Dodge Ram Low Oil Pressure
From : rrr
Q: have a dodge with 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he saw sludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! .
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From : snoman
on tue 01 may 2007 095940 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote im serious thats what i run in my 318. anything less and the oil pressure drops to zero at idle. you either have a stuck relief valve a worn pump or seriously worn engine bearings. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : azwiley1
have a dodge with 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he saw sludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! no sure why they would flush and replace the radiator do you have a leak in the radiator that would be the only reason i could think of that would warrant a replacement. at 130k if you had regular services done you dont think you should have to rebuild or replace the engine. i had more then that on my ram when i traded it in with no problems. you could run a little atf through the oil and that would break down and get rid of some of your sludge which may/should help restore some oil pressure. .
From : beryl
rrr wrote have a dodge with 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he saw sludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! a switch to synthetic after 130k of pennzoil might have loosened accumulated crud. i once had a toyota that suffered recurring oil pressure and ticking problems beginning a couple weeks after i made the brilliant choice to treat the truck to some swell mobil 1 synthetic oil. theres a recent oil viscosity discussion that will show you the general quality of azwiley1s advice. -- reason and free inquiry are the only effective agents against error. - thomas jefferson .
From : beekeep
on 29 apr 2007 191655 -0700 rrr rachel@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have a dodge with 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he saw sludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! change the oil to 20w50. beekeep .
From : chris thompson
on sun 29 apr 2007 191655 -0700 rrr wrote have a dodge with 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he saw sludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! if there is sludge in the engine. then yes you can drop the pan replace the oil pump and pickup screen clean the pan out and put it back. but if you take this route you have to remember that there is sludge thought the rest of the engine and if it gets disturbed it breaks loose and comes down into the pan. heres your issue assuming there is sludge and i dont doubt it sludge breaks free from farther up in your engine washes down with your oil back into the oil pan where it floats around waiting to get sucked up by the oil pickup tube. now this tube is only so large and has a screen on it to keep stuff floating around in the pan like sludge from getting into the oil pump and stopping the whole works. now over time sludge will build up enough in the pan that when the pickup tube gets totally covered your oil pressure drops to zero as you have seen this of course means lack of lube. when you shut the truck off the sludge floats away thus the ability to start it back up with oil pressure in case you were wondering about that one. in my experience its best to replace a severely sludged engine because of all the stuff that can break loose and put you back in the same boat all over again. if its not that sludged up or you just cant afford to replace the engine yet then replacing the pump screen and cleaning the pan will buy you some time. the amount of time depends on how severe the sludge condition is inside your particular engine. also im not personally sold on engine flushes. im a bit of a skeptic when it comes to miracle in a bottle type stuff. that being said ive never disassembled a engine that has been flushed to see if it actually helped. so this is simply my skepticism talking. as far as replacing the radiator id have to know more of the story. like why does he want to replace the radiator does it have scale in it is it stopped up or is he just wanting to replace a good radiator while doing a engine swap as a precaution of some sort again ive always used the old radiators on my swaps as long as they passed the pressure tests and sown no leaks or clues to being stopped up before hand. -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : rrr
on apr 29 1016 pm rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! thanks for the info...we actually got info today that there are some metal shavings in the oil pan. the mechanic also noticed a bearing was loose. although the engine never stopped on us we are being told to replace it completely and that just changing out th pump and other will result in the same problem again soon. since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help! .
From : rrr
on apr 30 312 am beryl terra...@coolmail.com wrote rrr wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! a switch to synthetic after 130k of pennzoil might have loosened accumulated crud. i once had a toyota that suffered recurring oil pressure and ticking problems beginning a couple weeks after i made the brilliant choice to treat the truck to some swell mobil 1 synthetic oil. theres a recent oil viscosity discussion that will show you the general quality of azwiley1s advice. -- reason and free inquiry are the only effective agents against error. - thomas jefferson- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yep - that is the conclusion that i also came to about the loosened sludge. what i dont understand is why a mechanic did not know that when he changed over but everyone and their wife and secretary seems to know about this! very surprising and possibly worth some financial help on the new engine. but i am not gonna holf my breath! .
From : rrr
on apr 30 458 am hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote on 29 apr 2007 191655 -0700 rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! change the oil to 20w50. beekeep- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - gotcha - viscosity problems! .
From : snoman
on 30 apr 2007 120355 -0700 rrr rachel@sparkysdistribution.com wrote yep - that is the conclusion that i also came to about the loosened sludge. what i dont understand is why a mechanic did not know that when he changed over but everyone and their wife and secretary seems to know about this! very surprising and possibly worth some financial help on the new engine. but i am not gonna holf my breath! many people switch to syn oil on high mileage engines thinking it going to gven them a magical amount of extra life. their money and efforts would be better spent on keeping the engines diet the same and changing oil regularly like about every 3k or less if it get dirty quickly instead of changing to syn oil. it simply is not worth it economically nor worth the risk if engine oil has not been changed often enough and sludge has built up. i am not sure how many more will ruin their engine trying this convinced it is magical. when a engine get old it is not the time to change to a syn oil as it can cause problems of its own. also syn oil gets dirty just like conventional oil and in a older engine it get dirty faster and it is not the time to try to change to extended drian intervals btw i do have a 18 year old vehicle that uses syn oil but it has been using it since it had 5k miles on it and kinda as a long term test and not switched to it later in life. i might also say that so far the only real difference i have seen is maybe in extreme cold starting and not engine life because i have run engines past 200k several times just using regular oil changed every 3k miles or a bit more often when they get older. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : azwiley1
rrr wrote have a dodge with 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he saw sludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! a switch to synthetic after 130k of pennzoil might have loosened accumulated crud. i once had a toyota that suffered recurring oil pressure and ticking problems beginning a couple weeks after i made the brilliant choice to treat the truck to some swell mobil 1 synthetic oil. theres a recent oil viscosity discussion that will show you the general quality of azwiley1s advice. fuck you troll. .
From : beekeep
on 30 apr 2007 120036 -0700 rrr rachel@sparkysdistribution.com wrote since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help! you can change the oil with atf and let it idle for 15 min. then drain the atf change the filter and put in oil. run it for a week and change the oil and filter again. if you susspect gunk in the pan you can spray cleaner in through the oil drain hole using the little tube and get a lot of it out. try to get the pump pickup screen while your there. beekeep .
From : beekeep
on 30 apr 2007 120419 -0700 rrr rachel@sparkysdistribution.com wrote on apr 30 458 am hone...@radix.net beekeep wrote on 29 apr 2007 191655 -0700 rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! change the oil to 20w50. beekeep- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - gotcha - viscosity problems! im serious thats what i run in my 318. anything less and the oil pressure drops to zero at idle. beekeep .
From : tbone
this is starting to sound like a real scam to me. do you have the vehicle in the shop where did these shavings come from and how exactly did he see a loose bearing exactly what bearing did he see was loose i would put a can of motor flush in it follow the directions and see what happens. perhaps add a can of restore when putting in the new oil. a new motor is expensive and flushing it out is not. if it fails anyway then you lost about 50 bucks but if it holds and it probably will then you saved thousands. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on apr 29 1016 pm rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! thanks for the info...we actually got info today that there are some metal shavings in the oil pan. the mechanic also noticed a bearing was loose. although the engine never stopped on us we are being told to replace it completely and that just changing out th pump and other will result in the same problem again soon. since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help! .
From : azwiley1
on may 1 311 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is starting to sound like a real scam to me. do you have the vehicle in the shop where did these shavings come from and how exactly did he see a loose bearing exactly what bearing did he see was loose i would put a can of motor flush in it follow the directions and see what happens. perhaps add a can of restore when putting in the new oil. a new motor is expensive and flushing it out is not. if it fails anyway then you lost about 50 bucks but if it holds and it probably will then you saved thousands. -- on apr 29 1016 pm rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! thanks for the info...we actually got info today that there are some metal shavings in the oil pan. the mechanic also noticed a bearing was loose. although the engine never stopped on us we are being told to replace it completely and that just changing out th pump and other will result in the same problem again soon. since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help!- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - i would think that the better question to ask is if the vehicle is in a shop did they at least drop the oil pan to see this bearing i will go back to what i said in my very first reply run a quart of atf through the engine or as tbone said you can use a can of gunk motor flush before you allow them to do anymore work on your vehicle and cost you a lot of money that may not be necessary. or you can listen to the shop and to the troll barrel and ignore my advice as he has a woody for me and would rather post b.s. and try to start crap instead of of helping people. .
From : beekeep
on tue 01 may 2007 114915 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on tue 01 may 2007 095940 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote im serious thats what i run in my 318. anything less and the oil pressure drops to zero at idle. you either have a stuck relief valve a worn pump or seriously worn engine bearings. ----------------- thesnoman.com its been that way since i put the engine in 100k ago so its none of the above. its just the nature of that engine. beekeep .
From : rrr
on may 1 611 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is starting to sound like a real scam to me. do you have the vehicle in the shop where did these shavings come from and how exactly did he see a loose bearing exactly what bearing did he see was loose i would put a can of motor flush in it follow the directions and see what happens. perhaps add a can of restore when putting in the new oil. a new motor is expensive and flushing it out is not. if it fails anyway then you lost about 50 bucks but if it holds and it probably will then you saved thousands. -- on apr 29 1016 pm rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! thanks for the info...we actually got info today that there are some metal shavings in the oil pan. the mechanic also noticed a bearing was loose. although the engine never stopped on us we are being told to replace it completely and that just changing out th pump and other will result in the same problem again soon. since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help!- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - they said the bearing was a little loose. they said replacing all the parts in the engine would cost as much as replacing the engine. .
From : rrr
on may 1 650 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote on may 1 311 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is starting to sound like a real scam to me. do you have the vehicle in the shop where did these shavings come from and how exactly did he see a loose bearing exactly what bearing did he see was loose i would put a can of motor flush in it follow the directions and see what happens. perhaps add a can of restore when putting in the new oil. a new motor is expensive and flushing it out is not. if it fails anyway then you lost about 50 bucks but if it holds and it probably will then you saved thousands. -- on apr 29 1016 pm rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! thanks for the info...we actually got info today that there are some metal shavings in the oil pan. the mechanic also noticed a bearing was loose. although the engine never stopped on us we are being told to replace it completely and that just changing out th pump and other will result in the same problem again soon. since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help!- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - i would think that the better question to ask is if the vehicle is in a shop did they at least drop the oil pan to see this bearing i will go back to what i said in my very first reply run a quart of atf through the engine or as tbone said you can use a can of gunk motor flush before you allow them to do anymore work on your vehicle and cost you a lot of money that may not be necessary. or you can listen to the shop and to the troll barrel and ignore my advice as he has a woody for me and would rather post b.s. and try to start crap instead of of helping people.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - we moved to another shop and they also told us a bearing was loose. i am following you logic. not sure if i will need to replace the pump too. with no pressure would atf be ok to put in there or should i change the pump and filter first .
From : rrr
on apr 30 343 pm snoman a...@snoman.com wrote on 30 apr 2007 120355 -0700 rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote yep - that is the conclusion that i also came to about the loosened sludge. what i dont understand is why a mechanic did not know that when he changed over but everyone and their wife and secretary seems to know about this! very surprising and possibly worth some financial help on the new engine. but i am not gonna holf my breath! many people switch to syn oil on high mileage engines thinking it going to gven them a magical amount of extra life. their money and efforts would be better spent on keeping the engines diet the same and changing oil regularly like about every 3k or less if it get dirty quickly instead of changing to syn oil. it simply is not worth it economically nor worth the risk if engine oil has not been changed often enough and sludge has built up. i am not sure how many more will ruin their engine trying this convinced it is magical. when a engine get old it is not the time to change to a syn oil as it can cause problems of its own. also syn oil gets dirty just like conventional oil and in a older engine it get dirty faster and it is not the time to try to change to extended drian intervals btw i do have a 18 year old vehicle that uses syn oil but it has been using it since it had 5k miles on it and kinda as a long term test and not switched to it later in life. i might also say that so far the only real difference i have seen is maybe in extreme cold starting and not engine life because i have run engines past 200k several times just using regular oil changed every 3k miles or a bit more often when they get older. ----------------- thesnoman.com i have no idea why our mechanic changed to syn with our truck being as old as it is! so wild!! .
From : azwiley1
big snip we moved to another shop and they also told us a bearing was loose. i am following you logic. not sure if i will need to replace the pump too. with no pressure would atf be ok to put in there or should i change the pump and filter first again i personally would want to know exactly which bearing they are saying is loose and how they came to this determination. if the reason you have no pressure is because the pick up is blocked by sludge you would want to clear that first to prevent any further damage to the engine. also i would ensure that the 0 pressure is not just because the oil gauge on the dash say 0 you may actually have some that it is not registering. you may have done this already though so disregard if you did if you are getting oil to the top of the engine you should be ok to run the atf through it. do not run it for more then about 10 or 15 minutes just like the engine cleaners. .
From : snoman
on wed 02 may 2007 012645 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote you either have a stuck relief valve a worn pump or seriously worn engine bearings. ----------------- thesnoman.com its been that way since i put the engine in 100k ago so its none of the above. its just the nature of that engine. this in not normal nature for this engine because it means something was wrong when you put it in. it is a miracle that it has not had a rod bearing failure yet. it is one of the above including improperly sized engine bearings from start ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : snoman
on 1 may 2007 184526 -0700 rrr rachel@sparkysdistribution.com wrote i have no idea why our mechanic changed to syn with our truck being as old as it is! so wild!! he can charge more for changing it ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : tbone
on may 1 611 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is starting to sound like a real scam to me. do you have the vehicle in the shop where did these shavings come from and how exactly did he see a loose bearing exactly what bearing did he see was loose i would put a can of motor flush in it follow the directions and see what happens. perhaps add a can of restore when putting in the new oil. a new motor is expensive and flushing it out is not. if it fails anyway then you lost about 50 bucks but if it holds and it probably will then you saved thousands. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydivingrrr on apr 29 1016 pm rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! thanks for the info...we actually got info today that there are some metal shavings in the oil pan. the mechanic also noticed a bearing was loose. although the engine never stopped on us we are being told to replace it completely and that just changing out th pump and other will result in the same problem again soon. since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help!- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - they said the bearing was a little loose. they said replacing all the parts in the engine would cost as much as replacing the engine. what bearing and how do they know this there is no way to see a loose bearing. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
is the pressure still zero i thought that it cleared up after you shut it down. if the pressure is still zero then the blockage needs to be cleared enough to establish at least some flow for either trans fluid or motor flush to work. trans fluid is much thinner than motor oil and can get into places that motor oil cant but if the pump is completely blocked then it still will not flow. i would put a mechanical pressure gauge on it and make sure that there really is no pressure. unless the pump was damaged it just needs to be cleaned and the filter should be replaced as well. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on may 1 650 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote on may 1 311 pm tbone tbonenos...@nc.rr.com wrote this is starting to sound like a real scam to me. do you have the vehicle in the shop where did these shavings come from and how exactly did he see a loose bearing exactly what bearing did he see was loose i would put a can of motor flush in it follow the directions and see what happens. perhaps add a can of restore when putting in the new oil. a new motor is expensive and flushing it out is not. if it fails anyway then you lost about 50 bucks but if it holds and it probably will then you saved thousands. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydivingrrr on apr 29 1016 pm rrr rac...@sparkysdistribution.com wrote have adodgewith 130k miles. just had all new syn oil and lube done and was on the highway about 2 weeks later and the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero. the check engine light came on and we pulled over and checked oil. oil was full abd when we started we heard a light ticking sound. stopped again and the light went off and no sound but we were concerned. brought it into a mechanic and he said he sawsludge. told us he needs to replace the pump flush and replace the radiator and for 2200 it would be a temp patch. or we could replace the engine. anyone have any ideas on this one thanks for your help! thanks for the info...we actually got info today that there are some metal shavings in the oil pan. the mechanic also noticed a bearing was loose. although the engine never stopped on us we are being told to replace it completely and that just changing out th pump and other will result in the same problem again soon. since the engine never ceased in us is there anyway to just clean all of the sludge out and replace the pump and other and put a better oil and be ok. or do you pretty much just have to replace an engine once it has too much sludge even if it is still runs seems like that is what everyone has to do with this situation. its a pretty big bill for an older truck and we do use it for hauling heavy things but if we are gonna spend any money i want to make sure i dont overspend if it is not necessary but i dont want to crack the engine if i start pulling a trailer behind it. thanks again for the help!- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - i would think that the better question to ask is if the vehicle is in a shop did they at least drop the oil pan to see this bearing i will go back to what i said in my very first reply run a quart of atf through the engine or as tbone said you can use a can of gunk motor flush before you allow them to do anymore work on your vehicle and cost you a lot of money that may not be necessary. or you can listen to the shop and to the troll barrel and ignore my advice as he has a woody for me and would rather post b.s. and try to start crap instead of of helping people.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - we moved to another shop and they also told us a bearing was loose. i am following you logic. not sure if i will need to replace the pump too. with no pressure would atf be ok to put in there or should i change the pump and filter first .
From : beryl
beekeep wrote on tue 01 may 2007 114915 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on tue 01 may 2007 095940 gmt honeybs@radix.net beekeep wrote im serious thats what i run in my 318. anything less and the oil pressure drops to zero at idle. you either have a stuck relief valve a worn pump or seriously worn engine bearings. ----------------- thesnoman.com its been that way since i put the engine in 100k ago so its none of the above. its just the nature of that engine. beekeep mine with 50k miles and 10w-30 idles somewhere around 30-35 psi. -- reason and free inquiry are the only effective agents against error. - thomas jefferson .
From : tom lawrence
either that or im just showing my age - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wouldnt that depend on what year that transmission is and the op did not say my 79 used dextron ii and it specified a dextron type in the manual both the fsm and the owners. yeah... im stuck in post-90ish mode. .
From : rrr
on mon 04 jun 2007 140353 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on sun 03 jun 2007 133631 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote at least we didnt have the dump truck and whatever else tossed into the mix. i was just wondering if changing the gear ratios would make that electrolysis work........ no post here is complete without some of the main trolls weighing in. also someone eluded to perpetual motion when this did not really apply here. perpetual motion mean that once it is set in motion it will remain in motion until acted on my external force such as friction from bearings or drag from air or gas molecules or in the case of deep space travel gravity and solar wind too. deep space probes come very close to perpetual motion in application as do satellites in geosyncronized orbit. okay no time for inmature trolls to weigh in again to get their fix. ----------------- thesnoman.com you really have no shame do you no shame the idiot see nothing wrong with what he posts. .