Diesel prices dropping
From : geekboy
Q: anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper so for a while i am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. how smug. .
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From : craig c
geekboy wrote anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. your guess is as good as mine. however i believe that we will see this trend continue. although current gasoline demand is three times higher than diesel the diesel demand is growing at *twice* the rate of gasoline. refineries are trying to prepare themselves for the future. the current prices may be a result of increased diesel refining. here is an article i read in the chicago tribune http//www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0704060318apr0702814321.storytrack=rss personally i still prefer bio-diesel. much cleaner ... and towel-heads dont get any of my money ... craig c. .
From : roy
anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper so for a while i am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. how smug. last year you wouldnt have been so smug. gas was cheaper. now that i think about it has diesel dropped that much from last year thinking about it diesel was at about the price gas is this year. .
From : snoman
on tue 08 may 2007 172433 gmt craig c. mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote your guess is as good as mine. however i believe that we will see this trend continue. do not get your hopes up. it was a mild winter tempature wise on the average for nation so heating oil demand was lower this winter which is also number 2 and it can fall a bit a few months after winter but rest assured that it will climb back up withing a few months and skyrocket this winter regardless of what gas does. this past winter we averaged 1.95 to 2.10 for gas and diesel was 2.69 to 2.99. diesel will never stay cheap relative to gas for any long period of time again. i have heated with oil for over 30 years so i have been buying diesel so to speak longer than many others. up until about 4 years ago i could always get oil cheap in august when there was a surplus and some distributors would lock in price for whole month i have paided as little as 39 cents a gallon. price shot up several years ago and you can no longer count on august oe any other month to be lowest anymore. right now 2007 winter futures has diesel between 2.75 and 3 bucks a gallon after taxes. i expect it to exceed 3 bucks easily this winter. buying several hundred gallons at once is a bit painfull when heating oil is 2.50 a gallon and more. last october i managed to buy some for 2.09/gal which was a deal by todays standards. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : tbone
it will last the summer as demand for it is much lower then unless of course too many people start buying diesel powered vehicles which will increase both demand and the price. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper so for a while i am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. how smug. .
From : chris thompson
on tue 08 may 2007 120605 -0500 geekboy wrote anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper so for a while i am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. how smug. funny thing around here is the diesel price hasnt moved....it seems to be the gasoline price that has jumped way up. my wifes observation that i cant argue with cause i havent payed that close of attention to gasoline prices -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : tbone
it will last the summer as demand for it is much lower then unless of course too many people start buying diesel powered vehicles which will increase both demand and the price. fascinating prognostication carnac. tell me - where in the sky will the sun appear tomorrow morning i normally charge for such information but for you..... i predict that the sun will appear in the eastern horizon. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : steve b
geekboy geeekguy@yeehaw.com wrote the prices here waited till gasoline rose then diesel rose along with it for a few days then dropped. i can get #2 diesel at murphey usa/wal-mart for $2.51.9 while gasonline remains in the $2.7x range las vegas unleaded $3.21 diesel $2.99 california near $4 .
From : geekboy
on tue 08 may 2007 120605 -0500 geekboy wrote anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper so for a while i am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. how smug. funny thing around here is the diesel price hasnt moved....it seems to be the gasoline price that has jumped way up. my wifes observation that i cant argue with cause i havent payed that close of attention to gasoline prices the prices here waited till gasoline rose then diesel rose along with it for a few days then dropped. i can get #2 diesel at murphey usa/wal-mart for $2.51.9 while gasonline remains in the $2.7x range -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd .
From : geekboy
anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper so for a while i am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. how smug. last year you wouldnt have been so smug. gas was cheaper. now that i think about it has diesel dropped that much from last year thinking about it diesel was at about the price gas is this year. yes and was the same price as unleaded plus but i was still getting ahead with more btus .
From : geekboy
geekboy wrote anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. your guess is as good as mine. however i believe that we will see this trend continue. although current gasoline demand is three times higher than diesel the diesel demand is growing at *twice* the rate of gasoline. refineries are trying to prepare themselves for the future. the current prices may be a result of increased diesel refining. here is an article i read in the chicago tribune interesting story. i recall reading how in europe 50% of oil refined is diesel 25% gasoline while in the us its 50% gasoline 25% diesel. looks like they may be changing it to to get equal amounts of fuel which hopefully keep prices down. http//www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0704060318apr0702814321.storytrack=rss personally i still prefer bio-diesel. much cleaner ... and towel-heads dont get any of my money ... true..but at this time i temporarily live in an apartment and no real place to brew the stuff. though i could proably do it here since its a small place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has to. craig c. .
From : geekboy
on tue 08 may 2007 172433 gmt craig c. mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote your guess is as good as mine. however i believe that we will see this trend continue. do not get your hopes up. it was a mild winter tempature wise on the average for nation so heating oil demand was lower this winter which is also number 2 and it can fall a bit a few months after winter but rest assured that it will climb back up withing a few months and huh i seem to recall massive blizzards locking in people for days. skyrocket this winter regardless of what gas does. this past winter we averaged 1.95 to 2.10 for gas and diesel was 2.69 to 2.99. diesel will never stay cheap relative to gas for any long period of time again. i have heated with oil for over 30 years so i have been buying diesel so to speak longer than many others. up until about 4 years ago i could always get oil cheap in august when there was a surplus and some distributors would lock in price for whole month i have paided as little as 39 cents a gallon. price shot up several years ago and you can no longer count on august oe any other month to be lowest anymore. right now 2007 winter futures has diesel between 2.75 and 3 bucks a gallon after taxes. i expect it to exceed 3 bucks easily this winter. buying several hundred gallons at once is a bit painfull when heating oil is 2.50 a gallon and more. last october i managed to buy some for 2.09/gal which was a deal by todays standards. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : craig c
geekboy wrote interesting story. i recall reading how in europe 50% of oil refined is diesel 25% gasoline while in the us its 50% gasoline 25% diesel. my experience would suggest that this is true. i spent quite a bit of time in the uk last year. the *majority* of the passenger cars and trucks i saw and rode in were diesel. the car i had rented was a citroen c3. diesel powered 5 speed. got about 60 mpg if memory serves. true..but at this time i temporarily live in an apartment and no real place to brew the stuff. though i could proably do it here since its a small place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has to. nah ... dont brew your own unless you have the room. you can by it pre-brewed. i purchase mine from loves truck stops. some of them carry biowillie. i have also seen an exxon station advertise b20 although i dont know their source of bio. biowillie is supposedly soybean bio the best imho. http//www.biowillieusa.com/ craig c. .
From : nosey
personally i still prefer bio-diesel. much cleaner ... and towel-heads dont get any of my money ... true..but at this time i temporarily live in an apartment and no real place to brew the stuff. though i could proably do it here since its a small place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has to. i make my own biodiesel and i wouldnt do it in an apartment. where do you live there may be a biodiesel co-op in your area. see http//biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/698605551 -- ken .
From : snoman
on wed 9 may 2007 132025 -0500 geekboy geeekguy@yeehaw.com wrote huh i seem to recall massive blizzards locking in people for days. there was in a few areas but as a whole it was not a cold winter in northeast long term and overall demand for season was down below expectations. the rockies area around denver does notuse much heating oil so cold there does not have much effect on prices of fuel oil had it been a early cold and long winter deisel would have hit 3.50 to 4.00/gallon last winter. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : geekboy
geekboy geeekguy@yeehaw.com wrote the prices here waited till gasoline rose then diesel rose along with it for a few days then dropped. i can get #2 diesel at murphey usa/wal-mart for $2.51.9 while gasonline remains in the $2.7x range las vegas unleaded $3.21 diesel $2.99 california near $4 part of the reason for cheap fuel prices where i am at is due to closeness of mexico. just run across the border for fuel under $2 a gallon. for most vehicles with only 15 gallon fuel tank that not be worth it but in my case with 55 gallons certainly worth it. .
From : bob
geekboy wrote anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline to wonder how long this will last. now who was saying having gasonline engine is cheaper so for a while i am getting cheaper fuel with more energy content. how smug. not round here - central co and southern wy. diesel seems to have remained about the same. gasoline has risen to about that price. -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : geekboy
personally i still prefer bio-diesel. much cleaner ... and towel-heads dont get any of my money ... true..but at this time i temporarily live in an apartment and no real place to brew the stuff. though i could proably do it here since its a small place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has to. i make my own biodiesel and i wouldnt do it in an apartment. where do you live there may be a biodiesel co-op in your area. see http//biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/cfrm/f/698605551 thanks for the link. no groups here as i suspected though i did see someone interested in it from 2002 maybe moved away and 2006. i would not be making it in the apartment but behind it.. -- ken .
From : beekeep
on tue 08 may 2007 183402 gmt snoman admin@snoman.com wrote on tue 08 may 2007 172433 gmt craig c. mcraigchr@gmail.com wrote your guess is as good as mine. however i believe that we will see this trend continue. do not get your hopes up. it was a mild winter tempature wise on the average for nation so heating oil demand was lower this winter which is also number 2 and it can fall a bit a few months after winter but rest assured that it will climb back up withing a few months and skyrocket this winter regardless of what gas does. this past winter we averaged 1.95 to 2.10 for gas and diesel was 2.69 to 2.99. diesel will never stay cheap relative to gas for any long period of time again. i have heated with oil for over 30 years so i have been buying diesel so to speak longer than many others. up until about 4 years ago i could always get oil cheap in august when there was a surplus and some distributors would lock in price for whole month i have paided as little as 39 cents a gallon. price shot up several years ago and you can no longer count on august oe any other month to be lowest anymore. right now 2007 winter futures has diesel between 2.75 and 3 bucks a gallon after taxes. i expect it to exceed 3 bucks easily this winter. buying several hundred gallons at once is a bit painfull when heating oil is 2.50 a gallon and more. last october i managed to buy some for 2.09/gal which was a deal by todays standards. ----------------- thesnoman.com i guess your just a baby. i can remember $0.17 a gallon! beekeep .
From : tom lawrence
it will last the summer as demand for it is much lower then unless of course too many people start buying diesel powered vehicles which will increase both demand and the price. fascinating prognostication carnac. tell me - where in the sky will the sun appear tomorrow morning .
From : tbone
sorry tom he beat your countdown by a few minuets. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline queue the sno-troll in 3... 2... 1... .
From : miles
tom lawrence wrote fascinating prognostication carnac. tell me - where in the sky will the sun appear tomorrow morning i have no idea where you live but i will predict your weather. it will be increasing darkness by nightfall and gradually becoming lighter by morning. .
From : tom lawrence
anyone notice that diesel is now twenty cents a gallon cheaper than gasonline queue the sno-troll in 3... 2... 1... .
From : geekboy
geekboy wrote interesting story. i recall reading how in europe 50% of oil refined is diesel 25% gasoline while in the us its 50% gasoline 25% diesel. my experience would suggest that this is true. i spent quite a bit of time in the uk last year. the *majority* of the passenger cars and trucks i saw and rode in were diesel. the car i had rented was a citroen c3. diesel powered 5 speed. got about 60 mpg if memory serves. last time i was in europe the cars were still spewing out lead. since the fuels started getting heavily taxed i can see why they switched. true..but at this time i temporarily live in an apartment and no real place to brew the stuff. though i could proably do it here since its a small place and owner never comes here for anything unless he has to. nah ... dont brew your own unless you have the room. you can by it pre-brewed. i purchase mine from loves truck stops. some of them carry biowillie. i have also seen an exxon station advertise b20 although i dont know their source of bio. biowillie is supposedly soybean bio the best imho. http//www.biowillieusa.com/ been to those places. not all places have it all the time. though the loves near dallas does. i recall pulling in to buy some last year. 10 lanes and 5 were biowillie. when i pulled in i was the only one there. by the time i pulled out the dino diesel lanes were full with trucks in waiting. that was the first time i put it in my truck. now i see why the avoided it. mpg decreased by 1 mpg however i saw a magazine article from 2 months ago. one of those diesel pickup truck mags. the showed some study that was done that showed torque increase with biodiesel. craig c. .
From : ed h
central coast of california where the prices are usually higher than what i hear on the radio as being the highest usually hawaii reg. unleaded $3.499 paid today diesel -about $3 ive seen some gas stations upto $3.64 for reg. unleaded. i dont pay much attention to diesel cost except as a curiosity. a co-worker has a diesel chevy with a 34 gal. tank and 105 gal. transfer tank in the bed. he lives in oregon works a week on/week off schedule and doesnt buy diesel in ca because he can make the round trip with what he carries. anyway yesterday he said its about $2.50 in oregon. geekboy geeekguy@yeehaw.com wrote the prices here waited till gasoline rose then diesel rose along with it for a few days then dropped. i can get #2 diesel at murphey usa/wal-mart for $2.51.9 while gasonline remains in the $2.7x range las vegas unleaded $3.21 diesel $2.99 california near $4 .