Dakota starting woes!

From : gooch

Q: first degree requires intent and most drunk drivers dont get in their vehicles with the intent to kill someone however im in agreement with you that the punishment should be severe. lol tom there are thousands of ads everyday giving the dangers of operating a vehicle under the influence . . now just how many people over 12 do you think have never seen or heard about those dangers and there are those same adds talking about the dangers of smoking and they are also ignored. people only see what they want to see. the point tom is that if you ignore break/ think it applies only to other people the law you are a criminal. there are no laws concerning smoking and driving. i agree 100% but the punishment has to fit the crime. being an idiot and getting someone killed is not the same thing as going out with the intent to kill for whatever reason. as for the smoking i was referring to people only seeing what they want to see not that there was a law against it. since the knowledge is well brodcast ignorance is no excuse. if the dui / dwi knows hes going out to get drunk then he knows he could kill someone by driving in that condition. if you know its a crime and you know you could kill and decide to get wiped out anyway then as far as im concerned its a concious decision and you have decided the value of the life of another person or persons is of no importance. and that says you though about it and decided to do it. the sad thing is that it is never this black and white. actually it is. if you drive drunk you break the law. period. if you kill knowing youre doing it you break the law. if you refuse to pay your taxes you break the law. again im in full agreement but we are talking about the specifics of murder 1 not just breaking the law. the only reason for there being any gray areas is liberal defense lawyers but then they created the civil double jeopardy lawsuit didnt they now this makes you sound either ignorant or bitter budd. life itself is a gray area and if you just dole out punnisshment without understanding or compassion you might as well be saddam because that is exactly what he did. there are some that think that they can drive as well or better drunk others that accidentally have 1 too many and dont really feel drunk and neither of these types know that they could kill somebody because as far as they are concerned they can drive just fine and then it is not a conscious choice that they devaluated human life. tom i did not say accidentally i said knowing they would be getting drunk . . .big difference. what i wrote was a statement of a deliberate thought out act. are trying out the part of a liberal defense lawyer now keep your spins out. there is no spin here budd. how can you prove that the person knew that they would get drunk. alcohol affects different people differently just like any other drug and while some may know that they had too much at .081% blood alcohol another may not feel it at all and have no idea yet by your judgment they both go to jail for life or are executed for the crime. does this really make much sense to you they were wrong and stupid but were not going out with the intent to kill and therefor cannot be accused of murder 1. actually anyone that drinks to the point of 0.08 bac or more is impaired the military navy told my son that if he had more than 3 beers in a week he was to seek counseling. does that give you an idea of how serious it is tom do you drink my heavy drinking days are behind me now and i dont drive while drinking although in my younger days that was not always the case. a .08 bac does not effect everyone in a fully detrimental way as at one time it was .1 before they realized that there was a significant portion of the population that was still incapacitated there and they needed to lower it. either way by trying to make this a murder 1 thing you are discounting the seriousness of the crime and that is a really bad thing. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .