Diesel Fuel Prices

From : Annonymous

Q: $2.33-$2.48 is the lowest price here in ut. havent seen diesel fuel drop at all. hi all i found this article today ... 5/10/2005. according to the article we should have started to see drops in diesel fuel pricing 2 weeks ago. its the same here in north dallas. i pay $2.28 and have been for 6-8 weeks. anyone seeing a change yet http//fleetowner.com//dieselpriceenergy041205/ craig c. .

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From : tbone

check the vent lines at the top of the tank. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i have a 1989 dodge ramcharger 4wd 5.9l . . . near the rear of the vehicle i often detect a faint odor of fuel but no matter how hard i look ill be damned if i can find a leak! has anyone on the list had a similar problem found a cure l8r jdr .

From : christopher thompson

i need to change u-joints on the front axles of my 94 ram 1500. does anyone know what size the hub nut is can the hub and bearing be removed with the axle eliminating the problem of removing the hub nut if not how do you break the nut loose any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!!! dan .

From : tbone

look @ the fuel return line hose entering the tank.also check the fuel filler gasket into the tank long shot. my 85 4 door duelly started leaking @ the return line a few months agobut it shouldits got 566k miles and lives in texas. i have a 1989 dodge ramcharger 4wd 5.9l . . . near the rear of the vehicle i often detect a faint odor of fuel but no matter how hard i look ill be damned if i can find a leak! has anyone on the list had a similar problem found a cure l8r jdr .

From : tbone

trey wrote op said he wanted truck for occasional weekend use trips to the airport. doesnt need 4wd for that. what if he needs to pull a loaded grain wagon out of the field and plow snow thats laying on top of an inch of ice on the way to the airport i the old j20 i have started life as a farm truck with my father inlaw and was used to pull grain wagons and trailers weighing up to 23000lbs out of the field and it has no locking diffs and i bought it off of him 16 years ago when he bought a new truck also with open diffs. i pushed snow with it for over 11 years in all kinds of conditon including a blizzard once and never got stuck in all those years. i also have a 2000 k3500 with open diffs that has been stuck twice once when it slipped of of a lane with all tires slipping and once on a country lane and when it did all 4 tires spun on the icy under snow and a locker would not have done anything. i pulled it out with the j20 with its open axles. if you really want good preformance on thick ice you need studded tires or chians and some weight not a locker because you want positive directional control with no fishtailing which a locker will do on ice most of the time. i run 4 studded tires on one of my trucks and it is nice in ice especailly when transporting or speading salt on ice coverd lots directional control is paramount when plowing snow. i plan to restore j20 someday as itis now retired to sitting in barn though it still runs well. when i meet my wife i had a 72 3/4 t gmc with a 4 speed and open diffs and we used to have contests to see who could pull the biggest loads out of field and up to mill. it was about a draw. after he sold his 3 year old 2wd ford with a locker and got the j20 when he or i would get bogged down we were spinning all 4 tires and we could disconect and drive away and use a tractor to pull out wagons that were sunk in too deep to pull out with truck. when i ran with 3 to 4000lbs of grain in bed it never got hung up and rarely did without it. there are some instances where a locker will help but it is not the must have that some make it out to be with a 4x4 and if i bought a new 4x4 plow truck tomorrow it would have open diffs. with a 2wd a locker does tend to be more helpful sometimes. sure a locker is not 100% required but there are some areas i have taken my truck where i had a wheel in the air and the other three on the ground. the adjacent tire would just spin. i also know that in the rain the limited slip in my truck makes the truck fishtail a lot quicker then an open diff. a friend of mine was parked on the side of the road in his 4x4 excursion. the two driver side wheels were on pavement and the passenger side wheel were in the dirt/mud. he put it in 4wd and the passenger side tires just kept spinning and didnt go anywhere. i guess if you have enough weight to overcome any traction issues with the hp output then the locking diff would not be all that helpful. .

From : miles

you can save a bundle if you dont have a need for 4wd and buy 2wd. slight improvement on gas mileage too all other factors being equal. if you can turn a wrench to do repairs as needed i suggest you go with the more comfortable and affordable chev. no wrote ok - i am looking for a pickup. just for weekend use and occasional commutes to airport and as a second vehicle when my primary is unavailable. ok i was looking to spend as minimal of an amount as possible. i found this - a dodge 2002 1500 quad cab 4. engine 4wd 5 speed mt. 26k miles. $16000. more than i wanted to spend but a nice truck. before i saw this one i was looking at a chevy 1997 ext cab 4x4 154k miles for $7500. pros on chevy - price ext cab not quad cab automatic power locks. cons - high mileage. pros on dodge - only 25k miles. cons - steel wheels look ugly no power locks or windows price. hmmm - what to do i do not like payments and i do not have 16k cash. i do not have $7500 cash either but am closer depending what my 1995 contour sells for. anyone interested .

From : miles

well look what i found... http//home.earthlink.net/tlawrence53/vacuumlines.jpg shoot me your mailing address in an e-mail and ill get this on its way to you monday. awesome i really appreciate it tom! pretty simple - whiteys 4x4 posi-lok. a brief search and i was able to come up with this http//4x4posi-lok.com/ doesnt look to bad i think ill order one should i end up keeping the 01. -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .

From : miles

ok - i am looking for a pickup. just for weekend use and occasional commutes to airport and as a second vehicle when my primary is unavailable. ok i was looking to spend as minimal of an amount as possible. i found this - a dodge 2002 1500 quad cab 4. engine 4wd 5 speed mt. 26k miles. $16000. more than i wanted to spend but a nice truck. before i saw this one i was looking at a chevy 1997 ext cab 4x4 154k miles for $7500. pros on chevy - price ext cab not quad cab automatic power locks. cons - high mileage. pros on dodge - only 25k miles. cons - steel wheels look ugly no power locks or windows price. hmmm - what to do i do not like payments and i do not have 16k cash. i do not have $7500 cash either but am closer depending what my 1995 contour sells for. anyone interested .

From : miles

suddenly without warning ccole@quixnet.net exclaimed 5/22/2005 909 pm sounds like your dogs are seriously bored. thats the problem with smart dogs - if theres nothing to do they invent stuff. usually destructive. agreed. trouble is they seem to prefer wires and hoses to the chew toys we buy. - are you going to train them for something we bought them as family pets but will be training them to hunt cats when the season opens. had an aussie once that liked to *herd* cats...also small children and the neighbors guineas... cricket -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com yea ive known both aussies and border collies thatll heard anything that moves. but i bet the cats are a real challenge! http//www.jodi.ws/downloads/edscatherdinglow.mpg jmc .

From : miles

1985 dodge ramcharger 4x4 prospector. 318 v8 140 k miles runs great 31 off road tires looks good. $1000 northeast ohio must sell!!!!!!!! please respond with email or phone only at 330-240-6671 .

From : tbone

same problem with my 85 ramcharger for the longest time i just couldnt find the damn leak so finally i dropped the tank and there it was right on top .

From : tbone

sounds like your dogs are seriously bored. thats the problem with smart dogs - if theres nothing to do they invent stuff. usually destructive. agreed. trouble is they seem to prefer wires and hoses to the chew toys we buy. - are you going to train them for something we bought them as family pets but will be training them to hunt cats when the season opens. had an aussie once that liked to *herd* cats...also small children and the neighbors guineas... cricket -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .

From : tbone

tbone wrote lol that is the idea of a global market miles. if the demand drops somewhere the price drops everywhere. btw i never said that the consumption drop had to occur in the us to effect the price only that since we use so much that we can have the greatest effect. i suppose we can but the usa is not the reason for oil prices climbing rapidly nor is it the reason theyre falling a bit. rapid demand for oil primarily in china is why oil prices skyrocketed. now do you know why prices have now fallen a bit conservation hardly. you keep flapping your lips but i have yet to see any facts come out. if you know a different reason then lets hear it with some facts to back it up for a change. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

why -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving unless youre a youngster you dont want a standard rt .

From : tbone

unless youre a youngster you dont want a standard rt .

From : tbone

tbone wrote you do know what sweet crude is dont you it does not have to be sweet crude to make gasoline and sweet crude can be used for other things besides gas. how much oil does the usa import from canada what type of oil is it whats it primarily used for the answers are pretty much the same as that of alaskan oil. your statement that since alaskan oil isnt sweet crude therefore its worthless makes no sense. it makes perfect sense you are just not bright enough to understand it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote lol that is the idea of a global market miles. if the demand drops somewhere the price drops everywhere. btw i never said that the consumption drop had to occur in the us to effect the price only that since we use so much that we can have the greatest effect. i suppose we can but the usa is not the reason for oil prices climbing rapidly nor is it the reason theyre falling a bit. rapid demand for oil primarily in china is why oil prices skyrocketed. now do you know why prices have now fallen a bit conservation hardly. .

From : miles

tbone wrote lol if they went down then they were lowered any way that you try to spin it. the fact is that the price of oil is going down as you have said and the reason is higher than expected inventories even though we are going into the peak driving season and there is a higher demand for fuel for yard maintenance equipment as well. here you go again thinking that a slight drop in usa gas consumption is why global oil prices are dropping. lol that is the idea of a global market miles. if the demand drops somewhere the price drops everywhere. btw i never said that the consumption drop had to occur in the us to effect the price only that since we use so much that we can have the greatest effect. wait a sec here you said oil prices have stayed right around $50 now you say they are dropping youll argue either side of a case if it fits your warped mind. funny how you accuse me of exactly what you are doing. is this your way of throwing people off lol the thing is miles you have said that the oil companies cannot control the price and that conservation will have no effect on the price of fuel. yet the price of fuel has skyrocketed in the past claimed demand exceeding supply and is now falling significantly in many areas when it should be seasonally rising. this clearly indicates that either production has increased consumption has reduced conservation or that the oil companies are manipulating the price. since the refineries are already at max output the supposed reason for the steep price increases to begin with increased production is obviously not the reason for the price drop which leaves price manipulation and conservation as the only possible reasons and yet you say that it can be neither when actually it is probably a little of both. talk about a warped mind. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote lol if they went down then they were lowered any way that you try to spin it. the fact is that the price of oil is going down as you have said and the reason is higher than expected inventories even though we are going into the peak driving season and there is a higher demand for fuel for yard maintenance equipment as well. here you go again thinking that a slight drop in usa gas consumption is why global oil prices are dropping. wait a sec here you said oil prices have stayed right around $50 now you say they are dropping youll argue either side of a case if it fits your warped mind. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote you do know what sweet crude is dont you it does not have to be sweet crude to make gasoline and sweet crude can be used for other things besides gas. how much oil does the usa import from canada what type of oil is it whats it primarily used for the answers are pretty much the same as that of alaskan oil. your statement that since alaskan oil isnt sweet crude therefore its worthless makes no sense. .

From : miles

i finally had someone coming to buy my 01.5 cummins 4x4 quad cab http//utilityoffroad.com/dodge and he brought cash. we got in it to take a test drive and the 4x4 light kept blinking. scared of buying a lemon the buyer walked. - i get the truck back home and start looking and found that my damn dogs 5 month old austrailian shepherd breeder pairhad chewed up the black and red vacuum hoses that engage the front drive see http//7slotgrille.com/images/forumpics/fds.jpg for the picture. any idea what im looking at here how much for the oem replacement hoses can i just buy the hoses any reason why generic hose from an autoparts store wouldnt work what is the exact name of this part im beginning to think that fate is trying to tell me not to sell this truck! thanks -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .

From : miles

tbone wrote well then miles if this is true then it more than proves my point that conservation is the answer. gas prices here have dropped close to 20 cents a gallon in some areas and if demand has not gone up... 20 cents from what point you seem to be happy it dropped 20 cents even though it went up 50 prior to that. you think conservation is whats lowered gas prices too bad they really havent lowerd. just down from a level well above the mean. lol sorry miles but as we have already discussed these current hybrids are the foundation for tomorrows possible fuel cell vehicles. hybrid technology will contribute little to other possible fuel sources. plus its expensive heavy bulky etc. now if you really think that they have done nothing else lets see a little of that proof im supposed to prove what they havent done there goes your old case of reverse scrambled logic!! .

From : miles

for sale 1980 dodge truck cab. comes with rolling chassis consisting of; engine trans frame...etc. it has surface rust only the engine is a slant six 727 trans surprisingly enough standard cab not club or crew clean enough im just so close to ripping it off and swapping the one i -just- fixed for it... its just that nice. ill be including the column seat..seat belts.. i wanted the truck for parts turned out that i stole it for what the parts are worth. the cab i hunted down and had to repair i paid $650 for and this one id want to say is worth $800. the paint color is ginger which is in perfect shape ecept for some very minor surface rust and maybe a couple minor but very fixable dents in the roof. i dont want to take it off the frame because even the rockers which as anyone knows are usually rusty well theyre clean. cab supports are solid this thing got the full rust proofing treatment. where the cab light wires run the wires are still wrapped and in excellent shape. so while i would be selling this for the cab and all you can get a strong running slant 6 727 and everything to do with the frame for the price of the cab. wish id found this months ago..would have had my truck running and on the road by now dammit.. ah well i got the parts i needed.. hell ill even throw in the hood just get it out of here...think im asking too much try finding a rust free cab you dont have to fix in new england! this was a very well taken care of farm truck that had been sitting and rather than see it go to hell they decided to sell it and ive thanked the former owner repeatedly already. if nobody grabs this it will go to a bone yard where theyll sell just the cab for what i ask.. you can come drive the dang thing on the trailer to see how good the motor is..fires right up. i drove it home after dumping $5 in the tank. doesnt care if you wanna go up hills it still pulls like a bastard i was shocked... never saw a 727 behind a slant six knew they were around but hell far as i know theyre rare. might even be a lockup being 79/80 truck. 3.21 gears if you ask. no not limited slip..else that rear would get plucked. frame is okay but suffered a bit from salt after the rear spring mounts. again fixable if you have time nothing to do with suspension or it carrying weight just the part where the bumper mounts to is rusted through repair with welding and youre good. i didnt expect this much from a 24 year old truck. anyone needing frame wiring yeah thats good too no splices so far as ive seen. no i will not sell other than as an all in one deal..buy it you do what you want.. i have the title for it as well of course. also found the last registration too. sorry for being so long but im just that happy to have found all my parts and be able to turn around and sell something from this for profit for a change. .

From : tbone

ms networking dude wrote .bob wrote the ram uses the same corporate 9. rear that my dakota has. no big deal. limited slip differential lsd is a factory option and has been just about forever. adding lsd is a pretty simple operation for a competent diff shop. if youre using it mostly for street snow boat ramps fire roads etc the lsd will be your best choice. if you do serious off roading and never see snow/ice covered roadways you should consider something stronger. so it is the exact same interesting. one guy at the dealer was the one that told me the whole housing needs to be changed due to the axles being different etc. now if thats not really needed ill just order it from parts and have it swapped out. yup its exactly the same housing axles etc. find a competent diff shop in your area and go talk to them. no serious off roading. if i was going to do that i think i would have gone for the power wagon i think thats their beefy off-road truck. i just wanted the limited slip for snow/ice etc driving maybe even putting a plow on it. i used to snow plow years ago for a company i worked for. the truck had a limited slip in it and never got stuck once. i have limited slip on mine. in snow and ice it drives like a champ. never once even came close to getting stuck. also nomenclature has some people a little confused. dodge calls their version lsd limited slip differential. chevy calls theirs positraction aka posi. ford has another name for theirs that i cant recall at the moment. all of these are a limited slip designee. all work the same way and pretty much perform the same way. you have experience with a detroit locker so you know thats the next step up with its inherent drawbacks. so youre saying its that easy tbone in his response says that same thing. i agree it really is just that easy. as a side note. the dodge 9 1/4 rear is pretty famous for eating carrier bearings at about 60-80k miles. if you plan on driving the truck that long have a better aftermarket bearing installed at the same time. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : tbone

on sat 21 may 2005 150444 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote --ive read about lifting the bed but i dropped the tank. which ever way you --do it you might want to pick up the large o ring at the dealer along with --the module. also some fuel line to replace the line from the tank to the --hard line at the frame. it always seems to leak a week after you have --finished the job. -- --roy tnx roy ive already planned on replacing any lines that connect to the hard lines. when you say the module are you talking about the whole assembly maybe ive been reading too many x-posts about the subject and confused myself.... isnt there two parts to the assembly and the only part that would need a complete replacement is the float and rheostat module i understand it connects to the main assembly with three machine style screws into plastic. from the pic in the haynes repair manual the units look identical with the exception of the fuel pump for the gassers. the sending units appear to be replaceable in both cases.... am i correct dropping the tank according to haynes i have to remove the inner wheel on this dually.... it seems more work than lifting the bed.... ill be on my back again today before the temps are over 95 and recheck everything. ive removed the gooseneck hitch that came with the truck.... ill be fitting a 5th wheel hitch on the rails that the gooseneck was bolted to. im also flirting with the idea of cutting an inspection plate in the bed to access the fuel sensor module. then when everything is fitting... ill have the bed sprayed with a liner. have you or anyone else played with the idea of cutting out a section of the bed over the tank just large enough to yank that module out in the event it happens again ill tell ya im giving it some deep thought right now. again tnx.... gerry of san bernardino ca. .

From : floyd l davidson

you do know what sweet crude is dont you it does not have to be sweet crude to make gasoline and sweet crude can be used for other things besides gas. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote yes it is a stop-gap measure but not for cars. oil is used for far more than just gasoline. alaskan oil is not sweet crude. iow it is kinda worthless. only sweet crude thats used for gasoline is worth anything .

From : miles

thanks guys i decided to go with sirius. works flawless i live back in the woods and even going down roads with almost 100% tree cover over head it finds the signal. the nearest repeater is more than 75 miles away in indianapolis so all i get out here is just from the satellites. for now im using the new kenwood here2everywhere. the blue screen looks cool also and the built in fm transmitter is great it works well over 100ft. .

From : tbone

hawkeye65 wrote anybody know where i can get an oil filter relocation kit for a 2003 4.7l magnum qaud-cab 4x4 dodge 1500 thanks in advance hawkeye65 the 4.7l uses the same short filter as the 5.2 and 5.9. fortunately it has the same base as a small block ford. so a block adapter for a ford will fit the dodge. most parts you see - like perma-cool and transdapt - are cast alum. they are pretty well know for cracking and leaking. the hoses that come with these kits are also pretty crappy and wont last more than a year without leaking. guess how i know this what you want is a billet alum block adapter and filter boss. use russell -10 or -12 push on line and fittings 2 straight and 2 90* swivel. use a purolater pro-1 or mobile 1 filter for a small block ford. go to www.fortesparts.com mike forte has all the parts you need provides excellent service and very competitive prices. -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project ..bob thanks for providing some actual feedback about some of the products! hawkeye65 .

From : trey

things are going still in az trying to buy a house not in the army working at home depot f/t going to school f/t for my aas in network technologies. wtf nathanyou only say hi to certain ppl lol not at all....how goes it larry -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .

From : rick scott

you been over the beartooth and the chief joseph yet many times! http//utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asptopicid=1456 -- nathan w. collier http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .

From : clay

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From : tbone

ive heard yes...as well as no. i just changed out the old factory fluid with full synthetic mobil 1 rear diff. fluid 17000 miles ; is mobil 1 syn. diff fluid acceptable to dodge specs on the rear diff thanks dave .

From : tbone

i typically subscribe to the 3000 mile or 3 month schedule of changing the oil on my durango. however since my last oil change on feb. 2nd of this year ive only driven 2000 miles. most of those miles have come in the form of small trips. should i be looking to get another change soon or can i wait some more thanks. j .

From : tbone

i have a 1989 dodge ramcharger 4wd 5.9l . . . near the rear of the vehicle i often detect a faint odor of fuel but no matter how hard i look ill be damned if i can find a leak! has anyone on the list had a similar problem found a cure l8r jdr .

From : tbone

on wed 18 may 2005 181032 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote yup.. im almost aged to perfection and will probably still be pulling the trailer with our 99 ram when your next chevy needs rebuilding.. age man you know the item that is affecting you and many others in the group. ;^ it has almost 151k on it now and when i play with the motor the way i want it is all getting taken care of. on tue 17 may 2005 072101 -0700 azwiley1 azwiley1@cox.net wrote thats what i meant yes. how much would be involved to swap them thinking about it so i have the bigger trans behind the motor when i rebuild it. but why would such a great cheby need rebuilding larry *eg* nope if you mean 4l60e and 4l80e that is................... hey there g. have a question for you with a 4r80e fit directly into my 99 nbs silverado which currently has the 4r60e mac please remove splinters before emailing mac please remove splinters before emailing .

From : tbone

why dont you stop cross-posting this shit! how do you know i wasnt posting to you lol why even bother replying you think he checks the replys everyone should just block his address and all taken care of for christs sake take this garbage somewhere else. odysseus wrote midnight shark wrote top-posting fixed on sat 14 may 2005 132254 -0400 pizza girl expelled the following jesus was a disciple of the devil sent to sway the people away from god. excellent! i love it lol. - ive just gotta put that slant to some fundys i know! neither exist so the point is moot. intresting thesis there. whilst i personally agree that this devil figure is a figment of ancient xian imagination; jesus or at least someone similar to todays description seemingly did exist though; it can be proved historically from non-biblical sources. whether you believe he/she was a god/witch/psychic/demon/mystic/prophetess.......whatever is up to your personal interpretation. ...........as for existing now. likewise. moot is a cool word.. i love going to moots; especially when druids bring loads of mead lol. hick! /hick! but widely misused. the mead ....oh the word lol. speaking of mead; where did i leave that half bottle aargh its vanished! - i have a drink problem. ive lost my bottle. -- my part-time website is at http//5110.sytes.net the full-time one is at http//www.geocities.com/spmf38 but theres no techsection there. midnight shark wrote ead... i mead once... thats short for peed myself right in the case of daveinillinois/rving is alot offun/daveinlakevilla/areyouchangedbygod/itisdave and whatever other many trolling aliases he goes under aka pissy pants brown http//n.1asphost.com/bornagain/ probably yes. in this case however i refer to a flavoured sweet wine brewed usually in the uk from honey and enjoyed most by uk pagans. ill be very careful about drinking mead in the future though after hearing your interpretation. lol -- my part-time website is at http//5110.sytes.net the full-time one is at http//www.geocities.com/spmf38 but theres no techsection there. .

From : miles

tbone wrote it would be if it was a steady thing and the price fell directly from $58 to $48 but as you know that is not what happened and it has been floating around $50 for months now. even now it is up to $49.08 right around $50 again. for the past month it has been slowly coming down. just like gas prices. it is now closer to $47 not right around $50. it depends on the time of day that you look at it. when gas prices were higher last month oil was $58 not right around $50. gas prices will always drop at a rate much slower than oil price reductions. this is true and yet magically the price of gas jumps up at the instant the price of oil increases at least it did while the price of oil was more stable. looks a bit like artificial price control to me -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

craig@metronet.com wrote if that is the case then isnt drilling for more oil in alaska a stop-gap it definately does not lead to newer better energy sources. yes it is a stop-gap measure but not for cars. oil is used for far more than just gasoline. alaskan oil is not sweet crude. iow it is kinda worthless. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : Annonymous

when i first strat the engine in the morning the oil presure remains constant in the presure indicator but when the engine reaches the normal temperature the presure starts to fluctuate. when i put some gas the presure gets higher and when i stop the presure goes down. is that correct is there a oil pump to maintain the presure up when the engine is cold mine is a 99 3.9l! clt. what you are seeing is just wear on the engine. when the oil is cold it is thicker and cannot flow as quickly through small gaps so pressure is constant. as it warms up it thins down and can more easily flow through the wider gaps in a slightly worn engine and at idle there is not enough volume to maintain steady pressure. when you step on the gas the oil pump increases volume output and the pressure goes up. if the lower pressure bothers you you can use a heavier weight oil. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : Annonymous

craig@metronet.com wrote if that is the case then isnt drilling for more oil in alaska a stop-gap it definately does not lead to newer better energy sources. id take a stop-gap of 100-200 years whats the problem with that i disagree that hybrid is a stop-gap technology. a great deal has been learned ... mostly by the consumer. for once ... we have a choice and most people are pretty excited about it. there are a few that think its worthless and probably agree with you that it is stop-gap. from what ive read the hybrids dont get anywhere near the advertised mileage in real life. add the expense & danger of all those batteries & wiring. want to be stuck in one when they use the jaws of life on it however it is a *start* to something better which is more than punching holes in the ground in alaska. what else is it good for what did a caribou ever do for you craig c. .

From : tbone

unfortunately no the problem does not go away. i also see the problem driving along at a steady speed. when driving its not a drastic increase and decrease but never-the-less the rpms are not stable like they used to be. this morning it ran fine but the temperature was in the mid-30s... is there an ambient temperature sensor on the vehicle thanks .

From : miles

tbone wrote really perhaps you would care to point out an instance where i did this without it being a responce to being called names first. what name calling saying your views are liberal is name calling youve tossed out one name after another most recently idiot. .

From : miles

tbone wrote but they help to serve a need that we have today. while it is important to work for the future what is needed for today is even more important. its a bang for the buck issue. the money invested into hybrid development wont lead to newer better energy sources. its only a stop-gap technology at best. .

From : bruce porter

id take a stop-gap of 100-200 years whats the problem with that what source fed you that load of crap 100-200 years of oil under alaska most that i have read ranges from 6 months to 5 years ... and that timeframe is based on pumping/using only 5% of our current demand. from what ive read the hybrids dont get anywhere near the advertised mileage in real life. so they are still a step in the right direction. the solution is getting to the point that we are using resources that are renewable. add the expense & danger of all those batteries & wiring. want to be stuck in one when they use the jaws of life on it this is what is called a scare tactic. i could use the same reasoning on you. get in a wreck with highly flammable gasoline in the tank hell it might blow up! hybrids are just as safe as regular 100% combustion vehicles. if you disagree then the burden of proof lies on you. gimme some examples of these horrible accidents that have happened in a hybrid and how much better it would have been in a regular 100% combustion vehicle. however it is a *start* to something better which is more than punching holes in the ground in alaska. what else is it good for some things should not be messed with. i happen to feel that we should try to conserve what little of the untouched earth is left. i have been to many parts of alaska. the most beautiful being denali ... which will be impacted if northern alaska is drilled. why drill it damage the ecosystem risk extinction of some wildlife when all we have to do is pursue a renewable source of energy progress is being made despite our fearless leaders attempts to keep us hooked on oil. what did a caribou ever do for you exist. what did a caribou ever do *to* you craig c. .

From : tbone

if that is the case then isnt drilling for more oil in alaska a stop-gap it definately does not lead to newer better energy sources. i disagree that hybrid is a stop-gap technology. a great deal has been learned ... mostly by the consumer. for once ... we have a choice and most people are pretty excited about it. there are a few that think its worthless and probably agree with you that it is stop-gap. however it is a *start* to something better which is more than punching holes in the ground in alaska. craig c. .

From : miles

tbone wrote they have not fallen all that much to cause the sudden drop in gas prices from $58 a barrel to $48 a barrel is considerable. it would be if it was a steady thing and the price fell directly from $58 to $48 but as you know that is not what happened and it has been floating around $50 for months now. even now it is up to $49.08 right around $50 again. and if it is just the price of iol then why havent diesel prices fallen even faster. diesel prices have always been rising faster than gas. been that way for decades. this is new to you what does this have to do with anything and where is your proof diesel has been more expensive than regular for years where i lived and continues to get so as demand increases but the pattern was always the same price increases in the colder months and reductions in the spring and summer. i would also suspect that the price was also influenced by the rize in oil prices since it went up at the same time as gasoline and by around the same amount. but now according to you the price of oil warrents and are the only reason for the sudden drop in the price of gas and if this were true then why didnt diesel also drop at the same time and by the same amount sorry miles but your arguments are full of holes. if every station in an area gets the fuel for the same price they tend to sell it for the same price unless they think that they can make more money selling by volume and only the bigger stations do well at that. what complete bull. here in phoenix all gas comes from the exact same place. there is only one pipeline feeding all of phoenix and only one central distribution center. costs are the same for everyone. yet prices vary across phoenix by over $.30 a gallon. the price variance is nothing more than a distortion of facts. you are trying to hide behind the retail prices that different dealers in different areas charge but that really means nothing. what matters is when the prices change do they increase or decrease by the same amount at the different stations. i would say that they are damn close if not exactly the same which shows that the oil companies can control the price just like any manufacturer / supplier. now at the company stations they set the retail price as well but price control can also be done by varing the cost to the dealers. two small stations across the street from each other can be $.10 a gallon different. why not sure exactly but my guess is it has alot to do with traffic flow. perhaps or maybe one of them has to set their price according to what the supplier says. exxon stations have to set the prices to what the company says and a few of them have closed here because of that. now take a look at stations in remote parts of arizona. they have to get their gas from phoenix and truck it. yet their prices are often $.20 a gallon less than the average price in phoenix. differences in market demands cause the price variances. of course but when the prices rise those rural stations raise there prices by the same amount as those city stations. if pressure is put on the oil companies to lower prices all they can really do is lower the cost to the dealers and that is what they are doing. the dealers may be cashing in on the laziness and impatiens of the typical american and continue to charge high prices but it is only a matter of time... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

several weeks later with the truck in and out of the dealership shop for sometimes a couple of days and other times for more than a week they moved the shudder up to 55 mph. and then the transmissions started doing other things. the dealership gave up and told me not to come back. where are you located my guess is brent was your technician.... g -- regards slick willy 73 cb 450 95 xj 600 03 flstf - parted ways in late july 04 flhrci - entering geezerdom at a mere 32 ... remove the bendover to reply .

From : tbone

tbone wrote now magically even though the price of oil is still around $50 a barrel the price of gas is falling below that magical $2.00 a gallon and doing it during a time when prices normally rise to control consumption. you keep tossing your $50 number out. when gas prices were at their highest oil was running close to $58. now its about $48. gas prices normally rise because of increased demand for the summer which isnt taking place so far as well as increased oil prices worldwide which isnt the case right now. a year ago gm and ford were not in serious trouble either. there is a limit where people say enough is enough and until gas reached over $2.00 a gallon with threats of it getting over $3.00 that limit was not reached but now it has been and the shift in sales of automobiles proves it. sure as gas goes up people drive less or buy more economic vehicles. been that way for decades. this discussion is about whether gas companies are controlling that price. youve made a guess saying its true but thats all it is a guess. not when the need is now and what is it with you that they cant do both. japan is not doing both. they sunk everything they had into hybrid technology and little else. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote now if you happen to be the manufacturer of the older fuel and want to eliminate the motivation to move to something else how would you accomplish that. gee i dont know how about lower the price to the consumer that has the greatest effect!!!! so this is your proof an idea in your head that some conspiracy must exist because it just makes sense that it does always the conspiracy in the liberal mind. never fails. where do you get this conspiracy thing from is this a right wing thing sorta like your liberal accusations the funny thing is that you have no proof to prove what i say is wrong rofl!! the old backasswards argument. classic and still funny! i have to prove that there is no conspiracy otherwise your paranoid mind must be right i never claimed there to ba any conspiracy. i simply said that there was pressure being put on the oil companies to get the price of gas down. you are the one always asking for proof and yet never delivering any of your own. if you think that i amn wrong prove it for a change. and just about everything that im saying is based on observations that you have made which would make you as warped as you accuse me of being. no tbone. it is only you that draws the conclusion that a conspiracy must exist. nope. the only one saying conspiracy is you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote but they help to serve a need that we have today. while it is important to work for the future what is needed for today is even more important. its a bang for the buck issue. the money invested into hybrid development wont lead to newer better energy sources. its only a stop-gap technology at best. i agree but when our ability to refine falls below demand a stop-gap solution is what is needed now. the point miles is that while hybrids may only appear to be a stop-gap solution they are hear now work well and can be improved upon in the future. actually miles they are the foundation for the fuel cell technology that you are so hopeful for in the future and are doing their part to decrease consumption now and pave the way for newer technologies tomorrow so your stop-gap only opinion is wrong. now before you accuse me of some liberal bs think about this... what is the difference between a current hybrid and a future fuel cell vehicle now what does gm and ford have to compete with this oh yea nothing. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tbone wrote and yet no different than what you do most of the time. hell i did provide facts that you just pretend dont exist like the continued high price of diesel fuel and the lowering of gas prices that are exactly the opposit of what should be happening this time of year. these are facts whether you want to see them that way or not now where is your proof that this isnt happening. gas prices go up generally in the late spring and early summer. this year has been vastly different. instead of the normal lower oil prices in the spring we saw them skyrocket. now they have fallen. diesel prices have been going up faster than gas prices for many years. this is new to you they have not fallen all that much to cause the sudden drop in gas prices and if it is just the price of iol then why havent diesel prices fallen even faster. the fact is that the pressure is to lower the price of gas more than diesel and that can plainly be seen at the pump. now the only thing that is left is why gas over diesel i know the answer and so do you. funny how home depot and loews both seem to charge exactly the same price for the things that they both carry. i guess that according to you they must be doing something illegal. name brand products are commonly sold at a maximum price set by the product manufacturer. a store cant sell it for less. this is a growing trend on name brand products and unfortunatly is legal. however gas refiners and distributors cant set the price a station charges in the same manner. actually home depot and loews are both discount retailers and rarely use msrp. the fact is that they know what the other one is selling key items for and matches that price. as for setting the price at the station company owned stations can and do set the price and the independents cant sell for less than they are getting it for and stay in business for long. if every station in an area gets the fuel for the same price they tend to sell it for the same price unless they think that they can make more money selling by volume and only the bigger stations do well at that. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote yes exactly the opposite of what should be happening this time of year. now why do you think that is and lets see you back it up with some facts for a change. oil prices were unseasonably high through the winter and spring and have now dropped which is opposite of a normal year. you really need a url for you to know that which is why the price of fuel is now magically dropping at a time of year when it traditionally goes up. so far my theory is holding up just fine. except you forgot to factor in the abnormal high oil prices that have now dropped worldwide. so much for your american gas guzzler theory. which they cannot do when people dont want them due to high cost of operation due to poor mileage. my theory is still holding up quite well and is being totally supported by you. no its not. gas prices skyrocketed over the past year. they dropped a small amount recently and you declare it to be a conspiracy good grief. this is true but public demands are affected by costs and reducing costs effects demand. once again my theory is fully supported by you. thanks miles. your theory is blown to bits by the simple fact that gas prices are very high right now. what were they only 1 year ago oh ya big conspiracy to lower gas prices. good grief. bullshit. they need to anticipate demands in the future and make investments accordingly which they simply did not do. as for their spending the only thing that counts is where the rubber meets the road and so far they dont have shit. so rush to market a technology that is expensive and returns little gains and is not a sustainable solution makes more sense to spend money looking for longer term more viable solutions. but the key word is hopefully. do you really think that the japanese are only building hybrids and are doing nothing more. they are not spending anywheres near the $s the american companies are on other forms of energy. they put all their marbles into hybrids. .

From : tbone

tbone wrote now if you happen to be the manufacturer of the older fuel and want to eliminate the motivation to move to something else how would you accomplish that. gee i dont know how about lower the price to the consumer that has the greatest effect!!!! so this is your proof an idea in your head that some conspiracy must exist because it just makes sense that it does always the conspiracy in the liberal mind. never fails. the funny thing is that you have no proof to prove what i say is wrong rofl!! the old backasswards argument. classic and still funny! i have to prove that there is no conspiracy otherwise your paranoid mind must be right and just about everything that im saying is based on observations that you have made which would make you as warped as you accuse me of being. no tbone. it is only you that draws the conclusion that a conspiracy must exist. .

From : tbone

craig@metronet.com wrote that touches on the last thing that miles and i discussed. not trying to resurrect it but the subject matter had to do with the idea that perhaps we would have more alternatives than we do if the issue was pushed by the government rather than drilling for more oil ... government cant push much. it takes billions of $s to develop these alternatives. the only place to get that is from the consumer. it has to be consumer driven. the government can do some motivation towards the consumer but in the end its the consumer who drives industry to produce. i agree with you 100% and what is the best way to eliminate that drive in the industry how about reduce the price where it counts to make it economically infeasible for the consumer to push for change. despite the current stand by our government i believe that we are starting to see a lot of progress actually. hybrids are looking better everyday. hybrids are a short term solution. they dont provide the gains needed for long term. i view them as part of the evolution to better solutions but certainly not the end or anywheres close to it. but they help to serve a need that we have today. while it is important to work for the future what is needed for today is even more important. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote yes exactly the opposite of what should be happening this time of year. now why do you think that is and lets see you back it up with some facts for a change. oil prices were unseasonably high through the winter and spring and have now dropped which is opposite of a normal year. you really need a url for you to know that they have not dropped that much and have been hovering around $50 since feb. now if the price has dropped due to the lower price of crude as you suggest why hasnt diesel dropped with it which is why the price of fuel is now magically dropping at a time of year when it traditionally goes up. so far my theory is holding up just fine. except you forgot to factor in the abnormal high oil prices that have now dropped worldwide. so much for your american gas guzzler theory. oil prices will always rise and fall worldwide so an increase or decrease in consumption will effect the worldwide price. with this in mind a reduction in the rate of consumption in the us alone will have an effect on the worldwide price so my gas guzzler theory as you call it is just fine. which they cannot do when people dont want them due to high cost of operation due to poor mileage. my theory is still holding up quite well and is being totally supported by you. no its not. gas prices skyrocketed over the past year. they dropped a small amount recently and you declare it to be a conspiracy good grief. lol who said anything about a conspiracy besides you the fact is that when the price of gas exceeded $2.00 a gallon nationally the demand for suvs and large vehicles dropped 30% and that is significant especially when ford and gm were downgraded to junk bond status because of it. now magically even though the price of oil is still around $50 a barrel the price of gas is falling below that magical $2.00 a gallon and doing it during a time when prices normally rise to control consumption. in the past 3 weeks the price of gas has fallen about 20 cents a gallon in my area where it is now $1.95 from $2.15 while diesel has remained around $2.25 and this level of price drop is not supported by the reduction in oil prices especially when you add in the lack of refining ability verses demand that we are currently dealing with. this is true but public demands are affected by costs and reducing costs effects demand. once again my theory is fully supported by you. thanks miles. your theory is blown to bits by the simple fact that gas prices are very high right now. what were they only 1 year ago oh ya big conspiracy to lower gas prices. good grief. a year ago gm and ford were not in serious trouble either. there is a limit where people say enough is enough and until gas reached over $2.00 agallon with threats of it getting over $3.00 that limit was not reached but now it has been and the shift in sales of automobiles proves it. bullshit. they need to anticipate demands in the future and make investments accordingly which they simply did not do. as for their spending the only thing that counts is where the rubber meets the road and so far they dont have shit. so rush to market a technology that is expensive and returns little gains and is not a sustainable solution makes more sense to spend money looking for longer term more viable solutions. not when the need is now and what is it with you that they cant do both. the trick is to make what is available today work for you while you develop the technology for tomorrow and at this the great mistake failed. lucent technology attempted the idiotic method that you seem to think is the way to go and look at the shape that they are in now because of it. but the key word is hopefully. do you really think that the japanese are only building hybrids and are doing nothing more. they are not spending anywheres near the $s the american companies are on other forms of energy. they put all their marbles into hybrids. and your proof of this is...... and who is now making the mega-bucks that they can use to develop that new technology -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote i will take the time to supply the same level of facts that you give me when i ask you for them. oh thats right you ignore or delete the requests and never supply any. i guess that will make it real easy for me to match. the difference here tbone is that you state an opinion and claim it as fact. futures price lol!!! that is no more stable than the actual price anymore. the gas companies are always controlling the pump price to some level and it has nothing to do with price fixing. are you really this stupid or do you just hope that the rest of us are all of the gas companies would have to all get together in order to control the price in the manner your paranoid brain believes. .

From : tbone

miles i believe you and i have had discussions in the past that were fairly non-productive. mainly because youre quick to start labeling. i.e. liberal insert adjective here. i hope that wont be the case here. btw in acse you forgot ... im not a democrat/liberal although i believe you have accused me of such. you seem to forget how fast his favorite nemesis whips out the labeling machine. really perhaps you would care to point out an instance where i did this without it being a responce to being called names first. on to the issue at hand price per barrel is down from a few weeks ago ... yes demand for diesel is down due to warming weather ... yes why then is the price at the pump remaining constant its awfully coincidental that dc gm and ford do not have a decent lineup of diesel/alternative energy vehicles to market ... generous motors had the ev1 a very heavily subsidized miserable failure. all three have had dual fuel vehicles bought almost entirely by government. after a brief honey moon with environmentalists diesel has been denigrated as filthy. cng isnt viable on a practical scale electric isnt viable for anything but commuting what alternative do you expect them to provide us lol are you serious. those initial multi-fuled vehicles were a joke. while they could burn propane or gas they were still all inefficient pos so what was the point of buying one. if we went by your back-asswards logic we would still be riding horses for transportation and using candles for light since neither cars or electric lights existed until they were invented and perfected. i am also interested in knowing why oil companies rake in record profits during times when ppb not demand is increasing. demand is increasing. we dont just import crude we also import finished gasoline because we dont have sufficient refining capacity. but you forget the supply side of the equation. remember china 1.3 billion people in a country moving toward a capitalist system. theyll sell as many new cars there in 2007 as we sold in 1965 in the next several years theyre projected to sell more new cars than we do. and then theres india moving in the same direction with more than a billion people. thats a lot of additional demand and some here think we can conserve our way out of this. i believe ive demonstrated the fallacy of that particular thesis. where did you demonstrate anything that makes no sense ... unless they artificially inflating the price in their favor for insert your favorite conspiracy theory here. were all getting bent over by the oil companies without the godamn common courtesy of a reach-around. base language while colorful isnt productive and serves little purpose. look at fuel prices on an inflation adjusted basis and its still cheap even cheaper than in the eighties when we thought it was so high. when fuel price inflation beats my property tax increases ill start to worry. lol and we were driving much more fuel efficient vehicles at the time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

craig@metronet.com wrote price per barrel is down from a few weeks ago ... yes demand for diesel is down due to warming weather ... yes why then is the price at the pump remaining constant dont know about diesel but gas prices on average have dropped about 10 cents the past week according to national surveys. ill find you a source if needed. yes exactly the opposite of what should be happening this time of year. now why do you think that is and lets see you back it up with some facts for a change. its awfully coincidental that dc gm and ford do not have a decent lineup of diesel/alternative energy vehicles to market ... wouldnt you say although i doubt tbone can prove his theory there is no doubt that oil companies and vehicle manufacturers are in bed together. its self preservation. his theory is not too terribly far fetched imo. thats just a paranoid based theory without facts. car manufactures dont gain by high oil prices. which is why the price of fuel is now magically dropping at a time of year when it traditionally goes up. so far my theory is holding up just fine. they gain by selling more cars. which they cannot do when people dont want them due to high cost of operation due to poor mileage. my theory is still holding up quite well and is being totally supported by you. they dont control what the public demands. this is true but public demands are affected by costs and reducing costs effects demand. once again my theory is fully supported by you. thanks miles. i agree theyre slow at responding to demand but their spending for alternative energy is well above that of the japanese. bullshit. they need to anticipate demands in the future and make investments accordingly which they simply did not do. as for their spending the only thing that counts is where the rubber meets the road and so far they dont have shit. while the japanese are building hybrids the americans are pouring money into technologies that hopefully will be longer term than the short term stop-gap hybrid approach. but the key word is hopefully. do you really think that the japanese are only building hybrids and are doing nothing more. if so i have some beach front property that you may be interested in. the fact is that we have a need for higher mileage vehicles today not 20 years from now and this is where gm and ford failed miserably. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote back to the nuthin but name callin tactic again huh miles if the shoe fits. and with you it currently does. exactly what proof do you expect to find do you really think that the oil companies publish this stuff lol!!! if companies are artificially controlling prices through some illegal mechanism then yes there should be proof available. lol really i suspect that if they are then yes there is some proof somewhere but that doesnt mean that i or anyone else will be able to find it. there are plenty of unsolved crimes and mysteries in the world because the proof either doesnt exist or is hidden too well to be found. then again perhaps they are simply shifting resources for their best gain which is not illegal at all. instead you just give me your personal opinions and call it proof. actually miles you are the one that is providing the opinions that make what i say true. you are the one that says over and over that it is the consumer will be the force that will drive new technology and i agree with you on this. the part that you try to hide from is the motivation the consumer needs to do it. oh wait you have given the motivation for the consumer economic feasibility. so lets see according to you the consumer will drive the move to newer and more econonomic forms of energy as long as it is economically feasable and the one thing that will make it that way is a high enough price for the current fuel that we use. now if you happen to be the manufacturer of the older fuel and want to eliminate the motivation to move to something else how would you accomplish that. gee i dont know how about lower the price to the consumer that has the greatest effect!!!! in actuality your beliefs are just based on what suits your own warped viewpoints. at least you admit you have no proof. the funny thing is that you have no proof to prove what i say is wrong and just about everything that im saying is based on observations that you have made which would make you as warped as you accuse me of being. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

tbone wrote lol have you not been watching the msnbc or even the current price of oil relative to the current price of gasoline or diesel fuel its on par with each other. look at the price of oil and gas in may 2004 compared with now. youll see they both went up about the same %. now i asked you for facts. not your liberal warped observations that caused you to make a baseless claim against. i will take the time to supply the same level of facts that you give me when i ask you for them. oh thats right you ignore or delete the requests and never supply any. i guess that will make it real easy for me to match. it is fairly obvious what is happening despite your typical conservative hide your head in the sand method of looking at things. just look at the facts oil prices not moving all that much and never in a stable manor in either direction and yet gas prices have dropped when they should be seasonally going up oil prices have dropped. it is now $47-$49 down from well over $50 a few weeks ago. note its the futures price that has the most effect. now show me your facts to backup your claim that gas companies are artificially controlling pump prices. are they price fixing futures price lol!!! that is no more stable than the actual price anymore. the gas companies are always controlling the pump price to some level and it has nothing to do with price fixing. are you really this stupid or do you just hope that the rest of us are there is nothing liberal about it unless you are once again confusing liberalism with obvious facts. companies control prices whenever they can to suite their needs. with price fixing which is illegal. now how about them facts you must have to show price fixing or some other form of artificially controlling pump prices. it is not a matter of artificially controlling anything or price fixing. you really do just see what you want to see. they are reducing the price of gas by shifting resources from diesel fuel production which can be seen by the continued high price well into the lower price season. the thing is that high diesel fuel prices have little long term effect on demand or sales of vehicles that use it which makes it the perfect resource to steal from to lower gas prices. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

tbone wrote back to the nuthin but name callin tactic again huh miles if the shoe fits. exactly what proof do you expect to find do you really think that the oil companies publish this stuff lol!!! if companies are artificially controlling prices through some illegal mechanism then yes there should be proof available. instead you just give me your personal opinions and call it proof. in actuality your beliefs are just based on what suits your own warped viewpoints. at least you admit you have no proof. .

From : miles

tbone wrote lol and failure to see the obvious seems to run rampant with you. obvious that you have no facts to backup your claim. all you have is your warped liberal opinion. believe what you want but until you show proof then its just your warped liberal mind at work. back to the nuthin but name callin tactic again huh miles exactly what proof do you expect to find do you really think that the oil companies publish this stuff lol!!! as for providing facts you should be the last one to talk. i have yet to see you post a fact to back up anything that you claim and when asked simply delete that part of the post on your response. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

craig@metronet.com wrote that touches on the last thing that miles and i discussed. not trying to resurrect it but the subject matter had to do with the idea that perhaps we would have more alternatives than we do if the issue was pushed by the government rather than drilling for more oil ... government cant push much. it takes billions of $s to develop these alternatives. the only place to get that is from the consumer. it has to be consumer driven. the government can do some motivation towards the consumer but in the end its the consumer who drives industry to produce. despite the current stand by our government i believe that we are starting to see a lot of progress actually. hybrids are looking better everyday. hybrids are a short term solution. they dont provide the gains needed for long term. i view them as part of the evolution to better solutions but certainly not the end or anywheres close to it. .

From : miles

craig@metronet.com wrote price per barrel is down from a few weeks ago ... yes demand for diesel is down due to warming weather ... yes why then is the price at the pump remaining constant dont know about diesel but gas prices on average have dropped about 10 cents the past week according to national surveys. ill find you a source if needed. its awfully coincidental that dc gm and ford do not have a decent lineup of diesel/alternative energy vehicles to market ... wouldnt you say although i doubt tbone can prove his theory there is no doubt that oil companies and vehicle manufacturers are in bed together. its self preservation. his theory is not too terribly far fetched imo. thats just a paranoid based theory without facts. car manufactures dont gain by high oil prices. they gain by selling more cars. they dont control what the public demands. i agree theyre slow at responding to demand but their spending for alternative energy is well above that of the japanese. while the japanese are building hybrids the americans are pouring money into technologies that hopefully will be longer term than the short term stop-gap hybrid approach. .

From : Annonymous

thanks bud ill keep that in mind when ever i get to start doing it all. ^ i had a young fellow in here two years ago that was doing a complete engine and transmission from a 98 with an 80e into a 94 which had a 60e type of swap he swapped wiring harnesses and all but later had to go back to the 60e when the 80 crapped there was some kind of problem with re-wiring the transmission connector he cut the 60e end off his old harness and spliced it wire-for-wire but came to me when it wouldnt shift right and i figured out the right wires to swap in other words the comp will drive both units but the wiring is different if you could find a wiring harness and comp from a truck that is identical in all other respects....cruise 4wd etc it would be a snap thats what i meant yes. how much would be involved to swap them thinking about it so i have the bigger trans behind the motor when i rebuild it. nope if you mean 4l60e and 4l80e that is................... hey there g. have a question for you with a 4r80e fit directly into my 99 nbs silverado which currently has the 4r60e .

From : john smith

john smith wrote you seem to forget how fast his favorite nemesis whips out the labeling machine. ; nope i didnt forget ... just chose not to piss two people off at the same time. generous motors had the ev1 a very heavily subsidized miserable failure. all three have had dual fuel vehicles bought almost entirely by government. after a brief honey moon with environmentalists diesel has been denigrated as filthy. cng isnt viable on a practical scale electric isnt viable for anything but commuting what alternative do you expect them to provide us that touches on the last thing that miles and i discussed. not trying to resurrect it but the subject matter had to do with the idea that perhaps we would have more alternatives than we do if the issue was pushed by the government rather than drilling for more oil ... i drive a diesel ... my friends consider me an environmentalist although i pale in comparison to most with that title. i think its a great alternative nowadays. despite the current stand by our government i believe that we are starting to see a lot of progress actually. hybrids are looking better everyday. i am also interested in knowing why oil companies rake in record profits during times when ppb not demand is increasing. demand is increasing. i suspect the curve of demand is much flatter than the curve of pricing. how else do you explain record profits by exxonmobil the last 3 years are you telling me thats all demand if so i have some ocean front property you may be interested in. in the same direction with more than a billion people. thats a lot of additional demand and some here think we can conserve our way out of this. good point. i believe ive demonstrated the fallacy of that particular thesis. then i assume we both agree that oil is not the answer and neither is drilling for more does that make you a liberal ; base language while colorful isnt productive and serves little purpose. it was a quote from a movie actually. i thought it was rather funny. but then ... im a pretty cheery guy. look at fuel prices on an inflation adjusted basis and its still cheap even cheaper than in the eighties when we thought it was so high. when fuel price inflation beats my property tax increases ill start to worry. ack property taxes. dont get me started on that. single white male no children. talk about getting bent over. should it give me warm fuzzies to help pay for my neighbors 5 kids to attend school craig c. .

From : carolina watercraft works

odysseus wrote midnight shark wrote top-posting fixed on sat 14 may 2005 132254 -0400 pizza girl expelled the following jesus was a disciple of the devil sent to sway the people away from god. excellent! i love it lol. - ive just gotta put that slant to some fundys i know! neither exist so the point is moot. intresting thesis there. whilst i personally agree that this devil figure is a figment of ancient xian imagination; jesus or at least someone similar to todays description seemingly did exist though; it can be proved historically from non-biblical sources. whether you believe he/she was a god/witch/psychic/demon/mystic/prophetess.......whatever is up to your personal interpretation. ...........as for existing now. likewise. moot is a cool word.. i love going to moots; especially when druids bring loads of mead lol. hick! /hick! but widely misused. the mead ....oh the word lol. speaking of mead; where did i leave that half bottle aargh its vanished! - i have a drink problem. ive lost my bottle. -- my part-time website is at http//5110.sytes.net the full-time one is at http//www.geocities.com/spmf38 but theres no techsection there. midnight shark wrote ead... i mead once... thats short for peed myself right in the case of daveinillinois/rving is alot offun/daveinlakevilla/areyouchangedbygod/itisdave and whatever other many trolling aliases he goes under aka pissy pants brown http//n.1asphost.com/bornagain/ probably yes. in this case however i refer to a flavoured sweet wine brewed usually in the uk from honey and enjoyed most by uk pagans. ill be very careful about drinking mead in the future though after hearing your interpretation. lol -- my part-time website is at http//5110.sytes.net the full-time one is at http//www.geocities.com/spmf38 but theres no techsection there. .

From : Annonymous

miles i believe you and i have had discussions in the past that were fairly non-productive. mainly because youre quick to start labeling. i.e. liberal insert adjective here. i hope that wont be the case here. btw in acse you forgot ... im not a democrat/liberal although i believe you have accused me of such. you seem to forget how fast his favorite nemesis whips out the labeling machine. on to the issue at hand price per barrel is down from a few weeks ago ... yes demand for diesel is down due to warming weather ... yes why then is the price at the pump remaining constant its awfully coincidental that dc gm and ford do not have a decent lineup of diesel/alternative energy vehicles to market ... generous motors had the ev1 a very heavily subsidized miserable failure. all three have had dual fuel vehicles bought almost entirely by government. after a brief honey moon with environmentalists diesel has been denigrated as filthy. cng isnt viable on a practical scale electric isnt viable for anything but commuting what alternative do you expect them to provide us i am also interested in knowing why oil companies rake in record profits during times when ppb not demand is increasing. demand is increasing. we dont just import crude we also import finished gasoline because we dont have sufficient refining capacity. but you forget the supply side of the equation. remember china 1.3 billion people in a country moving toward a capitalist system. theyll sell as many new cars there in 2007 as we sold in 1965 in the next several years theyre projected to sell more new cars than we do. and then theres india moving in the same direction with more than a billion people. thats a lot of additional demand and some here think we can conserve our way out of this. i believe ive demonstrated the fallacy of that particular thesis. that makes no sense ... unless they artificially inflating the price in their favor for insert your favorite conspiracy theory here. were all getting bent over by the oil companies without the godamn common courtesy of a reach-around. base language while colorful isnt productive and serves little purpose. look at fuel prices on an inflation adjusted basis and its still cheap even cheaper than in the eighties when we thought it was so high. when fuel price inflation beats my property tax increases ill start to worry. .

From : tbone

thanks for the info tom. so are you saying the bl/or is not the charging lead thats right. seeing as it is a heavier gauge wire i thought that was what it would be for. nope. depending on what kind of trailer you have you could have upwards of 20 marker lights on it. that takes a lot of juice. the charging lead is a relatively low-amperage draw trickle-charge. installed at all. for example i traced the light blue elec. brake wire and it ended in the drivers side front wheel well. that doesnt surprise me. did it end there or go into a connector that then ran into the firewall the 4-pin brake controller connector is located right around there on the inside of the cab. .

From : tbone

but gm and toyota are joining forces to share the expense of hydrogen powered vehicles. hopefully their research will produce a viable option. i know for a fat that i would buy a hydrogen powered vehicle in a heartbeat if the price was right. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature...... miles i believe you and i have had discussions in the past that were fairly non-productive. mainly because youre quick to start labeling. i.e. liberal insert adjective here. i hope that wont be the case here. btw in acse you forgot ... im not a democrat/liberal although i believe you have accused me of such. on to the issue at hand price per barrel is down from a few weeks ago ... yes demand for diesel is down due to warming weather ... yes why then is the price at the pump remaining constant its awfully coincidental that dc gm and ford do not have a decent lineup of diesel/alternative energy vehicles to market ... wouldnt you say although i doubt tbone can prove his theory there is no doubt that oil companies and vehicle manufacturers are in bed together. its self preservation. his theory is not too terribly far fetched imo. i am also interested in knowing why oil companies rake in record profits during times when ppb not demand is increasing. that makes no sense ... unless they artificially inflating the price in their favor for insert your favorite conspiracy theory here. were all getting bent over by the oil companies without the godamn common courtesy of a reach-around. ; craig c. .

From : john smith

bob g. wrote my wife drives a 96 grand caravan...which now has 160000 or so miles on it...van still runs just fine and looks fine....however the plastic headlight enclosers are now foggy and yellow... not nice and clear... just looks bad.. i think i would have to buy a new complete headlight assembly to fix them....not really sure ...but a quick search last evening showed these things cost more then 200 bucks. each... way too much to spend on a 9 yr old vehicle with all those miles... any solutions tried using nexus plastic polish..which is used to clear scratches in aircraft windshields etc...with little luck... thanks bob griffiths . had the same problem with my 96 ram diesel. my parts dude talked me into some head light resurfacer/restorer stuff made by symtech corp. cost $50 cdn. they say - 3 easy steps and less than 5 minutes to do. i agree with the 3 easy steps but more like 10-15 minutes a light. worked great they are now as clear as the side lights. they have a web site www.symtechcorp.net. the insides of the lights are good. good luck and no im not an agent or anything of the company just a retired diesel driver. ljb .

From : christopher thompson

i agree. they actually even make a comment on that in the first link. dodge doesnt think its going to effect the regular qc sales. personally i think it will a tad bit bit the qc will still be a big seller imo. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature...... its going to take a while for that one to grow on me. i liked the fact that the crew cab ram was smaller than the ford. the old style looks a bit more sporty and is still practical for my use. the larger cab is probably a welcome addition for those that have to wrestle with a car seat or a bunch of rowdy snot-nosed kids. ; craig c. .

From : shane

same here in mid ga diesel around 2.25 - 2.33 and gas has taken a slight drop from 2.07 to 2.04 $2.33-$2.48 is the lowest price here in ut. havent seen diesel fuel drop at all. hi all i found this article today ... 5/10/2005. according to the article we should have started to see drops in diesel fuel pricing 2 weeks ago. its the same here in north dallas. i pay $2.28 and have been for 6-8 weeks. anyone seeing a change yet http//fleetowner.com//dieselpriceenergy041205/ craig c. .

From : lp1330

just got a 93 ram 150. what is the trick to get the rear of the bench seat to fold down. this one will not fold making access to the area behind the seat difficult. must be a latch somewhere. tia .

From : Annonymous

carolina watercraft works wrote what does everyone think of this new ram...besides its about time http//autoadvice.about.com/od/dodg1/ss/dodgerammegacab.htm http//www.pickuptruck.com/html/2006/dodge/ram/mega/page1.html they added a few inches to the rear of the cab and removed a few inches from the bed. im not impressed. its handy i suppose. but it doesnt get me excited. -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project another junk truck. great. what ever happened to having a usable truck box. 63 is a joke hell my lawn tractor wont even fit in there. want to buy 8 lumber and keep the bed closed up...bzzzz nope. carry a 4 wheeler nope. might as well sell it with a trailer attached so you can actually call it a truck. -- steve williams pacifism - the theory that if theyd fed jeffrey dahmer enough human flesh hed have become a vegan. ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .