside the axle shaft needs to be replaced. has anyone had to do this before any ideas suggestions sources thanks. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote they were due to the recent amnesty and crackdown on tax cheaters. bull. thats not sustainable for 6 years. tax receipts have skyrocketed because of a higher cash flow throughout the economy. funny how they made the then. a very short lived liberal commentary that you picked up on. it has not been substantiated. .

From : max dodge

marsh monster wrote ====== ====== edited for the facts only the facts and nutn but the facts the truck is a 92 power ram 150 4x4 318 auto. the speedometer works most of the time but sometimes it wont work at all. however the odometer works and i have found out when the speedometer dont work i can push the reset and it will work. whenever it works it is smooth no bouncing around or anything. any suggestions would be welcome. brian ======== ======== if........ all the above is factual......... everytime it dont woik....... pushid the button. or....... take the speedo head apart and diagnose the situation. please dont ask how. or why. or where to start. or if im sure. or how i know. or if im a technician. or where to git a good used one. or how much you should spend on one. or if a new one would be better. or..... fk it......... dont ask anything........ jest pushid duh button..... i mean......... seriously............... is yer fkn fanger broke or what/ marshmonster takes a hit off his bong....sips his crown royal... i make me laugh i know it aint a big deal but i would like to know whats causing it to quit at times. .

From : miles

done medium so the pink is out of the meat. tiny sprinkle of salt and some a- 1 steak sauce. served with buttered toast and mashed potatos. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. denny wrote moral of the story cats do make good targets!! i love cats. theyre delicious. especially flame-broiled. craig c. .

From : miles

my dakota is making some sort of howling noise and i cant figure out what it is. ive checked all of the nessesary fluids under the hood and feel it may be coming from under neath yet i checked the u joints and they are fine. it may me the rear end needs new gear oil. i would like a second opinion. if anyone know what it possibly could be please help me. .

From : miles

i have a 2001 dodge ctd 2500 and a friend and his son also have similar vehicles different years but 24 valve. i have been adding about 5% biodiesel to my low sulfur fuel for lubricity. my friends son said he adds atf for lubricity. seems like atf is much more expensive but how much do you need also is there a value in adding a small amount of gasoline during winter to prevent gelling i saw a post where a fellow put in about 1.5 gal of gas before realizing his mistake then filled up with diesel. responders said not a big deal they do that all the time. comments welcome! thanks charles well charles i dont have a saab but i do have an 03 ctd in which i use stanadyne performance additive. it takes care of jelling and lubricity issues. i would rather use a known/tested additive in my cummins. i paid a lot for it and want it to stay around for awhile. fmb north mexico .

From : miles

tbone wrote lol no they just want to balance the budget without screwing the majority of americans something the reps have long forgotten how to do. middle class tax rates were considerably higher under clinton than they are now. besides raising rates will not automatically result in higher revenues but you seem to not understand that concept. lol and what exactly is your definition of conservative. sorry miles he is very much a full blown conservative. bush a conservative rofl!!! oh now thats funny. that is because they are party members. if you want someone to act as an individual elect an independant but people like you would never do that. you mean like lieberman oh wait he said hed caucus with the democrats. so much for being independent. .

From : max dodge

the 1500 is a bit underdesigned when it comes to the drive train as they use the same components as the dakota. you cant even get the standard shift with the 260 as the nv3500 is not up to the added torque. i guess that they think of it as just a big car. you realize that the 1500 is a half ton rated probably at best around 7000 lbs gross trailer rating. while the engine hemi for example in a lot of half tons are the same engine found in the gas versions of the 3/4 and 1 tons applications the suspension drivetrain and brakes are designed as such 1/2 ton. so i would disagree that the half tons are under designed but would say instead they are over abused. im guilty too thats why i quit buying half ton trucks. if that were the case dude then why wasnt the 5 speed offered with the 360 the simple fact is that the 5 speed offered and transfer case for that matter is the same one used in the dakota and that transmission is not capable of dealing with the torque of the 360 in that application which to me is simple sub-standard. and then when you add up all of the failures with the 9 1/4 in rear again mostly in the 1500 series..... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving here again tbone your talking about an engine capable of handling the job of a 1 ton its was offered in the br/be 1 tons not exactly sure if it was ever offered in the dr but i think it was in a half ton truck then your complaining that a half ton trans and transfer case isnt strong enough for it....well!!! sure they arent. you have to use the stuff rated for that power certainly. but does that mean the nv3500 sub standard id think not. you see you have to have reasonable expectations of the equipment. for example i wouldnt ask a nissan p/u to pull 40 tons of freight cross country. but that being said. ill spot you this they could have used a stronger trans and offered a standard shift with the 360 in a half ton. and ok so the bearings in the 9 1/4 corp. axle wasnt the best. im sure if you could get some corporate executive at chrysler to admit the truth it was a extremely bad decision to use that particular vendor. other than that i really didnt see any other problems with the axle. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote that is because he is still a democrat but the fact remains the same that even though he is a democrat and loyal to his party he will still vote against the party line if he feels it is important he stated he would caucus with the democrats. yes he did go against his party. he has been a strong supporter of the iraq war. so why are you defending him .

From : tbone

front or rear axle while the axle should bolt right up the pinion will be a different size and require a modification to the drive shaft. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i was wondering if i could use axle from 2500 or 3500 dodge ram 4x4 to put on my 1500 dodge ram. will the mounting fit or i will have to do some welding to make adjustment. i honestly dont see why not it work that way. give me ur opinion about that .

From : miles

hah..that little six-banger is nothing but a 318 with 2 cylinders lobbed off..kinda explains the poor mileage. maybe a k & n filter and some synthetic oil would help..seemed to help my old tired 318 gain 1-2 mpg on the highway. .

From : max dodge

just what we need a new net nanny. now you oops see way below trim technique use this after typing your reply in the email window. this works both with web browsers and most email clients. 1 use down arrow to move cursor to a spot in the email below the text which is necessary to the email. 2 press and hold shift key. 3 press arrow down key to highlight text below the relevant message. 4 release arrow down key. 5 touch delete key and highlighted text should disappear. for folks who like using a mouse scroll down. put the cursor in the text below the relevant message. hold left mouse key down and slide cursor down. this will highlight text which can then be deleted using the delete button. as an alternative put the indicator below the useful text. pres cntrl + shift + end to highlight the trailing text and then touch delete. can bitch cause i top post at times as well. trim this! didnt get your nap this afternoon bg denny .

From : miles

the inside of the intake was a huge mess.. i cleaned it a lot... not perfect but its 95% cleaner than it was. earl on mon 20 nov 2006 135045 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote never in a million years would i have considered this to be the reason my engine was knocking and using excessive oil.. was the intake nice and oily inside did you clean it out you should follow up with a couple applications of mopar combustion chamber cleaner to get rid of the oil deposits in the combustion chambers. then once thats done put in a new set of plugs the cc cleaning process tends to foul the plugs. .

From : tbone

hi i got a 94 pickup with the v6 auto...... i am getting like 13-16mpg is there any cure it runs smooth idles nice no smoke...... thanks .

From : miles

never in a million years would i have considered this to be the reason my engine was knocking and using excessive oil.. was the intake nice and oily inside did you clean it out you should follow up with a couple applications of mopar combustion chamber cleaner to get rid of the oil deposits in the combustion chambers. then once thats done put in a new set of plugs the cc cleaning process tends to foul the plugs. .

From : miles

what kind of difference can the use biodiesel make when it comes to changing the world for the better perhaps the biggest impact of the use of biodiesel fuel instead of just plain diesel is on the human health and the environment. one of the biggest differences that biodiesel make is with regards to smog. using biodiesel actually reduces smog. both unburned hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides in diesel fuel account for most of the particulates in air pollution. when you use biodiesel product or homemade biodiesel there is a substantial reduction of unburned hydrocarbons and if you are using a blend that is right for your machine. tests that have been conducted according to epa regulations have shown that the hydrocarbon exhaust emissions that biodiesel are half that of that measured for diesel fuel. can biodiesel make more energy unlike the burning of fossil fuels the burning biodiesel fuels actually gives back more energy to the environment that it takes. lifecycle studies of biodiesel production show that for every unit of fossil energy it takes to manufacture ... http//biodieselaa.blogspot.com/# .

From : miles

tbone wrote it doesnt baffle me miles it is just a load of shit. most of those tax revenue increases came from the tax amnesty that they were also offering and attributing the collections to the current tax years lol!. now youre getting silly! the massive increases in revenues are because of higher spending. tax amnesty that amount is peanuts compared to the increases in revenue. youre off on some wild chase with this one tbone. microsoft for one but you seem to have forgotten the lack of competition and collusion. i dont like microsoft either but they are only one company. your entire views are based on a very very small number of companies. besides microsoft is losing its monopoly in many sectors such as webservers. its not just me miles but i guess the results from this election just went right over your head or perhaps you are just in a world of denile. local or even national economic issues that youre arguing about now are not what voters went to the polls over. many of the dems that won were not far radical left like you. they were moderates. furthermore the swing left is nowheres near what took place in 1994 when people got fed up with the dems. you have a ways to go. now im a radical liberal lol! yes you most certainly are. you do not represent the mainstream liberal or democrat. your whines and concepts are far more radical in nature. ok what about the cashiers you aware of how much grocery store cashiers typically earn you have no clue do you do you think that they are getting paid much more than that door greeter yes. the cashiers make far more than a door greeter. nice try though. and what difference does it make if it is an entry level job i didnt say that they should get rich on them or buy a big house but if you cant live on what you make why do it at all .

From : tbone

i know but mine is. either way both still use the same axles transfer case and drive shafts and are nowhere near as strong as the ones on the 2500. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving my truck isnt 5 spd. its automatic. .

From : miles

if yall need an idea for ole santa tell him you need a set of gearwrenches. darn near the best idea in hand tools thats come along in years and i havent even broke one yet... by the time they finish with my shoulder ill be retired. aint planning on useing the tools i have i really feeln sorry for sue about now....... gbmfg sorry it was there for the taking... not bad not bad at allvbg unless its to adjust a surf rod and reel.g of course some of you lard asses out there will want heated leather seats..... your just friggin upset cause your fat ass wont fit in a heated leather bucket seat. maybe they will come out with a heated bench seat or sofa size for ya. vbg first hand knowledge coming from a tub-a-lard driving a 2500 diesel to move the lard around to having to go to a low-slung wagon with a high hp motor to haul it. whats the matter getting too difficult to get that fat gut up a step or two the ole truck too top heavy to take corners wow!! you really are lashing out arent ya. must have one hell of a rash on that wide ride. what ya use corn statch by the 55 gal. drum bfg no rash at all just stating fact..... denny .

From : miles

if yall need an idea for ole santa tell him you need a set of gearwrenches. darn near the best idea in hand tools thats come along in years and i havent even broke one yet... by the time they finish with my shoulder ill be retired. aint planning on useing the tools i have unless its to adjust a surf rod and reel.g of course some of you lard asses out there will want heated leather seats..... your just friggin upset cause your fat ass wont fit in a heated leather bucket seat. maybe they will come out with a heated bench seat or sofa size for ya. vbg roy denny .

From : heatwave

couple minutes from now im going on the maiden voyage down to the gas station. i think the problem was rotted out fuel line. replaced 10 feet or so of 3/8 inch rust that was pretending to be fuel line. now the van runs continuous instead of one second at a time. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. 87 dodge van. 318 engine. 145k miles. four barrel carb. slows and only goes about 20 mph. with gentle throttle. flooring it causes it to die completely. after doing this for awhile slows and dies. restarts after a couple minutes restarts easier with a squirt of ether. then drives for another hundred feet or so. problem is intermittent. two weeks ago had the problem. so i added drygas and filled the tank. it was fine for about two weeks. did it again yesterday had to call a tow truck to get me home. today i checked the fuel delivery put a paper napkin over the high side line coming off the fuel pump. run the startter and the paper napkin soaked right through with gasoline. changed the fuel filter its starting to rain. its good and wet out there. ive heard an assortment of theories. but there are some really good mopar experts on this group. what comes to mind in terms of problems and repairs -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. .

From : tbone

i am having a low oil pressure problem with my truckfirst off i am an ase tech so i know what i am doingso anyways it has low oil pressure at idle after engine is warmso i went to change the oil pumpit allready had an aftermarket high volume oil pump in itthe same one that i boughtbut i put the new one in anywaysstill low oil pressureso i change the sending unitwitch was looked ame low oil pressuere problemand also i have what sounds like a slight lifter noise above 3k rpmlike the lifters arent pumping all the way upso i pull off the valve covers and check all the push rodsall are clean and i perfect shapethen finnaly the valve clatter has gotten a little worse and now i have a cylinder 1 misfire codeso now im almost sure it is the lifters not pumping upbut what i dont understand is why is there low oil pressure at idle but when above 1k rpm it has 100psi with the high volume pumpand no its not bearing clearnce all bearings are in perfect shape and are newi dont understand what to do here i was going to change all the lifters but i dont know if that will solve my low oil pressure problem or the valve clatterand no its not spark knockany help please thanks -daniel .

From : tbone

thought this was pretty good. im sure you can think of some folks that would like it. roy a different christmas poem the embers glowed softly and in their dim light i gazed round the room and i cherished the sight. my wife was asleep her head on my chest my daughter beside me angelic in rest. outside the snow fell a blanket of white transforming the yard to a winter delight. the sparkling lights in the tree i believe completed the magic that was christmas eve. my eyelids were heavy my breathing was deep secure and surrounded by love i would sleep. in perfect contentment or so it would seem so i slumbered perhaps i started to dream. the sound wasnt loud and it wasnt too near but i opened my eyes when it tickled my ear. perhaps just a cough i didnt quite know then the sure sound of footsteps outside in the snow. my soul gave a tremble i struggled to hear and i crept to the door just to see who was near. standing out in the cold and the dark of the night a lone figure stood his face weary and tight. a soldier i puzzled some twenty years old perhaps a marine huddled here in the cold. alone in the dark he looked up and smiled standing watch over me and my wife and my child. what are you doing i asked without fear come in this moment its freezing out here! put down your pack brush the snow from your sleeve you should be at home on a cold christmas eve! for barely a moment i saw his eyes shift away from the cold and the snow blown in drifts. to the window that danced with a warm fires light then he sighed and he said its really all right im out here by choice. im here every night. its my duty to stand at the front of the line that separates you from the darkest of times. no one had to ask or beg or implore me im proud to stand here like my fathers before me. my gramps died at pearl on a day in december then he sighed thats a christmas gram always remembers. my dad stood his watch in the jungles of nam and now it is my turn and so here i am. ive not seen my own son in more than a while but my wife sends me pictures hes sure got her smile. then he bent and he carefully pulled from his bag the red white and blue...an american flag. i can live through the cold and the being alone away from my family my house and my home. i can stand at my post through the rain and the sleet i can sleep in a foxhole with little to eat. i can carry the weight of killing another or lay down my life with my sister and brother.. who stand at the front against any and all to ensure for all time that this flag will not fall. so go back inside he said harbor no fright your family is waiting and ill be all right. but isnt there something i can do at the least give you money i asked or prepare you a feast it seems all too little for all that youve done for being away from your wife and your son. then his eye welled a tear that held no regret just tell us you love us and never forget. to fight for our rights back at home while were gone to stand your own watch no matter how long. for when we come home either standing or dead to know you remember we fought and we bled. is payment enough and with that we will trust that we mattered to you as you mattered to us. * * * * * please would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our u.s. service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. lets try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. make people stop and think of our heroes living and dead who sacrificed themselves for us. lcdr jeff giles sc usn 30th naval construction regiment no virus found in this incoming message. checked by avg free edition. version 7.1.409 / virus database 268.14.3/531 - release .

From : miles

and press the darn caps lock key once!!! -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels on 15 nov 2006 233042 -0800 atl0369@gmail.com wrote i am having a low oil pressure problem with my truckfirst off i am an ase tech so i know what i am doingso anyways it has low oil pressure at idle after engine is warmso i went to change the oil pumpit allready had an aftermarket high volume oil pump in itthe same one that i boughtbut i put the new one in anywaysstill low oil pressureso i change the sending unitwitch was looked ame low oil pressuere problemand also i have what sounds like a slight lifter noise above 3k rpmlike the lifters arent pumping all the way upso i pull off the valve covers and check all the push rodsall are clean and i perfect shapethen finnaly the valve clatter has gotten a little worse and now i have a cylinder 1 misfire codeso now im almost sure it is the lifters not pumping upbut what i dont understand is why is there low oil pressure at idle but when above 1k rpm it has 100psi with the high volume pumpand no its not bearing clearnce all bearings are in perfect shape and are newi dont understand what to do here i was going to change all the lifters but i dont know if that will solve my low oil pressure problem or the valve clatterand no its not spark knockany help please thanks -daniel put some 20w50 in it. beekeep .

From : miles

roy wrote hope you got good tight fitting buckets in the cockpit! smirk i have to jump on this before the friggin rabbit does. now that hurts. to think that i would take advantage..... oh please... if i hadnt grabbed it you would have been all over that .vbg actually the seats are real comfortable all kinds of lateral support. id venture to say the seats are better than those in the z-06. and heated if hed only send me the vin....... no way he could bullshit out of it then.. no need. i admit to heated bucket seats you must remember them from years ago. those are the seats ya cant get your wide ass into any more.bfg you and ole mike can now bond with your bunn warmers. dont get too comphy now.... bg for your shoulder of course a warm butt keeps a shoulder happy. does wabbit have a bad shoulder hmmm. nope. other than stiff 50 year old joints you pray for stiff joint!gbfg that one will get me in trouble. ill just shut up for now... im holding up fairly well. sore elbow that happens when ya have to work for a living.. failing eyesight. that happens as ya get old.. gets out shot by his daughter. and that im kinda proud of... bg its those white castles that keep the innards lubed up and flowing. keeping the wide ride wide. i like to think it keeps me from making an appt with a proctologist.. denny roy denny smh .

From : heatwave

it really depends on the tire manufacturer. theoretically a 235/75r15 has about a 29 diameter but that can vary widely. i was just wanting to know which tire is bigger a 235-75-15 or a 30-9.50-15. tires on truck are 30-9.50-15 but the sticker in the door says 235-75-15 are factory. i would like to have a larger tire maybe 31-10.5s on my 92 power ram 150 4x4. thanks .

From : heatwave

any chance of the raz unit working without steering wheel controls earl on wed 15 nov 2006 030012 gmt joe nobody@home.now wrote earl groce egroce@mindspring.com wrote in i have a 92 dakota 4x4 auto with a 360. has the stock tape player radio. has 4 speakers i think... the stock radio is intermittent.. some times i have to turn it off and on 15 - 20 times to get it to come on. is there a radio upgrade from a later model dakota that will swap in and look right to get me a cd player.. and will it work with the 4 speaker system i dont want a fancysmancy sound system.. just a good 4 speaker radio with a cd that looks right in my truck. thanks in advance advance nc. earl ive got a raz unit from my 03 dak identical to the 02 thats sitting around collecting dust. worked perfectly last time i used it about 2 months ago; i replaced it with a new jvc hd radio. the raz has rds cassette/cd cd changer controls and of course 4 speaker outputs. if you already have steering wheel controls they should work on this unit as my dak had them. e-mail to 97strat-at- gmail-dot-com if youre interested. .

From : miles

on nov 15 748 am stephen harding smhardin...@msn.com wrote the scientific method requires that one observe formulate a hypothesis on why the observation occurred and than attempt to *disprove* the hypothesis. its generally very difficult to outright prove a hypothesis so disproving it is the preferred route. first off science isnt trying to disprove the existence of god. there are too many tangible useful hypothesis to be tested ... like global warming cancer etc. i spend about 20 hours a week in the lab testing various hypothesis some mine and some others ... and i assure you proving or disproving god never enters my or anyone elses mind. trying to prove or disprove the existence of god is a complete waste of time. so is talking about it. clearly the existence or lack thereof of a god is well outside the realm of the scientific methods service to us at least for quite a time into the future. correct. the scientific method is for proving that which pertains to matter or energy. not the fantasy of an all powerful all knowing god .... who apparently cares so little about his followers that he allows science to keep their sorry asses alive with the medical research we *have* proven using the scientific method. whoa this is getting heavy now! remember back in the old days when this group talked dodge trucks what simpletons we all were back then huh indeed. craig c. .

From : miles

tbone wrote once again you are unable to answer even a simple question. i did many times. people should be able to make what their abilities allow them. youve been two-faced on the matter. on one hand you blast them like crazy say they need to be taxed higher prevented from making more than some magical amount called enough etc. on the other hand you have stated you do not want limits imposed on how much someone can make even though your wishes would have exactly that effect. oh really. and what exactly is the issue it intended to solve according to you the issue is to prevent people from making more than enough. you cant say tax everything higher that costs more than x $s. why not because of the following. it has to be a higher tax on higher priced items in a given market. a $200000 car should be taxed higher than a $200000 house. i agree with you but also feel that it would be far to complicated to implement and be far to subject to corruption. a higher tax simply based on price alone would hurt people of all income brackets for the reason above. .

From : tbone

hey roy. keep us informed about your shoulder. like i said previously ive had 8 surgeries in the last 10 years in an attempt to correct mine. now they are wanting to do a total replacement of the shoulder joint. im not so sure i want it done. everytime they have gone in they have messed it up even more. im afraid of losing the use of my left arm. anyway im curious as to what they recommend for you. bob did a cat scan with dye injected today. that was fun. see the doc friday to discuss the results and next step. r .

From : tbone

hi people 1995 1500 auto 2wd 5.9 this has recently been difficult to start when cold but then starts fine when the engine is warmed up. when cold it just clicks a few times and sometimes it doesnt even click. after a few tries it has so far started but i want to fix it before it one day decides not to start at all. i have had the battery checked and it rated at 883 cca which is in excess of the rated 875. i have installed new terminals on the battery leads after cleaning all wires etc. i have checked the grounding connections and every thing is squeaky clean and tight. i am leaning towards the starter solenoid as the starter cranks over fine once it hooks up. anyone have any helpful thoughts on the problem thanks in advance. dave .

From : republicans have destroyed the usa and iraq

republicans have destroyed the usa and iraq wrote yeah yeah whatever blow it our your ass you republican scumbags lost and you will lose some more enough of you ya jerk off you have nothing of value to contribute now and you never did eat shit and die. you liberals cant even come up with a unique reply youve copy and pasted this same reply on several forums as a reply to anything you dont agree with. typical radical liberal. .

From : tbone

======== ======== dingy101 wrote 2000 ram 1500 5.9 auto headers k&n filter system computer chip mod i have headers that come into one cat then split out into dual flowmasters what needs to be done to the front or rear o2 sensor if the cat were removed gary ======= ======= it needs to be mailed to epa with a return address attached a description of why you took it off and a check for i think...$10000 or so for violating federal emissions laws........ or........ you could attempt to swallow it.......... while sitting in a oven......... perhaps giving you some idea of what its gonna be like someday for my ancestors to breath........ while dreading a sunny day........ozone depleated day. actually that would be your descendants not ancestors.......not that im splitting hairs........but i agree with you. jasperp because of folks like you. marshmonster sips his mushroom tea........and answers the questions asked.......to the best of his ability .

From : 9dodgefan

them off and go back on and they may work 1 - 7 or 8 times and quit. is the blinkers switch in the column going bad if so how hard is it to replace yes its the multi-function switch thats shot. replacement is pretty simple. essentially you remove the trim pieces from the steering column torx screwdrivers needed then remove the multi-function switch with a security or tamper-proof torx screwdriver same as a regular torx only with a hole in the middle because the screw head has a pin in the middle. the wiring harness is screwed to the switch so youll remove that screw as well. getting the steering column trim pieces to all line up upon re-assembly will probably be the trickiest part of the job. just dont tighten any screws until the pieces all fit together. before doing this disconnect the battery and wait several minutes for the capacitors in the airbag system to discharge. accidentally setting off an airbag in your face could ruin your whole day. thanks tim for the info. ill give it a shot next week and let you know if i was successful. ill be putting the dodge in the shop today for a radiator leak. .

From : miles

yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. unfortunately there is plenty of documentation to support clintons claim of having tried to do something about bin laden. kerry was never president so you cannot fault him for something he never had a chance to do and kennedy falls into the same category. one left a woman to drown in his car while he walked off in a drunken stupor ya know it baffles me why republicans keep pointing to this guy as a defense for bush or any other republican. seriously mike wtf i hate kennedys assinine politics and his rhetorical rants and the fact that he is a jackass on many levels. but really after what 30 friggin years republicans are still measuring how well their guys do against this bar im sorry i expect a bit more than better than ted kennedy out of any office holder. and the other spent his tour in nam collecting sham purple hearts with which to begin his career in politics and ol ankle pants who dodged the draft i might add spent his time in the oval office collecting blowjobs rather that catch and kill those who bombed the wtc the first time...yeah now those folks you gotta admire..... yup agreed on all counts. now when will both parties figure out but especially the reps at this point that using lame excuses of well the other guy didnt do so well isnt getting the job done i respect your opinion 99% of the time but this crap of we only have to do better than the jackass over there is why the country is going to hell. bush sucks and its not because kerry sucks or kennedy swims or gore has clean air farts its because bush sucks. when junior dumped powell his admin went in the shitter. when he dumped ronald dumbsfeld his admin took the best turn in a long while. calling up dads advisors couldnt have hurt. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author lol and this is our militaries commander and chief. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. yall knock yerselves out bashing bush but at least he had the balls to go after the terrorist thugs who perpetrated 9/11. thats more than i can say about clinton/kerry/kenndy and their ilk. one left a woman to drown in his car while he walked off in a drunken stupor and the other spent his tour in nam collecting sham purple hearts with which to begin his career in politics and ol ankle pants who dodged the draft i might add spent his time in the oval office collecting blowjobs rather that catch and kill those who bombed the wtc the first time...yeah now those folks you gotta admire..... sheesh! mike .

From : roy

years ago i had a 74 dodge dart. with the 318. there was a vacuum hose from the back of the carb to the bottom of the air cleaner. when that hose was off the vehicle would run awful. id be looking for cracked or missing vacuum hose. for that matter at this age of a truck buy a couple rolls of vacuum hose and replace all the vacuum lines. please let us know what you find. so that we can learn. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. ive got an 78 dodge power wagon d200 with the 360. the truck wont idle nor stay running. it dies when you stop for light etc... mileage is crap. plugs are fine. timing carburetor the truck only has 55k but it is 28 years old. thought of switching to a thunder series 650 which i probably will do anyway but was hoping to get some insight on what else could be the problem. any help will be appreciated. thanks. .

From : miles

on sat 11 nov 2006 095912 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote therein lies the crux of the issue by insisting that christian values be the law of the land you christians in general infringe upon the rights of those who dont believe such nonsense. and there you go calling christian beliefs nonsense. that is the crux of the issue as i see it. i might say you are wrong in your beliefs if any but i do not say yours are nonsense. my beliefs for the most part can be be proven; christianity cant be proven and is strictly based on faith. if you want to live by the tenets of a religion i will gladly tolerate that practice but when you want to interject your beliefs into government i will object. my belief if it is so that christian values be the basis for the laws of the land is nonsense and infringes on your rights you couldnt be more wrong. however your belief that there should be no values as the basis of the law of the land doesnt encroach on my rights or the rights af any other person who believes there is right or wrong or that there needs to be a basis for laws like many believers you believe that values can only come from religion; again youre wrong. there are concepts of right and wrong that are universal and transcend religion. the basic fundamental values ridiculed as christian values are also the core values of many other religions of the world. never said otherwise. some of your so called christian values are universal. the ten commandments for example were given to moses an isrealite the man who was a forfather of not only the christian but the jew and the muslim as well. the fact that several religions are based on the old testament adds no credibility to the beliefs. for most of civilized history people believed the earth was flat; they were wrong and its quite possible that believers in the god of abraham are also wrong and number among the members of the thousands of religions that have existed since the beginning of recorded history. i understand to you and many others all three are nonsense and the concept of an all-powerfull god whatever you want to call him/it/her is heresy. the thought that anything or anyone should have any power over you is unthinkable. so be it. but do not insist that anarchy must reign so your supremacy can not be challenged. your last statement makes a lot of assumptions. you falsely assume that all of those who deny god jesus christ and christianity deny the existence of a higher power. before you accuse me of playing word games by distinguishing between god and a higher power be aware that they are not necessarily the same thing. for all any of us know that higher power might be a non-entity. .

From : Annonymous

on sun 12 nov 2006 102225 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote tbone wrote when is enough enough when it comes to what they take from society according to you its not enough until they are crushed into submission and punished to your liking. actually what would improve that would be a graduated system for this tax itself. under a certain item value there would be no tax and as the value increases so does the tax percentage on it. we already have various luxury taxes on many items. it doesnt always solve the issue intended. it has to be balanced with the economy the particular items market serves. in otherwords an items value is relative to other items in the same market. you cant say tax everything higher that costs more than x $s. it has to be a higher tax on higher priced items in a given market. a $200000 car should be taxed higher than a $200000 house. all i know is that the tax system is totally screwed up. it is about as complex a thing as you can imagine. it has been added to everytime some fatcat needed help from his or her congress person. there is no justice in the tax code and it seems like that is what you two are arguing about. your argument over who it is the most unjust for is a little lame dont you think the whole thing needs to be redone simplified and made more fair. that is what you two should argue for. lets get the pos code written again and done right this time. you are correct again!!!!! .

From : tbone

on sun 12 nov 2006 102225 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote tbone wrote when is enough enough when it comes to what they take from society according to you its not enough until they are crushed into submission and punished to your liking. actually what would improve that would be a graduated system for this tax itself. under a certain item value there would be no tax and as the value increases so does the tax percentage on it. we already have various luxury taxes on many items. it doesnt always solve the issue intended. it has to be balanced with the economy the particular items market serves. in otherwords an items value is relative to other items in the same market. you cant say tax everything higher that costs more than x $s. it has to be a higher tax on higher priced items in a given market. a $200000 car should be taxed higher than a $200000 house. all i know is that the tax system is totally screwed up. it is about as complex a thing as you can imagine. it has been added to everytime some fatcat needed help from his or her congress person. there is no justice in the tax code and it seems like that is what you two are arguing about. your argument over who it is the most unjust for is a little lame dont you think the whole thing needs to be redone simplified and made more fair. that is what you two should argue for. lets get the pos code written again and done right this time. .

From : miles

tbone wrote oh please miles enough with the bs right wing fear tactics. those companies would still exist even without those over paid assholes and so would the jobs and probably at a higher pay with the massive savings in their salaries. please tbone stop with the liberal absurd logic devoid of any logic based reality. companies grow because people invest with the expectation of large returns. erase those returns for those at the top and the investments cease to exist or they take them elsewhere. profits are the very reason people invest in the growth of a company. i know you dont like that call it greed or whatever but take it away and it stops. yes i do believe that there needs to be some regulation in industry and the market as people like you will destroy it otherwise. thats the communist model. liberals just take it a step at a time to keep us pointed in that direction. more socialism more regulation more control. no thanks. and if they do that the gubberment will have no choice but to clobber them with huge import taxes and tariffs making it completely unprofitable for them to continue and push their prices so high the market will be ripe for some new entrepreneurs to open new business to fill in the hole creating new and better paying jobs. now there ya go tbone with your absurd lack of knowledge on economics. you seem to think that companies move overseas for the sole purpose of then importing back to the usa. thats not true at all. they move and sell where the market is more profitable. it is becoming that way and that needs to be changed before our economy collapses and / or we wind up in a full blown revolution. taxing the hell out of companies is not the solution. shutting them down and taking away the very reason for their growth will not get you any gains except your own personal take that bastards pleasures. i never said otherwise but there has to be a limit on how much and how many they are willing to screw over to make it. at one time those limits were set by social values and respect for others but those qualities are all but gone in todays corporate leaders. no it wasnt. people have always invested into a company with the expectation of high returns. crush those returns and you crush the company and any chance of growth. basically you want to set a limit on returns for someones investment. are you now referring to business owners and coroprate execs lol!!! yea they make so little and give so much away. now please tell us who set and controls these bullshit market wages that you keep hiding behind. market wages are set by market supply and demand. i have asked you several times what would happen if we suddenly increased he minimum wage to $25/hr. would we no longer have poverty would everyone currently making minimum wage suddenly have more buying power if its wide scale above market value then the market will simply adjust to it and the buying power remains unchanged. if growth in the economy and the job market dont help the majority of the people in the country and only the few rich you are correct. shutting down the companies you despise wont get you anything other than personal satisfaction for sticking it to them. but that is the funny thing the reason so many are poor is because a few are so rich. no thats not the reason at all. what skilled jobs are you referring to that these poor people are working what are they earning and how much should they earn thats right which means that they will invest in small companies giving far more people the opportunity to make it which is the way it should be. no they will invest where the rate of return is maximized. if the invest in small companies those companies will become large and youll shut them down. instead investers will take their money and go elsewhere overseas etc. where the market is much larger for large scale investing without liberals who will shut it down. .

From : roy

tbone wrote just about every upper exec in these large companies. very small number of people. so hang them and then what no more jobs. good job. oh please miles enough with the bs right wing fear tactics. those companies would still exist even without those over paid assholes and so would the jobs and probably at a higher pay with the massive savings in their salaries. yea and in your fantasy world that might be true but in most cases it is not a great product it is a required product sounds like you prefer the communist method of a controlled market. you wont admit that but its actually where you are leaning towards. more control of the market how much profit one makes industry regulation etc. yes i do believe that there needs to be some regulation in industry and the market as people like you will destroy it otherwise. more complete crap and if the jobs being created dont pay a living wage because all of the profits are going to the top few who cares if these companies grow or not. or they move overseas. your desire to crush them isnt a good thing. it wont get you what you want. and if they do that the gubberment will have no choice but to clobber them with huge import taxes and tariffs making it completely unprofitable for them to continue and push their prices so high the market will be ripe for some new entrepreneurs to open new business to fill in the hole creating new and better paying jobs. it will not happen over night and there will be some pain involved but in the end we will all be much better off so in the end i do get what most of us want. this is exactly what i mean about you and your greed. the only incentive that you see to do anything is $$$$$$. sorry tbone thats the way it works. it is becoming that way and that needs to be changed before our economy collapses and / or we wind up in a full blown revolution. people create business to make money. not to just be nice to you. i never said otherwise but there has to be a limit on how much and how many they are willing to screw over to make it. at one time those limits were set by social values and respect for others but those qualities are all but gone in todays corporate leaders. in your fantasy world people would work for very little that is already the case for many workers. give everything they have away and pay everyone above market wages so everyone is all happy. are you now referring to business owners and coroprate execs lol!!! yea they make so little and give so much away. now please tell us who set and controls these bullshit market wages that you keep hiding behind. how about those very corporate execs who also set their salaries to the sky is the limit. its a fantasy tbone. whether it is greed or not it is what it is. yep and something needs to change that. without incentive there would be zero growth in the economy and job market. you seem quite happy if that is the case. if growth in the economy and the job market dont help the majority of the people in the country and only the few rich you are correct. everyone poor as long as there are no rich. but that is the funny thing the reason so many are poor is because a few are so rich. good that will prevent companies from growing to point of becoming it will kill all growth. nobody is going to invest in a company that cant grow. thats right which means that they will invest in small companies giving far more people the opportunity to make it which is the way it should be. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

craig c. wrote i have mixed feelings about this. my capitalist said screams unfairness because i happen to pay a great deal of tax due to my situation. however the compassionate side tells me that i should pay more than a struggling single mom or dad or a working student that is learning something that will help the country. the rich already do pay vastly more than a struggling single mom or dad or working student. they do because of the vastly different levels of income. they take the most therefore they pay the most. the rich pay the majority of all taxes paid. when is enough enough when is enough enough when it comes to what they take from society its a tough situation. personally i like the idea of abolishing income tax and going to straight federal sales tax. i like the idea of usage taxes but liberals say it punishes the poor. that is because it does. the rich only spend a small amount of the money that they take while the poor spend every dime just to survive which would put the majority of the burden on those who can afford it the least pretty much like our current tax cuts do. perhaps a reverse graduated system of tax refunds based on salary would improve that. actually what would improve that would be a graduated system for this tax itself. under a certain item value there would be no tax and as the value increases so does the tax percentage on it. you also have to bring back the offshore shelters. those at 50k and under usually have nothing to write off. i still kinda like my idea of a percentage tax under 50k or whatever figure base it on net over base it on gross before write offs. .

From : stormin mormon

tbone wrote yep as soon as the other groups he subscribes to get tired of listening to his crap and the weather is not good enough for him to go out fishing he comes back. i dont think he posts crap for the most part. has good info on the old dodges and seems to have been of help to some coming here in the past. seems everyone of the regulars here have some sort of non-relevant topic they like to bring up time and time again even if only as jokes wabbits and leather seats come to mind. the religious stuff seems to be a recent addition to budds contributions here. has he seen god been close to the other side after yet another body part failure dont know but it doesnt really get me too riled. given the amount of back-biting that has always been a part of this group seems some religious proselytizing shouldnt be too hard to put up with given some of the other discussions zinging back and forth around here in the past! smh .

From : stormin mormon

i believe that since much of the bible is symbolic there is no such thing as the literal interpretation. actually since literal isnt interprted and interpreting something isnt literal you cant have one of them. which version is correct american standard new international king james revised king james or some other version they cant all be right. as a mormon i believe that the book of mormon is scripture also. so i dont agree with your biblical inerrancy. yes im tolerant of you. believe what you want. when its all said and done ill come down and visit you once in awhile. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : miles

clare at snyder.on.ca wrote bryan wrote clare at snyder.on.ca wrote just for the record. believing and saying those who do not believe as you do you is wrong is not necessarily intollerance. i can dissagree with your beliefs and still respect you and tollerate you. intollerance is refusing to respect the right of someone else to be wrong. tollerance does not mean you have to adopt the thinking of those you dissagree with or compromise your own belief. if i say the bottom light of a traffic signal is green and you say it is red ill try to tell you you are mistaken but as long as you are ready and willing to stop on your green and procede on your red there is no problem and i can allow you to continue going through life believing green is red. if you continue in your belief that green is red and drive through your green lights you are intollerant because you are forcing your mistaken beliefs on the rest of the world. i agree with your analogy. however i draw the line when someone suffers from anothers beliefs being force upon the person. in your last paragraph the person has the potential to harm others with his/her belief. bryan and your possible belief that you should be allowed to do whatever you think is right at the time does not have that potential ill just pick a few hot topics - whether they are part of my belief or yours is immaterial - sexual promiscuity hetro or homo free abortion on demand the right to grow/produce/sell/consume ilicit pharmecutetcals the right to carry dangerous/offensive weapons the whole issue of divorce/family breakdown -- none of these have potential to do harm you dont live in the same world i do if you truly believe that. have you not heard of the aids epedemic ive lived in africa where it is rampant - and do you know why it is africa as a whole is the most promiscous society on earth. then they believe the way to cure aids is to have sexual relations with a virgin and the likelihood of finding a virgin of any age over 12 is getting remote in many parts of the continent. so rape in general and rape of children in particular is the growing result of those beliefs being forced on the society. no harm being done closer to home just look at the inner cities of just about anywhere in north america. family values are virtually non-existant - particularly you can check the facts - im not being discriminatory with the american urban black. the breakdown of the family unit due to the lack of a moral compass and this also leads to the lack of that moral compass is not causing harm give your head a shake. im not saying you must believe as i do --- im just saying do not discount christian values as irrelevant nonsense or whatever. following a set of rules whether you agree with them or not is not causing you any harm is it what harm is caused by living to a moral code - whether you happen to agree with it or not also - would you rather live as if a god exists and in the end find he does not or live as if he does not and in the end find that he does - and that he is a very just god no corner given - no forgiveness no allowances for doing what was right to you not that i believe in that kind of god exactly. i believe in a forgiving god - but forgiveness is on his terms - and therin comes the christian values and christian beliefs i agree with you. really i do! .

From : miles

clare i apologize for my accusation about you being a liberal. i ask for forgiveness. please email me if you will. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on tue 14 nov 2006 064712 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote stephen harding wrote i regard myself as among the faithful in that i think there probably is something like a god in this universe although i doubt any religion really has a handle on the way it truly is and i have no problem with a 4 billion old solar system/earth. the bible says it cant be 4 billion years old according to our resident scholar here. actually if you take the bible literally it could be. in genesis 1 it says in the beginning god created the heaven and the earthand the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep. the beginning of the world as we know it started here. the seven days

From : the republicans have destroyed america and iraq

on tue 14 nov 2006 223605 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote clare i apologize for my accusation about you being a liberal. i ask for forgiveness. please email me if you will. clare meet budd. budd meet clare. clare will you be budds friend -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on tue 14 nov 2006 064712 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote stephen harding wrote i regard myself as among the faithful in that i think there probably is something like a god in this universe although i doubt any religion really has a handle on the way it truly is and i have no problem with a 4 billion old solar system/earth. the bible says it cant be 4 billion years old according to our resident scholar here. actually if you take the bible literally it could be. in genesis 1 it says in the beginning god created the heaven and the earthand the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep. the beginning of the world as we know it started here. the seven days whether literal 24 hour days or not start here. is it possible this is earth mk ii the remains of earth mki may date from much older. nowhere in the bible does it say god created the earth from nothing. of course it changes. the catholic church accepts the sun being at the center of the solar system. the fact that it at one time did not means simply that humans are error prone and worse. my point was that at the time their religion was based on their belief the earth was the center. it was a fundamental principal in their belief. we see that same thing with todays religions. to them the earth can not possibly be older than about 8000 years. they make no room at all for the possibility they are wrong. they turn their back on anything that suggests they are wrong. just as happened in prior cultures and religions that are long gone. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

on nov 9 805 pm hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote it just goes to show that there is somebody out there for everyone. indeed. theres an ass for every seat. craig c. .

From : tbone

having said that i am done. its fun beating up on idiots like tbone and snocone but i refuse to continue this with someone i still consider a gentleman. and just think how much more fun it would have been if you actually won a few of them lol! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

i have never said i was innocent but i am a sinner that has been forgiven. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote wysiwyg. youve change in the past few months budd. youve become intolerant of anyone that doesnt agree with everything you say. youve also insulted many here in your delusional belief that youre innocent and were all bad to you. if thats the way your religion works then ill stick with my own beliefs. thankfully most christians do not share your more radical hijacked version of it. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

rotflmbo!!!! it was you liberals that stole the social security and now those liberals that dont have other income will be in the same boat as i am. then i guess that makes you a liberal too then huh budd. according the the conservative mind set everything that happens to someone is completely the responsibility of that person and since you claim to be a conservative suck it up and take responsibility for you situation. bet youre real proud of that. if all of the problems are due to the liberals what happened during the 12 years that the conservatives have been in charge -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want fox is a very suspect source. only to liberals who avoid anything not resembling their normal media pablum which appears to be about 80% of the country but then agaon with your bias i can see why you would believe this. in pa it was a choice between a republican idiot and a democratic conservative. in your opinion . . . . and you know different how our winners were casey who is catholic and ran on a conservative values platform boosted by the voting record of santorum which was 98% with bush. carney beat don sherwood who had no values. carney is also catholic and has a strong family values platform. voter turnout was normal for a presidentail election and the district is split 60/40 in favor of the republicans. iow the conservatives were out in droves despite the wisdom of fox . and your point is no matter the ratio there the lack of conservative voters nation wide that caused the results. no it was the wisdom of the public and the fact that the republican party has long lost their way. btw did you ever notice i wasnt condemning voluntary adult stem cell research or does that matter any more the problem here is that none of the methods that max mentioned cost any human lives and the point he was trying to make was that too many like yourself automatically associate stem cell with abortions and this argument by you more than proves his point. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

says... was reading about our presidents next trip. hes off to viet nam. couldnt get him there during the war but i guess he figures with veterans day and all he might as well show up. you oouldnt get cheney there either he managed to get like 6 deferments while in school. the bigger the pussy the more unwinnable wars they start. its easy to be a big man when someone else is there to back you up. .

From : xclimation

suddenly without warning budd cochran exclaimed 10-nov-06 1135 am ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view there are others who will interpret the bible literally and reach different opinions on the same subjects than your own. they believe the bible is the word of god and follow it literally but not the same as you. how can they be wrong they read the word of god and follow its every tenant. and if they are wrong then arent you too ill tolerate your view if youll tolerate mine which is very different than yours. you ask for tolerance but absolutely refuse to tolerate other views yourself all other views are wrong. flamebait your name is masochist. jmc .

From : napalmheart

budd cochran wrote wysiwyg. youve change in the past few months budd. youve become intolerant of anyone that doesnt agree with everything you say. youve also insulted many here in your delusional belief that youre innocent and were all bad to you. if thats the way your religion works then ill stick with my own beliefs. thankfully most christians do not share your more radical hijacked version of it. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

going to change the differential oil in my 98 dakota 2wd 3.9l auto. best to try to suction it out or take the cover off if take the cover off is there enough clearance to pry it loosed over a standard oil collection pan one of those plastics with a hard top or does it need to be lifted best tool to break the differential cover loose without doing damage thanks frank .

From : beekeep

ok since this seems to the real issue lets look at it. . . . i hold the view and belief in the literal interpretation of the bible and it is the inerrant and inspired word of god and this is the right view to have. all other views are wrong. will you tolerate my view are you willing to tolerate any one elses ephesians 41-6 -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : Annonymous

wysiwyg. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams beekeep wrote hey - snoman just gave someone here some reasonable advice so anything is posible. maybe the old budd will come back! i hope the old budd comes back! i disagreed with his religious views but i always respected them and enjoyed great conversation on other topics. cant seem to do that any more. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

on thu 9 nov 2006 182957 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote wysiwyg. that is very scary. very sad. very sick. and very dark. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams beekeep wrote hey - snoman just gave someone here some reasonable advice so anything is posible. maybe the old budd will come back! i hope the old budd comes back! i disagreed with his religious views but i always respected them and enjoyed great conversation on other topics. cant seem to do that any more. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

theguy@whatever.net wrote an interesting picture of the senator on this site for max http//www.rickemerson.com/ i found the salma hayek photo set linked on that page to be more appealing. -- ken .

From : jmc

no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want fox is a very suspect source. only to liberals who avoid anything not resembling their normal media pablum in pa it was a choice between a republican idiot and a democratic conservative. in your opinion . . . . our winners were casey who is catholic and ran on a conservative values platform boosted by the voting record of santorum which was 98% with bush. carney beat don sherwood who had no values. carney is also catholic and has a strong family values platform. voter turnout was normal for a presidentail election and the district is split 60/40 in favor of the republicans. iow the conservatives were out in droves despite the wisdom of fox . and your point is no matter the ratio there the lack of conservative voters nation wide that caused the results. btw did you ever notice i wasnt condemning voluntary adult stem cell research or does that matter any more budd -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

beekeep wrote im not getting rich selling bees but i do o.k. i find the letters are worth more the the money. do you have a web site craig c. he sure does http//www.radix.net/honeybs/ .

From : roy

on thu 9 nov 2006 134242 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote rotflmbo!!!! it was you liberals that stole the social security and now those liberals that dont have other income will be in the same boat as i am. bet youre real proud of that. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 holy jumpin up and down martha. someone closer to budd than me.......someone who knows where he lives might think about callin 911 and having mental health sent out to do a welfare check on him. this is really gettin strange. budd is startin to remind me of a grateful dead song. id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams ah yes i forget . . .truth goes right over the heads of liberals. if it wasnt for us liberals as you call it youd starve. sorry. no the word is pathetic. now do me a favor and put me back in your kf. .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

suddenly without warning craig c. exclaimed 10-nov-06 124 am napalmheart wrote hopefully this country gets turned around. r turned from what to what hopefully 1 from fiscal irresponsibility to fiscal responsibility. 2 from sending our jobs overseas to keeping them here. 3 from no environmental policy to reasonable environmental restrictions. 4 from oil to alternative energy. 5 from religous based decisions stem cells to separation of church and state. 6 from war to peace. 7 from status quo to a world leader in technology and forward thinking. 8 from being disrespected to being respected in the world scene. again ... hopefully. oh and now that the dems are in ... wheres my free pony - craig c. well we can hope but even with the best leadership i doubt #6 will happen. too many people out there that hate us now really need #8. even in friendly countries in which ive been living the general opinion of america as a country has dropped considerably our current governments fault + how the media reports it imho. which makes living in even friendly foreign countries that much more... interesting. my main hopes are #3 and #4. get #4 were a long way toward #3 and #6 at a minimum. however i doubt things will change for the better just cau

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

have a majority in congress just now. and im not sure a democrat president would be the answer either. both parties are pretty hopeless in my opinion id like to see a strong independent win. were supposed to be a multi-party nation not a two-party nation... jmc . 222 325097 siidnfrnyqwpjc7ynz2dnuvztadnz2d@comcast.com rotflmbo!!!! it was you liberals that stole the social security and now those liberals that dont have other income will be in the same boat as i am. budd told you before i dont pay into nor will i collect ss. but it is obvious that if your beloved conservatives had won and maintained control they would gutted every senior benifit they could get their hands on rotflmbo!!! now your confusing conservatives with spendocrats. bet youre real proud of that. budd you made you choices stop crying and playing the victim. telling you what your heroes did to the country roy. budd you chose where to work you chose what to do with your money save invest spend or drink it. stop complaining and accept the choices that you made and the result that came from those choices. most of us screw up at one time or another and suck it up and move on. you oth continue to desire play the victim. now ill tell you up front just like every other time you start with me that if you continue you will get your feelings hurt. as i told you before i do not give a fuck about you your situation religion or anything else having to do with you. thats the difference between us roy i do care about you and your eternal soul...and its why im a conservative i care about others. budd trust me i nor my eternal soul need or require your concern. perhaps youd be better served if you spent your time being concerned about yourself and get some friggin help. .

From : tbone

suddenly without warning craig c. exclaimed 12-nov-06 350 am on nov 10 1006 pm jmc nogroupss...@nojodibody.homeus wrote now that its getting rfh here1 my steering has taken to clunking a bit as i turn. i can feel it and hear it. seems to be worse when its hotter. is my steering loose or something more ominous is this something a layperson can fix themselves i had a similar problem with my 2002 ram 4x4. mine sounded like a spring twisting out of kilter. it only happened when was hot outside. and only when turning left. unfortunately i never was able to figure out the problem before i sold it. 1 really...hot. 102f/38c and not even to the high yet. augh! yep ... this past texas summer wasnt too bad ... but still quite hot. i think 104f was our high. however we have had some doosies over the past decade. but global warming is just a hoax you know. - craig c. not in australia. parts of this really really parched country have reservoirs that are down to 18% capacity. thats really really scary. i dont know if its making the in the states but its a real crisis here probably worse than the dust bowl era in the us. last decent rain was in 2000. im told they went 14 months in central australia last year without a drop of rain. its so bad that programs like a current affair - a program that exposes wrongdoers like welfare cheats and the like - had a thing about a water cheat - someone using his hosepipe on a restriction day. oh and its 102 here *in the spring* - equivalent to may. im just happy that today weve got a little bit of cloud today. its 10am here and already in the 90s. jmc .

From : miles

on sat 11 nov 2006 025603 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote damn even at my worst i wasnt bad enough to get a web site dedicated to me. are you proud budd oh but you do! seems to me i posted a link awhile back. you must have missed it. beekeep .

From : miles

budd cochran wrote i will not tolerate being told the bible is wrong and that i am wrong for believing it. people here will not tolerate you telling them they are wrong for their beliefs. it works both ways budd. if you dish it expect it back. you need to start tolerating people who do not believe the same as you. i have repeatedly stated i do not feel you are wrong for your beliefs. but you have told me i am wrong am going to hell and so on. get off your soapbox and start respecting others if you expect the same back. .

From : miles

craig c. wrote i have mixed feelings about this. my capitalist said screams unfairness because i happen to pay a great deal of tax due to my situation. however the compassionate side tells me that i should pay more than a struggling single mom or dad or a working student that is learning something that will help the country. the rich already do pay vastly more than a struggling single mom or dad or working student. the rich pay the majority of all taxes paid. when is enough enough its a tough situation. personally i like the idea of abolishing income tax and going to straight federal sales tax. i like the idea of usage taxes but liberals say it punishes the poor. perhaps a reverse graduated system of tax refunds based on salary would improve that. .

From : tbone

roy wrote miles how about we do a percentage of net under 100k and over do gross not sure what you mean. taxes are based on a % of income - deductions. if you are referring to corporate taxes then its % of income - expenses - deductions. we already have a graduated tax rate system. the more you earn the higher the % in taxes. raising rates too high on a graduated basis reduces the incentive to grow. thats not good in the long run. .

From : beekeep

well roy looks like you choose to not tolerate my beliefs. i want you to get help!! no surprise. let your family read your posts for the past month. no balls .

From : craig c

on wed 08 nov 2006 175151 gmt bigironram not@work.com wrote beekeep wrote im not getting rich selling bees but i do o.k. i find the letters are worth more the the money. do you have a web site craig c. he sure does http//www.radix.net/honeybs/ www.beesinabottle.com is mine as well. beekeep .

From : napalmheart

scott hendryx wrote http//www.seasonshot.com80/how.cfm -- --scott hendryx-- i have changed your subject line to start with ot . rort regulars have an unwritten agreement/rule that when we post an off topic subject we will include this simple courtesy. i am not one of them but that courtesy helps many here that read this forum for rv related information only. no direspect meant. just a simple request. thanks! deer dumbass ive been poasting under various names on this groop for years. if you didnt have your head up your ass you would know that. if you want to be a moron netnanny then go else where. as far as im concerned your an old fart with bad breath. -- --scott hendryx-- mianderson said also youre totally being suckered on the bc game. fsu will cover.... .

From : diddlywhoot

simple answer tom. max implied that anyone that opposed stem cell research for any reason was being despicable and selfish and in the same breath commented how he himself had selfish reasons for wanting stem cell research to succeed.. ergo according to max since i despise research requiring human embryonic / fetal / zygote cells i am despicable. he is merely a hypocrite. it takes one to know one. how would you characterize an individual who by his own words went from being an agnostic to being a bible-spouting christian at the insistence of his spouse .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

thank you. better to be a jesus robot that a willing slave to satan. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on thu 9 nov 2006 104848 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote you post and wonder why i think youre an idiot -- budd cochran the problem with that statement is that you no longer have a mind capable of thinking. youre just a jesus robot. beekeep -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : beekeep

spin it anyway you care to but the fact that you came to your religious consciousness by way of sexual blackmail makes you the worst kind of hypocrite. no bible bookie no nookie nookie. so what have we learned from this he thinks with his penis and the brain in his penis is bigger than the one in his head. beekeep -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com . 222 325092 4553abc5.43609109@usenet.radix.net on thu 9 nov 2006 114841 -0800 john kunkel nobody@nowhere.net wrote hello john. unfortunately you are wrong. my future wife merely set a condition for dating that is to attend church. she did not specify which church nor demand that i had to become a christian before marriage. as a fact i was not a christian when we took our vows so you are in error. it was just about a year later i took christ as my personal savior. see what happens when you choose to misunderstand what is written the fact that you went to church at the insistence of your lady when you would not have done so on your own makes my observation valid. its called being pussy-whipped. spin it anyway you care to but the fact that you came to your religious consciousness by way of sexual blackmail makes you the worst kind of hypocrite. no bible bookie no nookie nookie. so what have we learned from this he thinks with his penis and the brain in his penis is bigger than the one in his head. beekeep .

From : beekeep

santorum is a weird sort...... -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author an interesting picture of the senator on this site for max http//www.rickemerson.com/ on thu 09 nov 2006 173914 gmt tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on thu 2 nov 2006 205549 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote im with you 1000% on this. people should get educated before they start jumping on the abortion bit. there are other ways to get stem cells. well this is strange. it would appear that we all agree! hey did hell just freeze over or what yes it did and im freezing my ass off so cut it out!!!! .

From : roy

on thu 09 nov 2006 172807 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote going to change the differential oil in my 98 dakota 2wd 3.9l auto. best to try to suction it out or take the cover off its best to take the cover off. that way you can get a look inside and check things out. youll need some rtv to re-seal it. rtv is real tough velcro. after installing it you can throw the cover bolts away. beekeep .

From : roy

the light going out usually indicates that the pcm no longer sees an active problem but the codes will be retained for a period of time to aid in diagnostics should the problem be of an of an intermittent nature. you can clear the codes by disconnecting the battery for about 5 minutes or if you have access to a code reader with that capability and if they do not return. problem solved. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving a couple of months ago the check engine light came on. the codes were p0300 304 305 and 306. i used fuel injection cleaner with two tanks of gas. subsequently the check engine light went out and has not come back on for weeks. it is still not on but the codes remain. do i still have the problem indicated by the codes john 2002 dakota 3.9 qc auto and for the redneckfromhell it is pat. blue .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

budd cochran wrote it does until you try to force your beliefs on others. what do you call it when you tell someone that because of their beliefs they are crazy senile stupid intolerant sub-human despicable etc. and they need to be like yourself to be acceptable budd you told me i am going to hell because of my beliefs. thats only the start. contrary to your statements you have not simply discussed your beliefs on an equal basis. you have not respected mine at all. ill await your apology. i hope that you are much younger than i think you are because you will be waiting a very long time for that to happen. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

a couple of months ago the check engine light came on. the codes were p0300 304 305 and 306. i used fuel injection cleaner with two tanks of gas. subsequently the check engine light went out and has not come back on for weeks. it is still not on but the codes remain. do i still have the problem indicated by the codes john 2002 dakota 3.9 qc auto and for the redneckfromhell it is pat. blue .

From : budd cochran mrd150 preciscom spam net

you post and wonder why i think youre an idiot -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on thu 9 nov 2006 050529 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want a vote cast counts for whom it was cast a vote not cast votes for the opposition. -- budd cochran you post s statement like that and cant understand why everyone thinks youre an idiot beekeep -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : xclimation

going to change the differential oil in my 98 dakota 2wd 3.9l auto. best to try to suction it out or take the cover off its best to take the cover off. that way you can get a look inside and check things out. youll need some rtv to re-seal it. if take the cover off is there enough clearance to pry it loosed over a standard oil collection pan sure - though it might be better to use a catch pan with an open top - the gear oils going to dump out pretty much all at once and the drain pans that just have the center drain hole might not drain quickly enough to prevent the gear oil from overflowing. depending on clearance you may also want to drop the spare tire. need to be lifted best tool to break the differential cover loose without doing damage a gasket scraper... therell be at least one spot where the flat part of the carrier extends beyond the lip of the cover where you can slide the gasket scraper between the two. a trick is to leave the top two bolts of the cover in place just loose very loose - thatll prevent the cover from falling when you break the rtv seal. once drained clean the cover and carrier mating surface with some brake cleaner and run a nice 1/8 bead of rtv around the perimeter of the cover going to the inside of the bolt holes. slap the cover back in place try to get it aligned the first time - dont want to be squishing the rtv back and forth too much and torque the bolts to 25 ft.lbs. in a criss-cross pattern. let it set up a bit then re-fill with gear oil and friction modifier if you have a limited slip. .

From : beekeep

on thu 2 nov 2006 205549 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote im with you 1000% on this. people should get educated before they start jumping on the abortion bit. there are other ways to get stem cells. well this is strange. it would appear that we all agree! hey did hell just freeze over or what yes it did and im freezing my ass off so cut it out!!!! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving roy max i am completely with you on stem cell research. there is so much good that can come from it! if people would just take the time to actually research it and study it maybe the ignorance behind it would go away. think about all the other diseases that we have cures for today they all had to come from some form of study and research program. i sent a question to rick santorum our state senator. in short i asked what his position on stem cell research is. i feel that stem cell research is essential to finding cures for such things as cancer muscular dystrophy paralysis parkinsons and a host of other diseases. if you agree with senator santorum i urge you to vote for he or those in your state like him. if you agree that stem cell research is essential to medical advancements i urge you to vote against senator santorum and those that share his views. sadly santorums reply shows me exactly how short sighted and how assuming our congressmen are. this is one of many issues that may be decided next week i urge everyone to vote regardless of position. perhaps we can put our values back into the government since they seem to have lost sight of society. my reply to him follows while his reply is below that. senator santorum and staff my question was one about stem cell research. your reply dealt with the issue of abortion and not stem cell research. sadly it is all too often that these issues become somehow confused and intertwined. let me state clearly abortion has little to do with stem cell research. on the issue of abortion i am determined that it is a very personal decision to be made by a medical professional and the patient involved. the hippocratic oath covers this. the last time a government was allowed to start issuing medical decisions that same government also believed genocide was a logical means of population control. while i do not believe the practice of abortion is a good idea i also firmly believe it is not an issue the government has reason to be involved. but let me return to the original question where does senator santorum stand on the issue of stem cell research it is my firmly held belief that stem cell research should be supported by our government. i am not advocating the spending of funds although that would help. i am advocating the support of stem cell research and clearing of legal hurdles for that research that could potentially cure a wide range of disease and maladies suffered by mankind. this is not a question of abortion or right to life in the traditional sense. it is literally the right to many people such as celebrity michael j. fox or my brother to gain hope that stem cell research might one day lead to a cure for parkinsons or in my brothers case muscular dystrophy. it is their right to a life of hope that some day they might be lucky enough to have a chance to test these new methods of treatment let alone be cured by these new methods. sadly given the ease with which you senator and your staff mixed up an issue of abortion with the issue of stem cell research i cannot support you. i asked about stem cell research not abortion. i never mentioned abortion. you failed to even mention stem cell research in the reply to my question. stem cell research does not equate with abortion when posed in a phrase or question. i urge you to change your position or at least find a position regarding stem cell research should you be re-elected. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author ----- original message ----- from senatorsantorum@santorum.senate.gov to max340@verizon.net sent thursday november 02 2006 426 pm subject responding to your message. thank you for contacting me regarding the protection of human life. i appreciate hearing from you and having the benefit of your views. since the roe v. wade decision over 30 years ago abortion has been one of our countrys most important moral issues as it relates to the most fundamental human right - the right to life. i am proud to say that during my time in the house of representatives and in the senate i have maintained a very strong pro-life voting record. i have sponsored and cosponsored numerous pieces of legislation that defend the sanctity of human life. during the 109th congress i am looking forward to leading my colleagues in passing legislation tha

From : tbone

on thu 9 nov 2006 050529 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want a vote cast counts for whom it was cast a vote not cast votes for the opposition. -- budd cochran you post s statement like that and cant understand why everyone thinks youre an idiot beekeep .

From : roy

youre going to use fox as a source kind of reminds me of pravda. no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want a vote cast counts for whom it was cast a vote not cast votes for the opposition. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 id rather live assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt then to live my whole life assuming there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams youve made a few enemies good! it means you stood up for something. winston churchill wow!! it would seem that a pretty strong message was sent nationally. here in ma we have a d for gov. first time in 16 years. also a black man who did some impressive things during the campaign. he is a strong advocate of stem cell research. so that bodes well. hopefully this country gets turned around. r -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : craig c

man i see some things never change - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want a vote cast counts for whom it was cast a vote not cast votes for the opposition. wtf are you talking about wow!! it would seem that a pretty strong message was sent nationally. here in ma we have a d for gov. first time in 16 years. also a black man who did some impressive things during the campaign. he is a strong advocate of stem cell research. so that bodes well. hopefully this country gets turned around. r .

From : Annonymous

napalmheart wrote hopefully this country gets turned around. r turned from what to what hopefully 1 from fiscal irresponsibility to fiscal responsibility. 2 from sending our jobs overseas to keeping them here. 3 from no environmental policy to reasonable environmental restrictions. 4 from oil to alternative energy. 5 from religous based decisions stem cells to separation of church and state. 6 from war to peace. 7 from status quo to a world leader in technology and forward thinking. 8 from being disrespected to being respected in the world scene. that just about sums it up imo as well. one major thing is the s court. as well as federal judge appointments. roy .

From : Annonymous

napalmheart wrote hopefully this country gets turned around. r turned from what to what hopefully 1 from fiscal irresponsibility to fiscal responsibility. 2 from sending our jobs overseas to keeping them here. 3 from no environmental policy to reasonable environmental restrictions. 4 from oil to alternative energy. 5 from religous based decisions stem cells to separation of church and state. 6 from war to peace. 7 from status quo to a world leader in technology and forward thinking. 8 from being disrespected to being respected in the world scene. again ... hopefully. oh and now that the dems are in ... wheres my free pony - craig c. .

From : napalmheart

on thu 9 nov 2006 092347 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want a vote cast counts for whom it was cast a vote not cast votes for the opposition. wtf are you talking about wow!! it would seem that a pretty strong message was sent nationally. here in ma we have a d for gov. first time in 16 years. also a black man who did some impressive things during the campaign. he is a strong advocate of stem cell research. so that bodes well. hopefully this country gets turned around. r .

From : roy

my son bought this truck a 1996 dakota/4wd/318 auto about 3 months ago and had it checked out by a mechanic who gave it a clean bill of health. he stated to me that he put the truck on the lift and pulled the truck into 4wd and all 4 wheels turned. i cannot make this thing go into 4wd nor can i ever get the 4wd light to work. the 4wd shifter seems to work very hard to me. does anyone have any ideas .

From : max dodge

no roy it wasnt the dems that voted in the liberal minority fox poll usa 80% conservative 20% liberal it was the conservatives that were complacent too busy my-vote-doesnt-count uninterested unregistered or too darn lazy pick any and all you want a vote cast counts for whom it was cast a vote not cast votes for the opposition. wtf are you talking about wow!! it would seem that a pretty strong message was sent nationally. here in ma we have a d for gov. first time in 16 years. also a black man who did some impressive things during the campaign. he is a strong advocate of stem cell research. so that bodes well. hopefully this country gets turned around. r .

From : roy

why dont you shut the hell up idot and mind your own bisniss. he is minding his own business shitforbrains aka winnard! .

From : bryan

rick onanian wrote scott hendryx wrote i have changed your subject line to start with ot . rort regulars have an unwritten agreement/rule that when we post an off topic subject we will include this simple courtesy. no direspect meant. just a simple request. deer dumbass ive been poasting under various names on this groop for years. if you didnt have your head up your ass you would know that. were the spelling errors intentional if you want to be a moron netnanny then go else where. as far as im concerned your an old fart with bad breath. that describes nearly everybody here. anyway hes wrong; here in rort the unwritten agreement/rule is that just about everything is on topic opposite of everywhere else. i dont like it but ive learned to accept it. i label my ot posts regardless. rick heres the problem that i did not notice at first. my bad i suppose. these dudes think its cool to cross post to three usenet groups at once. rec.sport.football.college not sure why they need three groups to get their jollies. whatever. 8^ jan the gene pool could use a little chlorine. .