Dodge LRT VIN swap --- on eBay
From : ron
Q: has anyone else noticed this dodge lrt on ebay with some kind of vin boondoggle http//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayisapi.dllviewitem&rd=11&item=4620648945&sspagename=strk%3amewa%3ait auction number 4620648945 is this thing legal .
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From : ron
geekboy wrote has anyone else noticed this dodge lrt on ebay with some kind of vin boondoggle http//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayisapi.dllviewitem&rd=11&item=4620648945&sspagename=strk%3amewa%3ait auction number 4620648945 is this thing legal so what is the problem the problem is that truck appears to be a re-bodied vehicle. that should not be confused with cloning a vehicle that would be advertised as such and not swapping vins. it would be like taking a 69 satellite and swapping the vin tag which is riveted to the dashboard with a 69 gtx thereby creating a gtx out a satellite. or how about switching vins and making a hemi cuda out of a slant six car that is illegal. why not email him and ask him there have been quite a number of e-mails pointing out the obvious problems. for starters the fact that lrts were only 78-79 trucks and the one on ebay appears to be at least an 81 or newer including the dashboard makes me believe that a vin tag was swapped. the seller got a wee bit hostile with a couple of e-mailers who pointed out these facts. some states will issue a new vin on a vehicle to comply with the 17 digit numbering system on the computer system software. where i live that truck could get someone into big trouble. .
From : ron
rachel easson wrote ron wrote has anyone else noticed this dodge lrt on ebay with some kind of vin boondoggle http//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayisapi.dllviewitem&rd=11&item=4620648945&sspagename=strk%3amewa%3ait auction number 4620648945 is this thing legal i think he needs to take it off and re-advertise correctly or he could be in trouble. depending on the state the vin issue and legally licensing it -- yes or no. not in quebec though -- it would go through a painful long process of becoming reassigned as a home-built with a new vin. looks a lot like my 81 ram on 77 frame with the grill from my 74 w100 pipes and oak. pretty though. i think he should go with his original idea use for the pizza joint. park it outside the place under high tarp-carport with triangular pizza sign on top and take it out for special occasions and weather permitting rach youre right rach the problem is with the probable vin tag swap. that makes it a re-bodied vehicle which is illegal. .
From : rachel easson
ron wrote has anyone else noticed this dodge lrt on ebay with some kind of vin boondoggle http//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayisapi.dllviewitem&rd=11&item=4620648945&sspagename=strk%3amewa%3ait auction number 4620648945 is this thing legal i think he needs to take it off and re-advertise correctly or he could be in trouble. depending on the state the vin issue and legally licensing it -- yes or no. not in quebec though -- it would go through a painful long process of becoming reassigned as a home-built with a new vin. looks a lot like my 81 ram on 77 frame with the grill from my 74 w100 pipes and oak. pretty though. i think he should go with his original idea use for the pizza joint. park it outside the place under high tarp-carport with triangular pizza sign on top and take it out for special occasions and weather permitting rach .
From : geekboy
has anyone else noticed this dodge lrt on ebay with some kind of vin boondoggle http//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayisapi.dllviewitem&rd=11&item=4620648945&sspagename=strk%3amewa%3ait auction number 4620648945 is this thing legal so what is the problem why not email him and ask him some states will issue a new vin on a vehicle to comply with the 17 digit numbering system on the computer system software. .
From : rachel easson
ron wrote geekboy wrote has anyone else noticed this dodge lrt on ebay with some kind of vin boondoggle http//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayisapi.dllviewitem&rd=11&item=4620648945&sspagename=strk%3amewa%3ait auction number 4620648945 is this thing legal so what is the problem snip there have been quite a number of e-mails pointing out the obvious problems. for starters the fact that lrts were only 78-79 trucks and the one on ebay appears to be at least an 81 or newer including the dashboard makes me believe that a vin tag was swapped. the seller got a wee bit hostile with a couple of e-mailers who pointed out these facts. yeah thats for sure. im not that good at spotting things but i also thought that the dash was too young and if the vin is on this dash it is not on the dash it originally came from which is the definition of swapping vins i think. no wonder he was hostile! rach .
From : ken day
on wed 15 mar 2006 025925 gmt ron avenge@netscape.net wrote has anyone else noticed this dodge lrt on ebay with some kind of vin boondoggle http//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayisapi.dllviewitem&rd=11&item=4620648945&sspagename=strk%3amewa%3ait auction number 4620648945 is this thing legal dont know about the vin but its not a lrt for sure. my good friend has one that he bought new and i know if from one end to the other. it actually looks better now than when he bought it imo. this one is not what he says. the grille is wrong dash is wrong headlights and even the body itself is wrong. i didnt bother to look any further. im not sure what it is since i dont know dodge trucks that well. i do know my friends lrt very well and this aint one. ken .
From : rcsnyder
the seller has become quite indignant in his defense of this truck. all attempts to help him understand the reality of his situation have been disregarded and hes setting himself up for real problems if he doesnt get smart soon. this truck is the same truck that was listed on ebay several yars ago by a used car dealer. that seller had the good sense to pull the auction when he found out that what he really had...or didnt have. the tone of this sellers responses to me and others suggests hes not so inclined. as for authenticity it may actually be a 79 lrt frame that has been rebodied but were talking about a complete cab and powertrain replacement in this case and not just a front clip. the cab is not from a 79 and lrts did not come with manual transmissions more on that in a minute. so the title could have been reconstructed using a dead vin from the lrt series but this aint no lrt. every state would have a different opinion on the legality of this vehicle. i just know that fraud in the $4-5k range is not petty theft and a written record of authenticity concerns has already been created which could be very harmful in court. about the manual transmission statement in 1979 my father was a salesman at jack lowery dodge in jersey shore pa. he delivered a 4-speed lrt to a customer while there. the truck had been a spec
From : ron
rcsnyder wrote the seller has become quite indignant in his defense of this truck. all attempts to help him understand the reality of his situation have been disregarded and hes setting himself up for real problems if he doesnt get smart soon. this truck is the same truck that was listed on ebay several yars ago by a used car dealer. that seller had the good sense to pull the auction when he found out that what he really had...or didnt have. the tone of this sellers responses to me and others suggests hes not so inclined. as for authenticity it may actually be a 79 lrt frame that has been rebodied but were talking about a complete cab and powertrain replacement in this case and not just a front clip. the cab is not from a 79 and lrts did not come with manual transmissions more on that in a minute. so the title could have been reconstructed using a dead vin from the lrt series but this aint no lrt. every state would have a different opinion on the legality of this vehicle. i just know that fraud in the $4-5k range is not petty theft and a written record of authenticity concerns has already been created which could be very harmful in court. about the manual transmission statement in 1979 my father was a salesman at jack lowery dodge in jersey shore pa. he delivered a 4-speed lrt to a customer while there. the truck had been a special order by lee iacocca for his nephew in the nazareth pa area. it was delivered to the wrong dealership - actually showing up in the incoming vehicles listing at both dealers - and delivered to an awaiting customer the day it arrived in jersey shore. two things make it memorable 1 several phone calls came in the next day looking for the mis-delivered truck. the jersey shore customer had no intention of letting go of the truck hed waited several weeks to to get. 2 the buyer wrecked the truck within two weeks and came back in for another lrt this time one with an automatic transmission. bob liberty mo oh boy i would have given my left eye tooth for that 4 speed lrt. i remember looking at several of these lrts when they were new at the dealers. back in the day i was stuck on owning 4 speeds and didnt buy a lrt because of the non availability of a stick stupid me. i wonder whatever became of that wrecked stick shift lrt imagine the value of that truck today. thanks for the excellent story bob. .