Dodge Problems
From : n8dogg
Q: i have a 97 dodge ram 1500 sport 4x4 with a 360 5.9 liter. the other day my gen light came on and my voltage gauge is reading under 12 volts. i put a new alternator in and it didnt seem to fix the problem. i took it to a shop and that was just a screw job. they said i need to replace the alternator and the starter. i tried the whole removing of the battery cable and that killed the engine. ive heard that that trick doesnt work with the newer stuff but now im not sure. i just spent $200 on a alternator. can anyone help me i dont want to take it to another shop but i dont know what else to do. any info would be very helpful thanks nathan huber nathanhuber@pld.com .
Replies:
From : n8dogg
finally bit the bullet and took it to a dealer. looks like there is an alternator fuse that i couldnt find that went out. they had to order it and itll be here tomorrow. who knew that a fuse could cost $60 anyway i hope that is all they find since they have to fix that to move forward. thanks for all the input everyone. nate sorry but it does sound to me like the new alternator is not good either. cant they test it for you like autozone does it is true that you can damage your computer by pulling the battery cables off while the engine is running but if the engine also dies then i would suspect the alternator. heck take it off again and bring it in to autozone. they will check it for you free. i have a 97 dodge ram 1500 sport 4x4 with a 360 5.9 liter. the other day my gen light came on and my voltage gauge is reading under 12 volts. i put a new alternator in and it didnt seem to fix the problem. i took it to a shop and that was just a screw job. they said i need to replace the alternator and the starter. i tried the whole removing of the battery cable and that killed the engine. ive heard that that trick doesnt work with the newer stuff but now im not sure. i just spent $200 on a alternator. can anyone help me i dont want to take it to another shop but i dont know what else to do. any info would be very helpful thanks nathan huber nathanhuber@pld.com .
From : ninebal310
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From : sean prinz
try replacing the battery even if you just swap one in from another vehicle for a short time....it sounds like you have a shorted battery cell to me. sean n8dogg wrote thanks for the input but i took the new one back to murrays and they tested it and it tested good. my old one even tested good on their machine so i got my money back and reinstalled it. thats when i took it into a shop and they said my starter and the alternator. so i went to pep boys and got another new one and still doing the same thing. that means its probably not the alternator. im not sure on your 97 but on my 99 1500/5.2 the alternators field current alternators use an electromagnet to generate the magnetic field the device needs to generate the current requirements to maintain the desired charging voltage is controlled by the computer. the wiring between or the computer itself may have failed. also i believe there is a alt. field current or something similar fuse in the fuse box under the hood. check to see if its blown - but i may have this confused with my exploder. also i believe there is a temperature sensor under the battery tray on my 99. i believe that tells the computer the proper voltage to charge the battery at lead acid battery charge voltages vary from like 13.7v to 14.9v depending on the electrolite temperature and i have no idea what the failure mode if this sensor fails. try doing the on-off-on-off-on-off-on is that right to see if there are any stored codes - i think there are some alternated-related codes that will not throw the cel. good luck js .
From : yofuri
from yofuri make your own fusible links the link is four inches of wire four sizes smaller than the conductor that is four awg numbers higher. if the conductor is #10 the link is #14 etc. the connections should be crimped and i also flow rosin-core solder into the connectors. separate and secure the link so it wont melt its way into adjacent wiring or bundles when it melts. rick correct me if i am wrong but if the fusable link were bad the engine wouldnt start. right hank depends on which vehicle and which fusible link. i think its safe to say that generally but definitely not always that wiring is protected by fusible links; devices are protected by fuses or breakers. rick .
From : greg surratt
on wed 28 jul 2004 211728 -0700 yofuri yofuri@oakharbor.net wrote correct me if i am wrong but if the fusable link were bad the engine wouldnt start. right hank depends on which vehicle and which fusible link. i think its safe to say that generally but definitely not always that wiring is protected by fusible links; devices are protected by fuses or breakers. rick in a nutshell yes hank. what rick said - the fusible link will protect the starter circuit wiring before it melts from an overcurrent condition. once the link blows the circuit is broken and the vehicle wont start - if it is that particular fusible link. there are usually three or four in a vehicle protecting various wiring circuits - engine and starter lights etc etc. greg .
From : greg surratt
on 28 jul 2004 114322 gmt ninebal310@aol.committed ninebal310 wrote from n8dogg finally bit the bullet and took it to a dealer. looks like there is an alternator fuse that i couldnt find that went out. they had to order it and itll be here tomorrow. who knew that a fuse could cost $60 anyway i hope that is all they find since they have to fix that to move forward. thanks for all the input everyone. nate there is a fuseable link in the wire that runs from the igniton to the batt. i think. but your problem sounds like a bad ground wire. probably a ground from the batt to the engine block or frame or chassis to body. clean all the grounds your problem will be solved. hank and pull the negative battery cable and make sure you clean it good - if youve got corrosion down into the wires its a cheap fix to replace it. and yeah the fusible links are ridiculously expensive - $30 for the fusible link controlling the trailer wiring on mine. .
From : yofuri
make your own fusible links the link is four inches of wire four sizes smaller than the conductor that is four awg numbers higher. if the conductor is #10 the link is #14 etc. the connections should be crimped and i also flow rosin-core solder into the connectors. separate and secure the link so it wont melt its way into adjacent wiring or bundles when it melts. rick on 28 jul 2004 114322 gmt ninebal310@aol.committed ninebal310 wrote from n8dogg finally bit the bullet and took it to a dealer. looks like there is an alternator fuse that i couldnt find that went out. they had to order it and itll be here tomorrow. who knew that a fuse could cost $60 anyway i hope that is all they find since they have to fix that to move forward. thanks for all the input everyone. nate there is a fuseable link in the wire that runs from the igniton to the batt. i think. but your problem sounds like a bad ground wire. probably a ground from the batt to the engine block or frame or chassis to body. clean all the grounds your problem will be solved. hank and pull the negative battery cable and make sure you clean it good - if youve got corrosion down into the
From : ninebal310
from yofuri make your own fusible links the link is four inches of wire four sizes smaller than the conductor that is four awg numbers higher. if the conductor is #10 the link is #14 etc. the connections should be crimped and i also flow rosin-core solder into the connectors. separate and secure the link so it wont melt its way into adjacent wiring or bundles when it melts. rick correct me if i am wrong but if the fusable link were bad the engine wouldnt start. right hank .
From : james1549
one more thing on the alt.. are you getting battery voltage to the main wire on the alt the alt internal regulator needs to know battery voltage before it will begin charging. james .
From : dudlee brennfoerder
tell them to keep the fuse and go to a real auto parts store other than pb and az and buy one for $10.00 -- dudlee & debbie brennfoerder edgar ne 68935 finally bit the bullet and took it to a dealer. looks like there is an alternator fuse that i couldnt find that went out. they had to order it and itll be here tomorrow. who knew that a fuse could cost $60 anyway i hope that is all they find since they have to fix that to move forward. thanks for all the input everyone. nate sorry but it does sound to me like the new alternator is not good either. cant they test it for you like autozone does it is true that you can damage your computer by pulling the battery cables off while the engine is running but if the engine also dies then i would suspect the alternator. heck take it off again and bring it in to autozone. they will check it for you free. i have a 97 dodge ram 1500 sport 4x4 with a 360 5.9 liter. the other day my gen light came on and my voltage gauge is r
From : jacob suter
n8dogg wrote thanks for the input but i took the new one back to murrays and they tested it and it tested good. my old one even tested good on their machine so i got my money back and reinstalled it. thats when i took it into a shop and they said my starter and the alternator. so i went to pep boys and got another new one and still doing the same thing. that means its probably not the alternator. im not sure on your 97 but on my 99 1500/5.2 the alternators field current alternators use an electromagnet to generate the magnetic field the device needs to generate the current requirements to maintain the desired charging voltage is controlled by the computer. the wiring between or the computer itself may have failed. also i believe there is a alt. field current or something similar fuse in the fuse box under the hood. check to see if its blown - but i may have this confused with my exploder. also i believe there is a temperature sensor under the battery tray on my 99. i believe that tells the computer the proper voltage to charge the battery at lead acid battery charge voltages vary from like 13.7v to 14.9v depending on the electrolite temperature and i have no idea what the failure mode if this sensor fails. try doing the on-off-on-off-on-off-on is that right to see if there are any stored codes - i think there are some alternated-related codes that will not throw the cel. good luck js .
From : n8dogg
thanks for the input but i took the new one back to murrays and they tested it and it tested good. my old one even tested good on their machine so i got my money back and reinstalled it. thats when i took it into a shop and they said my starter and the alternator. so i went to pep boys and got another new one and still doing the same thing. that means its probably not the alternator. nate sorry but it does sound to me like the new alternator is not good either. cant they test it for you like autozone does it is true that you can damage your computer by pulling the battery cables off while the engine is running but if the engine also dies then i would suspect the alternator. heck take it off again and bring it in to autozone. they will check it for you free. i have a 97 dodge ram 1500 sport 4x4 with a 360 5.9 liter. the other day my gen light came on and my voltage gauge is reading under 12 volts. i put a new alternator in and it didnt seem to fix the problem. i took it to a shop and that was just a screw job. they said i need to replace the alternator and the starter. i tried the whole removing of the battery cable and that killed the engine. ive heard that that trick doesnt work with the newer stuff but now im not sure. i just spent $200 on a alternator. can anyone help me i dont want to take it to another shop but i dont know what else to do. any info would be very helpful thanks nathan huber nathanhuber@pld.com .
From : 55chevy210
sorry but it does sound to me like the new alternator is not good either. cant they test it for you like autozone does it is true that you can damage your computer by pulling the battery cables off while the engine is running but if the engine also dies then i would suspect the alternator. heck take it off again and bring it in to autozone. they will check it for you free. i have a 97 dodge ram 1500 sport 4x4 with a 360 5.9 liter. the other day my gen light came on and my voltage gauge is reading under 12 volts. i put a new alternator in and it didnt seem to fix the problem. i took it to a shop and that was just a screw job. they said i need to replace the alternator and the starter. i tried the whole removing of the battery cable and that killed the engine. ive heard that that trick doesnt work with the newer stuff but now im not sure. i just spent $200 on a alternator. can anyone help me i dont want to take it to another shop but i dont know what else to do. any info would be very helpful thanks nathan huber nathanhuber@pld.com .